_Blood Ravens go to their reliquary to find _*_the entire section_*_ of the flagship missing, with a big cardboard sign with 'Da Deathskullz Wuz Here' scrawled in blue paint._ Not sure which is of the three is the bigger kleptomaniac: Blood Ravens, Trazyn, or the Deathskull Ork klan as a whole.
I have seen the Blood ravens strip a rubric marine down to his nonexistent undies in broad daylight. That's some Alpha Legion levels of guerrilla stealth bullshit right there...
"This treasure is Free Real estate" said every Blood Raven raiding fellow imperials ever. Edit: "and keep Cato, we don't want him" said the Blood Raven leader of the raid.
Meanwhile in the warp Khorne: "*Who in the everliving MOTHERFUCKING COCKBISCUITS STOLE MY PANTS!?!?!?*" Slaanesh:" OHHHHH your spear is damm arousing. Please stab it into me as deep and hard as you can please?" Tzeentch: "Wow this turn of events is truly something not even I could imagine of coming up with or maybe I could. Maybe I can't can imagine of anything or I could imagine of everything. But one thing I am sure of. The only thing I can believe in without a shadow of doubt is ..... THIS IS SO FREAKING FUNNY!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!" Nurgle: "Hey Khorne! I am betting that you want to know that some sons of Tzeentch's favorite red cyclops were the ones who took it." Khorne: "WHAT!" Tzeentch: "HEY WHY DID YOU DO THAT YOU OBESE SUPER-CANCER-AIDS-EBOLA-PLAUGE RIDDEN PUS BAG!" Later Sortarius is invaded by every single bloodthirster, bloodletter, Daemon Prince of Khorne and World Eater warbands. The Crimison King gets an unwelcome and bloody reunion from his brother the Red Angel
Blood Ravens: "We also have Slaneesh's dildo, Nurgle's toothbrush, and Tzeentch's diary." Inquisitor: "Dah F***!!!? Where the... how the... why in the Emperor's name would you even want these in your possession?" Blood Ravens: "And why not?"
@@TAWSTEALTHSTALKER turning your own Marines into machines that revive to fight again and trying to restore your primarch by putting a robotic head on his body sound pretty heretical to me Then again who cares about the iron hands
_”Knowledge is power, guard it well”_ *Translated* Take everything that isn’t nailed down, because they would have nailed it down if they didn’t want us to steal it. Maybe it will tell us about our past, but I’m completely fine with taking all of these relics if they don’t tell us a single thing, because that power sword is really cool. If they ask where their relics went just hide the relics and look like you have no clue what they’re talking about
@@insertedgynamehere and if it was _nailed_ well git gud because it was not nailed enough *proceeds to steal the screw drivers and hammers... why not... the unnatended toolbox... "Take that Tech Marine as well"
"Knowledge is power, guard it well." Sadly other chapters failed to guard their knowledge well and the Blood Ravens took it. Gotta say, Blood Ravens were my first introduction into 40K with buying Dawn of War and I love how they are Cannon Immigrants into the entire fabric of 40K since they were made specifically for the game. "While the enemies of the Emperor still draw breath there can be no peace." Just..wow, hearing that as a quote just instantly told me "These guys..right here..fucking..sold on the universe." Been into 40K ever since.
Actually they first showed up in a chapter approved codex/supplement before the game. If i remember right i was only a few paragraphs, but THQ/Relic built on it because they did not know to what chapter they came from. It made for a perfect backstory that they could go anywhere with.
I was introduced to 40K through DoW. I can't get into the table-top game though. I grew up playing more video games than board games. I will never be able to play D&D.
I too was introduced to WH40K from Dawn of War. I've been glad ever since then and I wouldn't be who I was today had I not become as fanatical as every other WH40k fan after that!
@@asaenvolk That's why the Salamanders are trying to find the artifacts of Vulcan. They are trading those artifacts to the Blood Ravens in exchange for Vulkan himself.
Behold the most brilliant strategy of noble magpies, I mean noble space marines of Blood Ravens: "Enemy cant shoot you if you steal all of their guns."
you think that after thousands of years people would figure out that relics and artifacts going missing after the Blood Ravens came to help arnt coincidences. I mean there has to be an inquisitor or two who figured this out, right?
>how did they get these weapons The Blood Ravens were clearly gifted these weapons by graceful Imperial organizations Lord Remliez. Any accusations of "theft" is either just chaotic propaganda or an organization losing the records of these items being gifted. There is defiantly no need to look further, especially since many inquisitors get lost among the chapters gifts, which they also contribute with their own gifts before getting lost.
@@26th_Primarch Clearly those were looted/'borrowed and never returned' by the filthy greenskins in transit to system. _quietly pushes reliquary door shut to conceal baneblade sitting in the far back of the room._
One must learn some diplomacy, "brother", lest some of YOUR chapter's more heretical history find it's way from our armory into Inquisitorial hands. Now, as thanks for our efforts on your behalf at recovering said artifacts and NOT turning them over to the Inquisition, you shall "Gift" them to us, "Brother", and your impolite statement shall be overlooked.
Robert Lockard bruva, for the sake of the emperor and the continued survival of the imperium I will ignore the implied threat of my chapters reliquary being gifted to your chapter without our knowledge. If that does occur however, please ready thine rectum for my heavy flamer which shall be promptly shoved inside it WHILE ON FIRE. With the highest respect Azathov, Batttle-Bruva of the salamanders. P.s. Has your chapter ever come across The foul xenoh trazyn the infinite? He might have some knowledge and gear to “gift” to your chapter.
I’ve always wondered how did they actually acquire a guardian spear and a Custodian set of armor. Next thing they gonna steal a Custodian to go with it
Well, that one can actually be explained, since a number of Guardian Spears were given to the Death Watch, to be the weapon and symbol of office for the Watch Masters. A Blood Raven could have been seconded to the Death Watch and worked his way to the rank of Watch Master, then later dies on campaign. The Blood Ravens subsequently avenge his death and recover his body and wargear, keeping the Guardian Spear, rather than returning it to the Death Watch
@@Psykomancer I personally believe it it was only applied to the Thousand Sons on Prospero. I stand by my thoughts that someone at GW (with an Ultramarine bias) tried to say "no fun allowed" like with how Ollinus Pius was retconned in to a space marine, then retconned into a custode. And entirely defeating the original point that even a normal weak human would stand up to the greatest terror in the galaxy and still go down fighting even if they knew they were going to lose :) All hail Saint Ollinus Pius
The Blood Ravens also have Forge Breaker, the very weapon that was forged by the Primarch of The Emperor's Children, Fulgrim. Take that with what you will. If they really are the sons of Magnus The Red then they must be able to collect Warp artifacts at a much safer way and not get tainted as much.
