The Truck You Want, But Won't Admit It.
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- Gavin shows us his MINT Saskatchewan 7.3 IDI swapped 1972 F250 Highboy!
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If the opportunity ever arises, you need to have Gavin join the channel. He fits in perfectly.
Definitely some great chemistry between them.
They sound very similar tho it would be confusing
What a legend!
You guys are hilarious together!!!! Please have him back
I'd love to see these guys get something running in Rich's junkyard series.
I just opened the comment to say the same thing.
Man, that guy is just one of those rare people that are just plain likeable. Nice truck too
Most of the time, the starting issue on those old engines is caused by air intrusion through the fuel return line caps. Fix those, add an electric lift pump, new set of glow plugs and my old 91' F250 had no issues firing off down to -10F.
Yes, upvote this. Electric lift is the single best mod I ever did to mine.
in case of doubt, glowplugs on a pushbutton/switch, my 6.2 starts at -30celcius unplugged
Lift pumps make the biggest difference. Maybe it's just my issue to get air in the system after it sits for a week or 2. Plugs help too but it doesn't get that cold for me. Only like 15° but it's better than using the starter to warm up the engine.
There's multiple issues that can hinder easy starting on these. After addressing everything else, my issue was simply that the old stock starter cranked too slow. Got a Powermaster and now I don't have those issues. These things want to spin REALLY fast when they start. Batteries, cables, starter, anything you can do for it will help.
Yup, I put a Carrier lift pump on my 86' with new glow plugs and it would start no problems way down cold. Miss that old 6.9idi...
I put a 6.9 idi with a C6 into my 1953 IHC R120. I converted the R120 to 4X4. The engine sound was fantastic. The engine was lazy but economical. I drove this combination for 20 years and 225,000 miles
Gavin needs to be part of your channel!! You guys are awesome together
So cool watching these “ readers rides” style videos.
A very cool build, and it amazes me how two guys are talking about their builds like old buddies.
That's nice to hear the story about folks being nice to each other. That's the way it was when I was growing up. FYI I grew up in Los Angeles if you can believe that. I don't care where you're from or what color you maybe. We are more alike than we are different . We need each other now more than ever. God bless you and yours
I think Gavin should start his own channel lol. Love that guy 😂
Peg and Slave Lake changed my opinion about 7.3 IDI than anything else. If I needed a vehicle in a post apocalyptic world, this would be the one (assuming it comes with two cases of ether). Really cool truck.
I agree with the other comments below. There is a natural chemistry happening here. Watching Rich and Gavin talk shop is like watching two life long buddies out in the garage. A real joy to watch!
That guy seems too young to have that many good stories. I hope he makes a return appearance.
I am not afraid to admit that I do not want it. I am so happy that someone else has it. Thank You!
🤣🤣
Had me grinning through the whole video. This guy is worth getting in more often!
I'd take an IDI 7.3 over a 6.0 or a 6.4, any day.
Back in the day my buddy had the same 4x4 ‘72 highboy with the 390” man we took that thing through every mud pit we could aim it at…..it never failed and never ceased to amaze use………good memories
Best Canadian on RUclips. Love your videos . I would watch everything you put out even if you posted daily. Keep up the excellent work and content. Your extremely talented and I am amazed how much effort you put in on your builds . The Cat/Ford is definitely my favorite. It's going to be one of the baddest builds on RUclips.
Nobody could ever put out this level of quality on a daily basis. Need to temper your expectations. It's either quantity or quality. This channel has chosen quality.
Agree 💯%🏁🏁🏁
@@SampsonGG You're not understanding my point brother. No one said to post daily . The point was I'd watch everything he does because he's a amazing talent.
I know. We're both right. I'm just saying.
@@SampsonGG you’re not right telling him he needs to temper his expectations. You somehow misunderstood what he said.
What a nice & honest guy! It was a pleasure listening to both of you talking about his build.
gotta love minty Canadian boys, cheers from thunder bay
Gavin you're a ripper of a bloke, the pair of you had me in laughter tears 10 out of 10, RUSTY from Australia.
