Why The Airbus A321XLR Will Change The Way We Fly
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2020
- Since the announcement of the A321XLR in 2019, the jet has been the topic of hot discussion. The plane marks the longest range on a single-aisle aircraft ever, opening up new routes and boosting efficiency. However, the plane could have a noticeable impact on the market once it takes to the skies in 2023. Let’s understand why.
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Being a boeing fan for most of my life. I cant deny that airbus are absolutely killing it these days and im sure they will do well into the future.
Being a fan of murderers. Go see a psychiatrist.
Well actually they're not killing anybody which is the point 😄
@@MrHav1k looool
European superiority, cutting-edge technology and sophisticated engineering.
@@IBo99608 ???
I flew the a321 from Helsinki to Goa via Dubai and it was a fantastic flight! Finnair’s european cabin was just fine for the 8 hour flight
You mist be mouse-sized then.
@@julosx eat 1 burger less every day and you will be fine
I'm so excited about the 40% larger overhead bins, and the new side walls. They surely make flying more fun for all.
Obviously, the plane manufacturers have been listening. Who wants more legroom, and wider more comfortable seats for long haul travel? Obviously, larger overhead bins and new sidewalls are what passengers WANT! Now, they just need to add sanitisers to address the current situation and concerns... Maybe they can fit that in the new sidewalls?
@@angeluscorpius I feel hugged embraced and safe without proper leg room.
@@angeluscorpius or Sir You are a worker in air travel market or you are high. Passengers want more room for legs, seats that don't feel like a plank with some fabric and general NOT a feeling that if they could, they would stuff us like meat in a Meatwagon....
Im so excited for the new windows.
Filip7370 r/woooosh
After Covid 19 this actually make more sense to almost all the airlines.
Yeah, sadly. Low demand for long haul routes.
it already made sense even before Covid 19.
Maybe not, given there is no cargo capacity. Long haul passenger routes rely on cargo to supplement it's revenue, which would be more important given a decline in passenger traffic, but a more stable cargo demand.
@@nywangphantom Not all routes are cargo heavy. For routes like BKK-CTS, XLR would be a better fit.
@@steinwaldmadchen If the lack of leisure traffic is continued, then many leisure routes may not be feasible anymore. MoM aircraft is mainly aimed at these markets with little cargo demand. If this segment is gone and the traffic shrink dramatically, then existing 787s would fit the hub-hub route better than new 321XLR. I would certainly hope for a quick rebound, but there's a possibility of a prolonged restriction on international travel.
Can't wait to see Cebu Pacific use there Airbus 321XLR❤️🇵🇭🇵🇭
Perhaps if Boeing had decided to further develop the 757, and not the 737, they would be in a better position
i agree there is no way that the 321 XLR win the new version 757
@Concavenator Cubing not sure about that... the only problem of the 757 is the wake turbulence he live behind
@@arielsegal7515 The 321XLR IS the new 757
@@metro3932 its not the new 757 but yes the 321 can replace them in most of roll of transatlantic or middle of the market. Unless Boeing lunch the 797.
@@arielsegal7515 The 797 Plans in form of a 757 replacement have already been put to a temporary halt and they are now focusing on the 737 MAX 10. And as soon as they start with the 797 Plans again, they will most likely start from scratch and develop a plane similar to the 787 and with two aisles. And as Aviation is currently not in the need of another 787-sized plane for long routes the project will probably wait for a while. Thats why the best and currently only real replacement for the 757s are the A321XLRs
I wish they'd make an A310Neo for this purpose. Wide bodies are so much more comfortable.
Actually, the a321neo is really comfortable, went on one with TAP Portugal, the only negative is that turbulence affects it more cause its smaller
I'd rather fly an A-340 or A-380 Neo any day.
@@julosx A340 and A380 are dead, A330neo already existed along with A350. That said, after the pandemic started. Narrow body will be the one likely to survives. Since it is hard to fill wide body with enough passenger to stay profitable.
