Is your PC now Obsolete?? Let's set some things straight!
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- Is your PC obsolete just because something new came out?
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When to upgrade:
1. When it stop working
2. Not meeting minimum requirements of new game/software you want to use
3. You just realize you are rich AF
I upgrade mine when it starts struggling with games.
4. You actually need a new PC that is around the same spec as your old one and you have budget to spare.
game til it dies xD
5. Wait for third party benchmarks
my no. 2 in 2009 was FFXIV
If we both throw our PCs off a cliff, mine is just as fast as yours.
mine is powered by kettle bells, that means mines is faster!
Not on Earth
@Caerus Tyr Only if you neglect air resistance.
not really i have 5lb dumbbell in mine 😁
@Caerus Tyr ...
I think videos like this one really show that Jay is interested in helping his viewers, not in satisfying the needs of manufacturers.
No manufacturer would support this message, because they want people to buy as much of the newest stuff as they can.
Thank you for being honest and showing you're primarily loyal to your audience.
Yea, Jay really seems like a nice person.
Not to mention that a major advantage of pc in terms of price is their modularity, so you only need to spend the money when you can afford to, manufacturers would love to get away from giving choice to consumers and force you to spend a lump sum on a pre-built machine
Very well said.😊
I mean realistically today manufacturers have enough demand they don't need jay shilling atm. him keeping this message consistent even when sales are low and manufacturers would like/need more people buying means a lot more than this video at this time (which ofc all kudos to Jay he's always consistent and proven loyal to his fans)
Lol, why wouldn’t he? He makes money making videos, not selling hardware.
My PC is 8 years old (i7-4930k). The only thing I've done is upgrade the RAM to 32GB, Installed an SSD and a 1080ti. It runs all games at max or high detail settings. People get sucked in by marketing hype and benchmark results. The reality is, most old PC's if paired with enough RAM and a GPU will still feel fast.
I have a i5 4440s(7years old) with 16 gb ram and GTX 1660 ti i think I ll upgrade it in 2024-25 with a ryzen 7800x untill then i am golden
@@UltraSolarGod my pc is 2 years old for me (prebuilt) and its an i-3 9100f D:
@@dani-op8oo noice 🔥🔥
Got i5 4570 gtx 650 with 8gb ram (prebuilt) got it probably late 2013 or early 2014, the setup was still running till it died a few days go.
@@Fr4nz2K RIP i saw a prebuild on amazon in my country which will be the perfect succesor for you
When to upgrade: when you can’t play the games you want comfortably anymore.
MY last upgrade wasn't even an upgrade. It was build a slightly newer system to give my other half a good Hand me down, not a 15yo dell with a Core 2 duo.,
same Idea I have lol
@@TheRathead80 best excuse to upgrade lol
Or just don't worry about playing newer games which are generally junk anyway.
@@FlyboyHelosim i mean most newer games ive played havent been junk in the slightest
It's only time to upgrade when your current system can no longer do what ever it is you mainly do at a level your happy with
Top comment!
Random guy named Linus gets triggered
This. I can still run all my games at 60 fps at the resolution and settings I am happy with, so there is no need for me to upgrade just yet. Probably the few things I would upgrade would really mean I have to upgrade basically everything since I am using an old ass FX series cpu and mobo and my ram is still ddr3, so I would need to upgrade pretty much everything, including my AIO watercooling since the bracket needed for AM4 sockets is no longer manufactured and coolermaster lied about it being widely available.
Finally got a Zephyrus g14 after 10 years of Intel 2nd Gen i5 and GT540, it couldn't playback video stable anymore
i couldn't agree more..
Something is only obsolete if it is completely incapable of doing what you want it to do at an acceptable level
True.
That puts some perspective into it...gtx 980 is still hanging in there so i guess ill stick with it for now
3080 came out..... well now I need to upgrade my obsolete card to keep playing CSGO
Can't stop my mobile 1050 from running downrezzed games lol
A beautiful and accurate description.
The fact that I could double all the specs of my computer without breaking bank was a good indicator I needed an upgrade.
The dream. Good on you bud
My friend tells me the processor Im going to buy is +- 4x as fast as the one I have now. And also 4x the RAM I have atm. Apparently my 8gb RAM isnt good enough anymore today xD
thats why i like not buying new things for long stretches, saves money overall and you get to be excited by how much stuff gets better.
@@FieryKanata you genuinely only need 16gb for modern gaming. 32 if you want to model/animate on the side. 64 is only necessary for movie-tier rendering, your over spending if you're getting that much
@@dankbonkripper2845 RAM isn't going to break my bank. Especially not because I don't need a GPU :)
When Jay mentioned that 8 year old FX 8350 and DDR3, it was like he was talking to me personally.
And me
@@Kebob- sammeeeee
Imagine having a fx 8320
Imagine having an FX 4300.
Currently is me.
i'm still running a Phenom 955 but it still holds up well for me
"Just because something new comes out doesn't mean the old one gets slower"
Apple:...
Comment of the day.
Enough said!
All the companies do it, apple got caught
Something I have told my customers since the early 90s. Only time this doesn’t apply is if the cache on a HDD/cpu starts failing (a rare occurrence in the whole scheme of things), but that’s then a case to upgrade/replace.
Apple: " Hold my beer "
_"This is my PC. There are many like it but this one is mine..."_
custom cooled 980 ti/4960k. gang shit
Full metal jacket, baby :)
A pc is never obsolete, because it all depends on the software/games you are trying to use and your definition of playable
Exactly. I gave my brother my old PC which has a 1060. He set it up in the family room. His son plays Hogwarts on it at low settings.
people on the newegg discord server are actually pretty nice, i posted my pc build/written specs, and the replies back surprised me. they suggested the parts that i should upgrade, but they also told me i should only upgrade if i feel its necessary, they didnt try and categorize my pc as obsolete, poor,, or not to their liking. they left out all their personal feelings about the build, so huge respect to the newegg discord community
"Old, not obsolete" - Terminator
I was thinking of the same quote!
"Obsolete, not old" - Terminator
Also the terminator when asked if he could beat the TX: "Unlikely, I am an obsolete design" lol
"genisys sucked so stfu" - the trolls probably
I'm still on a Ryzen 2600 and a 1070Ti and have never thought of upgrading cuz it does all the things I want to do.
nice :)
Still running i5 3470+GTX 770 4Gb, still fine, been running it for 6 years+ now, still holds up!
i bought a Ryzen 2600 last week because it does all the things i want to do
1600X and a 1070 and I feel exactly the same way.
