i would totally agree, the LG C4 screens are 10 percent darker than G4 screen. Another downsize about oled tv the 77 inch can cost more than double compared to the 65 inch.
Bro. I unboxed a 75 inch U8NQ by myself, that thing was HEAVY! still amazed by the fact i didnt have my back broken or something. the hardest part was lifting that thing up. First make sure the TV is as close as possible were you need to place it then used Both hands underneath and the screen against my chest, no walking. 😅
I have the LgC4 and it is very good, but if I had known beforehand the care that must be taken so that it does not burn or have image retention, I would have bought another technology. Having to zoom in on black bands, not constantly putting subtitles, static images, logos, not many continuous hours on. The image is really beautiful and everything works excellent, but I don't like to worry about what I see or not. And the image is still being burned and retained, the options that come with it do not protect it if the person does not have the necessary care.
@@tigresa821 I had the LG C8 for 6 years and only this year I have seen some very faint image retention.( Note that I used this C8 on maximum brightness all the time. ) Slight burn in where subtitles are , but that's because I used blue and green color text. If You use only white,gray or black color on subtitles,then this will never burn in. I have the 77" C4 now and it's absolutely stunning. Learned my lesson now. Neutral colour subtitles and should be ok.
Don't be, got the 55inch LG OLED B6 from 8 years ago and it started recently showing burn in but that's my own fault for playing Gran Turismo 7 @maximum brightness 🔆 Still 100% not noticeable in normal viewing conditions. Great TV. Just don't watch static images all the time with high brightness
@@N-e.o Haha ya play at 200 nits problem fix ^^ meanwhile top miniled tvs already pass the 3000 nits mark and have spectacular highlights in HDR or Dolby vision . No ABL or any worries u will get any burn in with every content u want even at maximum brightness . Cheaper and v close now with the oled black levels.
@@sorinpopa1442 Leds do burn down too.. all sorts of defects due to hot components, more brightness = more heat 🔥 You seem like Leds are heavenly protected or something? they maybe do not suffer pixel burn-in but suffer allot of other problems! Like whole screen suddenly not turning on .. {those kind of problems} 😑
All LG C series have a way too dim game mode. I dont under why people hype it so much as a monitor and gaming Tv.its only good for watching movies for anything else its just too dim.
@@Tomiply I had C3, Philips OLED818, QN90C, QN90D and C3 was dimmer then 818. Its unplayable once you get used to a brighter tv. C1, C2, C3 and C4 are all dim in game model! They have a very aggressive ABL and APL. Its a bit better out of game mode but then input lag is 30-40ms. Go check some video comparisons of lg vs samsung qd oled and you will see how dim it looks in comparison and its even worse compared to Mini led TVs. Even my old Sony X95J pissed all over C3 game mode and its just a FALD TV.
@@EldenLord. I don’t need a new main TV for my living room. I was looking for a gaming and monitor screen in 42-43” and g series dont go bellow 55”. I decided for QN90D because its really good for gaming and pc usage. It Has almost exact pq like philips oled818 just brighter. I had qn90d next to 818 and managed to calibrate it so that it looks very close to the philips oled and I’m now very happy with the picture. I wasnt able to do the same with qn90c too many things are off like usualy with Samsung. I was positively surprised how accurate are the colors, wb and all that stuff on qn90d for a Samsung TV because Im not a fan of their colors, usually they are totally off and with some adjustment the picture is now almost oled like just brighter. Sure there are still scenes where oled wins but I mostly play just racing games and they looked most of the time better then on c3 and 818 and for windows there is no contest both 818 and especially c3 are useless compared to a mini led as soon as there is some sun light in the room.
@@EldenLord.terrible advice. Get a s90d or 95d. Qd-oled will always be better than W-Oled and Samsung has better motion. Lg g4 sucks and isn't as good as s90d
In Greece the tcl 65" c855 costs 1699 euros whereas QD oled Samsung 65" S90d for 1599 euros and Woled LG C4 65" cost 1699 euros. Which one would you choose? Thanks
Prob with TCL and hisense is they dumb down and give us inferior models than the same models in north america... And they charge us more for privalige. I got last years samsung s90c for same price as the TCL and being a QD OLED it kills both of the tvs your compairing. Comes with 4 hdmi 2.1s and the color upgrade with QD oled is night and day.
