FrameWhisperer Tekken Will you be doing a vid on how to backdash on a control pad? Also, do you prefer stick or pad? And what's the benefit of owning a stick alongside a pad? I imagine it'll help when you go to arcades. I live in London where arcades are dying if not already dead...
@@FrameWhisperer lol bro these dudes have to figure out themselves there is also no one saying them how to breath... u also figured it out byurself...right? Prople dumb lmao this dudes will never go out of fujin just bc they dont "want" to😅🤣😂
A better tip in my opinion to play on pad is to use the triggers as multiples, for example: R1 = 1+2 R2 = 3+4 L1 = 1+4 L2 = 2+3 This means you can have fingers on all the buttons ready to go. 1+3 & 2+4 can just be done by you think. And doing 1+2+3+4 means you can just press R1+R2 L1+L2
@@CYAN_TOP_HAT you could assign the tag button to a stick click like R3 or L3, or you could just replace whatever the 3+4 binding is and just do that input manually by placing your thumb between the buttons to press them at the same time since theyre at the bottom of the controller and you wont accidentally hit other buttons, like how you might by trying to manually input 1+2 with your thumb
you dont need to play claw, you can just remap combined Button inputs to the shoulder Buttons. for example i have ot set so that 1+2 is L1, 1+3 is L2, 2+4 is R1, 3+4 is R2 and even 1+4 is L3 (the Left analog stick) and 2+4 is R3 (the right analog stick). pressing the face buttons with your thumb is no problem, only a few strings in the game require the two fingers, the only one i can think of is Steve's machine gun blows (dont know the inputs). the only other slight problem is pressing the left analog stick because you need to to it with your right thumb because otherwise you wouldn't be able to input a direction. this method works completely fine, got to Grand Master with Miguel just fine, i can do the combos for every character i've practised without any problems etc
I have the available macros mapped too, but I feel like it complicates stuff like throw breaks a bit. cause normaly you need to worry about pressing 1, 2 or 1+2, that's two buttons, while if you map it you have to think about 3 buttons.
Good shit mate. Nobody understands how accurate the d-pad can be. Ideally, aside from the DS4, a really good and reliable (and sexy) device is Madcatz's Fightpad Pro, or maybe the Hori one, though I haven't personally used it.
Same here. I remember doing this claw grip sometimes as a kid, but I hadn't played Tekken in years and the newest one has highly customizable controls. So I'm fine with just holding the controller normally. If anything is giving me trouble, it's the d-pad, but only for some characters.
You mean they're shunned by idiots. If the game allows binding options, nobody has any business criticizing them. I even use the analog stick click as a binding.
Once you reassign cert button commands like 1+4 and 2+3 to bumpers or triggers. It’s not too hard after that. Allows you to keep your comfortable holding position that you’re used to
Definitely going to adopt this pad playing style you have shown. Feels surprisingly natural, and uses less energy. Helps that I am a fingerstyle bassist as well, so I have lots of stamina for the finger tapping approach. Definite increase in accuracy. As someone returning to the series for the first time since TT1 came out, this will be a big help. Thank you.
@@jesusmejia3417 I liked it fine. But I wasn't very good at it. And it would require a serious investment to get better. I didn't have time. Or desire. I'm a very casual gamer, and Tekken is rather competitive.
I appreciate the stick part, it was clear to me that you had made the necessary considerations when specifying the exact way you gripped the ball. Thanks!!
I have always struggled to get comfortable using my stick with Tekken so I've mostly played pad. But this showed me a new way of moving with the stick that I am going to try out
I use the Xbox One Elite controller, its actually solid for Tekken; - You can remove both thumbsticks - You can use back paddles for tricky inputs (1+4, 2+3) if you desire instead of triggers - You can swap out the default 4 way d-pad with an 8-way d-pad, super good for Tekken (as far as controllers go) - If you do want to use sticks instead of d-pad, you can actually put longer ones on which make it easier than the default shorty ones - A,B,X,Y are closer together than the PS4 equivilent, meaning you can actually hit 1+2 and 3+4 easier than on PS4 controller, also the buttons are firm and not squishy like the PS4.
I bought a controller today, the Logitech F310 since that's what I can afford, realised I had no clue on how to use it properly lol since I never got to play with a console (except for the PSP). Your video gave me a lot of clarity and I kinda like holding it in that claw grip position. A lot of comments mention their bindings so I'll experiment with that too. Thanks for this video!
Oh man, I've been using my stick wrong for 7 years, this is gonna be a pain to unlearn but I know that it will be worth it because my execution improved so much when I used it your way.
I've actually been doing this since I was little like 8. Not even cause it's the right way, I've done it cause its actually always been comfortable for me and I still do it this way
Same, I developed this style over time just playing Tekken a lot over the years but I'm a complete casual at the game(s) Interesting it turns out to be the optimal recommendation
Great vid for new tekken players. But like a lot of old school ps players I also use 2 thumbs and 2 fingers on the controller and just remap 2 button combos to the shoulder buttons. T7 also lets you map L3 and R3. Just set it up for ease of use depending on the characters you play. My setup goes: 1+2 = R1 3+4 = R2 1+4 = L1 2+3 = L2 1+3 = R3 2+4 = L3
Graveyard Shift Streams Same as my buttons. I play yoshi and brian and i dont have any trouble. I definitely used to play claw when i would play older tekkens. No problems in T7 tho
I've found myself switching between the normal hold and the claw grip ever since i was like 5 when playing tekken 3 ^^ But one of the things I'd recomend as well is to go into the controller config and set the trigger buttons to the two button setting. Like for example I have L1 And L2 as Square Circle and Triangle X. And then R1 and R2 as doubble punch and doubble kick. The claw grip is defenatly better but this is at least a solution untill the brain starts adapting to the claw. Hope it helped someone. Och för att svara på din fråga ja jag är noob xD
I play on stick, and for the attack buttons, I have rebound the O input onto the stick's R1 button. This allows me to use my thumb on X, and the next three fingers on square, triangle, and O, which means none of my fingers ever has to move, it just has to either press its button or not.
