Very nice layout of your parts and descriptions z28 never had a heat shield, when you disassembled your your motor, you should’ve left the rocker arms in the fulcrum ball together. You shouldn’t separate them because they are a matched set . Thanks for the videos
Thanks Morganz, Unfortunately, I did not disassemble the engine. I obtained the original block to the car from the second owner, which I gained contact to. I bought the Block and the original heads from him that were completely bare. I had to send the Block to the machine shop to have them repair an area and prep it. then obtained all the parts to build it up from there.
Thanks for sharing all your very nice new parts, one thing I don't understand is the pushrod guide plates are loose, they are held in place by the rocker arm studs I'm wondering what am I seeing?
@@digitalpizza1 The heads on my '69 Z/28 DZ302 did not have guideplates, as they came from the factory with pressed-in studs, just like the ones shown in your video (and yes they were also 186 heads). Guideplates are usually held in place by the lower hex part of the screw-in studs and the stud boss on the head, so I'm afraid I don't quite understand your response. Are you planning to replace the pressed-in studs with the screw-in variety? I enjoy your videos and can't wait to see the rest of them as you complete the project. Thanks!
@@chevyfan5303 Hi Chevy Fan, you are correct, I should clarify. My understanding is that 69 Zs came with the pressed in studs and no guide plates. The 70 Zs came with screw in and guide plates. My car had the guide plates installed in my heads, but it also had roller rockers and cam etc. But I am building the engine as it came from the factory with the exception of new pistons and Comp Cams push rods. So I would like to install the guide plates as well if it possible with the stock rockers.
@@digitalpizza1 Thanks for the reply. The only way I'm aware of to run guideplates in this scenario, is if you have the screw-in studs, however if you plan to run the heads as they came from the factory, i.e. with the pressed-in studs, then I don't see how it would be possible to run the guideplates. If you have found a way to run them with the pressed-in studs, then I would be very interested to know how. You should also be able to run the guideplates with the stock stamped steel rockers. By the way, I can just imagine the amount of money you spent on the NOS and refurbished parts shown on your table. Awesome!!
Can't install the guideplates unless you machine about 3/8" off the top of the stud bosses and then tap the heads 7/16-14 into the water jackets. You also have to open up the current holes in the heads where the pushrods go through. Unless you are really going to rev it, probably not worth it as you kind of hurt the value. You are obviously trying to do a fairly authentic restoration. I would pin the current studs to prevent them from pulling out. You can't see the pins very easy.
Fn smog pump air injection. Same on my San Jose, CA 1967 Ford Mustsng Fastback 289 4V. Of course, those parts and engine or on my shop engine shelf and the 2006 BOSS 302 stroked to 347 ci is in the old girl for now. Put a Boss in your Ford was the marketing line that took me(and shook me, lol) to the Shelby inspired Paxton Novi 1500 supercharged Boss 347. My buddy has that 302 engine out of a wrecked 69 Camaro in his old Chevy truck. It is a beast and runs lke a beast still today...solid roller. Gotta love that from the factory...
I was hoping you would show the vin number on the block, mine is stamped in the rough cast near the oil filter and is some what difficult two read, woundering if your is the same
Hi Brad, mine is extremely hard to see. So far I can only barely see the last 2 numbers of the VIN, 63. Luckily, I have the original sales recipe that shows the VO0318DZ on it 😎
Who in New York did your carburetor rebuild? I'm in Westchester County NY and have a '69 Z pretty close to yours. Need to have the original Carb rebuilt.
Do you still have the original pistons been looking for standard bore 302 to put in a 283 that's been bored to 4" when i got the engine it had 327 pistons which is wrong compression height i need 302 pistons i would be interested if you still have them
Wow! So nice. It looks like the car is going to be so correct. Are you going to do the engine build yourself? I thought the paint came out beautiful on previous vids.
Have you ran into a mislabeled block mine says tyz but put a 350 crank in it 3.48 stroke and the connecting rods head bolt hit the gasket surface for the oil pan by 1/2 inch.
