Lance Armstrong-Hautacam Attack

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • This is from the 2000 Tour. I cut parts out to make it short.

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  • @YiftertheShifter1
    @YiftertheShifter1 13 лет назад +166

    The man who won this race, Javier Otxoa, was later hit in a car accident about a half a year after this race. His brother (riding with him) died, and Javier was in a coma for a month. The accident left him disabled, but he was successful in the paralympic games. Sad story for a man who had so much promise.

    • @Philippepencet
      @Philippepencet 2 года назад +4

      🙏

    • @Lee-One
      @Lee-One Год назад +1

      12 years later how’s it going

    • @gamingmidget
      @gamingmidget Год назад +6

      @@Lee-One he died in 2018

    • @tubesockets120v
      @tubesockets120v Год назад +1

      ​@@gamingmidgetah really. Must've been fairly young.

    • @dblissmn
      @dblissmn Год назад +1

      @@tubesockets120v 43 years old. "long illness" from obit I read.

  • @walkinwithjesus
    @walkinwithjesus 14 лет назад +110

    These were great rivalries, however Id also like to point out that these 2 announcers are the finest around in any sport. They have always made these races enjoyable and deserve credit. Paul Sherwen and Phil Liggett

    • @marcdaniels9079
      @marcdaniels9079 2 года назад +2

      And the two protagonists were both juiced out of their brains 😉

    • @jamiehancock6296
      @jamiehancock6296 2 года назад +6

      Agreed and RIP Paul Sherwen.

    • @sorellman
      @sorellman 2 года назад

      Great attack by Lance. All those blood transfusions and illegal shots paying off.

    • @SteveZ919
      @SteveZ919 2 года назад +6

      @@sorellman funny how he beat all the other drugged up riders in the tour all those years...so it wasn't 'just the drugs' that helped him win.

    • @sorellman
      @sorellman 2 года назад +3

      @@SteveZ919 You're right, he was the best among the dope users. What a strange world we live in.

  • @coolbreeze3856
    @coolbreeze3856 3 года назад +160

    Lance Armstrong’s book and Foundation got me through breast cancer. I started riding during my chemo. 18 years out. I ride every day and I feel great. Thanks Lance. I had hope because of you.

    • @itstrbo
      @itstrbo 2 года назад +12

      Ppl always forget he was more than a guy who ALSO took PEDs. ....he inspired a generation

    • @luatala8008
      @luatala8008 2 года назад +5

      He got lucky with cancer. He returned to cycling because he no longer had cancer. Then he cheated and lied and destroy other people who were threat to his lie. What is so inspiring about that ????

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 2 года назад +2

      @@luatala8008 what she said above ^^

    • @haroldsmith7044
      @haroldsmith7044 Год назад +5

      @@itstrbo EVERY rider was taking them in those days. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

    • @itstrbo
      @itstrbo Год назад +2

      @haroldsmith7044 hence why I said "also took PEDs" ...he wasn't the only one, easily half of the world tour riders were juiced on EPO and other substances...he was iust better than all of them

  • @Swimmer47
    @Swimmer47 Год назад +14

    The thing is everyone was doping, including Pantani….

    • @joseflemire4284
      @joseflemire4284 2 месяца назад +2

      Really show the proof...Pantani did dope but when ...how do you know...do you know how doping works? Lance had a whole system for doping..it was NOT individual...he had his director, his team, The best Doctor and physiologist in the world telling when and how to use and what to use, etc etc etc...Sorry to pop your bubble. LA was a good pro rider..but TDF champ w/out what I just listed??? Never Never...his Vo2 was measured in the low 80's...he weighed 167 pounds and was 5' 9"...so once again the spin of the everyone was on the same dope etc is how LA tries to spin it and you drank the Kool-aide. Lemond's Vo2 by comparison was 93!! Please do your research and don't just throw out BS ..Read the secret race...Tyler Hamilton lays it all out...LA never sweated doping because he had a whole system to help him do it...Pantani had to worry constantly...he was doing it without his team enabling....and he didn't have Ferrari !!! It was all scientifically planned out..BIG difference. Just look at the comparison of Armstrong after cancer to before and explain to me why he was not crushing it then? HuH? IT IS OBVIOUS

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 2 месяца назад +2

      @@joseflemire4284😂😂😂 Doping is cheating. Your argument is, “well, the gunshot victim wasn’t really shot because they lived” 🤡🤡🤡

    • @JSSBBB
      @JSSBBB 2 месяца назад

      @@joseflemire4284 YES!!! Absolutely correct!! Every word!! thank you for writing this!!

    • @TheGagnonRx
      @TheGagnonRx Месяц назад

      Actually he was crushing it back when he first started as a triathlete prior to doping. What people don’t understand is that there is huge money at play with sponsors / teams. The teams are who organized everything to make sure their riders win. Dope to make millions, or stay natty to be nobody. It’s with every sport. Doping doesn’t make you mentally tough. It give you the extra 1% advantage needed to be at the very top.

