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  • @bronsondixon4747
    @bronsondixon4747 9 месяцев назад +149

    Instructions unclear: bought z790 dark hero.

  • @Backtotheviews
    @Backtotheviews 9 месяцев назад +31

    1000 percent people need to contact Asus and all other companies when this stuff happens. For the greater good!

  • @tag89
    @tag89 6 месяцев назад +8

    Appreciate that the intent of this video is from a RAM overclocker, noting its issues with meeting marketed RAM Clock speeds, but the inference I took from it was what sold me on the encore. In saying that, I have both the Apex encore and dark hero and I actually find the Dark Hero is better for several reasons, and so will most ethusiasts who don't really stuff around with RAM overclocking bar adjusting it to its respective XMP profile.
    For CPU overclocking, the Dark Hero is still up there as one of the best for consideraiton. Other factors that I consider making the Dark Hero better:
    - Much easier to build with: More Fan Headers, USB ports, Integrated Graphics out for if you have a non F model CPU, more space to work for cable routing which includes when utilising an AIO.
    - Much more conventional NVME drive lay out
    - No use of a DDR like module to use additional NVME drives - I (as well as a colleague who bought the same board) had the same issues - it would corrupt drives, be unweildly to work with.
    TDLR:
    - If you solely want to do ram overclocking, look at the Apex noting the above caveats.
    - For everyone else, the dark hero is better.

  • @Dad_of_2
    @Dad_of_2 9 месяцев назад +24

    Came for the content. Stayed for the kitty.

  • @GoFasterHD
    @GoFasterHD 9 месяцев назад +7

    On one had Asus is promoting the 8k mhz and on the other had you got Juan Jose Guerrero telling every it depends on CPU and board. This practice has been going on forever by all the MB manufactures, as soon as they set a world record, they want to promote the fastest speeds
    keep up with the good content.

  • @elvertmack5039
    @elvertmack5039 6 месяцев назад +5

    Just bought a z790 Hero from Amazon for 310 bucks. I know it can't hit 8000k...but for the price...it can hit 7200mhz....so im good with that, going on a 12900k.

    • @GONTE_YT
      @GONTE_YT 3 месяца назад +1

      Maximus Hero? I have MH with 13900k and crashes with 76000mhz. 7200 crashes as well. I have cod on 6400mhz stable

    • @bullsmashgamingliveogsmoke1737
      @bullsmashgamingliveogsmoke1737 25 дней назад

      @@GONTE_YT No use. 6400mhz is enough for any gaming , if your talking about other stuff then yeah saying it can go 8000mhz when someone wants do hardcore blender or heavy stuff which the app can use the rams speed for its full protentional

  • @kage860
    @kage860 9 месяцев назад +6

    I feel good about running my z790 tomahawk at “only” 7200 now, nice review

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад +1

      You might be able to do 7400. At least mine doesm

  • @SodaiGoku
    @SodaiGoku 9 месяцев назад +11

    How do you only have 27k subs? Your information is worthy of millions

    • @ur1man
      @ur1man 9 месяцев назад +2

      He curses and blasphemes all time…

    • @l0nestranger261
      @l0nestranger261 9 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed should have well more subscribers, keep up great content Jufes

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  9 месяцев назад +18

      I don’t do giveaways or buy botted accounts, subs don’t matter views do

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 9 месяцев назад +1

      It’s because he is not bought out and says what’s on his mind. He is not going to make greedy companies money by speaking facts and calling out other content creators BS.

    • @whocares0503
      @whocares0503 9 месяцев назад +1

      I bought a Nova and a 14900k. But I never had any intention of running 8000mhz ram. I just wanted a good MB for the money with decent features. It runs my current Corsair Dominator Platinum just fine. I hope, when you do test it, it WILL run 8k memory. Give me something to strive for! Your content is awesome!

  • @TheJamesKF
    @TheJamesKF 9 месяцев назад +10

    Looking forward to the Nova testing. I have one with a 12600k. Team Create A die 7200 32GB kit that was $109 USD on Amazon. So far I'm at 6200 1.25v 38 38 38 78 which is of course fairly loose but I want to see how far it will go at such a low voltage. Totally stable at least! I have yet to punch in the xmp 1.4v 34 42 42 84 settings on this CPU /mobo to see if it posts or is stable.

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад +7

      With 12600k you're at the mercy of the weaker 12th gen memory controller. Why not test what's the highest frequency you can manage first and then tune the timings.