Its because it our closest plane to a middle of the market plane and probably replace all the airlines old aging 757 fleet.
Yes, and from the perspective of the poor coach passenger, both the 757 and the 321 suck for a long-range international flight.
What I was thinking
S King I would still take the 757. The thought of flying in an A321 with 240 passengers sounds awful
@@calebemerson9317 A321 is much quieter and more fuel efficient so its basically common sense on which one to choose.
Not really, closest to MOM is the 767, that cannot be replaced by the A321.
You wouldn't want to spend 8 hours in a A320, well! We've got you covered.. we installed led strips and different window frames. *bruh moment*
xKumata
Well, I prefer to make it to my destination safely and whole. The 737s are yesteryear’s aircrafts lingering on artificial life support.
ctixbwi is that why airlines are still ordering them?
Pablo Herasme
Boeing 737 Max cancellations mount as customers scrap 108 more orders: www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/boeing-737-max-cancellations-mount-pushing-down-order-backlog.html
The pandemic is an additional problem for Boeing that was already struggling with the 737 Max crisis. Those planes have been grounded for the last 14 months worldwide after two fatal crashes - one in Indonesia in October 2018 and another in Ethiopia in March 2019 - killed all 346 aboard the two flights.
ctixbwi yea during this crisis where everybody shrinking their fleet? no wonder
Pablo Herasme
Note that the first 737 cancellations were made before the pandemic restrictions begun. But after the Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines crashes. More cancellations are eventually in the works. The recertification completion has repeatedly been rescheduled, which could keep on reoccurring. Boeing might become stuck with about 400 unfinished 737 Max aircrafts? I believe Boeing’s best option is to speed up the 737 replacement design with technology matching and improving the 787 technology in an aircraft suitable for the 737 / 320 markets. Only then can Boeing very likely outcompete Airbus technologically ASAP and possibly financially over time. Boeing needs to swallow that pill willingly before FAA or the competition presses it on Boeing when their financial strength has waned too much. Or are we there already?
Boeing should have updated the 757 they missed out big time
yup Boeing are still sleeping.... and the 757 are going to cargo... can somebody wake up this guys!!!
Unbelievable mismanagement
Boeing greed make them not think at all...
It is said that Boeing considered this instead of updating the 737, but Southwest was against this because it would mean higher costs for retraining pilots.
It was a different market back in the day.
I am a big fan of the A320 and A321. Especially after the 737 MAX's catastrophic failures.
Always clear and updated. Great job. Thank you. Keep on good work
Thanks. Your videos are very informative and just the right length.
Got your channel something to watch over and over.👍
Fantastic video, congratulations!
My favourite aircraft is the A321-211CEO with sharklets and A321-251NX. Proud to see another version of A321 coming soon
My own experience (yes, not very scientific!) is that even the standard A320 is more comfortable than most 737-models in the hands of budget airlines. A tiny bit more spacious and brighter, noise profile a bit less intrusive. Sometimes it feels like the cabin pressure is set to a higher level as well. My ears do approve. So, I’m looking forward to fly with new models from Toulouse.
So excited. Currently only two 5-star carriers fly to their hubs from my city and this aircraft can change that. Looking forward to see new carriers opening new travel opportunities.
In a world with COVID19, we will need partitions, similar to cabins on trains. It will actually be similar to flying in 50-60 years ago when airlines used to have such cabins.
Yayyyyy, now we can enjoy the cramp plus feeling claustrophobic for even longer period .
Super interesting.
Would connect a lot of lower frequency airports.
Thanks for the video.
Love this channel
Thanks for the feedback. - TB
Simple Flying the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300 but the A321XLR will be a good replacement for the 737 MAXs
Flew from Vancouver BC to Brisbane on a B737-800 via Honolulu, Fiji and Somoa. Was OK and the price was right. Number of aisles don't matter. If a wide body aircraft is filled to capacity, it's just as crowded.
So to put it into one sentence: The A321 makes flying cheaper and less comfortable.