Hi Dillon, no, I have not had that happen, but maybe someone else will comment about their experience. Also, maybe post your question on one of the SBC forums or Facebook Groups. There is a Wealth of info from those guys.
Yes, the channel is still active. I am finishing a couple of motorcycle projects right now, and when those are finished in a month or two, then I will be actively releasing more videos on the Camaros. Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it.
Looks like the block was shot blasted. I hope that the hidden oil plug under the rear main cap was removed and replaced, or your oil will not be going through the filter.
I have a set of those valve covers, they are on my 327 that someone put in my 83 s10, they had painted them black and I almost tossed them out because they were so ugly but I decided to clean them and found the Racing flags on the emblem under all that nasty paint so i keep them
If I understand your statement correctly, you are saying the 302 did not have windage tray rails? That isn't correct, the 302 has a unique oil pan different than the others with the rails. See this link for full description. The rails are clearly shown on pic 3 & 4 - www.camaros.net/threads/nos-vs-original-z-28-oil-pans.178450/
@@digitalpizza1 good plan had a 69 z when I was a kid. been all through the motor so Inn know whats supposed to be there. Funny some guys think they are all off the shelf parts.
@@digitalpizza1 installing them on those heads would be a very good addition, after 1970 all Chevy high performance small blocks came with screw in studs and pushrod guide plates !
@@johnpena9165 hi John, yes I might install them anyway, I think it’s a good idea. I wonder if it can be done with the current studs, or would I have to use the screw in type.
@@digitalpizza1 it's best to have the stud towers machine down and taped so you can use the standard size 3/8 screw in studs or the stronger 7/16 screw in studs (recommend for racing) both will secure the guide plates in place on the cylinder head .
Hi MC, Yes, not very common, but all Z/28s had it standard from the factory in all states. Smog control was not uncommon for California market cars, but not common for so called "49 State Cars"
Hi John, Thanks for the comment. According to CRG (Camaro Research Group) the PF29 was on the Passenger cars until Jan or Feb of 69. After that, they would have had the PF25 filters. So actually, based on that, my car should have a PF25. They also say that the PF35 filters were installed on the trucks. So, who knows, I think judges would except any of the three without a point loss.
don't mean to be a hater, but i got a major EEK when i saw that the rocker arm nut and balls were all mixed up. Not something you want to do if you are reusing them.
Its a victim of circumstance the 302 is just a glorified 283 ,the trans am rules were no more then 305 cubic inches a L79 327 will put the hurt on a 302 and the LT1 is even better
Yes, that is all true, but Mark Donahue and Roger Penski (who spec'd out the engine in the first place) wanted a stroker motor that was capable of very high RPMs which are better for road racing. Yes, the LT1 is a good engine, but its interesting that the best winning years that they had in the SCCA race was when they ran the 302, not the LT1 that came in 70
Only because of the 305 limet ,if that 302 had an auto trans it would suck ,that's why you could get the 70 Z with an auto trans because a 350 made so much more torque then a 283/302
A stroker engine lol a 3 inch stroke is far from a stroker ,if it was mine the 69 302 block is a large journal I would have built the short block as a 350 ,it still has the correct # on the block and would make more torque and rated 370 hp in the corvette ,did you use ARP rod bolts ,you should have went with screw in rocker arm studs
The motor is a restamp and not original as well the transmission is also a very bad restamp. Neither are original to the car. I hope you don't try to pass them off as original.
The trans has been re-stamped, not by me, and I haven't said otherwise. That is how I received it. The engine is absolutely the original block. It was obtained from the second owner along with the original sales receipt when the car was new showing the exact V0318DZ that is on the block, as well as the date code that coincides with build date of the car. So I am not trying to pass anything off that hasn't been presented to me. It is going to be one of the nicest Zs out there when its finished and I don't plan on ever selling it, so its a mute point.
This is an “as from the factory restoration”not a day 2 or Resto mod. I agree, there is better technology now in building these engines, but that isn’t what this project is about.
