In the video you inserted 2 RAM into DIMM slots A1 & B1 but in the manual and even in your video right after you inserted the RAM you zoom in on the board and it shows A2 & B2 with an arrow saying "First". Just a heads up for anyone else with this board, I do think it is odd, but Asus recommends A2 & B2 for the first 2 DIMM slots to be used for RAM.
Good review! Only a slight correction/addendum: During the storage segment, you talk about when M.2_1 is populated, it disables PCIEX16(G5)_2 and limits PCIEX16(G5)_1 to PCIe 4.0 8x. This is true, however, I think it's important to note and consider that M.2_2 also offers direct CPU lanes while not interfering with either of the PCIe slots. Obviously, you can't then fully utilize the benefits of a PCIe 5.0 NVMe, but considering that said SSDs are not widely commercially available to home consumers and that the everyday use performance improvements of PCIe 5.0 seem negligible, it changes my stance at least on the value of the board in the positive. TL:DR For optimal performance, just use the second M.2 slot from the top (the one under the first PCIe slot). You get the benefits of having direct CPU lanes for a SSD and the benefits of PCIe 4.0 16x for your GPU.
Just before anyone decides to purchase this board. FYI it WILL NOT do the advertised ddr5 8000. My first board came DOA. My second board is having audio issues (cracking and popping through my computer monitors), and I am now going on my third replacement in a month. Other than that it is feature packed and looks amazing.
Just in general I would say don’t go with Asus this generation with the whole drama going on with them. But damn do they make good looking boards probably the best on the market alongside those high end MSI ones
Wow you are the guy that I wish I would have talked to and watched before I bought this motherboard. I bought ram that wasn't on the qvl list at 192 gb. I also went out and bought a Gen 5 nvme. I only have a 3080 right now but I'm not sure if I should use the M. 2 slot that is gen5
does it only use half the lanes when you use a gen 5 ssd in the top slot or when you use the top slot at all no matter if you have a gen4 or gen5 ssd plugged into it ?
hey bro, I like your channel and just subscribed, BECAUSE YOU actually explained the ONE thing Ive been looking for on the z790 DH that im going to purchase. so thank you again for such a comprehensive review of this MB and i will be tuning in from now on!
@@LaurentschoiceHey man I'll second this, I was curious about that M.2 slot cutting the bandwidth of the PCIe x16 slot in half. Very glad you touched on it before I invested in a beefier SSD. Is this issue universal across the chipset or would switching to a different brand this generation help get the best out of both my SSD and all of my GPU's lanes in the future?
I'm having trouble enabling Gen 5 speeds on my m.2 slot one. My last BIOS was gigabyte and it was pretty easy to understand. This one is a little more tricky. Anyone have any tips for me
I’m looking 👀 at buy this motherboard. Trying to choose between. The *(Dark Hero, & The Formula) motherboard. Both offer the same thing. The Formula is a white motherboard. Plus some videos have discussed. That the water 💧 block is not from EQ. So to have you. Cover this motherboard is awesome 😎 hands down..
Top review, as usual Laurent, on a top motherboard. Never cease to be impressed by the detail in your reports presented in an enthusiastic and fun way. Thanks!
So I bought this board and plan to watercool it, does the EKWB really take up too much space like I see in the video to where the plate is removed completely?
Good morning, with this wonderful video, I want to ask you, which do you prefer, for approximately the same price, the Asus TUF 3090 OC, or the SAPPHIRE Toxic RX 6950 XT? ** I am also looking forward to reviewing the Asus x670e-a gaming wifi board, and reviewing the soon-to-be-released Aorus x670e pro x board.
How's this Motherboard for 8000Mhz DDR5 ? Planning on upgrading to this Motherboard along with 2 sets of F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK RAM (it's G.Skill Trident Z5). I wonder if it would require some manual tweaking for the voltage and if it would be stable for i9-14900KS.
My PC spec is Ryzen 5 5600, Rx6750xt, Corsair vengeance lpx 8gb 3200mhz, Corsair cv650, 500gb SSD, Asrock B550m steel legend. I watched games benchmark on RUclips video of 1080 all settings, which fsp was provided on RUclips video's benchmark sadly my PC give less than half fps of RUclips benchmark. What is problem in my new PC? Less than half fps really shit!