Honestly, I've used thumb grip for years. And I do pretty fine. I bind some extra inputs into the bumpers and stick click. And it pretty much covers almost all the characters. Although I am considering using the claw grip for when I play Panda. The only problem for me with a pad is that the d-pad gets worned out crazy fast at times. Like, I do half circle back to forward. And suddenly the pad skips some inputs and goes, you went forward to down forward, to back to forward. And then nothing comes out. :L Really annoying when that happens. Too easy wear and tear.
I think it's kinda funny that so many people come to the same conclusion. I came here to see if there were other methods of holding the controller. Apparently the way I hold it (and people that don't play Tekken a lot mock me for) is considered to be normal among Tekken players.
I just swap 2nd button with 3rd button and use combinations with my thumb with no problems. This set up is changing your buttons diagonal from / to \ and it's easier to use with thumb, it's like it was on sega controllers when i played MK3 where were xyz(x = high punch z = high kick) and abc (a = low punch c = low kick) buttons . Best settings for me.
7 years I've been playing with stick but I've noticed that my directional inputs get all over the place if the arcade stick lies on my lap just a little bit different than usual. I'll try this method and see if it helps with that problem, thanks for the video!
I've been using thumb since Tekken 3. I just need 1+ 4 and 3+ 2 binding. I'm tryng claw grip: It is very nice for 1 + 2 but it is very hard for me to do 3 ~ 1 or 4 ~ 2 . Should I use one or two fingers for those ?
I personally have a very uncommon grip of my stick. I basically turn my hand palm up and squeeze the ball of the controller between the two finger on the middle of my hand. Then I just close my hand around it (with my thumb on top) and manipulate it like that. I know it's strange but I've always been playing like this since I'm a kid and this is, by far, the way that feels the most comfortable for me.
I've been playing with my thumb for weeks when I started to pick this game up more seriously and I do fairly well, i just use the L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, buttons for multi button moves. You can fat finger some inputs with your thumb but you can only practically do 1+3 and 2+4. This was a good video but I don't feel that playing with your thumb is as impractical as you make it out to be, you just have to be willing to learn bindings you make for yourself that are up on the bumpers and triggers and clicking the control sticks.
I agree, playing with the thumb can work okay. It also depends on the controller. With mine I can consistently press 2 kick buttons or 2 punch buttons at the same time. It probably depends on a person's fingers and thumbs too. I think with larger hands a claw grip would be more awkward feeling.
On the PS1, I used the back buttons but also claw gripped for some moves (1+4 & 2+3). But claw grip is bad because of RSI so now I use L1=1+4, R1=2+3, L2=3+4, R2=1+2 and R3=rage, and I just use my thumb for 1+3 and 2+4, but I'm trying to not rely on throws these days.
Well.. im playing tekken since tekken 4 and i never ever used arcade stick or other game pads only the basic Duelshock controller, and i played Bruce on tekken 6, bruce+Jinpachi in tekken tag 2 and now im playing yoshi on tekken 7, all in a pretty good level i think. How i do that? i simply holding my controller the same as i will hold it on any other game, and on the controller setup i edit R1 to be LK+RK, R2 to be LP+RP, L1 is my Rage Art and the L2 button change with the character i play... now lets say you have a move that use 3 buttons at ones? like 1+2+3 for yoshimitsu Spirit Shield - you simply press R2 which is 1+2 and add it the 3 so it would be R2+3.. yes i know tekken meant to be an arcade game so i understand that with an arcade stick it should be way easier to play, but playing with a simple controller its far from impossible and there is no need the change the way you holding the controller. By the way - sorry for the negativity, and thanks for the video i hope it would help people and may we all meet on EVO some day ;)
tal mizrahi not trying to be rude, but how do you know that you're at a good level? Are you able to easily space yourself and comfortably fish for whiff punishes? are you consistently and habitually backdash canceling? are you punishing everything you block with the correct punish? (using a 13 frame punish because you know the move that you just blocked leaves them at -13) I think if you are capable of doing all of this stuff then you can be considered on a good level.
Nine Well there is always more to learn and to practice.. what i wanted to say was that there is no such a thing as "impossible" and there is no need to change the way you holding your controller.. my rank with yoshi is a Marauder and im play the same as i will play in any other game
Hmm, Marauder is low and cannot be considered anywhere near a 'good' level, but Tekken is a game with a near limitless skill ceiling so you (and anyone else still stuck down in green ranks) can only improve!
Binding is fine but 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+3, 2+4 and 3+4 would all need to be bound for this to work overall, I'm not sure there are enough buttons to make that happen? If it works for the character you main that's fine, but it will probably feel awkward to switch characters in the future. Also, the option does not exist if you should ever be in an arcade, although I know that does not happen for most people. Thanks for your questions!
Just got the game and have not played a fighting game since Tekken 4 on ps2. Got My ass kicked in the first campaign chapter. But will try this and find out what characters I like at the same time.
I switch between using the claw grip in both sides(controller rests on my lap) and one side like you showed.I usually don't hug the controller with my thumb pinky on the right side.
I'm getting back into gaming. I tried but I don't like the analog sticks on the modern controllers. I'm used to the NES D pad controllers (yes, I'm showing my age) Do they have controllers with D pads that have 360 movement? Do they have accessories where you can convert your analog stick into a D pad like feel?
