After watching your videos, I now get hurt seeing quality boots get cut in half. For the sneakers I get hurt seeing the prices not getting cut in half.
My big concern is that most people would look at these, recognize them as an AF1, see no Nike branding, and just assume they were a budget knockoff like what you’d get from Phat Farm. I’m not exactly a sneakerhead, but I can’t imagine spending like 2x the amount of money on a pair of shoes that most people are going to think I copped for like $30-40 based on the design
@@leatherface1136 they stain more, crease more, cost twice as much, and are an imitation of an iconic piece that doesn’t stand on its own. Those are all pretty serious flaws of this product when you look at them together. I don’t really care about leather quality if it doesn’t translate to a product that will look fresh for longer, why would I buy these over the on-brand ones?
@@user-up1op3kz9q you don’t care about quality. That’s the difference. I care about nice leather. It feels nice and looks nicer longer. In a month those af1s will look bad and the govans with their premium leather will look better.
To my feet, the ultimate non-crease sneaker is the reebok classic leather. Since nike upped price for AF1s, the reeboks classics are my best bang for buck sneaker. I want to hear the rose anvil take on them and see how they stack up against the af1s. Also, love this channel, keep up the great work!
@@ricerexpress426 try the classic harman run if u get the chance, much comfier for me personally than the classic leather, and looks pretty much the same
This. I got some $50 Rebooks that I bought to beat at the gym and the toebox area that usually creases on my Jordan 1s has yet to crease like that on the Reeboks. The only 1s that don't crease like that are the gortex cuz the toebox isn't leather.
The Club 85 Classics are the models that I use. They even have some versions that they claim are full grain leather and others are tumbled leather (that may also be full grain but also tumbled). They do a number of different colour schemes and the descriptions vary a bit and it isn't clear if the copy writers got bored or the products are slightly different. I also own a number of pairs of premium sneakers from Artisan Lab and Loake as well as full grain leather Timberland sneakers but the Reeboks are worry free sneakers because they are comfortable and cheap enough that I don't care if something happens to them.
ikr lmao, i was about to say the same thing, af1 regulars look so good, and they last pretty long so, I would not change them for some 45 yo dad type sneaker
I would like to see this. I feel like the bapestas would be a viable replacement for AF1s because they hold a name and most people would know them unlike govans which would get you roasted for have af1 clones
@@kevinmontoya7318 i think the govan's are high enough quality no one would roast you for wearing them, or at least no one who understands shoes/fashion at all. there's other designer sneakers that look similar to more popular cheaper sneakers that people like.
I understand what they are doing as well as your semi-endorsement of this shoe which I respect. But at the end of the day; if you look at the vast majority of the AF-1 buyers one of the biggest selling points is the convenience and familiarity of the AF-1. All age groups that purchase an AF-1 they don’t really put too much thought about this purchase. It’s a great general purpose shoe that goes with everything, easily accessible, and can be in your hands with a quick trip to the mall all for around $120+. Not only is it easily accessible; you don’t really have to care about maintaining it either. It’s a “careless” shoe for most ppl and you just go buy another one after wearing them to the ground. Another thing is they hold a solid place in the sneaker culture where you won’t get a “what are thoseeeeee” (if you care about that kind of a thing) it’s a known respected sneaker.
Why would you buy a shoe that was made to look exactly like another shoe except it doesn’t have the brand behind it? I could buy a pair of 15$ af1 looking shoes from Walmart and it’d be treated the same as a govan shoe
@@Jacobkent09 because you could buy one that is made of nicer leather and has proper cushioning for walking? I'll take that over paying 120$ for a barely functional air unit and faux leather swoosh stitched onto my shoe.
Lately I've been wondering about the impact the pigment has on the breathability of the calf skin on these high end white sneakers. Have you done any testing comparing the breathability of an uncoated leather sneaker and a white leather sneaker of the same brand? Would be interesting to see!
Concerning staining (Ketchup/Mustard), wouldn't the Govan leather uppers take a white pigment polish/conditioner if stained? Could the stained Govans' be repaired by applying white dye over the stained areas?
@@MrBoost96 They're supposed to be, yes. All of the clothing/denim I have from JE is insanely nice. I've wanted to buy a pair of the AF1s for a while now, and wish I hadn't waited because well... Re-sale has gone up... I completely missed the actual release, and every re-stock I saw never seemed to have a 10 or 10.5 🤦🏿♂️
Being practical and economical, the Govan loses in several categories. They're 2 × the price, the leather stains faster, the rubber soles appear to stain faster and wear faster. As you've said about working boots... you can buy 2 pairs of af1s and rotate them. For the price of 1 Govan
The only difference I could see the govan being better is that since the leather is good quality you could change the soles over the shoes lifetime, extending the lifespan of the pair. If they introduce outsole sales then the shoe would easily last more than twice the af1's span.
