I'll take an overall downgrade at RG if it means Risner just doesn't give up those immediate pressures 2-3 times a game like Ed does on a regular basis.
Exactly this. Jeremiah Sirles talks about this. It’s not just the lost reps that Ingram has. It’s that he consistently has 2-4 plays per game where he completely whiffs and drives get blown up. There’s a big difference between losing quickly and losing slowly on the line and Ingram is a disaster rep waiting to happen.
Great explanation. The detail was excellent, and exponentially more nuanced than most comments about these two players. I rate Ingram's strength as a critical pre-requisite for success at guard, but I think it's great that the Vikes have three viable options at OG. I just hope the Risner experiment doesn't cost us a game.
Great job presenting the problems of the Vikings left guard Risner vs Ingram for both fit & productivity. My quick thoughts. 1) Vikings offense needs run & pass balance. This balance is key to Vikings getting "Plus QB play" from Sam. Pass first-Alpha QB is not Sam D right now. 2) Risner & Garret Bradbury lined up next to each other destroys the run game. We need Aaron Jones to be healthy and ready to make the run game go in the playoffs: Balance will be key for Sam & offense. 3) PFF grades are a solid metric: Players are measured & graded by their film & production. 4) Of course 1 game is not a players career. But analyzing Win-Loss-Even lets PFF and every football staff at every level analyze player performance to make informed decisions on playing time. 5) I like this kind of content and especially like when the focus is tight - like this look at Ingram & Risner. SKOL Luke.
ay yo this was a HELLA breakdown on o-line play. with that said, i would take the upgrade at pass-pro over the run blocking. remember, engram almost got Sam's ribs broken
Crazy seeing how many people want Risner over Ingram. Doesn't mean they're wrong, as it's all subjective. I just personally don't think people properly value what Ingram provides to a team that's consistently been woeful in run efficiency since KOC arrived. Add in that he's truly the only junkyard dog, glass eater type of the 5 OL and that mentality and attitude is needed
Nah they got Ham for that. You still want a little agility from fullbacks cause they often have to sort out angles really fast. Different than OL pulls
I'll take an overall downgrade at RG if it means Risner just doesn't give up those immediate pressures 2-3 times a game like Ed does on a regular basis.
He gets beat so bad on those plays, how can a QB trust his side?
remember when darnold got his ribs almost broken?
Exactly this. Jeremiah Sirles talks about this. It’s not just the lost reps that Ingram has. It’s that he consistently has 2-4 plays per game where he completely whiffs and drives get blown up. There’s a big difference between losing quickly and losing slowly on the line and Ingram is a disaster rep waiting to happen.
Very insightful! Thank you. Also, I love Hillsdale!! 🎉 SKOL
Great explanation. The detail was excellent, and exponentially more nuanced than most comments about these two players. I rate Ingram's strength as a critical pre-requisite for success at guard, but I think it's great that the Vikes have three viable options at OG. I just hope the Risner experiment doesn't cost us a game.
Great job presenting the problems of the Vikings left guard Risner vs Ingram for both fit & productivity. My quick thoughts. 1) Vikings offense needs run & pass balance. This balance is key to Vikings getting "Plus QB play" from Sam. Pass first-Alpha QB is not Sam D right now. 2) Risner & Garret Bradbury lined up next to each other destroys the run game. We need Aaron Jones to be healthy and ready to make the run game go in the playoffs: Balance will be key for Sam & offense. 3) PFF grades are a solid metric: Players are measured & graded by their film & production. 4) Of course 1 game is not a players career. But analyzing Win-Loss-Even lets PFF and every football staff at every level analyze player performance to make informed decisions on playing time. 5) I like this kind of content and especially like when the focus is tight - like this look at Ingram & Risner. SKOL Luke.
ay yo this was a HELLA breakdown on o-line play. with that said, i would take the upgrade at pass-pro over the run blocking. remember, engram almost got Sam's ribs broken
Great explanation. Risner is a more compatible version of mid than Ingram is for this offense.
Ingram isnt getting better, he is a backup not a starter
Crazy seeing how many people want Risner over Ingram. Doesn't mean they're wrong, as it's all subjective. I just personally don't think people properly value what Ingram provides to a team that's consistently been woeful in run efficiency since KOC arrived. Add in that he's truly the only junkyard dog, glass eater type of the 5 OL and that mentality and attitude is needed
Would this work: Ingram as the lead back in short yardage situations?
what is wrong with you
Nah they got Ham for that. You still want a little agility from fullbacks cause they often have to sort out angles really fast. Different than OL pulls
Ingram gets the QB killed too much.
And Risner gets the running back killed too often.
Bro spends more time talking about what he's going to talk about, then talking about it
That's a basic teaching technique. Maybe learning isn't your thing?