Regarding the "Chromie will find a way to save Nozdormu" theory, I have another suggestion - Chromie will, through her "searching ALL possibilities" inevitably CAUSE the transformation from Noz -> Murozond. Because that would have the most poetic justice, and invoke the classic trope of Oedipus; through fighting destiny you will cause it to happen.
Speaking of Dragonflight unresolved story threads, unless I've completely missed it somewhere, what about the red dragon egg that's been infused with elemental energy that we and Sendrax save and is currently just sitting at the Ruby Lifepools where Alex said she's going to try to save it?
One more unresolved plot point that's been bugging me: what about the mother oathstone? It should have been the culmination of the main story-line. We went to all that trouble to restore each flight's oathstones throughout the isles, which Alexstrasza thought would then allow her to activate the mother oathstone and use it to restore the aspects' power. Except it didn't work. Why didn't it work? We don't know. Cause no one has mentioned it since. It's like the dragons just forgot that they want to restore their aspectral power. After making us traipse around the continent bonking various baddies for that specific purpose. I want a narrative payoff for all my heroic labour!
People keep talking about the gap next to Alexstrasza in that one location, and thinking there's going to be a 6th major flight. Maybe she can't/won't until that comes back up, if it ever does.
Cool video idea. I really like the Decaytriarch, especially with her exit line - so villainous. If I had to guess we might get to meet Dralad as the decay incarnate, and that can be the red dragonflight storyline.
On the world tree point, I personally had the cutscene stop itself automatically...after five seconds. I wonder if a lot of people simply didn't get the cutscene. I also have a tin-foil hat theory that Chromie is going to resolve the issue by somehow taking Nozdormu's place as the leader of the infinites. I'd also like to point out a solution I have for why Nozzie seems to always be blindsided by events: He can't see *all* of time, just the entirety of the prime timeline. Anything that could lead to a departure is outside his purview, so he is not granted knowledge of it. Why? Because the Titans (blizz) don't want him becoming an unstoppable force who knows everything before it happens. His vision is "clouded" so that he becomes uneasy and says "hey, fix that please."
If the Titans actually had perfect time telling abilities, Sargeras couldn't have surprised them with his fall. It's probably more likely that the timelines Nozdormu sees, are just mathematical probabilities and not guarantees.
@@kyleellis1825 Also very probable, I think the point is that he just doesn't have the breadth of knowledge we'd been led to believe he had. I suspect that he was also unaware of the full limits of his vision. He knew it wasn't complete, but he's only now realizing the actual scope of the unknowns.
On the whole decay elemental stuff. For what we can know right now. Decay and Spirit from a shaman point of view are used like a lens to channel the other elemental powers through. Going with this knowledge Wratheye is "just" using a much more intense version of decay than we have seen until now. She is using water and air related abilities just like the dark shamans in Siege of Orgrimmar did.
For me it's rather interesting not having the decay theme handled in form of the mega dungeon. It seems to be a bigger deal than we think especially with the new world tree shaped map hole being right next to it. We will probably deal with it in 10.2 as part of the raid.
I'll join in on the fun. Unresolved plot thread: The Tyr Twist. As story beats go this is about the time when the first big curve ball flies across the plate. Think the Wrathgate in WotLK, or Light's message in Legion. They've seeded the ground with snippets and bits that the Titans and especially Tyr had plans within plans. It's close to time to see what those plans are. I suspect it will reveal two things. 1) Tyr and the Titans really saw the dragons as tools at worst and pets at best. 2) The Titans have a contingency if the dragons prove too willful and the only reason it hasn't activated sooner was because the Isles were hidden. O
I'm still sticking by my theory from the beginning of dragonflight that Norzdormu has ALWAYS been Muruzond and has been playing both sides as a way of controlling the outcome of the timeline. That is, neither Bronze nor Infinite dragonflights could achieve his goals on their own, so he's guiding both at the same time.
You raise a good point about Eon’s Fringe, BUT there was a place in Bastion I expected to become relevant but never did, the Chamber of Unspoken Pacts where there was a Fire orb, Ice crystal, and an Arcane crystal which as a mage player I was always curious about since the Kyrian were all about order and their abilities are half Arcane damage, half holy damage, and there were stone giants exactly like Azerothian ones there too
I genuinely hope that the primal incarnates made a pact with the light to counteract neltharions pact with the void. It would make sense and sort of pick away at the light similar to how the titans are being picked at.
@@decwow Deconstronctions are fine when that was always the plan. But this is just turning it into A Starwars prequel/sequel trilogy. People who liked the heroic story are now being told it was never that way. Really sucks for the people who cared for decades.
@@kyleellis1825 I still don't like them even when they are the plan, but I understand what you mean. I'm one of those people. I've been with this story since Warcraft: Orcs and Humans.....and you're right.... it sucks.
