Super useful!! Have the Hero Z690 with a 12900K and was actually wondering if the 13900K would work at full potential. I remember some news months ago about being much slower on Z690 but was probably due to outdated BIOS. So not a problem right now 👍👍
Thank you for the comparison! The price difference between z690 and z790 is at least $100 CAD - for the same manufacturer/model in my area! This saved me that much!
The big differences between these two is the Bluetooth 5.2 vs 5.3. That only matters if the Bluetooth device you're using can take advantage of version 5.3 features or not. I highly doubt there's very many 5.3 capable devices out yet. There's also higher memory support built-in. DDR5 4800 vs 5600 standard. DDR5 6400 vs 7200. That's mostly to do with the memory controller on the 12th vs 13th CPU. It may not physically look different, but I imagine the Z790 would have better support for the highest clocked RAM vs the Z690.
Depending on the motherboard my Asus maximus z690 extreme can run up to 6600Mhz while some got it to 7000 but 6600 is def a good number and wont be much diff to 7000 on the z790
@@khaos555 Not much to a gamer, but noticeable enough to an overclocker doing benchmarks. I've tested my 13900k with DDR4 and DDR5 setups and it's hard to tell the difference with an eye test on average speed RAM. Where I believe the noticeable differences rest is in the lower latency RAM combined with higher clock speeds. Then you would notice snappier loading and smoother gameplay. It's just not as dramatic as say upgrading your video card.
@@83n80y Yes I forgot all about DDR4 LOL, I actually have the DDR 5 version since there is a noticeable difference between both on real-time benchmarks, and yes processor is another thing my new build will have i9 13900k so I'm sure it will be good, I seem benchmarks on other youtube channels with similar configuration just different Ram speed, and also found some tests you notice the different after 6600 MHz while some did good on 6200mhz, comparing to both 6600mhz to 7000 MHz under this configuration didn't show much difference probably like 5 fps, especially with those from Teamgroup -T-force
@@khaos555 Exactly. I also just read an article that talks about how DDR5 scales memory bandwidth better with higher number of cores... "The more cores that a CPU has, the less memory DDR4 memory bandwidth is available per core. For example, let’s say that you have an eight-core CPU and a fairly standard dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory kit. That works out to roughly 4Gbps of bandwidth per CPU core. But if you upgrade that CPU to a 16-core model, you end up cutting your per-core bandwidth in half. The answer to this problem? DDR5. Pair a sixteen-core CPU with a DDR5-4800 memory kit, and you’ll maintain the same 4Gbps bandwidth per CPU core. DDR5 lets you scale your memory bandwidth even as you bolster your CPU core count." It also talks about the bandwidth lanes are double, like a wider freeway. Always love that comparison. 😁
interesting delivery style. your giving a lot of details yet it seems like your complaining as much as informing. not to say that's bad, just a different presentation style. your providing a lot of details between the 2 boards I really appreciate that. I have the new version Z790 Dark Hero pairing it with 14700k running @6 GHz the new dominator 48gb 7200MT but running at 7400MT also have the 4090 tuf gaming OC and samsung 980 pro 2 TB as my boot drive
I can confirm that the 13900k CPU does perform noticeably better on a better motherboard. I was able to test the CPU on the ASUS TUF Gaming Z790-Plus WiFi and a ASUS TUF Gaming B660M-Plus WiFi D4 motherboard. The difference was 20212 vs 17888 on 3DMark Time Spy CPU score. 33309 vs 28949 on 3DMark 11 Physics score, for example. Those are specific CPU tests. I should've done Geekbench, etc, but I didn't have the boards for long. That was using 5600 C28 on the TUF and 3200 C16 on the B660M-Plus. Also only using an RTX 3080 and Samsung 970 Evo Plus. I haven't done any overclocking or optimized settings on either. Just out of the box stuff. I do think I can get more performance out of this CPU on the Hero board, as evidenced by the superior scores he got in his tests. I think it has to do with the power delivery difference between 2x 8-pin on the Tuf Gaming vs the lower 8+4-pin on the B660M-Plus. That's why I'm looking to buy the Z790 Hero for myself because it also adds a 6-pin ATX connection to the existing 24-pin ATX, on top of all of that.