To me as Brazilian born the Bumpside will always be the most legendary most iconic most amazing design pickup truck ever built , there’s something so right about everything, in Brazil Bumpside were built from 1971 all the way to 1992 beginning of 1993 still selling the left overs like crazy … the Brazilian ones had Diesel engines from 1979 and from 1990-91 turbo diesel factory and 5 speed Clark transmission! Beautiful 1972 HighBoy love the copper gold colour ❤
"Just don't tell your new truck you're still visitng your old one!". Priceless!
Great interaction tween these 2 truck guys..Damn my IDI sitting in an 89 F250 is one of the best trucks ive owned 19mpg if i keep it at 2k RPMs, the body is falling apart it starts as long as I do the glow plug prayer brakes are terrible, If I need to go fast i cant haha. Ive often considered putting the IDI into my 71 W200,
Yep if u keep them at 55 or 2000rpm that's what they are built for when the USA only had 55 limit highway
Excellent that you mentioned the RPMs. Most ppl give economy without RPM, kinda worthless
What tire size and gear ratio are you guys running to get 19mpg?
I bet it's faster than the 300 i6 lol I used to joke my 4 speed 88 f250 was literally the slowest vehicle on the road wich I believe it still is
@johnmorgan8750 he's probably soft peddling it while shifting and riding at 2 k he's getting 19 mpg and it technically wouldn't matter if they were in hi 4s or low 3s but his speedometer wou😮ld tell you his gear ratio . I had a 90 f250 5 spd 2wd I'd get 19 + keeping rpms low and turning 2-2200 max usually, drive my 96 f350 4x4 srw pretty similar hitting hi 17s on regular mixed driving and have bumped hi 19s on a couple long hiway trips 4:10 in my 96 I'm certain the 90 had a little longer legs. Some people will try to make a case of driving it harder for better mpg also these people are not in with basic math etc. Be it checking fuel mileage or not understanding the obvious more rpm = more fuel consumption. But they technically don't offer a big variety of gears as a rule a lighter 2wd f250 2wd will be about the highest geared and lightest truck in the category of f250 vs 350 450 ok I wrote a lot I doubt it gets read lol
I have a 93 7.3 idi f350 and it’s been one of the most reliable trucks I’ve had. No it’s not the fastest/ strongest but it’s always pulled what I’ve wanted to, reliably.
"Loyal" as a certain one-legged Albertan would say.
Typical Anglo Canadian!!!! So awesome! What a great dude!
The 6.9/7.3 IDI's are one of the most overlooked diesels out there. They are not powerhouses, but are more civilized than a 5.9 Cummins and economical. I'm rebuilding a 6.9 out in the garage for my truck. Like Gavin, I'd rather have a non-electronic diesel.
I love my 6.9/7.3 idi's and would agree with your statement other than the civilized part lol, I don't think being heard a mile away from the clatter 😆
@@everettschroeder1441 A 5.9 Cummins is louder and has a much narrower powerband. Ford chose the V8 International over the Cummins (when they owned part of the company) for this reason. Remember, the buying public still had the Olds 350 diesel stigma on their minds in this era...
My 91 7.3 is wayyyyyy louder than my brothers 5.9 Cummins, both from the sheer clatter of the motor and the exhaust (granted I have a 3.5" straight pipe and a stack and he just has a 4" straight pipe) but also the cackle in the exhaust of a idi. I won't disagree with the wider and much better power band than the Cummins, and honestly stock for stock the 7.3 had the 12v in power hands down, but the architecture of the idi killed performance above stock power levels and that why they never caught on like the 12v or the powerstroke after them
If your idi is louder than 5.9 (sans commonrail) theres something wrong with it.
Love the truck but love the banter between you two even more.