So I’m looking to build an PC and this motherboard is the one I want to use. I keep hearing bad things about this board and ROG boards in general. Which motherboard is best from ROG for 14700 chipset?
I just Bought the board main reason was the thunderbolt. I switched from amd over to intel for thunderbolt support with my Universal audio apollo's. the board looks amzing and is pretty heavy. i am happy I saw this video before I installed the m.2 ssd's i will not use the first slot now 😅. thnak you for the review
I'm still having issues with my board and PCIe connectivity.... Asus wants me to send the board back but I'm wondering why I cannot detect a network card in the G4 slot at the bottom.
@@Laurentschoice yeah I am trying to finish one last project. I was just wondering if there would be any other setting that would make the PCIE card not detectable. The G4 bottom lane has no settings other than speed. I also was having some issues with my m.2 speed prior. So I took a couple slots out and built a NAS. Now I need another 10 gig port for the NAS. Lol That's why I always trying to put network card in
Hi, nice review. Between this mb and Giga aorus master x - what would you pick? Aorus has better vrm, 10gb network, but pcie looks worse (2 pcie3 slot), also no tb4
Hey do you have to connect the second power connector to the dark hero? the one underneath the mainconectoer 6 way connector because I don't have it in and my cpu turns up without end in battlefield 2042 temperature fluctuations of 70 - 95 degrees with the game
I am having an issue that the Microphone has a loud pop both using the front panel and the rear mic-in input. Is anyone else having the same issue with this board?
Hey there :) That's the same PCIe bifurcation you LL find all ove the Z790 powered boards. Just not enough pcie 5 lanes to entertain a full 16 lane GPU export AND a x4 m.2 SSD . Obviously I tested this as well ;) Hope this helps .
We all know who the TRUE hero is for uploading great motherboard reviews on a boring Monday morning :p What a mobo though, way too overkill for me. My poor B550 one looks like an ultra budget board now 😅
Will a M.2 with a gpu, will both run at 5.0 speeds? Or does the M.2 downsize to 4.0 speed 😅nice a gpu is installed regardless of which M.2 slot I use? That was what I got from the manual, just would like someone to confirm I understood it correctly.
@@Laurentschoice sorry I think cause I’m dealing with my internet at the same time and so I am not registering something. I had the z790-E board and ASUS had me Rma it due to a code error. If I put the 3080 Ti in the top Gpu slot. And I use the slot above the Gpu, M.2_1 will that allow both to run on 8 lanes of bandwidth? Sorry if confusing you. Just trying to get both the gpu and the 2 TB M.2 to run the fastest.
Big downgrade in expansion department compared to last year Hero. I would like to say one step forward two steps back. Sadly, don't see the step forward. Wifi 7 maybe? A chance to spend my money on $1000 wifi 7 router and devices that will show up en masse when this platform is dead and intel has moved on. They reduced SATA from 6 to 4 and last year's 3 + 2 x4 nvme arrangement seems much better when sticking with 4.0 m.2 , due to x16/x8/x8 expansion slots (last slot bifurcates to x4 x4 with included m.2 card). This leaves main cpu lanes in x4 (4.0 m.2)/x16 (5.0) arrangement, or x4/x8/x8 alternatively for dual gpu for example. You would lose one m.2 4.0 if you want m.2 5.0 on expansion m.3 card, but this choice makes the older one way more versatile. These maximus boards and premium boards from others were supposed to bridge gap between general gamer consumer and workstation hefty 'buy in'. Sadly with every iteration they are inching closer and closer to general consumer level while still charging big premium over strix mid range. For what? Based on led's on vrm cover (not impressed btw) i suppose???? Your reviews are detailed and always fun to watch
Hmmm seems like u missed the thermal tests, the CPU benchmarking , the product comparison, the monoblock testing , the VRM analysis , The PCIe bifurcations table, the .... Wait .. did you watch any part of the video .... Or are you just blathering ? You'll get there ;) eventually
This shit not cost that much with 4 dimms and 8 layers lol. And 7800mhz is very hardly achievable compared to 2 dimm boards Basically same as 790-e but 300$ more expensive just for thunderbolt if I correct, screen and wi-fi 7. Same as simple Hero but with wi-fi 7 and still cost 150$ more. Asus is a joke
This computer is well worth it especially if you have 14th gen processors. If you don’t have a board of this quality, you’ll most likely have system issues with those chips.