3600 and 1080 and still rocking 1440p
you're simply too damn good, professionally and as a regular guy too. such a necessary voice in tech media.
thanks jay & team for the video
He is one of the few tech channels I like/trust cough cough techsmartt
here my dad still using gtx 1050ti and if I say that's obsolete his response is , "so are you"
thats deep
im still on a 1070. still gets the job done most of the time lol
I just bought a laptop with 8 cores and a 1660ti
I mean I have a 970 which still runs every game I throw at it.
I mean I am using a 1650super ..but it's really bother me how he is using that gpu to play some of the demanding games and getting like 30 ish fps
My mom had a new baby, I guess I'm obsolete now
Lol, you poor bastard.
Nah.. its more like ..That old crap wont do what's needed anymore ..time for another baby, who actually will!!
lol g1
You're not obsolete... you're Legacy!
hahahaha
Jay is that friend that talks sense into you when you're just about to go on another unnecessary hardware buying spree. We all need that friend.
Yes, but sometimes when your 2700x finally kills the VRM in the cheap UD3 motherboard you need to replace it with a Aorus x570 Master. At least that’s what I told my wife today. Mmmm shiny ...
@@brucegordon2985 Hehe. Good move.
@@brucegordon2985 Still rocking my 2700x on a b450. Couldn't be happier. A gpu change is the only thing I'm contemplating from Amd or waiting entirely for the next generation to compare again. Not digging what Nvidia has this go around.
@@alpsalish nvidia doesn't have shit 😂
@@sharifnasser7635 If you're talking availability i agree but if you're taking about performance then youre dreaming
My PC is medium 2016 specs (XFX Radeon RX480 and i5 6600k etc) but it's still absolutely fine. I swear elitism and marketing make people think they need to upgrade when they really don't
I came to know if my PC is obsolete.
But, instead, I learned a valuable life lesson. No lie.
Mine is lol. I have a gt 610 and i5 3rd gen lol
@brosif29 i can't even run cyberpunk setup
Remember bro. Your never obsolete with the homies.
@@sikeitsgolem8268 i don't have a gpu, even better, a Chip 😀
@@Mondschein5769 then u Don't have pc bro. Sometimes having a dead limb is worse then not having one
I'll upgrade when:
🅰️My wallet won't kill me in my sleep for doing so.
🅱️When GPU prices drop after everyone has their 3000 series.
Bingo! There is premium tier, normal tier, budget tier, and discount bin :) Got an i7 GTX 1070 laptop on clearance after the GTX 2000 series became the new hotness that I am very happy with. Probably won’t upgrade to 3000/5000 for another two generations.
@@JGComments the gtx 1070 still kicks butt!
Well done. My theory is dont upgrade until my computer is not performing as I want or I can do something appreciably better with the upgrade than I can now. I wasnt happy with my computer a couple years ago. I had a I5 with a gtx 970. It wasnt fast enough but played games fine, I upgraded everything but the GPU and I was happy as hell with my computer. I saw no reason for the 1000s cards as it stlll wouldnt let me play at 4k like I wanted, even the 2000 cards wouldnt unless I was going 2080 TI and if I have a 970, I think its fair to judge what I think of that kind of money for a GPU. Now I figure I can get 4 or 5 years out the 3080 and thats an acceptable value to me, so if its ever for sale I'll buy one. Still not willing to buy AMD, dont trust the drivers, but my patience could get the best of me if AMD is actually available.
@@bubblegumraymond When 3070s are actually in stock people will probably stop selling their 2080 ti for $600+
@@bubblegumraymond I'm not holding my breath. Thats without taking into account crypto is on the rise.
3:07 "im super happy that you have choice"
me: seeing the gt710 is the only GPU in stock
Bruh that's litterally my gpu atm
This was made around 3rd quarter 2020. Gpu prices were bad but the shit hit the fan within the last 2 months. With the global chip shortage, even manufacturers are having trouble with stock for their current cards let alone new ones!
I'm still rocking a 610.. it's not great
Thats the gpu i have rn lol trying to cop a 3060 ti
Hey, don't knock the GT 710, bro. My 70 year old dad has one so he can watch RUclips at 1080p on his 15 year old pre-built with onboard that got tearing at anything above 480p. (I am kidding, but also serious, it's a great bargain for old people computers, £40 for a crap graphics card that does what he needs it to sure beats buying a new computer)
Jay you and your team are great. Always letting us know when we need to pump the breaks and stop impulse buying. I signed up for the evga list for an rtx3080 ftw back when the cards came out and finally got the email to grab mine. I went through the check out and looked at the price (about 1000 usd) and thought to myself, my 2070 super does so well there is no way I can justify $1000 for a new card.
The only response to this in opposition would be that at the time if you did find one for $1k you could've probably turned around and sold your 2070 for 800-1200 just because other people were that desperate...maybe could've even made a few bucks.
I am just now starting to build my first of. I bought a EVGA 3070Ti ultra. Idk if I went overkill or not but I just wanted something nice
Got the same card love it no complaints
I bet you're glad you didn't buy it in retrospective now lol
"Brand loyalty only hurts the consumer" -- Some guy who taught me economics
happen everytime.. brand loyalty happen when thing work and don't faill.. which next gen is a issue... since it keep failing..
This is so true man. I'm a big strix products fan and this month it really hurt my wallet because I wanted to go with strix stuff and I could get the same stuff for cheaper
That doesn´t make sense. Brand loyalty is just customers being loyal to a brand if it ensures reliability in service and products. Bad management hurts customers and brand loyalty. In other words brand loyalty is a passive phenomenon. Brand loyalty "gets" not "does"
@@Marauder1981 Indeed, you understand the concept. I dropped out, so probably better than me lol. but There are lengthy lectures and many books written on the ties between what you are talking about and creating brand loyalty if you are interested.
I have builds for my kids at my house and theirs. That way when I upgrade, say, a video card, everyone gets an upgrade down the line. It has made my upgrades far more rewarding because multiple people win.
That’s how “old “ stuff becomes not old to people who don’t use demanding programs
That’s exactly how I justify my upgrades although it’s my wife that gets the hand me downs
I do this with my friends. Buddy got my 1080 when I got a 2080 Super.
