This has been the best video series I've seen, heaps of fun with lots of guys working at once. I'm always suprised this channel doesn't have more subs, It seems like you should have several millon considering the build quality, content & editing skills. Best automotive channel on RUclips in my opinion. Also, Dirt Cinema are legends for letting you guys take over their house and workshop for that long. I'm gonna subscribe to them right now.
Cool build! The same stuff went on my 2001 ram over the years. Muffler, manifolds, overdrive, leafsprings. Then the rust came in and had me replace bed rails, inside frame supports. With these trucks there worth keeping going because everything is in stock at brick and mortar or the hardware isle at a home improvement store.
This takes me back to my old 1992 2500 Suburban. I had to replace my manifolds as well. It did have a 4l80 and a full floating 12 bolt factory geared to 4.10, but it was being motivated by the 190hp TBI 350. That poor truck couldn't hold a slight Ohio incline at 65mph without dropping into 3rd while EMPTY. Loaded was even worse, while getting 11 mpg the whole time. It was a rusted mess that I eventually sold and replaced with a 2001 5.3 Yukon XL that got better fuel mileage and could tow more at the same time. I still see it driving around the town I sold it in almost 5 years later.
I lost the overdrive in my '91 OBS at about 80,000 miles. $1200.00 dollars and a case of beer later I had a 2nd transmission installed and drove the truck another 120,000 miles before I completely wore it out. It had a 4L60e in it as well.
Awesome Rich Just wondering when it’s going to get a BUS ENGINE! These videos are only EPIC. Never a dull moment. Enjoyed the ‘explaination’ of how you went for buying the ‘support truck’, photos on social media owners posted/comments etc.. swinging the idea that it was a very well ‘fettled’ truck but the trans was on its way out. That’s everytime in my vehicle purchasing experiences… EVERYTIME! Not just a transmission but every other part also.. you almost seem ‘HUMAN’.. but of course that’s just our crazy minds overworking etc. Keep on keeping on this channel is by far the best for project builds in my (usually wrong but not this time) opinion. Best wishes to all involved.. (Don’t under estimate your influence and inspiration for us mere mortals.. it’s life changing for some of us!)
I got a 99' K2500 8 lug 5.7 Vortec 4L80E . Towed my 17' bass boat for for 24 yrs and 288K. #7 cylinder layed down a few days ago-0 psi. Pretty sure its cracked a ring, I think. Proving difficult to diagnose. Doesn't act like a head gasket. Anyway...stuff happens. Good to see Rich keeping this one up, its a nice truck.
Nice truck but what you needed was a 8 Lug 2500, totally different beast in the GMT400 platform of trucks. the 6 Lug 2500 trucks are basically a1500 with a slightly higher GVW, 9.5" 14 bolt rear, bigger rear brakes, 1 extra leaf in the spring pack. The engine, trans, transfercase, front diff., steering and front suspension are all identical to a 1500. The 8 lug 2500 trucks from 1988-2000 have a 10.5" 14 bolt rear, hefty 3" wide leaf spring pack, TH400 or 4L80E trans (1991+), larger diameter torsion bars, bigger front and rear brakes, bigger front hub bearing assemblies, etc. It's just a heavier duty truck all around even the frame.
That's what I was thinking. That "2500" is more of a heavy half ton (1500HD). It's still a great truck, but not what most people would consider a true 3/4 ton.
I can second this statement. When my wife would drive my old truck similar to this, next time I got in something would break almost every time until she got pregnant then the truck was ok with her 🤣🤣🤣🤦
@@austindoud273 the abs system is abysmal at best it's only the rear wheels. You still have to pump the brakes anyway delete it and save a whole lot of headache.
I love this series. I just picked up two OBS Chevys. A '90 Silverado and Scottsdale, both two-tone paint. I want the same "low and high" truck pair you've got going, purpose built and compliment each other. Always impressed by your energy and skills. You are great motivation! Peace from Kentucky. ✌
I bought a 97 k1500 to tow my toy hauling, it had 220000 miles on it but had never been wrecked. I bought a vortec 383 strocker that is smog compliant in CA ( 390 hp / 440 lbs torque) and had the 4l60e built and it made a great tow PU. I end up with about $12,000 in to it however I have 70,000 mi warranty on the motor and 40,000 on the transmission, if I had bought something new I would have had 4 to 5 times that amount in it.