Another thing that needs resolving is the currently unused choir of frogs in the large empty area right next to valdrakken. It seems tobe a place for celebration with the frog choir and all the flight banners, but there is just nothing there yet and i wonder when it will finally be used
I don't know if it's been said, but what if, instead of stopping the change, Chromie is actually the cause of it all because she is trying so hard to prevent it? Consumed by fear of not being able to stop the change, she could be corrupted by the Sha of Fear in a timeline where the Mist of Pandaria expansion went horrible wrong. The Infinite Dragon Flight and the Sha do share a similar color palette.
The issue is that Nozdormu’s death is pretty much sealed. In the Shattering (the novel) they pretty much made it clear that trying to avert his death or seeking the cause of it will automatically lead to Murozond.
Good point, but I think that in the case of the sha, the issue of colors, I imagine it was more an artistic choice at the time, to imitate Ying and Yang, than necessarily their relationship with the infinite. But I think this theory is super valid that the culprit for the appearance of Moruzond is Chromie... and Nozdormu, is being "proactive" with us and with her in order to bring about this end soon... to preserve the line temporal and let all that happen, because that's HOW he turns into his evil version, as it should be, so I theorize that when Moruzond actually dies... Chromie understands the inevitability of time and is the new bronze Aspect
The emerald flight storyline about growth is absolutely going to collide with the Decay storyline. I also believe this would be a 10.2 instead of 10.3 because the story about Alexstrasza and the ruby flight will be the pinnacle of the expansion. We're going to get a big revelation about the Titans and how the aspects are involvement.
I'm curious If the Rot we see in Dragonflight is similar to the Rot that took nythandria in Emerald Nightmare. If that's true than Rot might also have ties with the Emerald nightmare leading the conclusion or more set up coming in the emerald dream tree stuff coming soon.
We can visit the time frozen village? Awesome! I'm hoping we'll get to quest in the nearby Stormdrake area too, as there's next to no explanation for that place.
I would actually think it would be more thematic for Chromie's efforts to stop Murozond lead to Nozdormuu actually becoming him. If Nozdormu never made the turn, and his destiny was changed, it would actually be pretty diappointing. Almost like a Chekov's gun situation.
Nozdormus transformation is triggered by trying to change his destiny to turn into murozond so yeah that has to happen with chromies efforts. We were already fighting murozond, he cannot just not turn into murozond at that point
1. The Dark Dealings Iridikron made is most likely the Jaradin in 10.1 (Solved) 2. The Gnolls are going to probably be the raid in 10.2 with the World Tree being the zone/supporting story possibly within the Emerald Dream itself. 3. Avaloren is a thread for the future expacs.
I still want to save Nozdormu from going crazy, Murizond or no. He's just so resigned to it, that I think the uncertainty (and daring to possibly hope for something better from his life) would be so cool to explore, plus there's the added bonus of poking at the Titans' One True Timeline For The Sake Of Order thing.
Evitel - Maybe you did in a previous recording, but from now on, you need to highlight the "All-Over Print Bandana" on your products page, seeing it looks incredibly like the Wanderer's Snowy Scarf, and everyone loves the scarves, right, Taliesin?
It’s very interesting to me the void creatures in the basement were tagged as Demons, not Abberations, because I think it’s been long enough now the Legion is gone to revisit the Nether, and the Legion had lots of members using Void/Shadow powers, and the Voidwalker is a “demon”
"Demon" is basically analogous with "alien" in the warcraft universe. They're all from space, or other conquered planets. Grommash (who is an alien from an Azerothian point of view) didn't drink demon blood, he drank alien blood. If the faceless ones were tagged as demons, I could see that being something that slipped through the cracks, or to give paladins some extra ability interactions.
WTB the city of Azol'Nerub. There's a whole race of subterranean spider-people that we've just ignored since they last-second slapped a bandaid dungeon over them.
It’s the kind of thing I feel where if we actually prevent Murozond then that means the Infinites win, because we will have done what they always tell us they want, to “shatter this clockwork universe”
did we ever get a Drust conclusion? a mini raid or did they just leave that one along with the crusade of light tingy from the maghar allied race quest?
I believe we sent most of them packing back to mini drust realm similar to that of Helya’s realm. However Helya has been seen in 3 realms (Hellheim, the Maw & Azeroth) and the drust also came to Azeroth so I’m sure they’ll be back!
As to Nathanos.. I'm pretty sure his story IS resolved.. died a big glorious limited time world boss death.. for no reason.. he was just consumed into the jailer's forces exactly like all the rest.. I think that's perfectly poetic justice for him
Some speculation is putting the Infinites up as a sixth dragonflight, and I'm behind that idea, and I think it could be taken a step further. What if Nozdormu isn't turned into Murozond so much as Murozond splits off as a separate entity? Wibbly wobbly stuff happens, we decide maybe there doesn't need to be just the one timeline, and there's an uneasy invitation to the council. Also explains why infinite dragons would allow themselves to be ridden.