Reminds me of movie PLATFORM..
I did the same thing with my ryzen system now I have a home media pc. My little girl has a old "kid gaming rig" .
Thank you for this enlightening video, it is really appreciated. I am a 68 year old retiree/gamer (for over 20 years) who does have a tight budget and it has been almost 15 years since I “built” (I specked it out and had it built) a computer (the computer I have now was a store bought, about 5 years) and I sorta dropped out of keeping up my knowledge up to date. I am trying to get back into it. After this I will wait as my current store bought is playing Battlefield 1, 4, & 5 and Titianfall well enough. Keep up the good work, not everybody has a big budget.
Still rocking my 3770k build I did back in 2013 when I first found your channel. Since then, I've upgraded the GPU and added an aio when I decided to overclock. Currently gathering parts for a new build, but for being 8+ years old this pc still does everything I need it to.
Most games are designed to run on a wide range of hardware.
I like to upgrade every 5 years or so. GPU first, then everything else the next year. Usually works out well. Also gives you time to save up for a full upgrade.
Just upgraded from my 3770k today because my GTX 780 broke down and stopped working. For anything but new games it wasnt terrible still lol.
I was still amazed how much my 3770 could do with an ssd. And Nvidia 1650
Came for some PC obselete guide, stayed for the life lesson
Me looking at my vega 64:
My blower style vega 64: *screaming during any game played at 1440p*
Me: “I’m not done abusing you”
Me looking at my modded to death vega 56 : "400 watts are not enough"
Hehe yep
My I5-2500 and 980ti go full throttle for minesweeper. I upgraded.
r9 390 here - still running @ 90fps on medium quality with 2018 games.
im in exactly the same boat... would I even be able to tell a game is running at 4k? nahhhh. Do I want a 3080/6800XT ... yehhhh
“It didn’t become slower just because something new came out”
*Meanwhile at Apple*
😂
Nuh it's mostly because of time
@Klausbärbel Fömm Yes, but apple did have a reputation for slowing older models down so consumers would buy newer models. They don't do this now because of the potential lawsuit they had on their hands but there are still people who don't think apple has changed.
No apple would never do anything like that........ I mean it's not like they would ever try to trick people into buying their new product (insert eye roll) lol
@@arcticscissors3792 That was purely with their phones/tabs, that wasn't MacOS. My 2011 MacMini is just as fast as it's ever been, even on Catalina.
I want to see a video that diagnoses computer components in the perspective of finding out which component is the current bottle neck, as well as looking at software efficiencies that can be done.
My rig is 2 years old, R5 2600 and RX 580. It's my first build and I am very proud of it. Sometimes I stare at it in disbelief.
It's as snappy as it was on day 1. Does all my work smoothly and runs all my games at 60 fps or more
Can't be happier :D considering keeping it for at least 3 more years. Maybe more if I didn't feel the NEED to upgrade.
Thanks for the video Jay :-)
Same setup and built at the same time I still love it
Same parts, same years here too. I watch all this vids and think “man I want to upgrade” but it is doing so fine right now, I have to be strong
Exact same specs here ... Wanted to buy a zen 3 chip but settled for OCing the 2600 instead. Am very tempted by one of the new GPUs though, the RX 580 while great value doesn't punch that hard anymore
I have a 2600x and had an RX 580 that I upgraded to a 2060 Super and 144hz panel instead of 60hz. I was going to get a 5700/xt but didn't feel like waiting a month or more for more stock to be in.
Same CPU but with RX 5700XT. Nice 1440p 60 FPS and will hold for 1080p for the next generation.
"Just minimize the video" then does the sponsor spot... I'm sure they are happy with that one Jay 🤣
I was literally thinking the same thing 😂
Going for that subliminal messaging
lol thats what i did, i thought it was gonna be one of his self sponsored spots
I actually have the AF version of that case I’m using for my first build
Lol
Jay: "Is your PC now obsolete?"
Me: _Nervously glances at my Dell prebuilt from 2003 with a Pentium 4 and an ATI Rage_
How is that 1 core cpu running youtube?
Edit: my uncle has a pentium 4 541 pc, asked me to upgrade it. Found out it can't even run youtube properly, so i just placed a core 2 quad in there and now its waay better.
Tldr: upgrade it to a quad, or duo at the very least
Well.. Uhhh... does it do what you need it to do?
Just tell em you had rage mode before it was cool 😂
@@e2rqey Ha! Ha! good one
@@williamaxelcuangdinata My E7500 2.93GHz duo can only run 480p lmao
I so agree with you. I build my own computer and I love it since it does what I want.
Queue the terminator scene: "Old. Not obsolete."
Maybe something positive did come out of that movie
Hey i get it cause my pc is npt obsolete just like the terminator was not obsolete like he said in that terrible movie they killed jon connor in
Quote*
@@LuKaS2oo9 Cue*
@@CesarAMAD If you cant see anything good about the movie or franchise youre either playing dumb or dumb. Both of which still equal dumb. ;)
Yeah I'm the same, I've only upgraded when it doesn't meet the min req's for the games I like to play. I got almost 10yrs out of my last PC lol.
"You have choice in 2020."
Scalpers and bots: Allow me to introduce myself.
I'm a man of wealth and taste
@@caldie4338 I definitely guessed their name.
"Is your PC now Obsolete?"
It has been for over 10 years now. But my Phenom II X4 925 is still going strong.
Mine sadly died in February this year (MB failure)
Friend was upgrading his entire Intel rig, so he sold me that for £《200 (i7 5820k)
Then I upgraded my faithful R9 270 gpu to a 2060S due to the hdmi port playing up :(
Like you, had the PC (less gpu) for 10+ years.
Not a mad PC gamer, but now ive brought a Quest vr headset for the family, glad the new rig has enough umpf to do the pcvr thing.
Wow 10 years
My 965 is still going strong sfter 10 years running at 4GHz
Phenom II X4 955 also going strong, my only issue is with the graphics card, and then mainly because a game tricked me into updating drivers. Although, my HD5770 is noticeably lacking, so I was eyeing an upgrade before it started crashing. Something like 1650 super or 1070, but I think I'll wait until early next year.
I had a 965 for several years, not quite ten, but maybe six years. It did me right.
"Is your PC obsolete?"