  • @chrish3030
    @chrish3030 3 года назад +155

    “Where he’s found this strength from I don’t know”.. 😂😂😂

    • @bobmorane2082
      @bobmorane2082 3 года назад +9

      Lol ikr I got a little idea

    • @slopf
      @slopf 3 года назад +20

      And probably has battey powered bike also...the man is a disgrace

    • @amstelveen1
      @amstelveen1 3 года назад

      All on dope so fear enaugh I guess

    • @IAmAlpharius20
      @IAmAlpharius20 2 года назад +7

      Hint: Definitely not legal.

    • @michaelvrbanac6923
      @michaelvrbanac6923 2 года назад +39

      All were doping ya dopes.

  • @johnsumner6185
    @johnsumner6185 6 лет назад +115

    LA did a lot for Trek bikes and Livestrong...got many off the couch and on a bike.....that will never be erased from history!

    • @TraumaER
      @TraumaER 4 года назад +9

      Agree! He is the greatest of all time. 💯

    • @MarcF.Nielssen
      @MarcF.Nielssen 4 года назад +4

      Maybe. Armstrong has also put millions off professional cycling. There has been doping left, right and center. But nobody apart from Armstrong went after accusers and tried to destroy them.

    • @georgexanthopoulos3003
      @georgexanthopoulos3003 3 года назад +3

      @@MarcF.Nielssen Well nobody's claiming that he is a good person lol

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 года назад

      @@MarcF.Nielssen theres about 200 riders in the tour bro. Only around 25 world tour teams each with no more than 20 -25 riders. Those millions probably wouldn't have made it anyways

    • @MarcF.Nielssen
      @MarcF.Nielssen 3 года назад +4

      @@abone2pick
      I was talking about the spectators, on the road and on TV.

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +2

    People who watch the tour on television share the responsibility of spoiling this sport. If we didn't watch it there would be no sponsors. No sponsors would mean no money and no money in the sport would mean no doping. No doping means that we would find a true winner with good ethics and moral. It would be a far greater experience for us to see, that these riders were suffering like we would. It is not realistic that they finish with a sprint
    (to be continued)

  • @chris14091975
    @chris14091975 16 лет назад +12

    Oh thanks for posting the video, it is refreshing to fing TDF videos without all the stupid background music.

  • @bodi516
    @bodi516 11 лет назад +54

    You don't judge the things well: you could take, right now, any substance, testosterone, everything, but by sitting next to the tv, won't make you win tdf 7 times. He worked hard, and you tell me that the second, third, and generally top 10 overall weren't doped, but still managed not to lose to much time to him...?

    • @alexamann5729
      @alexamann5729 3 года назад +3

      They all doped, but he doped way harder than the others did. Doping isn't a binary thing. There are countless performance enhancing drugs and countless dosages to take them in.
      And yes, he trained hard as well, but so did all the others. And those who trained hard but did it cleanly are an afterthought at most because they never even got to the TdF or as a domestique at most.
      And to account for the very likely scenario that everyone used PEDs they decided that noone is awarded with winning those 7 TdF's.

    • @andreasandremyrvold
      @andreasandremyrvold 3 года назад

      Well.....and well....and a lot of we...llls......and everyone was doped probably?..??

  • @Mortarsprayer1
    @Mortarsprayer1 17 лет назад +1

    Hey PW,
    Cancer hasn't missed us but that is not the point. Now Lance has moved from being a promoter of fighting cancer to a pawn. His support of measure 50 in our state could have long lasting negative effects on us. He is promoting changing our constitution to take money from one group of people and send it to another. That is WRONG. Lance has lost credibillity. Now when I see his name associated with a cause, I will no longer give my support. You loose.

  • @ahmadjooma8850
    @ahmadjooma8850 2 года назад +82

    Miss these commentators. And prime Armstrong. I was 12 years old when I watched this live. EPO or no - these tour DE France's will always have their mystique 👌🏾

    • @ericwilhelm2941
      @ericwilhelm2941 Год назад +9

      Phil Liggit and Bob Roll still doing it !!!

    • @freedomlover24-7
      @freedomlover24-7 Год назад +2

      They were all doping, Lance was just more disciplined and had a better "program." It's a shame he had all his wins stripped while others who doped didn't. They just didn't like an 🇺🇲 dominating for 7 years straight.

    • @JohnnyTheMonkey
      @JohnnyTheMonkey Год назад +1

      Lance is a disgraced cheater. No untainted results, sorry.

    • @lesleykuramoto3943
      @lesleykuramoto3943 Год назад +1

      Commentators still commenting on NBC.

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 Год назад

      @@freedomlover24-7 .....Oh hum yet another Armstrong apologist. [are you American by chance?] Yes, by varying accounts 85-90% of the pro peloton were 'juiced' back then.
      The difference is that unlike Armstrong the other riders weren't sociopathic arseholes determined to destroy anyone or anything that stood in his way.

  • @sizzlexc
    @sizzlexc 16 лет назад +19

    Also, Phil is amazing. I dont think there is a better announcer out there.