You’re correct on the shifter, I misspoke in the video. The oil filter is an exact reproduction of the original. The valve covers are in fact not polished in 69 and are non drippers. One year only. The polished covers with drippers came out on the LT1 Z28s in 70. Refer the Camaro Research Group on their website to verify this info
@@digitalpizza1 that oil filter is the long one i have Correct short one .i have had NOS valve covers there semi polished i have a Cortez Silver RS/Z28 and have had 3 Z's in the past I live in MI and have sold NOS part to Jim at Heart Beat City my Z has be authenticated by Jerry MacNeish been building 69 camaros for 40 years not trying to be a jerk or something just tying to help and yes Craigs Research Group is a good source for camaro stuff
@@bigdaddy69Z28 Hi Big Daddy, Could you take a few minutes and call me? I would like to compare notes with you. I to have owned a hand full of these cars and had Jerry certify a couple of cars. I would really like to talk more . Thanks, you can call anytime at 415-272-8133
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I've had mine for 42 years. You're going to have a great Z when it's finished. Really enjoying your journey. 👍
Thank you, I really appreciate it 😎
Great attention to detail! Can’t wait to see the restoration!
Convert it to a RS. The hide a way headlights and slit tail lights are a must have. Building show cars are cool but CARS ARE FOR DRIVING! 😂
Great video, love your attention to detail, 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Good to see the progress. Thanks 👍👍
Wow, you did go the extra mile to get it right. My original 72 c-10 has been maintained, but a build is very tedious. WELL done!!!
Very nice layout of your parts and descriptions z28 never had a heat shield, when you disassembled your your motor, you should’ve left the rocker arms in the fulcrum ball together. You shouldn’t separate them because they are a matched set . Thanks for the videos
Thanks Morganz,
Unfortunately, I did not disassemble the engine. I obtained the original block to the car from the second owner, which I gained contact to. I bought the Block and the original heads from him that were completely bare. I had to send the Block to the machine shop to have them repair an area and prep it. then obtained all the parts to build it up from there.
Thanks for the show and tell
Looking forward to this restoration, very nicely done.
Hoping to see the rest of the restoration! Love it thus far! Beautiful job!
What an awesome camaro, love the videos
What camshaft?
Very cool car,,,,love your Ford emblem in the background....lol
Thanks for sharing all your very nice new parts, one thing I don't understand is the pushrod guide plates are loose, they are held in place by the rocker arm studs I'm wondering what am I seeing?
The machine shop did not have them when they did the heads, so I have to install them when I assemble the rest of the head.
@@digitalpizza1 The heads on my '69 Z/28 DZ302 did not have guideplates, as they came from the factory with pressed-in studs, just like the ones shown in your video (and yes they were also 186 heads). Guideplates are usually held in place by the lower hex part of the screw-in studs and the stud boss on the head, so I'm afraid I don't quite understand your response. Are you planning to replace the pressed-in studs with the screw-in variety? I enjoy your videos and can't wait to see the rest of them as you complete the project. Thanks!
@@chevyfan5303 Hi Chevy Fan, you are correct, I should clarify. My understanding is that 69 Zs came with the pressed in studs and no guide plates. The 70 Zs came with screw in and guide plates. My car had the guide plates installed in my heads, but it also had roller rockers and cam etc. But I am building the engine as it came from the factory with the exception of new pistons and Comp Cams push rods. So I would like to install the guide plates as well if it possible with the stock rockers.
@@digitalpizza1 Thanks for the reply. The only way I'm aware of to run guideplates in this scenario, is if you have the screw-in studs, however if you plan to run the heads as they came from the factory, i.e. with the pressed-in studs, then I don't see how it would be possible to run the guideplates. If you have found a way to run them with the pressed-in studs, then I would be very interested to know how. You should also be able to run the guideplates with the stock stamped steel rockers. By the way, I can just imagine the amount of money you spent on the NOS and refurbished parts shown on your table. Awesome!!
Can't install the guideplates unless you machine about 3/8" off the top of the stud bosses and then tap the heads 7/16-14 into the water jackets. You also have to open up the current holes in the heads where the pushrods go through. Unless you are really going to rev it, probably not worth it as you kind of hurt the value. You are obviously trying to do a fairly authentic restoration. I would pin the current studs to prevent them from pulling out. You can't see the pins very easy.