Looks at my i7 920 and gtx 960 with 12 gigs of ram on win 7
looks at my bank
Nah im good
The I7 920 is still awesome
@@SJJKH-x2p Nah man. It's kinda beginning to show its age tbh. Have to turn settings down for most modern games at 1080p, esp those limited by cpu, like Assassins creed etc..
Mine still rocking gt 730 hahahah
Felt the same about my 970
Okay, real talk, You need to do whatever you can to get off Windows 7.
If you can't afford windows 10. I advise you *NOT* to search for "HWIDGEN_KMS38_key"
*DO NOT* make sure it's the hkg_k.7z
And most of all, under any circumstance, *DO NOT* use the password of "s1ave77.hwid.gui"
*Do not run as admin offline either*
IDK what else to tell you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just hoping that I'll be able to upgrade my 6 years old GTX970 which I had to reuse in my new build to anything somewhat recent and within economic range, SOON!
I did the same with a 960. Upgraded from a FX 8350 to a Ryzen 5600X. Most of my games are cpu hogs so they run soooo much better.
Do I need to upgrade my computer? Nope.
Do I still want to upgrade every time something new comes out. Yep.
🤷♂️
I'm 100% confident, that the car scene and PC builders are guilty of this 🤦♂️
Cars are more and more like PCs on wheels, so... ^^
@@ZeHoSmusician As someone that is into both. I can attest that sadly this is the truth
Everything in life. A cinephile with this projector or a audiophile with this stereo or a basshead with these subs instead of those. Consoles. TVs etc...
@@iiSup3rior audiophiles maybe less so, depending on how they approach their hobby. You can get amazing sound quality with 40 years old used hardware for a couple hundred bucks . Try doing that with cars or computers. Of course you could also spend the price of a brand new Audi A3 on new Headphones and Amps every year...
The car scene and the pc scene are basically the same 😂😂 i got shit for my inpreza outback. But at the end of the day i loved that car more than anything. Same thing as i get shit for having a ryzen 5 1600 CPU. But i love it. I doo need faster ram thi cause if the infinity fabric
Literally just upgraded my i7 4770k running on a Z37 HD3 mobo.
Bought it in late 2013, and the only upgrade since has been replacing the 780gtx with a 1070gtx in 2019.
It still runs everything I play.
Only reason I'm upgrading is I word from home now and it's on 16 hours a day, and I want it to have a long retirement as my daughters PC.
It performs a heap better than people expect.
literally just built this thing a few months ago and it goes super hard. I can play any game at ultra settings with an rtx 2070 super. you’ll be fine
invest in a 1440p monitor
@@SkyoffRunes Shoulda got a 1080ti
me too i have a RTX 2070 FE Super and dont plan on a upgrade til RTX 3070 is more available and such only reason i will upgrade is when i upgrade my mobo and get the new Alderlake cpu and the new DDR5 mid 2021 but at the moment i am running everything fine at the highest settings in games mostly new 1440p 100-200FPS , but i have been using my mobo and cpu since 2014 with intel X5690 and no issues lmao so ive had time too save and i am sure my new platform will be stable and last for years again ..
i've got a 980 ti...
@@SkyoffRunes funny enough you fit into what Jay is saying in this video 🤣. It fits his criteria not yours.
"When should you upgrade your pc?"
When your wallet allows it ¬¬
this man is speaking the true
@deezomaxima A 2700x/2060 PC is a great pc for the price. One of the best value pc's you can get
TONGUE KISSING ANIME GIRLS
@deezomaxima I just got the 2060 Super lol, I can run everything on ultra. The hardware we have today far exceeds the quality of games being released. I doubt we will be needing an upgrade any time soon.
Which they dont
I've been running a 1060 for 5 years now and still runs great. Probably going to hold off on upgrading for a couple years when it becomes more obsolete.
It won’t become obsolete until 2030 most likely for the 10 20 and 30 series cards since they are so good they can run any game at 60+ fps as long as you have optimized settings
3 gig or 6 gig 1060? 6 gig I'm assuming?
@@BigDrewski1000 I'm having 1060 6 gig and works like a charm, blasting in 1080 very high and med-high in 1440, not a 4k card, I wish to upgrade but with the GPU prices i might as well keep it for now, I can play all modern titles with ease.
@@texcxborn I built myself a new PC a year ago because I pretty much HAD to. Lol. The PC I had had an I-7 2600, 16gb of 1600 ddr3 and a 750Ti. For everyday computing, it was great. And if I did only that I'd still be running on it cuz it rains great still. Games however...yea...I'll let the specs speak for themselves there. Lmao. New PC has a Ryzen 5 3600, 32gb of 3200mhz ram and a 1660. Still not "top of the line" but damn if it ain't amazing.
i still have my 1660ti from release and it’s running great
Jay: "Is your PC obsolete?"
Nope, just well-seasoned...
Im currently on the 7800 series of AMD graphic cards, so im way ahead of most people. Take that RTX 3090 owners
@@jorn4433 hd 7870 lol
Thank you Jay, I have a laptop 1050 and have enjoyed using it for years, and running integrated graphics before that, I'll be ready to upgrade when the times right and not out of peer pressure.
same with music. like those comments "Who's still listening to this in 2020?!?!"
bruh the song came out last year, are you a goldfish?
True!
Sadly, it's the same with many other things.
Only 200 iq big brain boys like me listen to music from the 1600s like a cultured gentleman.
(I don't...)
I will now insult everyone i know by asking them if they're a goldfish.
@L0N3SAB3R read the original comment again
"is your pc obsolete?"
"well the vendor says they've shipped it already, so i guess so, yea?"
lol
When my friend's cellphone has as much RAM as my Desktop
Well my mom phone has 6gb ram and mine is 4gb ram. Can relate.
@@nezunish-898 mine has 8 gigs of RAM
well, ram is cheaper , and doesnt equal speed.
but sure! its always impressive
that shows bloat ona PHONE
haha
go get gmail's phone plugin and take your lowest plan
make calls free anywhere out
and if in usa you can get a in number
Except phone RAM is different to PC RAM. My phone has more RAM than most of my computers but it doesn't mean it's as powerful as them. Different architectures, different use cases.
I built my first computer earlier this year having no clue what I was doing. I bought what I could afford that was in stock and I'm proud of what I was able to put together not because I have the most high end gamer rig money can buy but because I jumped into the deep end of a knowledge base I was not comfortable with and learned how to do something new. I was able to take that knowledge and do a fresh install on an old Dell pc I used in my workshop for cnc projects that I had forgotten the password for and had for 2 years been a pile of e waste in the garage and is now back to running. If my new rig ever can't run what I need it to run I can upgrade it but I'm happy with what I have
This was the gamer’s version of therapy.