Space marine of another chapter visiting a Blood Raven barge: By the Emperor, you are really devout. You even have an exact replica of the Golden Throne in your shrine! Blood Raven Librarian: Yeah, its really an impressive, uh... replica.
Legend has it that mentioning the Blood Ravens amongst a penal legion will evoke a sense of great anger and shame from the legionaries, as they cannot help but feel inadequate, knowing full well that they will never be able to steal as many items as the Blood Ravens, try as they might.
To reflect their collection, Blood Ravens should get a special rule in a future Index Astartes, similar to how the Crimson Fists have just gotten some special rules of their own. Something along the lines of: "Gifts" of "Loyalty" Strategem Blood Ravens are renowned for their collection of artifacts "gifted" to them from other organizations. 1 CP - A Blood Raven character may take a relic normally restricted to another Imperial faction. 2 CP - A Blood Raven character may take a relic normally restricted to a Xenos or Chaos faction. Use this strategem before the first battle round. May only be used once per battle.
Andrew BakesCakes whenever they are sent in battle against Chaos forces and they turn out to be 1000 Sons both side act all embarrassed and look at the floor and wander away sighing
Brother-Captain, our space marine reinforcemebts are docking. Thank you, brother Tactillus. Tell me , which chapter do they hail from? Blood Ravens, Sir. Ah, Blood Angels - A legendary chapter indeed... No, Brother-Captain. I said Blood Ravens... ............................ Brother-Captain...? BOLT. DOWN. EVERYTHING. ( Look for pic in web its look 10 time cooler in picture..:P)
Loyalist Thousand Sons Chapter Master: Right! We need an idea to help us hide from other loyalists and our future brothers! Loyalist TS Captain (1st Com): Say we are descendant of the Blood Angels. Loyalist TS Captain (5th Com): Say we are descendant of the Raven Guard. Loyalist TS Captain (10th Com): Just make a new name for our Chapter. Like “Blood Ravens” Everyone else in Room: GENIUS!
memes aside,the name comes from their crimson armor and the cult of which the blood ravens descent had a raven as a simbol,this is where the name comes.Once the blood ravens where mistaken for thousand sons by the eldar[not really mistaken since they are thousand sons]
Going by the theory that the Blood Ravens are descended from the Corvidae Cult, the Golden Armor of the Custodes could have been gifted to the Corvidae by order of the Emperor before his internment on the Golden Throne as a formal apology for his mistreatment of their Gene Sire. Also, assuming that the Blood Ravens are indeed descended from Magnus, they may have inherited their Primarch's love of knowledge and as such place an extremely high value on historical artifacts. As such, maybe the reason that they refuse to return recovered artifacts to their rightful owners is out of a belief that by losing the artifacts, the original owners have proven that they cannot be trusted with them.
while I wouldnt put it past the Ravens to poking around other factions for info outright stealing from brother marines for no reason other then its a cool item seems a bit much(taking from a corpse on a battlefield and taking a item from a Chapters Base from under there nose is to different things), going with the theory of the Blood Ravens being in truth Thousand Sons Marines it could be said the Custodian Armor was recovered after the battle of Terra by Sons who weren't warped with there Primarch, and hoped that returning such a armor would show there loyalty in a time when everything was in question. However the purging of there records occurred and in all the chaos with the aftermath left in storage until its reason for being there in the first place forgotten and it becoming another item of awe in there armory. As for the other notable gear like the hammer it could be a number of reasons, my thought is that since its a hammer made by Dorn himself giving the Loyalist Sons the hammer as a means to show support from the Sons of Dorn which would be why over the long period of time the Sons of Dorn never went for the hammer, they knew Dorn gave it to them but much like the Ravens own history the reasons why were erased. I love the idea Blood Ravens are Thousand Sons and hope one day to see how that actually plays out with them and Magnus.
"How could you lose your lasgun trooper! We are the lucky few to ever fight alongside a chapter of space marines, as esteemed as the Blood Ravens no less! Look out there at how the emperor's angels keep THEIR lasguns in clean and functioning condition!"
It's simple Remliez. Other chapters/Custodes "gift" their artefacts/relics to the chapter. They just provide these other "gifts" without knowing it. And who else wants to bet the Blood Raven 'gifted' themselves a couple pairs of sororitas underwear as a prank after receiving their master-crafted power-armor?
there's a picture of something similar going around: two Imperial Guardsmen taking the bra of an Imperial Guardswoman, then the bra of a Sister of Battle, and then the bra from a female Blood Raven Space Marine. the Guardsmen get beat up afterward every time, the next beating much worse than the last.
If they do steal artifacts, perhaps they left no survivors to write the reports. Additionally, it's possible that chaos forces had stolen the artifacts and the blood ravens stole them back, and then didn't return them to the original owner.
One possibility for the custodes armor could be to have recovered it from old battlefields from the heresy era. With their focus on knowledge, it's also possible that the initial reason for the Blood Ravens was essentially to have them recover such things off battlefields and actively seeking out such places to recover things of importance and bring them back.
Wouldn't Custodes armor be worth the lives of thousands of humans to the imperium? Let alone the functional value, it bears all the names of its owner, which the custodes value to an insane degree. I find it difficult to believe they just "found" it laying in the dirt.
@@xeonespydonum4995 Not necessarily the dirt, but there were a few that died in the hands of the traitor legions during the heresy and possibly in other locations. Finding them would be an adventure in and of their own. Possibly even recovered from some chaos warbands in battles over the centuries. Hell, some of the things they have might have been in exchange for even more valuable things recovered. Basically, rather than being wanna be Carmen Sandiegos, they're more of Indiana Jones
Just a few days ago I finished Chaos Rising for the first time and... actually this seems very likely all things considered. It is the only game I can think of where their creed of "Knowledge is Power" and the gene-seed of Magnus were quite visible. Especially when the "Judgement of Carrion" Space Hulk entered the sector and despite being in the middle of a Chaos Uprising, the Blood Ravens dropped everything to retrieve as many artifacts as possible. In all the other games they are acting like the most generic Space Marine chapter ever, but Chaos Rising somehow manages to highlight their oddities. Too bad DoWIII is such a failure... it would have been nice to see have the chapter's lore fleshed out some more. Heck, the adventures of the Force Commander and Thaddeus with their crusade of penitence could have been great. They have just the right kind of outside perspective to have a story created around them that confronts them with what they are.