People likely had problems with raptor lake on z690 because they did not update the management engine firmware. It is a separate update to the bios and failure to do so can yield stability issues and bugged out m.2 slots.
Yeah man that was most likely their issue. I am running the Z690 hero with raptor lake and a 4090 so far have 0 issues and very happy with performance.
@@ronniekregar3482 that’s true now on the latest ASUS bioses. But back when I made this comment, moving from alder lake to raptor lake, the ASUS ME update was separate from the bios update. And since so many people had issues and didn’t realize they needed to update the ME for proper raptor lake support, ASUS did what they should’ve done from the beginning and included the me update in the bios.
And I had the opposite experience. My gskill 64gb 5600cl30 kit worked fine at cl28 and could boot 6400 on 12900k on strix z690-e but dropping in a 13900k cl28 5600 was unstable and 6400 wouldn't post. I had to crank SA voltage to get cl28 stable on 13900k where 12900k didn't need any changes.
I bought my 13700K when it first launched and at the time Z790 boards were much more expensive than Z690's so I just went with a Z690 Asus Strix-F DDR5 Wifi. I paired it with T-Force 32GB 6000 CL30 and it's a pretty solid gaming machine.
Nice explanation, thanks lots of confusing info on Internet For a moment, I was thinking i cracked my tablet screen on the part where you put the back plate lol 😅😅😅
Thanks for the video, it amazing how little actual testing there has been and published on this. My question is was there any RAM testing done beyond just XMP Running? Any stability testing?
Does your Z790 Hero also have issues with losig all USB devices at random? Already replaced once, still have the issue. I dont have this issue on my older boards, same devices.
I found a new z690 lga 1700, new rog strix gaming motherboard lga 1200, i9 10850k, and rtx 3060 ti at my friend's PC recycling warehouse for Free on Christmas Eve what a Merry Christ-mas to me 😁😁
Interesting however I'm still somewhat curious. You're comparing 2 Hero boards which are pretty much top of the line Asus. What might be the difference if we compare 690 vs 790 boards with DDR4? Hero boards are not even available for DDR4. I'm in the process of building a 13th gen system but I skipped 12th gen so my latest Intel is a Z590 board. Thinking of keeping it more budget oriented using DDR4 vs DDR5. This will replace my current gaming rig which is a Z490/i9-10850k.
DDR5 is one of the benefits of the platform. DDR5 is more than just raw mhz in terms of speed increases. Prices have come down a lot. I would say in reality, it's hard to say anything faster than ddr5 6000mhz has a tangible benefit. If you live near a microcenter, you could go the am5 route and get a free set of 32gb ddr5 6000 with any ryzen cpu 7000 series purchase. As for the ddr4 on 13900k your not going to see any differences either.
It all depends on what kind of PC user you are...if you're comfortable in the bios and understand memory tuning, then 13th gen DDR4 is a banger that keeps up with all but the absolute best DDR5 in gaming. If you're a default/stock/XMP performance only user, then I would just get any decent DDR5 board with at least 6400c32 DDR5.
From what I understand is that the Z790 chipset DDR5 XMP (is not for overclocking your CPU, but overclocking your RAM) supposed to run your DDR5 at a higher MHz speed. Not to say that the Z 690 can't get higher DDR5 speeds than what's specified but the Z790 can reach higher speeds (for example 7800+ MHz) easier than the Z690 chipset if it can reach those speeds is what the difference is between both motherboards. The bottom line is that the Z790 does have better PCI Express lane configurations, extra USB 3.2 ports, and higher DDR5 memory clock speeds and everything else should preform about the same.
Your cpu imc will determine how far your memory can go. While improvements have been made on “some” z790 boards for memory overclocking. It really comes down to the cpu. The benefits of the z790 chipset often aren’t fully taken advantage of by lower to mid range boards and even some high end boards. If you check hwbot ram overlock you will see most of the records are also still z690 boards if not the z790 apex which is probably the top board atm for oc
@@JCustom thanks for the response. I'm sure with up coming BIOs for many boards, they all will eventually do better. Yes the boards with only 2 ram dims do better over clocking. I only wish the APEX came in black. I have the ROG Maximus HERO coming in next week. Hopefully it's a great board.