I just had a thought re: Nozi. What if he *needs* to become Murozond? Think about it. Who can see every possible truth/possibility? The Void Lords. What is we just need to keep him from going balls to the wall mad because he'd be a best asset against the Void in the future? I mean, he said the End Time was better than what the "sacred" timeline eventually leads to. What if all we/Chromie needs to do is keep him from going mad in *this* timeline?
Exiles reach! I think it would be cool to go there to solve the decay stuff... Back in the day, when they put that island in the game, I wondered, If this has something to do with the dragon Islands. At least it got a similar vibe to it.
The BFA stuff with the blood trolls I think also hat a lot of decay stuff with it I thought? I noticed while doing mythic dungeons that the underot has mobs saying the EXACT same phrase as the knolls, they both say "rot and wither" and have similar attacks I think. The thing with that too was a death magic that wasn't actually tied to the LOA of death right?
Still waiting for the explanation of the anima rift things from SL. They were everywhere but we have no real explanation of who they are, where they are from, etc
Danuser is still in charge, we all know that will be just another plot line left on the bottom of someone's drawer like the bazillion other similar things that came before.
Danuser is just your scapegoat so this is getting stupid. To answer his question, its probably dropped until we do something SL related but...if the fanbase gets its way...we won't ever get an answer.
@@ChrisBear1989they had to scrap a major patch from SL, I assume that was part of it. I’d rather they move on into Dragonflight than spend six more months into SL just to wrap up dangling story threads.
Interestingly enough: If Chromie saves Nozdormu. the Infinite dragon Flight will still come to pass, as time will not happen as it was meant to be. Thus they still try to make Nozdormu happen. Soo, Chromie's quest to save Nozdormu is kind of a lost cause.
One thing nobody seems to think about is chromie time. I think Chrome time is Chromie messing with the timelines looking for a solution, or rathe, making us fix her shit like always.
Probably not the case, but would love if the Decatriarch is smarter than the average Gnoll because they aren't a Gnoll but a 5th Incarnate in their humanoid form. One who may alrdy have been hiding their true form back in the original conflict between the dragons.
I genuinely believe this expansion will see *all* Aspects replaced before the end. Nozzy and Alex both need to pass on their Aspect to successors, whether it takes their lives to do so or not. So maybe Chromie *can* stop Murozond from existing, but has to take on the Aspect of Time in order to do so. And if I get MY wishes realized, we'll also gain one or two new Aspects. I still want the essence of the Incarnate of the Storm to pass on to the dragons of Storm Peaks and get a new Aspect of the Storm, Thrymjaris (or Vethir, maybe). Give their backstory an explanation, damnit!
We all know that Nozdormu is gonna turn into Murozond, and then 10 seconds later come back, turn back into Nozdormu and be all "wellp, all the badie things you've seen Murozond do and wil see him do in the future I've done already, let's continue being good guys!"
The spirit element on the planet was consumed by the Azeroth Titan worldsoul in the ancient past, which is why the elements were all fighting each other. That said gimme decay magic.
What about the black dragon in stasis at the Forbidden Reach? The stasis field was being powered by the creches of the Dracthyr to keep that dragon frozen for some reason. Who is that dragon? Why were they frozen in stasis?
Great video. I'm always behind the curve on keeping up with expansion story lines, and assume any thing that seems like a loose end is something i haven't gotten to yet. Though, i'm doing the best at keeping up since Legion.
Preventing Nozdormu from becoming Murozond entails removing his instanced fight, any relevant achievements, and Blizz gaslighting us about him ever being in the game, all things which we know from firsthand experience that Blizzard is capable of
Ominous try the most bone chilling threat I've ever heard a 5-man boss ever utter in wows history. She promised that she's going to take everything from us as we took from her.
Actually that would make sense, but I don't expect to see an incarnate or an elemental lord of spirit because it''s been stated in the lore that the world soul of Azeroth consumed the element of spirit from the entire world
Not entirely - chi that Monks use is another name for spirit. The world soul ate most of it, which is why the elements got so out of whack, but there is still a small amount.
I am super invested in the new merch storyline for the Squarespace sub plot. What will Evi come up with? Will it be done in time for Blizzcon? I gots to know!!!
but isn't the rot line the continuation of the drust plot? all being natural death magic and what not? i don't see the drust plot from bfa being solved in shadowlands with that one cameo in the ardenwald invasion (redid it recently)
I dont know where you take that Chromie is going to stop Noz transformation. Is clear from the video that he is implying that he needs to be killed when he transform and Chromie is stating that she will find another way to save him. Which is possible as we have not killed him in his infinite form "Yet" and future can be changed.