    • @pointbreak2811
      @pointbreak2811 2 года назад +1

      Don't forget Paul Sherwin. They're amazing together.

    • @Butterratbee
      @Butterratbee Год назад +1

      Phil is terrible

  • @alabamatide8192
    @alabamatide8192 9 лет назад +50

    Ever wonder why none of the 7 tdf titles were not awarded to another rider???????????????????????
    The entire top 30 were doing EPO....hypocrites against Lance......yep....HE did epo.....oxygen ...........not will power.

    • @weebig
      @weebig 8 лет назад +8

      Such a stupid thing to say...i bet if you did every steroid in the book + epo + ANYTHING. You couldnt even finish the TDF...let alone in good time

    • @davids1033
      @davids1033 3 года назад

      Hell LA even cheated better than other teams and riders. I was/am a big fan. Lots of hours watching OLN.

  • @Ultegra10SPD
    @Ultegra10SPD 2 года назад +6

    RIP Javier Oxtoa. 1974-2018.

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +2

    Come on btinder711, why should Lance be any different from other winners of the tour, that is naiv to think!
    Have you ever heard a rider really condemning what is going on ? No you haven't. Why ? Because cycling is a closed world - Brian Holm Sørensen has expressed this.
    If I were a pro cyclist and didn't use illegal substances I would be furious to hear about all these scandals
    (to be continued)

  • @fanofeverything
    @fanofeverything 4 года назад +14

    I've seen this stage before and I'm still rooting so hard for Ochoa

  • @boardhanger79
    @boardhanger79 12 лет назад +14

    Pantani, Oxtoa(brother), Jimenez all sadly dead. RIP forever.

    • @jackdanielss
      @jackdanielss 4 года назад

      All doped to their eyeballs

    • @rcdogmanduh4440
      @rcdogmanduh4440 3 года назад +1

      But dead none the less!

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 года назад +3

      @@jackdanielss let them rest in peace dip shit . You can take the same shit and you'd still get dropped on the first climb

    • @NeverTakeNoShortcuts
      @NeverTakeNoShortcuts Месяц назад

      I rode with Jimenez

  • @Applecorecafe
    @Applecorecafe 6 лет назад +30

    Lance crushed all the other dopers, Lance is the greatest cyclists ever.

    • @Mondelibre882
      @Mondelibre882 5 лет назад +6

      AppleCoreCafe and you are the greatest Asshole ........

    • @drvonnostrum2671
      @drvonnostrum2671 5 лет назад

      Eddie Merckx, not even close

  • @garycook413
    @garycook413 8 лет назад +61

    I still find it astonishing, bearing in mind that Pantani was doping also, that Armstrong could ride way from him like that. As much as he was unpleasant, and clearly cheating, he was a tremendous rider

    • @M.Đ-z4u
      @M.Đ-z4u 6 лет назад +1

      armo american takes every tip off drugs.why more that anybody else.he was just american puppet

    • @chrisbatson3402
      @chrisbatson3402 5 лет назад +2

      Great druggies. Dopers competing

    • @chrisbatson3402
      @chrisbatson3402 5 лет назад +2

      Lance timed his drugs and miligram perfect.

    • @drvonnostrum2671
      @drvonnostrum2671 5 лет назад +8

      @@chrisbatson3402 they were all on the same program, using the same doctors. Get over it, LA was the greatest tour rider of all time

    • @chrisbatson3402
      @chrisbatson3402 5 лет назад +5

      @@drvonnostrum2671 they are doping with EPO now. All of them dope

  • @blackdog2994
    @blackdog2994 Год назад +2

    Armstrong, Pantani, Zuelle, Ullrich, Virenque. It's a who's who of doping greats.😂

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +1

    Lance Armstrong acts as an offended little boy every time he is being asked about his relationship to Michele Ferrari.

  • @WanderleiSilva29
    @WanderleiSilva29 11 лет назад +8

    Miguel indurain was the same.... he rarely won anything (using youre same lance logic) because he would peak for the tour. Yet, in his time.... Miguel was considered super human.... Lets not forget his buddy pedro Delgado (also a TDF winner) actually was caught with PEDs. Lance is under fire, but in reality most of the TDF riders are on something. Theres a reason every riders time is crushing all the old greats in time trials, etc. Its not just technology.

  • @evvignes
    @evvignes Год назад +3

    Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +1

    Lance was doped like most others and he still hasn't explained how his real relationship with Michele Ferrari was

  • @LoLo-hs7bp
    @LoLo-hs7bp 2 года назад +4

    Lance is no Sportsman. He cheated and bullied. Period.

  • @huntingsynth
    @huntingsynth 4 года назад +3

    500w FTP @ 7w/kg...apparently Contador got close to 7 at his best

  • @MyWissam
    @MyWissam 2 года назад +2

    All of the commentators’ “remarkable” are now explainable.

  • @riccardotassinari6931
    @riccardotassinari6931 2 года назад +1

    Watching his pedals cadence nowadays give rise even to the suspect of using motor like Floyd Landis. Funny to read all the comments before his confession.