    • @maximus3294
      @maximus3294 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Ben-ld1qi^ the method for any kind of oc is to step over the line, then step back bit by bit until stable. it results in less steps overall. loose initial timings are the way

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад

      @@maximus3294 That's exactly what I meant by finding max frequency and what was implied! Have had experience with the Apex, Hero and Extreme and other Z790 more budget 4-DIMMers. There are so many factors that come into play, it's a headache... Certain beta BIOSes on the Extreme allowed for 7800 fully stable with others didn't go over 7400 at all. Also need to watch out for high Auto voltages like when he had the screen freeze, that was due to high VCCSA on Auto.
      But yeah as a general rule when first testing the waters for highest frequency I always run loose primaries, leaving secondary and tertiary on Auto, but even then it's advised to take note at higher frequencies 8000+ sometime the motherboard sets tRDWR_sg/dg at 20 on Auto when it needs ~22 to pass.
      On the non refresh Hero, it needed IVR TX (known as CPU VDDQ on other boards) to be equal or higher as DRAM VDD for things to work, for even 7200 be stable. Every motherboard as its own niche. I don't know about any niches the new Dark Hero might have but I'm sure Jufes is experienced enough to figure things out for himself. But with that said, I wouldn't be surprised if fellow overclockers on overclock(.)net will probably post their stable 7800 overclocks on the Dark Hero soon, albeit it might take a bios mod or future BIOS revisions to do so.
      On MSI Z790 Tomahawk, while advertised as 7200, it surprisingly managed 7400 stable across all CPUs that I've tested. A few other Tomahawk owners also reported 7400 on A-Die.
      With all that said, I feel like that DDR5 marketing both for the boards and the XMP its sold at are very difficult for the average user that simply wants to buy something, run XMP on it without have to manually tune anything.

    • @gtijason7853
      @gtijason7853 9 месяцев назад +3

      So far the Nova is the only 4 dimm board I've used that does 8000 stable, 8200 fully benchable and 8400 makes it into windows and passes less mem intensive tests

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад

      @@gtijason7853 very impressive, this on 2x16 or 2x24? if

  • @joshyddog2054
    @joshyddog2054 9 месяцев назад +10

    You save me money man! I return it that day when I comment. I should of waited until you did your review.

  • @green4191
    @green4191 9 месяцев назад +5

    4 ram slots haha no fuc$en way it’s doing 8,000. Although I bet they managed to somehow get it to work one time for a very short period of time so that they could say it’ll do 8,000. Or maybe not I don’t know if they need to backup claims or they can just say whatever they want. I can get 8000 no problem but on an EVGA Dark Kingpin 790 that’s actually made for that.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 9 месяцев назад +1

      It will get 7600mhz with great tunning and if your lucky 7800mhz.

  • @tuncaycalan1125
    @tuncaycalan1125 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thank good we have this guy. Jufes i have the same problem with my Z790-E u know , it can’t go above 7200. With or withouth XMP. So know i will take your word and RMA it! I will wait until you drop a video about Z790-Nova and swap it with it or another motherboard you recommend . I have 7800 g skill sticks with 13900k.

    • @FirstLast-ge4yd
      @FirstLast-ge4yd 9 месяцев назад

      exactly what memory do you have?

    • @tuncaycalan1125
      @tuncaycalan1125 9 месяцев назад

      @@FirstLast-ge4yd G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-7800 SL C36 DC - 32GB

    • @tuncaycalan1125
      @tuncaycalan1125 9 месяцев назад

      I have tried with 32 gb 7800mhz Team Group also, still same problem

  • @mason9119
    @mason9119 9 месяцев назад +1

    thats why i love my z790 white apex motherboard , my gskill ddr5 2x24GB 8000 Mhz running at 8200 Mhz rock solid at stock voltages (1.35v) 🤟😁🤟

    • @ionelroza8711
      @ionelroza8711 9 месяцев назад

      it just boots at 8200 so its stable or you've run some stress test like Karhu for 24h and you have no errors?

  • @fhpchris
    @fhpchris 9 месяцев назад +4

    I can run 7200 stable on my 12900k and Z690 hero. I got a z790 dark hero to try after my first apex was DOA and it isn't even stable at 7200 with a sp107 14900k at 7200 with a kit that does 8000 on the x670 gene.

    • @revio000
      @revio000 8 месяцев назад

      Tell me about it, mines barely stable at 7200mhz

  • @crazyelf1
    @crazyelf1 9 месяцев назад +4

    What motherboards and brands do you recommend for AMD and Intel? I'm going to go to MSI, but in my case, AMD doesn't go to DDR5 8000 on Zen 4.
    The folks who want fast RAM should stick with 2 slot motherboards.
    It seems that Asus has gone downhill over the past few years.

  • @BinhBoi0115
    @BinhBoi0115 9 месяцев назад +6

    can’t wait to see Jufes push the newer Asrock Z790 boards🤞🏼

  • @JodyBruchon
    @JodyBruchon 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was sent here by someone in my Telegram chat. I feel your pain so much. I'm sick of these manufacturers screwing around like this.

