I’m 71; studying international relations for 50 years, but I’m still learning it from Professor Norman Finkelstein. “American democracy is not the people’s democracy; it’s the democracy of money, donations, lobbies, and elites”, argued Professor Norman. Agreed.
I voted for Jill Stein in Georgia. First time in 40 years I didn't vote Democrat. Genocide was my red line. I just couldn't bring myself to vote for a genocide supporter candidate.
Activism against his guilt and trauma that he dealt with stemming from his experiences as an Airforce Pilot who dropped bombs indiscriminately on Targets that he felt wasn’t right. Most Military members follow Orders that they carry out but during the execution of theses Operations they can sense that they are doing the wrong thing but feel forced to continue, these feelings stay with these members forever, followed by many questions that point back to the original feeling that they were doing the wrong thing.
If Trump continues with the same actions, I hope you will wish the same for him too? Did you listen to his speech today, doubt much is going to change under Trump.
The system threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump and failed. Whatever happens was supposed to happen because nobody else would have survived that onslaught.
In my humble opinion, Trump is not America's Austrian; it is merely that, according to both candidates' corporate overlords, genocide is currently more profitable over peace in West Asia. Trump is not subverting a functioning democratic system, but the system itself was hijacked by corporate interests long ago and is currently functioning as intended.
I don’t think Biden picked her, and not for the purposes of sandbagging. His hand was forced to hand the baton. But I agree with the general assessment of her.
I voted Jimmy in 1976 , and Ronnie in 1980. After that , I became enlightened to futility and fraud of two party swindle, and voted third party ( ANY third party ) , ever since. "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman 'If Voting Made a Difference, They Wouldn't Let Us Do It'"- Mark Twain
According to Noam Chomsky, it was absolutely important to keep Trump, who he called a malignancy, from getting elected. This meant voting for Harris. Norman Finkelstein disagreed apparently. History will tell who's right.
And it is going to take forever because we keep inflicting more wounds on ourselves! I really don't have much hope that humanity is ever going to grow up and act like a mature human being.
No. It’s only when D and R win (& all more authoritarian parties/persons) that we lose. All wins by those less authoritarian than D or R are: *Wins for all.*
I disagree with Finkelstein on the real estate salesman analogy. I agree that real estate developers are into developing and building but I also think they are into destroying in order to develop and build.
I was thinking the same. I think he’s right about Trump’s instinct to build. Your point- what does the developer in Trump decide is worth demolishing in order to clear ground for new construction.
The truth is that unless those against war and genocide who may have or not voted for Trump keep fighting, escalating the cause for peace through security and development, then the situation will degenerate.
No system is perfect. It is not an indictment on the system. It is an indictment on the people ignorant enough to promote these types of characters. A society made of ignorant bullies will promote ignorant bullies to lead them.
Lol its not the system ??? What ????? So if you get 48% for Kamala and 50% for Trump and that will give AIPAC 98% votes this is on the voters not the system ??? You are so smart maybe you should be the president lol
Unfortunately that's all we the majority care about is the mere image of power(synonymous with money) and what real men look like...in the locker room.
Professor, on Utube, Trump was heard saying to Nutenyahoo " ... finish the job." This expression was with reference to the Palestinian people in Gaza. So, between the two candidates, whom should voters vote?
Yes he did! He also wants to execute [bring back the death penalty] for those that criticize genocide of innocent women and children. Trump lacks the ethics of conscience -- compassion for fellow man.
A system of checks and balances. But this time could be different, Norman. A black swan moment, wherein the old system is no match for the powers aligned against it. I hope you’re proven right, even while your use of the word “unpatriotic” gives me pause.
Yes. Irs a gerrymander machine thingy _ where voting is important _ .89% of one vote vs 1.11 vote plus for the funny person across the street _ every 10 votes is another vote
What do you mean by "Chomsky '"was'? Last I checked he was still alive? By the way - Brazil is a hot place and at his age and being of European heritage, I am not surprised Chomsky had a stroke.
this fella thinks too much of himself. heard the name...somewhere, before... agree with much of what he says... but KAMALA HARRIS IS NOT "STUPID"... she'd probably best him in some areas. The woman DID pass the California Bar to become a lawyer. And NO--I AM NOT A FAN OF MS. HARRIS. At all. Academia is full of these armchair pontificators. Much like guys who play Madden video football... and talk all kinds of smack about various players "sucking"...