Ive been that route except mine was a farm truck with rusty bed and rusted around the edges,i had a early 94 Chevy extended cab short bed Z71 onyx gloss black with the quicksilver center stripe running down the sides and the tailgate, and it had engine issues with the tbi 350 bored 0.40 over the previous owner removed the cat because they bought the wrong exhaust pipe tubing kit for the truck cat flange was bigger, and they welded the cat back exhaust pipe tubing kit directly to the back of the truck downpipes coming back to the y pipe that got cut off and it was a deep tone dual glass pack muffler and heartthrob stainless steel 2.25 inlet and 3 1/2 inch slant cut single wall exhaust tips and when it backfired through the exhaust pipe and tips it was deafening sound like the 12+16 guage double barrel side by side shotgun going off simultaneously LOUD!!! Anyways after all the the maintenance issues that the rebuilt truck didn't get it finally gotten straightened out new fuel pump sending unit assembly from Spectre premium, replacement a team performance tbi distributor O'Reilly Auto parts ignition coil bwd, and the napa 7mm high temp resistant silicone jacket belden ignition wire set and the ac Delco r45ts spark plugs it kind of ran ok, swap in a gm ac Delco ignition control module and it ran Bett but would still snap and backfire when you get into it neighbors hated my truck. ... finally after rebuilding it twice except replaced the injectors and was having a issue with the injector pod leaking pulled out the injectors and realized it was two different injectors on the passenger side was the 5279 a lower lph 305 fuel injector and the right side of the exhaust pipe and tip is the side it usually backfire through,, the dr side had the right 5206 350tbi and the ac Delco fuel pump relay only worked part of the time, they had taken the motor from a 87 Chevy p30 bread truck step van lol and it used the wrong oil pressure sensor switch/fuel pump cutoff switch for the early 94 truck so another reason it was backfiring when I would get into it taking off from the stop sign, and the factory tbi from the 87 the throttle shaft bushings were gone fuel leaked out the bottom of the tbi and so did air lol, so I said screw that and got on marketplace and found someone parting out a relatively lower mileage tbi 350 truck and it had not been messed with so I gave him about $60 and swapped out the entire tbi and tossed it out of the doghouse of the truck on the ground, and then the tps sensor only works right from 1800rpm to half throttle so changed that and it ran good!!! Rhen the replacement transmission from a 1990 Chevy k2500 th700r4/4L60 quit shifting into third gear then lost first,then wouldn't shift at all and I am like nope I am done with this truck and my buddy wanted it anyways, but I only decided that because I was offered the 2000 dodge ram laramie slt quad cab long bed 318 magnum V8 46 RE AT manual shift transfer case lever on the floor gloss black with most of the white pinstripe 1500 4x4...
Rich if you are ever in the midwest around June, I think you should try to make it to the Amsoil Ultimate Callout challenge in Indianapolis. The biggest diesel event in the country. ODSS drag racing as well as the UCC challenge itself where competitors drag race, dyno, and sled pull the same truck with a points system to win the championship. As well as a show N shine with 500+ trucks. A lot of very unreal race trucks to see and many other youtube channels you could collaborate with. Check it out!
What a treat it must be to work on a California truck! I’d rather smack my toes one at a time with a hammer than try to remove exhaust bolts on anything from Minnesota.
So I guess there are some jurisdictions(or at least there used to be) where it would be harder to register a truck if it was heavy duty rated. So GM's answer in the 90s was to make half ton trucks with heavy duty suspension marked as 2500. They had no higher tow rating and the rear springs were the only thing changed(and possibly the brakes). They also put in lower gearing. They then switched in the 2000s the other way by making 2500s into 1500hd by putting in lower rated rear springs. They stopped after 2003 so I assume they either didn't think it was worth it anymore or the law changed. I personally never would buy a 2500 6 lug(those 4l60s are bad enough on regular half tons, much less one bought with the express purpose of towing and hauling) The rear axles also have a bad habit of grenading on the highway. The 1500hds are perfectly fine though.
@@91CTD yup, although the 9.5” 14 bolt is only semi-floating, not full floating like the 10.5” 14 bolt. Still a big upgrade over the half-ton’s 10 bolt.
Absolutely loved my 96 Chevrolet Silverado. I got it new and pulled a big boat a month later and then it ended up in the shop getting a Comp Cam, ProCharger, Holly Injectors, Full MSD Ignition system, Edelbrock Intake Manifold, Trick Flow Heads, True Dual Flow Master exhaust and so on. I miss that truck, it was great, it never let me down and would run with the beat of them. I also never complained when pulling the big Sea Ray 320 boat again either. I’ve thought about but I nice used super cab and doing a frame off restoration and adding a nice ProCharged LS and making it my daily driver because I can work on every part of it easily.
Not worth it... mine sits in driveway. Daily drive mazda 3 currently.. unless you have the gas money. I drive it after work and on weekends.. If you cannot afford newer tundra best trucks to buy. I prefer 2500 or 3500 gas long bed.
@@mysticjedi6730 the reasoning behind my possible decision is because I want to be able to work on every aspect of my vehicle. It has 10 times less sensors and more room in the engine bay to work. It maybe not have all the creature comforts of todays modern vehicles but you can install a Tesla style radio in it just fine if you want all those features. I absolutely loved mine back in the day. Currently I have a fully built 6.7 powerstoke diesel that will continue to do the heavy hauling yet it’s beat every stock car it’s ran against but will still practically pull the world and I can get 24 on the highway at 75mph (without trailer).
@@mysticjedi6730 BTW, I wouldn’t be doing a full out engine build on this one like I did on my original 96 back in 96. If I did anything I would just be an LS swap maybe procharged.
@@P-J-W-777 when i opened my diff very little fluid came out, must have been slowly leaking, if not removing cover at least make sure its topped off.. the rubbers around suspension are drying out and cracking, ball joints will have to be replaced because rubber was never treated with something... grease nipples and treat all rubbers yearly.. just painted my frame and exhaust as well with tremclad high heat paint.. works well to prevent exhaust rust.. my cat clogged at 300,000 km. must have been causing serious mpg loss because of this as mpg went up when i replaced it.. a cat and a couple of exhaust clamps from amazon solved issue for cheap.. i had the 3500 long bed gas 10 years ago and stupidly got rid of it.. now have a 1998 c1500 short bed. was thinking of air bags but went with timbren suspension upgrade.. works well. i just cant afford to drive it to work an hour each way.. definitely good trucks though.. i will have mine in 10 years..