UH what/ YES WE DID.. It's called the End Time dungeon. he was quite clear about the fact that that was the end he saw ( that Aman'thul showed him) He simply doesnt know HOW he becomes Murozond
@@ZakhadWOW No, we will... actually we will kill him in a future that is no longer part of the main timeline as we killed Deathwing. So it will not happen in this timeline, therefore it is preventable in this timeline.
The world tree being in the isles would make me so sad. Not only was there an attempted genocide, but now we get kicked off of our home continent altogether. Shout out worgen who are double unhoused
I need Blizzard to have the old god temple from the pre-vanilla concept builds to rise from the sea right where Tali suggests the new world tree will be. 🤞🏼
Is it still Canon that the majority of the spirit element was absorbed by Azeroth in her early days and that's why the elementals were in disarray and fighting before the old gods showed up? Or has that changed lol
i think Chromie is going to kick off Nozdormu turning into Murozond. i think she's going to start of the chain reaction which leads to it, like a self fulfilling prophecy.
I can see them making Mourozand a raid boss for one of the future raids and then in Nozdormu's stead Chromie will become a new Bronze Aspect. I personally don't want that to happen because i like Nozdormu as a character so it would suck to see him go but it is a high chance of that happening at some point
Calling it now, Chromie saying she'll find away. Morchie is the way she saves him. Morchie is her taking the place in becoming the leader of the infinite dragon flight. How? no idea, but I'm placing my bets that is what will happen
I think it would be cool to try and save Nozdormu from turning and fail. But I honestly think we will actually save him. I feel that important characters in WoW tend to have "good" endings lately and we're missing some tragedy as well to make things feel like there are stakes in all that we do and not just winning and winning.
Regarding the "Chromie will find a way to save Nozdormu" theory, I have another suggestion - Chromie will, through her "searching ALL possibilities" inevitably CAUSE the transformation from Noz -> Murozond. Because that would have the most poetic justice, and invoke the classic trope of Oedipus; through fighting destiny you will cause it to happen.
Or she'll take his place in some what and it's her who'll transform
@@DhiscoStu feels like she would definitely be the next aspect anyhow
**Miguel Ohara's theme starts playing**
There must always be a Murozond!
decatriarch is definitely going to be a mid raid boss in an emerald dream raid where she trying to rot the dream :P
I can get behind that.
i guess she will team up with the incarnates when they attack the growing worldtree
Sounds good, but feels repetitive because of emerald nightmare reasons
Or a mini raid with other gnolls
@@Odium16Oh god, a rotting world tree? A symbol of death and decay? 😂😂😂
Speaking of Dragonflight unresolved story threads, unless I've completely missed it somewhere, what about the red dragon egg that's been infused with elemental energy that we and Sendrax save and is currently just sitting at the Ruby Lifepools where Alex said she's going to try to save it?
One more unresolved plot point that's been bugging me: what about the mother oathstone? It should have been the culmination of the main story-line. We went to all that trouble to restore each flight's oathstones throughout the isles, which Alexstrasza thought would then allow her to activate the mother oathstone and use it to restore the aspects' power. Except it didn't work. Why didn't it work? We don't know. Cause no one has mentioned it since. It's like the dragons just forgot that they want to restore their aspectral power. After making us traipse around the continent bonking various baddies for that specific purpose. I want a narrative payoff for all my heroic labour!
People keep talking about the gap next to Alexstrasza in that one location, and thinking there's going to be a 6th major flight. Maybe she can't/won't until that comes back up, if it ever does.
Cool video idea. I really like the Decaytriarch, especially with her exit line - so villainous. If I had to guess we might get to meet Dralad as the decay incarnate, and that can be the red dragonflight storyline.
Life vs Decay would thematically make sense, so I'm down.
Honestly, I didn’t realize that the gnoll boss survived that encounter. I thought they just rotted away at the end
Tali, turning simple stories into master piece since 2016 !
15:15 has got to be one of the best and funniest RUclips video transitions I have ever seen. Well done T&E!
On the world tree point, I personally had the cutscene stop itself automatically...after five seconds. I wonder if a lot of people simply didn't get the cutscene.
I also have a tin-foil hat theory that Chromie is going to resolve the issue by somehow taking Nozdormu's place as the leader of the infinites.
I'd also like to point out a solution I have for why Nozzie seems to always be blindsided by events: He can't see *all* of time, just the entirety of the prime timeline. Anything that could lead to a departure is outside his purview, so he is not granted knowledge of it. Why? Because the Titans (blizz) don't want him becoming an unstoppable force who knows everything before it happens. His vision is "clouded" so that he becomes uneasy and says "hey, fix that please."
If the Titans actually had perfect time telling abilities, Sargeras couldn't have surprised them with his fall. It's probably more likely that the timelines Nozdormu sees, are just mathematical probabilities and not guarantees.
@@kyleellis1825 Also very probable, I think the point is that he just doesn't have the breadth of knowledge we'd been led to believe he had. I suspect that he was also unaware of the full limits of his vision. He knew it wasn't complete, but he's only now realizing the actual scope of the unknowns.
