FrameWhisperer Tekken Will you be doing a vid on how to backdash on a control pad? Also, do you prefer stick or pad? And what's the benefit of owning a stick alongside a pad? I imagine it'll help when you go to arcades. I live in London where arcades are dying if not already dead...
@@FrameWhisperer lol bro these dudes have to figure out themselves there is also no one saying them how to breath... u also figured it out byurself...right? Prople dumb lmao this dudes will never go out of fujin just bc they dont "want" to😅🤣😂
A better tip in my opinion to play on pad is to use the triggers as multiples, for example: R1 = 1+2 R2 = 3+4 L1 = 1+4 L2 = 2+3 This means you can have fingers on all the buttons ready to go. 1+3 & 2+4 can just be done by you think. And doing 1+2+3+4 means you can just press R1+R2 L1+L2
@bobbyjoetheunicornbro2087 you could assign the tag button to a stick click like R3 or L3, or you could just replace whatever the 3+4 binding is and just do that input manually by placing your thumb between the buttons to press them at the same time since theyre at the bottom of the controller and you wont accidentally hit other buttons, like how you might by trying to manually input 1+2 with your thumb
you dont need to play claw, you can just remap combined Button inputs to the shoulder Buttons. for example i have ot set so that 1+2 is L1, 1+3 is L2, 2+4 is R1, 3+4 is R2 and even 1+4 is L3 (the Left analog stick) and 2+4 is R3 (the right analog stick). pressing the face buttons with your thumb is no problem, only a few strings in the game require the two fingers, the only one i can think of is Steve's machine gun blows (dont know the inputs). the only other slight problem is pressing the left analog stick because you need to to it with your right thumb because otherwise you wouldn't be able to input a direction. this method works completely fine, got to Grand Master with Miguel just fine, i can do the combos for every character i've practised without any problems etc
I have the available macros mapped too, but I feel like it complicates stuff like throw breaks a bit. cause normaly you need to worry about pressing 1, 2 or 1+2, that's two buttons, while if you map it you have to think about 3 buttons.
Good shit mate. Nobody understands how accurate the d-pad can be. Ideally, aside from the DS4, a really good and reliable (and sexy) device is Madcatz's Fightpad Pro, or maybe the Hori one, though I haven't personally used it.
Once you reassign cert button commands like 1+4 and 2+3 to bumpers or triggers. It’s not too hard after that. Allows you to keep your comfortable holding position that you’re used to
Definitely going to adopt this pad playing style you have shown. Feels surprisingly natural, and uses less energy. Helps that I am a fingerstyle bassist as well, so I have lots of stamina for the finger tapping approach. Definite increase in accuracy. As someone returning to the series for the first time since TT1 came out, this will be a big help. Thank you.
I bought a controller today, the Logitech F310 since that's what I can afford, realised I had no clue on how to use it properly lol since I never got to play with a console (except for the PSP). Your video gave me a lot of clarity and I kinda like holding it in that claw grip position. A lot of comments mention their bindings so I'll experiment with that too. Thanks for this video!
I appreciate the stick part, it was clear to me that you had made the necessary considerations when specifying the exact way you gripped the ball. Thanks!!
I use the Xbox One Elite controller, its actually solid for Tekken; - You can remove both thumbsticks - You can use back paddles for tricky inputs (1+4, 2+3) if you desire instead of triggers - You can swap out the default 4 way d-pad with an 8-way d-pad, super good for Tekken (as far as controllers go) - If you do want to use sticks instead of d-pad, you can actually put longer ones on which make it easier than the default shorty ones - A,B,X,Y are closer together than the PS4 equivilent, meaning you can actually hit 1+2 and 3+4 easier than on PS4 controller, also the buttons are firm and not squishy like the PS4.
I have always struggled to get comfortable using my stick with Tekken so I've mostly played pad. But this showed me a new way of moving with the stick that I am going to try out
I play on stick, and for the attack buttons, I have rebound the O input onto the stick's R1 button. This allows me to use my thumb on X, and the next three fingers on square, triangle, and O, which means none of my fingers ever has to move, it just has to either press its button or not.
@@jesusmejia3417 I liked it fine. But I wasn't very good at it. And it would require a serious investment to get better. I didn't have time. Or desire. I'm a very casual gamer, and Tekken is rather competitive.
Oh man, I've been using my stick wrong for 7 years, this is gonna be a pain to unlearn but I know that it will be worth it because my execution improved so much when I used it your way.
Great vid for new tekken players. But like a lot of old school ps players I also use 2 thumbs and 2 fingers on the controller and just remap 2 button combos to the shoulder buttons. T7 also lets you map L3 and R3. Just set it up for ease of use depending on the characters you play. My setup goes: 1+2 = R1 3+4 = R2 1+4 = L1 2+3 = L2 1+3 = R3 2+4 = L3
Graveyard Shift Streams Same as my buttons. I play yoshi and brian and i dont have any trouble. I definitely used to play claw when i would play older tekkens. No problems in T7 tho
I've found myself switching between the normal hold and the claw grip ever since i was like 5 when playing tekken 3 ^^ But one of the things I'd recomend as well is to go into the controller config and set the trigger buttons to the two button setting. Like for example I have L1 And L2 as Square Circle and Triangle X. And then R1 and R2 as doubble punch and doubble kick. The claw grip is defenatly better but this is at least a solution untill the brain starts adapting to the claw. Hope it helped someone. Och för att svara på din fråga ja jag är noob xD
Same here. I remember doing this claw grip sometimes as a kid, but I hadn't played Tekken in years and the newest one has highly customizable controls. So I'm fine with just holding the controller normally. If anything is giving me trouble, it's the d-pad, but only for some characters.
You mean they're shunned by idiots. If the game allows binding options, nobody has any business criticizing them. I even use the analog stick click as a binding.