Not sure if that's what everybody wants...
toom2141 who doesn’t want cheaper
if you're not picky about your plane seat and just wants to get somewhere safely without breaking the bank, then A321XLR is the way to go.
sugar sifter business class on this plane will probably be cheaper than business class on a bigger plane is the point though. The same way the equivalent economy seat would be cheaper.
I hope A321XLR Dies
Krish R why? Jealous?
If i'm flying long haul, then i want the big jet widebody experience! I flew Bombay - Bangkok on Jet Airlines on a 737 and it was so cramped and no space to walk around the cabin.
0:20 Il-62 : Am I a joke to you?
Il-62: *flies long range*
Efficiency: am I a joke to you?
Good Tnx bro
It could open up the possibility of all premium cabins for the transatlantic routes with business and premium economy seats only. This would be very beneficial during the initial recovery period from the pandemic when fewer people would fly.
have done close to 5 hours on single-aisle, it was quite nice actually since single-aisle planes have a LOT less people on them. Therefore, 2-3 hours more woudnt be bad at all.
I love Airbus. I love the a320 but damn this seems like an ad
Me too
I mean, it's gonna be a great deal for the airlines. Not so much for passengers, that's where the problem lies...
@@osasunaitor it got RGB lightings though.
A much needed aircraft in the coming years.
So it`s official - we are sardines.
Dorien Sutherland Please! Flying fish
[Insert astronaut meme]
*Always have been*
Fly business then
where can I find this tool mentioned at 1:54? no link to it in the description...
It all makes sense from the airline point of view, as a passenger in economy with most operators it will really suck haha
Yes I’m intrigued by this plane. I’m betting most airlines will push the amount of seats to the capacity though so I wonder what how comfortable it would be for long flights
I want to see an A220 LR that can comfortably cover more transatlantic routes
Congrats!!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😊✈️
Those claiming "narrowbody longhaul sucks" forget a very important thing: it's airline that config the seats, not Airbus or Boeing.
btw, Jetblue's product on A321 has been considered to be the best on transcontinental routes, despite most of its competitors fly widebodies.
No one flies widebodies transcon anymore
The biggest game changer is: Covid-19 "Coronavirus"
Wuhan Virus
Quite so - at this stage we have NO idea where aviation is going.
@@SuperScratch1 some airlines are going to bankruptcy pretty soon..... Unfortunately
until a vaccine is developed
@@Rsantana380 even so, when that happens, there gonna be some airlines already in bankruptcy whereas some others are gonna be struggling financially.....
As long as I have WiFi that is fast and works well, I have no issue sitting in an A320 seat for 7 hours or more. So... get it Starlink service and I'm in. This might make possible transatlantic roundtrips for less than $200. Super exciting times.
No thanks ... I have to draw the line on flying a long international flight on a single aisle aircraft. For the near future, at least, there are too many carriers offering nicer accommodations. I'll give them my business -- I'll take the A350 ...
Flying economy on long haul flights sucks anyway, for sure the A321XLR will have more legroom on international routes compared to the domestic ones. A 2-2 or 1-2 business class will be perfectly fine and it may cheaper than a business on a widebody plane
@@giacomogin8972 -- what you say about business class might be true, but I've never bought a business-class ticket that has been worth the additional cost. In fact, the only premium-economy seat that I've found worth the price is on Cathay Pacific ...
@@sking2173 it depends I guess, I travelled for years in economy on long haul, my wife is brazilian so I go there twice a year. Once I was able to afford business, I thought it is was definetely worth it. A lie flat seat is much better than premium. Of course 10 years ago with just more recline and just a bit of more of room, it was not worth the price I guess...
I think it depends on how the airline decides to configure it. I've done 9 hours in an A321neoLR (albeit in business class) and I would do it again.
One thing that is worth mentioning is that a 3-3 configured A321 is superior to a 3-4-3 configured 777 or 3-3-3 configured 787 as long as the airline decides to put in 18 inch wide seats
@@sking2173 No one in HK would find CX PEY appealing. Bad food, poor services and expensive, plus a laughable seat.