We'd probably get Night Elf heritage armor with the World Tree patch, which could actually delve into a lot more for NEs.
Oh so we are getting a video at this outrageous hour 😂
What hour?
What hour?
What sword?
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I was referring to Talis tweet 😂 chill
random side note, I always pronounced Decatriarch with an "ark" sound, as I assumed it fell under the same lines as "matriarch" and "patriarch"
"Decay-tree-arc"
Yes, you are correct. Tali has a history of charming mispronunciations. Like saying conquistador as con-QWISS-tador :P
@@frenchbassguy but that's exactly how it's pronounced in British English, tho
Tali has said multiple times that he always misspronounce some word on purpose for comment engagement :) TLDR - he is trolling us.
@@pepepicapinto543 british english is allowed to be wrong sometimes as a treat
On the whole decay elemental stuff.
For what we can know right now. Decay and Spirit from a shaman point of view are used like a lens to channel the other elemental powers through.
Going with this knowledge Wratheye is "just" using a much more intense version of decay than we have seen until now.
She is using water and air related abilities just like the dark shamans in Siege of Orgrimmar did.
For me it's rather interesting not having the decay theme handled in form of the mega dungeon. It seems to be a bigger deal than we think especially with the new world tree shaped map hole being right next to it. We will probably deal with it in 10.2 as part of the raid.
May just be a hint of the decay elemental for future expansion themes.
So glad to finally see Eon’s Fringe updated. As an RP realm player, I love these little actually significant towns outside of the capital cities.
i loved the story about the gnolls and the decay magic. Hopefully there is gonna be more!
I'll join in on the fun. Unresolved plot thread: The Tyr Twist.
As story beats go this is about the time when the first big curve ball flies across the plate.
Think the Wrathgate in WotLK, or Light's message in Legion. They've seeded the ground with snippets and bits that the Titans and especially Tyr had plans within plans. It's close to time to see what those plans are. I suspect it will reveal two things. 1) Tyr and the Titans really saw the dragons as tools at worst and pets at best.
2) The Titans have a contingency if the dragons prove too willful and the only reason it hasn't activated sooner was because the Isles were hidden.
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There IS a reference to the lifepools' water being made to keep the dragons subtly on the side of Order.
I'm still sticking by my theory from the beginning of dragonflight that Norzdormu has ALWAYS been Muruzond and has been playing both sides as a way of controlling the outcome of the timeline. That is, neither Bronze nor Infinite dragonflights could achieve his goals on their own, so he's guiding both at the same time.
You raise a good point about Eon’s Fringe, BUT there was a place in Bastion I expected to become relevant but never did, the Chamber of Unspoken Pacts where there was a Fire orb, Ice crystal, and an Arcane crystal which as a mage player I was always curious about since the Kyrian were all about order and their abilities are half Arcane damage, half holy damage, and there were stone giants exactly like Azerothian ones there too
I genuinely hope that the primal incarnates made a pact with the light to counteract neltharions pact with the void. It would make sense and sort of pick away at the light similar to how the titans are being picked at.
No thanks.
I like my stories to be heroic. Deconstructions are for "edgy" sophomore feminists.
@@decwow Deconstronctions are fine when that was always the plan. But this is just turning it into A Starwars prequel/sequel trilogy.
People who liked the heroic story are now being told it was never that way. Really sucks for the people who cared for decades.
@@kyleellis1825
I still don't like them even when they are the plan, but I understand what you mean.
I'm one of those people. I've been with this story since Warcraft: Orcs and Humans.....and you're right.... it sucks.
@@decwow wtf do feminists have to do with anything discussed in my post? Where do you weirdos come from lmao
@@decwow everything was fine until you threw feminists in for no reason lmao
Another thing that needs resolving is the currently unused choir of frogs in the large empty area right next to valdrakken.
It seems tobe a place for celebration with the frog choir and all the flight banners, but there is just nothing there yet and i wonder when it will finally be used
I don't know if it's been said, but what if, instead of stopping the change, Chromie is actually the cause of it all because she is trying so hard to prevent it? Consumed by fear of not being able to stop the change, she could be corrupted by the Sha of Fear in a timeline where the Mist of Pandaria expansion went horrible wrong. The Infinite Dragon Flight and the Sha do share a similar color palette.
Sha are pieces of Ysharrj, and he's been vaporized with Garrosh's defeat in SOO
@@zom8680 Yeah in this timeline.
The issue is that Nozdormu’s death is pretty much sealed.
In the Shattering (the novel) they pretty much made it clear that trying to avert his death or seeking the cause of it will automatically lead to Murozond.
Good point, but I think that in the case of the sha, the issue of colors, I imagine it was more an artistic choice at the time, to imitate Ying and Yang, than necessarily their relationship with the infinite.