I just returned a 77" S90D. That thing was a cheap piece of junk. The panel was great looking outside of the awful video processor samsungs are known for having. I got static in dark areas. Not black areas, but darker areas. It looked like s**t.
But you haven't calibrated colour to be in pair. Please fix that. At least set Film profile and turn on blue filter on C855. Also play around HDR, dynamic brighness and so on to achieve same effect as on OLED. To be honest profile against OLED phone or Macbook Mx (these has perfect color profile calibration). Just run some HDR 4K RUclips video where you have animals (zebra, chameleon, elephant, giraffe, pinging).
In my case my TCL C805k almost matched the Samsung S90C when I tweaked the picture settings especially the white balance. TCL QD MiniLED can suppress blooming to a minimal level and to the extent that it is unnoticeable, by which Samsung QLED TVs do struggle to achieve. The TCL also has a Local Dimming to have a deep black like the OLED.
I had the tcl it was good but just took it back and got the Sony Bravia 7 its $200 more and it’s a better mini LED TV. I haven’t had no dirty screen effect or blooming nothing. The Sony has the way better processor its just better.
I have had the TCL C755 for almost a year now and I can say that the motion picture is bad and I have never seen such a bad TV in my life. The panel itself is otherwise clean without DSE. Of course, I would also prefer a Sony TV when they are so much too expensive. For the 65" size, the Sony Bravia 7 costs $2,275 and then the 75" size costs $2,600. The Hisense 65U8NQ is much more affordable because it costs 1,340 dollars and that is almost 1,000 dollars cheaper than the Sony Bravia 7 and then, for example, the Hisense 75U8NQ costs 1,645 dollars, which is again a huge difference compared to the Sony Bravia 7. Sony is simply much, much too expensive.
Hisense U8N is an even better choice than this TCL C855 and the price is very tempting. Regarding the OLED C4, I would prefer the Samsung S90D or the S95C, as I can get them for the same price
After binge watching a load of content from various channels I finally jumped on the C855. Just need to add that a unique positive that I found with your reviews/opinions is how down to earth your dialogue is. Everyone else feels like they're selling me something, whereas yours feels like a chat down the pub. So for that 🍻 for the review, very easy and informative to listen to 👊
OLED TVs have ultra-deep blacks and mind-blowing micro-contrast that MiniLED just can't match. Colors pop with stunning richness, and the viewing angles are basically perfect-no need to worry about sitting dead center.
C4 is way too expensive and within 3 year you get burnouts which changes colour profile (especially yellow will get faded and will be gone within 5 to 7 years).
@@anthonytan5105 Go to rtings and theirs burnout test. There are many TV brands, even LED and miniLED and judge by yourself. The guy in shopping mall has no other option than to recommend you that TV. This is his life or your money....
I've had 855 (not with K at the end - probably because eastern europe) for more than a month and it's still going very well and I honestly haven't heard anyone complain so far
@@amirshabani9886 My old OLED from LG (E8) is 6 years old now and I dont have any of these issues. Still same brightness and no burn in. Get over it, OLED is the best you can get. Those "burn in" arguments have not been a thing anymore since 2018. I used this TV almost daily and gamed heavily on it.
@@JenningHo ignore comments like above, these are influencer which try to defend OLED. OLED will get replaced by mini and micro LED by 2 years from now. Human perception won't see differences when it comes to colours or blacks, but for sure will see burnouts of OLEDs.
Probably the best real use comparison between 2 tv’s I have seen without going tech mad. Thank you
i would totally agree, the LG C4 screens are 10 percent darker than G4 screen. Another downsize about oled tv the 77 inch can cost more than double compared to the 65 inch.
