Torah Tuesday - Exodus 11:7-10
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Torah Tuesday is a weekly video series with me, Dr. Carmen Joy Imes. I share what I'm learning as I work on my book projects so you can see it here before it's in print. This week's video is part 3 on the death of the firstborn.
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Regarding God and the problem of evil or the killing of the firstborn. I think that we are hyper sensitive to how ethics functions in our individualist social context. But these events transpired in a communal social context where what we might view as collateral damge is seen more as just condemnation based on their perception of shared honor and shame.
Yes, exactly!
The celebration makes sense. I think I remember later books (prophets) talk about the Passover as proof that YHWH is who is and win over the other gods, and that is long time ago for them. I feel the same way about Jesus resurrection. It can be checked historically and the best explanation is that Jesus actually is risen, and therefor is God. That is enough for me.
Covenant faith from a perpetual first generation participation 🤯 Off topic but the roots of Passover is one of the reasons I struggle with those who press the presence of Christ languge into literal function for Communion. Just a tidbit from a recent discussion with a friend lol
I have some comments, sometimos when we explain that story we explain a Lot of thing "like why God was so hard with the first born on Egypt" but the storytelling is saying YHWH is acting again Pharaoh's evil.
A question: how we should understand in Exodus when God make harden Pharaoh's heart or when?
Yes! Here's a short article I wrote on this subject. I have some other Torah Tuesday videos on Pharaoh's hard heart.
www.csbvbristol.org.uk/2023/08/21/gaslighting-god/
Something you said spurred a thought about timing. Have you put together a timeline of events for the signs? I know some of them indicate what time of year they took place and it seems like all of this may have taken more than a year to complete. What are your thoughts? How do you see the timing?
Brandon, good question! I haven't actually sat down to make a chart. If my memory serves me, I think others claim that all of the signs could have taken place within a year's time. Thanks for the prompt to give this some more thought!
Yes I am enjoying your wrk here 😊 I look forward to it now and I understand more than when I read or listened to the Old Testament . Thank you and peace Be to you 💕
So happy to hear this, Eleanor!
If we are all first generation believers, then how can we bring that to life in the lords supper/communion today, so that we might feel like we are being delivered today, and our children experience this as a deliverance happening to them? It can seem like a token meal where we remember with our minds something that happened a long time ago and a long distance away.
Yes, good point! In our church we all file to the front to pick up the bread and juice and receive a blessing. The physical movement is helpful. Whole families participate. (Many of the children receive a blessing but not the elements).
@@CarmenJoyImesPhD still a question I wrestle with - how to facilitate a communion experience which is transformative...
I like that part about God relating to all His people on a ‘first generation’ basis. There are implications for all of us in that.
Yes, there are!
A couple of questions from 5:40 and on about the Egyptians. Are you saying that the people could have told Pharaoh to just let them go and give into YHWHs demands? How can this be true when God decides that Pharaoh is going to be "hardened" for his purpose of displaying who he is, and how can that be true if they are just the people who see Pharaoh as a god and not some hired/voted/king even mortal? I'm just curious.
tangential: Romans 11:32; Exodus 33:19; Romans 9:15
That's a very fair question, Eric. As I've discussed in previous videos, the "hardening" (aka "strengthening") of Pharaoh does not absolve him of guilt. He is still freely choosing evil and injustice and is held accountable for that choice. Pharaoh's officials make the same choices to add to their guilt by going along with his policies.
Yes, Egyptian kings styled themselves as gods and that's part of the social propaganda. However, there were surely times when a new regime overthrew the one in power, claiming that they were not the one the gods had truly chosen, right?
One thing I find so fascinating is that we become like what we worship. Worshipping false gods produces falsehoods. The gods of the nations were exploitative, so those who claimed to be ruling on their behalf were also exploitative.
@@CarmenJoyImesPhD I was thinking about adding Paul's Acts 14 and Acts 17 sermons re: the former days of the gods of the nations and the command to align with Messiah now.
Thank you for helping us understand the book of Exodus. The older I grow in the Lord, the more important Exodus becomes to me as part of the people of God.
At the end of the day, God is just!
Amen, brother!
Thank you! Enjoy your break 😊
Thank you, James!
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Glad you enjoyed it, Ann!
Knowing that it's the backdrop for communion, your comments on Passover have given me a deeper respect and appreciation for communion. Thank you so so much!
Much more to come in September!
Thank you for using your gift, through God’s Word, to bless us. 🙏🏼
I'm glad these videos are a blessing to you!