Am I missing something. If you’re stuck in economy what difference is there between this plane and a 2 aisle plane. Lots of economy 3-3-3 configurations out there. I flew on a 757 from Chicago to Edinburgh and it was well worth avoiding layovers.
It will be the queen of mid-range flights 👍
YEA!!! LET'S HEAR IT FOR AIRBUS!!!!!!
I would love to fly on it!
How do you that thing he. Mentioned on the airbus website can I get a link
If we’re flying in two years
Literally just flew for work last week. Stop fear mongering.
everybody will fly, airlines ARE going to bounce back.
Two years is a huge stretch, I’m more than sure we’ll be flying again. Hell, people are still flying now. Sure, it won’t be the incredibly high demand that it was recently, but I severely doubt it’ll be gone.
People are still flying every day.. Stop being a pussy
I guess AOC got her wish.
The number of the seats quoted are just the standard (bare minimum, most economical) configuration. Major airlines have the sway to change seat pitches to make more legroom per seat. But then they will charge more per ticket.
Some airlines (like Canada's Westjet) have already reduced the size of the lavatories so that they can cram more seats in.😱😱😱
As a Boeing fan, this could be a huge threat to them. If corporate doesn't change their way of thinking to the 21st century, Airbus will do them what they did to McDonnell Douglas.
I just ordered one today.
Wow you’re RICH
A350 is my favorite plane. And I was on Lufthansa’s A-350-900 from O’hare to Munich and I loved it. A321XLR is still cool.
Mine is the A340. Another class, much better looks, recognizable at first glance. The real long haul passenger airliner.
Small headroom for long haul flight. Is it comfortable enough for passengers?
How about 40% larger seating and leg room, I’m 6’ 190 lbs, in good shape, 3 people my size stacked together, even 2, with a smaller person in the middle, I’m getting up with numb legs after a 6 hr flight, can’t imagine a 13 hr flight, to “Embolism City”.
Paul Amarante that type of the seats should cost 40% more than the standard seats.
it is up to the Airliner with seat they will offer to you! The aircraft manufacturer (in this case Airbus) has to deliver what the airliner orders. So if you want bigger seats or more personal space for you, you need to go (talk) to your airliner and NOT to the manufacturer!
6'4", 215, and the only planes that don't have enough room are the CRJ's. A 15 hour flight on a 777 is fantastic...
@@thomasjsanford9991 I know that pain.. im 6ft 2 and 245 and wide... me in the middle then left and right have to sit at 45 degrees...
@@adrianbriggs7028 what pain?
I'm rarely on an airplane that isn't roomy and comfortable. I laugh every I hear whiners complain about small airline seats, because I've flown all over the world, completely comfortable in economy class. The only planes that don't are the CRJ's and ERJ's, but the flight is only 45 minutes to an hour anyway. For the 15 hr flight to Kenya, a 777-300er is like a plush limousine...
A great option for airlines that operate a bus service schedule of several flights a day at various times, but the likes of Emirates have set themselves up a hub operation that works better with larger aircraft.
The A321XLR means a future of more time options for passengers, and could help airlines recoup their Covid-19 loses!
All the new plane features mean squat to the economy passenger who will have to sit in a narrow, uncomfortable seat with 33”
Pitch. Give me the old 767 twin aisle with 2-3-2 seating anyway.
No thanks getting stuck standing by the loo's for a half hour in single aisle while food service happens. I need an alternate route.
Tournel Henry how old are you?
@Tournel Henry At my age nature does not care when carts are in the ailes.
Yeah I hear that especially on business class routes when they make you walk up the entire lengths of the plane if sat at the front because the business class section has its own crapper.. That’s why I never fly economy.
@@montystewart8467 i will never forget the time on an embrayer 190 when i spent 80% of my flight standing
And don't forget the people standing in that same aisle who ARE NOT waiting to use a lavatory.😬😬😬
The plane type Doesn’t mean squat to me in economy if you have minimal seat pitch.