I know this is an old video but for anyone new you can grip the controller the more intuitive way. can bind 1+4 and 2+3 on the right triggers. I do this and how no issues.
I actually grip my controller as normal, but I rebind the punch to the two shoulder buttons, that way I have a finger for each punch and my tump for the 2 kicks. I also rebind some multi input buttons. I'm doing fine so far.
You're the bast! I've been struggling a lot to get the back dash right, but I'm finally getting the hang of it since I watched your video. Thanks alot!
for all newcomers program 1+2 / 1+3/ 1+4 / rage art to the shoulder buttons you will get better at the game and I play Ling,Nina,Asuka & Lucky chole the shoulder buttons helps air juggle a lot
Great idea. Especially makes rage arts easy after a dash or run. I would personally be careful not to get too dependent on it in the long run, just in case you do not have access to the bind feature in the future.
^ Exactly what FrameWhisperer said. I personally think this is a bad idea, and speak from experience. I used shoulder buttons in T6 and for some time in TTT2 and got so reliant on them up to the point that I could barely play without them. Back when TTT2 just came out, I joined a local tournament and couldn't even pull off my staple juggles because extra binds weren't allowed. Needless to say I got annihilated. I think it's best to just tough it out and learn it the proper way. This way the correct inputs needed will also register in your head. With T7 I decided I wouldn't bind anything, not even RA (even though it's bound by default) and I feel like I'm a much better player these days.
Not have access to binding in the future? It's been in the franchise since the very first Tekken - it's not going anywhere lol. And any tournament that allows controllers will also allow the buttons to be configured. This is to somewhat level the playing field so stick users don't have natural advantages (being able to hit 1+2, 1+4, etc consistently and not getting hand cramp from the claw grip).
I think I have more problems with my left hand. Only after a short while, the area below my thumb starts hurting like hell. I´ve only played this game once yet, but that concerns me. I played with the D-Pad. Shall I switch to the analog stick? Or what´s the solution here?
I want to get a fighting stick, but all the good fighting sticks seem to be very expensive. Does anyone know, which foghting stick I could buy for about 30€? I live in Germany, so it needs to be available in Europe.
Tried playing with claw grip, but i ended up making my hand ache all the time. Played with right thumb for as long as i can remember. Thing is, I play Claudio, and having 1+2 and 3+4 binded, makes it so I have no problems getting off his moves regardless. Should probably try just adapting to claw anyways, but idk
If you can play fine with the thumbs that's great. Your hands will probably not ache if you get used to it, but obv. you should never hurt yourself for a game!
Same situation here. I have always played with my thumb but the limitations of that were immediately apparent. This led me to bind stuff to shoulder buttons for a long time but I've gotten rid of that now as well. I've thought of the claw grip before, after seeing some people holding the controller that way on tournament videos, but could never quite get used to it myself. My wrist starts hurting rather quickly and it just feels... wrong. I've stuck to thumb for now because somehow I've managed to get pretty good at it. I play Alisa and her execution is pretty simple and rarely needs any quick diagonal inputs, so it's kinda worked out, but I still wonder if I could progress faster if I learned to use claw. I'm sure it's just a matter of practice, but it's just weird to switch and be worse for a while.
It's playable on analogue stick ... All fighting games are playable on analogue stick but analogue stick is made for action/adventure or racing games in mind... Because all analogue sticks have a dead zone the other thing is travel distance and all these features make analogue stick not so great for fighting games... D-PAD is much faster and responsive for fighting games....
I use the claw grip on the ps4 controller and my younger brother uses the standard grip and he still pulls off faster combos than me then again he has a DMC background so....
when i first started playing i was doing the normal grip, and the longer i played it just happened that i do the claw grip already, i only searched for a video on how to grip properly to see if what i do is normal
you can program inputs into other buttens too make it easier on a ps4 controller. For example 1+2 can be programed into L2 and 3+4 can be programed into R2. also you can program 1+3 and 2+4 too L1 and R1.
The only reason to play with the clae in my experience is the "~" moves. I.e. Xiaoyu's 3~4 sommersault, and her AoP 3~4 scissor kick. To do these I just quickly sweep my thumb over O and X, but it might be a little tough to do traditionally out the gates.
I'm at TGP the highest rank in the game. You do not need to hold the controller in this weird claw position. Hold it like a normal person. If you want to know my layout I'd be happy to give it to you. There are small limitations for holding the controller normally (4 shoulder buttons is not enough), but it's not a big deal.
@@trilfy can you help me? i’ve read some comments saying that claw is better and other ones said that you should mix two buttons as one R1 R2 L1 L2, i’m confused.
Defo important to learn to play without binding buttons. I didn't even think about them taking away the binding option, my fear is going to someone's house to play a tournament and them telling me I can't bind... So playing with both methods is useful to know.
I specifically looked for those combinations and couldn't find any information. I wish he demonstrated possible sample combinations. Still great guide though.
I only just started playing tekken on pad and I'm having trouble doing the d/b command reliably (and am having trouble learning bdc because of it). Is this something that's more difficult with pad or do I just need more practice? P.S. your videos have been a great help.