  • @kikkers123
    @kikkers123 14 лет назад +1

    @SkratchD Everyone was doped back then, don't forget that..

  • @patrickloper671
    @patrickloper671 2 года назад +2

    Trek bikes and American cycling exist because of Lance. The Tour de France became an event in America because of him. There was so much drugs in the whole Tour it's stupid to strip the results

    • @alanrobinson7891
      @alanrobinson7891 2 года назад

      Trek we're one of the market leaders and innovators many years before lance Armstrong even became a pro cyclist

  • @joseperezpaz9986
    @joseperezpaz9986 Год назад +2

    Every Pro athlete Juices

  • @jlems56
    @jlems56 5 лет назад +1

    Hilarious hearing Phil "Where does he find the strength"....as Tony Stark said to cap, "everything special about you came out of a bottle." While not 100% true as LA clearly has the championship mindset few possess...THAT kind of effort is only achievable through chemistry. And honestly I don't care about that...I care about the lives he's ruined or tried to ruin...but I don't care about professionals doping in sport. It's entertainment, it can be amazing to watch as well. There is simply too much fame and fortune involved to ever think ANY sport, endurance or not, will be truly clean. Too much money.

  • @GuntherL1
    @GuntherL1 12 лет назад +2

    Still convinced that he was clean?

  • @baronianmcclure8865
    @baronianmcclure8865 6 лет назад +63

    I have followed this man all his life, the entertainment and the passion I had was amazing, nothing has changed he is still a legend

    • @kusalperera8839
      @kusalperera8839 3 года назад +2

      Agreed. He would have won even without drugs. He has such a passion and brutal commitment to win

    • @franz009franz
      @franz009franz 3 года назад +4

      @@kusalperera8839 i mean, he wouldn't have. but he would've won if nobody was drugged^^

    • @ivanboesky1520
      @ivanboesky1520 Год назад

      Bullshit. He was by far the biggest doping cheat of them all. That’s why he won. 😀

  • @TesterAnimal1
    @TesterAnimal1 2 года назад +12

    I was by the roadside on that climb, shivering! We’d done the Tourmalet in the rain that morning, then rode up Hautacam.
    Tough day for everyone, EPO or not.

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 Год назад

      @TesterAnimal1.......I was on Mont Ventoux for the following day's stage - when despite yo-yoing 'off the back' all day, the true 'Greatest Climber ever' Marco Pantani won the race [although the ever-sportsmanlike Armstrong claimed he 'gifted' it to the little Italian - arrogant prick!].
      I rode up the Ventoux several hours before the race came through and as you exited the forest and emerged into the 'lunar landscape' section the wind was at over 200kph then! [apparently, it got stronger - and if you watch Pantani and Armstrong attacking you can see the effort they are having to make to forge ahead].
      It also isn't obvious because of the lovely sunny weather that it was actually only 1 degree centigrade at the top of the mountain! [I have a photo of me crouching against the walls of the weather station with some other riders as we are all having great difficulty staying on our feet due to the strength of the freezing wind!]
      I was only wearing a Kelme team jersey and shorts and I was absolutely perished! [I had tried to buy an undervest and arm-warmers at a number of bike shops in Carpentras the previous day - but everything was sold out! [The day before, L'etape du tour' was held on the course - but was abandoned due to the severity of the weather].
      I heard that only 70 riders [out of nearly 6000] made it to the top and a lot of riders that packed were carted off to hospital with hyperthermia! Mont Ventoux is without doubt the most brutal climb I have ever ridden - and I have done virtually all of Alpes and Pyrenees TDF mountains. I totally understand why the late great 'Mr Tom' [Tommy Simpson] lost his life there and why it is known as the 'Beast of Provence'.
      One final note - my hero [Marco Pantani] was a fading star by 2000, despite matching and ultimately beating an insanely doped up Armstrong on the Mont Ventoux stage and also winning stage 15. But he was totally off the pace on the Hautacam stage and Armstrong made him pay. A sad end to 'il pirata'
      I was privileged to not only see, but actually ride alongside Marco and his entire Mercatone-Uno-Bianchi team on their warm-up lap for the first stage of the TDF in Dublin in 1998. Marco won the TDF that year - as well as the Giro d'Italia. A feat that has not been repeated since - or is ever likely to be. He may have been on the 'juice' but he is by far the best climber I ever saw.

  • @truthseeker4388
    @truthseeker4388 5 лет назад +55

    Watching Lance pound those pedals with that cadence straight up those hills is a sight to behold and one that we probably never see again.
    Thank God for reruns and RUclips

    • @JUANGARCIA-se4dm
      @JUANGARCIA-se4dm 3 года назад +5

      Armstrong use electric motor.

    • @Wikato
      @Wikato 3 года назад +3

      @@JUANGARCIA-se4dm Any evidence?

    • @JUANGARCIA-se4dm
      @JUANGARCIA-se4dm 3 года назад

      @@Wikato si, ya se sabe toda la verdad.

    • @Wikato
      @Wikato 3 года назад +1

      @@JUANGARCIA-se4dm English please.

