It Melts? Why Did the Company Do This? Trangia Kettle Real Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Today Luke is reviewing a lightweight aluminum kettle that is made by Trangia in Sweden. It’s very basic and also, very inexpensive.
Question, why did they make it like this? They really should know better.
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Trangia Kettle Review :
Materials : Aluminum kettle, plastic grab knob, plastic handle cover, stainless steel handle mount and knob post
Dimensions : 3” high x 6” wide
Weight : 6.7oz
Price : $25
Versions : 20oz, 30oz, 47oz
Review Pros :
- Lightweight
- Sturdy enough considering it’s made from aluminum.
- Very good quality
- Good size options - the 30oz version is the sweet spot in my opinion, not too big, not too large.
- The price is excellent
- Pour spout is good
- Small vent hole in lid is a welcomed feature
- Handle locks into place when standing
Review Cons :
- Plastic Grab Knob - It will melt if you aren’t careful - I’ve been careful but there are plenty of reports of this happening even when using it on a Trangia Alcohol stove. I’m not sure why the company has done this to be honest, they have been around since 1925 and really should know better than to use plastic. If you like, you could drill out the rivet and replace the knob with something more heat resistant.
- Handle insulation again is made of plastic and will burn off
- No storage bag included to hold the components together. For $25 though, I’m ok with it. If this was more expensive, one should be provided.
Review Summary :
For the money, this is easily recommendable. It’s only $25 and it does everything that you would want from a kettle. The only issues that I have are with the plastic materials which are perplexing….like I mentioned earlier, the company really should know better.
This is a no frills kettle and there isn’t anything fancy about it…it costs $25 so if you keep your expectations in check I think you’ll like this product and get a lot of good use from it.
It’s a $25 aluminum kettle that unfortunately has plain-jane plastic on it that hot water will melt.
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The kettle is part of the Trangia cook system. That particular model is the Trangia 25 meant for 2 or more people in a group. It's not designed with anything else in mind certainly not bushcrafting/cooking over an open fire. It's designed to work with the Trangia spirit or gas burner in cold weather, for boiling water, that's it. It doesn't need a case/valise as it nests within the cook system. As for it being aluminium, they've been that way since the first Trangia's were built over 50 years ago. It's a timeless/classic design, I have the Trangia 27 system myself.
Sorry, just seen your response. Mine’s similar but without reading yours first. 🙏🏻
Same here. Use the kettle as intended for heating water, then use pots or pans with the intended heating source.
The plastic handle on the kettle I use at home on my stove will melt too if used for something other than just heating water long enough to boil.
Agree except my handle melt while using the 27 set, not the fire. I don't know what happened that day, but my alcohol stove was spitting. Melted before I even realized it. At least they sell replacement handle wrappings.
That is some very key information
Agree100%. It's designed to boil water. Wanna make coffee? Boil the water and use a filter press or, if you want to make cowboy coffee, use one of the bowls supplied with the kit. I bought my Trangia cook setaround 1985/6 and it's still going strong.
Like many I have used the Trangia Storm Cooker system for about 60+ years with no burning issues at all!!! However, I have used the kettles within their design parameters and only used them on an open fire less than 1/2doz times. If you use any equipment for something it wasn’t designed for you must expect it to fail sooner rather than later! Regards from deepest Dorset England 🇬🇧🇺🇸😊
I have this exact same kettle, and both cons (the plastic bits and the cover) are solved by the fact that this kettle is supposed to be used with trangia's trekking kitchen. No problems with melting plastics AT ALL, and the kettle fits perfect within the rest of the kitchen, taking up no more space than you already used.
Yeah, this wasnt meant to be a standalone product. You’re basically just buying a replacement part for a trangia cooking set
@@my_handle.... precisely! I have the 27 i think now that i think of it, perhaps the one in the vid was the 25 as well. Absolutely perfect cooking set when you have the kettle! Small, compact, lots of different things, lightweight, effective!
Been using my kettle for a few years and replaced a few times, anyone know how bad it is for aluminium poisoning?
Never melted mine yet, twenty years of use and still going strong 💪
I've had my Trangia set for nearly 25 years. Has never let me down 👍
I have been using one with the trangia system for 2 years now. No issues at all. That's all 👍
Perhaps a little more research on the products you review. As others have commented, the kettle is part of a cook "set". It's not really intended to be used alone nor thrown on top of a raging fire. I love my Trangia set!
I suspect that Luke has not researched that specific kettle make and it's design application.