No America has not spoken you need to get that through your head. Not everybody agrees with you even if he did win. I am not a trump supporter but I don't hate him I am hoping that he will do something good although I really don't hold out much hope for that actually happening.
@@johnpullen3729 That's very hurtful. 😂 At least I'm not shilling for Donald Trump while pretending to be a progressive, like the insufferable Finkelstein.
@@johnpullen3729 Says Trump would "probably be better on foreign policy." Says 'don't worry about Trump acting unlawfully or destroying Democracy--we have plenty of checks and balances." Praises Ramaswamy (the climate denier who says Trump and his Jan 6th thugs should all be pardoned) and Ron DeSantis, insisting they are are "VERY impressive. VERY VERY smart!" and constantly attacks Harris as an empty shell, (though her resume puts Finkelstein's completely to shame). He's also anti-BDS, was dead wrong on two states (as everyone told him decades ago), and basically has no clue what he's talking about.
I’m 71; studying international relations for 50 years, but I’m still learning it from Professor Norman Finkelstein. “American democracy is not the people’s democracy; it’s the democracy of money, donations, lobbies, and elites”, argued Professor Norman. Agreed.
I voted for Jill Stein in Georgia. First time in 40 years I didn't vote Democrat. Genocide was my red line. I just couldn't bring myself to vote for a genocide supporter candidate.
I voted for Stein too. As a Jew I could not support her continuing Joe's Genocide
Same . 💔dems need to learn- children: stop killing them, stop transing them.💔💔
And all the previous genocides committed by the US?
@@barbaralyons3978 Did you listen to Trump's speech today? Interesting, you should listen. I believe things will not change drastically under Trump.
@gailmo2279 that's why they voted for jill stein.
Norman is always speaking the truth. He is a honest man with integrity.
True. Americans needs to change the entire system. What a mockery of democracy.
Please read From Dictatorship to Democracy the book by Dr Gene Sharp
Love you Norman!
God Bless Norman to the moon and back
God bless Professor ❤
All this U.S. election amounts to is the rearranging of the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Oh I ❤ this!
Absolutely brilliantly put.
Thank you Norman and you speak for not all of us, but for many of us. Thank you for your brilliant mind, for truth and insight.
Why do you think that serviceman set himself on fire in front of the Israeli embassy?!
RIP Aaron Bushnell.. ✊✊✌
Activism against his guilt and trauma that he dealt with stemming from his experiences as an Airforce Pilot who dropped bombs indiscriminately on Targets that he felt wasn’t right.
Most Military members follow Orders that they carry out but during the execution of theses Operations they can sense that they are doing the wrong thing but feel forced to continue, these feelings stay with these members forever, followed by many questions that point back to the original feeling that they were doing the wrong thing.
Brilliant
Finkelstein spot on as usual!
Now 47 will pardon himself and his friends, wiping his arse with the constitution. Now he'll 'finish' the job in Palestine.
BIDEN HARRIS TWENTY YEARS IN PRISON IS TOO LENIENT. Thats what I want to vote for.
How about Bush and Obama?
@@chriss2452yeah what about bush and Obama and the Clinton’s? What about the cia? Who has jurisdiction over them?
If Trump continues with the same actions, I hope you will wish the same for him too? Did you listen to his speech today, doubt much is going to change under Trump.
Are you suggesting the death penalty?
We the people MUST have a government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE!!😐🙏🏾
For the People of USA (not people of Israel)
Please read From Dictatorship to Democracy the book by Dr Gene Sharp
Norm is the best
The tone is absolutely going to change. Good luck with what's coming. Suddenly being old feels comforting.
The system threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump and failed.
Whatever happens was supposed to happen because nobody else would have survived that onslaught.
I wish Mr.Finklestein stood for the presidency. Jill Stein now. Norman perhaps next time
And who would put money behind that campaign?
As long as donors select the candidates, nothing positive will happen in politics.