This video has an incredible unrivaled power. I have never gotten through more than it's first three minutes, during which I fall asleep... Every single time! The first time I tried watching this, I've slept through an entire day, because whenever I woke up, I replayed it from the beginning and just fell asleep again. I have used this video whenever I can't sleep ever since, and it thankfully still works. Thank You very much for this!
The Blood Ravens were "gifted" Primaris Space Marine Geneseeds by Lord Guilliman Himself. This is the reason why Gabriel Angelos can do madshit at DOW3
1. In the Werewolf RPG, there was a spirit gift called "Talons of the Magpie." If you had this power, and stole something, the owner would forget he owned it. Perhaps the high number of psykers in the Blood Ravens included a few with some similar ability, which explains why other factions have not gone on a roaring rampage. Hammer of Dorn?!? You bet the Fists would be knocking on their door if they knew... or remembered. 2. They are forgeries. Perhaps they were acquired through a silver-tongued Rogue Trader who could spin a tall tale. Perhaps their logistics arm were prone to creative embellishment. Perhaps the chapter master, by receiving "gifts" from other organizations, had tangible "proof" of auspicious deeds and prodigious events, which could inspire pride in the ranks.
Blood Raven: Hey! Check out our new relic! Ultramarine: Isn't that ours? See, it's got our insignia on it! Blood Raven: Ah yes, it may seem that way to the untrained eye; however if you look at it from really far away, upside down, and through a window, it looks kinda like a Raven. Ultramarine: So you're saying if I stand over here and... Wait... Where did he go? Where's my Boltgun? The Rhino's gone too...
I am not sure which is more impressive about this. That the Ultramarine was silly enough to actually go along with what the Blood Raven said, or that during the time it took the Ultramarine to do all that the the Blood Raven made off with his bolter which should have been magnetically locked to the Ultramarine's power armor, whatever "relic" he showed him, and the Rhino. A rhino for crying out loud!
Inquisition: Wait, how did You get all of those artifacts, Imperial, Xenos and Chaos alike? Blood Ravens: They fell out of a back of a Space Hulk, why? Trazyn: ...ANGELOS!
they have a felinid idol. according to captain hairgel, she was gifted to them... now she sings taunime songs everyday to calm their souls after combat.
BLOOD RAVENS: These artifacts are now under the possession of the Blood Ravens. MECHANICUS: But it is our you cannot take it from...... BLOOD RAVENS: Dibs MECHANICUS: Damn
As you explained, the Blood Ravens likely recovered and maintained these pieces of wargear. Mindset likely going along the "better in use on the Emperors behalf, then fall into heretics grasp." An irony given the track record in Blood Raven areas. Another possibilities is going off their brief appearance in the Space Marine game, where Blood Ravens aid Ultra Marines. Indicating they earn wargear acting as a Quick-reaction force among their chapter brethren. The games text of items also says it isn't restricted to Marine Chapters, for Sisters of Battle, Inquisition and even Imperial Guard regiments likely know of the Blood Ravens.
Even the Custodes armour could be found and salvaged on some forgotten battlefield, or in aging derelict attached to spacehulk (and its history could be determined from its memorybank). By my understanding, the blod ravens do have quite long history of raiding spacehulks and (if possible) obtaining special or more powerfull wargeer. What puzzles me more than "how they came to HAVE their stuff", is why are they not using xeno wargeer too - especially, when there is no imperial counterpart, or if the xeno wargeer is more powerfull than standard imperial version. The spacewolfs (as some of their members, not as an organization) do use xeno wargear. Lucases the Tricsters pistol sight, and so one, to a degree, that in book Prospero Burns, the Vlka Fenryka attacks some advanced xeno species wich used adaptible shields, by hand to hand and melee, than by attacking them with weapons obtained from their fallen comrades (therefore the enemies adapted their shields against energy and particle weapons) and than attacked them with bolters en-mase. BTW, Blood ravens are almost certainly descendant chapter (or splinter of original chapter - its scout company actually) of thousand sons.
They do use xeno technology. They simply mask them as normal Imperium tech. For example Gabriel Angelos terminator armour and hammer contain powerful Eldar relics. That's how he is capable of doing backflips in it.
Well, yes an no. The Hammer was giwen by inquisitor and by my understanding it is enbeded with a shard from of defeated avatar of kaela mensha kaine. But you do not see their scouts sniping the other side of the map enemy tanks with rail rifles.@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
I introduced Blood Ravens as allies in an RPG. First things the players did was lock their gear down. The Blood Ravens were grateful for the party's gifts later though.
"Damn we can't figure out who our primogenitor primarch is, what relics do we collect?" "Let's just get relics from ALL of them, loyalist or otherwise, something we grab will have to be right!" "Good idea!" The conversation I imagine took place before the official Blood Raven doctrine "Grab everything not bolted to the floor, then come back with a plasma cutter for the rest" was instated.
They're driven by an urge to acquire more than just knowledge. Terra still had oceans before they visited the place and look at it afterwards!! One of them was given an audience with the Emperor, before then he still had a face. There's no such thing as missing Primarchs, those guys are all just locked away in the Blood Raven's armory. The poor Squats had home worlds before these guys passed through that part of the galaxy.
The reason why the blood ravens foundling is unknown, is because they stole it right after their ascension to space marines were complete. Before stealing the report of them stealing the founding, and stealing the report of that report being stolen, cont et infinitum.
I deem it highly unlikely they are of Dorn's stock. Even amongst the chapters of Dorn that accept librarians into their ranks, there are only a few. Seeing as they have an unusual high amount of librarians I still suspect Magnus as their primarch. Sanguinius is out of the question as they do not suffer from the red thirst or black rage. And don't bring me that bullcrap that there are no successor loyalist chapters to traitor primarchs. Even half of the founding grey knights and inquisition were of traitor stock.. As for the custodes armor, they could have just found it you know. Back during the crusade these guys were everywhere. But then again, half the blood ravens turned traitor at some point, so maybe they stole it.
Where do the Grey Knights get their gene seed from? Grey Knights are all psycers, with no geneseed corruption ie the flesh change. The Grey Knights have founded other chapters such as the Exorcists. And lastly, who is Janus of the Grey Knights? I bet you can find a lot of connections there with the Blood Ravens and their close association to the Inquisition and the Grey Knights.
Trazyn the Infinite: *Wakes up* “ah time to marvel at my collect...*sees empty room* BLOOD RAVEEENNSSS!!”
by the emperor, just imagine the glee and happiness those blood ravens would feel finding Tarzyn´s colection
@@markusnavergard2387 i want that in a game.. they find his collection and proceed to "liberate" it!
@@sirpieman300 The entire game is you stealing from the opposite faction.