Its a small batch production so the target audience is generally not practical and economical. Almost no small clothing manufacturer cant compete in a pure value with larg corps. People just want to support diversity in clothing manufacturing, keep things interesting.
Hey my man, I have noticed something weird. So, I recently showed my wife your channel and she loves the cutting boots in half concept. Recently she has been into quality footwear as well, and she just bought herself a pair of Iron Rangers. Oddly enough, I think there is a HUGE quality disparity between men's and women's red wing heritage boots. They advertise a softer leather and a texon insole, however they don't mention what seems to be a non-leather welt on the heel, and a sole that is just glued on rather than nailed. I'm not sure if there are other shortcuts in their construction, as I can't afford to cut my wife's boots in half. But considering they are the same price, I can't see a justification for using cheaper materials. Maybe you could take a look? Do a video?
When looking at how good of a value something is I don't think that small business vs big business comes into the equation. If you prefer to support small businesses and are willing to spend more money to do so, great, but for an equivalent product and support you will be getting less value for your money. I typically prefer to support small businesses and I feel like they do often have good value in ways that big companies don't, better support, more customization, or sometimes just better quality. I think with shoes and boots there is very significant value in spending more money for something that is more comfortable, even if you end up with something that doesn't last as long as the price would indicate, but like many other things it depends on the use case. Based entirely on this video and what I mentioned above I would consider these worth it over the airforce ones and that is completely ignoring that it is a small company.
Part of the reason these are so expensive is that they are made in a 1st world country (Italy) with 1st world wages. You can get much cheaper high-quality sneaker-like shoes for around $100, but they will be made in SE Asia, like the Birchbury's which are made in Vietnam....
No, it’s profit. These shoes MAYBE take $70 worth of materials, however govan is marking them up over 3-fold, this shoe if he wants to keep them competitive with a pair of AF1’s should sell for $150, because at the end of the day, this is just a slightly better leather AF1 with less durability in the sole ( which in a sneaker leather doesn’t really matter )
Agreed! Our costs to make the shoes are almost 3x the cost due to manufacturing conditions we are proud of. We could have our sneakers made in Asia, but the conditions aren't as nice. Our markup is also lower than Nike, adidas etc...
consider doing a regular AF-1 vs. the AF-1 "Craft." the crafts supposedly use better (read: real) leather and for that reason, are supposed to not only be far more comfortable, but crease less because of the genuine cowhide. would love to know if this is true, or another bunch of Nike marketing BS.
I understand how govan is being priced but still a bit expensive imo. Definitely has way better quality and it looks like they have done better for the heel slippage which is what i don't like about the af1s unless you squeeze the laces which is uncomfortable to the feet. I may cop a govan one of these days👍
The Govans seem to move and crease like I would expect for that grade of leather, with a sharp crease test like you did. Overall, probably worth the price, if I was in the market. It's objectively a better shoe, and a better company.
I don’t really understand what Govan was saying about the companies and black culture? What do the companies have to do with what shoes people choose to buy. If he said “we use ethical labour unlike Nike” I would’ve been on side, but he seemed to be trying to make it specifically about black culture, when it’s Pakistani and Vietnamese people Nike etc. generally exploit.
Please dissect a pair of Puma Suedes. The "Classic XXI" is the modern version and the "VTG" is the vintage version. I'm not sure if there's a difference in material.
Honestly… two years ago i’vo bought shoes that were better than Nike in some Turkish/Chinese shoes shop… meaning, not branded, but models tried to imitate brands. They looked so much better than Nike AF that I only ever noticed that it’s a “mock” when I started deep cleaning them! Real leather on those was gorgeous, very stiff and durable. If only the soles didn’t break horizontally all the way up to the soles 😂 in two years of heavy wear
I love your videos. But my eyes popped when I saw Govan. It is a suburb of Glasgow, on the banks of the River Clyde in Scotland, quite an amazing place, and the really scary thing is it's the sort of place where the philosophy of Robert Govan would fit in quite nicely; sneaker culture, hip hop, injustice, a strong sense of pride. And of course, football; Rangers.
With the attention on AF1’s and the 40th anniversary being celebrated with the retro of the Color of the Month pairs, I’d be curious to see a dissection of those. I’ve heard they are pretty good. Curious to see how they hold up compared to the normal pair and the “fresh” pair 😁 Enjoyed the vid!
They're modern Nikes lol so they'd be made with the same low quality materials with changed up colors in order to drive up reseller price and push sales
They're modern Nikes lol so they'd be made with the same low quality materials with changed up colors in order to drive up reseller price and push sales
@@FgtRtd that’s the thing some people I’ve seen getting them say they’re the best AF1 out. I wouldn’t be surprised if they bumped it up a slight bit since it’s Color of the Month but you could be right. Could just be a regular old pair.