Jay: "Is your PC obsolete?"
Me: Stares at my RX 480 nah bb you're good enough for me.
Rx 480 ouch at least get a 580
My 570 handles all games I play and I can get hover frames than my freind with a 2080ti
Still running an RX480 too. It actually still shocks me how well it still runs things
I got a 580 after my 970 died and its all ive ever needed
I'm running RX 580 and it's great. Running a Kaby Lake Pentium. Honestly I like Intel just because of the land grid array vs AMD pin grid. But my new computer will be AMD. With the RX 580, because it still performs great. Looking to Black Friday and Boxing Day for new hardware.
I realise this video is at least a couple of years old, but the message remains. The model numbers and specs change, but the story and advice are constant.
It reminds me of the Horsepower Wars of the 60s and 70s. Cars have always triggered competitiveness in their owners, but those decades, I think, peaked out the rivalries, with FORU divisions at GM (two of which have disappeared since) fought Ford, Chrysler, and American Motors and one another for bragging rights at drag strips - and public thouroughfares - all oveer North America.
To a degree, designing extra performance in products benefits customers as well as the sales of the manufacturers, but, as you pointed out, advances are sometimes miniscule and even negatively effective.
I personally am trying the ols hotrodder's trick, combining old parts from several sources, to try to squeeze more performance out of a beater.
When I feel like upgrading? Personally I’ve kept a policy with myself that if a cpu can surpass my GPU in graphical computing it’s the time to upgrade to the next __50 GPU!
I think I did a pretty decent job on my PC build especially for a disable kid, it's not the latest spec but it holds up pretty well and I'm proud of it.
the fuck does you being disabled have to do with building PC? You just have to bring that up don't you?
@@SanctusBacchus Perhaps his disability impedes his ability to build his PC as well as an able bodied person. You don't know the dude nor the nature of his disability. It wouldn't have hurt you to not comment that. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. In what way does his comment have a personal affect on you? Surely you could have just ignored the post and moved on like the better man... Come on, be better than that.
Would love to hear the stats on it and what you liked most about putting youre own rig together
@@PryvatCyan87 I second this remark. Let's have stats and how ya like it!
@@SanctusBacchus so hows it held up for you?
Jay - "It did not suddenly become slower because something newer came out"
Apple - "Hold my phone"
Hold my brick*
Devin Sandergaard: Hold my copy&paste-button...
actually if it's AMD the older gpus become FASTER when new gpus come out lol
when jay says "your a proud AMD owner" i felt like he was speaking to me he named my stuff and said exactly how long ive had it and the crap people talk to me. jay you are spot on
To be fair the fx 8350 is a hot sack of trash
@@jay-5061 compared to other cpu yes but it games 60 fps no problem
Just pulled the trigger and ordered parts to upgrade my FX-8350 today to a 3600x. When Jay started talking about that, it felt like he was talking directly to me. Gotten through some tough times with that machine. Time to start new. I still have my 290x in the system for now though until I can get my hands on a newer card.
My FX8350 is time to go to my smaller brother to and I m planning on upgrading to a 5600X piece by piece. That b*stard with a RX580 is still going 60fps high on some new games.
When I got back into PC gaming my brother let me pick parts from his old (dead) pc to use in my own build.
Thank god the FX8100 was dead and I went with a Ryzen 7 (I trusted my gut that AMD were on to something).
Used the hell out of his r7 370 though :)
Thanks for this. I'm on my first build. I'm not looking to get expensive equipment. I'm not looking for a 3080 or a $1,000 or $2,000 graphics card. I'm getting what works for me
You just should have fun with it.
I'm running a 2700 and a 1060, I develop games every day with no problems, so it certainly isn't obsolete. As long as your pc does what you want it to, then it is great.
When upgrading, get yourself a 3070. Also how much ram? I assume a lot?
That's basically the specs I'm planning to upgrade to at the moment (although the exact graphics card depends what I can find a bargain on).
Hoping people getting the new stuff will push down the prices of the couple year old stuff
"Is ur PC obsolete now?"
*me with 13 year old computer* :
NO IT'S NOT *crying*
Just imagine how fast it will feel when you finally get to upgrade.
My computer so old Blizzard said it won't be supported playing World of Warcraft. Warcraft doesn't need high specs.
@@MrVecau WoW actually does. The engine is now so overloaded, that you need a really good cpu for decent fps
I feel that, bro...
Was in the same boat until last year, I hope you can get an upgrade soon :)
I usually upgrade between 6-7 years. Reason is because tech seems to change dramatically about 5 years, but always hang on to your tech for a while until the reviews are in.
Jay: 'Is your pc obsolete?'
Me: Nah... i can still play Duke Nukem 2 and Commander Keen just fine.
That's just describes the word obsolete perfectly! A build from 25+ years ago.
@@Gurang000 It's only obsolete if Sarkli Gaming thinks it is. Your opinion is just that. Not a fact, just opinion. There is in fact a group of people that still run MSDOS and Windows 98 games because it's retro and NEED older hardware to do so. So, "Obsolete" is subjective at best.
@@mmztimelord any pc from a 15 years plus+ age is def obsolete
@@mmztimelord i still have my AMD Thunderbird 666mhz machine sitting around, im planning to fix up and run as a retro games machine:) Also have a 19" DEC CRT monitor that i got someone to mod to work with normal computers. cost me like 500$ for the mod, 15years ago... those monitors was expensive as shit back in the days. Obsolete for you maybe, but not for me:)
My favourite processor. ☺
I usually follow the advice of noted computer scientist Weird al Yankovich
"You say you've had your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique"
Title: "Is your PC now obsolete?"
Me: Looking at my FX-8350. "What do you think?"
yup.. when my computer is his example of "don't put a new graphics card in it"... FX-8350 with a Crosshair MB... lol Of course, I desperately need a new video card for it since i'm running SLI'd Nvidia 950s... the 5600x with a new 6000 series GPU sounds real good right about now... and if that lasts as long as this 8350 then I'm all good.