I WANT THIS GAME!! NOW!!!
_Blood Ravens go to their reliquary to find _*_the entire section_*_ of the flagship missing, with a big cardboard sign with 'Da Deathskullz Wuz Here' scrawled in blue paint._
Not sure which is of the three is the bigger kleptomaniac: Blood Ravens, Trazyn, or the Deathskull Ork klan as a whole.
Internet Zen Master they’re actually in a perpetual thievery competition, with the prize being the collections of all three chapters
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* Blood Ravens laugh in the distance *
FUCKING MAGPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEESS!
I have seen the Blood ravens strip a rubric marine down to his nonexistent undies in broad daylight. That's some Alpha Legion levels of guerrilla stealth bullshit right there...
What if their primarch is Alpharius?
So... you’ve see brothers steal from brothers. Sounds like a normal family affair.
but but rubric marines are the armour!!!! thats savage
Wait, that's just called killing a Rubric Marine.
It just goes to show even in 40k, the ancient rule of "dibs" still holds true
You know it xD
Like red vs blue has established "you don't argue with the international dibs protocol"
Dibs on all the likes you got.
I mean, it's 40k, it's all ancient rules.
A law agreed upon by the Old Ones and the C’Tann themselves.
"this unclaimed treasury shall be taken in to Blood Raven custody!"
"... This is an Ultramarine armoury"
"UNCLAIMED TREASURY"
"..."
"while your at it take cato with you we REALLY dont want him here"
@@thegrandnope7143 I, Cato Sicarius, take issue with this comment.
@@deadmanslastwish "no-one cares cato now be a good little runt and go paint your armor red and yer sholder pads ivory"
"This treasure is Free Real estate" said every Blood Raven raiding fellow imperials ever.
Edit: "and keep Cato, we don't want him" said the Blood Raven leader of the raid.
@@Alex-qn4hz "he may get the job done and could be classified as an artifact himself due to his effectiveness but emperor dammit he is annoying"
Blood Raven artefact: *Khorn's pants*
Inquisitor: "Whatthe f..."
Gabriel: "It was a gif... A TROPHY."
Meanwhile in the warp
Khorne: "*Who in the everliving MOTHERFUCKING COCKBISCUITS STOLE MY PANTS!?!?!?*"
Slaanesh:" OHHHHH your spear is damm arousing. Please stab it into me as deep and hard as you can please?"
Tzeentch: "Wow this turn of events is truly something not even I could imagine of coming up with or maybe I could. Maybe I can't can imagine of anything or I could imagine of everything. But one thing I am sure of. The only thing I can believe in without a shadow of doubt is ..... THIS IS SO FREAKING FUNNY!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!"
Nurgle: "Hey Khorne! I am betting that you want to know that some sons of Tzeentch's favorite red cyclops were the ones who took it."
Khorne: "WHAT!"
Tzeentch: "HEY WHY DID YOU DO THAT YOU OBESE SUPER-CANCER-AIDS-EBOLA-PLAUGE RIDDEN PUS BAG!"
Later
Sortarius is invaded by every single bloodthirster, bloodletter, Daemon Prince of Khorne and World Eater warbands.
The Crimison King gets an unwelcome and bloody reunion from his brother the Red Angel
Blood Ravens: "We also have Slaneesh's dildo, Nurgle's toothbrush, and Tzeentch's diary."
Inquisitor: "Dah F***!!!? Where the... how the... why in the Emperor's name would you even want these in your possession?"
Blood Ravens: "And why not?"
@@Connor.SG-1Ring STEAL... "get granted" EEVEERYYTHING.
thats an impressive feat since he's a handicap
@@PowerSkiff12 Who and how so?
When no-one was looking, the Blood Ravens took forty relics. They took 40 relics.
That's as many as four tens.
And that's heresy.
Forty keks
But then again just about everything is "heresy."
Yeah but they belonged to traitor chapters like the iron hands
@@Sigismund697 The iron hands are loyal
@@TAWSTEALTHSTALKER turning your own Marines into machines that revive to fight again and trying to restore your primarch by putting a robotic head on his body sound pretty heretical to me
Then again who cares about the iron hands
TRAITOR MARINE: "Champion, they're stealing our ship..."
CHAOS CHAMPION: "Bloody Magpies!"
RAVENS: *Laugh in dubiously-loyal Gothic*
I came here to do two things and two things only , to purge heratics and steal property and I already stole your property, so let's do this.
CMDR. Shepard TheRussianBadger reference
@@donatedorb4094 Of course , can't have a video about Blood Raven and not have RussianBadger reference
hipety hopty where the fuck is my property
CEASE
YOUR
*HERESY!*
Some see xenos that others can't see. Some think their stuff is still safe while it is gone already.
_”Knowledge is power, guard it well”_
*Translated*
Take everything that isn’t nailed down, because they would have nailed it down if they didn’t want us to steal it. Maybe it will tell us about our past, but I’m completely fine with taking all of these relics if they don’t tell us a single thing, because that power sword is really cool. If they ask where their relics went just hide the relics and look like you have no clue what they’re talking about
Also steal everything that is nailed down, including the nails.
@@kazaddum2448 especially the nails...
Knowledge is power, guard it well, *because we are coming for it* >:)
If it can be removed from the object it's nailed to, or if the object can be moved, it's not nailed down
@@insertedgynamehere and if it was _nailed_ well git gud because it was not nailed enough
*proceeds to steal the screw drivers and hammers... why not... the unnatended toolbox...
"Take that Tech Marine as well"
The blood magpies only recorded battlecry "MINE!"
We claim this!
[ Larfleeze has entered the chat ] 😄😨😆😖
there's also
"YOINK!"
@@dovahkiin_brasil Hippitty hoppitty, We're taking your property!!!!
The blood seagulls
13:00 Or, alternately, reports about the Blood Ravens stealing everything in sight _were_ made, but the Bloody Magpies *stole those too*
Blood Ravens librarians are so talented that they can intercept Astra-Telepathica messages.
NOH!
"Knowledge is power, guard it well."
Sadly other chapters failed to guard their knowledge well and the Blood Ravens took it.
Gotta say, Blood Ravens were my first introduction into 40K with buying Dawn of War and I love how they are Cannon Immigrants into the entire fabric of 40K since they were made specifically for the game.
"While the enemies of the Emperor still draw breath there can be no peace."
Just..wow, hearing that as a quote just instantly told me "These guys..right here..fucking..sold on the universe."
Been into 40K ever since.
Actually they first showed up in a chapter approved codex/supplement before the game. If i remember right i was only a few paragraphs, but THQ/Relic built on it because they did not know to what chapter they came from. It made for a perfect backstory that they could go anywhere with.