@@P-J-W-777 I paid 1350 canadian for my truck 5 years ago... just needed a little body work to look nice.. 5.0 l v8 works for me.. only 300 km or 185 miles on it.. nice.. This video made me want to buy another..
Just some good ol guys from norfolk county making it work. Couldnt be happier tonsee how far the channels come. From one local guy to another, love the content 🤙🤙
NOTHING gets worse mileage than a ford with a 460! I had a beautiful 90, regular cab with an aluminum flatbed and it didn’t matter if you were loaded heavy or running bobtail it was gonna get somewhere between 7-8 mpg 🤣 you could literally watch the gas gauge go down. Awesome sound though with some proper exhaust 👍
What you have is a 2500 light duty. Basically a 1500 with 9.5 semi float rear, bigger rear brakes, and heavier rear springs. Was a pretty popular package, lots of them around here. 4L80E was optional, standard with the 6.5 Turbo diesel.
@working_country ___ The F250 LD was also popular in my area. They have those goofy 7 lug wheels. How much money could Ford have possibly saved just removing one lug per wheel.
That's a light duty Chebby 2500. The HDs had fender flairs and other options. I had a two tone 1989 2500 Scottsdale light duty 2wd, TH400 and a 4:10 posi that ran flawlessly until I sold the truck with 215k miles. The engine was another story. It lost compression on one cylinder at 75k and the valve stem seals where leaking. It had 70k miles on it when I bought the truck. A GM Goodwrench engine cost $1,6oo in 1996. Besides replacing fan clutches and alternators - I kept a spare in the truck - and non-greaseable lower ball joints which let go when backing out of a gas station, the interior was the most durable I've ever had in a vehicle. The built quality was also better over the square body years except for certain paint clear code pealing issues. The 1996-2002 MY with the Vortec engines were quite an improvement over the gutless TBI engines.
Not gonna lie in Qc the GMT400 are still everywhere! even i just sold my 89 Silverado SC LB lowered still running the 5L TBI. some in better shape then other. but they aged better then all the other brand of the same yrs(88-99)
My z71 had good floors and doors and a really decent shape dash and the tbi obs dash lights illuminated the way that they were designed to with no burnout spots so I left it that way and the factory floor shifted transfer case lever plate was also illuminated and it all worked, the factory control head was still in it but the factory amplifier control module was not under the dash and it instead had a half assed instead pioneer deh 150mp best buy special with the tsg4244 4x6 dash speakers and I swapped out the pioneer for a sony cdx L600x cd player black faceplate version I like the look of much better id prefer the factory control head but I was not spending $200 for the compatible amplifier module so it would work..
Obs hack!! If you wanna run 6lug wheels on your 2wd truck. You can us 2500 2wd rotor on your 2wd spindles. Literally swap rotors. For the rear swap rearends with a 4x4 truck or run adapters. I don't recommend 2pc tho. I've had multiple wheels come off. Obs beds ain't getting no cheaper
One thing about the mid 90's trucks, especially the Vortec starting in 96 with the 5.0, 5.7 and 7.4, the catalytic converters are known to fail, they will destroy the muffler, people will get their cats changed, leave the muffler because "it's still good", nope, that thing is clogged, change it all
Rich is right, the further east you go the more religious of a following these get. We dont care the mileage, we will rebuild a motor and transmission if the frame is still there! Sadly ours dont have frames anymore. Our trucks hit under 200k and theres just nothing left of it anymore. I have had someone approach me, while sitting in a 2500 duramax and ask me what I'd take for it cause it was clean.
My 93 f150’s trans went out on me, the front pump failed and it wouldn’t shift anymore, it’s probably rebuildable because when going downhill the speed built up enough to shift into the remaining gears and overdrive. And as it sits it makes Cavitating pump sounds and will move in reverse and drive. Also I just bought an Arkansas crew cab obs Ford diesel dually from my friend and might rebuild it.
That is a light duty 3/4 ton AKA a heavy half with a 9.5 inch rear end. They did that in the 80s all the way through the early 2000s only down side to them in the 90s they put the 4l60 trans in them.
Those 33" meats on the OBS exacerbated the issue of mediocre tranny. TV n RUclips personalities like to toss on big meat n profile cool rims but rarely if ever address the ring n pinion gears. Changing the rpm that the drive train now operates at has a negative domino effect on everything thereafter. Rebuild the tranny: update clutch packs, install proper torque converter to match truck's work load requirements, proper valve body AND regear pumpkins to match change in tire diameter then recalibrate speedo to make new parts play together as friends. I know you know all this, but it gets expensive n you rather spend time money n effort on more fun stuff. We all get it. Keep the good content coming.
Found a shop to paint and polish the paint while we went back home (free parking). Along with that, it is getting fender flares, new trim, AC fixed and going on power tour. Picking it up on Friday
Its a pre-vortec obs chevy of course its gonna let you down lol need to go carb and vortec top end we'll be a huge difference in gain/ reliability and the 4l60 were odd transmissions that era before they went electric (4l60e)
There's no truth about the engine here. The L05 isn't a performance motor, but it will run forever at 2K rpm - it's built for truck service. TBI is super-reliable and easy to work on. Moving parts are less stressed than the vortec. Going vortec is a performance move. They should have gone to the 4L80E transmission for towing work. The 350 L05/4L80E pair is an easy 500K miler, but usually the body rots before the drivetrain gives out.