It depens, for what you are using it and if it is obsolete to you 😁👍
@@Krioni15 lol a friend is using my old x470 MOBO with a R5 3600 and my 2 old GTX 760's 😂😂
he mainly uses it for emulation so it's perfectly fine for him.
Me: looking at my Phenom II X4 976 and Nvidia GT-740 and 12GB of DDR3 ram.
Hmmm me looking at my fx-6100 😅
For anyone reading this one year post-upload, I was considering upgrading my AMD system from a 1800x to a 5xxx series cpu and from an R9 390 to a 6xxx range gpu. Looking at what I needed to do to have this new cpu supported on my old motherboard, I found out getting my motherboard up to speed on compatibility by updating BIOS already improved my performance drastically, even visually, to an extent that I'm now considering not upgrading my cpu at all for now and am now seeing if I can do the same magic as to not needing a new gpu either. I may get a new case first, as I've noticed my old build struggles more over high temperatures than anything.
The reason your pc might be slow is likely not the hardware by itself.
Hey man, so thought I’d ask as I’m watching this vid due to a problem that sounds a lot similar to what you were experiencing, but I have a question, so this time last week, my pc was completely fine, I’d 4 years old but still runs smooth, I have an intel i5 7600k, 16gb ram and a gtx 1070 8gb, it was great, but I downloaded a windows update 2 days ago and now it’s ruined, cpu constantly runs at 100% or close to that, I checked task manager and it’s showing that apparently I only have 1 cpu core, it’s not, it’s a 4 core. I’ve read about it and apparently sometimes when you do an update you MoBo can bug out or it can cause you’re pc to think it only has 1 core, so to fix it you should try updating bios, but I’ve tried to look up how to do that and can’t figure it out, would you be able to help me out please?
Sorry about the long message, just for extra info as well, I chose the parts myself and built it myself too, I was only 16 at the time so looking back I’m not sure if I picked the best parts for my budget but I did do a lot of research at the time, and it worked really well until last week, it just bugs out and won’t even open my games anymore 😭 I don’t know how to fix my baby
@@mcpcnoob106 BIOS updates differ depending on the manufacturer of your motherboard. Best to check on their website for exact how-to's, you'll probably find a link on the page where you have to download the files anyway.
@@indus3270 okay man thankyou
I was so mad when my R9 went into legacy driver support this year. I understand why, it's pretty old, but it's still alive and going strong (which I assume yours is too). I'm not upgrading it until it dies
2080 ti is now obsolete for my online classes. I tell my dad
Wat ze fock
Outstanding move
@@diarce r/iusereddit
@@diarce Haha look at me I use reddit yeah you aren't cool
I went from an i5 6400, 1050 2GB, 8GB DDR3 setup in an Acer case to a 5600X, 3070 OC, 32GB DDR4 art piece. My original PC was more than great at playing the games I grew up with, but with the new console generation not being appealing at all, and my newfound interest in VR due to Half-Life Alyx, I have to admit that there was a part of me that felt like I would have been settling for "weak" hardware if I had gotten a 3600X, 16GB, and some GPU barely predating RTX when I nearly gave up on getting the new stuff due to shortages. I blame wanting the absolute perfect experience with Half-Life Alyx after waiting over a decade for a new entry; it drove me insane trying to find those parts to the point where when I finally obtained the GPU after initially wanting a 3060 Ti instead, I felt as if a 3070 wasn't even going to be able to handle it properly despite it being more powerful than one of the best cards at the time of the game's release. It took more rewiring than expected to get me to calm down from that mindset.
It's fun to get caught up in the hype of the new stuff, but don't let it hold you back from continuing to enjoy the build that gave you happiness in the time that you've had it.
+Respect
"Is your PC now Obsolete"
Me using phenom II mounted to a piece of wood heating my room: >.>
I'm very tempted to do this with a Pentium 4 just for giggles.
Do it mat
@@rainbowbunchie8237 make your dream reality 👏
In 2011 I built a system with a 4-core phenom AMD processor and 16gb of ddr3 ram and it still holds its ground today.
My advice is to build a computer with the future in mind and go as long a you reasonably can without upgrading. After 11 years I decided to upgrade with the same philosophy I used building my last one and I am hoping to get 10 years out of my new system.
Jay: "it didn't become slower just because a new product came out"
My brain: "because it's not an iPhone"
Idiot.
@@oxfordsparky theres the first apple fanboy
Lmao
@Mi Shell ok boomer
@Mi Shell nope is a straight lie
JAY!!!!
You know what does make your face pleasant to look at? It's truth.
New level of respect after this video. And I do have a decent rig. However, my old rig was built from and I kept upgrading from other people's literal trash. I climbed in the dumpster over and over again every time I saw anything tech in there. Now, that I have the money, I'm still only buying what makes a real difference and meets my favorite game requirements. My tower is one I actually did buy 20 years ago. And it fits all my stuff nice and snug and breathes wonderfully.
Good show, my friend.
Most people: happy with their pc performances: don't even upgrade, you're wasting money.
The other people: doesn't matter, take my money!
I can run my Monster Hunter World on all low settings, with high textures and antrioscopics 16x, 4K, 60fps on my GTX 1070 , still holds up well :)
Well..at some point you will upgrade. Why would I not upgrade my GPU and sell my older one? It is not like I am losing the money I put into the prior card. If there was a time you have to upgrade, now is the time. Disregard the supply and demand but the value of performance you get, especially with Nvidia..
The only reason I upgraded, way back in March of 2020, to an AMD 3600 with 2TB NVMe (Intel 660p) on a Tomahawk Max 450 is that my 3rd gen Core i5 was getting a wee unstable and all these smart RUclipsrs were predicting a major parts availability nightmare after May. Wife actually MADE me upgrade because she thoughts we'd be working from home a lot. Other people are smart. I like my reasonably priced machine very well. Just running an RX 5600 XT for video. Works great and I love it! Jayz is right... it's the backend support!