  • @mylittlepwny3447
    @mylittlepwny3447 9 месяцев назад +6

    4 dimm DDR5 boards should be ignored. Either buy a "cheap" DDR4 board, OR spend the money to get a high end 2 dimm boards like the Apex or Tachyon.

  • @TheRealLink
    @TheRealLink 23 дня назад

    To be fair to your video which I found randomly, I too couldn't get my RAM (DDR5 Corsair Titanium 6800) to load either XMP so configured it manually - but that seems to be a known issue on the 4-DIMM configuration with the Intel memory controller as some of the blame I'd imagine. Also needing 192 GB for rendering use so I know I wasn't going to be winning any speed records. Very stable board at 5600 though.

  • @Ravenx217
    @Ravenx217 9 месяцев назад +9

    that shit is $700? LMAO
    I got the Asus Z790 Formula for $750 but at least it's white 💀

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 9 месяцев назад +1

      Same lmao

    • @sv0g391
      @sv0g391 9 месяцев назад +1

      What ram are you using??

    • @Ravenx217
      @Ravenx217 9 месяцев назад

      @@sv0g391 Corsair Dominator Titanium 2x24GB (48GB) @7200MT/s

  • @FrameChasers
    @FrameChasers  9 месяцев назад +11

    oops screwed up pop up, oh well. Also first

  • @erickp.2046
    @erickp.2046 6 месяцев назад +3

    i just searched this product, clicked on this video. got my answer in 46 seconds. Never seen you before. but the hair cut just told me to trust it. thank you.

  • @agmk135
    @agmk135 9 месяцев назад +2

    I can’t hear a thing he’s saying. I’m just analyzing the cat images on his shirt.
    J/k. Thank you for pointing these things out to us. I appreciate all the videos!

  • @abelgutierrez3603
    @abelgutierrez3603 9 месяцев назад +6

    Curious to see what the Nova can do. That board is being pushed hard everywhere. Just need another budget option, the Z790i Edge is great for 7600-7800 no stress memory OCs. But they look hilarious in bigger cases.

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 9 месяцев назад +4

      MSI should have released Z790 Unify-X. I was really hoping they would.

    • @abelgutierrez3603
      @abelgutierrez3603 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@jjlw2378completely agree

    • @BinhBoi0115
      @BinhBoi0115 9 месяцев назад

      currently waiting for my Nova to come in next week. pairing it with a 14900k and 24gb memory should be interesting to work with. hope Jufes can test the board out too

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 9 месяцев назад +1

    This sounds similar to vehicle window stickers. The sticker tells you what MPG you can expect, city and road driving. Then, it tells you that your MPG may vary. ASUS tells you the highest memory speed this MB supports. They should, like the MPG car sticker, tell you that your memory speed may vary. If you believe that ASUS has tested every memory module on their GVL on this MB, I have some lovely oceanfront property in Kansas I'd like to sell you.

  • @UaE0BoSS1
    @UaE0BoSS1 9 месяцев назад +5

    The NOVA that I got would never get to 8000 XMP stable at all. Had to reduce it to 7800 to get it stable. Curious what your experience would be like.

    • @user-cm9cd2mr1y
      @user-cm9cd2mr1y 9 месяцев назад

      What CPU? And what timings?

    • @UaE0BoSS1
      @UaE0BoSS1 9 месяцев назад

      @@user-cm9cd2mr1y 14900K. 34-45-45-34 and max trefi.
      EDIT: I'm using GSKILL 7600C36 32GB Kit and TeamGroup T Force Xtreem 8000MHz 48GB. Both of them max out at 7800MHz no matter what I change. Reason I got the 48GBs from TG is I plan to build a new ITX system so I upgraded my main RAM to TG.

  • @rogerstallone5857
    @rogerstallone5857 9 месяцев назад +1

    Duh it's got the 4 DIMM slots. I was shocked when this board came out more expensive than the Apex Encore. SO I got the Encore and run 8000 no problem

  • @Nore_258
    @Nore_258 8 месяцев назад +1

    I hate that QVL lists exist and aren't accurate. I do love seeing kitty going for a walk, always nice to see.

  • @DaRone1981
    @DaRone1981 9 месяцев назад +7

    I’m gonna wait on the new Tachyon

  • @Chris-zf2xk
    @Chris-zf2xk 7 месяцев назад

    I have no issues with this board what so ever. Been rocking 4 and 2 dimm XMP settings with no issues. This board at least for the 4 dimm folks provides the best stability so far that I have seen.

