Yes but on the other hand pop have a meaning of a certain kind of music. There are other genres that are ”popular” in music now and have many listeners like rap for example but it is still not pop. But it is a very fluent broad genre that developed over time. The modern meaning of the word (where pop is a genre) would never call this music in the video pop though. Even if it was extremely popular now. But like 100 years ago this name (pop) was coined and then the meaning was like the term you say, just a shortening for popular music. In the 50s it developed in to a genre. But it is kind of strange to use it in the video since it would be more correct with the word popular in my ears at least than pop… since pop to me at least is a genre and not just the word popular.
She has studied music at Sibelius Academy. She performed in late composer Kaija Saariaho's opera 'Innocence' E.g. at The Royal Opera House. The opera won E.g. the Tait Award for Best New Opera Production at the Olivier Awards 2024: "Aix-en-Provence Festival premieres Kaija Saariaho's opera, 'Innocence'". Lately she has also been collecting traditional cattle calls as a study from different parts of Finland. Speaking of regions and fashion, you might find Finnish national folk costumes interesting: "Kansallispukukooste 6 passthebrushchallenge ". On the subject, here's some relating UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity: "Kaustislainen viulunsoitto - UNESCO-hakemusvideo / Kaustinen Fiddle Playing UNESCO nomination video". One of the most popular Finnish folk music groups is Värttinä. They took part in making The Lord of the Rings musical. When writing The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien himself took inspiration from Finland's national epic Kalevala, which is a collection and compilation of old runic songs. It's estimated that that particular Proto-Finnic style of singing and passing on folklore as an oral tradition was developed around 1000-500 BC: "Värttinä - Kylä vuotti uutta kuuta ". The same song accompanied with a traditional Finnish instrument Kantele: "Merja Soria - Kylӓ Vuotti Uutta Kuuta". Here's a delightful traditional Finnish music performance at the BBC Proms by a violinist Pekka Kuusisto : "Pekka Kuusisto’s hilarious Proms encore - My Darling Is Beautiful". Regarding weddings, you might have heard and maybe danced to this: "Colin Watt Letkajenkka". If I recall right, you told that you used to be into mythologies. Here are couple of songs, a video about Tolkien's relationship with Kalevala, and a story behind a significant Finnish painting to transfer you to a different time and place: "Loituma - missing him", "From Kalevala to Middle-Earth: Tolkien's love for Finland's MYTHS!", "Stories of Finnish Art - Akseli Gallen-Kallela: Lemminkäinen's Mother, 1897" and "Amorphis - The Bee". Speaking of Finnish music genres, there's E.g. humppa. The first Finnish rap in the history books is from 1983-naturally an instant hit: "HIP HOP avec Sidney! 13 (With General Njassa)". And of course the dance moves at the time were world class too-as shown here in the national championship: "Disco Freestyle, Breaking ja Electric Boogie SM 1985".
Its an actual folksong in the traditional poetic metre, we have roughly 100 000 of them recorded in the national archives. Some of the epic and mythological ones hundreds or even thousands of years old in terms of the stories they tell oldest actual recorded songs date from the 1600s
Im a Finnish teen age guy and i listen to a lot of that 70s and 80s Finnish rock n roll, especially a band named Leevi and the Leavings, I highly recommend listening to them if you havent already.
about rapping (im not fan of it) in finnish history, actually in 1600's they did "rap" battle, as rapping is about poems and back in the days they fought like nowadays "street rap battles"
"Mamselli" is interesting, quite specific title for Unmarried Woman that neither a landed peasant nor part of a Noble/Upper Class Family - which makes it pretty specific to those fortunate enough to be employed by the Estate or other larger Household or Institution. A Very Specific Kind of "Miss". Why do I know this? That term made me curious about all the old terms used in the "Hovimäki"-series (period drama about fictional finno-swede Noble Family in century between 1800-1900) ever since first saw it.
I'm more familiar with the type of Karelian that's from the Isthmus area, but the Viena Karelian yoik more or less goes like this: Let me sing of Okko from Sheltered Bay (when he was) south in the tsar's war, now that snowmelt is done. (When) with symbolic/iconic/important feathered spears drawn (he marched) on the killing paths of the great men of Snowy South, yes. The language is pretty rare and also incredibly hard to find resources for if you haven't learned it from a relative, and the yoik are especially tricky to try and translate because a lot of them is tied to the context of the subject, the original singer and the intended audience. The "symbolic" spears for example would likely have referenced to a specific regiment in the imperial Russian armies that young men from the area the yoik originated from would serve in. Further implicaiton is that he served for a winter, and has come back with the arrival of spring, and the yoik is a retelling of his deeds and how he did well by his parents and potential fiancee by returning alive.