@@FgtRtd color of the month’s role in the history of the AF1 can’t be understated so I’m hoping what I’ve heard is true and the quality is at least A LITTLE better than a regular pair. I mean, the bar isn’t very high to begin with so it wouldn’t be that difficult for them to step it up just a little bit.
It’s funny every time you said Govan- in Scotland one of the most deprived areas of Glasgow has this name, once famous for its ship yards, it’s pronounced Guv’ un. It reminded me of an old comedy show we have in the UK. The husband was called Mr Bucket but the wife always pronounced it bouquet!
The Scots and Northern Irish were heavily involved in the tobacco and cotton plantations in the USA which is where cities like Glasgow and Belfast built much of their wealth. And many African slaves, when released, adopted the surnames of their plantation managers or even the names of the plantations where they worked, simply because they did not know their real names. That is why so many African Americans now have Scottish names and almost certainly the origin of the Govan name in this case.
Is funny how everyone forgot how the sneakers were back in the 80s and 90s. Almost every big Brand, Adidas, Nike, Kangaroos, Fila where made with a really big quality because they did last way longer and we destroyed them over time. And that leather stood up for the challenge! We deserve better!
@@joeybaseball7352 Yeah yeah i guess you always play the victim. And want to play the smart one by making a stupid comment passing as a sarcastic. Instead of recognize that we as customers play dumb and keep paying money for sh**tthat is not worth it!
this really isn't relevant to this video, but, did you ever think about slicing up some cycling shoes? I'd be really interested to see what you thought about some sidi, bont or s-works shoes and how they're made (if you do do this, wear a mask when you do the cutting, carbon fiber dust is bad for your lungs)
I don't mind sponsored reviews because of bias - I trust Weston to be as honest as anyone can while still making enough money to eat - but it bugs me that Govan has to pay for a review while Nike gets reviewed for free (actually, they get paid for the sneakers). I'm not throwing shade, I understand the economics of why it works that way and I don't know how to fix the problem. But the unfairness is a bummer.
Nobody would have heard of govan otherwise. There are Nikes everywhere, I'm interested to see them cut open as they are a likely choice for the average consumer. I'd never find Govans in a shop where I live and they are only of interest for me and would unlikely ever be purchased.
After getting my first pair of Horween leather Crown Northampton sneaker I have never looked back. I now have 3 pairs and the fact that they can be resoled back to life.. they would pretty much out live me and keeps looking better as the Horween leather ages.
There’s one with better leather compared to regular AF1 called AF1 Craft. I think you should break those down it will be an interesting video. Love your videos btw ❤
After watching your videos, I change my mindset on buying sneakers. Do you think you can cut and review Yeezy 380 and Yeezy 700 V3? Shout out from PR 🇵🇷
I don't think we should be expecting any less creasing even with most of the "higher quality" leathers used for sneakers. A lot of these leathers are still corrected grain rather than true full grain (not sure about Govans), and I think there's just diminishing returns trying to lengthen the pristine look lifespan by upping the leather quality past a point whereby sneakers becomes too expensive to own. IMO Puma has done a great job that was achieved through better shoe design- Look at how the way they made the Ralph Sampson- there's 2 ridges at the end of the tongue that would accommodate precisely where your toes would flex, eliminating most possibilities of crease marks. If you want something retro-looking, hate creases, allows for your own orthotics and usually cost less than AF1s, that's a good option.
Also the higher quality leather will last longer and look better over time. Wondering about the resoleability. If they did some rough out or heavily tumbled leather in the crease points it would also look better for longer.
hi. i wonder of you guys can do some cycling shoes. they are some of the most overpriced and heavily marketed sports equipment. and because cycling can get super expensive on the super enthusiast/pro level, the cycling shoes can get up to 300$. thanks for the good work and nice videos.
Hows the sizing on the Basketeers?? Can’t seem to find any sizing info anywhere. They don’t have 1/2 sizes so trying to figure out if I go with 11 or 12. Thanks 🙏🏼🙏🏼
You should do a comparison of the Reebok club C 85 vs the club C 85 vintage. I have a pair of Adidas continental 80, which they don’t sell anymore, and a pair of Reebok club C 85s and the Adidas are much more comfortable than the Reeboks I believe the sole is a solid chunk of foam in the adidas and just a rubber cup sole with big voids in it on the Reebok, kind of like the Stan Smith. I think the vintage ones are slightly higher quality and made a similar way to the Adidas. Who knows this might change though because I believe Reebok just got sold. You could also throw a pair of the continental 80s into the comparison but since you can’t buy them retail anymore there’s probably no point in doing that.