@@samcooke2742 very true vortec is more performance my personal experience the tbi system seems to be trouble especially is someone touches the harness I usually tell people do a cheap intake swap with a hei dist. And a Holley or Edelbrock for a reliable daily simple and cheap
So how do you like the headlights? Are they brighter and do they throw a better light pattern than stock? I'm interested in picking up a set for my 03 Silverado.
Watching you guys having a ball rebuilding 0ld school rigs is great love your work . but one thing you guys did WRONG is use them quick connects , here in Australia they are called scotch locks ,, you should be tied to a bumper bar and floged with shoelaces till your dog go moo .. they are the worstest thing to put on a car other than that keep up the great work Ps don't worry too much about the exhaust pipe being bit out of level can't see it from the captain chair
It's a heavy half ton that's way it as k2500 on door just means is got a 12bolt not a 10 heavier leaf springs to I believe the only 2 thing not sure but for sure the 2500 only means a heavy half in them 88-98
it is a light duty 2500. the only difference between it and the 1500 of the same year is the 2500 6 lug has the 14 bolt rear , bigger rear brakes, and 1 extra leaf in the rear spring pack. I have 2 of them.
You said why do that to a obs chevy but the question is why would you not do stuff to a obs chevy. They are damn good trucks some of the last good ones gm built and I personally think they are some of the best looking trucks produced
The OBS just couldn't compete with the 55 lol. I don't kno2 ho2 I've watched all these videos and it took me till now to realize the twins are actually twins 😅 🤦♂️ they were finally both on camera at the same time wearing different hoodies
That’s what Chevy transmissions do, old or new. There is a transmission shop in my small town and I know the owner. There is always a huge pile of trucks sitting out front waiting to be fixed and it’s usually about 80% gm, he says General Motors keeps him in business 🤣
This has been the best video series I've seen, heaps of fun with lots of guys working at once. I'm always suprised this channel doesn't have more subs, It seems like you should have several millon considering the build quality, content & editing skills.
Best automotive channel on RUclips in my opinion.
Also, Dirt Cinema are legends for letting you guys take over their house and workshop for that long. I'm gonna subscribe to them right now.
Cool build! The same stuff went on my 2001 ram over the years. Muffler, manifolds, overdrive, leafsprings. Then the rust came in and had me replace bed rails, inside frame supports. With these trucks there worth keeping going because everything is in stock at brick and mortar or the hardware isle at a home improvement store.
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I had a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 for 4 years. Thing was the best truck I ever had. I miss it
One of these trips you need stop in Utah at FabRats and Matt’s. Lot’s of great off road build content!
This takes me back to my old 1992 2500 Suburban. I had to replace my manifolds as well. It did have a 4l80 and a full floating 12 bolt factory geared to 4.10, but it was being motivated by the 190hp TBI 350. That poor truck couldn't hold a slight Ohio incline at 65mph without dropping into 3rd while EMPTY. Loaded was even worse, while getting 11 mpg the whole time. It was a rusted mess that I eventually sold and replaced with a 2001 5.3 Yukon XL that got better fuel mileage and could tow more at the same time. I still see it driving around the town I sold it in almost 5 years later.
I lost the overdrive in my '91 OBS at about 80,000 miles. $1200.00 dollars and a case of beer later I had a 2nd transmission installed and drove the truck another 120,000 miles before I completely wore it out. It had a 4L60e in it as well.
Wish there was a bigger following for old school trucks! Great work you guys!!
Trying to find one to work on makes it clear the following is growing and fast.
@working_country ___ and dodge for?
Awesome Rich
Just wondering when it’s going to get a BUS ENGINE!
These videos are only EPIC. Never a dull moment. Enjoyed the ‘explaination’ of how you went for buying the ‘support truck’, photos on social media owners posted/comments etc.. swinging the idea that it was a very well ‘fettled’ truck but the trans was on its way out. That’s everytime in my vehicle purchasing experiences… EVERYTIME! Not just a transmission but every other part also.. you almost seem ‘HUMAN’.. but of course that’s just our crazy minds overworking etc.
Keep on keeping on this channel is by far the best for project builds in my (usually wrong but not this time) opinion. Best wishes to all involved..
(Don’t under estimate your influence and inspiration for us mere mortals.. it’s life changing for some of us!)
I got a 99' K2500 8 lug 5.7 Vortec 4L80E . Towed my 17' bass boat for for 24 yrs and 288K. #7 cylinder layed down a few days ago-0 psi. Pretty sure its cracked a ring, I think. Proving difficult to diagnose. Doesn't act like a head gasket. Anyway...stuff happens. Good to see Rich keeping this one up, its a nice truck.
Nice truck but what you needed was a 8 Lug 2500, totally different beast in the GMT400 platform of trucks. the 6 Lug 2500 trucks are basically a1500 with a slightly higher GVW, 9.5" 14 bolt rear, bigger rear brakes, 1 extra leaf in the spring pack.
The engine, trans, transfercase, front diff., steering and front suspension are all identical to a 1500.