I am a Finn who has now lived 10 years in the USA. The musical roots are not totally forgotten in Finland. Our history goes back thousands of years. I was born in our old capital Turku. It is over 1000 years old. Nobody knows for sure how old it really is. One very important thing to know of us Finns is that we are not related to the Swedes, Russians or any other European nation. Obviously our roots are in Mongolia and Northern China. We most probably headed west about 10 000 years ago. My theory is that on the way at some point the smart ones headed north and became Native Americans.They told the rest that just keep on going towards west. There is a good place there. So my ancestors finally arrived to a place where there was two miles ice covering the land and they decided that this is a good place. We will stay here. That place later got named Finland. Here in the USA we were not considered to be really white until 1924. More like Asians. We were called "Ice Monkeys" because we were working hard as lumberjacks and miners and other people hated us because the bosses of course started to demand the same from other workers. Our ancient history s written in our national epos Kalevala. J.R. Tolkien used it a lot when he wrote the Lord of the Rings. Elves in the book speak language that is based on the Finnish language, But finally to the music. There is this Finnish band called Korpiklaani (the Wilderness clan). Their music is based on our old tradition. They are pretty popular here in the USA among certain crowds. I have seen them live once in Texas and twice here in Portland. The audiences are fun to watch. Many people come dressed in clan outfits of their own nations. This first song tells about the birth of iron and how to make a sword of it. The sword is to be used to kill the enemies, but never your own people. ruclips.net/video/PJwo6bMKBaw/видео.html Here are the guys playing live and singing in "English". It is a drinking song. We are known to drink like the Irish. Although ! must confess that when I went from bar to bar playing with my Irish friends in Turku that the Irish guys can every now and then drink us Finns under the table. ruclips.net/video/ojJEtjlC3tg/видео.html
Finland have traditions trading with England originally furs and lumber or tar! Crimean war made us problems, but now again Crimean war cause problems!
Actually no. "Mamselli" is old term for Unmarried Woman that's neither a landed Peasant nor part of a Noble/Upper Class Family. "Unmarried Household/Estate Servant Class Woman" is closest translation I can come up with.
Except Finland was Sweden until pretty recently in 1809, after that almost 100 years under Russia, so a lot of shared history and culture with Sweden in that sense, of course also Finns had their unique culture parts and art, but most has be3n exploded after year 1809.
Yes. But we Finn's has always had our own culture and lanquage too. It is not same with swedes. There is lot of same things in culture but never have been exactly same. We have always been 2 different people and culture, even then when Finland were part of Sweden. But lot of same things too.
Those outfits she wore are very quite expensive when done correctly. Thousands and thousands of euros. Ieva's polkka is my karaoke go-to! :D So it really has hold the time very well.
You think a nation/country doesn't exist if it doesn't have a modern nation state? Finland as an entity has existed in various forms for more than 1000 years, and no, even during the Swedish period it was NOT mostly referred to as "Österland" but as FINLAND.
Pop music I'm guessing refers to what has been "popular" during the past 1000 years. Basically what people sang and listened to.
Yes but on the other hand pop have a meaning of a certain kind of music. There are other genres that are ”popular” in music now and have many listeners like rap for example but it is still not pop.
But it is a very fluent broad genre that developed over time. The modern meaning of the word (where pop is a genre) would never call this music in the video pop though. Even if it was extremely popular now.
But like 100 years ago this name (pop) was coined and then the meaning was like the term you say, just a shortening for popular music. In the 50s it developed in to a genre.
But it is kind of strange to use it in the video since it would be more correct with the word popular in my ears at least than pop… since pop to me at least is a genre and not just the word popular.
10 seconds and I'm out,sorry.
I would guess that 'The Finnish Tango' dominated the popular music between 1930-1970. They have their own Finnish Tango dance as well.