Mathais yeah Dawn of War as also my gateway to the 40k universe. I have being a loyal fan since then
I was introduced to 40K through DoW. I can't get into the table-top game though. I grew up playing more video games than board games. I will never be able to play D&D.
I too was introduced to WH40K from Dawn of War. I've been glad ever since then and I wouldn't be who I was today had I not become as fanatical as every other WH40k fan after that!
Same I am also introduced into Warhammer universe by Dawn of war......and blood Ravens were my fav chapter.....
*Reads title*
Heh yeah, anything that isn't nailed down is a 'recently recovered' artefact.
Nails are just an annoyance. They will take the frame or concrete attached to said items.
They'll take the nails too. You'll never know when you need them.
If you can pry it up, it ain't nailed. :)
That is why they have the holly relic known as the Claw Hammer of Vulcan
@@asaenvolk That's why the Salamanders are trying to find the artifacts of Vulcan. They are trading those artifacts to the Blood Ravens in exchange for Vulkan himself.
"Look at all these gifts everywhere, I shall have to accept them on behalf of the chapter. You are all really too kind."
Blood Ravens: Oh boy oh boy, here I go stealing again.
Thousands Sorcerer: Who the heck wakes up to nick our stuff at 3 am?
Blood Ravens VetSgt: OH BOY 3 AM!
@@HaloFTW55 when you ask a Blood Raven where he got that questionable relic.
"Fine then, keep your relics"
Behold the most brilliant strategy of noble magpies, I mean noble space marines of Blood Ravens:
"Enemy cant shoot you if you steal all of their guns."
guilliman:"WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN"
you think that after thousands of years people would figure out that relics and artifacts going missing after the Blood Ravens came to help arnt coincidences. I mean there has to be an inquisitor or two who figured this out, right?
Perhaps, but even the mighty Inquisition's resources are finite. They might consider this a low-priority issue.
"Mostly loyal... some stealing."
There WAS an Inquisitor who put it all together... The Blood Raven's then "gifted" him
Pretty sure those Inquisitors also 'went missinh' 😅
There is one bolt pistol taken by them from the corpse of dead iquisitor and nobody knows how he died.
>how did they get these weapons
The Blood Ravens were clearly gifted these weapons by graceful Imperial organizations Lord Remliez. Any accusations of "theft" is either just chaotic propaganda or an organization losing the records of these items being gifted. There is defiantly no need to look further, especially since many inquisitors get lost among the chapters gifts, which they also contribute with their own gifts before getting lost.
And where are my 100 Baneblades?
@@26th_Primarch Used to be at Cadia
and then Tarzyn was given the blood ravens arefacts as a gift to?
@@26th_Primarch Clearly those were looted/'borrowed and never returned' by the filthy greenskins in transit to system. _quietly pushes reliquary door shut to conceal baneblade sitting in the far back of the room._
I don't remember gifting any of my weaponry before leaving
Blood Raven: Hippity Hoppity where’s my property
*Everything is my property
*hippity hoppity this is now my property
Blood Ravens, eh?
_aside_ Go lock the reliquary.
that won't do, they will just steal the doors along with the contents of the reliquary.
They would just steal the reliquary
_Entire area where the reliquary was located vanishes by the time the Blood Ravens are gone._ I'm not even mad, I'm just confused.
Sorry but if the Blood Ravens have revealed themselves to you it means that they have already looted everything they wanted
Bluud Rahvens!lock the... wait where did the reliquary go.
“How did the blood ravens acquire these artifacts?”
THEY BE THIEVING MAGPIES!!!
INDEED !
More like gifted it was a gift brother
Through Jihad.
One must learn some diplomacy, "brother", lest some of YOUR chapter's more heretical history find it's way from our armory into Inquisitorial hands. Now, as thanks for our efforts on your behalf at recovering said artifacts and NOT turning them over to the Inquisition, you shall "Gift" them to us, "Brother", and your impolite statement shall be overlooked.
Robert Lockard bruva, for the sake of the emperor and the continued survival of the imperium I will ignore the implied threat of my chapters reliquary being gifted to your chapter without our knowledge. If that does occur however, please ready thine rectum for my heavy flamer which shall be promptly shoved inside it WHILE ON FIRE.
With the highest respect
Azathov, Batttle-Bruva of the salamanders.
P.s. Has your chapter ever come across The foul xenoh trazyn the infinite? He might have some knowledge and gear to “gift” to your chapter.
I’ve always wondered how did they actually acquire a guardian spear and a Custodian set of armor. Next thing they gonna steal a Custodian to go with it
Be careful that it isn't you Kitten.
Or the Magpies can steal the Custodes in Trazyn's collection.
Yeah the Custodes are to slippery to steal right now...
@@26th_Primarch My abs are quivering in anticipation
Well, that one can actually be explained, since a number of Guardian Spears were given to the Death Watch, to be the weapon and symbol of office for the Watch Masters. A Blood Raven could have been seconded to the Death Watch and worked his way to the rank of Watch Master, then later dies on campaign. The Blood Ravens subsequently avenge his death and recover his body and wargear, keeping the Guardian Spear, rather than returning it to the Death Watch
Blood Ravens!
*hides all powergear*
Lock the Reliquary
@@exiagan9721 THEY STOLE THE RELIQUARY!
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 More like gift they gave us that Reliquary as a gift
Thank you for the lock and bolts by the way.
@@bloodravensforcecommander3708 Ok I believe you but I have to ask did they also gift the entire kitchen as well?
Unknown origin?
Love for artifact and their study?
This smells of thousand sons
It was hinted in the Black Library books but some git at GW has started trying say no :(
Much Like Ollinus Pius tbh.
Gits tying to retcon cool stuff
@@vattmann1387 They better Git Gud cause gamers these days won't take shit no more!
The Thousand Sons hypothesis has been disproved, as it appears that the Rubric of Ahriman is applied to all members of the chapter constantly.
@@Psykomancer I personally believe it it was only applied to the Thousand Sons on Prospero. I stand by my thoughts that someone at GW (with an Ultramarine bias) tried to say "no fun allowed" like with how Ollinus Pius was retconned in to a space marine, then retconned into a custode. And entirely defeating the original point that even a normal weak human would stand up to the greatest terror in the galaxy and still go down fighting even if they knew they were going to lose :)
All hail Saint Ollinus Pius
I think they're sons of Magnus.
The Blood Ravens also have Forge Breaker, the very weapon that was forged by the Primarch of The Emperor's Children, Fulgrim. Take that with what you will. If they really are the sons of Magnus The Red then they must be able to collect Warp artifacts at a much safer way and not get tainted as much.