    • @JUANGARCIA-se4dm
      @JUANGARCIA-se4dm 3 года назад +1

      @@Wikato What's up? You don't speak Spanish and you think you know about cycling. LOL

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +1

    That would put me in a bad light (hope this makes any sense in english) because people would throw suspension on me for using doping. And for good reason!
    I have no doubts about Lances physical attributes, I do not question that, but I find it suspicious that all the big names of cycling has been involved with doping or indicates that they have been....

  • @333JIMB0333
    @333JIMB0333 13 лет назад +2

    Drugs or not, You have to be a complete nut to even finish the race....Props to all of them

  • @tommasoarduini9078
    @tommasoarduini9078 4 года назад +2

    Aveva ragione Pantani quando all'arrivo della tappa disse:ma chi è L'Armstrong che è andato sulla luna.Aveva ragione battuto da un super dopato

    • @laetrille
      @laetrille 4 года назад

      Callese estupido

  • @johntechwriter
    @johntechwriter Год назад +1

    Particularly near the top, Armstrong is floating up that grade with no discernible strain. He’s on the drops just to stretch his legs and his cadence is high. He looks noticeably leaner than the other riders. His riding style is light, buoyant, even. It’s almost as if at some points he’s holding himself back.
    Armstrong’s ability to humiliate of some of the best climbers in the sport, as in, Pantani, who looks like an old man when Armstrong breezes past him, was described by Greg LeMond as “Unbelievable!” Make of that choice of words what you will.

  • @secretagent86
    @secretagent86 2 года назад +5

    like Phil Liggett I believed in Lance..."i don't know where he gets the strength from"... now we all know. love the classic bikes and no helmets though

    • @kloschuessel773
      @kloschuessel773 2 года назад

      They were all doped so i guess the advantage wasnt just his from the dope

    • @alpha3488
      @alpha3488 2 года назад

      @@kloschuessel773 Yes it was. Armstrong had the best doctor in cycling working exclusively for him (Michele Ferrari, also known as 'dottore epo') and before he worked with Ferrari he never finished a mountain stage with the top contenders between 1993 and 1996. Armstrong was never a climber and at best average in time trial, but a specialist for one day classics and stage wins at the tour de france.

    • @kloschuessel773
      @kloschuessel773 2 года назад

      @@alpha3488 ferrari started doping cyclists when? Late 80s?
      Indurain himself was doping apparently.
      Not being among the best when not doped while the best dope…
      Fuentes cyclists were worse?
      I dont quite see this bs that he was the best doc and thats why he won.
      Besides…
      When everybody is doping, let the best doc win. Why not? I dont see a problem there at all. He probably chose armstrong bcs he thought he would have the best chances to win.

    • @kloschuessel773
      @kloschuessel773 2 года назад

      @@alpha3488 i think it is totally stupid to hate and blame armstrong like some folks do.
      He was neither the first, nor worst. And he dominated despite all of his contenders being on the stuff…

    • @alpha3488
      @alpha3488 2 года назад

      @@kloschuessel773 My point is that despite everyone doping it wasn't an even playing field. I have to admit I hated Armstrong as a kid for his disgusting dominance in the early 2000s. Today I only have a particulary dislike for the things he did to other riders to make them shut up about doping.

  • @tomburke1878
    @tomburke1878 Год назад +1

    Phil and Paul were lionized as announcers, but I will always hold against them their willful naivete about Lance's doping and general thuggishness. The more honest commentators just laughed when Lance, never a climber as a pro, blew past people like Pantani as in this video. Phil and Paul steadfastly defended Lance even when he did outrageous things like the "zip your lip" gesture he made at Simeoni, who threatened the doping regime from which Lance profited so immensely. Lance was worse than a doper, he was the primary exponent of Omerta, lashing out at anyone who told the truth about the scandal that nearly ruined pro cycling.

  • @RudeHaus148
    @RudeHaus148 3 года назад +1

    Still had to ride the bike. Wasn't like he could sit on the couch and then win the Tour. And anyway, was it unfair when everyone was using PEDs? Even some vocal accusers? Magic Coke can my ass!

  • @jondashun
    @jondashun 15 лет назад +1

    Me too, but who cares... "The difference in the Speed is remarkable" and the others rode on EPO, too.
    Just enjoy the wonderful accompanying commentary.

  • @fusionstar916
    @fusionstar916 13 лет назад +3

    I get winded going up a 50 meter hill.. how these guys do it is beyond me.

    • @abone2pick
      @abone2pick 3 года назад

      Epo, roids ,6 hours of training a day. And a lot sugar and carbs

  • @1978utreg
    @1978utreg 14 лет назад +3

    @hellsadore 'dominated because of epo' even if so he won from a lot of other cheaters so he was still the best right?

  • @FSEVENMAN
    @FSEVENMAN 3 года назад +1

    They never should have erased his wins and they never will in my mind everyone was doping it was a fair playing field no doubt about it. It's very strange to see Europeans trying to erase the dark history of the sport, really? That's like America trying to erase slavery from its history.....