She has studied music at Sibelius Academy. She performed in late composer Kaija Saariaho's opera 'Innocence' E.g. at The Royal Opera House. The opera won E.g. the Tait Award for Best New Opera Production at the Olivier Awards 2024: "Aix-en-Provence Festival premieres Kaija Saariaho's opera, 'Innocence'". Lately she has also been collecting traditional cattle calls as a study from different parts of Finland. Speaking of regions and fashion, you might find Finnish national folk costumes interesting: "Kansallispukukooste 6 passthebrushchallenge ". On the subject, here's some relating UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity: "Kaustislainen viulunsoitto - UNESCO-hakemusvideo / Kaustinen Fiddle Playing UNESCO nomination video". One of the most popular Finnish folk music groups is Värttinä. They took part in making The Lord of the Rings musical. When writing The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien himself took inspiration from Finland's national epic Kalevala, which is a collection and compilation of old runic songs. It's estimated that that particular Proto-Finnic style of singing and passing on folklore as an oral tradition was developed around 1000-500 BC: "Värttinä - Kylä vuotti uutta kuuta ". The same song accompanied with a traditional Finnish instrument Kantele: "Merja Soria - Kylӓ Vuotti Uutta Kuuta". Here's a delightful traditional Finnish music performance at the BBC Proms by a violinist Pekka Kuusisto : "Pekka Kuusisto’s hilarious Proms encore - My Darling Is Beautiful". Regarding weddings, you might have heard and maybe danced to this: "Colin Watt Letkajenkka". If I recall right, you told that you used to be into mythologies. Here are couple of songs, a video about Tolkien's relationship with Kalevala, and a story behind a significant Finnish painting to transfer you to a different time and place: "Loituma - missing him", "From Kalevala to Middle-Earth: Tolkien's love for Finland's MYTHS!", "Stories of Finnish Art - Akseli Gallen-Kallela: Lemminkäinen's Mother, 1897" and "Amorphis - The Bee". Speaking of Finnish music genres, there's E.g. humppa. The first Finnish rap in the history books is from 1983-naturally an instant hit: "HIP HOP avec Sidney! 13 (With General Njassa)". And of course the dance moves at the time were world class too-as shown here in the national championship: "Disco Freestyle, Breaking ja Electric Boogie SM 1985".
Its an actual folksong in the traditional poetic metre, we have roughly 100 000 of them recorded in the national archives. Some of the epic and mythological ones hundreds or even thousands of years old in terms of the stories they tell oldest actual recorded songs date from the 1600s
Im a Finnish teen age guy and i listen to a lot of that 70s and 80s Finnish rock n roll, especially a band named Leevi and the Leavings, I highly recommend listening to them if you havent already.
about rapping (im not fan of it) in finnish history, actually in 1600's they did "rap" battle, as rapping is about poems and back in the days they fought like nowadays "street rap battles"
Popular with the folks, so folk to pop progression really.
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"Mamselli" is interesting, quite specific title for Unmarried Woman that neither a landed peasant nor part of a Noble/Upper Class Family - which makes it pretty specific to those fortunate enough to be employed by the Estate or other larger Household or Institution. A Very Specific Kind of "Miss".
Why do I know this? That term made me curious about all the old terms used in the "Hovimäki"-series (period drama about fictional finno-swede Noble Family in century between 1800-1900) ever since first saw it.
Hovimäki was so good series. I loved to watch it when it first came.
Karelia was apart of Finland and the people there are still in the Finnish family. There are alot in Russia.
My relatives fled and got a good life in Hanko, Some people stayed and that was a bad decision .
Pop means popular music
To Vilma 🎉 and ievan polkka 🎊
I'm more familiar with the type of Karelian that's from the Isthmus area, but the Viena Karelian yoik more or less goes like this:
Let me sing of Okko from Sheltered Bay (when he was) south in the tsar's war, now that snowmelt is done.
(When) with symbolic/iconic/important feathered spears drawn (he marched) on the killing paths of the great men of Snowy South, yes.
The language is pretty rare and also incredibly hard to find resources for if you haven't learned it from a relative, and the yoik are especially tricky to try and translate because a lot of them is tied to the context of the subject, the original singer and the intended audience. The "symbolic" spears for example would likely have referenced to a specific regiment in the imperial Russian armies that young men from the area the yoik originated from would serve in. Further implicaiton is that he served for a winter, and has come back with the arrival of spring, and the yoik is a retelling of his deeds and how he did well by his parents and potential fiancee by returning alive.
