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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  10 месяцев назад +24

    ➡ Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @unotoli
      @unotoli 10 месяцев назад

      2x2 collaborations? or 2 weak vs 1 superior?

    • @supremegreaser2399
      @supremegreaser2399 10 месяцев назад +1

      Is there a supermarine spitfire model?

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 10 месяцев назад +1

      Please create a scenario with NGAD, SR-72, & B-21!

    • @tmytyson
      @tmytyson 10 месяцев назад +1

      Battle of the Canards: A dogfight battle royale featuring (at a minimum) the Eurofighter Typhoon, SU30SM Flanker-H, and JAS39 Gripen. May the best 'nard win.

    • @wisco_guy
      @wisco_guy 10 месяцев назад

      Would love to see either the F4U Corsair or the P51D with the Merlin engine fight against the Bf-109. The British Mk24 Spitfire would be cool, too.

  • @Paddyboy005
    @Paddyboy005 10 месяцев назад +351

    I like the battles you have with Toxic. He seems to be one of the more challenging opponents.

    • @laymanengineer7502
      @laymanengineer7502 10 месяцев назад +11

      Yeah. Toxic is one hell of an airplane pilot!

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 10 месяцев назад +10

      Agreed; also, I too love these WWII fights.

    • @justsmallstuff4994
      @justsmallstuff4994 10 месяцев назад +13

      Toxic is an absolute gun of a pilot. I'm pretty sure he has the best K/D ratio against GS compared to the rest of opponents.

  • @Boslandschap1
    @Boslandschap1 10 месяцев назад +518

    If you miss making WW2 videos, just make more of them.
    It's as simple as that 😄

    • @17VINCE
      @17VINCE 10 месяцев назад +17

      I second this lol

    • @J-P88
      @J-P88 10 месяцев назад +11

      Third

    • @zentriel
      @zentriel 10 месяцев назад +9

      Fourth

    • @ChillingIceCube
      @ChillingIceCube 10 месяцев назад +5

      Completely agree,

    • @alets6211
      @alets6211 10 месяцев назад +2

      🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @collinlingaitis8872
    @collinlingaitis8872 10 месяцев назад +204

    As someone who had spent far too much of his life on flight sims in the WW1/WW2 eras: P51's biggest advantage is her speed. Going too slow in a P51 is always a mistake. Big 2 circle fights keeping the Mustang fast, especially if you can put that circle off set a bit because most American plans have amazing energy retention. Personally I tend to think 6 .50cals are better than 1 heavy cannon (the ability to just hose a target is easier than being precise with a bigger gun)

    • @hound83
      @hound83 10 месяцев назад +33

      True. For dogfights probably the 30mm was not the best choice, for me i always have the feeling the 30mm is there for the effect on bigger targets like bombers, its not optimal for fighter engagements....

    • @mrchrispy13
      @mrchrispy13 10 месяцев назад +40

      not to mention the P-51 is meant to fight at high altitude, not on the deck; unless we're talking about the A's

    • @bimsbarkas
      @bimsbarkas 10 месяцев назад +18

      Cutting the engine is an immediate loss, pretty much.
      Also, turning at all with the 109 should lose, if there is tobe a chance in such, the p51s faster roll might be the only way.

    • @monkeykingenma
      @monkeykingenma 10 месяцев назад +18

      @@bimsbarkas p51 has a gsuit the 109 does not. keep the p51 fast and use combat flap and u can outturn that 109

    • @ericx777
      @ericx777 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@hound83 I think the 30 Mike-Mike was more for taking down B-17's, B-24's and Avro Lancaster's. Against an agile fighter like the Spitfire or 'Stang, yea, way too slow unless you were within 100m.

  • @billymorgan8870
    @billymorgan8870 10 месяцев назад +78

    Love the WW2 dogfights! So much more up close and personal. Keep up the amazing work GS!

