EU: Ok Italy how about you address the mafia problem? Italy: *introduces harsher sentences for them* EU: No wait that's against their human rights not like that
@@salvo5108 The EU is great,the politicians in it are the scum of the earth like every other politician on this planet unfortunately. That's one thing that all countries have in common sadly.
@Silent 93x good observation, most common folk in Italy think Carabinieri are stupid, still to this day...on the other hand, G.I.S. (the Carabinieri special forces) win first place regularly at international special forces competitions, against the likes of Navy SEALs, GROM, SAS and such...so I wouldn't exactly wanna get on their nerves
@Silent 93x my dad used to be friend with a NOCS officer (the Polizia special forces) and my mom with a chopper pilot from the Polizia as well, so I met/talked with those kind of people as well...if the world had more people like that we sure wouldn't be worse for wear
For the first time I see a fairly good and concrete depiction of the Mafia problem made by a foreigner. I am glad you mentioned the history of it and the concrete danger it brings. Outside of Italy, especially in northern Europe the mafia concept is so far to be understood, yet mafia is very present there in money laundry and drug trafficking which has main markets in countries like UK, Nederlands, Belgium, Germany, etc. In my humble opinion, in order to beat Mafia is necessary to cut the connection between the foreign tentacles and its motherland, take serious steps towards drugs regulation and legalization, main source of income of cartels, build a serious anti mafia law system in Europe, based for example on the very advanced Italian consitution, which includes crimes that are not considered as such in other EU and world countries
@@RoScFan for example the crime of mafia association, which allows to process the entire group as such rather then each single member it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associazione_di_tipo_mafioso Investigation methods are also different from country to country, for example in Germany, due the history of GDR and Stasi, is way harder to use bugs to spy people under investigation, one of the most effective ways of catching mafiosi. Things like that...
Mafia in Northern Italy isn’t a distant thing. We had lots of bosses (search Felice Maniero on google) and the agromafia, which is basically southern mafias that use agriculture to do money laundering, dispose of toxic waste and get profits
@@pasticcinideliziosi1259 felice maniero was a bandit. north of Italy is a bit more colonized than the rest of Europe, still colonized (I mean by mafias)
I'm Southern Italian, and this is one of the best foreign videos I've seen on the sheer power of 'Ndràngheta" (stress on the first A) so far. Another VERY important thing to understand is that mafia bosses still managed to command from behind jailbars, giving instructions to their visiting relatives every week. The introduction of the article 41-bis in our penal code, also known as "carcere duro" (tough jail) introduced the notion that, if you were found guilty of associazione mafiosa, you could not use devices which can put you in contact with outside people. So the Italian state equipped itself with the very instrument to cut the mafiosi influence from jail AND to make them confess and bring more people to justice. Now this very measure, which is not torture but simply doesn't allow communications between mafiosi inmates and the outer world, has been called out by the European Court in Strasbourg as "lesive of some inmates' rights". 41-bis has been so far one of the best pieces of legislation to oppose the spread of mafia, and as a matter of fact should be adopted also by the other states that are beginning now to struggle with the problem themselves. Thanks from spreading the awareness!
Yeah EU has no idea what italy has to deal with, I personally believe the fight against the mafia should be treated as a (civil?) war, especially because the mafia tries to substitute the state and therefore should be fought like a foreign enemy. Houses in hotspots should be searched and port security needs to be improved, not to mention the human trafficking of prostitutes and agricultural workers needs to be stopped.
@@germanogirardelli "EU has no idea" Perhaps you have no idea. The Court in Strasbourg is the court of the Council of Europe. It has nothing to do with the EU.
@@tommasovercetti6565 no no, the video is wrong about it. Atleast from what ive seen in albanian news the group has about 100B euros and i belive them more cause more info and the fact that ndrangheta has connections with albanians.
Thanks for the video. I really wish people understood the scope and gravity of the issue. I'm Sicilian, we've been living with this constant weight on our backs, this pistol pointed at our heads for as long as we've lived. People outside Italy underestimate this issue, ignore our struggle with it and even go so far as to fetishize those criminals.
To think that only the "fascist" dictator had effectively put a stop to this is so weird to me. Maybe our current "liberal", "democratic", "progressive" leaders dont really care about the people? But wants to appear they do so using the media and other propaganda? We need true leaders again. The ones who would make the hard choices for the good of his people no matter what the world will say. Man up Italy!
@@HH-ni5hm sadly the problem is more due to "civil rights", due to that a lot of attempts that have been made have been shut down. mussolini was able to do that exactly because he didn't care about civil rights, but if a today's democratic country tries to do that EU and many other countries will stop it from happening. the main point here is that it's probably the rest of the world (in particular EU) that has to accept it and let things happen.
@@Plant_The_Otter Criminals have waived their rights already and must be treated as such. Its the weak leaders that are afraid to say this truth are the problem.
The claim that the US thought the mafia incarcerated in Italy, when they invaded during WWII, were simply political dissidents is laughable. They were well aware of what the mafia was, having experience with the American version during prohibition and actively engaged with it so as to aid in their invasion of Italy, striking deals with figures such as Lucky Luciano to gain alliances with the Sicilian mafia.
As a southern italian i have watched tons of videos on the matter to understand what foreigns think mafia is and how it works, even from big channels and professional jurnalists yet you're the first one that made me think "wow this guy did the right researches, he knows what he's talking about and knows how to explain it to someone who doesn't know anything on the subject". outstanding job, big compliments, you gained a new subscribed right away my friend
Great job on the pronunciation, you did a good job for a foreigner. A little quibble: At 3:35, you said "Cosa Nostra" means "Men of Honor", when it literally translates to something more like "Our Thing". Also, I've noticed that the subtitles are inaccurate.
Thank you :) Yeah its actually a slip up, the mafiosis call themselves 'men of honour' (uomo d'onore). The subtitles are still a bit of a work in progress, I'll make sure they're a better fit in the next video!
@@faridakalilflex Your Italian must be great, but your English grammar clearly needs a bit of work. You should say ‘actually means’, not ‘means actually.’
Correction: Americans didn't believe that Mafia people were political prisoners, they knew quite well what mafia was. In fact, they had Lucky Lucian meet with the local mafia to facilitate the Americans landing in Sicily. After the war, the mafia people who helped the Americans were nominated mayors and mps in Sicily:).