The 8 lug 2500 trucks from 1988-2000 have a 10.5" 14 bolt rear, hefty 3" wide leaf spring pack, TH400 or 4L80E trans (1991+), larger diameter torsion bars, bigger front and rear brakes, bigger front hub bearing assemblies, etc. It's just a heavier duty truck all around even the frame.
That's what I was thinking. That "2500" is more of a heavy half ton (1500HD). It's still a great truck, but not what most people would consider a true 3/4 ton.
Mine is a mix between a 1500 and 2500
I own a 96 gmc k2500 8 lug. Couldnt agree more lol.
It's still a TBI
Good stuff Rich! Transmission rebuilds are just part of owning one of those trucks, get used to changing door handles as well!😂
What a beautiful truck. Ive got a 95 myself and I wish it were that clean
The twins with the lightbar, hysterical 🤣🤣🤣
1:24 true craftsmanship on that hangar
It was just completely jealous it wasn’t getting all the love. Doesn’t like to share the spotlight
I can second this statement. When my wife would drive my old truck similar to this, next time I got in something would break almost every time until she got pregnant then the truck was ok with her 🤣🤣🤣🤦
But is looks mad when the blinkers are on...
😂😂😂
Do the gmt800 master cylinder upgrade and abs delete. Makes the brakes on the 1988-1995 gmt400s actually good
The brakes are so bad going from the 55 to the 95. The 95 feels like you blew a brake line
@@DEBOSSGARAGE put a master cylinder from a gmt800 and delete the abs made my 1994 stop better than my 2016 work van
i second this
They trap air in the abs there's a little button on the side of it pump the brakes hold them and hit the button it'll shoot out a bunch of air
@@austindoud273 the abs system is abysmal at best it's only the rear wheels. You still have to pump the brakes anyway delete it and save a whole lot of headache.
I love this series. I just picked up two OBS Chevys. A '90 Silverado and Scottsdale, both two-tone paint. I want the same "low and high" truck pair you've got going, purpose built and compliment each other. Always impressed by your energy and skills. You are great motivation! Peace from Kentucky. ✌
My favourite bodystyle next to the square's.
I run 2 99, 2500's Suburban for the family, Silverattle for my mobile repairs.
I bought a 97 k1500 to tow my toy hauling, it had 220000 miles on it but had never been wrecked. I bought a vortec 383 strocker that is smog compliant in CA ( 390 hp / 440 lbs torque) and had the 4l60e built and it made a great tow PU. I end up with about $12,000 in to it however I have 70,000 mi warranty on the motor and 40,000 on the transmission, if I had bought something new I would have had 4 to 5 times that amount in it.
Fantastic content Rich !!
Thanks! I like these videos because I don't do any of the recording so I have no idea what the video will look like
Hey Rich, I hope you get that 2500 oil sprayed to preserve it. It is a nice looking truck.
For sure!
@@DEBOSSGARAGE dirt conema website not working
Ive been that route except mine was a farm truck with rusty bed and rusted around the edges,i had a early 94 Chevy extended cab short bed Z71 onyx gloss black with the quicksilver center stripe running down the sides and the tailgate, and it had engine issues with the tbi 350 bored 0.40 over the previous owner removed the cat because they bought the wrong exhaust pipe tubing kit for the truck cat flange was bigger, and they welded the cat back exhaust pipe tubing kit directly to the back of the truck downpipes coming back to the y pipe that got cut off and it was a deep tone dual glass pack muffler and heartthrob stainless steel 2.25 inlet and 3 1/2 inch slant cut single wall exhaust tips and when it backfired through the exhaust pipe and tips it was deafening sound like the 12+16 guage double barrel side by side shotgun going off simultaneously LOUD!!! Anyways after all the the maintenance issues that the rebuilt truck didn't get it finally gotten straightened out new fuel pump sending unit assembly from Spectre premium, replacement a team performance tbi distributor O'Reilly Auto parts ignition coil bwd, and the napa 7mm high temp resistant silicone jacket belden ignition wire set and the ac Delco r45ts spark plugs it kind of ran ok, swap in a gm ac Delco ignition control module and it ran Bett but would still snap and backfire when you get into it neighbors hated my truck. ... finally after rebuilding it twice except replaced the injectors and was having a issue with the injector pod leaking pulled out the injectors and realized it was two different injectors on the passenger side was the 5279 a lower lph 305 fuel injector and the right side of the exhaust pipe and tip is the side it usually backfire through,, the dr side had the right 5206 350tbi and the ac Delco fuel pump relay only worked part of the time, they had taken the motor from a 87 Chevy p30 bread truck step van lol and it used the wrong oil pressure sensor switch/fuel pump cutoff switch for the early 94 truck so another reason it was backfiring when I would get into it taking off from the stop sign, and the factory tbi from the 87 the throttle shaft bushings were gone fuel leaked out the bottom of the tbi and so did air lol, so I said screw that and got on marketplace and found someone parting out a relatively lower mileage tbi 350 truck and it had not been messed with so I gave him about $60 and swapped out the entire tbi and tossed it out of the doghouse of the truck on the ground, and then the tps sensor only works right from 1800rpm to half throttle so changed that and it ran good!!! Rhen the replacement transmission from a 1990 Chevy k2500 th700r4/4L60 quit shifting into third gear then lost first,then wouldn't shift at all and I am like nope I am done with this truck and my buddy wanted it anyways, but I only decided that because I was offered the 2000 dodge ram laramie slt quad cab long bed 318 magnum V8 46 RE AT manual shift transfer case lever on the floor gloss black with most of the white pinstripe 1500 4x4...
holy fuck please press enter once in a while
Atascadero CA and pismo Beach
And that's your Deboss Garage "Quick Clip" moment
Rich if you are ever in the midwest around June, I think you should try to make it to the Amsoil Ultimate Callout challenge in Indianapolis. The biggest diesel event in the country. ODSS drag racing as well as the UCC challenge itself where competitors drag race, dyno, and sled pull the same truck with a points system to win the championship. As well as a show N shine with 500+ trucks. A lot of very unreal race trucks to see and many other youtube channels you could collaborate with. Check it out!