  • @georgem.6136
    @georgem.6136 9 месяцев назад +4

    Can’t wait to see the Asrock put to the test lol, Asus I knew that 8000 wasn’t happening lol

  • @eddieblanquiz2542
    @eddieblanquiz2542 5 месяцев назад

    Dude. I had a SHIT experience recently with their ProArt Z70 mobo. Two boards that would not post. RMA'd it twice. And TWICE they said they found no issues. Which was horse shit. I was glad to be able to return it. Thanks for this vid. I WAS looking at this MOBO as a alternative. But I think I'm done with Asus moving forward.

  • @vpryt18
    @vpryt18 2 месяца назад +1

    looking at his hair, I think I'm gonna buy that board.

  • @robertlewis8608
    @robertlewis8608 6 месяцев назад

    If you can talk to an ASUS motherboard Engineer, the Maximus Hero, The Dark Hero, and the Formula all share a poor memory lead layout to make room for everything else on the board.
    If you want a board that will actually run faster ram on the QVL list 7200-8000mhz you need to buy the Rog Strix Z790-E 7200mhz cl34 fastest I have seen is 7600-7800 G.Skill kits but that was on a diamond lottery 13900ks+hand picked G.Skill kits, APEX/APEX Encore. The Maximus hero/Dark Hero, Extreme and Formula are super dependent on the IMC quality since their memory lead layouts well are abysmal.

  • @kyojon
    @kyojon 9 месяцев назад +1

    That's crazy since I bought a Z790-E on 13th gen release (I'm dumb and should have waited for reviews and 2 DIMM mobos) and I'm running 7467 cl34.

  • @joshfredr7846
    @joshfredr7846 9 месяцев назад +4

    Hi,
    Love your videos - straight and to the point.
    I'm on the verge of buying an apex encore... I'm really keen on knowing what do you think of it, and is it a wise choice.
    I'm coming from a very very bad experience with the gigabyte aorus master z790.
    Thank you for reply.

    • @madclone84
      @madclone84 Месяц назад

      Get a dark hero and make your life easier

  • @zgmurph
    @zgmurph 9 месяцев назад +4

    Damn that is impressive that they can get away with ripping people off this hard.

  • @morphes
    @morphes 9 месяцев назад +3

    my z690 runs 7000 with minimal tweaks, 200 more mhz for $700 sheesh

    • @onehours
      @onehours 9 месяцев назад

      What board and what minimal tweaking volts you did?

  • @kachekbitsushkin8405
    @kachekbitsushkin8405 7 месяцев назад +1

    my mai z790 tomahawk still raises the frequency to 7600 and 7400 stably, it is rightly said that it is a scam

  • @AustnTok
    @AustnTok 8 месяцев назад +2

    So I have the New ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi 2. (the 14th gen ready model that recently released) Its the top of the line Z790 ROG Strix model and It's advertised to run DDR5 at 8000MHz +. It ran fine at 7200mhz and has been for over a month now, so I bought a very expensive G.Skill 8000mhz 2x24gb kit. XMP 1 would boot just fine, but would always blue screen after a couple minutes. XMP 2 didn't blue screen but it was EXTREMELY unstable. Like, bad. I bumped up the voltage and got it to pass memtest. It was stable for awhile and then it suddenly wasn't. Very frustrating considering it was a $500 USD motherboard

  • @ZackSNetwork
    @ZackSNetwork 9 месяцев назад +1

    I bought the Asus Z790 Maximus Formula because it matched my all white aesthetics. I’m not a super overclocker and it has everything I need for a high end setup. Thanks for the video though dude your awesome.

    • @sv0g391
      @sv0g391 9 месяцев назад

      1) what ram speed are you using?
      2) how is the 5g LAN?
      3) if you are not using liquid on it, how hot does the VRM get?
      Cheers

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 9 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@sv0g391I have 96gbs of DDR5 ram it’s Corsair Dominator Titanium 48gbs x2 at 6600mhz base. I overclocked the ram to 7200mhz and this is because I’m still an amateur at overclocking it’s stable though. I use the Wi-Fi 7. The VRM is excellent you can liquid cool if you want however if you don’t it’s very cool and over engineered really.

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 5 месяцев назад

    I actually regret buying the Apex Encore. I am gonna sell it and buy either the Dark Hero or Tachyon X. Integrated Graphics, Intel Quick Sync, and Thunderbolt 4. Too many features are nixed on the Encore for overclocking.

  • @R32639
    @R32639 Месяц назад +1

    why do people who have no idea buy motherboards for $700 ???? That is the actual problem

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great testing. I've done QVL 12700KF and 12900KF, not really impressed on Z690, did 3 DDR5 builds on 12th and once 14th released well it honestly feels like a money pit. Asus Z690 was also not great though maybe it is the controller, I could drop a 14th gen chip in (did BIOS updates) but idk, sometimes it is better to wait or something. My B760M wasn't much better for my media one.