Other way around. Stronger psychic presence, bigger lighthouse for daemons.
@conan263 Yes, but that Hersey was purged. Now they can get back to "discovering" stuff.
@@lord2529 The fact they are all psykers means they are all trained to avoid being tainted.
chapter has had like 3 civil wars due warp stuff in resent memory
@@brandonaughtman9091 Or at the very least protecting the Imperial Worlds
Space marine of another chapter visiting a Blood Raven barge: By the Emperor, you are really devout. You even have an exact replica of the Golden Throne in your shrine!
Blood Raven Librarian: Yeah, its really an impressive, uh... replica.
You call it a quest for knowledge. Everyone else calls it a bad case of kleptomania.
Quest for knowledge.... Heist.. it's all the same, right.
It's a quest for knowledge. I turn entire planets to chaos for knowledge
Legend has it that mentioning the Blood Ravens amongst a penal legion will evoke a sense of great anger and shame from the legionaries, as they cannot help but feel inadequate, knowing full well that they will never be able to steal as many items as the Blood Ravens, try as they might.
blood ravens relationship with the penal legion is that of the ultramarine and adeptus administratum.
To reflect their collection, Blood Ravens should get a special rule in a future Index Astartes, similar to how the Crimson Fists have just gotten some special rules of their own. Something along the lines of:
"Gifts" of "Loyalty" Strategem
Blood Ravens are renowned for their collection of artifacts "gifted" to them from other organizations.
1 CP - A Blood Raven character may take a relic normally restricted to another Imperial faction.
2 CP - A Blood Raven character may take a relic normally restricted to a Xenos or Chaos faction.
Use this strategem before the first battle round. May only be used once per battle.
a primaris ancient with custodes relic standard between hellblaster squads seem op.
Andrew BakesCakes whenever they are sent in battle against Chaos forces and they turn out to be 1000 Sons both side act all embarrassed and look at the floor and wander away sighing
I’m imagining an Agressor struggling to wield Drach’neyen, while Abbadon struggles to fight without a sword.
Brother-Captain, our space marine reinforcemebts are docking.
Thank you, brother Tactillus. Tell me , which chapter do they hail from?
Blood Ravens, Sir.
Ah, Blood Angels - A legendary chapter indeed...
No, Brother-Captain. I said Blood Ravens...
............................
Brother-Captain...?
BOLT.
DOWN.
EVERYTHING.
( Look for pic in web its look 10 time cooler in picture..:P)
link spes marene
Don’t bother, the bolts will also be “graciously gifted” to the chapter.
Dude they even stole their name from the Raven Guard and Blood Angels and just duct taped them together.
Duck tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side. Together it binds the universe
Loyalist Thousand Sons Chapter Master: Right! We need an idea to help us hide from other loyalists and our future brothers!
Loyalist TS Captain (1st Com): Say we are descendant of the Blood Angels.
Loyalist TS Captain (5th Com): Say we are descendant of the Raven Guard.
Loyalist TS Captain (10th Com): Just make a new name for our Chapter. Like “Blood Ravens”
Everyone else in Room: GENIUS!
memes aside,the name comes from their crimson armor and the cult of which the blood ravens descent had a raven as a simbol,this is where the name comes.Once the blood ravens where mistaken for thousand sons by the eldar[not really mistaken since they are thousand sons]
@@mojewjewjew4420 Plot twist: they're not really sons of Maggie the red. They just sto...acquired Thousand Sons geneseed.
@@Rawkit_Surgeon Plot twist: it was gifted to them
Going by the theory that the Blood Ravens are descended from the Corvidae Cult, the Golden Armor of the Custodes could have been gifted to the Corvidae by order of the Emperor before his internment on the Golden Throne as a formal apology for his mistreatment of their Gene Sire. Also, assuming that the Blood Ravens are indeed descended from Magnus, they may have inherited their Primarch's love of knowledge and as such place an extremely high value on historical artifacts. As such, maybe the reason that they refuse to return recovered artifacts to their rightful owners is out of a belief that by losing the artifacts, the original owners have proven that they cannot be trusted with them.
bravo bravo
Or they *acquired* them.
"The codex astartes calls this maneuver steal rain."
Blood Raven: "This will make a fine addition to my collection"
while I wouldnt put it past the Ravens to poking around other factions for info outright stealing from brother marines for no reason other then its a cool item seems a bit much(taking from a corpse on a battlefield and taking a item from a Chapters Base from under there nose is to different things), going with the theory of the Blood Ravens being in truth Thousand Sons Marines it could be said the Custodian Armor was recovered after the battle of Terra by Sons who weren't warped with there Primarch, and hoped that returning such a armor would show there loyalty in a time when everything was in question. However the purging of there records occurred and in all the chaos with the aftermath left in storage until its reason for being there in the first place forgotten and it becoming another item of awe in there armory.
As for the other notable gear like the hammer it could be a number of reasons, my thought is that since its a hammer made by Dorn himself giving the Loyalist Sons the hammer as a means to show support from the Sons of Dorn which would be why over the long period of time the Sons of Dorn never went for the hammer, they knew Dorn gave it to them but much like the Ravens own history the reasons why were erased.
I love the idea Blood Ravens are Thousand Sons and hope one day to see how that actually plays out with them and Magnus.
“My Lord the Blood Ravens are here”
“Bolt everything down immediately”
“I can’t sir, they already stole the bolts”
You did it! You took my suggestion! What a most wonderful way to end 2018! Thank you, you awesome guy you!
Bloody Magpies
I would hug them but them i'd have to check my pouches and gear
*THIS COMMENT WAS STOLEN BY THE BLOOD RAVENS*
*artifacts of the blood ravens*
Wait lemme grab popcorn. This is a late Emperor's Day gift I don't wanna miss.
Very interesting Black Templar angle to explain a couple of those relics.
"How could you lose your lasgun trooper! We are the lucky few to ever fight alongside a chapter of space marines, as esteemed as the Blood Ravens no less! Look out there at how the emperor's angels keep THEIR lasguns in clean and functioning condition!"
what you talking about all the artifacts belong to the Blood Ravens they just haven't been retrieved from those who've they've been lent to
It's simple Remliez. Other chapters/Custodes "gift" their artefacts/relics to the chapter. They just provide these other "gifts" without knowing it.