I have a ryzen 3 2200g paired with a rx 5500xt 4gb having 2 monitors my main monitor is a 1080p UW secondary monitor for utility (discord, anime,youtubee you get the idea) i definetly wanna get a ryzen 7 3700x
I was saying this with my 1660 super but I got money for my brithday and I Bought a 3070 and I don't agree with your saying. I think it's not a waste if you are a gamer or somthing like that.I'm not saying that I'm a gamer but I enjoy the smoothness very very much
"is your pc obselete"
Me with i3 2100 and gt 710 with 4 gigs ddr3 1333 ram
"hmmmm, I don't think so"
yes you should lol
poor me with Intel quad core Q9650 8Gb ddr3
and found Pc with AMD A10-6800K 8Gb ddr3...
at least it's not running under 2 Ghz :-)
Impressive! I thought I was old-school with my i3-4330 and 750ti
Intel Pentium R4 single core
Motherboard locked to run only windows xp (windows 7 crashed every time it bootsup)
2gb DDR2
Ati integrated GPU to mb
Just 16yrs old pc and still works
It's not that bad... Is it?
@Stane Less That's too new. I'm currently looking something in Pentium 2/3 series. Just because.
"Imagine you own an 8350 and your ddr3 ram, it's your system and you've held onto it for like 8 years"
....Why call me out like this, Jay?
I thought it was a dig at G/N Steve 😁
I feel you bro, I had basically the same build for the longest time until my cores started dying
My old system still works. AMD phenom ii x6 and hd6970 2gb both on liquid 😂
I'd still be rockin the 8350 as well if i didn't have video to render. (it's in the loft/attic and it'll stay there incase i ever want to try ln2 overclocking or something)
I spent years when i was younger reading PC Magazines and looking at rig's with cathode ray tubes and wishing i could afford the latest ATI video card.
I could still play the games i had so it wasn't ever a problem.
A few months ago my nephew asked me for a PC to game on so i managed to find him a Core2Duo and HD7950 for free.
He plays Fortnight at 720p low settings.
He's 9 and knows nothing about settings so it's fine and he's happy with it. (if he complains i might have to give him the 8350 but it's a gpu he needs the most)
My point is it's not all about the new new.
@@shaneeslick I thought of steve to. His live steams make me laugh because people always ask him if it's time to upgrade there nearly new hardware and his answer is always the same.
Intel I7 8700k, EVGA 1070TI FTW I built 3 1/2 years ago. No need to upgrade anytime soon, but its still fun to look at whats out here.
"Hear that buddy, you're not obsolete" I say as I slap the top cover of my rig containing a 4670k and SLI 970s
a classic common sense build right there.
Me with Intel HD
I have the same, just one GPU though, and was looking at building a whole new PC... Man I don't even know lol.
@@Maximumderpify I have no gpu
@@stellatecar7634 its the gpu in ur heart that counts c;
Jay "I would never put 3080 on an FX 8350."
Me: help, I've been shot.
To be fair, when I upgraded an FX 8320 with a HD 7950 to the 8gb 480 about half of my games saw absolutely no performance increase because they were very cpu bound games.
I remember my fx 6300. I also remember the cpu temps it reached when I changed from a gtx 960 to an rx 590.
Tell me you're joking.
@@tubefile100 lol It really did. Most titles that saw little to no performance gains were simulation or racing related. My brother had a stock 2700k with a 480 in it and all the games that were stuttery/low fps/bad performance on my FX system were smooth and playable on his. I had my 8320 overclocked to 4.5ghz as well lol.
@@findRED My i7-4700MQ mobile processor running between 3.2 and 3.4GHz and only using between 30-40watts is faster than every single FX chip ever made. Even the 4700MQ at base clock (2.4GHz) is still faster, that's how crappy Bulldozer and Piledriver are...
This mobile i7 is still a beast, if i force the turbo at 3.4GHz all core for a long period of time, it beats the 2600K in singlethread and multithread by a good margin.
"Is your PC obsolete?"
Wait so I get to have a pc?
A man of culture i see
You won the internet with this comment.
Same dude
Just now updating my first build....from 2008...with its AMD phenom and DDR2. Seriously. With decent parts and a little luck, you too can have a computer last 14 years 😉
"only a sith deals in absolutes"
The funny thing is that is an absolute statement
100% true!
_Only a piece of shit deals in obsoletes._
@@icecold9511 Hot damn...that's right
Only a Sinth would say that
Jay: “If you’re on any AMD gpu you should upgrade...”
Me looking at my RX 5600XT I got a couple months ago: “Shhhh noo he wasn’t talking about you....”
Heh... that's me too. All the games I play are more than fast enuf, but the new RX models do have me drooling. Maybe next year. =) Maybe in six years.
Bro, RX 570 here and it is still more than enough for what I play. 110% satisfaction.
Me thinking on getting a 5700XT in a blackfrieday deal ....i mean it will still be a giant step from gtx 970 to 5700XT and maybe for roughtly 300$ if i get lucky
@@DerZerberos 5700XT is a terrific card, for 300$ the value for money is great!
I'm planning to get 5600xt tho. Either that or 5700xt depends on how much I can save. Then again, next year gpu will be plenty to choose with (hopefully) stock issues will have been solved
Watching this a year later because its finally “my time” to upgrade. The first PC i built for myself (with a few good friends’ help) is a Ryzen 1700x, Asus ROG STRIX board, Corsair Vengeance 2666 ram (16gb), EVGA 1080 FTW2, Corsair H100i 240mm liquid cooler, Corsair 850w gold rated psu, inside a Corsair Obsidian 570x case. At the time, 5ish years ago, this was a pretty big boy system that mercilessly and efficiently donkey-punched anything that came its way. Its starting to show its age now, though. Currently in the component-ordering phase of my second build, which will be a Ryzen 5800x, 3080 10gb, Asus board, and much more ram and storage. This one will also be getting a 360mm top-mount radiator and a new Corsair iCue 5000x case. Looking forward to feeling the leap in technology! Great video and great explanation.
I am a new comer to the pc build "community" and started following you only this year to get at least some knowledge of how to do stuff since I am going to spend basically a month worth of income to build my first system. Before I used to game on consoles and on my laptop and when I started looking at build suggestions a lot of people were always afraid of losing fps or not be able to play on ultra.. I mean I get it but I've played at 30 fps and medium settings basically all my life and still enjoyed the crap out of my games so I just really appreciate that you've put this video out. Anyway now I'll just wait december to see my Ryzen 5600X arrive and maybe, just maybe, a Radeon 6800XT. Keep up the great work! Love from Italy
I love how you spent the entire comment talking about how you won't mind playing at 30fps medium, and then finished with saying you're getting what's essentially the highest end gaming specs that an "average" consumer would ever consider getting lmao
Like, if you have a monitor to match, that setup will run ANYTHING at crazy high resolutions or framerates
I get the sentiment behind your comment though, I'm just poking fun at it haha
@@RobinNashVideos highest? definitely not. considering the 8c consoles id definitely get 8+ core PC if i needed a new system. no doubt itll be plenty fast of course, but highEST is where you went wrong
@@bradhaines3142 i don't think 8c matter just because of the consoles. R5 5600x is just fine. The computing matters in case of CPU.