I found everything very accurate and well-made! Great informative video 👍 the only things I would add/correct are that many estimates of the economic influence of the mafias are inflated, even by Europol, because often traffics conducted by the mafia are confused or aggregated with traffics by groups the mafias collaborate with, which are very different in structure. Secondly, mafias are registering a negative trend all over the world. Both Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta, for example, have been losing numbers for a while, especially because of their apparatus of symbols and rituals, which needs a specific subcultural background which is less and less widespread. Finally, Sacra Corona Unita is not a "mafia" stricto sensu anymore, since it has lost most of that "traditional" apparatus and is composed of several small criminal groups which are substantially separate. Apart from this, great job! Keep up the good work 😁
Actually today the situation is much better. More criminal organisations are being hunted down by the state and day by day the mafia has become more and more weak through the last decades. But on the other hand the south of italy is still less developed than the centre or the north, due to this where investments lack and the state fails, those organisations thrive. As an Italian and a European I hope a better future for everyone in the continent will be built with cooperation
@@carpanis la ndrangheta si è espansa tantissimo però altre mafie tipo la Camorra e la cosa sono state sempre di più schiacciate, anche grazie a una migliore collaborazione fra pula e cittadini tipo in Sicilia che si organizzano per non pagare il pizzo. Comunque c'è molto da risolvere
@@jacopofolin6400 il fatto è che i giovani che si sentono ripetere la stessa solfa a scuola del "denunciate" "no all'omertà" o cose simili, quando saranno giovani adulti e non avranno da lavorare si rivolgeranno alla mafia comunque. E questo che piaga il sud, l'arretratezza mentale dei giovani, fossi in loro vivrei per strada piuttosto che collaborare con la mafia
Amazing job and Amazing video 😍 Fun fuct: the americans also used a lot the mafia during the invasion, beacuse they had a lot of Power in the territory, and the US army used It to infiltrate more effectivly into the south. That could do this because that had mafia bosses in America that would do the middle man for them, like Luky Luciano. This was in excange of position of local power in the south once they left. A nice film that talk about this Is "In guerra per amore" (In war for love) by Pif
Very good job man! Helping other Europeans understand how this cancer works and spreads it's necessary to fight it and hopefully defeat it. You got my sub! Love from Italy :)
@Santo Evidently everyone on this channel including yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Even though your comment shows some kind of misguided hatred toward other europeans.
@@tommasovercetti6565 That's the literal translation, but this thing of ours is how it's said in the U.S Italian mafia. At least in movies and the Sopranos.
i mean i get that we are not the greatest most reliable country in the world but it wouldn't hurt to see and hear some of the good sides of my country highlited in a video from time to time, we are still the 8th most powerful economy in the world and a big contributor to european wealth. Still a really well made video, and i really like your channel so great work!
Italy is possibly the biggest hazard to European wealth too, it has ridiculously high unsustainable debt, its bonds are rated just one level above junk, the fiscal situation of Italy is a time bomb not far from blowing
@@unknownzzz5115 Japan issues bonds in Japanese yen, in the worst case scenario, they can just print, not to mention that more than half of all the Japanese bonds are owned by the Bank of Japan, which is of course owned by the Japanese government, and the yield of those bonds are negligible, the Japanese government would have no issue paying back its debt economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/japans-debt-mountain-how-is-it-sustainable/articleshow/76298563.cms
Another fantastic video on a current history of Italian, the animation is still creative and engaging. I find your pronunciation to be very good regardless whether it is accurate or not for I am tired of very poor pronunciation from American/British speaker's and their high self opinions within Europe.
Thank you! I'm also of the opinion that the RUclips (and also broader media) landscape is dominated by the Anglo-World. Hopefully I can play a part in giving Europe and Europeans a voice :)
Most interesting one will be when EU will absorb Balkan countries like Albania, Serbia and Montenegro and their mafia structures that are way more violent and dangerous than Italian mafia. But I hope that by that time EU will already collapse and disingrate.
Great video,told by an italian. Just a thing: americans did know about mafia. Thats because mafia was already in USA , a lot of italo-american soldiers knew the people in Sicily,and Us HQ used that in order to have a tactical vantage on the battlefield
Mussolini put them in their place and abolished the Sicilian mafia and other dangerous gangs that were a threat. Unfortunately you can thank the US government/army for using known criminals as collaborators and allowing them to rebuild their criminal enterprises throughout Italy after the war ended.
Yeah, we probably did that. Maybe Italy should clean up its own yard and not collaborate with fascists and Nazis. The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a painful and Grey truth. Plus the US paid mafia to protect certain ports and shipyards during that war instead of letting that Italian blood problem turn our own citizens against us.
could you do a video on the whole one charger for all phones in EU? from the start, getting a proposed unified port in micro usb (with apple against it), to the new legislation (that i think its still not yet implemented and that apple made it look in a commercial that the idea of not having a charger in every new phone case, was actually their idea, when it was not)?
The problem, is that the mafia is still an iceberg, me know only a little part and it’s difficult to know the rest, especially after Andreotti’s death.
The Ndrangheta controlling 80% of Europe's coke trade is an outdated claim, since the European coke trade has shifted from Italy & Spain to the Netherlands and Belgium in the last decade, where other organisations are responsible for the distribution of these narcotics.
That's why there is a lot 'black,' money (cash) in Belgium especially in real estate and restaurants. Fanny thing is to be paid like that for the renovation of a house situated few streets from EU commission in Brussels.
The ports of Rotterdam and Antwerp obviously attract a lot of criminal smuggling activity. Im sure the maffia also has it's tentacles there, as do several other criminal groups.
@@dekippiesip They do, but they don't control 80% of the trade anymore. The entire European coke trade got more diversified amongst different European crime organisations. Dutch-Moroccan crime groups in the Netherlands already hold at least 1/3 of then entire trade. And Albanian groups got a fair share as well.
Whenever I think about the Mafia problem I fail to find a solution that is not the "Cesare Mori" method. Italian Mafias are cruel organizations that are not shy of killing the ones in their way and their families, so something radical is needed. At the same time, an operation of this kind reminds me so much of the kind of stuff that used to happen in totalitarian states, where the State turns against their own citizens and deports them far far away for the sake of the Utopia, with a disregard for the innocents caught in the crossfire.
You forgot to mention of the criminal co-rule under preunitary dinasties (the Neapolitan camorra, which dates back at least to mid XVIII century, was the ultimate peacekeepig force) and the tight top-bottom relationship between landlords and criminal bands. The abolition of feudal laws not only failed but backfired with landowners not only rebuing their possessionts but acquiring lands from the "Demanio" which was partially public-owned. The Restoration didn't touch this of course 1:15 Gentle remind that it was the south to give most of intellectuals supporting unification (usually exiled, jailed or "executed") and when Sardinia marched south there was a full operational (and victorious) "Southern Army" composed by local volunteers. Also, most of the former anti-banditism laws from Two-Sicilies was incorporated into the Sardinian legislation, so it's not quite an absolute. 2:40 Mussolini went after only to those who couldn't bribe into loyalty, also press censorship helped to spread a sense of safety and stability (in the south but not only)
While the content of the video is fairly accurate and well explained I do wish you called it something different from the Italian Menace. Not sure if it's supposed to be click bait but the assumption that can be made here is that Italy, and Italians by derivation, are a menace to Europe due to the presence of the Mafia in the country. From a pan-european channel I would have expected a bit more care. The Mafia Menace would have worked just as fine narrowing it down to the real issue and avoiding throwing 60 million people in the mix. I say this because Italians are the first ones to suffer the consequences of the Mafia and while Hollywood idealizes it we need to understand that thousands of lives have been lost and ruined by their illegal operations. Great efforts have been done to stop it, as mentioned by the video, but unfortunately their political infiltrations make them incredibly resilient. Add to it that mafias have come to existence due to foreign occupation by Spanish, French, Austrians and Germans overlords and the joke is on us.