    • @larrym.9524
      @larrym.9524 10 месяцев назад +6

      Absolutely!!! More of "it's the pilot, not the plane" action.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 10 месяцев назад

      If you think WW2 is up close and personal, try WW1. Rise of Flight or Flying Circus.

  • @herrzimm
    @herrzimm 10 месяцев назад +32

    LOVE seeing more WW1 and WW2 content being considered. Some of the most intense and exciting fights happen when you have these "old fashioned" dogfights happen. Mostly because it isn't just about the technology, but the pilot CONTROLLING the technology.

  • @0neBadRabbit
    @0neBadRabbit 10 месяцев назад +59

    Hey GS, while you're on a WWII kick, can we see some Pacific Theater dogfights?
    Or maybe a fleet attack mission, flying air support for torpedo bombers/ dive bombers?
    And as always, thank you for your dedication to cranking out top tier content, you give me something to nerd-out to everyday 😂

    • @zanaduz2018
      @zanaduz2018 10 месяцев назад +6

      There aren’t many Pacific Theatre assets in either IL-2:GB or DCS; he’d need to get into IL-2: 1946 to have a Pacific Theatre combat

    • @0neBadRabbit
      @0neBadRabbit 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@zanaduz2018 that's a shame. Pacific Theater had some impressive aircraft, and often gets overlooked in favor of European Theater. (Wasn't as "romantic", maybe? Just US vs. Japan, instead of the world vs. a madman)

    • @urviechalex9963
      @urviechalex9963 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@0neBadRabbit The Japanese leadership was definitely mad enough!

    • @urviechalex9963
      @urviechalex9963 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I would like to see him in a Ki-84!

    • @harrisonpowers4265
      @harrisonpowers4265 2 месяца назад +1

      @@0neBadRabbit Keep your eyes peeled on Combat Pilot. The Pacific Theater means a lot to me more personally (Dad served in the Navy) but also the F4F is one of my favorite dogfighters of that era.

  • @onenaner
    @onenaner 10 месяцев назад +37

    more WW2 content? not complaining! love this content, keep it up man

  • @lwrncschmchr
    @lwrncschmchr 10 месяцев назад +10

    You can tell when GS is having to work hard to win, and the combination of that K4 and Toxic's piloting, definitely made him work.

  • @the_beef4762
    @the_beef4762 10 месяцев назад +3

    Never get sick of WW2 bird videos. There's just something special about them. Much more intense than launching AMRAAMS from 60 miles then diving while listening to beeping. Though I do love those as well, the WW2 birds are the OG.

  • @KenVic02
    @KenVic02 10 месяцев назад +9

    Great matchup. I love how the unique howl of the Mustang is recreated as well. That's the subject of a lot of debate over the years... supercharger, radiator, etc. Saw a video from a guy who's restored them and he said it's from the longer gun tubes of the inner most guns (not barrel lengths of the guns themselves, they're all the same of course). As a result, a Helmholtz resonance is formed at certain speeds and angles of attack. Fascinating!

  • @whiplash8277
    @whiplash8277 10 месяцев назад +7

    Thanks for more WWII content, Winder. You're skill is a pleasure to watch.

  • @j.s.unknkown7870
    @j.s.unknkown7870 10 месяцев назад +4

    Been loving your content a lot lately! Keep up the good work ❤

  • @lordhickory3322
    @lordhickory3322 10 месяцев назад +15

    Love all the WW2 content lately!

  • @jdrmd1
    @jdrmd1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Much respect GS!!!!! You are a great pilot, a great youtuber and have the best attitude....Thanks for showing me I'm not the only one that gets beat by the me 109....I am not in your league but glad to see you have to work hard for the kill...Keep the great content coming!!!!

  • @Kjell777Iverson
    @Kjell777Iverson 10 месяцев назад +2

    That 2nd fight was highly entertaining. Nice work as always, GS.

  • @SledgeFox
    @SledgeFox 10 месяцев назад +2

    WW2 fights are most exciting, thank you very much!