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In the video you inserted 2 RAM into DIMM slots A1 & B1 but in the manual and even in your video right after you inserted the RAM you zoom in on the board and it shows A2 & B2 with an arrow saying "First". Just a heads up for anyone else with this board, I do think it is odd, but Asus recommends A2 & B2 for the first 2 DIMM slots to be used for RAM.
Shouldn't matter
Good review! Only a slight correction/addendum:
During the storage segment, you talk about when M.2_1 is populated, it disables PCIEX16(G5)_2 and limits PCIEX16(G5)_1 to PCIe 4.0 8x. This is true, however, I think it's important to note and consider that M.2_2 also offers direct CPU lanes while not interfering with either of the PCIe slots. Obviously, you can't then fully utilize the benefits of a PCIe 5.0 NVMe, but considering that said SSDs are not widely commercially available to home consumers and that the everyday use performance improvements of PCIe 5.0 seem negligible, it changes my stance at least on the value of the board in the positive.
TL:DR
For optimal performance, just use the second M.2 slot from the top (the one under the first PCIe slot). You get the benefits of having direct CPU lanes for a SSD and the benefits of PCIe 4.0 16x for your GPU.
Yeah, but NOT the benefits of the large heatsink.
@@gladosadoreeexactly!
Yes. Laurent is back! Have a good start into the new week and thank you for the review. I love me a new motherboard review.
I have been so waiting for your review on this mobo! As usual another outstanding job! Thanks man👌👌
Just before anyone decides to purchase this board. FYI it WILL NOT do the advertised ddr5 8000. My first board came DOA. My second board is having audio issues (cracking and popping through my computer monitors), and I am now going on my third replacement in a month. Other than that it is feature packed and looks amazing.
Who need all that speed
Just in general I would say don’t go with Asus this generation with the whole drama going on with them. But damn do they make good looking boards probably the best on the market alongside those high end MSI ones
Wow you are the guy that I wish I would have talked to and watched before I bought this motherboard. I bought ram that wasn't on the qvl list at 192 gb. I also went out and bought a Gen 5 nvme. I only have a 3080 right now but I'm not sure if I should use the M. 2 slot that is gen5
I love your accent and your jokes. I stumbled upon this when looking for reviews and did not expect it to be funny too!
does it only use half the lanes when you use a gen 5 ssd in the top slot or when you use the top slot at all no matter if you have a gen4 or gen5 ssd plugged into it ?
I have the same question. I’m going to use my.2 slicker 2 & 3 with my SSD’s and my 4090 as the top pcie
@@digitalQ33 chatgpt says this info is not true. Those lanes have dedicated bandwidths. Anyone to confirm they are shared?
hey bro, I like your channel and just subscribed, BECAUSE YOU actually explained the ONE thing Ive been looking for on the z790 DH that im going to purchase. so thank you again for such a comprehensive review of this MB and i will be tuning in from now on!
Welcome to the channel brother :::))
@@LaurentschoiceHey man I'll second this, I was curious about that M.2 slot cutting the bandwidth of the PCIe x16 slot in half. Very glad you touched on it before I invested in a beefier SSD. Is this issue universal across the chipset or would switching to a different brand this generation help get the best out of both my SSD and all of my GPU's lanes in the future?
If I insert a PCIe 5.0 speed M.2 SSD, will it occupy the bandwidth of the x16 PCIe 5.0 slot for the graphics card? What should I do?
Yes that is a question I also ask.
Could someone recommend a board where there is no such limitation. I want to use my SSD and GPU bandwidth at max.
BTW I asked chatgpt, and it insists that this is not true. SSD and PCI 5 slot has dedicated buses, it says...