not really, it's just a different control scheme. I played pad a little for Tekken then switched to arcade stick because it felt more fun to me. but pad is definitely viable, plenty of western top tourny players use pad
coold vid! I use claw grip except I use my thumb and index to hit the buttons, this is so I could still press the triggers with my index. I made this a habit while playing call of duty as a kid because you need to shoot while jumping or ducking and stuff. It's working out fine except I'm tempted to bind 1+3 and 2+4 to my triggers because I can't press them at the same time consistently for some reason...Is this a scrubish thing to do? kinda feels like I'm cheating by using the triggers but its honestly the only consistent approach. Also wondering if its allowed in tournaments because I don't wanna make a bad habit of it if I cant do it
I used to just map 1 to L1, 2 to R1, 3 to L2, 4 to R2, so i gave up on that cuz i dont wanna bully my brother too hard and tried the pad buttons aka claw grip and both works fine honestly just up to preferemce and u need to build muscle memory over time thats all
just stumbled on this to day but, i really though this was common sense, i have laid controller over my thigh and gripping with left so its doesnt wobble. using two fingers for input and three with king since graple combo need 123 input :D just realized few days ago when i was playing in couch group that one new guy actually tried to use the controller like u normally would :'D
well the 1st grip for the pad is surely efficient but really taxing for your hand and that can cause u carpel tunnel so you should not use it often or a sugest to just not use it really taxing is up to you to use it
I used to normal holding since Tekken 3 in ps1 till now. There is no one only correct holding for pad controller in Tekken as you said it is according to what the person used to.
With all respect, I strongly believe, this video is misleading for the people who use DualShock controller. I use pad and I hold it normally and I am able to do everything you can possibly think of Korean back dash, S+ Combos, forward dash, side dashes etc and all it takes is practice. I have been practicing for 8 months now and I play Yoshi and I can do everything with that character. Highest rank I have achieved is Vanquisher (I do not play ranked matches that much), but I can surely reach overload in no time if I will play more ranked matches I believe. In summary, you do not have to hold your DualShock control in some weird way to get good at the game. Practice is all it takes. A lot of Kasua players use and hold the pad normally. There are some videos on youtube as well. All it takes is practice. PS: I have tried different controllers and believe DualShock is simple and the best.
I just hold the controller normally, mostly using my right thumb. No rebinding stuff to shoulder buttons. Occasionally I'll use two fingers for the fancier stuff, but I always switch back to using my thumb after a second or two. I'm an orange level player but my execution is worse than anyone I run into and probably worse than many beginners, too. Always a crapshoot if pushing two buttons at once is gonna work. I'd probably do better if I adapted, but the grip is so comfy...
Good question mate. No, korean backdashing is done only with the left hand and does not involve the attack buttons. On pad you do it using only your tumb. No key binds.
bruv..i play bryan on pad..i use r1 as grab wicth is also my punch parry bind ...and r1 plus 4 is my TAUNT...i dont see any good way to play bryan on pad using the claw in stead of thumbing it....bonus note..i use the thmb even for TILDE imputs...like a bawss
i wish i could like this video thousand times more. Thanks really loved it. 😊😊😊
Glad it helped!
FrameWhisperer Tekken Will you be doing a vid on how to backdash on a control pad? Also, do you prefer stick or pad? And what's the benefit of owning a stick alongside a pad? I imagine it'll help when you go to arcades. I live in London where arcades are dying if not already dead...
FrameWhisperer Tekken what about the hitbox great video all in all.
I agree this guy is dope, he made my training in tekken much more smooth.
@@FrameWhisperer lol bro these dudes have to figure out themselves there is also no one saying them how to breath... u also figured it out byurself...right? Prople dumb lmao this dudes will never go out of fujin just bc they dont "want" to😅🤣😂
A better tip in my opinion to play on pad is to use the triggers as multiples, for example:
R1 = 1+2
R2 = 3+4
L1 = 1+4
L2 = 2+3
This means you can have fingers on all the buttons ready to go. 1+3 & 2+4 can just be done by you think. And doing 1+2+3+4 means you can just press R1+R2 L1+L2
This is my exact bindings
I was wondering where he was gonna mention binds lol
what about tag 2
@@CYAN_TOP_HAT you could assign the tag button to a stick click like R3 or L3, or you could just replace whatever the 3+4 binding is and just do that input manually by placing your thumb between the buttons to press them at the same time since theyre at the bottom of the controller and you wont accidentally hit other buttons, like how you might by trying to manually input 1+2 with your thumb
Bruh please give me your whatsapp number or instagram please i have problem in controlls in TTT2 😢
you dont need to play claw, you can just remap combined Button inputs to the shoulder Buttons. for example i have ot set so that 1+2 is L1, 1+3 is L2, 2+4 is R1, 3+4 is R2 and even 1+4 is L3 (the Left analog stick) and 2+4 is R3 (the right analog stick). pressing the face buttons with your thumb is no problem, only a few strings in the game require the two fingers, the only one i can think of is Steve's machine gun blows (dont know the inputs). the only other slight problem is pressing the left analog stick because you need to to it with your right thumb because otherwise you wouldn't be able to input a direction.
this method works completely fine, got to Grand Master with Miguel just fine, i can do the combos for every character i've practised without any problems etc
TheHartmann I'm not using the claw too and I'm Vanquisher ^^
I have the available macros mapped too, but I feel like it complicates stuff like throw breaks a bit. cause normaly you need to worry about pressing 1, 2 or 1+2, that's two buttons, while if you map it you have to think about 3 buttons.
TheHartmann same man i just find stick more fun to play
Good shit mate. Nobody understands how accurate the d-pad can be. Ideally, aside from the DS4, a really good and reliable (and sexy) device is Madcatz's Fightpad Pro, or maybe the Hori one, though I haven't personally used it.
Playing since Tekken 3 required PlayStation users to play claw
Habits die hard :/
I just rebind relevant/difficult multi button inputs to bumpers depending on characters, great video.
Thanks!
Same here. I remember doing this claw grip sometimes as a kid, but I hadn't played Tekken in years and the newest one has highly customizable controls. So I'm fine with just holding the controller normally. If anything is giving me trouble, it's the d-pad, but only for some characters.
Shoulder buttons are shunned by the community
You mean they're shunned by idiots. If the game allows binding options, nobody has any business criticizing them. I even use the analog stick click as a binding.
armagedonbe I bet ur light blue ranks HAHAH.