You are right, I should have been more careful, and I understand that the name of this video might have been of poor taste. It has been changed to Mafia Menace. Cheers, Hugo
This video makes several error, first of all Piedmont didn't conquer the south, The "Spedizione dei Mille" was An action taken personally by Giuseppe Garibaldi and a Group of volunteers, the piedmontese government was actually agaisnt The immediate integration of The South and was terrified by the action of Garibaldi as They feared he would have created a Republic and attacked The Papal state, they didn't stop him because he was so popular It would have been suicidal. Secondly, The integration of The south in The northern system wasn't caused by feeling of superiority by the northerners, But by the inability of dealing with The sudden and unplanned expansion of all the piemontese legislations in the south caused by the previously mentioned action of Garibaldi, The Italian States couldn't Deal with The south simply because It all happened too fast. But Most importantly, the mith that Mussolini defeated mafia and that The Americans brought It back is a Lie fabricated by the Fascist Regime and kept alive by neo fascists. The Italian mafia was well alive in Fascist Italy, Mussolini just worked with those he could work with and arrested those he couldn't, he made some Big arrest to look like an hero, despite his own system working like a mafia, then mafia sustained americans when It was clear they were gonna win.
Reminds me of the Irish mob but here they're kind of quieted down They where very active in Dublin and also the city of Limerick, Limerick is still facing the effects of the mobs drug dealing and gang war antics It's nicknamed "Stab City" because of all the knife attacks by the Gang Families
Excellent discussion on the structure of organized crime. Even better was the more accurate history of the conquest of the peninsula by the Sardinia-Piedmonte royalist government. One overlooked point in your discussion on the imbalance in manufacturing between the north and south is that this imbalance was not a natural phenomenon, it was artificially created. Southern Italy had a very strong developing manufacturing base in the first half of the 19th century. After being conquered, virtually all of the south's manufacturing concerns were dismantled and either relocated to the north or shuttered for good. The loss of manufacturing is easy to see throughout southern Italy as many former factory buildings remain empty and decaying to this day. They are easy to overlook because they were not the huge factory complexes associated with manufacturing today but are the shells of the small factories that were in operation just as similar businesses operated throughout the world at that time. In a similar fashion, the financial resources of the south, i.e. money in the bank, were physically removed from the south and carried off to the north.
THE 5th Mafia "MALA DEL BRENTA" during the 70s and 90s was the most power in Veneto, have a look Felice Maniero story his nick name was ANGEL FACE, South mafia never tried enter in Venice during that time.
Yes and no , first of all the maxi trial involved only cosa nostra (siciliana mafia ) plus despite being probably at it's weakest point it didn't erase and it's still a powerful force
Give them time to turn themselves in voluntarily and face lengthy jail sentences. If they don't? Shoot them on sight. You offer them mercy if they are willing to accept it. They decide their own fate.
@@003mohamud When a person makes certain decisions they forfeit certain rights. The severity of their actions correlates to the extent of rights that they lose. I'd only support execution for the very worst (and mafiosi generally are), and when the crime has been comprehensively proven to a level beyond any doubt.
Southern Italy should call for indepence once and for all. Instead of continuously being shamed for corruption in the region as if there is no other criminal networks in other countries.
As an EU citizen who have lived in the USA for 3 years I say EU rules are too soft and I doubt the EU could ever stop the spread of organised criminal groups in this current status. PS: Sure the welfare social security net in EU countries mostly stop petty crime and I believe that's the main reason crime is lower in the EU than in the USA but organised crime is different and you cannot stop career criminals with just a welfare system and soft judiciary system. So I believe the EU needs to toughen up a bit in this case.
And? It's not bad mouthing, it's a real and serious problem. We can't hide ourselves under a rock pretending it doesn't exist because we are the 3rd or have good food etc...
@@lucadesanctis563 guarda che ci sono molti video che sottolineano le bellezze del nostro paese, siamo uno dei paesi piu amati al mondo, pero lo sappiamo pure noi che la mafia è un problema che dobbiamo solvere
@@gabrielesharp9798 intende non la bellezza ma i contributi europei, tipo i fondi economici e una delle migliori forze militari insieme alla Francia e Polonia, di solito viene vista come un peso dalla destra estera e come un opera di civiltà e benevolenza l'avere l'Italia nel Europa dalla sinistra estera, che è falso e fa credere l'Italia non serve a nulla.
Is there a video explaining the relationship with south/latin America as a whole? Or does the Monroe doctrine mean Europeans don’t get involved in the region
@@gotoShiba01 more addicts more profits? Plus mafia drug businesses could still benefit by smuggling and avoiding any regulations and import duties that would raise the market drugs price .
Highly inaccurate. The Piemonte-Sardegna kingdom was in severe poverty and near to a civil war, so they decided to conquer the south (via torture and genocide of 2 million people at Fenestrelle) which was a very rich kingdom (Regno delle Due Sicilie). Please get your facts straight before spreading misinformation on social media
It's only a problem in the south here Usually you can here some mafia related news in other parte of Italy too ( Like where i live a branch of the camorra used a road to dump unreciclable waste) But you will never the stereotipical mafioso guy asking for Money to the shop It's a really big problem in the south instead unforunatly : /
its not that big of a deal for common people really, i mean you'll probabily never meet a mafioso in an entire lifespan living in northen italy, and probabily even the south unless you go in specific degraded places. sure mafia is scary and its a really big issue but there are planty of reasons to live in italy, its still one of the most powerful eonomy in the world
The US government cooperated with Lucky Luciano to utilise his Sicilian connections when they entered Italy to fight Mussolini. They knew who they worked with.
The greeks were not foreigners, rather the original inhabitants of southern Italy or magna Graecia. They were the majority of the population well over the 13th century and after their assimilation they forgot their greek routes.
Actualy if you research in the VI B.C was established the First greek colonies and Then they mixed whit the local italian tribes. Even during Roman era there were no greek but a mixed people that speak greek(«...e la Magna Grecia, che ora non esiste più» (Cicerone, Laelius de amicitia, 4,13)), he as forein intended the goverment of bizantine.
@@albanianorthodox8659 No they are not they are Greek even the word Ndrangheta is Greek. There's still towns and villages that have Greek as their first languages.