  • @gerrit85100
    @gerrit85100 10 месяцев назад

    Cool video! Especially the second dogfight! Loved it!

  • @ianpopp87
    @ianpopp87 10 месяцев назад +1

    MAN that's a tough fight. You did an admirable job. Love your vids man, keep being awesome.

  • @slimycheerio4026
    @slimycheerio4026 10 месяцев назад +4

    Yooo love seeing the Ww2 dogfights!!!!!!!

  • @nathanrawling4353
    @nathanrawling4353 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of the best you've done. Well done to you sir

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just LOVE these WWII fights! Thanh you.

  • @JRGProjects
    @JRGProjects 10 месяцев назад +1

    Pilots in WW2 never got into turning fights with the BF and ME 109s. They always went vertical and powered up like you did toward the end of round two.

  • @unixfool
    @unixfool 10 месяцев назад +1

    YASSSS!!
    I'd asked if you could show a similar fight as your last, but with you piloting the P-51 and you delivered!

  • @thiagorodrigues5211
    @thiagorodrigues5211 10 месяцев назад +1

    last one was way more intense than all dogfights from modern jets. No wonder people still like dogfights in movies so much

  • @donutdefender2693
    @donutdefender2693 10 месяцев назад

    I was actually on the edge of my seat for the whole vid! Great fights!

  • @samcy9551
    @samcy9551 10 месяцев назад

    good going GS so refreshing to see WW2 dogfights.

  • @mochieiineko72
    @mochieiineko72 10 месяцев назад +2

    Always a good day when GS uploads

  • @jay-nb6uk
    @jay-nb6uk 15 дней назад

    love all the content you make but the WWII dogfights is what brings me back the most!!

  • @fedo18
    @fedo18 10 месяцев назад

    I love how you can fly and explain the situation at the same time

  • @GrybbC
    @GrybbC 10 месяцев назад +16

    it seems the biggest flaw of the K-4 in the dogfight is the MK108's velocity making it difficult to aim at fighters. Some K-4s were fitted with the regular MG151 20mm instead, I wonder how much of a difference that would make. Love the WW2 videos!

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 10 месяцев назад +6

      One iteration of K’s featured two 20’s and the 30, along with 13mm guns in the nose. All you’d need is one good pass on anything to kill it. Made them real pigs tho.

    • @dscott6629
      @dscott6629 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@air-headedaviator1805 Bomber killers.

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement 10 месяцев назад +6

      If the DCS Mustang ran the correct historical horsepower setting it would be interesting aswell. But can’t have it all? Allied planes seem to always be shacked in these so called “Sims” I wonder why is that not the case for axis planes only allied planes in sims other then IL2 GB?
      The mustang in DCS is missing over 200HP! How is it you’re stuck at 61” of manifold pressure when by the time the G6 came out it was running 72” and 75”??? British mustangs ran 81”! So wtf is the DCS devs doing? Let me guess “balance”.

    • @momotheelder7124
      @momotheelder7124 10 месяцев назад

      I also think six 50 cals is a much better armament solution when the pilot needs to fire spontaneously without a guarantee of every hit connecting-you can afford to spray a bit with the 50 cals and see what happens-not so with the 60 rounds of 30 mm.

  • @kentwilliams3326
    @kentwilliams3326 3 месяца назад

    OUTSTANDING! Thanks, was a cliff hanger for sure. Forgot to breath...

  • @donakahorse
    @donakahorse 10 месяцев назад +1

    awesome, thank you, I wanted to see this. Toxic is a great pilot, well done both of you

  • @gjoinolywa5850
    @gjoinolywa5850 10 месяцев назад +1

    Most competitive fight I’ve seen on GS channel. Fun to watch. Too often you just crush your opponent. Fun to see you sweat!