Its supposed to go with the matching kitchen set, hence why there is no bag included.
I've been using their kettles for years, with cannister and alcohol stoves. I've never had any handle melting issues.
I am not sure if anyone noted this. There are multiple versions of that kettle on Trangia's website. Except for the largest size (1.4L), there is a version of each that have a stainless-steel handle. There are also two versions (one with the plastic knob) that have a detachable side handle (Trangia notes these as being for open flame). I always enjoy your reviews.
As I mentioned in the video where the kettle was first shown, they have a version with a stainless knob. Problem solved. Also, if you're expecting flame to reach the handle, take off the plastic. The kettle is absolutely fine and shockingly.... Even cheaper when bought in Sweden, about 20 bucks or so for it. I have the 0.6L version.
This is the right answer. Best regards from Sweden.
Yeah I bought the 25 at a discount, for 40€ and sold the kettle brand new for 20 lol
I see no use for the kettle if I have the pots. Only in the case you’d need to cook with fire, then it’d be great to have! But I make my coffee and tea on the pots where I cook. I cook, eat, rinse and then boil water in them. It’s part of the cleaning process and I always get a nice little cuppa at the end, as a reward
If used within it's designed cooking system... then the plastic and rubber are no worries at all. I've had one for years and years and have nearly exclusively used it on open camp fires...of course, the handle rubber and the plastic knob are long, long gone. Rubber on the handle is not needed, so worries there and the knob was long ago replaced with a small craved wooden branch tied to a knoted cord that goes through the screw hole in the lid and does the job. Cheap as chips and with my usage (very frequent use) lasts about 10-15 years before the base starts to leak. I just love them.
Re: the plastic; If the handle wrap melts you've let it get too hot to handle, you're doing something wrong.
As for the lid, just get the version with a stainless knob.
Wood stoves have a completely different flame profile from gas stoves. The tiniest breeze will cause flames to lick up around the side of cookware with wood.
Before I even looked at the comments I knew there would be a lot people defending the Trangia kettle and rightly so, it’s a perfect kettle for its intended use.
Personally I use the GSI SS kettle for open fires.
You can buy a version of the trangia kettle that has a metal tab instead of the plastic. If you’re looking for a durable stainless steel campfire kettle though, I’d recommend the Eagle Products Kettle!
I have this exact kettle. The Plastic on the Handle is removable so it doesnt melt. I had this kettle in a fire (Without the lid) and the handle plastic did not melt after i put it back on after getting the kettle out of the fire. Also while boiling water normaly the Lid does not realy get that hot. Personaly i doubt any of that plastic melts without some sort of user error.
It realy is a good kettle. Also a realy good video about it!
I have replaced the lid handle with a small hardwood one I made myself, and took the insulation off the kettle handle. Great reviews
I have an 8 year old one...all black now...still in great condition!
Love this channel.....Luke your the man......🌲
You can order one with a stainless steel knob.
Great review looks alot like my fire Maple kettle which I really really like thanks again for the review look great job
The design is primarily for using in the Trangia storm-cooker system (which usually won’t melt the handle cover). You will notice though a longitudinal split in the handle cover. This is so the cover can be removed and easily re-installed if using on a fire or a stove with larger flame patterns. :-)
I've had a lightweight Trangia 27 storm stove for decades and now use it with the isobutane /propane burner for sub-zero. It's safer than meths. The 0.6 litre kettle is designed to boil water inside the upper windshield. If you want to cook soup on an open fire then use the 2.5 L Trangia lidded billy pot, it doesn't have plastic components.
I guess they put the plastic on so that it wouldn’t be too hot to touch. What materials would you suggest they use on the handle and the grab tab, as you call it?
Silicon heat resistant plastic. Bakalite style hard composite. Wood knob.
This is the same grade generic nylon as on the $6 Walmart mess kit pot lid.
However if you cook on a small spirits or alcohol stove it won't deteriorate. If it does it and the handle insulator are easy replacements.
The Trangia kettle, pots and pans are designed to be used with the Trangia cooker systems ( alcohol, gas, multifuel burners) ONLY. Not to be used over open fires... For the obvious reasons. Back In the days of printed instructions there was a mention of it. 😉
Ive used the Trangia cooker systems 25 and 27 since 1994 and havent had any of the issues mentioned above. That said, Ive never used them over open fires.
Technically, I don't think he has either. His is just fine. He is just basing that off of other people.