Little correction, mussolini incarcerated the mafiosos who didn't agree him or bothered his regime. He continued to use and spreed the other ones and use them as another tool for control. (Also he quite cocked the economics of the south... That quite helped the mafias) I know the video is late but still
A lot of mafia bosses get caught here in portugal. The Sicilians and Ndrangheta(the guy on the right was caught 2 months ago) more precisely. Honestly we are doing a better job than the Italians. You are taking this way to serious...
Here in the Netherlands the Italian mafiosi are considered the nice guys. This because we also have Turkish mafia, Albanian mafia, Moroccan mafia, Mexican mafia (maybe the Chinese mafia too somewhere in the background) and the gypsies. Despite all of those groups things aren't going too bad. This because they have respect for the biggest mafia of them all, the Dutch government.
@@goncaloaraujo6644 ahahah you're right man. But ther's one difference...in italy the mafia are able to corrupt polices to keep hiding, while in portugal is more difficult to corrupt polices
And it actually didn’t work fully, the mafia already was inside the fascist government not only at a regional level, they managed to be in power so Mussolini needed to hide it otherwise he had to accept the defeat
@@mrkowalski3479 Thanks for the indepth answer. This problem reminds me a lot with the problems with the Mexican Cartel. Too deep to just be shot out, it seems.
@@Gnefitisis since my English is not perfect I couldn’t do better if you are interested you can read about Cesare Mori he was the guy Mussolini sent in Sicily to “clean”
Btw it's have been said a lot that the ricovery found that went on south of Italy was used to pay more the *politicians* and now real found were used for the poor piple so yeah they got them as well
Frankly, hostility towards substantial economic policy changes, aging population and declining productivity of labour, alongside geopolitical instability, are far more concerning threats.
Not only aging population also declining population. Italy has the worst fertility rate in the world ( the first is Hong Kong but i don't count it as a country)
@@felicepompa1702 I was talking about Europe as a whole, but still Italy has some excellent elements and other areas of structural weakness, as all Countries.
@@felicepompa1702 There is like 150 million ethnic wealthy and educated Italians in the diaspora across the world, start advertising and hope some return.
@@europatony1520 there is almost nothing italian left in them, because italians integrate easily and, since they never were the majority, are now assimilated
@@felicepompa1702 "You can take a Sicilian from Sicily but you can never take Sicily from a Sicilian", One of my favourite quotes told by my Roman mate so i'm sure this quote can also be used for any region of wherever Italian immigrants descend from. Most Italian immigrants especially to the USA and Australia are generally among the wealthiest and well educated of any ethnic group, thats a vast amount of wealth and education brought back to Italy. Besides nothing can change blood they are Italians through and through and as you said they integrate quickly, So even if you get 1 or 2 out 150 million to move back thats extremely beneficial especially with their wealth and educational levels. P.S your talking to one whose moved back :)
EU: Ok Italy how about you address the mafia problem?
Italy: *introduces harsher sentences for them*
EU: No wait that's against their human rights not like that
Exactly, the EU is a freaking joke
Talk about human rights in front of people who sometimes fed their enemies still alive to pigs is hard, trust me.
Not only EU, they don't undestand the problem...
@@pompey333 True, the United Mexican States is an utter joke of a nation.
@@salvo5108 The EU is great,the politicians in it are the scum of the earth like every other politician on this planet unfortunately.
That's one thing that all countries have in common sadly.
Carabinieri is not the anti-mafia police, it's the military police, which in italy covers the same roles as the civilian police (a.k.a. polizia)
Still sounds hardcore.
same as Gendarmerie and Guardia Civil in France and Spain, which are also separate from the national police.
@Silent 93x good observation, most common folk in Italy think Carabinieri are stupid, still to this day...on the other hand, G.I.S. (the Carabinieri special forces) win first place regularly at international special forces competitions, against the likes of Navy SEALs, GROM, SAS and such...so I wouldn't exactly wanna get on their nerves
@Silent 93x my dad used to be friend with a NOCS officer (the Polizia special forces) and my mom with a chopper pilot from the Polizia as well, so I met/talked with those kind of people as well...if the world had more people like that we sure wouldn't be worse for wear
@Silent 93x still are
For the first time I see a fairly good and concrete depiction of the Mafia problem made by a foreigner. I am glad you mentioned the history of it and the concrete danger it brings. Outside of Italy, especially in northern Europe the mafia concept is so far to be understood, yet mafia is very present there in money laundry and drug trafficking which has main markets in countries like UK, Nederlands, Belgium, Germany, etc.
In my humble opinion, in order to beat Mafia is necessary to cut the connection between the foreign tentacles and its motherland, take serious steps towards drugs regulation and legalization, main source of income of cartels, build a serious anti mafia law system in Europe, based for example on the very advanced Italian consitution, which includes crimes that are not considered as such in other EU and world countries
What are some of those crimes not considered crimes outside italy that affect efficiency against mafia?
@@RoScFan for example the crime of mafia association, which allows to process the entire group as such rather then each single member it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associazione_di_tipo_mafioso
Investigation methods are also different from country to country, for example in Germany, due the history of GDR and Stasi, is way harder to use bugs to spy people under investigation, one of the most effective ways of catching mafiosi. Things like that...
@@tanner293 Oh yeah definitely make all that EU wide.
Mafia in Northern Italy isn’t a distant thing. We had lots of bosses (search Felice Maniero on google) and the agromafia, which is basically southern mafias that use agriculture to do money laundering, dispose of toxic waste and get profits
@@pasticcinideliziosi1259 felice maniero was a bandit. north of Italy is a bit more colonized than the rest of Europe, still colonized (I mean by mafias)
I'm Southern Italian, and this is one of the best foreign videos I've seen on the sheer power of 'Ndràngheta" (stress on the first A) so far.
Another VERY important thing to understand is that mafia bosses still managed to command from behind jailbars, giving instructions to their visiting relatives every week. The introduction of the article 41-bis in our penal code, also known as "carcere duro" (tough jail) introduced the notion that, if you were found guilty of associazione mafiosa, you could not use devices which can put you in contact with outside people. So the Italian state equipped itself with the very instrument to cut the mafiosi influence from jail AND to make them confess and bring more people to justice.
Now this very measure, which is not torture but simply doesn't allow communications between mafiosi inmates and the outer world, has been called out by the European Court in Strasbourg as "lesive of some inmates' rights". 41-bis has been so far one of the best pieces of legislation to oppose the spread of mafia, and as a matter of fact should be adopted also by the other states that are beginning now to struggle with the problem themselves.
Thanks from spreading the awareness!
Yeah EU has no idea what italy has to deal with, I personally believe the fight against the mafia should be treated as a (civil?) war, especially because the mafia tries to substitute the state and therefore should be fought like a foreign enemy. Houses in hotspots should be searched and port security needs to be improved, not to mention the human trafficking of prostitutes and agricultural workers needs to be stopped.
@@germanogirardelli "EU has no idea"
Perhaps you have no idea.
The Court in Strasbourg is the court of the Council of Europe. It has nothing to do with the EU.
didnt ndrangheta have like more then 100B euros?