I've actually been doing this since I was little like 8. Not even cause it's the right way, I've done it cause its actually always been comfortable for me and I still do it this way
Same, I developed this style over time just playing Tekken a lot over the years but I'm a complete casual at the game(s) Interesting it turns out to be the optimal recommendation
7 years I've been playing with stick but I've noticed that my directional inputs get all over the place if the arcade stick lies on my lap just a little bit different than usual. I'll try this method and see if it helps with that problem, thanks for the video!
Honestly, I've used thumb grip for years. And I do pretty fine. I bind some extra inputs into the bumpers and stick click. And it pretty much covers almost all the characters. Although I am considering using the claw grip for when I play Panda. The only problem for me with a pad is that the d-pad gets worned out crazy fast at times. Like, I do half circle back to forward. And suddenly the pad skips some inputs and goes, you went forward to down forward, to back to forward. And then nothing comes out. :L Really annoying when that happens. Too easy wear and tear.
I just swap 2nd button with 3rd button and use combinations with my thumb with no problems. This set up is changing your buttons diagonal from / to \ and it's easier to use with thumb, it's like it was on sega controllers when i played MK3 where were xyz(x = high punch z = high kick) and abc (a = low punch c = low kick) buttons . Best settings for me.
I've been playing with my thumb for weeks when I started to pick this game up more seriously and I do fairly well, i just use the L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, buttons for multi button moves. You can fat finger some inputs with your thumb but you can only practically do 1+3 and 2+4. This was a good video but I don't feel that playing with your thumb is as impractical as you make it out to be, you just have to be willing to learn bindings you make for yourself that are up on the bumpers and triggers and clicking the control sticks.
I agree, playing with the thumb can work okay. It also depends on the controller. With mine I can consistently press 2 kick buttons or 2 punch buttons at the same time. It probably depends on a person's fingers and thumbs too. I think with larger hands a claw grip would be more awkward feeling.
On the PS1, I used the back buttons but also claw gripped for some moves (1+4 & 2+3). But claw grip is bad because of RSI so now I use L1=1+4, R1=2+3, L2=3+4, R2=1+2 and R3=rage, and I just use my thumb for 1+3 and 2+4, but I'm trying to not rely on throws these days.
I personally have a very uncommon grip of my stick. I basically turn my hand palm up and squeeze the ball of the controller between the two finger on the middle of my hand. Then I just close my hand around it (with my thumb on top) and manipulate it like that. I know it's strange but I've always been playing like this since I'm a kid and this is, by far, the way that feels the most comfortable for me.
I switch between using the claw grip in both sides(controller rests on my lap) and one side like you showed.I usually don't hug the controller with my thumb pinky on the right side.
I think it's kinda funny that so many people come to the same conclusion. I came here to see if there were other methods of holding the controller. Apparently the way I hold it (and people that don't play Tekken a lot mock me for) is considered to be normal among Tekken players.
for all newcomers program 1+2 / 1+3/ 1+4 / rage art to the shoulder buttons you will get better at the game and I play Ling,Nina,Asuka & Lucky chole the shoulder buttons helps air juggle a lot
Great idea. Especially makes rage arts easy after a dash or run. I would personally be careful not to get too dependent on it in the long run, just in case you do not have access to the bind feature in the future.
^ Exactly what FrameWhisperer said. I personally think this is a bad idea, and speak from experience. I used shoulder buttons in T6 and for some time in TTT2 and got so reliant on them up to the point that I could barely play without them. Back when TTT2 just came out, I joined a local tournament and couldn't even pull off my staple juggles because extra binds weren't allowed. Needless to say I got annihilated. I think it's best to just tough it out and learn it the proper way. This way the correct inputs needed will also register in your head. With T7 I decided I wouldn't bind anything, not even RA (even though it's bound by default) and I feel like I'm a much better player these days.
Not have access to binding in the future? It's been in the franchise since the very first Tekken - it's not going anywhere lol. And any tournament that allows controllers will also allow the buttons to be configured. This is to somewhat level the playing field so stick users don't have natural advantages (being able to hit 1+2, 1+4, etc consistently and not getting hand cramp from the claw grip).
I actually grip my controller as normal, but I rebind the punch to the two shoulder buttons, that way I have a finger for each punch and my tump for the 2 kicks. I also rebind some multi input buttons. I'm doing fine so far.
you can program inputs into other buttens too make it easier on a ps4 controller. For example 1+2 can be programed into L2 and 3+4 can be programed into R2. also you can program 1+3 and 2+4 too L1 and R1.
Well.. im playing tekken since tekken 4 and i never ever used arcade stick or other game pads only the basic Duelshock controller, and i played Bruce on tekken 6, bruce+Jinpachi in tekken tag 2 and now im playing yoshi on tekken 7, all in a pretty good level i think. How i do that? i simply holding my controller the same as i will hold it on any other game, and on the controller setup i edit R1 to be LK+RK, R2 to be LP+RP, L1 is my Rage Art and the L2 button change with the character i play... now lets say you have a move that use 3 buttons at ones? like 1+2+3 for yoshimitsu Spirit Shield - you simply press R2 which is 1+2 and add it the 3 so it would be R2+3.. yes i know tekken meant to be an arcade game so i understand that with an arcade stick it should be way easier to play, but playing with a simple controller its far from impossible and there is no need the change the way you holding the controller. By the way - sorry for the negativity, and thanks for the video i hope it would help people and may we all meet on EVO some day ;)
tal mizrahi not trying to be rude, but how do you know that you're at a good level? Are you able to easily space yourself and comfortably fish for whiff punishes? are you consistently and habitually backdash canceling? are you punishing everything you block with the correct punish? (using a 13 frame punish because you know the move that you just blocked leaves them at -13) I think if you are capable of doing all of this stuff then you can be considered on a good level.
Nine Well there is always more to learn and to practice.. what i wanted to say was that there is no such a thing as "impossible" and there is no need to change the way you holding your controller.. my rank with yoshi is a Marauder and im play the same as i will play in any other game
Hmm, Marauder is low and cannot be considered anywhere near a 'good' level, but Tekken is a game with a near limitless skill ceiling so you (and anyone else still stuck down in green ranks) can only improve!