But I think this theory is super valid that the culprit for the appearance of Moruzond is Chromie... and Nozdormu, is being "proactive" with us and with her in order to bring about this end soon... to preserve the line temporal and let all that happen, because that's HOW he turns into his evil version, as it should be, so I theorize that when Moruzond actually dies... Chromie understands the inevitability of time and is the new bronze Aspect
Or the only way for nozdormu to survive is to become moruzond so chromie pushes him to become that in a twisted way to protect him
You don't need mining to get the bear cub- you can get it with the explosives from the dragonscale expedition.
The emerald flight storyline about growth is absolutely going to collide with the Decay storyline. I also believe this would be a 10.2 instead of 10.3 because the story about Alexstrasza and the ruby flight will be the pinnacle of the expansion. We're going to get a big revelation about the Titans and how the aspects are involvement.
I really dont expect any story to be wrapped up and finished before i die anymore.
I'm curious If the Rot we see in Dragonflight is similar to the Rot that took nythandria in Emerald Nightmare. If that's true than Rot might also have ties with the Emerald nightmare leading the conclusion or more set up coming in the emerald dream tree stuff coming soon.
Literally never seen that Eon's Fringe area before. Going to head there today!
We can visit the time frozen village? Awesome! I'm hoping we'll get to quest in the nearby Stormdrake area too, as there's next to no explanation for that place.
I would actually think it would be more thematic for Chromie's efforts to stop Murozond lead to Nozdormuu actually becoming him. If Nozdormu never made the turn, and his destiny was changed, it would actually be pretty diappointing. Almost like a Chekov's gun situation.
Nozdormus transformation is triggered by trying to change his destiny to turn into murozond so yeah that has to happen with chromies efforts. We were already fighting murozond, he cannot just not turn into murozond at that point
@@Odium16 We met 2 Guldans. Murozond can still just be A Nozdormu from a no longer existing timeline and he doesn't want to fade into nothing.
I mean, they could have it so that Chromie successfully saves Nozdormu from his fate, but in doing so have Chromie become Murozand somehow.
@@kyleellis1825 no he cant, there is only one nozdormu in all timelines
1. The Dark Dealings Iridikron made is most likely the Jaradin in 10.1 (Solved)
2. The Gnolls are going to probably be the raid in 10.2 with the World Tree being the zone/supporting story possibly within the Emerald Dream itself.
3. Avaloren is a thread for the future expacs.
I still want to save Nozdormu from going crazy, Murizond or no. He's just so resigned to it, that I think the uncertainty (and daring to possibly hope for something better from his life) would be so cool to explore, plus there's the added bonus of poking at the Titans' One True Timeline For The Sake Of Order thing.
Evitel - Maybe you did in a previous recording, but from now on, you need to highlight the "All-Over Print Bandana" on your products page, seeing it looks incredibly like the Wanderer's Snowy Scarf, and everyone loves the scarves, right, Taliesin?
What an unholy hour to have a T&E video!
It’s very interesting to me the void creatures in the basement were tagged as Demons, not Abberations, because I think it’s been long enough now the Legion is gone to revisit the Nether, and the Legion had lots of members using Void/Shadow powers, and the Voidwalker is a “demon”
"Demon" is basically analogous with "alien" in the warcraft universe. They're all from space, or other conquered planets. Grommash (who is an alien from an Azerothian point of view) didn't drink demon blood, he drank alien blood. If the faceless ones were tagged as demons, I could see that being something that slipped through the cracks, or to give paladins some extra ability interactions.
WTB the city of Azol'Nerub.
There's a whole race of subterranean spider-people that we've just ignored since they last-second slapped a bandaid dungeon over them.
I NEVER thought the Decaytriarch teleported away, I thought she rotted away in a big explosion of decay
I have never been to Eon's Fringe actually. Definitely have to stop by before it changes next patch!
Yes! Grow a new World Tree on top of a void portal... what could possibly go wrong?
It’s the kind of thing I feel where if we actually prevent Murozond then that means the Infinites win, because we will have done what they always tell us they want, to “shatter this clockwork universe”
did we ever get a Drust conclusion? a mini raid or did they just leave that one along with the crusade of light tingy from the maghar allied race quest?
I believe we sent most of them packing back to mini drust realm similar to that of Helya’s realm. However Helya has been seen in 3 realms (Hellheim, the Maw & Azeroth) and the drust also came to Azeroth so I’m sure they’ll be back!
The original intended conclusion/continuation as supposed to be way more fleshed out in SL, but sadly it got dropped like so many sacks of potatoes.
I've been wondering about Tyr. That's still kind of up in the air.
100% on nozdormu being surprised at every important thing.