@@gigasigma8373 50 billions
@@tommasovercetti6565 no no, the video is wrong about it.
Atleast from what ive seen in albanian news the group has about 100B euros and i belive them more cause more info and the fact that ndrangheta has connections with albanians.
Thanks for the video. I really wish people understood the scope and gravity of the issue. I'm Sicilian, we've been living with this constant weight on our backs, this pistol pointed at our heads for as long as we've lived. People outside Italy underestimate this issue, ignore our struggle with it and even go so far as to fetishize those criminals.
Già, poi sei in Sicilia, laggiù c'è ne di mafia, ma se ci mettiamo tutti d'accordo possiamo estirparla da tutta l'Italia
To think that only the "fascist" dictator had effectively put a stop to this is so weird to me. Maybe our current "liberal", "democratic", "progressive" leaders dont really care about the people? But wants to appear they do so using the media and other propaganda? We need true leaders again. The ones who would make the hard choices for the good of his people no matter what the world will say. Man up Italy!
@@HH-ni5hm sadly the problem is more due to "civil rights", due to that a lot of attempts that have been made have been shut down. mussolini was able to do that exactly because he didn't care about civil rights, but if a today's democratic country tries to do that EU and many other countries will stop it from happening. the main point here is that it's probably the rest of the world (in particular EU) that has to accept it and let things happen.
@@Plant_The_Otter Criminals have waived their rights already and must be treated as such. Its the weak leaders that are afraid to say this truth are the problem.
@@Plant_The_Otter In short, criminals have no rights.
The claim that the US thought the mafia incarcerated in Italy, when they invaded during WWII, were simply political dissidents is laughable. They were well aware of what the mafia was, having experience with the American version during prohibition and actively engaged with it so as to aid in their invasion of Italy, striking deals with figures such as Lucky Luciano to gain alliances with the Sicilian mafia.
they literally gave entire regions to the mafia
Great to see new pan-European content, keep up the good work 👍 🇮🇪
Thank you! :) More to come!
@Spaic I’m from Ireland....
It’s European content. What’s „pan“-European about this? I
@@bubkabu A European doing videos about Europe for a European audience
@@michaelgpd1103 ew
Honestly, it’s great that this channel exists.
As a southern italian i have watched tons of videos on the matter to understand what foreigns think mafia is and how it works, even from big channels and professional jurnalists yet you're the first one that made me think "wow this guy did the right researches, he knows what he's talking about and knows how to explain it to someone who doesn't know anything on the subject". outstanding job, big compliments, you gained a new subscribed right away my friend
Great job on the pronunciation, you did a good job for a foreigner.
A little quibble: At 3:35, you said "Cosa Nostra" means "Men of Honor", when it literally translates to something more like "Our Thing".
Also, I've noticed that the subtitles are inaccurate.
Thank you :)
Yeah its actually a slip up, the mafiosis call themselves 'men of honour' (uomo d'onore).
The subtitles are still a bit of a work in progress, I'll make sure they're a better fit in the next video!
@@IntoEurope uomo d'onore means actually MAN of honor
@@faridakalilflex Your Italian must be great, but your English grammar clearly needs a bit of work. You should say ‘actually means’, not ‘means actually.’
@@IntoEurope also the term mezzogiorno reffers to the north of italy before getting to the alps
@francisco acevedo
That's not true, mezzogiorno refers explicitly to the southern portion of italy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Italy
Correction:
Americans didn't believe that Mafia people were political prisoners, they knew quite well what mafia was. In fact, they had Lucky Lucian meet with the local mafia to facilitate the Americans landing in Sicily. After the war, the mafia people who helped the Americans were nominated mayors and mps in Sicily:).
I found everything very accurate and well-made! Great informative video 👍 the only things I would add/correct are that many estimates of the economic influence of the mafias are inflated, even by Europol, because often traffics conducted by the mafia are confused or aggregated with traffics by groups the mafias collaborate with, which are very different in structure. Secondly, mafias are registering a negative trend all over the world. Both Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta, for example, have been losing numbers for a while, especially because of their apparatus of symbols and rituals, which needs a specific subcultural background which is less and less widespread. Finally, Sacra Corona Unita is not a "mafia" stricto sensu anymore, since it has lost most of that "traditional" apparatus and is composed of several small criminal groups which are substantially separate.
Apart from this, great job! Keep up the good work 😁
Thx for the input! Next time I'll talk to a criminology expert to get it right ;)
Actually today the situation is much better. More criminal organisations are being hunted down by the state and day by day the mafia has become more and more weak through the last decades. But on the other hand the south of italy is still less developed than the centre or the north, due to this where investments lack and the state fails, those organisations thrive. As an Italian and a European I hope a better future for everyone in the continent will be built with cooperation
Hai delle fonti per caso? Perché forse la mafia siciliana è meno potente di un tempo, ma le altre temo proprio di no...
@@carpanis ad esempio se i boss della Ndrangheta si nascondono come topi significa che sono braccati .
@@carpanis la ndrangheta si è espansa tantissimo però altre mafie tipo la Camorra e la cosa sono state sempre di più schiacciate, anche grazie a una migliore collaborazione fra pula e cittadini tipo in Sicilia che si organizzano per non pagare il pizzo. Comunque c'è molto da risolvere
@@carpanis esatto, magari Cosa Nostra ha meno potere, ma i calabresi fanno bello e cattivo tempo in tutta Europa
@@jacopofolin6400 il fatto è che i giovani che si sentono ripetere la stessa solfa a scuola del "denunciate" "no all'omertà" o cose simili, quando saranno giovani adulti e non avranno da lavorare si rivolgeranno alla mafia comunque. E questo che piaga il sud, l'arretratezza mentale dei giovani, fossi in loro vivrei per strada piuttosto che collaborare con la mafia
I'm going to carry on viewing three times, with thinking time in between, there is a lot to absorb. Thanks.
Amazing job and Amazing video 😍
Fun fuct: the americans also used a lot the mafia during the invasion, beacuse they had a lot of Power in the territory, and the US army used It to infiltrate more effectivly into the south.
That could do this because that had mafia bosses in America that would do the middle man for them, like Luky Luciano.
This was in excange of position of local power in the south once they left.
A nice film that talk about this Is "In guerra per amore" (In war for love) by Pif
Very good job man! Helping other Europeans understand how this cancer works and spreads it's necessary to fight it and hopefully defeat it.
You got my sub! Love from Italy :)
@Santo
Evidently everyone on this channel including yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Even though your comment shows some kind of misguided hatred toward other europeans.
Cosa Nostra means this thing of ours, not men of honor.
Our thing*
@@tommasovercetti6565 That's the literal translation, but this thing of ours is how it's said in the U.S Italian mafia. At least in movies and the Sopranos.