  • @piedpiper4450
    @piedpiper4450 10 месяцев назад

    i love your channel man amazing content! also more 109 related content please its amazing to watch you fight 109s or fight in em. you make it look so easy.

  • @icaleinns6233
    @icaleinns6233 10 месяцев назад

    Always fun to watch the WW2 fights as well as F-22 mission videos.

  • @j.s.unknkown7870
    @j.s.unknkown7870 10 месяцев назад +3

    Those world war 2 dogfights were truly something different

  • @jasonanalco542
    @jasonanalco542 10 месяцев назад +6

    Please do Japan's heavy hitters vs Whistling Death. The F-4U Corsair. Thank you for another excellent bit of content

    • @oborozukiyo73
      @oborozukiyo73 10 месяцев назад

      Japan's heavy hitters vs P-51 Mustang; would be epic DCS' P-51 model already looks like those flying from Iwo Jima, just bristling with dorsal & chin antennae... Would love to see how the Mustang stacks up against the K-100, Hayate & Shiden

  • @The_Ren
    @The_Ren 10 месяцев назад +1

    You have to get the Spitfire in these WWII battles. Love these dogfights. Reminds me of my old MS Combat Flight Sim days.

  • @bobjones6154
    @bobjones6154 10 месяцев назад

    dude what a fight! that was legit really cool.

  • @hariszark7396
    @hariszark7396 10 месяцев назад +3

    I would really like to see 2 vs 2 or 4 vs 4 WWII fights.
    Those really can have much more realism and challenges than just 1 vs 1 fights.

    • @dscott6629
      @dscott6629 10 месяцев назад

      A 4v4+ would be cool as it would bring tactics into play but I'm guessing bringing in other quality gamers into the mix would also bring in additional scheduling issues.

    • @hariszark7396
      @hariszark7396 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@dscott6629 nothing that can't be arranged I bet.

  • @patrickwilliment2462
    @patrickwilliment2462 10 месяцев назад +6

    Keep the WW2 content....much more exciting than shooting a missile from 912 miles away

  • @davidhermosilla6942
    @davidhermosilla6942 10 месяцев назад

    I truly thank you for these p51 K4 duels. I have been flying years ww2 fighters and the k4 is actually impossible to defeat. Average pilots on this plane throw me off the sky with no effort. I keep my hopes high in practice and practice. I watch these videos over and over till get every single tip you put on them. Thanks and please more!

  • @hariszark7396
    @hariszark7396 10 месяцев назад +2

    10:50 here is the advantage of wing guns against nose guns.
    You can take some distant hard shots way easier because of the bullets spread.

  • @SnaketheJake87
    @SnaketheJake87 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you kindly

  • @zacsawesomeworld2767
    @zacsawesomeworld2767 10 месяцев назад +5

    I’m loving this ww2 content.

  • @Falckodotcom
    @Falckodotcom 10 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutly amazing dogfight!
    I could listen to the external shots all day long, the raw engine noises combined with the guns ... doesn't get any better than that!

  • @mitchr752
    @mitchr752 10 месяцев назад

    That was intense.... great vid

  • @danilomiranda9175
    @danilomiranda9175 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very great video mate. Grate fights. If i can give you a suggestion, try to use little or no aileron imputs while using the rudder at low speeds. This will help uou to avoid entering a spin

  • @manzelli1981
    @manzelli1981 10 месяцев назад

    1:32 Always loved the howl from Merlin engines

  • @babouras123
    @babouras123 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's amazing to see the amount of punishment these old machines could take before falling!

  • @j.s.unknkown7870
    @j.s.unknkown7870 10 месяцев назад

    The howling of those aircraft is really satisfying

  • @firstchevalier
    @firstchevalier 10 месяцев назад

    Another 1-1 in a great pair of fights. I really want to see best out of three, especially when the fights are this good please.