I think most people that enjoy sneakers and especially this type of sneaker, they need force fields to stop the creasing from happening. Been using force fields in these tyoes of sneakers for years and its the only way to stop them from creasing right away.
Great video, man! I am wondering if you have any opinions on JK boots? How do they compare to Nick's boots, since they are in the similar price point. Will you review a pair of them in the future? Thanks man!
You know what is interesting about this is that I just watched a video about wearing fake or inspired clothes. This shoe would fit under that type of shoe. Not actually fake or a replica but still inspired so some times according to that other video still called a rep. It was a very interesting video.
You should cut open the Rick Owens drkshdw Ramones, I’m really curious if there’s a shank in the midsole because they are very stiff on feet but comfortable and give support.
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After watching your videos, I now get hurt seeing quality boots get cut in half. For the sneakers I get hurt seeing the prices not getting cut in half.
Unfortunately it’s the only way to know how it’s constructed, so appreciate it.
This is such a Dutch comment :)
When I first started watching this channel it was very painful but after being a subscriber and watching so many vids I'm desensitized now lol.
Agree 100 percent . Really hurts to see a pair of Nick's boots or White's boots cut in half.
He sacrifices them for the culture
My big concern is that most people would look at these, recognize them as an AF1, see no Nike branding, and just assume they were a budget knockoff like what you’d get from Phat Farm.
I’m not exactly a sneakerhead, but I can’t imagine spending like 2x the amount of money on a pair of shoes that most people are going to think I copped for like $30-40 based on the design
that's your problem, you care what people think
@@leatherface1136 they stain more, crease more, cost twice as much, and are an imitation of an iconic piece that doesn’t stand on its own.
Those are all pretty serious flaws of this product when you look at them together. I don’t really care about leather quality if it doesn’t translate to a product that will look fresh for longer, why would I buy these over the on-brand ones?
@@user-up1op3kz9q you don’t care about quality. That’s the difference. I care about nice leather. It feels nice and looks nicer longer. In a month those af1s will look bad and the govans with their premium leather will look better.
@@dontworrybout2664 "ar15" 💀
@@leatherface1136 You wouldn't be buying AF1s if you didn't care what people think.
To my feet, the ultimate non-crease sneaker is the reebok classic leather. Since nike upped price for AF1s, the reeboks classics are my best bang for buck sneaker. I want to hear the rose anvil take on them and see how they stack up against the af1s. Also, love this channel, keep up the great work!
My classic leathers haven't creased after a couple months but they aren't the most comfortable shoe
@@ricerexpress426 try the classic harman run if u get the chance, much comfier for me personally than the classic leather, and looks pretty much the same
This. I got some $50 Rebooks that I bought to beat at the gym and the toebox area that usually creases on my Jordan 1s has yet to crease like that on the Reeboks. The only 1s that don't crease like that are the gortex cuz the toebox isn't leather.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try them when my current ones wear out
The Club 85 Classics are the models that I use. They even have some versions that they claim are full grain leather and others are tumbled leather (that may also be full grain but also tumbled). They do a number of different colour schemes and the descriptions vary a bit and it isn't clear if the copy writers got bored or the products are slightly different.
I also own a number of pairs of premium sneakers from Artisan Lab and Loake as well as full grain leather Timberland sneakers but the Reeboks are worry free sneakers because they are comfortable and cheap enough that I don't care if something happens to them.
They look like the 10$ Walmart Specials 😂
Nah it nobu air force 1 from Walmart💀
ikr lmao, i was about to say the same thing, af1 regulars look so good, and they last pretty long so, I would not change them for some 45 yo dad type sneaker
Honestly 😂😂😂😂
Yeah all that shoemaking and material wasted on a bad shoe last.yet Nike AF1 is looking more and more similar to those Govans 😅
It would be interesting to see a pair of bapestas cut in half due to their similarities with the AF1
I would like to see this. I feel like the bapestas would be a viable replacement for AF1s because they hold a name and most people would know them unlike govans which would get you roasted for have af1 clones
@@kevinmontoya7318 i think the govan's are high enough quality no one would roast you for wearing them, or at least no one who understands shoes/fashion at all. there's other designer sneakers that look similar to more popular cheaper sneakers that people like.
THIS
I understand what they are doing as well as your semi-endorsement of this shoe which I respect. But at the end of the day; if you look at the vast majority of the AF-1 buyers one of the biggest selling points is the convenience and familiarity of the AF-1. All age groups that purchase an AF-1 they don’t really put too much thought about this purchase. It’s a great general purpose shoe that goes with everything, easily accessible, and can be in your hands with a quick trip to the mall all for around $120+. Not only is it easily accessible; you don’t really have to care about maintaining it either. It’s a “careless” shoe for most ppl and you just go buy another one after wearing them to the ground. Another thing is they hold a solid place in the sneaker culture where you won’t get a “what are thoseeeeee” (if you care about that kind of a thing) it’s a known respected sneaker.
well said
Why would you buy a shoe that was made to look exactly like another shoe except it doesn’t have the brand behind it? I could buy a pair of 15$ af1 looking shoes from Walmart and it’d be treated the same as a govan shoe
@@Jacobkent09 that’s because you care what other people think instead of quality.