You can get the C4 77" right now for $2200
Bro. I unboxed a 75 inch U8NQ by myself, that thing was HEAVY! still amazed by the fact i didnt have my back broken or something. the hardest part was lifting that thing up. First make sure the TV is as close as possible were you need to place it then used Both hands underneath and the screen against my chest, no walking. 😅
I have the LgC4 and it is very good, but if I had known beforehand the care that must be taken so that it does not burn or have image retention, I would have bought another technology. Having to zoom in on black bands, not constantly putting subtitles, static images, logos, not many continuous hours on. The image is really beautiful and everything works excellent, but I don't like to worry about what I see or not. And the image is still being burned and retained, the options that come with it do not protect it if the person does not have the necessary care.
ya i dont want the extra stress also from owning an oled especyally at this prices atm !
@@tigresa821 I had the LG C8 for 6 years and only this year I have seen some very faint image retention.( Note that I used this C8 on maximum brightness all the time. ) Slight burn in where subtitles are , but that's because I used blue and green color text. If You use only white,gray or black color on subtitles,then this will never burn in. I have the 77" C4 now and it's absolutely stunning. Learned my lesson now. Neutral colour subtitles and should be ok.
Don't be, got the 55inch LG OLED B6 from 8 years ago and it started recently showing burn in but that's my own fault for playing Gran Turismo 7 @maximum brightness 🔆
Still 100% not noticeable in normal viewing conditions. Great TV. Just don't watch static images all the time with high brightness
@@N-e.o Haha ya play at 200 nits problem fix ^^
meanwhile top miniled tvs already pass the 3000 nits mark and have spectacular highlights in HDR or Dolby vision .
No ABL or any worries u will get any burn in with every content u want even at maximum brightness .
Cheaper and v close now with the oled black levels.
@@sorinpopa1442 Leds do burn down too.. all sorts of defects due to hot components, more brightness = more heat 🔥
You seem like Leds are heavenly protected or something? they maybe do not suffer pixel burn-in but suffer allot of other problems! Like whole screen suddenly not turning on .. {those kind of problems} 😑
Great review and love the honest and straightforward language 👍👍👍👍
Do you experience judder / stutter on the TCL? Why don’t you include this in your reviews. Thanks
No I’d did well with motion. No juttering
All LG C series have a way too dim game mode. I dont under why people hype it so much as a monitor and gaming Tv.its only good for watching movies for anything else its just too dim.
Just get the G4, in 55 inch its only like 200€ more than the C4 in my country.
I don't think that's the case anymore. Used to be the case before the CX, but the CX and every model after have been good, if you ask me.
@@Tomiply I had C3, Philips OLED818, QN90C, QN90D and C3 was dimmer then 818. Its unplayable once you get used to a brighter tv. C1, C2, C3 and C4 are all dim in game model! They have a very aggressive ABL and APL. Its a bit better out of game mode but then input lag is 30-40ms. Go check some video comparisons of lg vs samsung qd oled and you will see how dim it looks in comparison and its even worse compared to Mini led TVs. Even my old Sony X95J pissed all over C3 game mode and its just a FALD TV.
@@EldenLord. I don’t need a new main TV for my living room. I was looking for a gaming and monitor screen in 42-43” and g series dont go bellow 55”. I decided for QN90D because its really good for gaming and pc usage. It Has almost exact pq like philips oled818 just brighter. I had qn90d next to 818 and managed to calibrate it so that it looks very close to the philips oled and I’m now very happy with the picture. I wasnt able to do the same with qn90c too many things are off like usualy with Samsung. I was positively surprised how accurate are the colors, wb and all that stuff on qn90d for a Samsung TV because Im not a fan of their colors, usually they are totally off and with some adjustment the picture is now almost oled like just brighter. Sure there are still scenes where oled wins but I mostly play just racing games and they looked most of the time better then on c3 and 818 and for windows there is no contest both 818 and especially c3 are useless compared to a mini led as soon as there is some sun light in the room.