Binding is fine but 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+3, 2+4 and 3+4 would all need to be bound for this to work overall, I'm not sure there are enough buttons to make that happen? If it works for the character you main that's fine, but it will probably feel awkward to switch characters in the future. Also, the option does not exist if you should ever be in an arcade, although I know that does not happen for most people. Thanks for your questions!
Tried playing with claw grip, but i ended up making my hand ache all the time. Played with right thumb for as long as i can remember. Thing is, I play Claudio, and having 1+2 and 3+4 binded, makes it so I have no problems getting off his moves regardless. Should probably try just adapting to claw anyways, but idk
If you can play fine with the thumbs that's great. Your hands will probably not ache if you get used to it, but obv. you should never hurt yourself for a game!
Same situation here. I have always played with my thumb but the limitations of that were immediately apparent. This led me to bind stuff to shoulder buttons for a long time but I've gotten rid of that now as well. I've thought of the claw grip before, after seeing some people holding the controller that way on tournament videos, but could never quite get used to it myself. My wrist starts hurting rather quickly and it just feels... wrong. I've stuck to thumb for now because somehow I've managed to get pretty good at it. I play Alisa and her execution is pretty simple and rarely needs any quick diagonal inputs, so it's kinda worked out, but I still wonder if I could progress faster if I learned to use claw. I'm sure it's just a matter of practice, but it's just weird to switch and be worse for a while.
The only reason to play with the clae in my experience is the "~" moves. I.e. Xiaoyu's 3~4 sommersault, and her AoP 3~4 scissor kick. To do these I just quickly sweep my thumb over O and X, but it might be a little tough to do traditionally out the gates.
when i first started playing i was doing the normal grip, and the longer i played it just happened that i do the claw grip already, i only searched for a video on how to grip properly to see if what i do is normal
You're the bast! I've been struggling a lot to get the back dash right, but I'm finally getting the hang of it since I watched your video. Thanks alot!
Just got the game and have not played a fighting game since Tekken 4 on ps2. Got My ass kicked in the first campaign chapter. But will try this and find out what characters I like at the same time.
I know this is an old video but for anyone new you can grip the controller the more intuitive way. can bind 1+4 and 2+3 on the right triggers. I do this and how no issues.
well the 1st grip for the pad is surely efficient but really taxing for your hand and that can cause u carpel tunnel so you should not use it often or a sugest to just not use it really taxing is up to you to use it
I used to normal holding since Tekken 3 in ps1 till now. There is no one only correct holding for pad controller in Tekken as you said it is according to what the person used to.
Defo important to learn to play without binding buttons. I didn't even think about them taking away the binding option, my fear is going to someone's house to play a tournament and them telling me I can't bind... So playing with both methods is useful to know.
I specifically looked for those combinations and couldn't find any information. I wish he demonstrated possible sample combinations. Still great guide though.
I just hold the controller normally, mostly using my right thumb. No rebinding stuff to shoulder buttons. Occasionally I'll use two fingers for the fancier stuff, but I always switch back to using my thumb after a second or two. I'm an orange level player but my execution is worse than anyone I run into and probably worse than many beginners, too. Always a crapshoot if pushing two buttons at once is gonna work. I'd probably do better if I adapted, but the grip is so comfy...
I've been using thumb since Tekken 3. I just need 1+ 4 and 3+ 2 binding. I'm tryng claw grip: It is very nice for 1 + 2 but it is very hard for me to do 3 ~ 1 or 4 ~ 2 . Should I use one or two fingers for those ?
I use the claw grip on the ps4 controller and my younger brother uses the standard grip and he still pulls off faster combos than me then again he has a DMC background so....
Hi, flamewhisperer, I am new to tekken 7 and wanted to know how to the diagonal presses on PS4 D-Pad; example: down back, forward back etc. Would help if you could do a video of that; this current one was informative!!
I used to just map 1 to L1, 2 to R1, 3 to L2, 4 to R2, so i gave up on that cuz i dont wanna bully my brother too hard and tried the pad buttons aka claw grip and both works fine honestly just up to preferemce and u need to build muscle memory over time thats all
My dudes, if you are having a hard time with the duel shock controller during backdashes due to the space in between the buttons, I highly recommend getting your grubby little mitts on a Madcatz Fightpad Pro! These things are absolutely sick, due to the disk dpad, arcade-style face buttons(bound to R1 and R2), and it can swap between PS4 and PS3! Plus it's got semi-hidden pause and share buttons so that's not a problem! Plus it's nice and wide for the sex appeal. My good dead for the day is done. Peace.
2:00 Now here's the thing. Believe it or not, the controllers are NOT designed to be held like a steering wheel but instead so that you'd actually take a grip with three fingers and only use your index fingers for both shoulder buttons. I have always gripped any controller the steering wheel way or claw (because duh, who would want to move their fingers between buttons when you have perfectly fine extra fingers to have always at one?) and I kept wondering for years how everyone was praising the new controllers and throwing shade on the PS1/2 pad because it is completely opposite for me. I've come to realize, like 95 % of the people do play with only their thumbs and index fingers. I cannot understand how or why people adopt this way of gripping but somehow they do. I guess there just aren't games these days that ask you to operate both triggers at the same time. I grew up with Ape Escape so I'm used to operate even a double claw with both index fingers on the front of the controller.
I prefer to put the weird stretches on the triggers and play w the thumb. I’ve used sticks before and I’m comfortable with playing w my fingers; but it feels way too weird on a little controller for me to do.
With all respect, I strongly believe, this video is misleading for the people who use DualShock controller. I use pad and I hold it normally and I am able to do everything you can possibly think of Korean back dash, S+ Combos, forward dash, side dashes etc and all it takes is practice. I have been practicing for 8 months now and I play Yoshi and I can do everything with that character. Highest rank I have achieved is Vanquisher (I do not play ranked matches that much), but I can surely reach overload in no time if I will play more ranked matches I believe. In summary, you do not have to hold your DualShock control in some weird way to get good at the game. Practice is all it takes. A lot of Kasua players use and hold the pad normally. There are some videos on youtube as well. All it takes is practice. PS: I have tried different controllers and believe DualShock is simple and the best.