@@Jacobkent09 because you could buy one that is made of nicer leather and has proper cushioning for walking? I'll take that over paying 120$ for a barely functional air unit and faux leather swoosh stitched onto my shoe.
@@Trazyn_the_Hoarder a lot of people pay for the brand name
I don't know what you're seeing with the Govans creasing. At least on video the OG AF1 looked WAY more creased.
we agree!
"What are those!?" Is all I can think. They are just soo close to a AF1 but just a bit off.
Tbh couple of the last videos remind me of a commercial :/ Too much praising a mid quality sneaker
I value quality. Thanks for showing us what these sneakers and boots are really made of. Much appreciated 👍🏾.
Ur paying 300 for a ross shoe
Being from Scotland it's quite funny hearing Govan being pronounced so fancily.
Lately I've been wondering about the impact the pigment has on the breathability of the calf skin on these high end white sneakers. Have you done any testing comparing the breathability of an uncoated leather sneaker and a white leather sneaker of the same brand? Would be interesting to see!
Concerning staining (Ketchup/Mustard), wouldn't the Govan leather uppers take a white pigment polish/conditioner if stained?
Could the stained Govans' be repaired by applying white dye over the stained areas?
The govan leather creasing looks way better
Thank you and we agree! We've done so many wear tests, and our leather creasing looks way better due to the higher quality leather. Great feedback!
@@govanluxury9304 Definitely, anytime!
Unfortunately like most independent companies they don’t go up to a size 14 but I always say it’s dope supporting these biz than the bigger companies
Thanks for the support! We agree!
facts bro I can never find 14s
BAPE, the original AF1 copycat maker:
Finally, a worthy opponent.
Our battle will be legendary!
@Marc Carran But we're talking on the premium side here.
BAPEstas cost 100 bucks more than the average AF1, but so worth it.
I think the BAPE leather is better
@Marc Carran The point is, *nobody asked.*
Would love to see how the John Elliott AF1s compare to the regular ones...
Was thinking the same thing
Never heard about these, do they have an higher quality?
@@MrBoost96 apparently but I'm more interested in Vlone AF1s
@@MrBoost96 They're supposed to be, yes. All of the clothing/denim I have from JE is insanely nice. I've wanted to buy a pair of the AF1s for a while now, and wish I hadn't waited because well... Re-sale has gone up... I completely missed the actual release, and every re-stock I saw never seemed to have a 10 or 10.5 🤦🏿♂️
@@shn3340 Why? Aren't those just black pebbled leather? They don't exactly seem like great materials in all honesty. Just a ton of hype.
What about air cushioning? Are Govans really more comfortable with basic midsole?
I'm not feeling these overpriced bootleg AF1
They look like really good sneakers. I hope the company catches on and does well.
Being practical and economical, the Govan loses in several categories. They're 2 × the price, the leather stains faster, the rubber soles appear to stain faster and wear faster. As you've said about working boots... you can buy 2 pairs of af1s and rotate them. For the price of 1 Govan
The only difference I could see the govan being better is that since the leather is good quality you could change the soles over the shoes lifetime, extending the lifespan of the pair. If they introduce outsole sales then the shoe would easily last more than twice the af1's span.
Its a small batch production so the target audience is generally not practical and economical. Almost no small clothing manufacturer cant compete in a pure value with larg corps. People just want to support diversity in clothing manufacturing, keep things interesting.
I had the same pair of Air Force 1 for 6-8 years they still look ok the creasing has cracking
Hey my man, I have noticed something weird. So, I recently showed my wife your channel and she loves the cutting boots in half concept. Recently she has been into quality footwear as well, and she just bought herself a pair of Iron Rangers.
Oddly enough, I think there is a HUGE quality disparity between men's and women's red wing heritage boots.
They advertise a softer leather and a texon insole, however they don't mention what seems to be a non-leather welt on the heel, and a sole that is just glued on rather than nailed. I'm not sure if there are other shortcuts in their construction, as I can't afford to cut my wife's boots in half. But considering they are the same price, I can't see a justification for using cheaper materials.
Maybe you could take a look? Do a video?
Thanks for your thoughts man. We actually have a couple women's boots from different brands coming soon. So
keep an eye out!