@@EldenLord.terrible advice. Get a s90d or 95d. Qd-oled will always be better than W-Oled and Samsung has better motion. Lg g4 sucks and isn't as good as s90d
Wish you mention picture profiles and out of box colour settings.
In Greece the tcl 65" c855 costs 1699 euros whereas QD oled Samsung 65" S90d for 1599 euros and Woled LG C4 65" cost 1699 euros. Which one would you choose? Thanks
One of the oleds at these price points...
Hi! Would this TCL a better option compared to LG QNEDS?
LG QNED (their miniled equivalent tech is a disaster, they've bet all their money on OLED for years)
Yes LG qned are the worst. If you want mini led go for samsung or hisense
Prob with TCL and hisense is they dumb down and give us inferior models than the same models in north america... And they charge us more for privalige. I got last years samsung s90c for same price as the TCL and being a QD OLED it kills both of the tvs your compairing. Comes with 4 hdmi 2.1s and the color upgrade with QD oled is night and day.
I just returned a 77" S90D. That thing was a cheap piece of junk. The panel was great looking outside of the awful video processor samsungs are known for having. I got static in dark areas. Not black areas, but darker areas. It looked like s**t.
it looks like LG C4 is suffered from screen burning with some color accuracy issues like mine OLED :)
On the TCL does it have the slider in the picture options to turn the backlight down ?
Yes
is the c855 and TCL QM8 the same tv
QM851G has 2880 zones, whereas C855 has 1344 zones in the 65 inch variant. So no, the US version is superior...
@@inceptionsdeven the 2024 version of Europe? I’m not sure
@@mohamada2177 Yup, the C855 is the 2024 version, they usually change the number each year. For 2025 its probably going to be called C865
@ thank you very much. So to be sure the c855 is not the c855k? I got the c855 (2024) for 1200 euro. Don’t know if it’s a good deal or nah!?
@mohamada2177 I believe the "K" is just for UK region, they are the same TV.
Does the C4 have a green tint on white backgrounds viewing from the sides?
Slightly. It’s not hugely noticeable until it side by side another TV with a better white balance like the TCL
But you haven't calibrated colour to be in pair. Please fix that. At least set Film profile and turn on blue filter on C855. Also play around HDR, dynamic brighness and so on to achieve same effect as on OLED. To be honest profile against OLED phone or Macbook Mx (these has perfect color profile calibration). Just run some HDR 4K RUclips video where you have animals (zebra, chameleon, elephant, giraffe, pinging).
In my case my TCL C805k almost matched the Samsung S90C when I tweaked the picture settings especially the white balance. TCL QD MiniLED can suppress blooming to a minimal level and to the extent that it is unnoticeable, by which Samsung QLED TVs do struggle to achieve. The TCL also has a Local Dimming to have a deep black like the OLED.
I had the tcl it was good but just took it back and got the Sony Bravia 7 its $200 more and it’s a better mini LED TV. I haven’t had no dirty screen effect or blooming nothing. The Sony has the way better processor its just better.
I have had the TCL C755 for almost a year now and I can say that the motion picture is bad and I have never seen such a bad TV in my life. The panel itself is otherwise clean without DSE. Of course, I would also prefer a Sony TV when they are so much too expensive. For the 65" size, the Sony Bravia 7 costs $2,275 and then the 75" size costs $2,600. The Hisense 65U8NQ is much more affordable because it costs 1,340 dollars and that is almost 1,000 dollars cheaper than the Sony Bravia 7 and then, for example, the Hisense 75U8NQ costs 1,645 dollars, which is again a huge difference compared to the Sony Bravia 7. Sony is simply much, much too expensive.
Would you recommend upgrading from an LGC2 55” to the TCL primarily for console gaming? Might go upto 85”
Don’t do it please !
@@kaysule lol thanks. To be honest I still LOVE my C2
@@dunbar91its the same tv as the c4 ,no need to upgrade!