Fn smog pump air injection. Same on my San Jose, CA 1967 Ford Mustsng Fastback 289 4V. Of course, those parts and engine or on my shop engine shelf and the 2006 BOSS 302 stroked to 347 ci is in the old girl for now. Put a Boss in your Ford was the marketing line that took me(and shook me, lol) to the Shelby inspired Paxton Novi 1500 supercharged Boss 347. My buddy has that 302 engine out of a wrecked 69 Camaro in his old Chevy truck. It is a beast and runs lke a beast still today...solid roller. Gotta love that from the factory...
Don't worry so much abut the numbers. We'll take your word for it. Obviously your passionate about this restoration.
Just putting back together my 69 Z.. early March build also. What brand of bearing did you use on the motor ? And where did you find the rocker arms ?
I was hoping you would show the vin number on the block, mine is stamped in the rough cast near the oil filter and is some what difficult two read, woundering if your is the same
Hi Brad, mine is extremely hard to see. So far I can only barely see the last 2 numbers of the VIN, 63. Luckily, I have the original sales recipe that shows the VO0318DZ on it 😎
Who in New York did your carburetor rebuild? I'm in Westchester County NY and have a '69 Z pretty close to yours. Need to have the original Carb rebuilt.
Tom Zeman
631-581-2009
He is in East Islip
Do you still have the original pistons been looking for standard bore 302 to put in a 283 that's been bored to 4" when i got the engine it had 327 pistons which is wrong compression height i need 302 pistons i would be interested if you still have them
Let's not forget the DZ 302 hemi
Wow! So nice. It looks like the car is going to be so correct. Are you going to do the engine build yourself? I thought the paint came out beautiful on previous vids.
Hi Wes, Yes, I will be building the engine myself. I will be posting the Part 2 of the engine build in a couple of days.
My old instructor Judd from Sam racing had a 69 z28 original. He rebuilt the motor 302 dz made 300 or 400 hp i believe stock rods and pistons too.
Have you ran into a mislabeled block mine says tyz but put a 350 crank in it 3.48 stroke and the connecting rods head bolt hit the gasket surface for the oil pan by 1/2 inch.
Hi Dillon, no, I have not had that happen, but maybe someone else will comment about their experience. Also, maybe post your question on one of the SBC forums or Facebook Groups. There is a Wealth of info from those guys.
Sounds like you have a 400 crank
Nice
Is the channel still active? Did this car ever get finished?
Yes, the channel is still active. I am finishing a couple of motorcycle projects right now, and when those are finished in a month or two, then I will be actively releasing more videos on the Camaros. Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it.
you never mentioned the camshaft
Looks like the block was shot blasted. I hope that the hidden oil plug under the rear main cap was removed and replaced, or your oil will not be going through the filter.
I have a set of those valve covers, they are on my 327 that someone put in my 83 s10, they had painted them black and I almost tossed them out because they were so ugly but I decided to clean them and found the Racing flags on the emblem under all that nasty paint so i keep them
Wind age tray rails. Only the 350 LT1
Camaro not vette had the ability to mate the tray with the oil pan rails!
If I understand your statement correctly, you are saying the 302 did not have windage tray rails? That isn't correct, the 302 has a unique oil pan different than the others with the rails. See this link for full description. The rails are clearly shown on pic 3 & 4 - www.camaros.net/threads/nos-vs-original-z-28-oil-pans.178450/
Oops the 5 of the 6 center 4 bolt mains mounted the wind age tray. No 302 had it!
Where is the windage tray?
I have it bolted up now, I had just gotten it back from the Machine Shop, and I didn't want them to have it and then have it disappear :)
@@digitalpizza1 good plan had a 69 z when I was a kid. been all through the motor so Inn know whats supposed to be there. Funny some guys think they are all off the shelf parts.
1969 DZ 302 cylinder heads didn't come out of the factory with pushrod guide plates like those in your video .
Yes, that’s correct. That was already addressed in the previous comments.
@@digitalpizza1 installing them on those heads would be a very good addition, after 1970 all Chevy high performance small blocks came with screw in studs and pushrod guide plates !