Norman speaks truth not propaganda 🇮🇱🇺🇸
Americans are too brainwashed to vote for anyone telling the truth
15,000 children . . . And Cheney's support, naturally.
I feel the same way “ whoever wins, we lose” that’s why I didn’t vote!
Me either
Brilliant man.
In my humble opinion, Trump is not America's Austrian; it is merely that, according to both candidates' corporate overlords, genocide is currently more profitable over peace in West Asia. Trump is not subverting a functioning democratic system, but the system itself was hijacked by corporate interests long ago and is currently functioning as intended.
Capitalism is working better than ever... For the few...
Well put.
I sadly yet wholeheartedly agree.
From the UK.
I agree. From Italy
.
Well, take a look at how the whole system has turned red now. Trump will absolutely start his own version of the SS.
Great podcast episode!
Thank you for tuning in!
Us democracy?? ha ha
Norm, you're gonna get a shot at the title.
If you lose you win, if you win you still win.
There's no way you can lose.
With the alliance with israel, America is screwed 😂😂😂😂
But what can we do to get our country back?
I voted Green Party here in the UK for the same reason.
US election system and politics is just crazy!
No actually it is Criminal!
Professor brilliant as usual,looks just like your father(rip)
LIFE SITUATIONS
FAMINE
PaulTeich©03/21/2024
All the dogs are gone
We have eaten their food as well
There is no water, there is no well
If it rains we sip from boot prints in the dirt
The dirty water makes us sick
There is no medicine
There are dead people everywhere I look
Cats are eating the dead people
Some people try to catch the cats
But cats are aloof
And hard to catch
But some of them have been eaten
There is nothing left to eat, but the dead
And if they are not eaten soon after death
The food of decay kills us also
Where is the world?
When there was famine
Where are the billionaires?
The sports stars
The movie stars
The politicians
I finally understand the vial maxim
All for us
None for you
We can even be killed by your indifference
I finally understand the vial maxim
I finally understand the vial maxim
I have fear
It is not false evidence appearing real
It is not an acronym
I fear that we are all Palestinians
If we are not in the one percent
I don’t know how, if there is a god
These weaklings could perpetrate this evil
I finally understand the vial maxim
I finally understand the vial maxim
...and 20,000 orphans.
Bold statements about Kamala. Saying she is incapable of lucid thought is quite an insult. How could she even be a candidate if that is the case?
That is why she lost. Having invested 1 billion dollars in the election campaign, she lost.
Thank you
I don’t think Biden picked her, and not for the purposes of sandbagging. His hand was forced to hand the baton. But I agree with the general assessment of her.
Excellent- new subscriber here
Thank you for watching and subscribing, new episodes coming soon!
I voted Jimmy in 1976 , and Ronnie in 1980. After that , I became enlightened to futility and fraud of two party swindle, and voted third party ( ANY third party ) , ever since.
"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." - Emma Goldman
'If Voting Made a Difference, They Wouldn't Let Us Do It'"- Mark Twain
According to Noam Chomsky, it was absolutely important to keep Trump, who he called a malignancy, from getting elected. This meant voting for Harris. Norman Finkelstein disagreed apparently. History will tell who's right.
America is healing from self inflicted wounds. It takes time.
And it is going to take forever because we keep inflicting more wounds on ourselves! I really don't have much hope that humanity is ever going to grow up and act like a mature human being.
True
No. It’s only when D and R win (& all more authoritarian parties/persons) that we lose. All wins by those less authoritarian than D or R are:
*Wins for all.*
I disagree with Finkelstein on the real estate salesman analogy.
I agree that real estate developers are into developing and building but I also think they are into destroying in order to develop and build.
I was thinking the same. I think he’s right about Trump’s instinct to build. Your point- what does the developer in Trump decide is worth demolishing in order to clear ground for new construction.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤norman
Trump promised to support the same.
The truth is that unless those against war and genocide who may have or not voted for Trump keep fighting, escalating the cause for peace through security and development, then the situation will degenerate.
I don’t see any good on coming. Biggest problems coming!!!!