I'm at TGP the highest rank in the game. You do not need to hold the controller in this weird claw position. Hold it like a normal person. If you want to know my layout I'd be happy to give it to you. There are small limitations for holding the controller normally (4 shoulder buttons is not enough), but it's not a big deal.
@@trilfy can you help me? i’ve read some comments saying that claw is better and other ones said that you should mix two buttons as one R1 R2 L1 L2, i’m confused.
Thanks for the video first of all! I am pretty new to Tekken and one mature problem I have is to press those "half-circle" or even "full circle" commands (f-df-d-db-b for example) using a pad. Do you have any tips how to input those commands more easily on a pad?
On a gamepad or traditional controller? I don't have experience with a gamepad, but for a regular DS4 or even XBO controller, I usually switch to the analog stick for QCB/F and HCB/F Truthfully though, I don't have much success most of the time, lol. But I haven't really put in the practice time necessary to become proficient in it.
On a traditional DS4. I tried using the stick too, but I don't feel comfortable at all switching between stick and buttons. Even though it might be a thing of practice, it feels kind of clumsy and imprecise using the stick.
If trying to do qcf from 1p side of screen (left side), place the tip of your thumb on "down". Then do a quick but straight diagonal motion from "down" to "forward". The motion should look like when you're swiping a straight line from the bottom left of your phone to the top right. Also, make sure your thumb gets to "forward" before inputting any attack button. Same thing applies to qcb motion First try to get the hang of doing qcf and qcb motions from neutral stance. After that you can then try doing it during other stuff like combos, after sidesteps or after back dashes etc. For these situations you gotta be aware that recovery animations of attacks can mess up your timing. However, there's a "show recovery animation" option in the training lab that might be helpful with that.
I got an Xbox series 2 controller and I can rebind all button to my 4 paddles, bumpers and triggers. I can still just use my thumb to press 3+4 or 1+3 with no problem though.
I’m 50/50 I hold my controller like the same way but twist to the left. My left thumb controls the d-pad, and my index and middle finger controls the attack buttons and I placed the controller on the right thigh to play tekken
There are quite a lot of high level players these days who play just fine with thumb technique. I think tk_anakin for example is one. He can play with stick too, but uses a pad in tournaments.
this is not true. if you are using your thumb on the controller just assign L2 as 13 L1 as 34 R1 as 24 and R2 as 12. That's how I play for years. I play in the gold ranks so it does work. Rolling death cradle is a breeze with this setup. Only 14 and 23 need you to quickly use your fingers but you can easily transition to your fingers and back to your thumb with little practice.
I'm pretty sure for Xbox players the buttons are way closer together so I have no problem playing with my thumb, Idk how hard it would be on a duelshock
i wish i could like this video thousand times more. Thanks really loved it. 😊😊😊
Glad it helped!
FrameWhisperer Tekken Will you be doing a vid on how to backdash on a control pad? Also, do you prefer stick or pad? And what's the benefit of owning a stick alongside a pad? I imagine it'll help when you go to arcades. I live in London where arcades are dying if not already dead...
FrameWhisperer Tekken what about the hitbox great video all in all.
I agree this guy is dope, he made my training in tekken much more smooth.
@@FrameWhisperer lol bro these dudes have to figure out themselves there is also no one saying them how to breath... u also figured it out byurself...right? Prople dumb lmao this dudes will never go out of fujin just bc they dont "want" to😅🤣😂
A better tip in my opinion to play on pad is to use the triggers as multiples, for example:
R1 = 1+2
R2 = 3+4
L1 = 1+4
L2 = 2+3
This means you can have fingers on all the buttons ready to go. 1+3 & 2+4 can just be done by you think. And doing 1+2+3+4 means you can just press R1+R2 L1+L2
This is my exact bindings
I was wondering where he was gonna mention binds lol
@bobbyjoetheunicornbro2087 you could assign the tag button to a stick click like R3 or L3, or you could just replace whatever the 3+4 binding is and just do that input manually by placing your thumb between the buttons to press them at the same time since theyre at the bottom of the controller and you wont accidentally hit other buttons, like how you might by trying to manually input 1+2 with your thumb
Bruh please give me your whatsapp number or instagram please i have problem in controlls in TTT2 😢
you dont need to play claw, you can just remap combined Button inputs to the shoulder Buttons. for example i have ot set so that 1+2 is L1, 1+3 is L2, 2+4 is R1, 3+4 is R2 and even 1+4 is L3 (the Left analog stick) and 2+4 is R3 (the right analog stick). pressing the face buttons with your thumb is no problem, only a few strings in the game require the two fingers, the only one i can think of is Steve's machine gun blows (dont know the inputs). the only other slight problem is pressing the left analog stick because you need to to it with your right thumb because otherwise you wouldn't be able to input a direction.
this method works completely fine, got to Grand Master with Miguel just fine, i can do the combos for every character i've practised without any problems etc
TheHartmann I'm not using the claw too and I'm Vanquisher ^^
I have the available macros mapped too, but I feel like it complicates stuff like throw breaks a bit. cause normaly you need to worry about pressing 1, 2 or 1+2, that's two buttons, while if you map it you have to think about 3 buttons.
TheHartmann same man i just find stick more fun to play
Good shit mate. Nobody understands how accurate the d-pad can be. Ideally, aside from the DS4, a really good and reliable (and sexy) device is Madcatz's Fightpad Pro, or maybe the Hori one, though I haven't personally used it.
Playing since Tekken 3 required PlayStation users to play claw
Habits die hard :/
Once you reassign cert button commands like 1+4 and 2+3 to bumpers or triggers. It’s not too hard after that. Allows you to keep your comfortable holding position that you’re used to
Definitely going to adopt this pad playing style you have shown. Feels surprisingly natural, and uses less energy. Helps that I am a fingerstyle bassist as well, so I have lots of stamina for the finger tapping approach. Definite increase in accuracy. As someone returning to the series for the first time since TT1 came out, this will be a big help. Thank you.