  • @xzeusky9390
    @xzeusky9390 9 месяцев назад +1

    Please do a review on the AORUS Z790 Master. I just got this board and have had nothing but issues with it and it's a nut hair shy of a 600-dollar board. I can't even get 7200mhz running stably on this board. Just found your channel and your channel is full of great information.

  • @shadowarez1337
    @shadowarez1337 4 месяца назад

    I bought one as i missed out on the Asus Maximus z670e boards they released like 10 then discontinued it. I don't need 8000 mhz Ram iv got a nice kit of 7000mhz 64GB kit.

  • @user-hl7lx8ds7t
    @user-hl7lx8ds7t 3 месяца назад

    1 HAD PROBLEMS WITH DDR 5 RAM WITH 4 32GB SO NOW I DO 2 GSKILL 32GB WITH MY ACE MOTHERBOARD AT 6600 NO MORE ASUS MOTHERBOARDS FOR ME

  • @elijahmant2855
    @elijahmant2855 4 месяца назад

    It is outrageous and rather deceitful. The other major concern is the PCI slots. 16X What and What, Less and Less? These motherboards are Expensive. Come on Asus, you do make good motherboards. Don't spoil it with these folly tricks! It is so right of you to call them out. Thanks for your informative and detailed review, Man.

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 9 месяцев назад

    It is really not only Asus, I have a GigaByte DDR5 that is supposed to handle 7600Mhz and that is fine. I also bought 4 x 16Gb and I had it working at the speed my RAM was sold at (6000Mhz) but the board froze, the OS blue screened, I send all the memory back and bought 2 x 32Gb, also 6000Mhz. I got Patriot memory and the darn thing has been rock solid since last night. I do not need to overclock it, 6000Mhz is fine by me, as long as it can run stable. QVL is just as much a scam as the 80+ Gold is on the PSU market. Rubber stamp it, nobody will care. I am still not sure if I am keeping this motherboard, Amazon has great return policies.

  • @larrymcfagerstrom9172
    @larrymcfagerstrom9172 4 месяца назад

    The very word 'ASUS' has become a curse word for me since their recent market practices, will definitely not buy anything from them ever again. I even feel bad for owning an ASUS laptop, i've had luck with it the G712L i7/2070s model though, it's been powered on literally 24/7 for almost 4 years, giving it really hard time running serves from it even poured beer on it and first time opened it 1 week ago for dust off because it was so stuffed with tobacco tar and dust the fans stopped spinning, compressed air didn't remove any of the dust i needed to use toothbrush to clean it. I know people with ASUS laptops who needed to send it many times to warranty because of issues i really don't get it how mine keeps working even when i literally keep raping the damn thing.

  • @tommyrottn
    @tommyrottn 9 месяцев назад +3

    I'm glad I waited for this review, was planning on getting this motherboard.

    • @elvertmack5039
      @elvertmack5039 9 месяцев назад

      Same here because it's on Amazon for like 350

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 9 месяцев назад

      @@elvertmack5039 thats the 690 hero, the one that had all the issues and if you buy one of them now, it may or may not have any of them - hard pass

  • @jwar2163
    @jwar2163 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video. I purchased the AMD 7950X3D and mated it to the X670E Crosshair Extreme with a Strix RTX 4090 OC. I have had nothing, but issues for six months. AMD is fighting me on RMA of the CPU and I am Waiting for a response from ASUS. The Crosshair Extreme is the most unstable MB I have ever owned I am not able to get the board to operate even at stock speed of the AMD 7950X3D. So unstable with the DDR5 . ASUS has about lost me as a return customer after dropping 6k for all components after custom building PC for myself and others I could never again recommend an ASUS Product. Was looking to go to the Z790 Dark Hero because I have the ASUS G701 and the Ryujin III RGB that is less than 6 months old. Looks like I am taking a huge loss will look at MSI but wary as I left MSI years ago due to failures on the MBs, The only thing to pass all testing is the Corsair DDR5 Dominator x2 by 32

  • @masskilla469
    @masskilla469 3 месяца назад

    I got 8000 16TB sticks 64TB working after I updated the Bios and changed the timmings. I also got it working using XMP

  • @hamslice839
    @hamslice839 9 месяцев назад +12

    Thank you jufes and the supporters.

  • @SpoiledBadgerMilk
    @SpoiledBadgerMilk 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just started a spat with you and actually hardcore overclocking.

  • @Unobserved07
    @Unobserved07 9 месяцев назад +2

    They're gonna need to release a half decent bios revision for that board that will properly set the default voltages. Probably too low imc voltage and too high system agent at default to stabilize anything over 7400. 7800 is the best I've ever done on the OG hero with a specific beta bios and about 2 weeks of fafoing and misery.