And who else wants to bet the Blood Raven 'gifted' themselves a couple pairs of sororitas underwear as a prank after receiving their master-crafted power-armor?
like a neopyte trial before full Magpie ?
there's a picture of something similar going around: two Imperial Guardsmen taking the bra of an Imperial Guardswoman, then the bra of a Sister of Battle, and then the bra from a female Blood Raven Space Marine. the Guardsmen get beat up afterward every time, the next beating much worse than the last.
10:40 The way you said "theft" was so accusatory. I love.
Bloodraven seeing a relic: "It's free relicstate".
they are Magpies after all and of course "Knowledge is Power".
*cue Lannister smirk* "Power is power."
"Steal everything you can."
"Knowledge is Power" as in they know where you're relics are hidden
@@ForgottenHonor0 only cersei said that and shes actually an idiot who rules through fear and hhas no real power
Knowledge is power I all ways look for knowledge
If they do steal artifacts, perhaps they left no survivors to write the reports. Additionally, it's possible that chaos forces had stolen the artifacts and the blood ravens stole them back, and then didn't return them to the original owner.
One possibility for the custodes armor could be to have recovered it from old battlefields from the heresy era.
With their focus on knowledge, it's also possible that the initial reason for the Blood Ravens was essentially to have them recover such things off battlefields and actively seeking out such places to recover things of importance and bring them back.
Wouldn't Custodes armor be worth the lives of thousands of humans to the imperium? Let alone the functional value, it bears all the names of its owner, which the custodes value to an insane degree. I find it difficult to believe they just "found" it laying in the dirt.
My idea is if they are thousand sons successors then maybe they found the armor in the ruins of prospero.
@@xeonespydonum4995 Not necessarily the dirt, but there were a few that died in the hands of the traitor legions during the heresy and possibly in other locations. Finding them would be an adventure in and of their own. Possibly even recovered from some chaos warbands in battles over the centuries.
Hell, some of the things they have might have been in exchange for even more valuable things recovered.
Basically, rather than being wanna be Carmen Sandiegos, they're more of Indiana Jones
Just a few days ago I finished Chaos Rising for the first time and... actually this seems very likely all things considered. It is the only game I can think of where their creed of "Knowledge is Power" and the gene-seed of Magnus were quite visible. Especially when the "Judgement of Carrion" Space Hulk entered the sector and despite being in the middle of a Chaos Uprising, the Blood Ravens dropped everything to retrieve as many artifacts as possible. In all the other games they are acting like the most generic Space Marine chapter ever, but Chaos Rising somehow manages to highlight their oddities.
Too bad DoWIII is such a failure... it would have been nice to see have the chapter's lore fleshed out some more. Heck, the adventures of the Force Commander and Thaddeus with their crusade of penitence could have been great. They have just the right kind of outside perspective to have a story created around them that confronts them with what they are.
@@dschehutinefer5627 i agree
They stole all that SHIT and nobody could provide proof of it because they stole that too. Yes, all of it. *ALL OF IT.*
@TomiSlav How would anyone know it was your cookie or even if it was created in the first place?
6:23 Gifts aren't given back.
I came here to do two things, and two things only: purge heretics and steal property.
And I've already stolen your property.
Inqusitor:So how did you get armour of a custodian.
Blood Raven:ehhhh...uhhhh....mmmmmm happens man. happens
Ahh look at the time, gotta go! Praise the Emperor!
in the end it was just an excuse so they could have/use wargear from other chapters in the DoW 1/2
Blood Ravens?? BOLT. DOWN. EVERYTHING.
Cool, free bolts!
"Free bolts?! Brother, they just gifted us their battle barge, and you want to take only bolts?!"
Well, I had to take the bolts so you could get the battle barge. They'd bolted it down, too.
This video has an incredible unrivaled power. I have never gotten through more than it's first three minutes, during which I fall asleep... Every single time! The first time I tried watching this, I've slept through an entire day, because whenever I woke up, I replayed it from the beginning and just fell asleep again. I have used this video whenever I can't sleep ever since, and it thankfully still works.
Thank You very much for this!
Blood Marines > Crip Marines
And By Crip, you mean the Ultrasmurfs or us Thousand Sons?
@@nandair_ Ultrasmurfs of course
I understood that reference.
BlueBerries
" Every time I'm in the Fleet I hear YAWK YAWK YAWK YAWK! "
Correction of the title: The (TOTALLY NOT STOLEN) artifacts of the Blood Ravens.
Happy new year 40k Theories, also great video 40k Theories
“Artefacts of the Blood Ravens? Y-yes, these are definitely _our_ artefacts. Indeed...” *tugs Power-collar*
"Gear adrift is a gift" - Every US Marine ever. I assume some Space Marines follow that ancient law.
As yes, the Blood Raven’s Battlefield Recovered Artifacts, Gifts and maybe genetically heralded weapons. And *that* armour.
hippity hoppity abolish private property
their armour is painted red is it?
The Blood Ravens were "gifted" Primaris Space Marine Geneseeds by Lord Guilliman Himself. This is the reason why Gabriel Angelos can do madshit at DOW3
Blood Ravens sounds so much cooler than Emperor's pickpockets, Ultraburglars, Celestial Acquisitors
Blood Ravens real war cry : " Hippity Hoppity where the fuck is my property?"
Could the blood ravens not have a primarch because they stole it?
That's where Rogal Dorn is. Just brooding in a dark damp library.
ah the sons of Magnus the red. i want to see Blood Ravens VS Tarzyn the infinite as they race to get their hands on some artefact
Why race? Just let him get it while you nick his stuff, then take it when he brings it back.
Two blood ravens walk into a bar. They walk out with the bar.
Another good video! Thanks!
1. In the Werewolf RPG, there was a spirit gift called "Talons of the Magpie." If you had this power, and stole something, the owner would forget he owned it. Perhaps the high number of psykers in the Blood Ravens included a few with some similar ability, which explains why other factions have not gone on a roaring rampage. Hammer of Dorn?!? You bet the Fists would be knocking on their door if they knew... or remembered.
2. They are forgeries. Perhaps they were acquired through a silver-tongued Rogue Trader who could spin a tall tale. Perhaps their logistics arm were prone to creative embellishment. Perhaps the chapter master, by receiving "gifts" from other organizations, had tangible "proof" of auspicious deeds and prodigious events, which could inspire pride in the ranks.
Named Object: *exists*
Blood Ravens: "it's free real estate"
Blood Raven: Hey! Check out our new relic!
Ultramarine: Isn't that ours? See, it's got our insignia on it!
Blood Raven: Ah yes, it may seem that way to the untrained eye; however if you look at it from really far away, upside down, and through a window, it looks kinda like a Raven.
Ultramarine: So you're saying if I stand over here and... Wait... Where did he go? Where's my Boltgun? The Rhino's gone too...