Hows your progress, hope your having fun in T7 (besides the kuni dlc cuz kuni makes me suffer)
I'm searching for video on how to hold the PS4 controller when playing Tekken and I found this video. Thumbs up.
Glad you liked it!
I bought a controller today, the Logitech F310 since that's what I can afford, realised I had no clue on how to use it properly lol since I never got to play with a console (except for the PSP). Your video gave me a lot of clarity and I kinda like holding it in that claw grip position. A lot of comments mention their bindings so I'll experiment with that too. Thanks for this video!
I appreciate the stick part, it was clear to me that you had made the necessary considerations when specifying the exact way you gripped the ball. Thanks!!
I use the Xbox One Elite controller, its actually solid for Tekken;
- You can remove both thumbsticks
- You can use back paddles for tricky inputs (1+4, 2+3) if you desire instead of triggers
- You can swap out the default 4 way d-pad with an 8-way d-pad, super good for Tekken (as far as controllers go)
- If you do want to use sticks instead of d-pad, you can actually put longer ones on which make it easier than the default shorty ones
- A,B,X,Y are closer together than the PS4 equivilent, meaning you can actually hit 1+2 and 3+4 easier than on PS4 controller, also the buttons are firm and not squishy like the PS4.
this is true
This video is incredibly enlightening. Thank you
My pleasure!
I have always struggled to get comfortable using my stick with Tekken so I've mostly played pad. But this showed me a new way of moving with the stick that I am going to try out
I play on stick, and for the attack buttons, I have rebound the O input onto the stick's R1 button. This allows me to use my thumb on X, and the next three fingers on square, triangle, and O, which means none of my fingers ever has to move, it just has to either press its button or not.
Because of this video I decided to give Tekken another try. I can't thank you enough.
Do you still play it?
@@jesusmejia3417 Nope.
@@niedomyty00 sl You didn't like it?
@@jesusmejia3417 I liked it fine. But I wasn't very good at it. And it would require a serious investment to get better. I didn't have time. Or desire. I'm a very casual gamer, and Tekken is rather competitive.
This video needs to be liked a million times over...i never even knew about claw grip...i think this will elevate my play alot...thanks a ton!!!
Happy to hear it!
Oh man, I've been using my stick wrong for 7 years, this is gonna be a pain to unlearn but I know that it will be worth it because my execution improved so much when I used it your way.
Great vid for new tekken players. But like a lot of old school ps players I also use 2 thumbs and 2 fingers on the controller and just remap 2 button combos to the shoulder buttons. T7 also lets you map L3 and R3. Just set it up for ease of use depending on the characters you play. My setup goes:
1+2 = R1
3+4 = R2
1+4 = L1
2+3 = L2
1+3 = R3
2+4 = L3
Whatever works! Comfort is key!
Graveyard Shift Streams Same as my buttons. I play yoshi and brian and i dont have any trouble. I definitely used to play claw when i would play older tekkens. No problems in T7 tho
What bout your rage art
@2tuffdae i just do the move. Its usually a direction + a shoulder button.
Never ever heard aboud the claw grip!
People still need this video in 2019
Thank you so much
The camera placement made me a bit dizzy don know why but good vid though understood everything nicely
I've found myself switching between the normal hold and the claw grip ever since i was like 5 when playing tekken 3 ^^ But one of the things I'd recomend as well is to go into the controller config and set the trigger buttons to the two button setting. Like for example I have L1 And L2 as Square Circle and Triangle X. And then R1 and R2 as doubble punch and doubble kick.
The claw grip is defenatly better but this is at least a solution untill the brain starts adapting to the claw. Hope it helped someone.
Och för att svara på din fråga ja jag är noob xD
I just rebind relevant/difficult multi button inputs to bumpers depending on characters, great video.
Thanks!
Same here. I remember doing this claw grip sometimes as a kid, but I hadn't played Tekken in years and the newest one has highly customizable controls. So I'm fine with just holding the controller normally. If anything is giving me trouble, it's the d-pad, but only for some characters.
Shoulder buttons are shunned by the community
You mean they're shunned by idiots. If the game allows binding options, nobody has any business criticizing them. I even use the analog stick click as a binding.
armagedonbe I bet ur light blue ranks HAHAH.
I've actually been doing this since I was little like 8. Not even cause it's the right way, I've done it cause its actually always been comfortable for me and I still do it this way
Same, I developed this style over time just playing Tekken a lot over the years but I'm a complete casual at the game(s)
Interesting it turns out to be the optimal recommendation
Thank you so much my guy it was so close in my mind but I couldn’t properly put it together till now
7 years I've been playing with stick but I've noticed that my directional inputs get all over the place if the arcade stick lies on my lap just a little bit different than usual. I'll try this method and see if it helps with that problem, thanks for the video!
Honestly, I've used thumb grip for years. And I do pretty fine. I bind some extra inputs into the bumpers and stick click. And it pretty much covers almost all the characters. Although I am considering using the claw grip for when I play Panda. The only problem for me with a pad is that the d-pad gets worned out crazy fast at times. Like, I do half circle back to forward. And suddenly the pad skips some inputs and goes, you went forward to down forward, to back to forward. And then nothing comes out. :L Really annoying when that happens. Too easy wear and tear.
Im doing this for 5 min and bc of early cod days I was doing this new claw grip. Good tutorial man thanks alot. I was using my thumb. Thumbs are dumb.
I just swap 2nd button with 3rd button and use combinations with my thumb with no problems. This set up is changing your buttons diagonal from / to \ and it's easier to use with thumb, it's like it was on sega controllers when i played MK3 where were xyz(x = high punch z = high kick) and abc (a = low punch c = low kick) buttons . Best settings for me.