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing. Yeah I had the OG Hero and it has its own niche with voltages and requires certain BIOSes otherwise over 7200 doesn't always work.

    • @stevog893
      @stevog893 9 месяцев назад

      What about a binned MC that does 8800. Would that make up some difference?

    • @Unobserved07
      @Unobserved07 9 месяцев назад

      @@stevog893 in order to push speeds like that you're talking about winning the lotto on binned CPU/Ram kit/motherboard. All 3 have to be golden samples to achieve that and your still looking at pushing an ungodly amount of voltage. I also have no idea how good the scaling is on ddr5 beyond 8200. At some point there is always diminishing returns.
      Edit: You also have to be running a 1 dimm per channel board.

    • @barome7236
      @barome7236 9 месяцев назад

      @@Ben-ld1qi which bios do you use for the Hero ? here i can't do barely better than 6933 with 7600 DDR5

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад

      @@barome7236 I already sold it many months ago so I don't remember. The first Hero didn't even do 7200 y-cruncher VST stable. I then had the board replaced through warranty for another Hero. I also read Igor's Lab Z790 Hero review (google it) wherw he succeeds 7800 stable, and he mentions it's important to have IVR TX at least the same or higher as the DRAM VDD. This allowed me to achieve 7200 but I didn't manage higher. From what it seems the Hero version is very dependent on specific BIOS versions and doesn't easily do 7600+ on just about any revision.

  • @StephenKempGT4
    @StephenKempGT4 9 месяцев назад +1

    You did not get this video fast enough, lol. I am stuck with a Dark Hero and 8000MHz RAM. Fully in a custom loop, so a bit of a pain to rebuild. And my racing season starts in a week, so really I don't have time. Support ticket into ASUS. I can get 7400MHz working in MemTest86 Pro. But that locks up in Windows, so not sure how far I have to drop it.

    • @fhpchris
      @fhpchris 9 месяцев назад

      I’m in the same boat as you. I can almost get 7400 stable but I have to use the perfect voltages. I gave up and just used my 96gb 6400 kit. Even 7200 throws errors at the default voltages for me in memtest 86 😂.

    • @StephenKempGT4
      @StephenKempGT4 9 месяцев назад

      @@fhpchris I gave up on the Dark Hero. Asus Support just said to RMA the RAM. I and returning the Dark Hero as it is defective all mem errors are for the DIMM in B2 slot, even when modules are swapped. Tearing down the full loop and installing a Asus Maximus Apex Encore motherboard people that have had better results with

  • @tech6294
    @tech6294 9 месяцев назад +1

    OMG that ending with the Nova... LMFAO 🤣 These brands need to get their shit together if they want to charge this much!

  • @Polyh3dron
    @Polyh3dron 9 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if Gordon from PC World will make a video saying the Z790 Dark Hero is Not A Scam lmaoooo

  • @theodanielwollff
    @theodanielwollff 9 месяцев назад

    The QVL lists are real but with a catch. They are done with pre-binned ES CPUs. 100s of CPU to find one that can do 8000 on 4-slot. Its possible, but basically you need a 8400 IMC (2-slot) for 8000 4-slot to work. The motherboard itself "can" do it, under the right circumstances, but not the average joe for sure. You also did XMP1, which ignores the SPD data besides the primaries in favor of better "ASUS" values. Basically a mini OC applied to the ram on top of the XMP profile. You want to always use XMP2

  • @NeoRizer
    @NeoRizer 7 месяцев назад +3

    What board would you recommend that's kind of similar to this one?

  • @rgray99c
    @rgray99c Месяц назад

    You think thats bad, i got a 14900k and had to downclock it to 5000 on P-Cores just to keep it stable! Ram wont go any higher than 4000.

  • @DWSPRODUCTIONS
    @DWSPRODUCTIONS 9 месяцев назад +2

    Gigabyte is advertising 8266 on all their new 4 dimmers.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  9 месяцев назад +7

      Il get to them don’t worry

    • @DWSPRODUCTIONS
      @DWSPRODUCTIONS 9 месяцев назад

      @@FrameChasers What a boss!

  • @vh9network
    @vh9network 9 месяцев назад

    for Intel, I'm still rocking my MSI Z690-A Pro DDR4 and tuned i5-12600K, it runs good in single thread like a i9-12900K.
    I see no need to upgrade this. 😎

  • @dab7963
    @dab7963 Месяц назад

    How much MHz is Z790 Max RAM?
    7200 MHz
    Four DDR5 Dual-Channel RAM slots allow you to install up to 128GB of memory with speeds up to 7200 MHz when overclocked, providing you with increased multitasking and rendering capabilities

  • @karisu1559
    @karisu1559 8 месяцев назад

    Can confirm memory issues with this board. Actually just ordered another kit of differemt ram to see if that works. CMH64GX5M2B6400C32 from Corsair does not work and locks at 4800, and when xmp is on I get the same blue screen he does or a Red Warning message that the bios has been tampered with. Even at 4800 with this kit, inside windows it's constant crashes and access violations.