The system for millionaire billionaire class working for themes!!! 👈
No system is perfect. It is not an indictment on the system. It is an indictment on the people ignorant enough to promote these types of characters. A society made of ignorant bullies will promote ignorant bullies to lead them.
Lol its not the system ???
What ?????
So if you get 48% for Kamala and 50% for Trump and that will give AIPAC 98% votes this is on the voters not the system ???
You are so smart maybe you should be the president lol
@@TalalAlshimari The system didn't vote for these tyrants. The ignorant PEOPLE voted for these tyrants.OF COURSE IT'S ON THE VOTERS.
Who paid you off Norm? Those systems have been a propaganda lie and u know if
Agreed.
Unfortunately that's all we the majority care about is the mere image of power(synonymous with money) and what real men look like...in the locker room.
😂 😂😂Laughing Kamala laughing last 😂😂😂 Gaza’s revenge decided the election
but now what about us? Americans?
Professor, on Utube, Trump was heard saying to Nutenyahoo " ... finish the job." This expression was with reference to the Palestinian people in Gaza.
So, between the two candidates, whom should voters vote?
Yes he did! He also wants to execute [bring back the death penalty] for those that criticize genocide of innocent women and children. Trump lacks the ethics of conscience -- compassion for fellow man.
3rd party
I did not vote because of the Genocide in Gaza 😢
So why didn't you vote for Jill stein? Did you not know about her? Why didn't you do your research?
Indeed, seriously what is the difference, one promotes genocide the other supports genocide
Hammi, why do you look so bored while you are watching Norman Finkelstein?
The finklehore of the most vial person on earth
My vote didn't matter didn't vote but make me feel good about myself.
This is the last gasp of a dying empire.
Totally agree about Kamala… empty headed!
A system of checks and balances. But this time could be different, Norman. A black swan moment, wherein the old system is no match for the powers aligned against it. I hope you’re proven right, even while your use of the word “unpatriotic” gives me pause.
❤️🕊️
Different sides of the same coin
There is but one party, and they serve at the behest of the elitist and mic. In a word, OLIGARCHY
Brics (Russia and China) will tolerate Trump to permit Iran back n forth?
Yes. Irs a gerrymander machine thingy _ where voting is important _ .89% of one vote vs 1.11 vote plus for the funny person across the street _ every 10 votes is another vote
What do you mean by "Chomsky '"was'? Last I checked he was still alive?
By the way - Brazil is a hot place and at his age and being of European heritage, I am not surprised Chomsky had a stroke.
this fella thinks too much of himself. heard the name...somewhere, before... agree with much of what he says... but KAMALA HARRIS IS NOT "STUPID"... she'd probably best him in some areas. The woman DID pass the California Bar to become a lawyer. And NO--I AM NOT A FAN OF MS. HARRIS. At all. Academia is full of these armchair pontificators. Much like guys who play Madden video football... and talk all kinds of smack about various players "sucking"...
America has spoken. Congrats Mr Trump.
No America has not spoken you need to get that through your head. Not everybody agrees with you even if he did win. I am not a trump supporter but I don't hate him I am hoping that he will do something good although I really don't hold out much hope for that actually happening.
So…this guy prefers donny?
Clearly not, he said it's a lose lose situation.
OMG every 4 seconds another Finkelstein video. He's worse than Jordan Peterson.
Your comment is offensive on so many levels...
@@johnpullen3729 That's very hurtful. 😂
At least I'm not shilling for Donald Trump while pretending to be a progressive, like the insufferable Finkelstein.
@@phasespace4700 How's he 'shilling' for Donald Trump?
@@johnpullen3729 Says Trump would "probably be better on foreign policy." Says 'don't worry about Trump acting unlawfully or destroying Democracy--we have plenty of checks and balances." Praises Ramaswamy (the climate denier who says Trump and his Jan 6th thugs should all be pardoned) and Ron DeSantis, insisting they are are "VERY impressive. VERY VERY smart!" and constantly attacks Harris as an empty shell, (though her resume puts Finkelstein's completely to shame).
He's also anti-BDS, was dead wrong on two states (as everyone told him decades ago), and basically has no clue what he's talking about.
Ok genocide supporter