  • @poloptree2
    @poloptree2 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love the ww2 stuff. Always great to see the 'knife fight' like you called it

  • @dairyqueenshake6719
    @dairyqueenshake6719 10 месяцев назад

    I liked the shooting during the merge engagement at 6:10 because I felt like it sort of fit the context and it was something different, plus it looked cool.

  • @craigwycinsky3889
    @craigwycinsky3889 8 месяцев назад

    Love the paint job on the P-51. ❤

  • @ThunderBatGames
    @ThunderBatGames 10 месяцев назад +2

    MORE WARBIRDS! You should do some more IL-2 while you're at it, and bring some love to Great Battles!

  • @lucasbourne36
    @lucasbourne36 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love the ww2 content man ! Keep it up

  • @LazyShoby
    @LazyShoby 10 месяцев назад

    "He'd got my 6" at 7:08 .. lolz

  • @Chimla
    @Chimla 10 месяцев назад +2

    yes i love this, please keep up the WW2 content!!

  • @juaniravaioli
    @juaniravaioli 9 месяцев назад

    THESE WW2 VIDEOS ARE AWESOME

  • @allenarneson4349
    @allenarneson4349 10 месяцев назад +2

    GS - According to the movie Redtails - I think if you kill the throttle, pull hard on the stick with full rudder the Mustang will stall and the prop will pull you around quickly. I remember seeing that on the movie and again a pilot from WW2 (The Blue Nosed Bastards of Botany) described the same maneuver. Maybe try that when the K4 is on your tail.

    • @FlatDrifting265
      @FlatDrifting265 10 месяцев назад

      It defies the laws of physics bro

  • @noodles12321
    @noodles12321 10 месяцев назад +1

    2 of some of the coolest planes

  • @Thpossamai
    @Thpossamai 10 месяцев назад

    Dcs does an amazing job replicating ww2 dogfights

  • @thickoc4539
    @thickoc4539 10 месяцев назад

    Prop planes!! Love these up close and personal videos. Like a knife fight with air planes. Sure hope to see some zeros shot down in the future

  • @shadekerensky3691
    @shadekerensky3691 10 месяцев назад +2

    Would love to see the Me-262 vs. the Mig-15

  • @pr0skis
    @pr0skis 10 месяцев назад +6

    Hey GS since you're doing WWII dogfights would it be possible to see some 2v2 fights? would be real interesting... and spicy 😃

  • @jamesmaddison4546
    @jamesmaddison4546 10 месяцев назад

    Beautiful move around 2mins in. I cant remember his name but he wrote that manual and was known for saying give me 30seconds and ill have a guy off my 6 and Infront of me, in that manual he had that move broke down step by step.
    You executed it perfectly

    • @RaptorMaitre
      @RaptorMaitre 10 месяцев назад

      I think that was a High Yoyo.

  • @HeatMyShorts
    @HeatMyShorts 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome. Well done! I dont think it was luck on the second round. He made an error by reversing his turn and you seized an opportunity. That first round was tense!!

  • @Barry287
    @Barry287 10 месяцев назад

    I used to fly with Toxic in ACG. He's always been one helluva 109 pilot!!!

  • @sivaro1
    @sivaro1 2 месяца назад

    You really made the P 51 dance.

  • @lennyprestia4231
    @lennyprestia4231 10 месяцев назад

    That was awesome. Can’t wait for the F4U to come out and do the 109 vs the Corsair

  • @fikipilot
    @fikipilot 10 месяцев назад

    Beautiful BEAUTIFUL

  • @thepsychoticone615
    @thepsychoticone615 10 месяцев назад

    awwww look He is going through his World War two phase again

  • @TheRaptorXX
    @TheRaptorXX 10 месяцев назад

    MORE! MORE!! LOVE it...

  • @SootHead
    @SootHead 10 месяцев назад

    YOU EARNED THAT ONE!