As to Nathanos.. I'm pretty sure his story IS resolved.. died a big glorious limited time world boss death.. for no reason.. he was just consumed into the jailer's forces exactly like all the rest.. I think that's perfectly poetic justice for him
Some speculation is putting the Infinites up as a sixth dragonflight, and I'm behind that idea, and I think it could be taken a step further. What if Nozdormu isn't turned into Murozond so much as Murozond splits off as a separate entity? Wibbly wobbly stuff happens, we decide maybe there doesn't need to be just the one timeline, and there's an uneasy invitation to the council. Also explains why infinite dragons would allow themselves to be ridden.
I just had a thought re: Nozi. What if he *needs* to become Murozond? Think about it. Who can see every possible truth/possibility? The Void Lords. What is we just need to keep him from going balls to the wall mad because he'd be a best asset against the Void in the future? I mean, he said the End Time was better than what the "sacred" timeline eventually leads to. What if all we/Chromie needs to do is keep him from going mad in *this* timeline?
Exiles reach! I think it would be cool to go there to solve the decay stuff... Back in the day, when they put that island in the game, I wondered, If this has something to do with the dragon Islands.
At least it got a similar vibe to it.
The BFA stuff with the blood trolls I think also hat a lot of decay stuff with it I thought? I noticed while doing mythic dungeons that the underot has mobs saying the EXACT same phrase as the knolls, they both say "rot and wither" and have similar attacks I think. The thing with that too was a death magic that wasn't actually tied to the LOA of death right?
no.. clearly not.. it's death magic, aka the Blood Element we see in the DK toolkit
I definitely did not skip the spot where Eviltel told us about Square Space.
Still waiting for the explanation of the anima rift things from SL. They were everywhere but we have no real explanation of who they are, where they are from, etc
Danuser is still in charge, we all know that will be just another plot line left on the bottom of someone's drawer like the bazillion other similar things that came before.
Danuser is just your scapegoat so this is getting stupid. To answer his question, its probably dropped until we do something SL related but...if the fanbase gets its way...we won't ever get an answer.
@@ChrisBear1989they had to scrap a major patch from SL, I assume that was part of it. I’d rather they move on into Dragonflight than spend six more months into SL just to wrap up dangling story threads.
They did explain them. They come from the In Between.
@@monkeysk8er33 And that’s exactly what? 😂
Interestingly enough: If Chromie saves Nozdormu.
the Infinite dragon Flight will still come to pass, as time will not happen as it was meant to be.
Thus they still try to make Nozdormu happen.
Soo, Chromie's quest to save Nozdormu is kind of a lost cause.
One thing nobody seems to think about is chromie time. I think Chrome time is Chromie messing with the timelines looking for a solution, or rathe, making us fix her shit like always.
It’s gonna play out like Looper, where Norzdormu kills or sacrifices himself to prevent Murozond from ever existing
Hey there, Eons reach does have quests :) i dont remember the name of them but i definately remember doing a couple of quests there!
my Vulpera Shaman would LOVE to wear Wraitheyes outfit! We need more like that!
Probably not the case, but would love if the Decatriarch is smarter than the average Gnoll because they aren't a Gnoll but a 5th Incarnate in their humanoid form. One who may alrdy have been hiding their true form back in the original conflict between the dragons.
I just watched the new Nozdormu video that release 5 hours ago. Soooo good.
I genuinely believe this expansion will see *all* Aspects replaced before the end. Nozzy and Alex both need to pass on their Aspect to successors, whether it takes their lives to do so or not. So maybe Chromie *can* stop Murozond from existing, but has to take on the Aspect of Time in order to do so.
And if I get MY wishes realized, we'll also gain one or two new Aspects. I still want the essence of the Incarnate of the Storm to pass on to the dragons of Storm Peaks and get a new Aspect of the Storm, Thrymjaris (or Vethir, maybe). Give their backstory an explanation, damnit!
We all know that Nozdormu is gonna turn into Murozond, and then 10 seconds later come back, turn back into Nozdormu and be all "wellp, all the badie things you've seen Murozond do and wil see him do in the future I've done already, let's continue being good guys!"
14:55 Bob, how did you get so tanned? 🥹
I too have a unfocused day when the pollen numbers are high, can’t blame nozdormu for never being on time
You didn’t mention how uncomfortably close Brackenhide aka ALL THAT DECAY MAGIC is to the location of the new World Tree 😮
Witch Doctor class incoming. Or it could be a support spec of the shaman, like augumentation for evoker. Who knows.
The Voidportal will become the new Sword
The spirit element on the planet was consumed by the Azeroth Titan worldsoul in the ancient past, which is why the elements were all fighting each other. That said gimme decay magic.
Number 06: Ilgynoths prophecies from Legion and BFA......
Trying to break the timeline by stopping Nozzy’s transformation is probably what causes his transformation.
In new expac we go some travelling, and after that in patch 12.** we'll see the new world tree grown
Really hope that decay magic and that whole storyline gets a lot more love.
Let's goooo perfect timing for a video as I was like huh.. where's Tali been??