But by doing so, he is just taking their word for it, with no knowledge of how they used it or treated it and slamming it in the CON column.
A REVIEW can only review what you see for yourself. You can't add something to the a CON when you haven't encountered it yourself.
I very much dislike how he puts things in the CON column many times and this is one of those things.
I have one of these kettles and found no issues with melting components. I found a nice drawstring bag to store it, and I can store my tiny stove inside it, plus hexa fuel, along with my cutlery, a cooking knife and a lot of other cooking-related tools. I've had this stove for over 20 years, but not too frequent usage.
Trangia now makes kettles with metal tab knob for lid for camp fire use.
The lid with plastic is designed to be used only with its burner or a stove where the fire is under the kettle not all around.
Keep up the great videos!!!!
For first, the kettle belongs to the Trangia Cooking kit for that reason it doesn't have a stuff bag. They do sell a stuff bag as an extra accessory. For Second, I love my GSI Stainless Steel Glacier Kettle, have you seen it? The Pathfinder bush pot is an Alternative to the kettle. Thanks
Had no problems with my Trangia kettle but it has never been used on an open fire. It is only used on an Optimist petrol stove or a Trangia. Quite a welcoming site watching the steam coming from the spout on a cold morning. Keep up with your reviews, thank you.
I used this kettle with the rest of the system for years. I never had problems, but I've used it on the system or on a regular (in my case a Coleman) gas stove burner. I love my system I have both the gas and the fluid option, they've never melted on me.
why make a bold statement with a question mark at the end for dramatic affect as a title?
Why not🤣?
I have the 20oz and absolutely love it. Plus for 25$ to own an iconic kettle like the Trangia is awesome for budget friendly gear.
You have that bargain Trangia 25 that you picked up a few years ago. This goes in there.
Nice light and simple, it works.. boiling water.. cookin noodles.. rice.. potatoes.. soup... aso. Knob works since 30 years without burning... the handle of the older kettles had a kind of plastic tube... wrap a leatherband should also work for repair.. silicon tube....
I have two Trangia kettles (25 & 27 range), both handles have melted but that was extended use on multiple open fires. I have not had the lid knob melt in all the years of use even on open fires.
Just use gloves when using the main handle and you'll be fine. Excellent all round construction. Fair review Luke as ever.
I watch a Swedish guy, Erik Normark, who camps, great photographer, lots of X-country skiing. Lots of making coffee in the smaller kettle on alcohol burner and open wood fires. Best real life use. I have the Norwegian kettle that's very hard to get a hold of one.
Hey Luke, really want to THANK U for your excellent.. and continued quality reviews.
U are amazingly unique my friend. No one is doing it at all like U. Your reviews help me IMMENSELY when it comes to possible upcoming purchases.
All that said.. Boundless Voyage 700ml Ti kettle is my JAMMM ! Perhaps too small for your needs..? But I am always SOLO. Thanks again Bro, keep rockin out the vids..!
i have it and use it as intended on the alcohol burner only, plastic handles fine. its my uk camping kit, timeless classic.
Can't say I agree with your cons on the Trangia kettle, which is very popular in Europe, bought either alone or usually as part of a Trangia cook set, for which it is designed. My Trangia 25 cook set, which came with a kettle is over 25 years old and still going strong. It is reaching the status of a family heirloom. I no longer use my kettle that frequently; I swapped it out for a stainless steel one which fits my Trangia cookset. The handle and pot lid plastic are as good as new. I've never heard of handles melting other than through carelessness, or as is more usual, the plastic being purposely removed for use on an open fire. The one thing I do hear is people using these on high output gas stove and forgetting to put water in first. If you leave them unattended even while grabbing your water bottle, chances are you will melt the bottom.
I have had mine for 35 years and if used as designed it will last forever. It’s also available with a metal grab tab for use on open fires.
It is the best kettle in the world and all the sacrifices as you mention do not exist.
This looks exactly like the kettle that Erik Normark uses in every one of his vids (makes coffee; thumbs up) and every one is watchable (and beautiful--so much for Sweden!). Yours are informative and well-made; his--well another view and as easily watched! Everyone here, Look up Erik.
I love the channel and thanks for all the great content. Would you have consider doing a video that chronicles all the camping stuff you have stored at your home? I'm always amazed at all the different gear you use on your various trip. Take care and God bless...please keep up the great work!