The 737 didn’t need a new generation. The -700 and -800s are already great aircraft. What Boeing should have done was develop a new generation 757. They already covered the 767 with the Dreamliner, but a new 757 would have been perfect, seeing how successful the original 757 was.
A321XLR will be a true gamechanger, and much more so in these times of pestilence. COC of 2 units will be roughly the same as that of a A330-900, which is excellent to airlines and travellers alike, particularly business passengers, being able to offer two departure times rather than one. Or to up and downgrade during the summer and winter seasons, which no twin aisle plane can. From a passenger comfort perspective I believe XLR will be comparable to much bigger twin aisle craft. It does however have several drawbacks which have not been mentioned: 1) lower speed, Mach 0.8. This will add half an hour on a 9 hour mission. 2) an ETOPS rating of just 180’. No difference over landmasses, but a limitation over large bodies of water, like EZE-CPT over the South Atlantic. 3) a premium initial price, 10% over the identical LR. Coupled with this are alltime low leases for bigger competitors such as 787-8 or A330-800. And for A330-200 & 300 even more so. Leases for these older models have come down precipitously, almost to a MAX or A320 NEO level.
I want to fly this beast
The a321XLR will offer a lot of flexibility especially to charter airlines like TUI which could use the XLR on flights between the uk and the Caribbean and flights between the UK and Florida during the winter holiday season and then during the summer time TUI could use the a321 XLR on short to medium haul European routes between the UK and Greece, southern Spain , Balearic Islands ,Canary Islands and Egypt this could have the potential to reduce prices also as the a321 XLR is a smaller aircraft could mean that TUI could operate it out of smaller airports in the UK to long haul destinations like Florida and the Caribbean
pls metric system PLS !!!!!! ALL WORLD USE METRIC WHAY YOU USE IMPERIAL PLS !!!
Why can not be both of them??
@@fermainjackson2899
because the imperial system is stupid and senseless, teaching it and keeping it alive is a mistake and a misunderstanding ruclips.net/video/r7x-RGfd0Yk/видео.html and I wrote it in 0:39 minute where it says only about miles,from the imperial system uses about 500 million people and the metric system 6.5 billion, therefore the basic unit given should be the metric system
Well said, imperial it's not the most used
Hey Kobie, we used Nautical Miles, as they're a recognized standard in the aviation industry for measuring such distances. - TB
if you look to the different available diameter 3mm to 10mm you have one standard stepp more in the imperial system. with millions of fastener used in an big aircraft you save weight with it...
This aircraft could be great here in the South Pacific between Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific Islands. In my very limited experience, 737s have been used on these routes. Maybe we could see a direct service to Perth from Christchurch, Which would be great now Air NZ is axing their flights to London via LA. Qantas, make it happen.
I wonder if Boeing will recover from this situation, now that I feel that Airbus has already got this thing going...
Unlike the others, I actually would be alright flying the A321neo/LR/XLR on long haul flights if, and this is a big if, there is good IFE.
Not gonna lie, sounds pretty great.
Note the phase available on those interior features. At the end of the day, these planes will be outfitted to be just as uncomfortable as their domestic aircraft. However, there is one big inaccurate factoid in this video. The the MoM project didn't start until about five years ago. The decision to build the MAX came in the mid 2000's, long before the MoM project was first proposed. What happened was, the A320Neo was announced sometime in the early 2000's. As a result, airlines pushed Boeing for a 737Neo, but Boeing wanted to build an all new plane as a part of some program (I forget the name) that would have seen their entire fleet revamped with like certified aircraft. However, some airlines were upset because the plane wouldn't be ready until 2020 (surprise) and would cost a lot more. Airlines were afraid of similar cost and delays which the 787 experienced. So they pushed for the re-engine option eventually causing Boeing to drop the 737 replacement plan for the 737MAX.
The proof that airlines were not concerned with this is the death of the 757. The 757 was a MoM aircraft and actually has a similar range to the XLR (but it is shorter, but I would have to look up exactly how much). In the late 90's Boeing did propose a longer range version of the 757, but airlines were not interested. Eventually the 757 was shut down in the mid-2000's in favor of increasing 737 production (they were made at the same factories) and low demand.