Once you reassign cert button commands like 1+4 and 2+3 to bumpers or triggers. It’s not too hard after that. Allows you to keep your comfortable holding position that you’re used to
Definitely going to adopt this pad playing style you have shown. Feels surprisingly natural, and uses less energy. Helps that I am a fingerstyle bassist as well, so I have lots of stamina for the finger tapping approach. Definite increase in accuracy. As someone returning to the series for the first time since TT1 came out, this will be a big help. Thank you.
Hows your progress, hope your having fun in T7 (besides the kuni dlc cuz kuni makes me suffer)
Because of this video I decided to give Tekken another try. I can't thank you enough.
Do you still play it?
@@jesusmejia3417 Nope.
@@niedomyty00 sl You didn't like it?
@@jesusmejia3417 I liked it fine. But I wasn't very good at it. And it would require a serious investment to get better. I didn't have time. Or desire. I'm a very casual gamer, and Tekken is rather competitive.
This video is incredibly enlightening. Thank you
My pleasure!
I appreciate the stick part, it was clear to me that you had made the necessary considerations when specifying the exact way you gripped the ball. Thanks!!
I have always struggled to get comfortable using my stick with Tekken so I've mostly played pad. But this showed me a new way of moving with the stick that I am going to try out
People still need this video in 2019
Thank you so much
I use the Xbox One Elite controller, its actually solid for Tekken;
- You can remove both thumbsticks
- You can use back paddles for tricky inputs (1+4, 2+3) if you desire instead of triggers
- You can swap out the default 4 way d-pad with an 8-way d-pad, super good for Tekken (as far as controllers go)
- If you do want to use sticks instead of d-pad, you can actually put longer ones on which make it easier than the default shorty ones
- A,B,X,Y are closer together than the PS4 equivilent, meaning you can actually hit 1+2 and 3+4 easier than on PS4 controller, also the buttons are firm and not squishy like the PS4.
this is true
I bought a controller today, the Logitech F310 since that's what I can afford, realised I had no clue on how to use it properly lol since I never got to play with a console (except for the PSP). Your video gave me a lot of clarity and I kinda like holding it in that claw grip position. A lot of comments mention their bindings so I'll experiment with that too. Thanks for this video!
I'm searching for video on how to hold the PS4 controller when playing Tekken and I found this video. Thumbs up.
Glad you liked it!
Oh man, I've been using my stick wrong for 7 years, this is gonna be a pain to unlearn but I know that it will be worth it because my execution improved so much when I used it your way.
This video needs to be liked a million times over...i never even knew about claw grip...i think this will elevate my play alot...thanks a ton!!!
Happy to hear it!
I've actually been doing this since I was little like 8. Not even cause it's the right way, I've done it cause its actually always been comfortable for me and I still do it this way
Same, I developed this style over time just playing Tekken a lot over the years but I'm a complete casual at the game(s)
Interesting it turns out to be the optimal recommendation
Great vid for new tekken players. But like a lot of old school ps players I also use 2 thumbs and 2 fingers on the controller and just remap 2 button combos to the shoulder buttons. T7 also lets you map L3 and R3. Just set it up for ease of use depending on the characters you play. My setup goes:
1+2 = R1
3+4 = R2
1+4 = L1
2+3 = L2
1+3 = R3
2+4 = L3
Whatever works! Comfort is key!
Graveyard Shift Streams Same as my buttons. I play yoshi and brian and i dont have any trouble. I definitely used to play claw when i would play older tekkens. No problems in T7 tho
What bout your rage art
@2tuffdae i just do the move. Its usually a direction + a shoulder button.
Never ever heard aboud the claw grip!
The camera placement made me a bit dizzy don know why but good vid though understood everything nicely
I've found myself switching between the normal hold and the claw grip ever since i was like 5 when playing tekken 3 ^^ But one of the things I'd recomend as well is to go into the controller config and set the trigger buttons to the two button setting. Like for example I have L1 And L2 as Square Circle and Triangle X. And then R1 and R2 as doubble punch and doubble kick.
The claw grip is defenatly better but this is at least a solution untill the brain starts adapting to the claw. Hope it helped someone.
Och för att svara på din fråga ja jag är noob xD
I Just rebinded
1+2/3+4 to R1/R2,
1+4/2+3 to L1/L2.
That works perfectly for me.
I play on stick, and for the attack buttons, I have rebound the O input onto the stick's R1 button. This allows me to use my thumb on X, and the next three fingers on square, triangle, and O, which means none of my fingers ever has to move, it just has to either press its button or not.
Honestly, I've used thumb grip for years. And I do pretty fine. I bind some extra inputs into the bumpers and stick click. And it pretty much covers almost all the characters. Although I am considering using the claw grip for when I play Panda. The only problem for me with a pad is that the d-pad gets worned out crazy fast at times. Like, I do half circle back to forward. And suddenly the pad skips some inputs and goes, you went forward to down forward, to back to forward. And then nothing comes out. :L Really annoying when that happens. Too easy wear and tear.
I think it's kinda funny that so many people come to the same conclusion. I came here to see if there were other methods of holding the controller.
Apparently the way I hold it (and people that don't play Tekken a lot mock me for) is considered to be normal among Tekken players.
I just swap 2nd button with 3rd button and use combinations with my thumb with no problems. This set up is changing your buttons diagonal from / to \ and it's easier to use with thumb, it's like it was on sega controllers when i played MK3 where were xyz(x = high punch z = high kick) and abc (a = low punch c = low kick) buttons . Best settings for me.
7 years I've been playing with stick but I've noticed that my directional inputs get all over the place if the arcade stick lies on my lap just a little bit different than usual. I'll try this method and see if it helps with that problem, thanks for the video!