  • @Jhood2Active
    @Jhood2Active 4 месяца назад

    Mine works perfectly fine and I love it

  • @TheBlueWanderer2000
    @TheBlueWanderer2000 9 месяцев назад

    TLDR: If you are willing to waste money on this motherboard, you might as well buy DDR5-7200 RAM kits for it.
    Edit: DIMM Flex can also work with DDR5-7200 RAM kits as well.

  • @arjanvink9361
    @arjanvink9361 9 месяцев назад

    4:07 'you can't just take my word for it'.....
    Well Jufes, i do.
    And a lot of people with me i believe.

  • @lostmic
    @lostmic 4 месяца назад +1

    So what gaming board, professional video and audio do you suggest in Asus line up?

  • @thomasfredrickson2911
    @thomasfredrickson2911 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks you answered all my questions. i just bought this board w/ 7200 kingston renagade

  • @frantic3223
    @frantic3223 9 месяцев назад +3

    jufus posted a new video 🗣️🗣️🗣️🙏🏼

  • @joshuablank6494
    @joshuablank6494 3 месяца назад +2

    Show us where the motherboard touched you... 8000 has been proven.... by me... i hit 8000... so from my perspective you just... A) don't know what you're doing or B) You intentionally skewed the results

  • @skorpers
    @skorpers 9 месяцев назад +7

    I agree already.

  • @AB-IS-ME
    @AB-IS-ME 9 месяцев назад +1

    Was just about to execute on this mobo! Vid was just in time for me, thanks Jufes!!

  • @6r3ys0n
    @6r3ys0n 9 месяцев назад

    I shared this on an official Asus run enthusiast page on facebook edit: unfortunately an admin removed it almost immediately lol. All I said was here is a post to help prevent you from being misled.

  • @jstathellis
    @jstathellis 9 месяцев назад

    Love your videos, anything on gigabyte z790, I remember in one video you were pleasantly surprised at how easy gigabyte was.

  • @69IKON69
    @69IKON69 9 месяцев назад +1

    Knew this was about ddr5 before I even clicked

  • @reeemooo
    @reeemooo 9 месяцев назад

    Oh man i am so glad i picked apex encore based on your video ! I am so happy that i didn’t pick dark hero thanks bro

  • @tonep3168
    @tonep3168 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for telling it as it is Jufes!

  • @alexmayer8943
    @alexmayer8943 3 месяца назад

    If you are right then i agree consumers need to step up.

  • @ShanDysigns
    @ShanDysigns 7 месяцев назад

    Maybe I'm missing something, but there is only one reference to 8 GT/s that I remember coming across, and I don't remember thinking that I would be able to hit those speeds myself. I read it as if there have been tests that reached those speeds (meaning those speeds are possible - likely only in a lab-type, not for commercial environment at the moment. I don't feel mislead at all. I've never even seen any ddr5 kits to advertise that speed, so how is this a misleading thing? Maybe people aren't reading everything and then feel cheated when Asus didn't imply it (at least from what I've read), and I've read quite a bit about this board, and I certainly wasn't expecting those speeds, so.. ?

  • @dontsupportrats4089
    @dontsupportrats4089 9 месяцев назад

    UM. HERE IS SOME ADVICE: Don't buy Asus mb's. Their cheap boards are the cheapest, and their higher end boards are overpriced for what you get. Also don't buy boards with 4 Ram slots if you are building a gaming pc regardless of price. Great video for a random RUclips suggestion, loved it.

  • @joezegers
    @joezegers Месяц назад

    And all you have against it is memory capacity? Dude, we’re totally buying it.

  • @KenzieNakamura
    @KenzieNakamura 9 месяцев назад +2

    I like your t-shirt motive and the painting :)

  • @Serandi1987
    @Serandi1987 9 месяцев назад

    What!? 😅
    My AM4 X570 Dark Hero was only 270€ in 2022 and the 5800X3D run with 4000Mhz CL15 on it without issues! And I've only payed 750€ for the board, CPU and RAM. I'd never be able to get a similar level AM5 system!

  • @steveramundo4946
    @steveramundo4946 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks So much man.... I was actually going to use this on my next build. It's one thing to overpay for something you want, such crap to be lied to and robbed!

  • @headstronginc1720
    @headstronginc1720 3 месяца назад

    also update your using win10 win 11 works fine

  • @kaanaslan_tr
    @kaanaslan_tr 9 месяцев назад

    I have this mb, purchased last week. I’m satisfied so far.