Would have helped the viewing experience if you put a small piece of tape at the bottom of the table so you knew what board you were pointing at. Lost count of how many times you said 790 while pointing at 690 and vice-versa. Just as an idea for future videos
Damn! i ran out and bought the Z790 because the word was we were leaving up to 30% perfomance on the table running a 13th gen on a Z690. I guess i'll start making another PC with the Z690 as a back up.
@@JCustom In the technical documentation for the 790, there is no item about the TPM module, and the place where it stood in the 690 is now an unknown 10-pin connector, moreover, on both sides to the left and right of the battery, which is not indicated in the manual and on the motherboard itself.
Completely unrelated, but my brother has a Asus ROG B550-F (Wi-Fi) with a Ryzen 5 5600 and in the BIOS he's getting extremely massive lag spikes, like for every 1-2 seconds of normal use he's getting like a full second of lag. You wouldn't happen to know what the issue is, would you?
I had that a few weeks ago. Asus strix x570-pro gaming, 5950x. Update the bios, it went away. *edit: it was a **windows** update, not a bios update. I did update my bios, but that did not fix it. Maybe the Microsoft engineers broke something before the holidays, and just got it fixed. Hopefully your problem is also resolved, it sucked!
What sp is your 13900k? i am geting 955 single in cpuz and 2255 in r23 single, 40450 multi in r23. if i enable tvb i am seeing all cores boost to 6ghz and getting 980 single in cpuz and 2342 single in r23. SP99 on a crappy z690-e strix with a liquid freezer 240 aio so nothing special, temps don't exceed 83c Perhaps you have a couple background apps running that are costing you some points. i had a z690 kingpin i just returned it. The bios support for 13th gen is horrible, there is no power limits you can adjust and tvb does not work correctly. At stock the same chip was pulling 370watts with a r23 score of 39000 and hitting 89c. On this z690-e strix this chip does 40450 with the stock pl limit set at 253 and holds all the cores at 5.5 without throttling. Verified with a external power meter and hwinfo64. The evga forums are full of people complaining about issues with 13th gen on the z690 dark. The only advantage i saw was that i could run my 7200 gskill kit at 7400 on the stock xmp with 1.425v but the reduced multi core, much lower single core and insane power consumption drove me back to asus and i hate asus boards to be honest.
I must have a golden IMC on my 12900KF as it on a Z690 Hero could boot my 7800 XMP kit. I just tried it for the lulz as I got it to bench on Z790 but just wanted to see what would happen.
I have the z790 hero and a 13900k , if i use 128 gb of ddr5 g skills cl30 6000mt’s i crash , so far for 3 days I’m fine if i remove the sticks , I’m super bummed about this as i looked for this board because of all the actual x16 slots with true power
So now my question is. I have an i9 12900k in an Aorus Master Z690. I recently won an i9 13900k. Would it be beneficial for me to install the 13900k or just leave it with the 12900k.
that's dependent on cpu. You may have better odds at the extreme oc levels on boards with shorter memory traces like the apex, else wise a prime vs a hero are going to have the same oc chances.
It’s more dependent on your CPU. The motherboard is not going to matter much until you’re looking at 8k and up and even then really only coming into play at extreme speeds like 9-10k
@@JCustom yea but im wondering if that speed is stable on a z690 some ppl report crashes and not very stable . i do want that speed but thats the max oc on those z690 boards maybe i can droop to 6000mhz
@@guilladogui8259 my 6600mhz Corsair dominator not performed well on z690 formula, had to always drop the speeds to 6400 and bump up the voltage. Tried many different ram sticks, RMA'd motherboard and nothing worked. Upgraded to 790 formula and suddenly my 6600mhz RAM works well at 7000mhz with no errors in memtest. From my experience Z690's were the first motherboards to introduce ddr5 so likely stability was still an issue.