  • @jatinjitsinghmann730
    @jatinjitsinghmann730 2 месяца назад +1

    Lot of people don’t walk straight after cancer . Do u think only epos can make him ride like this?

  • @FoxxyBrown1111
    @FoxxyBrown1111 13 лет назад +7

    The "greatest" doped up performance ever. That from a 1-Day-Classic-Rider. This wasn´t only Epo, but at least 3 re-filled blood bags. What a cheater... Never seen something like this before and after in the dope full history of cycling.

    • @karlnordinger5968
      @karlnordinger5968 2 года назад

      Pedro Delgado 1988 tour winner : "You can't win the Tour de France on mineral water alone." The real tragedy is Lance Armstrong's character flaw (self doubt) ; he could have been a great stage racer without cheating.

    • @ImRezqoo
      @ImRezqoo 2 года назад

      @@karlnordinger5968 that’s the cheapest excuse ever… “Oh he does it so why can’t i cheat”? All of these doped riders should be ashamed of themselves and stripped from all of their achievements

  • @RunninAD
    @RunninAD 11 лет назад +2

    You mad bro? Tell me, when was the last time your good friend died in a bike race. After which you were given a 20% chance to live. No? Then shut up, you don't know him, you don't know his perspective. Fact is everyone was doping, and he was the best of them. I guarantee he would have been the best if no one was doping and all was square. As it stands, he's the greatest competitor the world will ever see.

  • @joes3703
    @joes3703 3 года назад +1

    The reality is they were all doing what Armstrong was doing he was just arrogant about it so when he finally got caught they made him pay not for doping but for his arrogance.

  • @FoxxyBrown1111
    @FoxxyBrown1111 15 лет назад +1

    Mr. All-Time Dope. Shame on you. Epo-Lance destroyed cycling (and still does)

  • @pajaro1576
    @pajaro1576 15 лет назад +3

    I´d like to make a tribute to Javier Otxoa, the winner of this stage. He had knock by a car when trainned with his brother some years ago, Ricardo died and now Javier is a Paraolimpyc rider with some metals in his track record.
    Under my point of view Lance was the best rider of his time and nobody can say with proofs that he was under dopping. Just speculations. I´d like to add that for me, cycling (TDF) under Lance rule was extremely boring.
    Greetings

    • @jpolwhit
      @jpolwhit Год назад

      No, there is definitely proof now😅

  • @flugtager
    @flugtager 14 лет назад +4

    @hghepo Most cyclists in the peloton have a hard time even completing the tour their first go round at a young age like 22. It takes years to develop the stamina to be a true endurance athlete. If you look at the age of winners for the tour de france, but for a few exceptions most are in their late 20's to early 30's. Lance's training differs from others in his specific studying of the stage routes and the tailoring of his training to peak during the tour. Other teams have adopted this.

    • @Liofa73
      @Liofa73 2 года назад +1

      2022 -- Well this didn't age well... Pogacar... Roglic, Vingergaarde... that fuck times have changed.

    • @ElderNerwal
      @ElderNerwal 2 года назад

      @@Liofa73 It was never true to begin with. Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault, Fignon won their first tour at the first try and they were only 23-24. Lemond came third at age 23, then 2nd at age 24 and won at 25.

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter Год назад

      @@ElderNerwal. They are the exceptions that prove the rule.

  • @NeverTakeNoShortcuts
    @NeverTakeNoShortcuts Месяц назад +1

    “This is unbelievable” yep, you could say that

  • @kolegalo
    @kolegalo 16 лет назад +3

    one year after this, Otxoa and his brother were training, and one car hitted them killing Javier Otxoa´s brother Ricardo, now Javi is cycling in paralyimpic games, this is an example of brave, I m from Spain, and we are proud of you Javi

  • @thierryjulien572
    @thierryjulien572 3 года назад +1

    Funny to see those pictures today.
    One question . Who wasn't doped ?

  • @guillaume.pirard
    @guillaume.pirard 7 лет назад +10

    6:26 we do now

  • @897570
    @897570 15 лет назад +2

    Atleast He is a legend....7 time TOD winner......1st in history atleast give him some credit...

  • @meyer7312
    @meyer7312 Год назад +1

    Man the steroids really worked hard on that climb. Good work

  • @alessio4000
    @alessio4000 9 лет назад +2

    I guess the real question is not who is the best cyclist but who is the best doper.....think !

    • @lifepresenter4115
      @lifepresenter4115 9 лет назад +2

      +Allan Bartolini Yes doping is a big part in pro sports, but let's face it- those legs aren't going to get stronger only by staying in bed, using steroids every day and eating bigmacs- it's a system that I call the bermuda triangle- train-eat right-dope=good athlete. everybody dopes- It's just told to the non-athletes as farmateutical business :D. The only reason that athletes get pass doping tests is that the urine samples they give aren't theirs :). The only thing I think is cheating in cycling is using motors in bikes- because you are not using your own effort.

  • @shellsbignumber2
    @shellsbignumber2 2 года назад +2

    The amount of times the commentators said the word unbelievable about Armstrong's performance. It sure was unbelievable.