I've been playing with my thumb for weeks when I started to pick this game up more seriously and I do fairly well, i just use the L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, buttons for multi button moves. You can fat finger some inputs with your thumb but you can only practically do 1+3 and 2+4. This was a good video but I don't feel that playing with your thumb is as impractical as you make it out to be, you just have to be willing to learn bindings you make for yourself that are up on the bumpers and triggers and clicking the control sticks.
I agree, playing with the thumb can work okay. It also depends on the controller. With mine I can consistently press 2 kick buttons or 2 punch buttons at the same time. It probably depends on a person's fingers and thumbs too. I think with larger hands a claw grip would be more awkward feeling.
On the PS1, I used the back buttons but also claw gripped for some moves (1+4 & 2+3). But claw grip is bad because of RSI so now I use L1=1+4, R1=2+3, L2=3+4, R2=1+2 and R3=rage, and I just use my thumb for 1+3 and 2+4, but I'm trying to not rely on throws these days.
I personally have a very uncommon grip of my stick. I basically turn my hand palm up and squeeze the ball of the controller between the two finger on the middle of my hand. Then I just close my hand around it (with my thumb on top) and manipulate it like that.
I know it's strange but I've always been playing like this since I'm a kid and this is, by far, the way that feels the most comfortable for me.
I switch between using the claw grip in both sides(controller rests on my lap) and one side like you showed.I usually don't hug the controller with my thumb pinky on the right side.
Shoulder binds are perfectly valid as well, probably better for more casual players.
Totally, it's a good idea for rage arts and such.
When I need to do 1+2 or something like that i simply making the R2 button but great video tho
I think it's kinda funny that so many people come to the same conclusion. I came here to see if there were other methods of holding the controller.
Apparently the way I hold it (and people that don't play Tekken a lot mock me for) is considered to be normal among Tekken players.
for all newcomers program 1+2 / 1+3/ 1+4 / rage art to the shoulder buttons
you will get better at the game
and I play Ling,Nina,Asuka & Lucky chole
the shoulder buttons helps air juggle a lot
Great idea. Especially makes rage arts easy after a dash or run. I would personally be careful not to get too dependent on it in the long run, just in case you do not have access to the bind feature in the future.
^ Exactly what FrameWhisperer said. I personally think this is a bad idea, and speak from experience. I used shoulder buttons in T6 and for some time in TTT2 and got so reliant on them up to the point that I could barely play without them. Back when TTT2 just came out, I joined a local tournament and couldn't even pull off my staple juggles because extra binds weren't allowed. Needless to say I got annihilated. I think it's best to just tough it out and learn it the proper way. This way the correct inputs needed will also register in your head. With T7 I decided I wouldn't bind anything, not even RA (even though it's bound by default) and I feel like I'm a much better player these days.
Not have access to binding in the future? It's been in the franchise since the very first Tekken - it's not going anywhere lol.
And any tournament that allows controllers will also allow the buttons to be configured. This is to somewhat level the playing field so stick users don't have natural advantages (being able to hit 1+2, 1+4, etc consistently and not getting hand cramp from the claw grip).
I actually grip my controller as normal, but I rebind the punch to the two shoulder buttons, that way I have a finger for each punch and my tump for the 2 kicks. I also rebind some multi input buttons. I'm doing fine so far.
actually smart
I kinda just use this:
R1: Rage Art
R2: 1+2
R3: 1+4
L1: 1+2+3+4
L2: 3+4
L3: 2+3
L2 1+2 for me
Lol L3 u wont use... ive there ki charge button and r3 2 3 for jins throw
thats exactly how i have always played tekken, i just instinctively started grabbing it like that, it just makes sense
I Just rebinded
1+2/3+4 to R1/R2,
1+4/2+3 to L1/L2.
That works perfectly for me.
thankyou for this! I''m gonna try it! Was having a though times breaking throws😅😅
On pad I use my index, middle, thumb, and ring for 1, 2, 3, and 4 buttons respectively. I’m used to it so it never hurts.
Key bindings work just fine tbh. And you don't need to buffer or worry that you misinput 1+2 or such.
you can program inputs into other buttens too make it easier on a ps4 controller. For example 1+2 can be programed into L2 and 3+4 can be programed into R2. also you can program 1+3 and 2+4 too L1 and R1.
and 1+4 and 2+3 can be programed into L3 and R3
Well.. im playing tekken since tekken 4 and i never ever used arcade stick or other game pads only the basic Duelshock controller, and i played Bruce on tekken 6, bruce+Jinpachi in tekken tag 2 and now im playing yoshi on tekken 7, all in a pretty good level i think. How i do that? i simply holding my controller the same as i will hold it on any other game, and on the controller setup i edit R1 to be LK+RK, R2 to be LP+RP, L1 is my Rage Art and the L2 button change with the character i play...
now lets say you have a move that use 3 buttons at ones? like 1+2+3 for yoshimitsu Spirit Shield - you simply press R2 which is 1+2 and add it the 3 so it would be R2+3..
yes i know tekken meant to be an arcade game so i understand that with an arcade stick it should be way easier to play, but playing with a simple controller its far from impossible and there is no need the change the way you holding the controller.
By the way - sorry for the negativity, and thanks for the video i hope it would help people and may we all meet on EVO some day ;)
tal mizrahi not trying to be rude, but how do you know that you're at a good level? Are you able to easily space yourself and comfortably fish for whiff punishes? are you consistently and habitually backdash canceling? are you punishing everything you block with the correct punish? (using a 13 frame punish because you know the move that you just blocked leaves them at -13) I think if you are capable of doing all of this stuff then you can be considered on a good level.
Nine Well there is always more to learn and to practice.. what i wanted to say was that there is no such a thing as "impossible" and there is no need to change the way you holding your controller.. my rank with yoshi is a Marauder
and im play the same as i will play in any other game
Hmm, Marauder is low and cannot be considered anywhere near a 'good' level, but Tekken is a game with a near limitless skill ceiling so you (and anyone else still stuck down in green ranks) can only improve!