I got a Trangia kettle just like that one. Perhaps a little smaller. I love it, and I've used it extensively for 20 years now. No issues so far. I never use it on open fire. Those who do seem to "handle" it quite well though. 😉 just check out Erik Normark channel
I love my Trangia 27 kettle. I have only used it on my butane stove to boil water or milk. Haven't had an issue with it, I wouldn't use it on an open fire. I love all of my Trangia stuff!
I went with the FireMaple one and it is really nice.
I found an MSR pot at the Goodwill store for a couple of dollars, works great. I simply use a bandana as a bag for the kettle.
I have had my Trangia alcohol stove since 1978-80 or something like that. I just love that cock stove because it have all you need in a small packet. The stove 2 pots a pan and as extra the kettle. All packs in to one unit and for that you an get a pouch to keep your backpack clean inside when packing it down after use.base model have an alcohol burner, then there are butan/propane burner or even a multi fuel burner that you can add to it. Alcohol burner aren't the best in cold weather and butan/propane can also have problems with cold. The multi fuel is what I like but sadly I don't have one for my stove right now. Trangia is a family owned and operated company in the northern part of Sweden, they have been manufacturing this type of stuff for centuries and are one of the inventors of the modern camping stoves. Keep up with your fantastic work of testing the equipment on the market..
I have the GSI Halulite tea kettle and I absolutely love it.
I agree, I have the old style GSI Kettle it’s unbelievable. I’ve used it on every stove I have, alcohol, canister, but mostly over a fire, weather it be my Firebox stove or open fire. I took the rubber off the grab handle immediately. It’s never failed me. Cheers
I've had the same Trangia kettle for about 50 years without melting plastic issues. In fact the handle still has the original plastic cover and it has been used extensively. Only ever used it on a gas or Optimus/Primus paraffin pressure stoves.
On the Trangia website you can get a cover with a stainless-steel knob for $5.70 if you plan on using it over a fire or other higher heat situation. If you buy the kettle directly from them and order it with the stainless-steel knob the cost is only $1.60 more ($18.80 vs. $17.20). And of course, you mentioned that you can simply take the plastic part off the handle very easily any time you want. They also have covers in four different sizes if you want a Trangia bag for your Trangia kettle (priced from $4.00 to $6.80). I think that it does not come with a bag because it is part of a larger system that all nests together, I think the one you have would be part of the 25 series. It also may be that not everyone wants a bag, so to keep the costs low they offer it as an additional item.
MSR Stainless Steel Kettle 'Alpine Teapot' is pretty durable. I've got one somewhere!
Its for making coffee. That won’t damage it. You show it is fine for that use.👍
its for boiling water, not soup!!... as to no bag, I suspect its to replace or downsize. so you'd already have a cover for it.
Had my identical Trangia kettle for 30 years, it's intended to be used with the Trangia system with the spirit burner or the camping gas burner. Never had a problem with the plastic melting.
I've had my Trangia kettle ( red ) since '78. One of my best buys; nothing has melted. I use it on an Optimus 99 petrol stove. I suspect it will last me out.
Gsi all stainless kettle is good.
I think the trangia kettle is used for their alcohol burner and not for very intense fires.
Proud to have this company and factory 20 minutes from home.
Luke👍👍 Great kettle in all sizes really, plastic knob or steel version. I have the 27 size cook kit and it's OK for one albeit the kettle is smallish but works fine. Eagle products or GSI makes kettles worth merit as well. My favorite is the Eagle kettle(SS), bombproof with no plastic as is the GSI offering. Gotta love a kettle although a small pot will work.
Yep l agree not good over a raging fire but l have never ever had any problem with it with trangia cook kits. I use it frequently never melted any hardware nice video thanks
I found the rubber on the handle will melt a little if your trangia isn't on a level footing. The heat will concentrate it's flow out and over the kettle towards the opposite side of the lean. If you have it set on unlevel ground simply push the handle towards the lower side and it sits out of the heat flow. Job done
I’ve used Trangia kettles for over 50 years and still have my originals. They work great, light weight, well designed. Of course I’m not a fool and put aluminum in a hot wood fire or commercial grade gas stove. My recommendation is if you’re an inattentive klutz, then go with cast iron.
As a swede I have used some Trangia for many years. I bought exactly the same kettle some 30 years ago and still use it. I use it both with an alcohol burner and on open fire. Never any problems. I have only removed the plastic on the handle. The play knob on the lid is still ok. As long as you use some common sense when using an open fire all Trangias gear are supposed to be used this way as well
I liked the GSI kettle for the same thing, stainless steel, and same size, and fits in the TRANGIA 25.