Very good video. Finally an in depth perspective on how the organization works. And not just "bad guys doing bad things" like we see in media
i mean i get that we are not the greatest most reliable country in the world but it wouldn't hurt to see and hear some of the good sides of my country highlited in a video from time to time, we are still the 8th most powerful economy in the world and a big contributor to european wealth. Still a really well made video, and i really like your channel so great work!
that wouldn't get any views I'm afraid
@@donaxtrunculus5023 you made a good point
Italy is possibly the biggest hazard to European wealth too, it has ridiculously high unsustainable debt, its bonds are rated just one level above junk, the fiscal situation of Italy is a time bomb not far from blowing
@@dr.winner2516 Japan has an even more ridiculous debt, still the third economy world power
@@unknownzzz5115
Japan issues bonds in Japanese yen, in the worst case scenario, they can just print, not to mention that more than half of all the Japanese bonds are owned by the Bank of Japan, which is of course owned by the Japanese government, and the yield of those bonds are negligible, the Japanese government would have no issue paying back its debt
economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/japans-debt-mountain-how-is-it-sustainable/articleshow/76298563.cms
Thanks for subtitles!
No problem :) This was the first time making them, they'll be more accurate/better timed in the next one!
I really hope that you can continue this show. Its really good!
Thank you :)
Another fantastic video on a current history of Italian, the animation is still creative and engaging. I find your pronunciation to be very good regardless whether it is accurate or not for I am tired of very poor pronunciation from American/British speaker's and their high self opinions within Europe.
Thank you! I'm also of the opinion that the RUclips (and also broader media) landscape is dominated by the Anglo-World. Hopefully I can play a part in giving Europe and Europeans a voice :)
Amazing video! Most interesting one yet!
Thank you! I'll try and make the next one even more interesting :)
Most interesting one will be when EU will absorb Balkan countries like Albania, Serbia and Montenegro and their mafia structures that are way more violent and dangerous than Italian mafia. But I hope that by that time EU will already collapse and disingrate.
STO CAZZO.
Great video showing the struggles of Italy with the Mafia. Thanks for this and I’m glad I found your channel!
Great video,told by an italian. Just a thing: americans did know about mafia. Thats because mafia was already in USA , a lot of italo-american soldiers knew the people in Sicily,and Us HQ used that in order to have a tactical vantage on the battlefield
he's not italian
They don't "threaten" to spread to the North of the country. They've been here for some 50 year at least.
A very interesting video, that's a sad reality of Italy.
Anyway i'm glad i found your channel! ^_^
Great video!
Thank you! :)
Cosa Nostra means “our thing”
Mussolini put them in their place and abolished the Sicilian mafia and other dangerous gangs that were a threat.
Unfortunately you can thank the US government/army for using known criminals as collaborators and allowing them to rebuild their criminal enterprises throughout Italy after the war ended.
He fought just rural mafia, a big piece of mafia was incorporated in Black Shirts
Yeah, we probably did that. Maybe Italy should clean up its own yard and not collaborate with fascists and Nazis. The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a painful and Grey truth. Plus the US paid mafia to protect certain ports and shipyards during that war instead of letting that Italian blood problem turn our own citizens against us.
could you do a video on the whole one charger for all phones in EU? from the start, getting a proposed unified port in micro usb (with apple against it), to the new legislation (that i think its still not yet implemented and that apple made it look in a commercial that the idea of not having a charger in every new phone case, was actually their idea, when it was not)?
The problem, is that the mafia is still an iceberg, me know only a little part and it’s difficult to know the rest, especially after Andreotti’s death.
great video!
The Ndrangheta controlling 80% of Europe's coke trade is an outdated claim, since the European coke trade has shifted from Italy & Spain to the Netherlands and Belgium in the last decade, where other organisations are responsible for the distribution of these narcotics.
That's why there is a lot 'black,' money (cash) in Belgium especially in real estate and restaurants. Fanny thing is to be paid like that for the renovation of a house situated few streets from EU commission in Brussels.
The ports of Rotterdam and Antwerp obviously attract a lot of criminal smuggling activity. Im sure the maffia also has it's tentacles there, as do several other criminal groups.
@@dekippiesip They do, but they don't control 80% of the trade anymore. The entire European coke trade got more diversified amongst different European crime organisations. Dutch-Moroccan crime groups in the Netherlands already hold at least 1/3 of then entire trade. And Albanian groups got a fair share as well.
The Albanians do now
@@chrischris3922 Yes alongside the Moroccans, Serbians and Irish.
Whenever I think about the Mafia problem I fail to find a solution that is not the "Cesare Mori" method. Italian Mafias are cruel organizations that are not shy of killing the ones in their way and their families, so something radical is needed. At the same time, an operation of this kind reminds me so much of the kind of stuff that used to happen in totalitarian states, where the State turns against their own citizens and deports them far far away for the sake of the Utopia, with a disregard for the innocents caught in the crossfire.
You forgot to mention of the criminal co-rule under preunitary dinasties (the Neapolitan camorra, which dates back at least to mid XVIII century, was the ultimate peacekeepig force) and the tight top-bottom relationship between landlords and criminal bands.
The abolition of feudal laws not only failed but backfired with landowners not only rebuing their possessionts but acquiring lands from the "Demanio" which was partially public-owned. The Restoration didn't touch this of course
1:15 Gentle remind that it was the south to give most of intellectuals supporting unification (usually exiled, jailed or "executed") and when Sardinia marched south there was a full operational (and victorious) "Southern Army" composed by local volunteers.
Also, most of the former anti-banditism laws from Two-Sicilies was incorporated into the Sardinian legislation, so it's not quite an absolute.
2:40 Mussolini went after only to those who couldn't bribe into loyalty, also press censorship helped to spread a sense of safety and stability (in the south but not only)
While the content of the video is fairly accurate and well explained I do wish you called it something different from the Italian Menace. Not sure if it's supposed to be click bait but the assumption that can be made here is that Italy, and Italians by derivation, are a menace to Europe due to the presence of the Mafia in the country. From a pan-european channel I would have expected a bit more care. The Mafia Menace would have worked just as fine narrowing it down to the real issue and avoiding throwing 60 million people in the mix.
I say this because Italians are the first ones to suffer the consequences of the Mafia and while Hollywood idealizes it we need to understand that thousands of lives have been lost and ruined by their illegal operations. Great efforts have been done to stop it, as mentioned by the video, but unfortunately their political infiltrations make them incredibly resilient.
Add to it that mafias have come to existence due to foreign occupation by Spanish, French, Austrians and Germans overlords and the joke is on us.
You are right, I should have been more careful, and I understand that the name of this video might have been of poor taste. It has been changed to Mafia Menace.
Cheers,
Hugo
@@IntoEurope greatly appreciated! Your answer says a lot about this channel. You got a new subscriber.
@@paolo.barone Il familismo amorale, Edward C. Banfield, 1958. Questo saggio è il motivo per cui la cultura stessa italiana non può chiamarsi fuori.