I don't know what it is about the idi, you get one that starts right up after sitting in the freezer for a month, or one that won't start for NOTHING, EVER. Of all the ones I've ever driven, it was strictly 1 or the other no in-between. She's either a quick starter, or you hold the key and say see you next Tuesday (or wait until the battery runs down whichever comes first)
I think we towed like 6000lbs uphill for mostly 100 miles one way going maybe 15 mph rapping out the engine in a 87 f250 with a 6.7 with no oil. Then drove another 100 back with no oil then after another 2 weeks in 110 degree weather driving around town hauling a 16ish foot flatbed sometimes loaded with logs sometimes not then we loaded up a john deer riding mower on a Saturday morning about 80 degrees and the truck just wouldn't start went through 2 batteries recharged the batteries went through 2 more and the thing just would not start I wish I had gotten to check the compression but seeing in how it would barely do 50 mph after a 10 miles of acceleration I'd bet it was shot or maybe just had a clogged fuel pump but I remember that faithful 100 mile day the temp meter was well pegged around 230 degrees for 80% of the trip uphill
But I'd have to say it was still better at hills than my 88 300ci i6
@@hickstylez yeah lack of turbo on the original 7.3 iDi did make it a real shitshow pulling trailers up a hill. They just look at a grade and start crying. But they do run forever if even halfway decently looked after. Albeit consumption to power ratio is never acceptable no matter what you do, unfortunately. Today as of 2022 personally I'll leave engines like that to numbers-matched great shape pickups, the kind you couldn't bear tearing apart (it's only 100% original in good shape once). 7.3 power stroke is the one I'd go after if if the price is right and project demands but even that's getting expensive to maintain
The idea of an old idi diesel is torque, and mileage. My 1970 Highboy, with a 7.3 also has cross over steering and panhard bar, Wich has improved stability ,steering anomalies like bump-steer, etc cleared up it's a dana60 kp, new rotors, calipers. It's like driving a newer truck. , aluminum rad, new rear springs with my design rear spring hangers, some poly mounts like cab body mounts and spring bushings. Has air springs for my 3000 lb camper. Limited slip (power-lok) in rear. There's always room for improvements. Lots of these motors around and even more parts available then used to be. I still would upgrade the motor but like the re-liability and rpm range.
Old peg would fall in love with this
Lol
Came here for Peg reference
There be only one true Canadian born American…….and he has one leg.
I lived in Wisconsin back in the day there was always a famer that would give you a spare tire or yank you out of the ditch. No charge better times
You find the best comedic storytellers! I need some more Kevin content. He's real good for that too!
Coming soon the Rich and Gavin comedy show😆. I would pay for that. So much knowledge it's like listening to cardiologists speaking open heart surgery😁🛠.
This guy is so Canadian. He seems like a great hang!
I'll take a 67 - 72 any day but I prefer the innies vs the outies. 73 - 78 round eye is the best looking truck ever built.
Quote of the day, "I prefer the innies vs the outies"
67-72. 73 was a dent side.
Yes that’s a good looking truck but there’s something funny about the shape of the back of the cab on the dent sides which is why I am a bump side fanatic.
I'm in Glover VT, just off i91 in VT. About 25 minutes from the Canadian border. You guys are always welcome, plus I have a three bay shop if you need it.
Gotta be the most Canadian truck video I have ever watched.
*old American pickups are cool) I want one too)* 🔥🔥🔥
Nice build. Peg would be over the moon with that truck. Thanks for sharing
I work with Gavin and he's a good guy. Definitely have him back👍
Excellent story!! What a great hour well spent. Thanks!
Nice truck, owner seems like pretty cool guy to .
My 7.3 idi NA always start on the first few turns. Its a matter of air intrusion, proper glow plug wiring and operation. When all is healthy, they start fine.
I laughed through this whole video. Great truck and a hilarious dude 🤣.
About 15 yrs ago I built a 72 bumpside crew cab short bed put in a 7.3 Idi c6 auto Dana 60 high pinion from a 79 F350 as well as the better power steering from the 79 100% rust free imported body ( Im in BC) painted it a dark maroon black Xlt interior, that truck attracted more attention than most of the muscle cars I ever owned and I had some nice ones, ended up being sold to a guy in Fresno CA, its actually my RUclips pic.
This was awesome! Rich and Gavin are definitely my favorite Canadians...and I've only watched about 10 min of Gavin. We won't hold this Ford thing against him. I can't talk about gutless diesels that leak when I've got a 6.2L Detroit sitting outside. Anyways, this is one of the best channels on RUclips! - Everett
omg , "whats the chances of BOTH being serial killers", too funny..
Hey Rich, R and D performance makes a billet aluminum fuel return rail for those idi motors. They also have all sorts of other goodies for an IDI
Owning a 92 Banks equipped IDI and a 97 cammed, tuned 460, I want it but no parking.
Turn up the pump, put glowplugs in it every 3 years. Mine starts great down to 0⁰F, pulls like a stock PSD.
That guy has the perfect vibe for RUclips...