7:42 my 12900K with Asus ROG Strix Z690-e gaming wifi board and Trident z5 32gb (16x2) ddr5 6400mhz with xmp enabled will run consistently at 6200 maximum. I get bsod's out the ass at 6400
I've had Asus Motherboards for years and just recently upgraded to the Z690 with a I9 13900k and G.Skillz 6000mhz DDR5. I'm running windows 10 64bit and have seen nothing but system crash after system crash. The crashes became even worse after trying to upgrade to windows 11. So, I reinstalled Windows 10 thinking maybe windows had errors during installation, but I'm still crashing. All that being said I believe Asus has strained itself when it comes to updates for these boards because of the sheer number of boards they sell. They have to many boards and have done nothing to very little to update and correct issues in a timely manner. I'm so frustrated with ASUS. I'd like to move to another motherboard manufacturer but who? Everyone else is just as bad or worse in quality and even worse in Bios' firmware updates. I'm going through all this BS because Microsoft decided to force everyone to upgrade their systems in order to use Windows 11. I'm beginning to think my issues may be from the DDR5 I installed. It may not be compatible with my CPU as stated in the video above even though ASUS says it is. "So Damn Frustrating" Lots of time and money for a headache.
For most folks no. Also, many of the lower end to mid end boards do not have these improvements that benefit from the additional pch lanes. This video was geared more to those who buy these products for desktop and gaming use, but I understand where you are coming from
@@JCustom This statemend, compared with the CPU that you show in the video doesn't match.... I mean only to say the truth. And Hero Boards are not exacly the cheapest boards awailable.
boosting the ram speed is overclocking your cpu imc (memory controller). This is why intel/amd voids your warranty when you enable xmp/docp/expo . It is the same reason why it may take multiple cpus to get one that will do a set speed of ram.
Super useful!! Have the Hero Z690 with a 12900K and was actually wondering if the 13900K would work at full potential. I remember some news months ago about being much slower on Z690 but was probably due to outdated BIOS. So not a problem right now 👍👍
I didn't know Anthony Jeselnik does hardware reviews.
Thanks for the test!
Thanks for the overview! Glad to know z690 doesn’t underperform. Appreciate the time you took to make this video!
Thank you for the comparison! The price difference between z690 and z790 is at least $100 CAD - for the same manufacturer/model in my area! This saved me that much!
The big differences between these two is the Bluetooth 5.2 vs 5.3. That only matters if the Bluetooth device you're using can take advantage of version 5.3 features or not. I highly doubt there's very many 5.3 capable devices out yet.
There's also higher memory support built-in. DDR5 4800 vs 5600 standard. DDR5 6400 vs 7200. That's mostly to do with the memory controller on the 12th vs 13th CPU. It may not physically look different, but I imagine the Z790 would have better support for the highest clocked RAM vs the Z690.
Depending on the motherboard my Asus maximus z690 extreme can run up to 6600Mhz while some got it to 7000 but 6600 is def a good number and wont be much diff to 7000 on the z790
@@khaos555 Not much to a gamer, but noticeable enough to an overclocker doing benchmarks. I've tested my 13900k with DDR4 and DDR5 setups and it's hard to tell the difference with an eye test on average speed RAM. Where I believe the noticeable differences rest is in the lower latency RAM combined with higher clock speeds. Then you would notice snappier loading and smoother gameplay. It's just not as dramatic as say upgrading your video card.
@@83n80y Yes I forgot all about DDR4 LOL, I actually have the DDR 5 version since there is a noticeable difference between both on real-time benchmarks, and yes processor is another thing my new build will have i9 13900k so I'm sure it will be good, I seem benchmarks on other youtube channels with similar configuration just different Ram speed, and also found some tests you notice the different after 6600 MHz while some did good on 6200mhz, comparing to both 6600mhz to 7000 MHz under this configuration didn't show much difference probably like 5 fps, especially with those from Teamgroup -T-force
@@khaos555 Exactly. I also just read an article that talks about how DDR5 scales memory bandwidth better with higher number of cores...
"The more cores that a CPU has, the less memory DDR4 memory bandwidth is available per core. For example, let’s say that you have an eight-core CPU and a fairly standard dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory kit. That works out to roughly 4Gbps of bandwidth per CPU core. But if you upgrade that CPU to a 16-core model, you end up cutting your per-core bandwidth in half.