My favorite motherboard reviewer back at it again. You are the best bro. Keep up the great work and stay safe.
Oh god ... I'm toying with the formula tonight..... And that can't be safe !
I'm having trouble enabling Gen 5 speeds on my m.2 slot one. My last BIOS was gigabyte and it was pretty easy to understand. This one is a little more tricky. Anyone have any tips for me
I’m looking 👀 at buy this motherboard. Trying to choose between. The *(Dark Hero, & The Formula) motherboard. Both offer the same thing. The Formula is a white motherboard. Plus some videos have discussed. That the water 💧 block is not from EQ. So to have you. Cover this motherboard is awesome 😎 hands down..
I'm starting the formula tomorrow!
Top review, as usual Laurent, on a top motherboard. Never cease to be impressed by the detail in your reports presented in an enthusiastic and fun way. Thanks!
Brian is back and in the HOUUUUUUUUUSE
@@Laurentschoice Never too far away from my fave reviewer ;-) I'm inexorably drawn back by your reviewing excellence! 🙂
@brianhoward9217 join the channel ?!!
I need the support of my top fans and sending a bunch of stuff on the channel this month for the members !
@@Laurentschoice I
Oh my god! This is the board that I just bought and brought home with me about 1 hour ago and now I'm seeing this video :)
Ahaha perfect timing !
I waited for this board to be in stocks for 3 weeks. Now I can build my system :) This was the only missing piece :)@@Laurentschoice
So I bought this board and plan to watercool it, does the EKWB really take up too much space like I see in the video to where the plate is removed completely?
Well it doesn't only cover the CPU . It also cools the Power stages and chokes. This is a monoblock . It's a pretty intense water cooling solution .
@@Laurentschoice does this mean I have to get rid of the screen that displays ROG?
@@Joe-jw9jy I would love an answer as well
Incidentally, your reviews are very good... I need to save a video of the ROG STRIXX670E-F Gaming Wifi, that is, the -E with some cuts jajajaj
Good morning, with this wonderful video, I want to ask you, which do you prefer, for approximately the same price, the Asus TUF 3090 OC, or the SAPPHIRE Toxic RX 6950 XT?
** I am also looking forward to reviewing the Asus x670e-a gaming wifi board, and reviewing the soon-to-be-released Aorus x670e pro x board.
3090 OC for some DLSS 2.0 YUMMINESS :)))))))
@@Laurentschoice Thanks for your response, I appreciate your efforts
Many peoples complain about the memory, not reaching 8000mhz. Is that true?
great review, actually prefer the screws than a plastic clip.
How's this Motherboard for 8000Mhz DDR5 ? Planning on upgrading to this Motherboard along with 2 sets of F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK RAM (it's G.Skill Trident Z5). I wonder if it would require some manual tweaking for the voltage and if it would be stable for i9-14900KS.
NOOOOOO THIS BOARD DOSNT SUPPORT 8000MHZ it says on website but dosnt
My PC spec is Ryzen 5 5600, Rx6750xt, Corsair vengeance lpx 8gb 3200mhz, Corsair cv650, 500gb SSD, Asrock B550m steel legend. I watched games benchmark on RUclips video of 1080 all settings, which fsp was provided on RUclips video's benchmark sadly my PC give less than half fps of RUclips benchmark. What is problem in my new PC? Less than half fps really shit!
The SSD..... MIGHT be the issue. Go m.2ssd
@@Laurentschoice it is m.2 SSD bro
What is the best ram I can buy for ROG MAXIMUS Z790 DARK HERO? (I don't know English, I would appreciate it if you could write the brand and model.)
So I’m looking to build an PC and this motherboard is the one I want to use. I keep hearing bad things about this board and ROG boards in general. Which motherboard is best from ROG for 14700 chipset?
I just Bought the board main reason was the thunderbolt. I switched from amd over to intel for thunderbolt support with my Universal audio apollo's. the board looks amzing and is pretty heavy. i am happy I saw this video before I installed the m.2 ssd's i will not use the first slot now 😅. thnak you for the review
I'm still having issues with my board and PCIe connectivity.... Asus wants me to send the board back but I'm wondering why I cannot detect a network card in the G4 slot at the bottom.