When looking at how good of a value something is I don't think that small business vs big business comes into the equation. If you prefer to support small businesses and are willing to spend more money to do so, great, but for an equivalent product and support you will be getting less value for your money. I typically prefer to support small businesses and I feel like they do often have good value in ways that big companies don't, better support, more customization, or sometimes just better quality. I think with shoes and boots there is very significant value in spending more money for something that is more comfortable, even if you end up with something that doesn't last as long as the price would indicate, but like many other things it depends on the use case.
Based entirely on this video and what I mentioned above I would consider these worth it over the airforce ones and that is completely ignoring that it is a small company.
Well said and well thought out!
You know, I'm so over the "Black" message at this point, but I do like the lack of obnoxious branding on these.
For a premium sneaker, I like this style over the other premium white sneakers on the market.
Thank you for the support!
I like the Gucci sneakers style
id be interested to see a sacai blazer cut in half, mostly just to see what all that extra midsole looks like
the foxing tape just goes up higher on the shoe, the midsole is the same as any other nike blazer
Part of the reason these are so expensive is that they are made in a 1st world country (Italy) with 1st world wages. You can get much cheaper high-quality sneaker-like shoes for around $100, but they will be made in SE Asia, like the Birchbury's which are made in Vietnam....
No, it’s profit. These shoes MAYBE take $70 worth of materials, however govan is marking them up over 3-fold, this shoe if he wants to keep them competitive with a pair of AF1’s should sell for $150, because at the end of the day, this is just a slightly better leather AF1 with less durability in the sole ( which in a sneaker leather doesn’t really matter )
Agreed! Our costs to make the shoes are almost 3x the cost due to manufacturing conditions we are proud of. We could have our sneakers made in Asia, but the conditions aren't as nice. Our markup is also lower than Nike, adidas etc...
Bruh the stock footage at 13:22 is from a replica factory not Nike lmao
consider doing a regular AF-1 vs. the AF-1 "Craft." the crafts supposedly use better (read: real) leather and for that reason, are supposed to not only be far more comfortable, but crease less because of the genuine cowhide. would love to know if this is true, or another bunch of Nike marketing BS.
I think it's time to give New Balance, especially the premier made in england one a look.
If the Govan rubber sole is softer, then how can it bounce higher? Great shoe though.
Cuz its actual rubber, high level latex.
I understand how govan is being priced but still a bit expensive imo. Definitely has way better quality and it looks like they have done better for the heel slippage which is what i don't like about the af1s unless you squeeze the laces which is uncomfortable to the feet. I may cop a govan one of these days👍
Thank you and we agree! Our sneakers are a much better fit than the AF1s, and they wear in, not out.
The Govans seem to move and crease like I would expect for that grade of leather, with a sharp crease test like you did. Overall, probably worth the price, if I was in the market. It's objectively a better shoe, and a better company.
I don’t really understand what Govan was saying about the companies and black culture? What do the companies have to do with what shoes people choose to buy. If he said “we use ethical labour unlike Nike” I would’ve been on side, but he seemed to be trying to make it specifically about black culture, when it’s Pakistani and Vietnamese people Nike etc. generally exploit.
wait -- no score on how well you centered the cut??? ZOMG! seriously, though, for some reason I really look forward to that part of the video.
How do we give submissions for boots that you should cut open ?
Just test any "new" Adidas Forum 84 please.
Ok but imagine getting a af1 ripoff for 240$ and people believe is just a chep fake lmao
Please dissect a pair of Puma Suedes. The "Classic XXI" is the modern version and the "VTG" is the vintage version. I'm not sure if there's a difference in material.
Honestly… two years ago i’vo bought shoes that were better than Nike in some Turkish/Chinese shoes shop… meaning, not branded, but models tried to imitate brands. They looked so much better than Nike AF that I only ever noticed that it’s a “mock” when I started deep cleaning them! Real leather on those was gorgeous, very stiff and durable. If only the soles didn’t break horizontally all the way up to the soles 😂 in two years of heavy wear
i really would wear the govans if my friends wouldn't immediately flame me for wearing fake forces
A Bathing Ape makes a sneaker that is very similar to the AF1, they're called Bapestas. Maybe you can check them out and compare them to the AF1s
11:25 damn, there wasn't a cut center score...I guess I'll give it a 9.2/10
I love when a channel is upfront and honest. Really love the channel!
Review the Air Force 1 craft, they’re the better quality version of the regular Air Force 1
I love your videos.
But my eyes popped when I saw Govan. It is a suburb of Glasgow, on the banks of the River Clyde in Scotland, quite an amazing place, and the really scary thing is it's the sort of place where the philosophy of Robert Govan would fit in quite nicely; sneaker culture, hip hop, injustice, a strong sense of pride. And of course, football; Rangers.