The answer to this problem? DDR5. Pair a sixteen-core CPU with a DDR5-4800 memory kit, and you’ll maintain the same 4Gbps bandwidth per CPU core. DDR5 lets you scale your memory bandwidth even as you bolster your CPU core count."
It also talks about the bandwidth lanes are double, like a wider freeway. Always love that comparison. 😁
You should make a video on a good set of settings and how to make the adjustments on the z690 and the 13900k voltage adjustments
interesting delivery style. your giving a lot of details yet it seems like your complaining as much as informing. not to say that's bad, just a different presentation style. your providing a lot of details between the 2 boards I really appreciate that. I have the new version Z790 Dark Hero pairing it with 14700k running @6 GHz the new dominator 48gb 7200MT but running at 7400MT also have the 4090 tuf gaming OC and samsung 980 pro 2 TB as my boot drive
I can confirm that the 13900k CPU does perform noticeably better on a better motherboard. I was able to test the CPU on the ASUS TUF Gaming Z790-Plus WiFi and a ASUS TUF Gaming B660M-Plus WiFi D4 motherboard. The difference was 20212 vs 17888 on 3DMark Time Spy CPU score. 33309 vs 28949 on 3DMark 11 Physics score, for example. Those are specific CPU tests. I should've done Geekbench, etc, but I didn't have the boards for long.
That was using 5600 C28 on the TUF and 3200 C16 on the B660M-Plus. Also only using an RTX 3080 and Samsung 970 Evo Plus. I haven't done any overclocking or optimized settings on either. Just out of the box stuff. I do think I can get more performance out of this CPU on the Hero board, as evidenced by the superior scores he got in his tests.
I think it has to do with the power delivery difference between 2x 8-pin on the Tuf Gaming vs the lower 8+4-pin on the B660M-Plus. That's why I'm looking to buy the Z790 Hero for myself because it also adds a 6-pin ATX connection to the existing 24-pin ATX, on top of all of that.
Better motherboard is a completely different thing. Yes comparing the same motherboard just different generation.
Bought a water sensor and set my fan curves based on the water temperature. Gave me that extra OC Boost! Very informative!
Excellent!
The Z790 Hero can run up to 5 PCIe Gen4 NVMEs, 3 of them onboard. The Z690 has one onboard NVME with Gen3 only. So I went with the Z790 obviously.
very useful video for those of us with Z690 motherboards considering an Alder Lake -> Raptor Lake upgrade.
Wow i cant beleive after all these years i was misunderstood on what XMP really is. Apreciate the info and how these parts are workin together
People likely had problems with raptor lake on z690 because they did not update the management engine firmware. It is a separate update to the bios and failure to do so can yield stability issues and bugged out m.2 slots.
Yeah man that was most likely their issue. I am running the Z690 hero with raptor lake and a 4090 so far have 0 issues and very happy with performance.
M.E gets updated automatically when you update bios
@@ronniekregar3482 that’s true now on the latest ASUS bioses. But back when I made this comment, moving from alder lake to raptor lake, the ASUS ME update was separate from the bios update. And since so many people had issues and didn’t realize they needed to update the ME for proper raptor lake support, ASUS did what they should’ve done from the beginning and included the me update in the bios.
Wow. I had a 12900K with G SKILL 6400. Could not get it to work with XMP. I bought the 13900K, and it worked! I am on Z690 from Asus.
And I had the opposite experience. My gskill 64gb 5600cl30 kit worked fine at cl28 and could boot 6400 on 12900k on strix z690-e but dropping in a 13900k cl28 5600 was unstable and 6400 wouldn't post. I had to crank SA voltage to get cl28 stable on 13900k where 12900k didn't need any changes.
@skyman1883 mine was 2 sticks, 2x 32
Oh, yeah, this is the second video I watched and found very informative. I am subscribing...
Thanks
You know what you just earned a subscriber. You remind me of buildzoid
I bought my 13700K when it first launched and at the time Z790 boards were much more expensive than Z690's so I just went with a Z690 Asus Strix-F DDR5 Wifi. I paired it with T-Force 32GB 6000 CL30 and it's a pretty solid gaming machine.