Binding is fine but 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+3, 2+4 and 3+4 would all need to be bound for this to work overall, I'm not sure there are enough buttons to make that happen? If it works for the character you main that's fine, but it will probably feel awkward to switch characters in the future. Also, the option does not exist if you should ever be in an arcade, although I know that does not happen for most people. Thanks for your questions!
@@FrameWhisperer actually there's 6 button where you can bind, so yes it's possible.
Tried playing with claw grip, but i ended up making my hand ache all the time. Played with right thumb for as long as i can remember. Thing is, I play Claudio, and having 1+2 and 3+4 binded, makes it so I have no problems getting off his moves regardless.
Should probably try just adapting to claw anyways, but idk
If you can play fine with the thumbs that's great. Your hands will probably not ache if you get used to it, but obv. you should never hurt yourself for a game!
Same situation here. I have always played with my thumb but the limitations of that were immediately apparent. This led me to bind stuff to shoulder buttons for a long time but I've gotten rid of that now as well. I've thought of the claw grip before, after seeing some people holding the controller that way on tournament videos, but could never quite get used to it myself. My wrist starts hurting rather quickly and it just feels... wrong. I've stuck to thumb for now because somehow I've managed to get pretty good at it. I play Alisa and her execution is pretty simple and rarely needs any quick diagonal inputs, so it's kinda worked out, but I still wonder if I could progress faster if I learned to use claw. I'm sure it's just a matter of practice, but it's just weird to switch and be worse for a while.
Stevekoelle just set the shoulder buttons to 1+2 and 3+4
The only reason to play with the clae in my experience is the "~" moves. I.e. Xiaoyu's 3~4 sommersault, and her AoP 3~4 scissor kick. To do these I just quickly sweep my thumb over O and X, but it might be a little tough to do traditionally out the gates.
when i first started playing i was doing the normal grip, and the longer i played it just happened that i do the claw grip already, i only searched for a video on how to grip properly to see if what i do is normal
Square + x on the L1
Triangle + o on the r1
Square + triangle on L2
X + o on r2
Been using this since tekken 1
Exactly
I dunno why people dont think about it
You're the bast! I've been struggling a lot to get the back dash right, but I'm finally getting the hang of it since I watched your video. Thanks alot!
Hey thanks a lot man good luck with the game!
Is that aquarium park theme song playing in the background?
You bet. I'm a huge Sonic fan.
This really helped me man!
Keep up the good work
Just got the game and have not played a fighting game since Tekken 4 on ps2. Got My ass kicked in the first campaign chapter. But will try this and find out what characters I like at the same time.
You can press the three buttons long as you press the appropriate direction
Watching this for tekken 5 :)
i use my tumb since and it works fine, it's hard to press 2+3 but you can just put it into the buttons on the back such as L1 L2 R1 or R2
Claw grip makes it way easier on games like KoF or GG. On SF you kind of need to hold it "classic way" due to the shoulder buttons
I know this is an old video but for anyone new you can grip the controller the more intuitive way. can bind 1+4 and 2+3 on the right triggers. I do this and how no issues.
well the 1st grip for the pad is surely efficient but really taxing for your hand and that can cause u carpel tunnel so you should not use it often or a sugest to just not use it really taxing is up to you to use it
I used to normal holding since Tekken 3 in ps1 till now. There is no one only correct holding for pad controller in Tekken as you said it is according to what the person used to.
Just remap triangle and circle to r1 and r2. There ya go you can do any multi-button inputs esier and more comfortable.
I do the same mate
thank god you made this tutorial, thank so much bro!
Defo important to learn to play without binding buttons. I didn't even think about them taking away the binding option, my fear is going to someone's house to play a tournament and them telling me I can't bind... So playing with both methods is useful to know.
Beautiful hands bruh
lol cheers!
can you make a video with you playing with the claw grip on the dual shock? im still unsure how to use it, especially 1+3 and 2+4 moves
I specifically looked for those combinations and couldn't find any information. I wish he demonstrated possible sample combinations. Still great guide though.
@@armansavsaevcimen8233 rebind moves on the game put it on the bumpers and change your rage art input to r3 (click in the stick)
I just hold the controller normally, mostly using my right thumb. No rebinding stuff to shoulder buttons. Occasionally I'll use two fingers for the fancier stuff, but I always switch back to using my thumb after a second or two. I'm an orange level player but my execution is worse than anyone I run into and probably worse than many beginners, too. Always a crapshoot if pushing two buttons at once is gonna work. I'd probably do better if I adapted, but the grip is so comfy...
you can use the other 2 bottoms on stick i use them for 1+3 and 2+4 if you buffer it makes it easier for stuff like RDC
And for the hint for people if you're trying to do + 1 + 2 + 3 whatever use the triggers or L1 or R1
So basically, never play Tekken on a controller, huh? Thanks for the tip!
Your opinions on Tekken are invalid and short sighted.
@@inkredibill6352 Agreed
Thank you so much, this video help me a lot
you should just play with whatever you are comfortable with. remember that you are allowed to map the R and L buttons aswell
Use D-Pad and use middle finger and index for the buttons
I've been using thumb since Tekken 3. I just need 1+ 4 and 3+ 2 binding. I'm tryng claw grip: It is very nice for 1 + 2 but it is very hard for me to do 3 ~ 1 or 4 ~ 2 . Should I use one or two fingers for those ?
u could swap the square, triaggle, circle, and cross butto to L1L2,R1 and R2
I use the claw grip on the ps4 controller and my younger brother uses the standard grip and he still pulls off faster combos than me then again he has a DMC background so....
Dmc?
@@-godschild-5067 yeah Devil may cry....it's a hack and slash heavily based on fast paced combos...
This looks pretty fun to learn
Hi, flamewhisperer, I am new to tekken 7 and wanted to know how to the diagonal presses on PS4 D-Pad; example: down back, forward back etc. Would help if you could do a video of that; this current one was informative!!
Only problems I had were 2+3 and 1+4 but that was solved with L1 and R1. 1+2, 1+3, 3+4 and 2+4 are easy enough to do with thumb.