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter Год назад

      They got that line from Greg LeMond, who answered a reporter’s question about Armstrong’s ability to drop the group at will. Expected to reply with a compliment, LeMond used a left-handed one: “Unbelievable!”

  • @yaniktydetmer4153
    @yaniktydetmer4153 8 месяцев назад +1

    Never testing positive he is the goat final lance my idole

  • @christiangerhardt2408
    @christiangerhardt2408 3 года назад +3

    Still the champ

  • @SELMER1947
    @SELMER1947 2 года назад +1

    Armstrong, the shame of cyclism

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +1

    I must admit that even though we know they use drugs it still is fascinating to look at

  • @dahgutone
    @dahgutone 14 лет назад +1

    @htg1313
    But Merckx did dope.. They caught him doping a few times too. Love the guy though. A complete legend.

  • @bradyb2482
    @bradyb2482 10 месяцев назад +1

    2.40 'this is unbelievable'

  • @Huskylonghorn
    @Huskylonghorn 6 лет назад +7

    6:31: "Where he's found the strength from I don't know." SMH lol

  • @VikingInvaders
    @VikingInvaders 17 лет назад +1

    Winners do not cheat and take drugs! Wake up

  • @dahgutone
    @dahgutone 14 лет назад +1

    Bet you. 20 if not 30 years from now, Lance would be considered one of the greatest cyclist along with Eddy Merckx.
    If you put it this way, Merckx got caught multiple times. And yet everyone respects the guy. It wasn't like that when he was racing. There were alot of people against Merckx's ways back in his career.
    People will soon grow out of it.

  • @TigerWoodsLoveChild
    @TigerWoodsLoveChild 12 лет назад +1

    How can he be one of the best cyclists of all time? Besides being doped the entire time, after the World Championships, all he ever won was the TdF. He didn't even ride the other Grand Tours until the Giro once during his comeback. He didn't get results in the classics. He was a one trick pony, which hardly qualifies him as one of the greatest.

  • @jorgemaya1872
    @jorgemaya1872 2 года назад +1

    EPO riding at his best lol 😂

  • @manlyanferneealcomendas7449
    @manlyanferneealcomendas7449 8 лет назад +28

    still the best rider ever!

    • @psmith952
      @psmith952 6 лет назад

      manly anfernee alcomendas hardly the best

    • @drvonnostrum2671
      @drvonnostrum2671 5 лет назад

      Eddie Merckx is the greatest cyclist of all time, no one, including Lance, would argue that

  • @00bikeboy
    @00bikeboy 12 лет назад +2

    @markyboy28able99 Well, I agree with you. I started watching when Indurain was on top. I loved the Tour, I couldn't get enough. The climbs, the time trials, the team tactics and the individual efforts. The amazing dramas, the class of the riders who waited for opponents who had mechanicals. Then the doping scandals hit and I just stopped watching. Such a shame. Hopefully they'll fix it and I'll watch again, but it hasn't killed my love of riding.

  • @ketamina
    @ketamina 14 лет назад +1

    Chava Jimenez RIP

  • @knarf_on_a_bike
    @knarf_on_a_bike 4 года назад +2

    Was Lance doping? Sure he was. We knew it even back then. BUT SO WAS EVERYONE ELSE. I bet there wasn't a clean rider in the Tour. He was still the greatest rider I've ever seen.

    • @GoofballVidProductions
      @GoofballVidProductions 4 месяца назад +1

      Listen to him get defensive when somebody mentions motordoping. His reaction is an instant rewind to 2003, the only thing missing is the threat of a lawsuit. Take it for what it is, but I’d think an admitted doper would be more inclined to laugh such a thing off, rather than fly into rage.

  • @taurus0423
    @taurus0423 17 лет назад +6

    I agree with you 100%. If Ullrich has done as much training and dieting as Lance had, I believe Ullrich would have won at least 3 TDF. Besides, Lance only focused on Le Tour post-cancer, so he wasn't greedy like Eddy M., nor was he ready to risk dropping his condition by trying to win Giro, either. All he wanted was Le Tour de France yellow jersey. That's it.

    • @Lee-One
      @Lee-One Год назад +3

      How’s life 16 years later?

    • @johntechwriter
      @johntechwriter Год назад

      I would not characterize Eddy Merkz as “greedy” for having competed through the season. Among the pros there used to be a thing called “honor.” A true champion did not cherry-pick his races. He toughed it out against them all, and this validated his star quality. Plus, racers back in the day made a pittance of what a top pro makes now.
      Armstrong had so much money coming in from sponsors, he could take his private jet from event to event and take part in celebrity activities. I think Armstrong was grooming himself for public office when his racing career was over.

  • @markmtbrider
    @markmtbrider 3 года назад +2

    Still epic ...