As a result, the 757 can actually perform many of these routes and do. Before the virus United flew the 757 from IAD to Rome and Delta JFK to Florence. So its not that much of a change.
the industry had an a321xlr , it was called boeing 757. good move from airbus to make the new 757
Weird comment
I actually like the a321lr for transatlantic travel, the only con I can actually think of there is more turbulence
Good presentation. I do agree. There is a need to address this market segment. I however have concerns about the aircraft type.
I have personally sat on the back of an a320 series aircraft (a321neo in particular) for a short 349 nm 1 hour flight. I felt a rather massive hangover during and even hours after the flight. It could have been worse (like taking a 4700 nm flight on this type). This is where and when i learned that there are other ways to get hung over apart from alcohol consumption. I would rather not imagine sitting on one for eight hours or more. Mood lighting or even better seats cannot solve this problem.
Widebodies may address the middle of the market segment. Not to mention address the aforesaid problem. This is where Boeing's NMA comes in. There indeed is a good business case for building such a plane, let alone to replace the rather infamous 737 MAX and the very old 757 used by airlines and the Vice President of no less than the United States of America. A shortened widebody aircraft with an elliptical cross-section is way better than an exceedingly streched narrowbody aircraft both from a business and passenger perspective in a post-pandemic aviation world.
There is no better time for boeing to launch this aircraft than now to make it available for airlines and passengers alike post-covid.
Looks like a smart plane for the past corona time
Kolkata was once served by Lufthansa, KLM, British Airways but now even Air India don't have a direct Kolkata-London flight because although economy class seats get filled, business class seats don't fill.
If A321 XLR comes in hope Indigo will connect Kolkata with London with a full economy configuration flight. That will be great. Waiting for it. 😍
Dk abt other airlines but indigo will for sure get it since it always wanna open route from mumbai/delhi - european cities i cant wait since im joining their cadet program soon
Awaiting the twin engine 747
Just what the traveling public needs. A larger, single aisle airplane that can fly extended distances, with ever more passengers in cramped conditions.
Airbus is awesome ...from America
I think it is perfect for mid Haul, 4-8hr flights
or 4-6 hour I mean.
@sugar sifter May birthday is a leap year, so 4 years old!!!
@@yanihat2369 Are you actually a kindergartner?
@@ILoveQazaqstan nah I am actually 21 years old. I celebrate either February 28 or March 1 when there is no Feb 29 in calendar
@@yanihat2369 apologies
What is the point of larger overhead bins? It's the pax with excessive carry-on baggage that make boarding and alighting insufferable.
40% larger bins, possibly book one of those as your seat there is bound to be more space.
I would rather fly a widebody instead. The price will have to justify the comfort difference
Am I the only one here who prefers single aisle over wide bodies as a pax? As a pilot I'd prefer flying wide body tbh, but as a passenger I like single aisle because I have higher chances of getting my window seat, and even if I'm in the middle seat I'm still fine because I can see outside and only seat away from the aisle. I love flying on the 757 and always had pleasant flights on the A320s. 737s were hit and miss as a pax (though their windows are larger than the A320s).
How does it compare to the 757?
No way am I riding in a single aisle aircraft flying across the Atlantic. No freaking way.
Bah. The thought of flying NYK-LHR in a single aisle plane makes me want to puke.
I think United has been running a 737-800 with the domestic layout to the UK for years, I'm not sure if its LHR, but I'm 90% sure they have some miserable terrible over priced old trashy narrowbody, and they charge the same as they do for their larger more up to date planes.
I hope we'll be flying in 2 years
The range--5,000 nautical miles--makes it a perfect 757-200 replacement. That's why this plane is being snapped up by major airlines.
UV light for germicidal purposes might have been a good option
They already do it in the Korean underground trains.