Thanks for the info, that's really cool! Great to learn more things every day
you're way more objective than biased and that's what's important
With the attention on AF1’s and the 40th anniversary being celebrated with the retro of the Color of the Month pairs, I’d be curious to see a dissection of those. I’ve heard they are pretty good. Curious to see how they hold up compared to the normal pair and the “fresh” pair 😁
Enjoyed the vid!
They're modern Nikes lol so they'd be made with the same low quality materials with changed up colors in order to drive up reseller price and push sales
They're modern Nikes lol so they'd be made with the same low quality materials with changed up colors in order to drive up reseller price and push sales
@@FgtRtd that’s the thing some people I’ve seen getting them say they’re the best AF1 out. I wouldn’t be surprised if they bumped it up a slight bit since it’s Color of the Month but you could be right. Could just be a regular old pair.
@@Jeffreynelius would be really nice, I've always been a Nike fan but I've just switched from forces to vapormax and 95's or 97's..
@@FgtRtd color of the month’s role in the history of the AF1 can’t be understated so I’m hoping what I’ve heard is true and the quality is at least A LITTLE better than a regular pair. I mean, the bar isn’t very high to begin with so it wouldn’t be that difficult for them to step it up just a little bit.
make air force 1 craft, the af1 with premium leather
What happened to the ‘center cut score’?
@UCvOnhrGuuQj_Kd7V0evE0fg what did I win?
It’s funny every time you said Govan- in Scotland one of the most deprived areas of Glasgow has this name, once famous for its ship yards, it’s pronounced Guv’ un. It reminded me of an old comedy show we have in the UK. The husband was called Mr Bucket but the wife always pronounced it bouquet!
The Scots and Northern Irish were heavily involved in the tobacco and cotton plantations in the USA which is where cities like Glasgow and Belfast built much of their wealth.
And many African slaves, when released, adopted the surnames of their plantation managers or even the names of the plantations where they worked, simply because they did not know their real names. That is why so many African Americans now have Scottish names and almost certainly the origin of the Govan name in this case.
I don't give a s*** about Air Force Ones or a shoe trying to look like them but to my eye the Govans look a lot nicer.
Man I love these Sneaker Saturdays
Govan is rough, rough area of Glasgow, Scotland.
It's the most frightening name I can think of.
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Side panels are too plain, most people would think its just a af1 replica, and a bad one.
Is funny how everyone forgot how the sneakers were back in the 80s and 90s. Almost every big Brand, Adidas, Nike, Kangaroos, Fila where made with a really big quality because they did last way longer and we destroyed them over time. And that leather stood up for the challenge! We deserve better!
@@joeybaseball7352 Yeah yeah i guess you always play the victim. And want to play the smart one by making a stupid comment passing as a sarcastic. Instead of recognize that we as customers play dumb and keep paying money for sh**tthat is not worth it!
As soon as he brought race into it I knew no matter what I wouldn’t buy these
this really isn't relevant to this video, but, did you ever think about slicing up some cycling shoes? I'd be really interested to see what you thought about some sidi, bont or s-works shoes and how they're made (if you do do this, wear a mask when you do the cutting, carbon fiber dust is bad for your lungs)
I second this. Also do a flat mountain bike shoe
Tan Govans looks dope 🥶
What a cool story! I don't wear these type of shoes but this is fantastic regardless, I wish Govan all the best! Also, what a great company photo!
I don't mind sponsored reviews because of bias - I trust Weston to be as honest as anyone can while still making enough money to eat - but it bugs me that Govan has to pay for a review while Nike gets reviewed for free (actually, they get paid for the sneakers). I'm not throwing shade, I understand the economics of why it works that way and I don't know how to fix the problem. But the unfairness is a bummer.
Nobody would have heard of govan otherwise. There are Nikes everywhere, I'm interested to see them cut open as they are a likely choice for the average consumer. I'd never find Govans in a shop where I live and they are only of interest for me and would unlikely ever be purchased.
Considering I see big brands give far less for similar price tags, this seems like good value if that's your reference
After getting my first pair of Horween leather Crown Northampton sneaker I have never looked back. I now have 3 pairs and the fact that they can be resoled back to life.. they would pretty much out live me and keeps looking better as the Horween leather ages.
There’s one with better leather compared to regular AF1 called AF1 Craft. I think you should break those down it will be an interesting video. Love your videos btw ❤
After watching your videos, I change my mindset on buying sneakers. Do you think you can cut and review Yeezy 380 and Yeezy 700 V3? Shout out from PR 🇵🇷
Please evaluate the $25 Walmart sneakers. Thanks, Ken
The af1 look like they creases less but the shape is absolutely horrendous. I actually prefer the natural creases more than bent cardboard imo
AF1 creases in an ugly unappealing way. You should try out the AF1 craft, the soft leather creases beautifully and they're more comfortable as well.