Scatman John would be jealous of the scat parts of Ievan polkka 😃
Pop is just literally popular pop is always evolving.. Pop from 1940 is way different than now, not even close to eachother
I am a Finn who has now lived 10 years in the USA. The musical roots are not totally forgotten in Finland. Our history goes back thousands of years. I was born in our old capital Turku. It is over 1000 years old. Nobody knows for sure how old it really is. One very important thing to know of us Finns is that we are not related to the Swedes, Russians or any other European nation. Obviously our roots are in Mongolia and Northern China. We most probably headed west about 10 000 years ago. My theory is that on the way at some point the smart ones headed north and became Native Americans.They told the rest that just keep on going towards west. There is a good place there. So my ancestors finally arrived to a place where there was two miles ice covering the land and they decided that this is a good place. We will stay here. That place later got named Finland. Here in the USA we were not considered to be really white until 1924. More like Asians. We were called "Ice Monkeys" because we were working hard as lumberjacks and miners and other people hated us because the bosses of course started to demand the same from other workers. Our ancient history s written in our national epos Kalevala. J.R. Tolkien used it a lot when he wrote the Lord of the Rings. Elves in the book speak language that is based on the Finnish language,
But finally to the music. There is this Finnish band called Korpiklaani (the Wilderness clan). Their music is based on our old tradition. They are pretty popular here in the USA among certain crowds. I have seen them live once in Texas and twice here in Portland. The audiences are fun to watch. Many people come dressed in clan outfits of their own nations.
This first song tells about the birth of iron and how to make a sword of it. The sword is to be used to kill the enemies, but never your own people. ruclips.net/video/PJwo6bMKBaw/видео.html
Here are the guys playing live and singing in "English". It is a drinking song. We are known to drink like the Irish. Although ! must confess that when I went from bar to bar playing with my Irish friends in Turku that the Irish guys can every now and then drink us Finns under the table.
ruclips.net/video/ojJEtjlC3tg/видео.html
The first song is a folk song, Finns do understand the lyrics but many words in it are old/dialects
The song at 7:30 i have heard a more modern version of. Can't remember the artist, though.
What a weird video, but kind of fun.
You have to check out Shrty and Ege Zulu at least! You will be surprised
Comments about comments of comments.. Right.. Enough.. Let me open up a book.
Anything about Topi Sorsakoski.
I and L. Not Levan its Ievan.
"Bit Reacts..." ;)
Finland have traditions trading with England originally furs and lumber or tar! Crimean war made us problems, but now again Crimean war cause problems!
Karelia is traditionally Finnish
Completely skipped iskelmä in the 1930s-1960s
One of the most loved song in the last 20years.. ruclips.net/video/EO0p_U1w89A/видео.html
And from Finland there is always Poets of the Fall.. Luv your vids..
ruclips.net/video/NfVGvY7p1sU/видео.html&start_radio=1&rv=EO0p_U1w89A
I think mamselli is something like a dandy a no good man of some kind
Mamselli is unmarried common woman, in this song it means brothel hostess.
Actually no. "Mamselli" is old term for Unmarried Woman that's neither a landed Peasant nor part of a Noble/Upper Class Family.
"Unmarried Household/Estate Servant Class Woman" is closest translation I can come up with.
What about the bois? voi v*
She missed Hard Rock\Metal
Russian stoles karelia after WW2
Except Finland was Sweden until pretty recently in 1809, after that almost 100 years under Russia, so a lot of shared history and culture with Sweden in that sense, of course also Finns had their unique culture parts and art, but most has be3n exploded after year 1809.
Yes. But we Finn's has always had our own culture and lanquage too. It is not same with swedes. There is lot of same things in culture but never have been exactly same. We have always been 2 different people and culture, even then when Finland were part of Sweden. But lot of same things too.
@@Pataassa Yes true also, same as within Finland and Sweden, different regions have different traditions and a lot common also
Those outfits she wore are very quite expensive when done correctly. Thousands and thousands of euros.
Ieva's polkka is my karaoke go-to! :D So it really has hold the time very well.
Hatsune Miku version of Ievan Polkka is better
People how dont knowabout what music most in noth lissen to, this is shit.
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But Finland has only existed for a little more than a hundred years?
I guess some people and cultures still don't exist, according to you, because they're colonized
You think a nation/country doesn't exist if it doesn't have a modern nation state? Finland as an entity has existed in various forms for more than 1000 years, and no, even during the Swedish period it was NOT mostly referred to as "Österland" but as FINLAND.