  • @James_T_Kirk_1701
    @James_T_Kirk_1701 10 месяцев назад

    Finally! some warbird content

  • @mattt525
    @mattt525 10 месяцев назад

    Here for the algorithm my mans

  • @IM2a1
    @IM2a1 10 месяцев назад

    I didn't realise that Bf-109 was so good. Thanks for the video.

    • @YuFow
      @YuFow 10 месяцев назад +1

      It was the pilot who made it look that good. The 109 actually had a slower turn rate than the p51

    • @Keckegenkai
      @Keckegenkai 10 месяцев назад

      @@YuFow but the pilot is still limited to what he got

    • @YuFow
      @YuFow 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Keckegenkai oh for sure, but the pilot is probably as bigger factor as the plane itself

  • @ArcaneActual
    @ArcaneActual 10 месяцев назад +3

    I dont know if I missed the video already but i would love to see a merge with helis. AH64 v KA50 or others

  • @filippofior3722
    @filippofior3722 10 месяцев назад

    always nice to see some WII fighters. Would love to see an Mc-205

  • @wackswax8423
    @wackswax8423 10 месяцев назад

    Recreate BOLO. F-4, MiG 21, f-105 & SA2. Could also be cool to do a modern day “thud ridge” reenactment? Like f-18s v SA6 or something if the “Nam” era planes aren’t on DCS. Just something about gun engagements or old school missile fighting. It’s up close & personal. Like fly fishing vs bait fishing or something lol. Always love the content. 5:05 moment lmao. Good stuff.

  • @egapnee5619
    @egapnee5619 10 месяцев назад +1

    I really like those WW2 fights, I whish DCS could develop more in that direction.

  • @SilverbladeDagger
    @SilverbladeDagger 10 месяцев назад

    "Ah, he's on my six" and as The Mighty Jingles would say, "Here comes the unexpected butt secks". 🤣

  • @Subcleff
    @Subcleff 10 месяцев назад

    Damn, the second round was a good fight!

  • @DiamantisGR
    @DiamantisGR 10 месяцев назад

    Nice fight. It would be great to see more WW2 era fights. Perhaps even larger scale.

  • @torariders313
    @torariders313 10 месяцев назад +1

    but but but the P-51 is the greatest WW2 fighter.... hahaha! Epic video man!

  • @Uselessnoobcow
    @Uselessnoobcow 10 месяцев назад

    WW2 dogfights rock!

  • @Honu-up3ou
    @Honu-up3ou 10 месяцев назад

    Yes, more WWII videos!

  • @AviationPlus
    @AviationPlus 10 месяцев назад

    Now this is a relevant BFM video.

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro 10 месяцев назад

    When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!

  • @somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway
    @somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway 10 месяцев назад +1

    At this point I would watch you hand fly paper airplane scenarios man! Your videos are excellent and exceeded only by your skills as a civilian sim pilot.

  • @SliceofLife7777
    @SliceofLife7777 9 месяцев назад

    Kurt Tank's Butcher Bird was Germany's best piston fighter. Later models, (primarily the Dora) addressed the earlier models lack of high altitude performance. And I suggest that the M and N models of the P47 were America's best fighter in the European theater.

  • @fabricio-agrippa-zarate1000
    @fabricio-agrippa-zarate1000 Месяц назад

    "lots of oil leaking out"
    Human oils 😂

  • @ChillingIceCube
    @ChillingIceCube 10 месяцев назад

    So close to 500k subs,

  • @blizzardmichael
    @blizzardmichael 10 месяцев назад

    Brilliant

  • @gabrielcox3599
    @gabrielcox3599 10 месяцев назад +1

    What version of the p51 is that? You give the 109 but not the 51. Love your vids!!

  • @mikes8948
    @mikes8948 10 месяцев назад +3

    Love the WWII stuff...any chance of F4U Corsair or F6F Hellcat fights?

  • @T25de
    @T25de 10 месяцев назад

    Great fight 👍

  • @stevecaponio4484
    @stevecaponio4484 10 месяцев назад

    Damn, blood pumper right there