GPU wise for higher resolutions/frames, higher end GPUs may be required.
I purchased R7 3700x because of the consoles. But I play at 1080p. So an RTX 2060 is enough for me.
The consoles don't utilise entire 8c for gaming. So a 6c fast CPU like i5 10600k or a R5 5600x is more than great. Instead invest the money in higher end GPU.
@@bradhaines3142 You're absolutely right, but I was reffering mainly to gaming. If you're trying to get a high end system that is meant ONLY for gaming and nothing else, then I'd say the average consumer is just going to get a 5600x. The difference for gaming between that and the other CPUs is pretty minimal for the most part, it's like the difference between getting a 3080 and 3090. Sure, it's significant, but not significant enough to warrant the price uplift for someone who isn't a pro e-sports player, in my opinion.
@@RobinNashVideos no a 3080 to a 3090 is only around 10% lol, no significant at all. the difference matters more in what games are played. some hardly care about how many cores you have and only want clockspeed, some will use everything you can throw at it, i actually own one i can decide in game settings how many threads it can use. so it depends on a lot of things, as always
brain:no u dont
wallet:no u dont
pc enthusiast hart: TAKE MY KIDNEY
@xxpyroxx75 so he might just about afford a 3070 then. 😆
Each finger is worth 30k, might take a few off to pay bills and put down a down payment on a home
@xxpyroxx75 u mean 20 pieces of 3090?
I upgraded my gtx 660 for a gtx 1660. One whole digit more!
660 gang, my first GPU
You know a 1030 is more powerful 👀
@@deathsomenow2196 Try telling that to my 1660S-powered rig; it's one of only 6 computers on the planet that can run CP2077 without issues. :P
Kudos
Yeah, I swapped out my 660Ti for a 1660 last year, stayed capable and reliable for many years!
I'm putting my first pc together and hearing Jay talk about "outdated" hardware from a year ago isn't that old reminded me that I'm getting a 9600k. While it's not bad I'm pretty sure it was the bare minimum I could get away with sooooo...
My Core 2 Duo: Please Let Me Die
Me: I Know
Me too. Core 2 duo + 4gb DDR3 ram. Integrated graphics
lol I had a PC in my basement with core 2 duo and gtx 460... I just upgraded it with new processor, motherboard, ram, and gpu.
I love the core 2 duos and also quads, we got old school pcs from my school and modded them to hell with tape to achieve 4 ghz on a crappy Fujitsu mini itx mobo (it's not mini itx or any standard from factor but it's really small) and on 2 boards the vrms just blowed up. But the rest worked fine. That's so fun for real, if you upgrade and don't find a use for your old pc, try that. (don't touch the board if the pc is on and your doing tape bsel overclocking) and also please don't die
Hey at least you aren’t rocking integrated graphics...
My ex girlfriend upgraded me be before I upgraded my PC.
Sad times
at least you know who was loyal
Oof 😣
Lol
Pc gathered dust but she didn't
Still proud of my 2011 build but I think it is indeed time to upgrade.
"Is your PC now Obsolete?"
*look at my i5 650*
nah...
*looking at my Athlon 860k*
Uhm... nnnnah?
My i5 750 became obsolete like 2 years ago, when MB died and I realized that replacing it with something from eBay (or my local equivalent) will cost me MORE than a new current-gen one... And so here I am, with another i5, but 7 generations younger (8400). And I hope that 8400 will last me another 3-4 years (at least).
I have two Q9550s still running as Unix based NAS servers. They are not suitable for gaming anymore, but more than adequate as dedicated file servers.
@@Trolej1 last year i did a minor upgrade from my 3 year old i5-6600k to an i7-6700 because i was slightly cpu-bottlenecked, and i'm hoping it'll now last me another couple years. Its similar in performance to yours, and i wouldn't call them obsolete just yet.
Looking at my i1 110
i've revisit this all i can say this thank you jayz you gave me a financial peace in me. my ryzen 7 2700x is still going strong. i'm looking forward upgrading my rx590 very very soon next year after i do my taxes
"I'm super happy that you have choice in 2020."
You funny, Jay, very funny
He did the funny
Jay: "Is your PC obsolete?"
Me: stares at my Lga 775 mobo, Intel Core 2 Quad, GTS 250, and 4gb of ddr2 ram
Back in the days - this system did cost fortune to buy.
Bro thats was a dream build back in the day
Dang , my work threw 3 those away one day and I swiped them, still have them in the basement caseless
Just moved away from that lga. Got the 1151v2. Happier that it is running facebook.🤣
Dang, nice build
"You guys should really minimize this", *me putting Jay in fullscreen on my left monitor*
*Laughs in ps4*
Me: *Puts him on a large 4K TV*
@@LennyGaming lmao I also put him on a TV (that I use as my 3rd monitor)
First off thanks Jay for making this video. It made me feel good about my "old system". I've been slowly getting parts on sales and letting the amd ecosystem mature. My "old system" is
AMD FX-8340 with cooler master 212 Evo cooler
Corsair DDR3 1600 16gb
Gigabyte 970a-D3P
XFX R9 380x 4gb
Cooler master scout case
Samsung Evo 850 250gb for windows 10
Everything works it plays my games with a little tweaking. I'm now just starting to see some issues but overall it's been a great system. An I'm now starting to get parts for a new Ryzen build. Gonna hold out on a GPU until prices become reasonable again.
Rocking a 6600K with a GTX 1660S here and I want to upgrade, but like Jay says I really don't need to, and I prefer to keep both of my kidneys. Only playing 1080 ultrawide and it handles almost everything at high. and everything at medium details for 75fps so that'll do me. Honestly my next build is likely to be an XBox....
I'm currently running since 2015 - AMD FX 8370 /w 212 Evo, Hyper X DDR3 16G, MSI 970A SLI Krait AM3+ (Jay reviewed in 2015), Zotac 980Ti Amp Extreme, Fractal Define case. Im thinking of upgrading to a Ryzen 5600 or X and use my 980Ti since it can still perform.