Привет.Слушай , а подойдёт Asus Rog Maximus Z690 Hero под i9 13900kf & RTX 4090?
Can the z690 handle 6400mhz ? Stable ?
Nice explanation, thanks lots of confusing info on Internet
For a moment, I was thinking i cracked my tablet screen on the part where you put the back plate lol 😅😅😅
Thanks for the video, it amazing how little actual testing there has been and published on this. My question is was there any RAM testing done beyond just XMP Running? Any stability testing?
J C do you think its worth it to upgrade from a 12700k to 13700k or even 13600k for gaming?
appreciate this content. keep it up
Thanks
Does your Z790 Hero also have issues with losig all USB devices at random?
Already replaced once, still have the issue. I dont have this issue on my older boards, same devices.
Amazingly I have had this problem before but on a z490 aorus xtreme, not on this board. Would this usb device happen to be a corsair branded keyboard?
I found a new z690 lga 1700, new rog strix gaming motherboard lga 1200, i9 10850k, and rtx 3060 ti at my friend's PC recycling warehouse for Free on Christmas Eve what a Merry Christ-mas to me 😁😁
90% of the stuff I find works! I build (13) i7 gaming PCs Free and sell cheap you can even make payments zero interest 👍
Me to man I found 3090ti and i7 12700k at university pc recycling spot !!!!
@@xTurtleOW Nice! Friend getting gaming pallet some time this month hope I score again 🤞
I'm finally doing a new build with 13900k, and I decided to buy the hero z690. seems great, and also isn't 700 dollars.
Interesting however I'm still somewhat curious. You're comparing 2 Hero boards which are pretty much top of the line Asus. What might be the difference if we compare 690 vs 790 boards with DDR4? Hero boards are not even available for DDR4. I'm in the process of building a 13th gen system but I skipped 12th gen so my latest Intel is a Z590 board. Thinking of keeping it more budget oriented using DDR4 vs DDR5. This will replace my current gaming rig which is a Z490/i9-10850k.
DDR5 is one of the benefits of the platform. DDR5 is more than just raw mhz in terms of speed increases. Prices have come down a lot. I would say in reality, it's hard to say anything faster than ddr5 6000mhz has a tangible benefit. If you live near a microcenter, you could go the am5 route and get a free set of 32gb ddr5 6000 with any ryzen cpu 7000 series purchase. As for the ddr4 on 13900k your not going to see any differences either.
It all depends on what kind of PC user you are...if you're comfortable in the bios and understand memory tuning, then 13th gen DDR4 is a banger that keeps up with all but the absolute best DDR5 in gaming. If you're a default/stock/XMP performance only user, then I would just get any decent DDR5 board with at least 6400c32 DDR5.
What bios were u running on the Z690 hero?
I have a Gigabyte Aorus E-Atx Z690 Xtreme and my Ram is The Corsair Dominator Platinum 5200MHz. Will my Ram or SSD get fried?
From what I understand is that the Z790 chipset DDR5 XMP (is not for overclocking your CPU, but overclocking your RAM) supposed to run your DDR5 at a higher MHz speed. Not to say that the Z 690 can't get higher DDR5 speeds than what's specified but the Z790 can reach higher speeds (for example 7800+ MHz) easier than the Z690 chipset if it can reach those speeds is what the difference is between both motherboards.
The bottom line is that the Z790 does have better PCI Express lane configurations, extra USB 3.2 ports, and higher DDR5 memory clock speeds and everything else should preform about the same.
Your cpu imc will determine how far your memory can go. While improvements have been made on “some” z790 boards for memory overclocking. It really comes down to the cpu. The benefits of the z790 chipset often aren’t fully taken advantage of by lower to mid range boards and even some high end boards. If you check hwbot ram overlock you will see most of the records are also still z690 boards if not the z790 apex which is probably the top board atm for oc
@@JCustom thanks for the response. I'm sure with up coming BIOs for many boards, they all will eventually do better. Yes the boards with only 2 ram dims do better over clocking. I only wish the APEX came in black.
I have the ROG Maximus HERO coming in next week. Hopefully it's a great board.
very good. thank you.