I've been using thumb since Tekken 3. I just need 1+ 4 and 3+ 2 binding. I'm tryng claw grip: It is very nice for 1 + 2 but it is very hard for me to do 3 ~ 1 or 4 ~ 2 . Should I use one or two fingers for those ?
I personally have a very uncommon grip of my stick. I basically turn my hand palm up and squeeze the ball of the controller between the two finger on the middle of my hand. Then I just close my hand around it (with my thumb on top) and manipulate it like that.
I know it's strange but I've always been playing like this since I'm a kid and this is, by far, the way that feels the most comfortable for me.
Im doing this for 5 min and bc of early cod days I was doing this new claw grip. Good tutorial man thanks alot. I was using my thumb. Thumbs are dumb.
Thank you so much my guy it was so close in my mind but I couldn’t properly put it together till now
I've been playing with my thumb for weeks when I started to pick this game up more seriously and I do fairly well, i just use the L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, buttons for multi button moves. You can fat finger some inputs with your thumb but you can only practically do 1+3 and 2+4. This was a good video but I don't feel that playing with your thumb is as impractical as you make it out to be, you just have to be willing to learn bindings you make for yourself that are up on the bumpers and triggers and clicking the control sticks.
I agree, playing with the thumb can work okay. It also depends on the controller. With mine I can consistently press 2 kick buttons or 2 punch buttons at the same time. It probably depends on a person's fingers and thumbs too. I think with larger hands a claw grip would be more awkward feeling.
On the PS1, I used the back buttons but also claw gripped for some moves (1+4 & 2+3). But claw grip is bad because of RSI so now I use L1=1+4, R1=2+3, L2=3+4, R2=1+2 and R3=rage, and I just use my thumb for 1+3 and 2+4, but I'm trying to not rely on throws these days.
thankyou for this! I''m gonna try it! Was having a though times breaking throws😅😅
thats exactly how i have always played tekken, i just instinctively started grabbing it like that, it just makes sense
Well.. im playing tekken since tekken 4 and i never ever used arcade stick or other game pads only the basic Duelshock controller, and i played Bruce on tekken 6, bruce+Jinpachi in tekken tag 2 and now im playing yoshi on tekken 7, all in a pretty good level i think. How i do that? i simply holding my controller the same as i will hold it on any other game, and on the controller setup i edit R1 to be LK+RK, R2 to be LP+RP, L1 is my Rage Art and the L2 button change with the character i play...
now lets say you have a move that use 3 buttons at ones? like 1+2+3 for yoshimitsu Spirit Shield - you simply press R2 which is 1+2 and add it the 3 so it would be R2+3..
yes i know tekken meant to be an arcade game so i understand that with an arcade stick it should be way easier to play, but playing with a simple controller its far from impossible and there is no need the change the way you holding the controller.
By the way - sorry for the negativity, and thanks for the video i hope it would help people and may we all meet on EVO some day ;)
tal mizrahi not trying to be rude, but how do you know that you're at a good level? Are you able to easily space yourself and comfortably fish for whiff punishes? are you consistently and habitually backdash canceling? are you punishing everything you block with the correct punish? (using a 13 frame punish because you know the move that you just blocked leaves them at -13) I think if you are capable of doing all of this stuff then you can be considered on a good level.
Nine Well there is always more to learn and to practice.. what i wanted to say was that there is no such a thing as "impossible" and there is no need to change the way you holding your controller.. my rank with yoshi is a Marauder
and im play the same as i will play in any other game
Hmm, Marauder is low and cannot be considered anywhere near a 'good' level, but Tekken is a game with a near limitless skill ceiling so you (and anyone else still stuck down in green ranks) can only improve!
Binding is fine but 1+2, 1+3, 1+4, 2+3, 2+4 and 3+4 would all need to be bound for this to work overall, I'm not sure there are enough buttons to make that happen? If it works for the character you main that's fine, but it will probably feel awkward to switch characters in the future. Also, the option does not exist if you should ever be in an arcade, although I know that does not happen for most people. Thanks for your questions!
@@FrameWhisperer actually there's 6 button where you can bind, so yes it's possible.
Just got the game and have not played a fighting game since Tekken 4 on ps2. Got My ass kicked in the first campaign chapter. But will try this and find out what characters I like at the same time.
Shoulder binds are perfectly valid as well, probably better for more casual players.
Totally, it's a good idea for rage arts and such.
When I need to do 1+2 or something like that i simply making the R2 button but great video tho
I switch between using the claw grip in both sides(controller rests on my lap) and one side like you showed.I usually don't hug the controller with my thumb pinky on the right side.
I'm getting back into gaming. I tried but I don't like the analog sticks on the modern controllers. I'm used to the NES D pad controllers (yes, I'm showing my age) Do they have controllers with D pads that have 360 movement? Do they have accessories where you can convert your analog stick into a D pad like feel?
I know this is an old video but for anyone new you can grip the controller the more intuitive way. can bind 1+4 and 2+3 on the right triggers. I do this and how no issues.
Watching this for tekken 5 :)
Which restrictor gate would you recommend for sanwa stick
I kinda just use this:
R1: Rage Art
R2: 1+2
R3: 1+4
L1: 1+2+3+4
L2: 3+4
L3: 2+3
L2 1+2 for me
Lol L3 u wont use... ive there ki charge button and r3 2 3 for jins throw
Ive tried claw and some of my imputs do get easier yet its so hard to learn this style maybe i should just stick with it for a while.
Did you get better?