Luke great review. While fairly new to the scene Firemaple makes a stainless steel kettle very similar to the Eagle kettles popular with many European bushcrafters. It’s about $10 more than the Trangia and 4 ounces heavier.
But if I’m worried about weight the tea kettle stays home.
I have this kettle, the smaller one, nests perfectly in the Trangia system and holds the stove inside. Cheap effective and does the job well. Not designed to be used over open fires. Love the Trangia system, fits together well and doesn’t rattle with a cloth inside. Plastic has never been effected within the Trangia system. I had a seamstress knock up some bespoke bags for my stuff from an old fleece shirt with the bases wrapped in an orange polyester material from an old orange swim suit. 7€ each bag.
I read on Amazon that the plastic handle kettle is not supposed to be used on an open flame. They have the same kettle with metal handles on it.
yep kettle would normally sit inside the rest of the trangia cook system. I don't "boil" boil water fully when making tea and coffee - after about 5-6 mins with the alcohol and I see small bubbles in pot or kettle or water too hot to touch and I pull it off, it would probably boil fully at 7 min 30 sec or so but why do we need to boil all the time?; saves fuel, helps prevents melting and you can drink it immediately.
Hi Luke , nice review. I find the same melting issue with a lot of the cheaper stuff I've bought over the years and finally bought an Eagle products ( from Norway) 1.5 litre stainless kettle last year. A work of art and bullet'proof. Not sure if you've tried this one yet but certainly worth a tryout. Cheers from a sunny and much warmer Malaysia 🇲🇾
I love the gsi kettle
Major Trangia head here, 25 and 27. I’ve never had issues with the plastic using alcohol stove hundreds of times. Well, One did melt when I left it on my home stove and ran it dry but it’s still usable.
I have the Trangia cookset. On the second outing the plastic handle melted. I agree, for a little extra money they could fit more robust components on the handle and lid.
This video should either be updated or retracted, due to the fact that:
If you want a Trangia kettle with a metal knob, Trangia sells kettles with metal knobs, and
If you want to replace your Trangia kettle's plastic knob with a metal knob, Trangia sells metal knobs for their kettles, and
No 'storage bag' is needed to hold the components together, as Trangia makes kettles that nest inside their cook sets.
I love my MSR Pika... small, but perfect for backpacking. Super light and so easy to use. The way it pours is where it shines. I just count as I pour to get the exact amount needed for rehydrating meals. And it's cute. Same caveat... wish it came with a bag. Just took it on a winter day hike and it is large enough for two cups of a warm beverage. While we are enjoying our beverage, I heat more water and pour it back into my water bottle for the return trip... again, that pour... no mess!
I am going for the Trangia Duossal full set with that kettle being part of it. Try and review that please! Seems like a no brainer when camping in a group or for handpicking parts when solo. ^^ I almost bought into fx pocket rocket or jetboil, untill a friend told me to check out Trangia set. Maybe it fill a bit more, but you get options and compatibility. I can't wait to try it. :) Trangia Storm Kitchen ftw.
These are nice I see some of the guys I watch from Germany sweater Norway use these
The GSI Halulite Kettle, is the best all around kettle. I’ve used mine over open fire and Trangia stoves, canister stoves. No warping, no issues at all .Has a nice blackened finish on the bottom. My go to . The new models have changed a bit with a flat handle, and seems a bit flimsy. You can still find the original style on eBay. Cheers
Try the Decathlon 1litre stainless kettle can be used with larger Trangia cook set
Hello luke, tranger kettle brilliant I've got one that is 15 years old new one not as good .Martin in Norfolk uk
I finally bought a kettle this past year. I still don't think a kettle is necessary...seems redundant. But, I got a titanium kettle from pomoly, with zero plastic on it, so I can use it on a stove, a fire, or sitting on hot coals. Not cheap but it's light and won't melt.
I had been looking for a kettle for a while, with a particular form factor in mind, but not finding anything satisfactory. Then I saw this one in one of your videos a while back and bought it that day. I have already taken the plastic on handle off, not sure what I will replace it with, or if I even will and just continue using a potholder. The grab tab however, I am thinking about just drilling out the rivet and putting a chunk of wood there with a screw. All I know, is the wide filling hole, with a low, wide body, combined with a pour spout with no strainer to collected old bits and get icky, is EXACTLY what I was looking for.