I used to just map 1 to L1, 2 to R1, 3 to L2, 4 to R2, so i gave up on that cuz i dont wanna bully my brother too hard and tried the pad buttons aka claw grip and both works fine honestly just up to preferemce and u need to build muscle memory over time thats all
My dudes, if you are having a hard time with the duel shock controller during backdashes due to the space in between the buttons, I highly recommend getting your grubby little mitts on a Madcatz Fightpad Pro! These things are absolutely sick, due to the disk dpad, arcade-style face buttons(bound to R1 and R2), and it can swap between PS4 and PS3! Plus it's got semi-hidden pause and share buttons so that's not a problem! Plus it's nice and wide for the sex appeal. My good dead for the day is done. Peace.
2:00 Now here's the thing. Believe it or not, the controllers are NOT designed to be held like a steering wheel but instead so that you'd actually take a grip with three fingers and only use your index fingers for both shoulder buttons. I have always gripped any controller the steering wheel way or claw (because duh, who would want to move their fingers between buttons when you have perfectly fine extra fingers to have always at one?) and I kept wondering for years how everyone was praising the new controllers and throwing shade on the PS1/2 pad because it is completely opposite for me. I've come to realize, like 95 % of the people do play with only their thumbs and index fingers. I cannot understand how or why people adopt this way of gripping but somehow they do. I guess there just aren't games these days that ask you to operate both triggers at the same time. I grew up with Ape Escape so I'm used to operate even a double claw with both index fingers on the front of the controller.
I prefer to put the weird stretches on the triggers and play w the thumb. I’ve used sticks before and I’m comfortable with playing w my fingers; but it feels way too weird on a little controller for me to do.
Good video bro! very helpful
Cheers!
Can you do a guide on nailing all the qcf-like motions for people playing on the dpad of controllers?
Which restrictor gate would you recommend for sanwa stick
With all respect, I strongly believe, this video is misleading for the people who use DualShock controller. I use pad and I hold it normally and I am able to do everything you can possibly think of Korean back dash, S+ Combos, forward dash, side dashes etc and all it takes is practice. I have been practicing for 8 months now and I play Yoshi and I can do everything with that character. Highest rank I have achieved is Vanquisher (I do not play ranked matches that much), but I can surely reach overload in no time if I will play more ranked matches I believe.
In summary, you do not have to hold your DualShock control in some weird way to get good at the game. Practice is all it takes. A lot of Kasua players use and hold the pad normally. There are some videos on youtube as well. All it takes is practice.
PS: I have tried different controllers and believe DualShock is simple and the best.
Lol, my friend thought me that when i bought the game. Hälsningar från Sverige!
Bra kompis du har! Tack!
Thanks frame. I was stuck with controllar
It's 2 years and I don't know that I'm using claw 😂
That's funny because I've been holding my ps4 pad like this since tekken 6 but I never knew it was the proper way of holding it lol
I'm at TGP the highest rank in the game. You do not need to hold the controller in this weird claw position. Hold it like a normal person. If you want to know my layout I'd be happy to give it to you. There are small limitations for holding the controller normally (4 shoulder buttons is not enough), but it's not a big deal.
@@trilfy can you help me? i’ve read some comments saying that claw is better and other ones said that you should mix two buttons as one R1 R2 L1 L2, i’m confused.
I just bind
r1 = 1+2,
r2 = 3+4,
l1 = 1+4,
and l2 = 2+3
You absolute legend
This video made me forget how I hold my controller
I naturally played pad like an arcade stick for some reason
Thanks for the video first of all!
I am pretty new to Tekken and one mature problem I have is to press those "half-circle" or even "full circle" commands (f-df-d-db-b for example) using a pad. Do you have any tips how to input those commands more easily on a pad?
On a gamepad or traditional controller? I don't have experience with a gamepad, but for a regular DS4 or even XBO controller, I usually switch to the analog stick for QCB/F and HCB/F
Truthfully though, I don't have much success most of the time, lol. But I haven't really put in the practice time necessary to become proficient in it.
On a traditional DS4. I tried using the stick too, but I don't feel comfortable at all switching between stick and buttons. Even though it might be a thing of practice, it feels kind of clumsy and imprecise using the stick.
If trying to do qcf from 1p side of screen (left side), place the tip of your thumb on "down". Then do a quick but straight diagonal motion from "down" to "forward". The motion should look like when you're swiping a straight line from the bottom left of your phone to the top right. Also, make sure your thumb gets to "forward" before inputting any attack button. Same thing applies to qcb motion
First try to get the hang of doing qcf and qcb motions from neutral stance. After that you can then try doing it during other stuff like combos, after sidesteps or after back dashes etc. For these situations you gotta be aware that recovery animations of attacks can mess up your timing. However, there's a "show recovery animation" option in the training lab that might be helpful with that.
Nice Sonic Colours soundtrack
I got an Xbox series 2 controller and I can rebind all button to my 4 paddles, bumpers and triggers. I can still just use my thumb to press 3+4 or 1+3 with no problem though.
I’m 50/50 I hold my controller like the same way but twist to the left. My left thumb controls the d-pad, and my index and middle finger controls the attack buttons and I placed the controller on the right thigh to play tekken
There are quite a lot of high level players these days who play just fine with thumb technique. I think tk_anakin for example is one. He can play with stick too, but uses a pad in tournaments.
this is not true. if you are using your thumb on the controller just assign L2 as 13 L1 as 34 R1 as 24 and R2 as 12. That's how I play for years. I play in the gold ranks so it does work. Rolling death cradle is a breeze with this setup. Only 14 and 23 need you to quickly use your fingers but you can easily transition to your fingers and back to your thumb with little practice.
Tony Cutillo we have the same mindset because I assigns my controller the same way
ho man! this helps so much!!!! thanks a lot!
I'm pretty sure for Xbox players the buttons are way closer together so I have no problem playing with my thumb, Idk how hard it would be on a duelshock
I’ve been doing that since i played tekken in psp🤣