Very informative, thank you
Great job
You can bet that the Mafiosi are convinced Europeanists too 😄
I love the word menace, English is such a curious languaje
Also,good video
Cosa Nostra means: our thing, not man of honour.
This video makes several error, first of all Piedmont didn't conquer the south, The "Spedizione dei Mille" was An action taken personally by Giuseppe Garibaldi and a Group of volunteers, the piedmontese government was actually agaisnt The immediate integration of The South and was terrified by the action of Garibaldi as They feared he would have created a Republic and attacked The Papal state, they didn't stop him because he was so popular It would have been suicidal. Secondly, The integration of The south in The northern system wasn't caused by feeling of superiority by the northerners, But by the inability of dealing with The sudden and unplanned expansion of all the piemontese legislations in the south caused by the previously mentioned action of Garibaldi, The Italian States couldn't Deal with The south simply because It all happened too fast.
But Most importantly, the mith that Mussolini defeated mafia and that The Americans brought It back is a Lie fabricated by the Fascist Regime and kept alive by neo fascists. The Italian mafia was well alive in Fascist Italy, Mussolini just worked with those he could work with and arrested those he couldn't, he made some Big arrest to look like an hero, despite his own system working like a mafia, then mafia sustained americans when It was clear they were gonna win.
Thank you the English subtitle.
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Other Europeans need to understand that if they don't introduce tough anti mafia legislation, they'll end up like Sicily in the 90s
1890’s?
@@nishhnishh1088 1990s
Well done
Reminds me of the Irish mob but here they're kind of quieted down
They where very active in Dublin and also the city of Limerick, Limerick is still facing the effects of the mobs drug dealing and gang war antics
It's nicknamed "Stab City" because of all the knife attacks by the Gang Families
Legalise drugs. This would hurt the Mafia.
As if they wouldn't just stay involved with that and diversify into other stuff. Then on top of the mafia problem there would also be more drug use.
@@seroteamavi9505 One of the main income sources would be gone.
Why should consumption rise?
@@monkeydank7842 because it would be legal and available
@@seroteamavi9505 Would you take it? Do you think, that people are that stupid?
@@monkeydank7842 I do think people are that stupid yes.
I've just realized that your animated self looks like a younger version of Mark Rutte
This gave my (Dutch) friends quite a laugh 😅
Excellent discussion on the structure of organized crime. Even better was the more accurate history of the conquest of the peninsula by the Sardinia-Piedmonte royalist government. One overlooked point in your discussion on the imbalance in manufacturing between the north and south is that this imbalance was not a natural phenomenon, it was artificially created. Southern Italy had a very strong developing manufacturing base in the first half of the 19th century. After being conquered, virtually all of the south's manufacturing concerns were dismantled and either relocated to the north or shuttered for good. The loss of manufacturing is easy to see throughout southern Italy as many former factory buildings remain empty and decaying to this day. They are easy to overlook because they were not the huge factory complexes associated with manufacturing today but are the shells of the small factories that were in operation just as similar businesses operated throughout the world at that time. In a similar fashion, the financial resources of the south, i.e. money in the bank, were physically removed from the south and carried off to the north.
The name of the Sicilian Mafia is " Cosa Nostra ".
THE 5th Mafia "MALA DEL BRENTA" during the 70s and 90s was the most power in Veneto, have a look Felice Maniero story his nick name was ANGEL FACE, South mafia never tried enter in Venice during that time.
why do u pronounce the r with that french sound? great video for the rest, really interesting and well done!
Why is there a photo of Mussolini and Corridoni for the Sicilian mafia?
Bring back Cesare Mori and in two weeks all the rats are going to run away.
The historical part is full of inaccuracies
Wow. I thought they took down the Italian Mafia with stuff like the Maxi trials of 86-92
The maxi trials helped weakening it, but unfortunately mafia is still a thing here in italy.
Let's say that those made it less like far west and more like "it's there but let's pretend we are a normal country"
Yes and no , first of all the maxi trial involved only cosa nostra (siciliana mafia ) plus despite being probably at it's weakest point it didn't erase and it's still a powerful force
Cosa Nostra does not mean men of honor it translates to “our thing”
2:21 They are not mafiosi, they are Mussolini and Corridoni during their militancy in the socialist party
Dude I'm Italian and if prohibitionism didn't exist they would be very weak.
Pretty much.
You can’t ban something and just expect people to not do it- it’s common sense.
The Americans have put the mafia leaders back in power after the slam in Sicily. (Luky Luciano) Mussolini had removed the majority of organized crime.
"Cosa Nostra" means "our thing" not "men of honour"...🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Straight up execution for anybody who has mid-to high level involvement in mafia. Change my mind.
Give them time to turn themselves in voluntarily and face lengthy jail sentences. If they don't? Shoot them on sight.
You offer them mercy if they are willing to accept it. They decide their own fate.
Can’t wait Italy’s corrupt politicians to abuse this.
B-b-b-but human rights😢
@@003mohamud When a person makes certain decisions they forfeit certain rights. The severity of their actions correlates to the extent of rights that they lose. I'd only support execution for the very worst (and mafiosi generally are), and when the crime has been comprehensively proven to a level beyond any doubt.
Carabinieri is not anti-mafia police, its is some sort of military police
Italy is the origin of the civilized world....
Respect for Italy and italians people
No that's Greece.
Southern Italy should call for indepence once and for all. Instead of continuously being shamed for corruption in the region as if there is no other criminal networks in other countries.
Mafia now is everywhere, but if europe can help italy to destroy mafia
For what I have read mussolini didn't actually reduce mafia presence
As an EU citizen who have lived in the USA for 3 years I say EU rules are too soft and I doubt the EU could ever stop the spread of organised criminal groups in this current status.
PS: Sure the welfare social security net in EU countries mostly stop petty crime and I believe that's the main reason crime is lower in the EU than in the USA but organised crime is different and you cannot stop career criminals with just a welfare system and soft judiciary system. So I believe the EU needs to toughen up a bit in this case.
Always bad mouthing bout Italy, forgetting it's the 3rd net contributor to EU funds
And? It's not bad mouthing, it's a real and serious problem. We can't hide ourselves under a rock pretending it doesn't exist because we are the 3rd or have good food etc...
@@Plan73 i dont hide, but i wish also the pros of my country would be highlighted. They never protest bout takin our money
@@lucadesanctis563 guarda che ci sono molti video che sottolineano le bellezze del nostro paese, siamo uno dei paesi piu amati al mondo, pero lo sappiamo pure noi che la mafia è un problema che dobbiamo solvere
#ITALEXIT
@@gabrielesharp9798 intende non la bellezza ma i contributi europei, tipo i fondi economici e una delle migliori forze militari insieme alla Francia e Polonia, di solito viene vista come un peso dalla destra estera e come un opera di civiltà e benevolenza l'avere l'Italia nel Europa dalla sinistra estera, che è falso e fa credere l'Italia non serve a nulla.