I watched the whole series and only on this episode did I hear " twins" . It makes so much more sense now. I aint proud.
What a treat it must be to work on a California truck! I’d rather smack my toes one at a time with a hammer than try to remove exhaust bolts on anything from Minnesota.
So I guess there are some jurisdictions(or at least there used to be) where it would be harder to register a truck if it was heavy duty rated. So GM's answer in the 90s was to make half ton trucks with heavy duty suspension marked as 2500. They had no higher tow rating and the rear springs were the only thing changed(and possibly the brakes). They also put in lower gearing.
They then switched in the 2000s the other way by making 2500s into 1500hd by putting in lower rated rear springs. They stopped after 2003 so I assume they either didn't think it was worth it anymore or the law changed.
I personally never would buy a 2500 6 lug(those 4l60s are bad enough on regular half tons, much less one bought with the express purpose of towing and hauling) The rear axles also have a bad habit of grenading on the highway.
The 1500hds are perfectly fine though.
the 6 LUG 2500's GMT400 trucks all had the 14 bolt 9.5" rear axle vs the 10 bolt 8.5" in the 1500's. The rear brakes are also larger .
@@91CTD yup, although the 9.5” 14 bolt is only semi-floating, not full floating like the 10.5” 14 bolt. Still a big upgrade over the half-ton’s 10 bolt.
Gotta love a TBI chevy, especially a '95!
Absolutely loved my 96 Chevrolet Silverado. I got it new and pulled a big boat a month later and then it ended up in the shop getting a Comp Cam, ProCharger, Holly Injectors, Full MSD Ignition system, Edelbrock Intake Manifold, Trick Flow Heads, True Dual Flow Master exhaust and so on. I miss that truck, it was great, it never let me down and would run with the beat of them. I also never complained when pulling the big Sea Ray 320 boat again either. I’ve thought about but I nice used super cab and doing a frame off restoration and adding a nice ProCharged LS and making it my daily driver because I can work on every part of it easily.
Not worth it... mine sits in driveway. Daily drive mazda 3 currently.. unless you have the gas money. I drive it after work and on weekends..
If you cannot afford newer tundra best trucks to buy. I prefer 2500 or 3500 gas long bed.
@@mysticjedi6730 the reasoning behind my possible decision is because I want to be able to work on every aspect of my vehicle. It has 10 times less sensors and more room in the engine bay to work. It maybe not have all the creature comforts of todays modern vehicles but you can install a Tesla style radio in it just fine if you want all those features. I absolutely loved mine back in the day. Currently I have a fully built 6.7 powerstoke diesel that will continue to do the heavy hauling yet it’s beat every stock car it’s ran against but will still practically pull the world and I can get 24 on the highway at 75mph (without trailer).
@@mysticjedi6730 BTW, I wouldn’t be doing a full out engine build on this one like I did on my original 96 back in 96. If I did anything I would just be an LS swap maybe procharged.
@@P-J-W-777 when i opened my diff very little fluid came out, must have been slowly leaking, if not removing cover at least make sure its topped off..
the rubbers around suspension are drying out and cracking, ball joints will have to be replaced because rubber was never treated with something... grease nipples and treat all rubbers yearly..
just painted my frame and exhaust as well with tremclad high heat paint.. works well to prevent exhaust rust..
my cat clogged at 300,000 km. must have been causing serious mpg loss because of this as mpg went up when i replaced it.. a cat and a couple of exhaust clamps from amazon solved issue for cheap..
i had the 3500 long bed gas 10 years ago and stupidly got rid of it.. now have a 1998 c1500 short bed.
was thinking of air bags but went with timbren suspension upgrade.. works well.
i just cant afford to drive it to work an hour each way.. definitely good trucks though.. i will have mine in 10 years..
@@P-J-W-777 I paid 1350 canadian for my truck 5 years ago... just needed a little body work to look nice.. 5.0 l v8 works for me.. only 300 km or 185 miles on it.. nice..
This video made me want to buy another..
Just some good ol guys from norfolk county making it work. Couldnt be happier tonsee how far the channels come. From one local guy to another, love the content 🤙🤙
NOTHING gets worse mileage than a ford with a 460! I had a beautiful 90, regular cab with an aluminum flatbed and it didn’t matter if you were loaded heavy or running bobtail it was gonna get somewhere between 7-8 mpg 🤣 you could literally watch the gas gauge go down. Awesome sound though with some proper exhaust 👍
I run a BBC in my '71 F250 highboy and have since 1979.