  • @lamesalegend
    @lamesalegend 6 лет назад +2

    True Champ hoping we get to see another as dominate as Lance was. He enjoyed crushing the opposition

  • @johnberg181
    @johnberg181 8 лет назад +1

    look man the field was even in alot of respects, the europeans were always doping

    • @BFG_29
      @BFG_29 8 лет назад +1

      and the Americans were on pani agua? Armstrong=biggest cheater in cycling history

    • @johnberg181
      @johnberg181 8 лет назад

      +grungeabuser that is being ignorant to the extreme. i recommend you read up on steroid use by the eastern bloc nations then you will understand the culture of sports.

  • @ccarneiro289
    @ccarneiro289 14 лет назад +2

    ele é o melhor ciclista de todos os tempos... e quem ta a dizer mal dele é porque tem raiva de ele ter conseguido aquilo que conseguio

  • @wolflupus3668
    @wolflupus3668 11 лет назад +2

    I think it was more fun when they were on EPO, ask Froom he knows!

  • @yaniktydetmer4153
    @yaniktydetmer4153 Год назад +1

    Hé is the goat final

  • @maradona80s
    @maradona80s 15 лет назад +4

    Me acuerdo perfectamente de esta etapa, una de las mejores que he visto en mi vida.
    Que recuerdos, que fuerza y como subía Armstrong por aquel entonces y mítico Chava.
    DEP Otxoa.

  • @speedoflite1
    @speedoflite1 10 лет назад +8

    Phil meant to say "tremendous turn of growth hormone and EPO"

  • @cristianpaitoco9291
    @cristianpaitoco9291 5 лет назад +2

    Lance Armstrong el Dios del ciclismo

  • @1990cv
    @1990cv 15 лет назад +1

    Back in the days when they had to slow down in the corners riding up the mountain hahaha funny to see

  • @dr_taka
    @dr_taka 15 лет назад

    I got to say I will have a significant riding difference if I were 8kg lighter in fat for my endurance race last Sunday.
    Do anyone of you ride at all? Or you guys just too fit and always been the same weight.
    My weight yo yo and I can tell how my ride feels when I am fat, even I am strong most of the time.

  • @horatiualin
    @horatiualin 15 лет назад

    you know jan ullrich never been tested positive? neither virenque, bjarne riis, valverde, millar and i could go on and on. and you say they are all clean? most of them admited using epo. don't be sad for nobody and also don't be naive. i was a huuuge ullrich fan...but i would say even his earring was doped.

  • @herefordmsv
    @herefordmsv 14 лет назад

    @u368 Rubbish. If they were positive they would have caught him by now. I mean...how many TDFs did he win AFTER 1999 when you say he tested positive?? How many times did he get tested every tour? Lots and lots I can tell you that. He is probably the most tested man ever in sport.

  • @hydrojet7x70
    @hydrojet7x70 16 лет назад

    your comment is just that, a comment a opinion. nothing more. i doubt there will ever be one winner that every one will love all at one time.
    i know him and he does not use steroids. let him be. you can have the same thing just get on ur bike a work ur a** off and then do it again and again and again.

  • @ivanchambers5670
    @ivanchambers5670 2 года назад +1

    What a fake

  • @neolink101
    @neolink101 17 лет назад

    HAHAH GO FIND JOBS?! How about YOU finding a job Frenchie with a 56% unemployment rate! AND DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THE FRENCH BY LAW CAN ONLY WORK 35 HOURS A WEEK? MWHAHAH I WORK AS MUCH AS 2 FRENCIES LOL! Ironic! wow!

  • @greglemond1
    @greglemond1 16 лет назад +1

    i grew up with him. lived in france where they love/hate him and france loved/hated me. he killed us as a 15 year old triathelete.......i still remember that race in Plano Texas

  • @Nicksonian
    @Nicksonian Год назад +5

    Phil Liggett…the best thing about this video. One of the best sportscasters ever. His long-term, continuing presence at Le Tour is amazing.

  • @nolanryan999
    @nolanryan999 14 лет назад +1

    @hellsadore Are you aware that Armstrong at age 24 was a very promising rider? He won the 1993 World Champ ahead of Indurain, and won a stage in 1995. He was a different type of rider before the cancer (not a stage-race specialist), but he wasn't a chump.

  • @wuhtinyauh
    @wuhtinyauh 15 лет назад +1

    WADA needs to open an unlimited class where the riders can just do want ever they want to and we can just sit back and see how fast these guys can go. It may be impossible to stop all doping I just hope that they catch as many dopers as possible. GO Lance '09

  • @Nation010
    @Nation010 14 лет назад +1

    Hey guys i am brit born Nigerian and i respect L Armstrong totally uterly n absolutely pls don't disrespect all the hard work that guy has done, like it or not there will never be another cyclist like him PERIOD!! his ethics n dedication to the sport is no.1 he is hated because he is a perfectonist since when is that a bad thing, if i am anywhere near his approach to applying his his dedication to his sport and life i would be satisfied indeed. This i say with sincerity

  • @dperdi
    @dperdi 16 лет назад

    when he was in Liberty Seguros!!! Not in Kelme. Like others who were caught in other teams.
    Probably they did the same, but they seemed cleverer to not be caught.