I use to use used tea bag to cleane off that black from the bottom of thos aluminum cook kits. ( english breakfast tea, or black tea )
I've had my $20 Cdn ALOCS CW-K02 CW-K03 Outdoor Water Kettle Teapot Coffee Pot 0.8L for over 8 years. Not a single issue. In fact one of the best camping accessories I have. All my buds liked it so much that they got their own.
The grab tab you can replace with a better one and the plastic on the handle you can replace. No big issue there
I've had the small kettle for 12 years now and like a a fair deal. Last year I added the medium size when I bought the larger Anodized cooking system for car camping. What is nice is how the kettles fit inside the trangia burners. The instructions on those kettles point out that the plastic handles is designed to be removable. Did you actually manage to melt the kettle lid plug? I use mine mostly with the alcohol burner but also have the butane burner - and have never managed to get the first sign of melting. If it were aluminum then it would get really hot - and we would have a different negative. As I said, I like mine but have bought the trangia inner holder for non-specific kettles and will buy a stainless steel Kettle next. Another good review. Thanks for taking the time to show all this gear to a wide audience.
I found silicone knobs and tubing to replace the plastic parts but they range from $2.00 to $13.00 so it is a trade off. I'd just be careful and if somethjing happens then go find a replacemement.
i have been using the exact same kettle for over 10 years and no issues at all
I've been using my Trangia kettle for about 35 years. I have never had any components melt, but then I use it with my trangia stoves.....I'm not aware that they were suitable for or intended for use on any other kind of heat source. Trangia stoves aren't the lightest things, and I don't ultralight hike with them now, but hands down, they provide the most enjoyable camp stove cooking experience you can have. Your mileage may vary.
I have this kettle and the pomoly which is expensive, prefer the pomoly and have binned the plastic handle on the Trangia as it began to melt not a deal breaker as such. Both worth having to me.
You seem to be forgetting that these are designed as part of a cook system, it's not really intended to be a stand alone item. When used as part of the system it is stored within the windshields and pots which are strapped together for storage. I do agree however with your point about the plastics. I have the same kettle and the plastic on the handle melted. Granted that was on a stove it was not designed for, but how hard would have been to use heat resistant material when the product is highly likely to be used outside it's design parameters. This suggests that the design team used to narrow parameters and didn't give enough consideration to the likely use of the product.
I'd love to see a review of the Kelly Kettle
Luke you make many great reviews, but this time you missed the research... This kettle is for a spirit burner only. There is version without the plastic if you intend to use it over open fire. Plus, this is a surplus normally part of a kit, therefore no bag.
my pot is 32yrs old and great. use with my 27 and 25 stoves.
I’ve heard people substitute the GSI stainless kettle and combine it with their trangia system. I would like trangia concept if it were stainless steel (weight is not an issue for my camping). I like versatility to go from campfire to PS propane stove to little backpacker isobutane stove.
Great review Luke, but I miss the metric grafics you use in other review videos 😁 thanks
Got this one it's awesome, worried about the handle remove it, you can put it back on. Extended cooking time do it with lid off.
All pretty easy eh.
I've used mine with pocket rocket, alcohol, stick burner, and hung on side of camp fire.. the review seemed fair, I just never had issues. ( mine lacks the plastic hanger)
I am a money miser being retired. I bought my first kettle at a Walmart in Virginia over five years ago and still using it. I believe the price was under five bucks and have only replaced the grab tab due to melting. It was replaced with a large screw that fit the hole. Gloves or a small towel prevent my hands from heat injuries. I just bought a new one from Walmart here in California for $6.94 and there is mo difference from the original except the grab tab is replaced with a large metal key ring and a spoon or fork handle can be used to remove the lid. The old one is still used in my garage to make coffee or tea.
I have the same, but smaller and i have no problem because i use only for hot drinks and i use on a butan stove. No alcohol or fire.
Luke I have the smallest trangia kettle and it will nest inside the seagul pot like a charm 20oz kettle / 1.1 ltr msr seagull pot
I had an older (90s?) version of this that was painted orange.
It didn't have the handle cover. Not sure what the lid handle was, a metal loop maybe?
My biggest complaint, is the shape limits how you can nest it. I purchased another pot that it fit in perfectly to make my own cook kit.
Loved the pair until they melted in a house fire.
I replaced it with a Chinese knock off that has a heat exchanger on the bottom, which does seem to pay for the added weight if you are out for several days.
The Chinese one has a plastic lid. Hasn't melted yet, but... :/