What you have is a 2500 light duty. Basically a 1500 with 9.5 semi float rear, bigger rear brakes, and heavier rear springs. Was a pretty popular package, lots of them around here. 4L80E was optional, standard with the 6.5 Turbo diesel.
@working_country ___ The F250 LD was also popular in my area. They have those goofy 7 lug wheels. How much money could Ford have possibly saved just removing one lug per wheel.
That's a light duty Chebby 2500. The HDs had fender flairs and other options. I had a two tone 1989 2500 Scottsdale light duty 2wd, TH400 and a 4:10 posi that ran flawlessly until I sold the truck with 215k miles. The engine was another story. It lost compression on one cylinder at 75k and the valve stem seals where leaking. It had 70k miles on it when I bought the truck. A GM Goodwrench engine cost $1,6oo in 1996. Besides replacing fan clutches and alternators - I kept a spare in the truck - and non-greaseable lower ball joints which let go when backing out of a gas station, the interior was the most durable I've ever had in a vehicle. The built quality was also better over the square body years except for certain paint clear code pealing issues. The 1996-2002 MY with the Vortec engines were quite an improvement over the gutless TBI engines.
As a k3500 owner this is great. More motivation to keep mine on the road.
This video motivated me into buying an obs Chevy and it happens to be I now have two 😅
Not gonna lie in Qc the GMT400 are still everywhere! even i just sold my 89 Silverado SC LB lowered still running the 5L TBI. some in better shape then other. but they aged better then all the other brand of the same yrs(88-99)
Funny you’re at KOH this video. Last video I suggested building a truck for it haha
Been to KOH twice and I’ll definitely be back it’s an absolutely amazing time all day and all night action
YES! OM606 TURBO!!!
Would enjoy a video on how to tighten up the steering on the gmt400
Install a solid front axle LOL 😂
You got the full set, a Chev, a ford and a dodge all in white! Should do a challenge when you get them all done.
Did I hear you say OM606? Ooooh can't wait for that build! 600hp 2JD please 😁
My z71 had good floors and doors and a really decent shape dash and the tbi obs dash lights illuminated the way that they were designed to with no burnout spots so I left it that way and the factory floor shifted transfer case lever plate was also illuminated and it all worked, the factory control head was still in it but the factory amplifier control module was not under the dash and it instead had a half assed instead pioneer deh 150mp best buy special with the tsg4244 4x6 dash speakers and I swapped out the pioneer for a sony cdx L600x cd player black faceplate version I like the look of much better id prefer the factory control head but I was not spending $200 for the compatible amplifier module so it would work..
Obs hack!! If you wanna run 6lug wheels on your 2wd truck. You can us 2500 2wd rotor on your 2wd spindles. Literally swap rotors. For the rear swap rearends with a 4x4 truck or run adapters. I don't recommend 2pc tho. I've had multiple wheels come off. Obs beds ain't getting no cheaper
Have a 97. Love those old rigs.
I’ve been waiting for this! I’ve got a ‘94 K2500 that I love!
Hell we always towed in od with those obs chevys lol😳
One thing about the mid 90's trucks, especially the Vortec starting in 96 with the 5.0, 5.7 and 7.4, the catalytic converters are known to fail, they will destroy the muffler, people will get their cats changed, leave the muffler because "it's still good", nope, that thing is clogged, change it all
That 55 is cool. Same year I was born , so it has to be good.
Rich is right, the further east you go the more religious of a following these get. We dont care the mileage, we will rebuild a motor and transmission if the frame is still there! Sadly ours dont have frames anymore. Our trucks hit under 200k and theres just nothing left of it anymore.
I have had someone approach me, while sitting in a 2500 duramax and ask me what I'd take for it cause it was clean.
Only Rich could make me watch a video containing an OBS
I wanna see more of the 400
We call those 6 lug 2500 a Canadian 3/4 ton.
Pay that transmission man double because you got to pat frenchies!
i got the same pickup just a gmc, but its a 94 3/4 ton 6 wheel as well
11:14-11:25 I will now play for you the song of my people
It’s a hit song, I’m just looking to get discovered.
Great channel Rich
I miss the way those tbi trucks with a torque cam tow vs the newer trucks i have had.
My 93 f150’s trans went out on me, the front pump failed and it wouldn’t shift anymore, it’s probably rebuildable because when going downhill the speed built up enough to shift into the remaining gears and overdrive. And as it sits it makes Cavitating pump sounds and will move in reverse and drive. Also I just bought an Arkansas crew cab obs Ford diesel dually from my friend and might rebuild it.
That is a light duty 3/4 ton AKA a heavy half with a 9.5 inch rear end. They did that in the 80s all the way through the early 2000s only down side to them in the 90s they put the 4l60 trans in them.
Like buying anything used that is 10+ years old or 100k miles. You're gonna want to put some love back into it at some point.
Have a 90', has a 700r4 which I enjoyed finding out😂
The obs are the new square body. I've got a 94 c2500 and my daughter has a 94 gmc 1500.