That could be a faulty tracing. Anyhow... Send it back
@@Laurentschoice yeah I am trying to finish one last project. I was just wondering if there would be any other setting that would make the PCIE card not detectable. The G4 bottom lane has no settings other than speed. I also was having some issues with my m.2 speed prior. So I took a couple slots out and built a NAS. Now I need another 10 gig port for the NAS. Lol That's why I always trying to put network card in
Hi, nice review. Between this mb and Giga aorus master x - what would you pick? Aorus has better vrm, 10gb network, but pcie looks worse (2 pcie3 slot), also no tb4
So reviewing the Master X right now. Will be published in 4 days
Pretty board but with zero upgrade potential it’s a tough sale to me.
Yeah... Last Gen CPU socket... Last year on the Chipset.... It's always difficult for manufacturers to make a sell
Hey do you have to connect the second power connector to the dark hero?
the one underneath the mainconectoer 6 way connector
because I don't have it in and my cpu turns up without end in battlefield 2042
temperature fluctuations of 70 - 95 degrees with the game
still rocking the maximus XIII hero, staying strong!
Hero 9 still cranks for me
@Laurent's Choice Please review MSI X670E ACE Motherboard.....!!!
Why is this channel so underrated? I literally buy mobos only after watching his reviews
U r pure love
So, even a PCI-e 4.0 SSD under that huge heatsink will already reduce yur GPU speed to x8? If so, that is extremely bad design.
So you’re saying if you want a gen 5 ssd which only is the m2.1 slot you can’t basically have a 4090?
Yes u can
@@Laurentschoice yeah but it cuts it down till 8&8 correct unless you use the gen 4slot how would that effect game performance?
@warfare2582 yeah but still it's equate to 16 @ pcie 4.0 . Which more bandwidth the 4090 can handle
I am having an issue that the Microphone has a loud pop both using the front panel and the rear mic-in input. Is anyone else having the same issue with this board?
I solved my issue. It seems to be a lose wire in the front panel HD Audio connector that was causing issues for me.
10:03 can you please provide a source for this info?
Are you sure M2 SSD bus lane and PCI 5 bus lane are shared?
Hey there :)
That's the same PCIe bifurcation you LL find all ove the Z790 powered boards.
Just not enough pcie 5 lanes to entertain a full 16 lane GPU export AND a x4 m.2 SSD .
Obviously I tested this as well ;)
Hope this helps .
Yes with manual is mentioned that
We all know who the TRUE hero is for uploading great motherboard reviews on a boring Monday morning :p
What a mobo though, way too overkill for me. My poor B550 one looks like an ultra budget board now 😅
Oooooh now that's a nice thing to say :)))))
DARK is in the houuuuuuuse!
Way out of my price range. Still great to watch to see potentially what features could go to the lower / mid range boards in the next generations.
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I got you... And that's all I need. ;)
@@Laurentschoice i.m your oldest subscriber from pakistan ❤️🇵🇰.. Keep Working.. I hope your channel will be huge in future..
Will a M.2 with a gpu, will both run at 5.0 speeds? Or does the M.2 downsize to 4.0 speed 😅nice a gpu is installed regardless of which M.2 slot I use? That was what I got from the manual, just would like someone to confirm I understood it correctly.
Yeah..if you used the m.2ssd in pcies 5 you cut by half the GPU bandwidth
@@Laurentschoice sorry I think cause I’m dealing with my internet at the same time and so I am not registering something. I had the z790-E board and ASUS had me Rma it due to a code error. If I put the 3080 Ti in the top Gpu slot. And I use the slot above the Gpu, M.2_1 will that allow both to run on 8 lanes of bandwidth? Sorry if confusing you. Just trying to get both the gpu and the 2 TB M.2 to run the fastest.
Which would you choose? The GB Elite X or this one?
Depending what is the focus of ur board. What CPU / GPU ???
@@Laurentschoice cpu- intel 14th gen i9, gpu- rtx 4070
The elite will do perfectly fine
@@LaurentschoiceThank you!