I actually grip my controller as normal, but I rebind the punch to the two shoulder buttons, that way I have a finger for each punch and my tump for the 2 kicks. I also rebind some multi input buttons. I'm doing fine so far.
actually smart
You're the bast! I've been struggling a lot to get the back dash right, but I'm finally getting the hang of it since I watched your video. Thanks alot!
Hey thanks a lot man good luck with the game!
Is that aquarium park theme song playing in the background?
You bet. I'm a huge Sonic fan.
for all newcomers program 1+2 / 1+3/ 1+4 / rage art to the shoulder buttons
you will get better at the game
and I play Ling,Nina,Asuka & Lucky chole
the shoulder buttons helps air juggle a lot
Great idea. Especially makes rage arts easy after a dash or run. I would personally be careful not to get too dependent on it in the long run, just in case you do not have access to the bind feature in the future.
^ Exactly what FrameWhisperer said. I personally think this is a bad idea, and speak from experience. I used shoulder buttons in T6 and for some time in TTT2 and got so reliant on them up to the point that I could barely play without them. Back when TTT2 just came out, I joined a local tournament and couldn't even pull off my staple juggles because extra binds weren't allowed. Needless to say I got annihilated. I think it's best to just tough it out and learn it the proper way. This way the correct inputs needed will also register in your head. With T7 I decided I wouldn't bind anything, not even RA (even though it's bound by default) and I feel like I'm a much better player these days.
Not have access to binding in the future? It's been in the franchise since the very first Tekken - it's not going anywhere lol.
And any tournament that allows controllers will also allow the buttons to be configured. This is to somewhat level the playing field so stick users don't have natural advantages (being able to hit 1+2, 1+4, etc consistently and not getting hand cramp from the claw grip).
I think I have more problems with my left hand. Only after a short while, the area below my thumb starts hurting like hell. I´ve only played this game once yet, but that concerns me. I played with the D-Pad. Shall I switch to the analog stick? Or what´s the solution here?
Plz My arcade stick has only six buttons It work in fight but i cant select any player,stage,or any option pllz help
I want to get a fighting stick, but all the good fighting sticks seem to be very expensive. Does anyone know, which foghting stick I could buy for about 30€? I live in Germany, so it needs to be available in Europe.
thank god you made this tutorial, thank so much bro!
How do you press 1+3 and 2+4 on a gamepad with your grip?
Square + x on the L1
Triangle + o on the r1
Square + triangle on L2
X + o on r2
Been using this since tekken 1
Exactly
I dunno why people dont think about it
Tried playing with claw grip, but i ended up making my hand ache all the time. Played with right thumb for as long as i can remember. Thing is, I play Claudio, and having 1+2 and 3+4 binded, makes it so I have no problems getting off his moves regardless.
Should probably try just adapting to claw anyways, but idk
If you can play fine with the thumbs that's great. Your hands will probably not ache if you get used to it, but obv. you should never hurt yourself for a game!
Same situation here. I have always played with my thumb but the limitations of that were immediately apparent. This led me to bind stuff to shoulder buttons for a long time but I've gotten rid of that now as well. I've thought of the claw grip before, after seeing some people holding the controller that way on tournament videos, but could never quite get used to it myself. My wrist starts hurting rather quickly and it just feels... wrong. I've stuck to thumb for now because somehow I've managed to get pretty good at it. I play Alisa and her execution is pretty simple and rarely needs any quick diagonal inputs, so it's kinda worked out, but I still wonder if I could progress faster if I learned to use claw. I'm sure it's just a matter of practice, but it's just weird to switch and be worse for a while.
Stevekoelle just set the shoulder buttons to 1+2 and 3+4
Is this playable on analog stick?(DS4)My d-pad is busted atm.I wanted to know if i can move my character properly(sprinting ,dashing)
Thanks
mat17071995 It is really hard.
It's playable on analogue stick ... All fighting games are playable on analogue stick but analogue stick is made for action/adventure or racing games in mind... Because all analogue sticks have a dead zone the other thing is travel distance and all these features make analogue stick not so great for fighting games... D-PAD is much faster and responsive for fighting games....
I use the claw grip on the ps4 controller and my younger brother uses the standard grip and he still pulls off faster combos than me then again he has a DMC background so....
Dmc?
@@-godschild-5067 yeah Devil may cry....it's a hack and slash heavily based on fast paced combos...
So basically, never play Tekken on a controller, huh? Thanks for the tip!
Your opinions on Tekken are invalid and short sighted.
@@inkredibill6352 Agreed
Thanks frame. I was stuck with controllar
This really helped me man!
Keep up the good work
when i first started playing i was doing the normal grip, and the longer i played it just happened that i do the claw grip already, i only searched for a video on how to grip properly to see if what i do is normal
you can program inputs into other buttens too make it easier on a ps4 controller. For example 1+2 can be programed into L2 and 3+4 can be programed into R2. also you can program 1+3 and 2+4 too L1 and R1.
and 1+4 and 2+3 can be programed into L3 and R3
On pad I use my index, middle, thumb, and ring for 1, 2, 3, and 4 buttons respectively. I’m used to it so it never hurts.
Does this apply to the Xbox bois as well?
If I have a 1-2-3 combo, I do it with 2 fingers or add the third one?
What "part" of the thumb do you use to press the d-pad? The tip? Or the ball?
This video made me forget how I hold my controller
i use my tumb since and it works fine, it's hard to press 2+3 but you can just put it into the buttons on the back such as L1 L2 R1 or R2
Beautiful hands bruh
lol cheers!
The only reason to play with the clae in my experience is the "~" moves. I.e. Xiaoyu's 3~4 sommersault, and her AoP 3~4 scissor kick. To do these I just quickly sweep my thumb over O and X, but it might be a little tough to do traditionally out the gates.