Would have helped the viewing experience if you put a small piece of tape at the bottom of the table so you knew what board you were pointing at. Lost count of how many times you said 790 while pointing at 690 and vice-versa. Just as an idea for future videos
Damn! i ran out and bought the Z790 because the word was we were leaving up to 30% perfomance on the table running a 13th gen on a Z690. I guess i'll start making another PC with the Z690 as a back up.
I am about to get a 13900K soon and I am on a Z690 ddr4. I've updated tp the latest intelME and do I need to rerun that update with the new processor?
You have to check your mobo support page.
How do i update my bios (asus rog strix z690-e) to use an i9 14900k without having a 12th gen cpu installed?
bios flashback www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1038568/
Right on time, as I’m looking for good deals on z690 and was wondering how is 13 series intel chips work on it.
Where TPM header on Z790? And why was it removed?
that is a good question. I will see if i can find out
@@JCustom In the technical documentation for the 790, there is no item about the TPM module, and the place where it stood in the 690 is now an unknown 10-pin connector, moreover, on both sides to the left and right of the battery, which is not indicated in the manual and on the motherboard itself.
Please let me know if it supports 8000MHz ddr5 (theorerically it doesn't)
Completely unrelated, but my brother has a Asus ROG B550-F (Wi-Fi) with a Ryzen 5 5600 and in the BIOS he's getting extremely massive lag spikes, like for every 1-2 seconds of normal use he's getting like a full second of lag.
You wouldn't happen to know what the issue is, would you?
Is it only in the bios? Sounds like it would be outside of the bios as well. If so, sounds like a hardware problem.
I had that a few weeks ago. Asus strix x570-pro gaming, 5950x. Update the bios, it went away.
*edit: it was a **windows** update, not a bios update. I did update my bios, but that did not fix it. Maybe the Microsoft engineers broke something before the holidays, and just got it fixed. Hopefully your problem is also resolved, it sucked!
What sp is your 13900k? i am geting 955 single in cpuz and 2255 in r23 single, 40450 multi in r23. if i enable tvb i am seeing all cores boost to 6ghz and getting 980 single in cpuz and 2342 single in r23. SP99 on a crappy z690-e strix with a liquid freezer 240 aio so nothing special, temps don't exceed 83c Perhaps you have a couple background apps running that are costing you some points. i had a z690 kingpin i just returned it. The bios support for 13th gen is horrible, there is no power limits you can adjust and tvb does not work correctly. At stock the same chip was pulling 370watts with a r23 score of 39000 and hitting 89c. On this z690-e strix this chip does 40450 with the stock pl limit set at 253 and holds all the cores at 5.5 without throttling. Verified with a external power meter and hwinfo64. The evga forums are full of people complaining about issues with 13th gen on the z690 dark. The only advantage i saw was that i could run my 7200 gskill kit at 7400 on the stock xmp with 1.425v but the reduced multi core, much lower single core and insane power consumption drove me back to asus and i hate asus boards to be honest.
Have to check. The one I used for this video is not the one I have in my primary 13900k build.
Thank you!
ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero supported 14th gen ?
Yes. All z690 support 14th gen. 14th gen is pretty much 13th gen with a box change. Minus the 14700k which got more ecores
I must have a golden IMC on my 12900KF as it on a Z690 Hero could boot my 7800 XMP kit. I just tried it for the lulz as I got it to bench on Z790 but just wanted to see what would happen.
Yeah. It’s pretty good if you can xmp that speed on 12th gen. While manual tuning can result those speeds as well it still requires a very strong imc
You are extremely lucky 6600 wouldn't run on my 12900ks...
"did it for the lulz".. No u didn't
I have the z790 hero and a 13900k , if i use 128 gb of ddr5 g skills cl30 6000mt’s i crash , so far for 3 days I’m fine if i remove the sticks , I’m super bummed about this as i looked for this board because of all the actual x16 slots with true power
You would need a super golden imc for that to work.
So now my question is. I have an i9 12900k in an Aorus Master Z690. I recently won an i9 13900k. Would it be beneficial for me to install the 13900k or just leave it with the 12900k.