Is there a video explaining the relationship with south/latin America as a whole? Or does the Monroe doctrine mean Europeans don’t get involved in the region
Sono il commento italiano che cercavi
Yes. : - ( No more Cosa Nostra just Diabolik. No more Ndrangeta. Just Camora.
Legalize drugs, this destroys drug related organizations
@@deleteduser1877 because drugs being legal hurts fucking no one
@@gotoShiba01 more addicts more profits? Plus mafia drug businesses could still benefit by smuggling and avoiding any regulations and import duties that would raise the market drugs price .
Now the Sicilian mafia is a little bit declined, the most dangerous and richest mafia now in Italy is ndrangheta, from Calabria
Early December 2022
Im Watch
“Italy Mafia Control Food Bussiness”
But know the Vedio is not Available Any more ??😅😅
Highly inaccurate. The Piemonte-Sardegna kingdom was in severe poverty and near to a civil war, so they decided to conquer the south (via torture and genocide of 2 million people at Fenestrelle) which was a very rich kingdom (Regno delle Due Sicilie). Please get your facts straight before spreading misinformation on social media
This reminds me of my 10th grade class
The cosa nostra doesn't mean men of honor
Corruption is a killer.
Diavolo is out of control
Fascinating insight, thank you. I think I will pass on moving to Italy.
Thank you!
You could move to Northern Italy ...
Why would you move to a country you know nothing about?
It's only a problem in the south here
Usually you can here some mafia related news in other parte of Italy too ( Like where i live a branch of the camorra used a road to dump unreciclable waste)
But you will never the stereotipical mafioso guy asking for Money to the shop
It's a really big problem in the south instead unforunatly : /
its not that big of a deal for common people really, i mean you'll probabily never meet a mafioso in an entire lifespan living in northen italy, and probabily even the south unless you go in specific degraded places. sure mafia is scary and its a really big issue but there are planty of reasons to live in italy, its still one of the most powerful eonomy in the world
before the video I got an ad mafia city
For one time Mussolini was doing something right, and then he was stopped. Damn.
The US government cooperated with Lucky Luciano to utilise his Sicilian connections when they entered Italy to fight Mussolini. They knew who they worked with.
he was a hero, has done tons of good things
To much confidence .
There is no short cuts to the American dream. None!!!
I have more respect for Italian Mafia than for the e.u.
United Countries of Europe
The greeks were not foreigners, rather the original inhabitants of southern Italy or magna Graecia. They were the majority of the population well over the 13th century and after their assimilation they forgot their greek routes.
Actualy if you research in the VI B.C was established the First greek colonies and Then they mixed whit the local italian tribes. Even during Roman era there were no greek but a mixed people that speak greek(«...e la Magna Grecia, che ora non esiste più»
(Cicerone, Laelius de amicitia, 4,13)), he as forein intended the goverment of bizantine.
As greek i intend someone that speak greek and that think of himself as a greek
@@jacopofolin6400 in south Italy calabria are Albanians Arberesh
Southern italians are still like 60% greek if you look into genetics
But they forgot greek after the South was occupied by the normans
@@albanianorthodox8659 No they are not they are Greek even the word Ndrangheta is Greek. There's still towns and villages that have Greek as their first languages.
I from Italy and Mafia is a problem but because...
NO ONE DO SOMETHINK FOR HELP US
i from Napoli i know what is
Sicilian Mafia let Americans arrive in Sicily, because they promised freedom
This guy can't pronounce a single Italian city name
He sounds German so he can’t even say the letter r without retching
Little correction, mussolini incarcerated the mafiosos who didn't agree him or bothered his regime. He continued to use and spreed the other ones and use them as another tool for control. (Also he quite cocked the economics of the south... That quite helped the mafias) I know the video is late but still
Italian mafia is none of those organizations. It's far worse than many from the outside and some from the inside understand.
A lot of mafia bosses get caught here in portugal. The Sicilians and Ndrangheta(the guy on the right was caught 2 months ago) more precisely. Honestly we are doing a better job than the Italians.
You are taking this way to serious...
Here in the Netherlands the Italian mafiosi are considered the nice guys. This because we also have Turkish mafia, Albanian mafia, Moroccan mafia, Mexican mafia (maybe the Chinese mafia too somewhere in the background) and the gypsies. Despite all of those groups things aren't going too bad. This because they have respect for the biggest mafia of them all, the Dutch government.
what do you make think that you are doing a better job than italians?
@@kilianreim7239 Because we catch more mafia leaders than them ahahah
@@goncaloaraujo6644 ahahah you're right man. But ther's one difference...in italy the mafia are able to corrupt polices to keep hiding, while in portugal is more difficult to corrupt polices
@@kilianreim7239 yes that's probably the difference
The Neopolitan Comorras just look like a boy band
Cosa nostra ha migliaia di imprese che vendono dal cemento alla frutta, al carburante!!!
So what was wrong with Mousolini's approach?
it was mean
And it actually didn’t work fully, the mafia already was inside the fascist government not only at a regional level, they managed to be in power so Mussolini needed to hide it otherwise he had to accept the defeat
@@mrkowalski3479 Thanks for the indepth answer. This problem reminds me a lot with the problems with the Mexican Cartel. Too deep to just be shot out, it seems.
@@Gnefitisis since my English is not perfect I couldn’t do better if you are interested you can read about Cesare Mori he was the guy Mussolini sent in Sicily to “clean”
To make police-mans act like mafia groups to overthrow the originals.
Btw it's have been said a lot that the ricovery found that went on south of Italy was used to pay more the *politicians* and now real found were used for the poor piple so yeah they got them as well
Frankly, hostility towards substantial economic policy changes, aging population and declining productivity of labour, alongside geopolitical instability, are far more concerning threats.
Not only aging population also declining population. Italy has the worst fertility rate in the world ( the first is Hong Kong but i don't count it as a country)
@@felicepompa1702 I was talking about Europe as a whole, but still Italy has some excellent elements and other areas of structural weakness, as all Countries.
@@felicepompa1702 There is like 150 million ethnic wealthy and educated Italians in the diaspora across the world, start advertising and hope some return.
@@europatony1520 there is almost nothing italian left in them, because italians integrate easily and, since they never were the majority, are now assimilated
@@felicepompa1702 "You can take a Sicilian from Sicily but you can never take Sicily from a Sicilian", One of my favourite quotes told by my Roman mate so i'm sure this quote can also be used for any region of wherever Italian immigrants descend from. Most Italian immigrants especially to the USA and Australia are generally among the wealthiest and well educated of any ethnic group, thats a vast amount of wealth and education brought back to Italy. Besides nothing can change blood they are Italians through and through and as you said they integrate quickly, So even if you get 1 or 2 out 150 million to move back thats extremely beneficial especially with their wealth and educational levels. P.S your talking to one whose moved back :)