That's funny because I've been holding my ps4 pad like this since tekken 6 but I never knew it was the proper way of holding it lol
I'm at TGP the highest rank in the game. You do not need to hold the controller in this weird claw position. Hold it like a normal person. If you want to know my layout I'd be happy to give it to you. There are small limitations for holding the controller normally (4 shoulder buttons is not enough), but it's not a big deal.
@@trilfy can you help me? i’ve read some comments saying that claw is better and other ones said that you should mix two buttons as one R1 R2 L1 L2, i’m confused.
Key bindings work just fine tbh. And you don't need to buffer or worry that you misinput 1+2 or such.
Thank you so much, this video help me a lot
Defo important to learn to play without binding buttons. I didn't even think about them taking away the binding option, my fear is going to someone's house to play a tournament and them telling me I can't bind... So playing with both methods is useful to know.
can you make a video with you playing with the claw grip on the dual shock? im still unsure how to use it, especially 1+3 and 2+4 moves
I specifically looked for those combinations and couldn't find any information. I wish he demonstrated possible sample combinations. Still great guide though.
@@armansavsaevcimen8233 rebind moves on the game put it on the bumpers and change your rage art input to r3 (click in the stick)
This looks pretty fun to learn
It's 2 years and I don't know that I'm using claw 😂
I only just started playing tekken on pad and I'm having trouble doing the d/b command reliably (and am having trouble learning bdc because of it). Is this something that's more difficult with pad or do I just need more practice?
P.S. your videos have been a great help.
I've only had Tekken for about 2 weeks I'm used to using the controller but I've always wanted to switch to fight stick is it worth it?
not really, it's just a different control scheme. I played pad a little for Tekken then switched to arcade stick because it felt more fun to me. but pad is definitely viable, plenty of western top tourny players use pad
If I play pad, my 1st four fingers are on the buttons and I get strange looks from everyone
you can use the other 2 bottoms on stick i use them for 1+3 and 2+4 if you buffer it makes it easier for stuff like RDC
i know this vid is over a year old and u might not reply, but for the ps4 controller, is it more effective to use the arrow buttons or the joystick?
The buttons no one uses the analog stick
Claw grip makes it way easier on games like KoF or GG. On SF you kind of need to hold it "classic way" due to the shoulder buttons
Lol, my friend thought me that when i bought the game. Hälsningar från Sverige!
Bra kompis du har! Tack!
Just remap triangle and circle to r1 and r2. There ya go you can do any multi-button inputs esier and more comfortable.
I do the same mate
And for the hint for people if you're trying to do + 1 + 2 + 3 whatever use the triggers or L1 or R1
coold vid! I use claw grip except I use my thumb and index to hit the buttons, this is so I could still press the triggers with my index. I made this a habit while playing call of duty as a kid because you need to shoot while jumping or ducking and stuff. It's working out fine except I'm tempted to bind 1+3 and 2+4 to my triggers because I can't press them at the same time consistently for some reason...Is this a scrubish thing to do? kinda feels like I'm cheating by using the triggers but its honestly the only consistent approach. Also wondering if its allowed in tournaments because I don't wanna make a bad habit of it if I cant do it
I’ve been doing that since i played tekken in psp🤣
Why not just twist thumb for the 1+2 and 3+4 inputs? Barely takes time and very effective.
I used to just map 1 to L1, 2 to R1, 3 to L2, 4 to R2, so i gave up on that cuz i dont wanna bully my brother too hard and tried the pad buttons aka claw grip and both works fine honestly just up to preferemce and u need to build muscle memory over time thats all
just stumbled on this to day but, i really though this was common sense, i have laid controller over my thigh and gripping with left so its doesnt wobble. using two fingers for input and three with king since graple combo need 123 input :D
just realized few days ago when i was playing in couch group that one new guy actually tried to use the controller like u normally would :'D
well the 1st grip for the pad is surely efficient but really taxing for your hand and that can cause u carpel tunnel so you should not use it often or a sugest to just not use it really taxing is up to you to use it
You absolute legend
I used to normal holding since Tekken 3 in ps1 till now. There is no one only correct holding for pad controller in Tekken as you said it is according to what the person used to.
With all respect, I strongly believe, this video is misleading for the people who use DualShock controller. I use pad and I hold it normally and I am able to do everything you can possibly think of Korean back dash, S+ Combos, forward dash, side dashes etc and all it takes is practice. I have been practicing for 8 months now and I play Yoshi and I can do everything with that character. Highest rank I have achieved is Vanquisher (I do not play ranked matches that much), but I can surely reach overload in no time if I will play more ranked matches I believe.
In summary, you do not have to hold your DualShock control in some weird way to get good at the game. Practice is all it takes. A lot of Kasua players use and hold the pad normally. There are some videos on youtube as well. All it takes is practice.
PS: I have tried different controllers and believe DualShock is simple and the best.
I just hold the controller normally, mostly using my right thumb. No rebinding stuff to shoulder buttons. Occasionally I'll use two fingers for the fancier stuff, but I always switch back to using my thumb after a second or two. I'm an orange level player but my execution is worse than anyone I run into and probably worse than many beginners, too. Always a crapshoot if pushing two buttons at once is gonna work. I'd probably do better if I adapted, but the grip is so comfy...
Nice Sonic Colours soundtrack
how do I korean backdash on pad with this hold? Do i need to keybind something
Good question mate. No, korean backdashing is done only with the left hand and does not involve the attack buttons. On pad you do it using only your tumb. No key binds.
bruv..i play bryan on pad..i use r1 as grab wicth is also my punch parry bind ...and r1 plus 4 is my TAUNT...i dont see any good way to play bryan on pad using the claw in stead of thumbing it....bonus note..i use the thmb even for TILDE imputs...like a bawss
Good video bro! very helpful
Cheers!