Depends what your doing. If your just gaming then probably not.
@@JCustom yeah just gaming is all. Need to upgrade my GPU. Its a 2080 Super..
What about memory OC?
that's dependent on cpu. You may have better odds at the extreme oc levels on boards with shorter memory traces like the apex, else wise a prime vs a hero are going to have the same oc chances.
Can I run Intel core i9 14th gen on z690? Thank you !🙏🏻
Yes absolutely
How is the ddr5 on the z690? Is it stable at 6400mhz 2x16gb
It’s more dependent on your CPU. The motherboard is not going to matter much until you’re looking at 8k and up and even then really only coming into play at extreme speeds like 9-10k
@@JCustom yea but im wondering if that speed is stable on a z690 some ppl report crashes and not very stable . i do want that speed but thats the max oc on those z690 boards maybe i can droop to 6000mhz
@@guilladogui8259 my 6600mhz Corsair dominator not performed well on z690 formula, had to always drop the speeds to 6400 and bump up the voltage. Tried many different ram sticks, RMA'd motherboard and nothing worked. Upgraded to 790 formula and suddenly my 6600mhz RAM works well at 7000mhz with no errors in memtest. From my experience Z690's were the first motherboards to introduce ddr5 so likely stability was still an issue.
I’m running z690 hero and 13900k with 64 g of Corsair vengeance ram 1000 watt Asus power supply and Asus ryuin 3 cooler seems like it’s not enough
7:42 my 12900K with Asus ROG Strix Z690-e gaming wifi board and Trident z5 32gb (16x2) ddr5 6400mhz with xmp enabled will run consistently at 6200 maximum. I get bsod's out the ass at 6400
My 13900k BSOD issue is basically every time i use the PC.
I've had Asus Motherboards for years and just recently upgraded to the Z690 with a I9 13900k and G.Skillz 6000mhz DDR5. I'm running windows 10 64bit and have seen nothing but system crash after system crash. The crashes became even worse after trying to upgrade to windows 11. So, I reinstalled Windows 10 thinking maybe windows had errors during installation, but I'm still crashing. All that being said I believe Asus has strained itself when it comes to updates for these boards because of the sheer number of boards they sell. They have to many boards and have done nothing to very little to update and correct issues in a timely manner. I'm so frustrated with ASUS. I'd like to move to another motherboard manufacturer but who? Everyone else is just as bad or worse in quality and even worse in Bios' firmware updates. I'm going through all this BS because Microsoft decided to force everyone to upgrade their systems in order to use Windows 11. I'm beginning to think my issues may be from the DDR5 I installed. It may not be compatible with my CPU as stated in the video above even though ASUS says it is. "So Damn Frustrating" Lots of time and money for a headache.
Gigabyte, Strix....plenty of boards out there for a 13900k.
It true what you tried out, but the new 790 chipset has a bunch of extra lanes for the m2 connections. This could make the difference.
For most folks no. Also, many of the lower end to mid end boards do not have these improvements that benefit from the additional pch lanes. This video was geared more to those who buy these products for desktop and gaming use, but I understand where you are coming from
@@JCustom This statemend, compared with the CPU that you show in the video doesn't match.... I mean only to say the truth. And Hero Boards are not exacly the cheapest boards awailable.
for the liquid to fan control does that only work in a custom cooling loop ?
Epic info !
I have the asus rog maximus z690 formula with i9 13900kf and a 4090fe and my cinebench score was 39484
Not updating the Intel ME driver is the entire reason the "fake news" about 13th gen losing performance on Z690 ever started. Lol.
Can you tell me about your opinion which one is stronger?
Define stronger? If you mean by better for most folks there is no difference.
"Most folks don't understand what XMP is, XMP is overclocking of the CPU"
Wrong. XMP is the boosting of your RAM speeds, not cpu. cheers
boosting the ram speed is overclocking your cpu imc (memory controller). This is why intel/amd voids your warranty when you enable xmp/docp/expo . It is the same reason why it may take multiple cpus to get one that will do a set speed of ram.
Temp wise my setup runs hotttttt
Meg Z690 ACE 8 layer pcb ftw @ 189$ walmart
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