1st thanks , so no Mb right now that don't share bandwidth between pcie16 gen 5 and m.2 gen5 ?
Yes. Correct. :(
thanks @@Laurentschoice
What a seo of your video man 🎉
Why have you put your ram into 1 and 3 slots on 5:52?
To activate both channel 1 and 2 ( making sure they both operate).
The both are master dimms placement activating each channel.
I checked the manual and the second and fourth slot are the master dimms
I believe they did this to move the dimms farther from the CPU heat
Here we go again !! Todays motherboard's prices are not good for the health!
Specially the Maximus one... Lord ,!!!
Big downgrade in expansion department compared to last year Hero. I would like to say one step forward two steps back. Sadly, don't see the step forward. Wifi 7 maybe? A chance to spend my money on $1000 wifi 7 router and devices that will show up en masse when this platform is dead and intel has moved on.
They reduced SATA from 6 to 4 and last year's 3 + 2 x4 nvme arrangement seems much better when sticking with 4.0 m.2 , due to x16/x8/x8 expansion slots (last slot bifurcates to x4 x4 with included m.2 card). This leaves main cpu lanes in x4 (4.0 m.2)/x16 (5.0) arrangement, or x4/x8/x8 alternatively for dual gpu for example. You would lose one m.2 4.0 if you want m.2 5.0 on expansion m.3 card, but this choice makes the older one way more versatile.
These maximus boards and premium boards from others were supposed to bridge gap between general gamer consumer and workstation hefty 'buy in'. Sadly with every iteration they are inching closer and closer to general consumer level while still charging big premium over strix mid range. For what? Based on led's on vrm cover (not impressed btw) i suppose????
Your reviews are detailed and always fun to watch
Bonnie Tyler would buy this mobo!
Baba ... Napoli IN THE HOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!
Everyone take an instant and bow in reverence to the LC OG!
Breh is he french?
An editorial commentary is not a review. It's just blather.
Do actual reviews with product in hand with test results, or again, it is just blather.
Hmmm seems like u missed the thermal tests, the CPU benchmarking , the product comparison, the monoblock testing , the VRM analysis , The PCIe bifurcations table, the .... Wait .. did you watch any part of the video .... Or are you just blathering ?
You'll get there ;) eventually
Laurent, as a general rule, I would advise anyone under 27 not to watch your video introductions, and force a 15-30 second FFWD...LOL!
moar reviews plz
Comming !!!
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U worried me. I was about to call the police !
@@Laurentschoice 😅
Yeah and the hero of the highest price! Lol. Better get a Gigabyte Master (X) the price difference will get you a Firecuda 540 M2 for instance.
I just sent back that board it was terrible. I have the dark hero coming tomorrow. Hopefully all goes well
That is anya's hodie 😃😃😃😃
This shit not cost that much with 4 dimms and 8 layers lol. And 7800mhz is very hardly achievable compared to 2 dimm boards
Basically same as 790-e but 300$ more expensive just for thunderbolt if I correct, screen and wi-fi 7. Same as simple Hero but with wi-fi 7 and still cost 150$ more. Asus is a joke
You're paying a $200 premium just for looks. Look, I have a Ferrari and you don't. Burning excess cash shouldn't be a hobby.
so you bought ferrari by saving 200$ from that motherboard.
Burning excess cash is other people's hobby and that should not concern you whatsoever. Mind your own business
Imagine coming here talking about buying a Ferrari most of the people with money don't even buy Ferrari's what a lame brag, and waste of money
This computer is well worth it especially if you have 14th gen processors. If you don’t have a board of this quality, you’ll most likely have system issues with those chips.
It has thunderbolt built in and buying a thunderbolt controller is 125 dollars plus the space it takes up.
Fun Fact 😂😂😂😂
I am no porcupine....
Where u gone bro
Right here :) but yeah had to deal with some health issue in the family.... not fun
Sorry to hear hope they are well now bro
I hope that everything is ok 👍 now. I really do enjoy your videos. You have an awesome way. To educate us on Tech gear ⚙️.
@@Laurentschoice Understandable