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What about the black dragon in stasis at the Forbidden Reach? The stasis field was being powered by the creches of the Dracthyr to keep that dragon frozen for some reason. Who is that dragon? Why were they frozen in stasis?
Great video. I'm always behind the curve on keeping up with expansion story lines, and assume any thing that seems like a loose end is something i haven't gotten to yet. Though, i'm doing the best at keeping up since Legion.
Preventing Nozdormu from becoming Murozond entails removing his instanced fight, any relevant achievements, and Blizz gaslighting us about him ever being in the game, all things which we know from firsthand experience that Blizzard is capable of
Ominous try the most bone chilling threat I've ever heard a 5-man boss ever utter in wows history. She promised that she's going to take everything from us as we took from her.
We're gonna use the portal to the void to dispose of that giant sword sticking out of that desert that we're totally dealing with still.
You missed out the Tyr Situation... I mean the Tyr in the dungeon is not the new husk we build right?
Still pulling for it to be revealed that Galakrond was an incarnate of Decay, and there's some hidden incarnate of Spirit.
Actually that would make sense, but I don't expect to see an incarnate or an elemental lord of spirit because it''s been stated in the lore that the world soul of Azeroth consumed the element of spirit from the entire world
Not entirely - chi that Monks use is another name for spirit. The world soul ate most of it, which is why the elements got so out of whack, but there is still a small amount.
If that old post predicting expansions still holds next one should be elementals so I think that's where we'll see decatriarch again
I am super invested in the new merch storyline for the Squarespace sub plot. What will Evi come up with? Will it be done in time for Blizzcon? I gots to know!!!
but isn't the rot line the continuation of the drust plot? all being natural death magic and what not?
i don't see the drust plot from bfa being solved in shadowlands with that one cameo in the ardenwald invasion (redid it recently)
I dont know where you take that Chromie is going to stop Noz transformation. Is clear from the video that he is implying that he needs to be killed when he transform and Chromie is stating that she will find another way to save him. Which is possible as we have not killed him in his infinite form "Yet" and future can be changed.
UH what/ YES WE DID.. It's called the End Time dungeon. he was quite clear about the fact that that was the end he saw ( that Aman'thul showed him) He simply doesnt know HOW he becomes Murozond
@@ZakhadWOW No, we will... actually we will kill him in a future that is no longer part of the main timeline as we killed Deathwing. So it will not happen in this timeline, therefore it is preventable in this timeline.
The world tree being in the isles would make me so sad. Not only was there an attempted genocide, but now we get kicked off of our home continent altogether. Shout out worgen who are double unhoused
Silas Darmoon is the old god in the window in abberrus
I need Blizzard to have the old god temple from the pre-vanilla concept builds to rise from the sea right where Tali suggests the new world tree will be. 🤞🏼
Is it still Canon that the majority of the spirit element was absorbed by Azeroth in her early days and that's why the elementals were in disarray and fighting before the old gods showed up? Or has that changed lol
That's something I've also been wondering
i think Chromie is going to kick off Nozdormu turning into Murozond. i think she's going to start of the chain reaction which leads to it, like a self fulfilling prophecy.
What if Chromie's solution to Nozdormu not becoming an infinite, is how Chromie becomes an infinite...someone has to, so she took his place?
I can see them making Mourozand a raid boss for one of the future raids and then in Nozdormu's stead Chromie will become a new Bronze Aspect. I personally don't want that to happen because i like Nozdormu as a character so it would suck to see him go but it is a high chance of that happening at some point
I do indeed not skip the ads. There can never be enough Evitel after all. Can't all just be Tali. Otherwise it would be "T" and not "T&E".
We never skip you Evi
Outrageous hour
The megadungeon doesn't resolve the whole murozond thing in our own timeline
Tali you were especially hilarious in this one
wait angry gnome? we're getting angry chromie?...awesome
How many stacks of that debuff can you get before you're in trouble in Eon's Fringe?
Didn't the Nazmani practice decay magic? Is it different because troll witch doctors aren't actually shamans?
If anyone can save Nozdormu, Chromie can. I really hope she pulls it off!
I hope Blizzard will keep safe the bears parents and reunite them with their cub and live happily all 3 of them together!!!!!
I currently have 750 grams of Epoisses de Bourgogne. This is unrelated to Wow, but it is a storyline that I will be concluding over the next few weeks
It's true, I wouldn't dare skipping Evitel...
Taliesin to Bill(izzard): We have unfinished business!
Calling it now, Chromie saying she'll find away. Morchie is the way she saves him. Morchie is her taking the place in becoming the leader of the infinite dragon flight. How? no idea, but I'm placing my bets that is what will happen
I think it would be cool to try and save Nozdormu from turning and fail. But I honestly think we will actually save him.
I feel that important characters in WoW tend to have "good" endings lately and we're missing some tragedy as well to make things feel like there are stakes in all that we do and not just winning and winning.