@@johnpena9165 hi John, yes I might install them anyway, I think it’s a good idea. I wonder if it can be done with the current studs, or would I have to use the screw in type.
@@digitalpizza1 it's best to have the stud towers machine down and taped so you can use the standard size 3/8 screw in studs or the stronger 7/16 screw in studs (recommend for racing) both will secure the guide plates in place on the cylinder head .
The name if that part youre looking for is called a windage tray!!
I did not know there was smog control in 69.
Hi MC, Yes, not very common, but all Z/28s had it standard from the factory in all states. Smog control was not uncommon for California market cars, but not common for so called "49 State Cars"
That long oil filter should say PF35. I still have one.
Hi John,
Thanks for the comment. According to CRG (Camaro Research Group) the PF29 was on the Passenger cars until Jan or Feb of 69. After that, they would have had the PF25 filters. So actually, based on that, my car should have a PF25. They also say that the PF35 filters were installed on the trucks. So, who knows, I think judges would except any of the three without a point loss.
don't mean to be a hater, but i got a major EEK when i saw that the rocker arm nut and balls were all mixed up. Not something you want to do if you are reusing them.
Unfortunately I got them in a pile, so I am going to use new rockers & hardware
Its a victim of circumstance the 302 is just a glorified 283 ,the trans am rules were no more then 305 cubic inches a L79 327 will put the hurt on a 302 and the LT1 is even better
Yes, that is all true, but Mark Donahue and Roger Penski (who spec'd out the engine in the first place) wanted a stroker motor that was capable of very high RPMs which are better for road racing. Yes, the LT1 is a good engine, but its interesting that the best winning years that they had in the SCCA race was when they ran the 302, not the LT1 that came in 70
Only because of the 305 limet ,if that 302 had an auto trans it would suck ,that's why you could get the 70 Z with an auto trans because a 350 made so much more torque then a 283/302
A stroker engine lol a 3 inch stroke is far from a stroker ,if it was mine the 69 302 block is a large journal I would have built the short block as a 350 ,it still has the correct # on the block and would make more torque and rated 370 hp in the corvette ,did you use ARP rod bolts ,you should have went with screw in rocker arm studs
The 302was like the vet 327 365 HP look it up the 302had 327 block and a 283 crank with hi done Pistons and a vet cam
The motor is a restamp and not original as well the transmission is also a very bad restamp. Neither are original to the car. I hope you don't try to pass them off as original.
The trans has been re-stamped, not by me, and I haven't said otherwise. That is how I received it. The engine is absolutely the original block. It was obtained from the second owner along with the original sales receipt when the car was new showing the exact V0318DZ that is on the block, as well as the date code that coincides with build date of the car. So I am not trying to pass anything off that hasn't been presented to me. It is going to be one of the nicest Zs out there when its finished and I don't plan on ever selling it, so its a mute point.
what a waste of a dz. motor was a brute update it to be a killer.
This is an “as from the factory restoration”not a day 2 or Resto mod.
I agree, there is better technology now in building these engines, but that isn’t what this project is about.
that is a HURST shifter .that oil filter is a truck filter should be shorter .Valve covers should be polished. just trying to help
You’re correct on the shifter, I misspoke in the video.
The oil filter is an exact reproduction of the original. The valve covers are in fact not polished in 69 and are non drippers. One year only.
The polished covers with drippers came out on the LT1 Z28s in 70.
Refer the Camaro Research Group on their website to verify this info
@@digitalpizza1 that oil filter is the long one i have Correct short one .i have had NOS valve covers there semi polished i have a Cortez Silver RS/Z28 and have had 3 Z's in the past I live in MI and have sold NOS part to Jim at Heart Beat City my Z has be authenticated by Jerry MacNeish been building 69 camaros for 40 years not trying to be a jerk or something just tying to help and yes Craigs Research Group is a good source for camaro stuff
@@bigdaddy69Z28 Hi Big Daddy, Could you take a few minutes and call me? I would like to compare notes with you. I to have owned a hand full of these cars and had Jerry certify a couple of cars. I would really like to talk more . Thanks, you can call anytime at 415-272-8133