If you put the powerstroke starter on it it spins a lot faster and you have no trebles starting. I have two of them and both of them will start in 42° weather totally morning cold start with no glow plugs. Also helps to give it a little injector pump timing
It's all about starter speed
Yep the big beast Idi starter sucks the newer 94 starter spins much faster
IDI Power! 💨
Awesome video, so good to see people smile. Love the F truck. Such a great story
I rolled my 72 F250 360/ 4 spd 4x4 . Drove it NYC/ Steamboat Springs in 82. A lot of gas! And stayed in the right lane a lot.
Superb, both the truck and the owner. You two just bounce off each other.
I had a 79, same color. Meth head stole the drive shaft & tail light's. He got busted for meth & died in prison. He wont be stealing anymore drive shaft's. PS, The 400 got 10 mpg going downhill wth the wind at your back or uphill pulling anything. Just an old farm truck.
Oh no loss
What a cool fella! And what a beauty truck
always added a check valve between the mechanical fuel pump and the filter housing and levered the pump as much as the slots allowed to advance the timing and they were reliable starters
Take a shim out of the advance 👍🏼
I have the check valves and I never had to touch the timing. If the cold start advance is working it will fire right up with 5 seconds of glow plug
I don't know why they always start hard. I have a 12 valve Cummins that will start with the barest bump of the key in any weather. No grid heater on it either.
@@Bloodbain88because they are indirect injection compared to the direct injection in the Cummins
Background music around 19 min - Matt's Off-road Recovery uses that too. Made me smile. Thanks Rich - great truck
Glow plug relays and fuel primer on a button. Fires right up every time.
The best thing for the Idi is 6.5 glow plugs with the nut head trimmed to fit and a ford starter solenoid and a mechanical switch. The gm glow plugs are pretty tough last forever.
I ALWAYS wanted a truck like this, and if i have to buy a new one or build one of this, I prefer, instantly, build a beauty one like this.
our vehicles (and belongs) speaks for us such in many ways, this is not the exception.
love and stoicism is not a common combination.
excellent video.🤘👏👏👏
Thies two guys jive better than I do with my own brothers.
Hell yes!!! Long live the idi!!! Most reliable engine ever!!! Like they one guy said check valve before the filter good glow plugs and controller mine always starts in the Wisconsin winters!!! That's a awesome build!!
I had a 90’ dually with a 460 gas and it didn’t matter if you were running bobtail or pulling a huge load it got a consistent 8.5 miles per gallon.
Same here.Still run 460's 9 miles to gallon empty or with 14,000 on the trailer. Least it's consistent.
Oh i want it and would admit it, slowly building my own 72 f350 wrecker with idi swap.
Strange this shows up on deboss I'm currently working on a 76 highboy that I'm putting an 89 12 valve and an nv4500. This honestly raises the cool level up a notch from my truck.
Good lord what a funny guy! Hilarious video!
having supper with gavin tonight haha guy is never a dull moment 😎
You too are hilarious together. Your vids spotlighting others builds are my fave, keep it up
Nothing beats the sound of a 7.3
a 24v isb cummins going threw 6 gears beats it every time lol its ignorant and beautiful at the same time
I love how it looks like it came out of the factory that way. Excellent job. 👏
I have a '93 IDI and a '72 Highboy. Running and driving. Tags, insurance, mud tires, everything. I like them both too much as they are to cut them up and combine them. Even though the result would be EXTREMELY EXCELLENT in every way. Remember, the old fashioned 4x4 stuff that is considered problematic now are "features" and not impediments. At the end of the day the real story is how he scabbed in a proper Saginaw power steering box to a 4th Gen Ford. Not the engine/trans/axle swap. Making the steering geometry work is a far more complicated task than dropping a new engine/trans into something with a divorced t-case.
Bad ass! I sure miss my '67 half ton short bed fleetside. When the old FE 352 blew up, I replaced it with a nice FE 390 high performance engine.
That bit about staying at the strangers house had me cracking up.
Awesome man just did same thing. Sold the highboy to make room for the new addition to family. 1977 2wd supercab sitting on a 1978 4x4 supercab chassis
You to need to collaborate like... Permanently! Not only do you sound alike, you seem to think alike!
This guy is pure fun. So good.