I don't think we should be expecting any less creasing even with most of the "higher quality" leathers used for sneakers. A lot of these leathers are still corrected grain rather than true full grain (not sure about Govans), and I think there's just diminishing returns trying to lengthen the pristine look lifespan by upping the leather quality past a point whereby sneakers becomes too expensive to own. IMO Puma has done a great job that was achieved through better shoe design- Look at how the way they made the Ralph Sampson- there's 2 ridges at the end of the tongue that would accommodate precisely where your toes would flex, eliminating most possibilities of crease marks. If you want something retro-looking, hate creases, allows for your own orthotics and usually cost less than AF1s, that's a good option.
If you value durability and longevity in a shoe, something tells me you aren't exactly in the market for a pair of Air Force Ones.
Also the higher quality leather will last longer and look better over time.
Wondering about the resoleability.
If they did some rough out or heavily tumbled leather in the crease points it would also look better for longer.
Can you look at Air Force 1 High Sculpt? I just bought a pair on sale and to me they feel like much better quality than most othe AF1s I had in hand
hi. i wonder of you guys can do some cycling shoes. they are some of the most overpriced and heavily marketed sports equipment. and because cycling can get super expensive on the super enthusiast/pro level, the cycling shoes can get up to 300$. thanks for the good work and nice videos.
Well they cost twice as much as the "original", so obviously they can afford better materials and quality...
For twice the price you can get two pairs of air forces and wear both and they whould last for a long time
Hows the sizing on the Basketeers?? Can’t seem to find any sizing info anywhere. They don’t have 1/2 sizes so trying to figure out if I go with 11 or 12. Thanks 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Id love to see how these compare to the lunar forces and how the tech in each shoe differs!
Super interesting discussion on value. I definitely agree
would like a review on the Twisted X Men's Lace-Up Chukka Driving Moc review and sizing !! How about it !!
Maybe you should try the Hender Scheme version of AF1? For the “finalest” decision ahah
You should do a comparison of the Reebok club C 85 vs the club C 85 vintage. I have a pair of Adidas continental 80, which they don’t sell anymore, and a pair of Reebok club C 85s and the Adidas are much more comfortable than the Reeboks I believe the sole is a solid chunk of foam in the adidas and just a rubber cup sole with big voids in it on the Reebok, kind of like the Stan Smith. I think the vintage ones are slightly higher quality and made a similar way to the Adidas. Who knows this might change though because I believe Reebok just got sold. You could also throw a pair of the continental 80s into the comparison but since you can’t buy them retail anymore there’s probably no point in doing that.
great video!! can you do a video on palladium boots?
I think most people that enjoy sneakers and especially this type of sneaker, they need force fields to stop the creasing from happening. Been using force fields in these tyoes of sneakers for years and its the only way to stop them from creasing right away.
No score on centering the cut on the heal? Your slippin bro.
How do they fit?
He's... Very proud to just knock off a popular shoe, charge double for it, and rationalize it as some social victory.
Try the John Elliot af1 supposedly it has double the leather and a lunarlon super thick insole w zoom
If you are concerned about your sneakers creasing, newsflash no one cares. Great video as always.
Can you review the Nocta Air Force 1? They’re the new all white Air Force 1 collab and it’s supposed to have really high quality leather.
Check out the AF1 Craft, they seem to be made of better (softer) leather.
You mean the one he just cut open and it was dogshit?
@@fioredeutchmark nope, those are the fresh. Crafts got a suede heel tab.
ever thought of cutting open the sb force 58? suede and leather versions?
I would definitely favour the Govan shoes over AF1s if I'm supporting the little guy. Nike is definitely not a great company.
Great company or not, stealing someone's design, claiming to make it premium, and selling it for two times the price is not a great thing to do.
@@shaggyrogers9028 stealing someone's design? You mean like Nike Pumps?? 😂😂
Great video, man! I am wondering if you have any opinions on JK boots? How do they compare to Nick's boots, since they are in the similar price point. Will you review a pair of them in the future? Thanks man!
Can you cut an our legacy camion boot, very hyped within fashion circles and would love to see your thoughts
You know what is interesting about this is that I just watched a video about wearing fake or inspired clothes. This shoe would fit under that type of shoe. Not actually fake or a replica but still inspired so some times according to that other video still called a rep. It was a very interesting video.
Just received ny new Gowan’s went for the Honey they are lovely. Great thanks from the UK for your review
You should cut open the Rick Owens drkshdw Ramones, I’m really curious if there’s a shank in the midsole because they are very stiff on feet but comfortable and give support.
Govan might crease a bit more but still looks waaaay better vreased up and holds its shape very well too.