That’s a lite duty 2500. Basically it’s the same truck as a 1500 f44
"Quick clips " I've always called those Yankee connectors Lol
Thumbs up for the zero fawks and singing. 😂
You got a 2500 ld(light duty)
yes 4l80e time in my truck as well out with the 4l60
What’s rust free? I’m back here in the salt belt of Ontario saving my lunch money too go west and find something rust fre
Those 33" meats on the OBS exacerbated the issue of mediocre tranny. TV n RUclips personalities like to toss on big meat n profile cool rims but rarely if ever address the ring n pinion gears. Changing the rpm that the drive train now operates at has a negative domino effect on everything thereafter. Rebuild the tranny: update clutch packs, install proper torque converter to match truck's work load requirements, proper valve body AND regear pumpkins to match change in tire diameter then recalibrate speedo to make new parts play together as friends. I know you know all this, but it gets expensive n you rather spend time money n effort on more fun stuff. We all get it. Keep the good content coming.
I sure hope your going to redue the wiring for the lights ; scotch locks are a SIN
My 98 obs chev just left me stranded at the liquor store
15:30 NO, don't use the vampire clamps!
40 year old Apache? I hate to tell you , 40 years ago was 1983 man.
Meant it had been abandoned for 40 years
Always been my dream for an om606 in my Silverado
Even a 1.9 tdi with upgraded injectors and turbo match power/torque of a stock 7.3 power stroke
Not a real chev guy but those old obs girls are loyal for sure. If filthy rich can’t fix it, likely it ain’t broken 💯
Its funny when you keep a truck long enough you end up doing some jobs twice. And the 2nd time around you do it twice as quick. 😂
more gmt400!
Found a shop to paint and polish the paint while we went back home (free parking). Along with that, it is getting fender flares, new trim, AC fixed and going on power tour. Picking it up on Friday
Did you ground the lights on the indicators causing them to dimm whenever you're flashing? 🤔
If you know anything about a 4l60 if you’re towing a trailer even if empty always tow it in 3rd
Its a pre-vortec obs chevy of course its gonna let you down lol need to go carb and vortec top end we'll be a huge difference in gain/ reliability and the 4l60 were odd transmissions that era before they went electric (4l60e)
There's no truth about the engine here. The L05 isn't a performance motor, but it will run forever at 2K rpm - it's built for truck service. TBI is super-reliable and easy to work on. Moving parts are less stressed than the vortec. Going vortec is a performance move. They should have gone to the 4L80E transmission for towing work. The 350 L05/4L80E pair is an easy 500K miler, but usually the body rots before the drivetrain gives out.
@@samcooke2742 very true vortec is more performance my personal experience the tbi system seems to be trouble especially is someone touches the harness I usually tell people do a cheap intake swap with a hei dist. And a Holley or Edelbrock for a reliable daily simple and cheap
So how do you like the headlights? Are they brighter and do they throw a better light pattern than stock? I'm interested in picking up a set for my 03 Silverado.
Watching you guys having a ball rebuilding 0ld school rigs is great love your work . but one thing you guys did WRONG is use them quick connects , here in Australia they are called scotch locks ,, you should be tied to a bumper bar and floged with shoelaces till your dog go moo .. they are the worstest thing to put on a car other than that keep up the great work
Ps don't worry too much about the exhaust pipe being bit out of level can't see it from the captain chair
I was welding on the 55, so I was not part of the wiring, but I will replace them all when I get home. I HATE those things.
@@DEBOSSGARAGE that's a good thing then ,,, it's called doing the Dave do it once do it right ....
It's a heavy half ton that's way it as k2500 on door just means is got a 12bolt not a 10 heavier leaf springs to I believe the only 2 thing not sure but for sure the 2500 only means a heavy half in them 88-98
it is a light duty 2500. the only difference between it and the 1500 of the same year is the 2500 6 lug has the 14 bolt rear , bigger rear brakes, and 1 extra leaf in the rear spring pack.
I have 2 of them.
@@91CTD well mostly right lol I knew it was not much I have had a couple of them myself
The 4L60 is good behind a 2500lb sedan.......not so much behind pick up trucks. Hence the popularity of the 5L80.
700r4... great, right up until you need them.
You said why do that to a obs chevy but the question is why would you not do stuff to a obs chevy. They are damn good trucks some of the last good ones gm built and I personally think they are some of the best looking trucks produced
Me too. Second only to the GMT800
I thought it was that body style that had a 2500 with six lug/semifloat/4L60E or a 2500HD with a 8600lb GVWR, 8 lug/fullfloat/4L80E.
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Blows my mind that you can just drive without a bonnet in America.
The OBS just couldn't compete with the 55 lol. I don't kno2 ho2 I've watched all these videos and it took me till now to realize the twins are actually twins 😅 🤦♂️ they were finally both on camera at the same time wearing different hoodies
I’ve never met a transmission guy who doesn’t slam and throw parts around on a metal workbench, must go with the job like welders and cigarettes.
Ive never met a mechanic that does not cuss like a sailor.
I wish I had those wheels on my diesel 4x4 van. Wrong lug pattern and I’m only here for the music.
That’s what Chevy transmissions do, old or new. There is a transmission shop in my small town and I know the owner. There is always a huge pile of trucks sitting out front waiting to be fixed and it’s usually about 80% gm, he says General Motors keeps him in business 🤣
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OM 606 or m57 would be sweet
Just a4l slippy doing 4L slippy things
whats the mileage?
Not sure I can watch anymore knowing there’s scotch locks in one of your trucks… cool truck though!
I was not aware they put those in. they will be coming out as soon as its home
@@DEBOSSGARAGE I figured! Made me laugh pretty good
Yeah there was a few odd ball years where gm ain’t figured it out yet
4L60... you know the deal.