Man just hearing both of you guys shoot the shit was so fun!
i love this truck. to me the 72 body style is the nicest ford ever made being a highboy is a huge bonus.
if too tight behind the wheel just get a smaller steering wheel.
i love the 6.9/7.3 idi yes they are gutless. yes they start terrible
but they sound so great and they do good on fuel.
this is a great build. i love the truck! awesome!
The problem there is lack of a proper power steering system. I mean, yeah, Ford did make factory PS for them. But you don't want it. Working a proper Saginaw PS box into there can be done but they always end up a bit janky. You are better off sticking with the manual box and muscling it around with the big steering wheel. At least that was the reasoning I used on my 72.
I have a 7.3 idi Ford f250. 200k miles and not an issue with it aside from some interior trim/switches came loose. The motor is epic. Just keeps going and keeps going. Non intercooled even. I just took it 38 straight hours towing a huge 20k lb boat across 3 states. Ended up just pushing a little further and a little further and ended up just doing the entire drive STRAIGHT except for gas/bathroom/food stops (ate on the road) she may not be the fastest especially pulling a very very heavy load up long steep mountains, but she will tow and she won't quit
As someone with an American flag headliner, I approve of his Canadian flag headliners, a nice touch 👌🏼
I've got a 79 F250 Super-Cab that I am swapping onto a 99 Superduty frame. Had a 6.9 IDI that I was gonna put in it but after this video, it has convinced me to go with a power-stroke.
If you need a hand I’m making pretty good progress on my 77 Supercab project on 99 Powerstroke chassis. Willing to throw around ideas with you.
@@gavinmetcalfe140 That would be great. I'm working on getting the frame sandblasted, painted, and all bushing replaced then I'm gotta fabricate new mounts for the cab. Thinking about stretching the frame aswell to accommodate a long box
I used the frame from a crew cab long box so I had to shorten mine. Make sure to tighten the body mounts down to the brackets before you weld them as they squish some and you’re liable not to have it line up with the box.
I used the original Superduty cab mounts and bushings for ease of finding replacement parts. I had to do a bit of modifying of the front mounts as they were a hair narrow if I remember correctly.
You can use a 1410 yoke off the later axles and machine the spline section deeper so that it will bolt up to the shorter pinion of the older axle. You have to machine about .187"-.210" deeper. Works great on the dump truck I built. Then you dont have to do the conversion joints...
This is great information. I’m impressed you had the insight to do some machining and make it fit for easier maintenance in the future.
A really enjoyable video guys, what a character this guy is!, if possible can he make a return appearance sometime? 🙏
Nothing better than a Canadian car guy doing business with another Canadian car guy
good work truck - trucks pay for themselves
I love the headliner !
I love the way the rust on top look on those once the pain flakes off... I was walking not long ago trough downtown, I stopped for 5 minutes just to watch a green one from the 60 still looking solid with a nice coat of wax but underneath you could see the transition from paint to rust to metal.
I love IDIs, you just dont shut them off when it gets cold.
Give that man his own RUclips channel
Nice old rig, Love them High Boys
You should hire that guy somehow👍🏻
Must have never driven one in good shape! No problem starting mine.
I've run mine for the last three years in Alberta winters. Sits in the field while I work for 8 hours at -45c no block heater fires up no problem.
I've been saying for years this is the best option for these trucks. Simple, cheap, easy to work on. Hard to go wrong with these IDIs
Over built engine tuned for low power = Reliability. I own a 94 turbo idi, a 07 5.9 , and a 06 "bullet proofed" 6.0. I cant even keep up with how many times the old idi had to go save my other trucks. The secret on old turbo idis is 2 flats injection pump , then adjust turbo to 8-10 pound of boost. mine with that setup and a zf5 4:10 gears tows my 14,000k enclosed trailer 70mph no issues... but lets not talk about mountains..........
You guys were giggling like a couple of school girls. That truck has more character than anything else on the road.
Those idis aren't to bad. At least it's not a gm 6.5🤣
F250 Highboy + IDI diesel is a match made in heaven! I'm in the middle of a 7.3 IDI turbo rebuild right now, but it's for my '87 crew cab 4x4 dually. Anyway, Rich, it would be great if you would have more IDI content on the channel!!!!
Well that's Canadian content Eh
Cheers boys from QUEBEC
That is the truck i want and i am not afraid to admit it. My 2 favorite body types are the obs and the hiboy
Highboys were made in different body styles