Imo the easiest way for boeing to regain market share is build a 757x , with around 5000nm range and new engine ( de rated 787 engine can be a good option )
Now the airlines can see the benefits of using a single Isle narrow body aircraft for medium to long haul service.
I have been looking to do a long haul flight and offer a decent service.
Now the airbus A321LR and XLR meet my requirements but only just.
I have been asking both airbus and Boeing for such aircraft.
Although the B757-200 did meet my criteria.
But I would look nd take the A321 XLR..
Interresting how you don't see Wendover talk about this aircraft, given his not so subtle Boeing bias. Thanks for this very informative video
tokyo to anchorage could be done with a 737-900 ER or even the 800ER
Having CG issues like the Max AB keeps fine tuning software.
I was hoping to see a revolutionary new way of travelling by air when we need cross a large distance.So we get a video about travelling by air when we need to cross a large distance.
I might be get an American airline flight to my local, Belfast
It took off today
I ain't flying 10+ hours on this. It's awesome for short-medium range but not long haul come on.
To fly that far, seating should be greatly improved and they should also fly faster.
Is the A321XLR being ordered now?
Mr E. RambleOn yeah. AA, JetBlue, United, Aer Lingus, Iberia, Qantas and others have ordered it
So a321 is a lowcost?
Good vlog. Should do well on the Africa South America leg, and internally in South America and Africa. The 321xlri fells the death knell on the 737 Max 9, 10
Indranil Chakrabarty regretfully no. A321XLR is subject to ETOPS 180’ restrictions. It cannot fly further from an alternate airport, a rule that does not apply to A350, 787 or quadjets. The darker area is off bounds for A321XLR www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=gig-cpt%2C+eze-cpt&MS=wls&DU=nm&SG=820&SU=kph&E=180
@@luisdestefano6056 Airbus needs to do something on the ETOPS front for the 321 xlri. There is a sizeable 200 seat daily market between Africa and South America, Africa and Australia NZ and South America Asia ( NRT, ICN, SIN ) leg. But i guess most carriers will fly the 787 or 350/ 33O or the 777x. However the 737 Max is gone. Unless Boeing quickly builds an all new plane, the 321 will take the wind out of the 737. Surprisingly very few flights if at all any between SA and Africa or Asia. The 320 series is reasonably quiet and comfortable.
Indranil Chakrabarty as explained, A321XLR is not authorized to cross the South Atlantic for the reasons explained above. It is not a matter of good will, but rather of sound technical reasons. The North Atlantic is different, in that it has many islands with suitable diversion airports, such as BDA, PDL, SID, TFS, etc. the South Atlantic only has ASI since HLE has a small runway. Further, crossing the Indian Ocean is even more impossible, distances being greater. I have detailed for you some feasible two way routes for twin aisle planes. Great circles from South America to Japan, Korea and Northwestern China do not go over Africa. Rather, the Pacific. Likewise from South America to Australia and NZ we follow circumpolar routes, not over Africa. www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=gru-tlv-pvg,+gru-nbo-bom,+gru-nbo-hkg,+gru-los-del,+gru-dar-bkk,+gru-jnb-jkt,+gru-cpt-sin,+eze-jnb-bkk,+eze-cpt-sin&DU=nm&SG=820&SU=kph
@@luisdestefano6056 Thank you
@@luisdestefano6056 Yes. However i have seen few Africa to South America services. Ethiopian flies from Lome to Buenos Aires. Has been done. SAA and Malaysia usec to fly Cape Town Buenos Aires and Sao Paolo. 747 400 and 747 SPs. No South American carrier goes to West Africa. However Air France used a 330 200 on the Rio Paris run. That plane used to cross the Atlantic to Dakar, Senegal from Receife, Brazil.before heading north to Paris. The 321 xlri will at best cross short hops over the sea. For the big trips there is the 777, 350, 787, 330, 747 and 380 and 340s. Air China flies to Sao Paolo via Madrid. Not non stop from.Beijing over the Pacific and into Sao Paolo. ETOPS restrictions, is it