No need I'm searching for it right now but it is out of stock
Hisense U8N is an even better choice than this TCL C855 and the price is very tempting. Regarding the OLED C4, I would prefer the Samsung S90D or the S95C, as I can get them for the same price
F***K Samsung.
They are shit'e..
But go and buy one, and after 3 years some internal hardware or the screen has a deficit.
Hisense can be better in US but in Europe it is worse, even OS is not google but Vidaa...
After binge watching a load of content from various channels I finally jumped on the C855. Just need to add that a unique positive that I found with your reviews/opinions is how down to earth your dialogue is. Everyone else feels like they're selling me something, whereas yours feels like a chat down the pub. So for that 🍻 for the review, very easy and informative to listen to 👊
Thanks a lot! Glad I could help you!
OLED TVs have ultra-deep blacks and mind-blowing micro-contrast that MiniLED just can't match. Colors pop with stunning richness, and the viewing angles are basically perfect-no need to worry about sitting dead center.
Ok but white color on Oled sucks. Just do a comparison watching some videos on RUclips.
@herciomarcos I have never seen anything about it
@@Andrejsoft Oled C3 I saw. It seems Oled G4 and Samsung S90C, D does not have this white colour problem.
@@herciomarcos I have the D variant :)
The lg c4 has better detail. The TCL washes out the picture sometimes as it's too bright in certain scenes. The C4 is a much better tv overall.
nah the C4 is too dim in a lot of the scenes. Plus, it's too expensive
C4 is way too expensive and within 3 year you get burnouts which changes colour profile (especially yellow will get faded and will be gone within 5 to 7 years).
@@johnnybravo4045 hi there. Burnout still happen? The retail guy told me that no more burnout due to newer technology. He recommended Sony A80l..
@@anthonytan5105 Go to rtings and theirs burnout test. There are many TV brands, even LED and miniLED and judge by yourself. The guy in shopping mall has no other option than to recommend you that TV. This is his life or your money....
You sound like you bought the C4 and tryna convince yourself that you made a right decision. Lol
If i was rich, i would buy an oled TV (maybe G4), so i bought 75C89B (= TCL 75C855) 😉.
Thanks for a nice review! 😉🙏🏻🇸🇪
Love this review smack on I feel the between mini led and oled
Not sure how this is better than the C4 .I personally would not buy TCL over any Oled.
Why you wouldn't buy TCL , mother toast.?
sdr content on tcl is too white
the tcl was bad adjusted
esta comparacion que ??? si hasta la lg b4 es mejor que la TCL C855
Seriously LG... were are the details @6:33 😮
WTH, just a black mess right there pfff not cool LG 😡
Assume not ashoom
great explaination on both thank you sir 🫡🫡🫡
If you want OLED, just get the Samsung S90D, LG OLED sucks, for the TCL, that 98-inch would be awesome
How? Lg supplies led panels for Asus monitors. I am planning to buy Asus vy239hf eyecare+ monitor. What do you recommend?
@@Muradkhan-r2l7w because it's a Quantum dot oled which the C4 isn't
C4
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
outperformed....
😂😂
The LG C4 should last you a good 7 or 8 years. The TCL C855K will very likely die within a week.
I've had 855 (not with K at the end - probably because eastern europe) for more than a month and it's still going very well and I honestly haven't heard anyone complain so far
Maybe if you watch 30 minutes per day lol,it will burn in or loose brightness after 3 years max!
@@amirshabani9886 My old OLED from LG (E8) is 6 years old now and I dont have any of these issues. Still same brightness and no burn in. Get over it, OLED is the best you can get. Those "burn in" arguments have not been a thing anymore since 2018. I used this TV almost daily and gamed heavily on it.
OLED is known to degrade over time, can't see how it can last you a good 7 or 8 years, especially when compared to C855 which can do just as well.
@@JenningHo ignore comments like above, these are influencer which try to defend OLED. OLED will get replaced by mini and micro LED by 2 years from now. Human perception won't see differences when it comes to colours or blacks, but for sure will see burnouts of OLEDs.
Stop! Oled is superior.
U sound like a chronic masterBater