I am not sure which is more impressive about this. That the Ultramarine was silly enough to actually go along with what the Blood Raven said, or that during the time it took the Ultramarine to do all that the the Blood Raven made off with his bolter which should have been magnetically locked to the Ultramarine's power armor, whatever "relic" he showed him, and the Rhino. A rhino for crying out loud!
Inquisition: Wait, how did You get all of those artifacts, Imperial, Xenos and Chaos alike?
Blood Ravens: They fell out of a back of a Space Hulk, why?
Trazyn: ...ANGELOS!
Ork freebooters avoid the blood ravens in fear of losing their scrap
Blood Ravens:
Hippedy Hoppedy this "unclaimed" relic is now my property.
they have a felinid idol.
according to captain hairgel, she was gifted to them...
now she sings taunime songs everyday to calm their souls after combat.
*BROTHER I AM FORTIFYING THIS RELIQUARY*
BLOOD RAVENS: These artifacts are now under the possession of the Blood Ravens.
MECHANICUS: But it is our you cannot take it from......
BLOOD RAVENS: Dibs
MECHANICUS: Damn
Hippity hoppity, time to gift some property.
Blood Raven chant.
Roboute returns to Terra to try and repair the Golden Throne and Astronomicon...
WHO STOLE THE EMPRAH!?!?
Another awesome video, I love the Blood Ravens!
Yes the blood ravens had very many "donations" ofer the years that they existed
As you explained, the Blood Ravens likely recovered and maintained these pieces of wargear. Mindset likely going along the "better in use on the Emperors behalf, then fall into heretics grasp." An irony given the track record in Blood Raven areas. Another possibilities is going off their brief appearance in the Space Marine game, where Blood Ravens aid Ultra Marines. Indicating they earn wargear acting as a Quick-reaction force among their chapter brethren. The games text of items also says it isn't restricted to Marine Chapters, for Sisters of Battle, Inquisition and even Imperial Guard regiments likely know of the Blood Ravens.
So basically they're an entire Chapter full of kleptomaniac Magpies.
"Blood Ravens? Lock the reliquary."
"Already done, sir."
Even the Custodes armour could be found and salvaged on some forgotten battlefield, or in aging derelict attached to spacehulk (and its history could be determined from its memorybank). By my understanding, the blod ravens do have quite long history of raiding spacehulks and (if possible) obtaining special or more powerfull wargeer. What puzzles me more than "how they came to HAVE their stuff", is why are they not using xeno wargeer too - especially, when there is no imperial counterpart, or if the xeno wargeer is more powerfull than standard imperial version. The spacewolfs (as some of their members, not as an organization) do use xeno wargear. Lucases the Tricsters pistol sight, and so one, to a degree, that in book Prospero Burns, the Vlka Fenryka attacks some advanced xeno species wich used adaptible shields, by hand to hand and melee, than by attacking them with weapons obtained from their fallen comrades (therefore the enemies adapted their shields against energy and particle weapons) and than attacked them with bolters en-mase.
BTW, Blood ravens are almost certainly descendant chapter (or splinter of original chapter - its scout company actually) of thousand sons.
They do use xeno technology. They simply mask them as normal Imperium tech. For example Gabriel Angelos terminator armour and hammer contain powerful Eldar relics. That's how he is capable of doing backflips in it.
Well, yes an no. The Hammer was giwen by inquisitor and by my understanding it is enbeded with a shard from of defeated avatar of kaela mensha kaine. But you do not see their scouts sniping the other side of the map enemy tanks with rail rifles.@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
"Knowledge is power. Guard it well." Makes sense that they would keep almost anything
The Codex Astartes Names this Maneuver *Steal* Rain...
I introduced Blood Ravens as allies in an RPG.
First things the players did was lock their gear down.
The Blood Ravens were grateful for the party's gifts later though.
do u think GW will bring back all the Living and missing(russ, Vulcann, Corax) Primarchs?
I hope so. I’m a huge Russ fan.
@@gdog8802 I hope Russ goes back, only to be slain by Magnus with a single thought, why? because FUCK THE SPACE FURRIES!
Vulkan's dead.
Russ and Corax could maybe come back. As could Jagattai Khan
@@MrBardTard Is Vulkan really dead though?
@@lord2529 pretty much lost his perpetual powers
"Damn we can't figure out who our primogenitor primarch is, what relics do we collect?"
"Let's just get relics from ALL of them, loyalist or otherwise, something we grab will have to be right!"
"Good idea!"
The conversation I imagine took place before the official Blood Raven doctrine "Grab everything not bolted to the floor, then come back with a plasma cutter for the rest" was instated.
They're driven by an urge to acquire more than just knowledge. Terra still had oceans before they visited the place and look at it afterwards!! One of them was given an audience with the Emperor, before then he still had a face. There's no such thing as missing Primarchs, those guys are all just locked away in the Blood Raven's armory. The poor Squats had home worlds before these guys passed through that part of the galaxy.
The reason why the blood ravens foundling is unknown, is because they stole it right after their ascension to space marines were complete. Before stealing the report of them stealing the founding, and stealing the report of that report being stolen, cont et infinitum.
Blood ravens huh.... lock the reliquary.
They stole the Reliquary sir.
I think the greatest theft that the Blood Ravens ever pulled off was to nip the entire Imperium's supply of L'Oreal. Such Fabulous HAIR-ESY!
I deem it highly unlikely they are of Dorn's stock. Even amongst the chapters of Dorn that accept librarians into their ranks, there are only a few. Seeing as they have an unusual high amount of librarians I still suspect Magnus as their primarch. Sanguinius is out of the question as they do not suffer from the red thirst or black rage. And don't bring me that bullcrap that there are no successor loyalist chapters to traitor primarchs. Even half of the founding grey knights and inquisition were of traitor stock..
As for the custodes armor, they could have just found it you know. Back during the crusade these guys were everywhere.
But then again, half the blood ravens turned traitor at some point, so maybe they stole it.
Bjorn the Fell-handed: WHY THE FUCK AM I RED!!!
Where do the Grey Knights get their gene seed from?
Grey Knights are all psycers, with no geneseed corruption ie the flesh change. The Grey Knights have founded other chapters such as the Exorcists. And lastly, who is Janus of the Grey Knights? I bet you can find a lot of connections there with the Blood Ravens and their close association to the Inquisition and the Grey Knights.
Gray Knights have Emperor geneseed. I doubt the Ravens are decendants of the emperor considering they fell into a civil war due to corruption
The custodian armour could’ve been a trophy taken by heretics, reclaimed by the blood ravens?
*Reads Title*
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