    • @Stringbean421
      @Stringbean421 9 месяцев назад

      Me too. Just finished my new build with this Motherboard. Even managed to run 64 Gigs (4 sticks) of RAM XMP up to 7200MHZ.

    • @kaanaslan_tr
      @kaanaslan_tr 9 месяцев назад

      @@Stringbean421 I’m now testing different overclock profiles but I’m not bothering with the Rams. I use XMP II profile.

  • @valentin3186
    @valentin3186 9 месяцев назад +1

    Return that garb. Barely holding 7200 is a joke. The idea of qvl is being stable on plugnplay not what 1% cpu and a solid oc background can do

  • @cheesymcspeedy1
    @cheesymcspeedy1 9 месяцев назад +1

    Oooooh, I can't wait for the Nova one! It just seems like a good board for the price and I hope it performs. That's all I even care about.

    • @UaE0BoSS1
      @UaE0BoSS1 9 месяцев назад +1

      I bought the NOVA and the max RAM I could get to is 7800 stable. I couldn’t get it stable at 8000 whatsoever.

    • @Ben-ld1qi
      @Ben-ld1qi 9 месяцев назад

      @@UaE0BoSS1 That sounds about right. I wonder if the MSI refresh Tomahawk/Edge are capable of 8000 although I'd take the Nova over them.

  • @PorterB
    @PorterB 9 месяцев назад

    The Asrock Nova z790 is super popular right now cos it costs under $300 and claims 8000 Mhz ram support. Idiots on most tech forums keep recommending it even though only maybe 1 in 100 users can actually get 8000 DDR5 to work on them. I don't evven suspect its always the IMC, no one tests them in gear 4 to see if the motherboard can actually run 8000 or higher.
    And all the time I have to put up with 'wHy dO yOu sTiLl UsE dDr4 lOL Y u sO pO0r???'. Cos I got a 4400 G1 IMC and can't be bothered to fuck around with trying to 8000+ DDR5 to even work.
    Everyone jumping to the latest stuff still paying early adopter tax on DDR5 because of shitty IMCs and equally shitty Dimm slots.

  • @Ylightx1
    @Ylightx1 9 месяцев назад +3

    update the bios and intel me

    • @sv0g391
      @sv0g391 9 месяцев назад +1

      I asked him the same question above

  • @alriciab.p.7936
    @alriciab.p.7936 9 месяцев назад +1

    You just got a new subscriber for being no b.s. let's goooo

  • @Edward135i
    @Edward135i 6 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone spending that much on a motherboard is kind of dumb to begin with, what a huge waste of money

  • @theanglerfish
    @theanglerfish 9 месяцев назад

    i bought ASRock B760m PG Sonic WIFI they specified how fast it can go with how much mem. slots occupied so they write 7200* and * was 1 slot occupied dual channel was something around 6800 which...i wouldn´t use anyway as a creator 6600 was just safe bet but i tested it and worked just fine so ASRock is a safe choice i guess but also with Gigabyte i had really good experience but i have these boards only for AM4 but...3766MT/s cl14 but they advertised only 3600MT/s and probably i can go higher (Samsung B die btw) and also depends on CPU mem. controller so in short max advertised freq. is with only one mem. slot occupied but totally agree...is like buying 300hp car but really have 230

  • @Feyenoord010Rotterdam
    @Feyenoord010Rotterdam 2 месяца назад +1

    Can someone tell me which RAM i need for my setup? I got the Z790 Dark hero, i9 14900k and Asus strix 4090 oc.

    • @FrameChasers
      @FrameChasers  2 месяца назад +1

      Get the 7200 kit off my website

    • @Feyenoord010Rotterdam
      @Feyenoord010Rotterdam 2 месяца назад

      @@FrameChasers First of all tnx for responding! You mean the T-Force ones right? Does it matter if i take 4x16gb instead of 2x32gb?

  • @lukefilewalker9454
    @lukefilewalker9454 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for your hard work, looks like you’re running Windows 10? Wouldn’t Windows 11 scheduler work better with 14th gen P cores and. E cores? I know that wouldn’t make a difference with the ram issue, but still nobody should be buying a $700 mobo unless they were overcloking competitively. ASUS needs to do better.

  • @caioaquino5958
    @caioaquino5958 2 месяца назад

    Any suggestions as an alternative to this that has both Thunderbolt 4 slots and Wifi7?

  • @HarryClipzFilmz
    @HarryClipzFilmz 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you!!! I am new to the channel, and this would be my 2nd build ever i am fishing around to find a new mobo, i really wanted to get this board but as you have shown here that this board ain't it . What is a good board for doing animation/simulations inside Blender since i this board isn't any good?