Indurain and Lance Armstrong time trial Tour 1994
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2012
- Indurain overtakes Armstrong which can not follow him.
Indurain takes 2 minutes ahead to Rominger and more than 5 on Boardman, two of the best specialists of all time and the last two record holders of the hour record.
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Stage 9: Monday, July 11, Périgueux - Bergerac 64 km Individual Time Trial
1. Miguel Indurain: 1hr 15min 58sec
2. Tony Rominger @ 2min
3. Armand De Las Cuevas @ 4min 22sec
4. Thierry Marie @ 4min 45sec
5. Chris Boardman @ 5min 27sec
6. Bjarne Riis @ 5min 33sec
7. Thomas Davy @ 5min 35sec
8. Abraham Olano @ 5min 45sec
9. Arturas Kasputis @ 6min 1sec
10. Piotr Ugrumov @ 6min 4sec
13. Lance Armstrong @ 6min 23 sec
25. Claudio Chiapucci @ 8min 04 sec
70. Marco Pantani @ 10min 58 sec
One gets so much more vivid sense of the actual "tour" from this video than from the very sterile coverage of today. There is the feeling of the streets and the hills and sun and sound. Interesting.
Agree!
Just imagine how these guys would've looked in HD... Absolute beastmode.
Haha - yes, this looks like it was filmed with a potato.
I miss those times when the tour had long and hard time trials.
+Mihail Sirbu Absolutely.
Exactly. Christian Prudhomme had the brilliant idea to introduce more hill stages and every once in a while some cobble stones, but on the other hand the mountains are not hard enough every two years in average, there are still two many sprinters and flat stages causing a high number of crashes and he is absolutely against long time trial "because some of the favorites gain two much time on these stages". Well, if you set up some many flat stages and poor moutain stages obviously the time trial become two decisive ... And I didn't even mention the fact that the Giro and the Vuelta have some very attractive routes since the begining of the decade, making the Tour less attractive. Dumoulin, Pinot and Chaves are snobing the tour this year for the Giro, Quintana and Nibali gave their priority to the Giro last year, etc ..
I also miss these good old Epo days! (Irony!!!)
Exactly. Even the 8-10 km prologue was exciting for me.
Mihail Sirbu indeed, 63 kilometers, before the mountains, he took always at least 3min30 to the second, even 5 sometimes, climbers 6-7 minutes
"If I die during the Tour de France , you do not give up the race" - Big Mig's father. Rest in peace.
Indurain the heaviest winner in tour history. His mental and physical strength in the mountains was insane. We will never see a rider like this man again.
totally agree with you. He is the best ever existed
Yeah I really enjoyed the Indurain years, very stylish rider. In saying that, let's not forget Jacques Anquetil who was a time trial freak also. Nine time winner of the Grand Prix des Nations, most of them 140 km time trials. 140 km. Let that sink in.
It was an era of weak climbers though. And EPO changed the whole sport at the time.
@@Broodkast8 weak climbers... You're clueless
@@Broodkast8I do not think Indurain would even be top 10 now in the tour, because the Tour back then was much more time trial heavy and the last 15 years, there is not that much time trial. Search Wikipedia on the 92 Tour Route, there could not have been a tour ever better suited for a time trial rider like Indurain, the Pyrenees were skipped that year and only 2 days in the Alps
That moment when Lance said I need some serious medical help.
Triadlateralus 🤣
I need same doctor :)
@@TenTegens Dr. Ferrari? :P
To even the playing field since Indurain was doping too
Well, he already had a serious medical help at that time, that's why he got testicle cancer.
Then I let you guess what sort of help he got in 1999 to be even faster, not medical anymore, but motorised.
I like that 650c front/700c rear wheel combination. Old school tech is always neat to see.
Yes , Campagnolo Shamal titanuim 650 cc in front and Campagnolo Ghibli 700 in rear .
you think this is efficient? i am curious why they're not using this anymore.
@@friendlyflow efficient in the old era
More aero , more lightweight for the little front wheel , and more inestability in front on the bike , the position in the bike its very forced compared with the new tt bikes .
@@friendlyflow Because the UCI banned it!! That's why they're no longer using it!!
No "old school tech" here: the small wheel in the front just forced Indurain which had a huge body to get a more aerodynamic position on the bike. That's all.
this happened 26 years ago, it was posted 8 years ago, I STILL LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!! Indurain just slaughters everyone on this ride, eats Armstrongs lunch as well as pretty much everyone by at least 2 minutes. The guy was a beast in the race of truth and just a monster as a cyclist.
Notice when everyone else started taking EPO he couldn’t compete anymore
@@mattieaflo DISAGREE 1000% everyone was doping at the time Mig was as well.
@@sealcycle2020No of course Indurain was doping. I’m saying he was one of the founding fathers of doping at the TDF. As soon as everyone else leveled the playing field, he came back to earth as well.
@@mattieaflo floyd Landis a tour de France winner himself said doping has been in the sport way before Greg lemond so indurain was not a pioneer at all bro. He had his success and he probably retired a little earlier which is understandable because the man had won it all already. Why keep risking your health to prove a point you already proved .
@@abone2pick Yes there’s always been cheaters, but when EPO came along in 1991 with Indurain, Bugno, and Chiapucci, that particular doping was the point that natural athletes couldn’t overcome.
Miquel looks like a beast here what a muscular monster!
SOID! THE! BIG! (MIG)!!! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!! SOID! IS! THE! (YELLOW)!!! JERSEY! (MAN)!!! SOID! *MIKE!!! SPENCE!!! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!!!
drugs do that
@@patthewoodboy if drugs were the reason he was big, then every rider in the tour would be 250lbs of pure muscle
Yes pretty muscular and a resting heart rate of 28 bpm extremely rare.
@@Squashenpilhe was so cold and don’t feeling the pressure, when you watch him riding he was so calm and confident, and that’s one of the reasons of his success
Indurain was a beast,best time trialist ever
For real...
Anquetil takes that honour. 9 GP Nations when it was essentially the ITT world championship plus all those grand tour tt wins.
@@Penfold-zr2be I don't think Anquetil would have been able to beat Toni Rominger by 2 minutes, and Chris Boardman by more than 5 minutes, as Indurain did, remember Rominger and Boardman were Time trial specialists.
@@m.amonroy4465 You clearly don't know cycling history. Anquetil's era also had tt specialist like Baldini, Riviere, Aldo Moser Rolf Graf etc. As he never competed in the 90s you can't say how he would have fared against riders in that era.
@@Penfold-zr2be Yes, two different eras...as it was, Indurain would have smoked Anquetil without question. The physical differences were without question....
Gotta love the steel frames.
Indeed, more durable.
@@acewilliams7917 The top riders received several new steel frames per year; the rest a new one every year or two. As with Formula 1 racing, you can have fast or you can have durable, but not both.
@@jotcarey Steel is obviously slower, but look at the performances the riders produced on them. Far faster than contemporary carbon frames. Unfettered EPO use will best technologies advancements 100 times out of 100 😂
Qué Increible; Qué "máquina humana"!!!! :)
El Mejor de todos los tiempos!
waouh, Indurain was such a beast!!!
It's all the drugs.
@@mxplk you cant turn a mule into a race horse with hormones.
@@abone2pick It might be impossible to turn a mule into a race horse using drugs, but here we're talking about elite athletes. And just as one can turn an also-ran elite horse into a Triple Crown winner with the judicious administration of drugs, you CAN turn an elite domestique into a major tour winner with drugs. Floyd Landis might be one such example in pro cycling. Barry Bonds would be an example from baseball.
@@mxplk keep in mind in order to be a domestique for a pro cycling team you already have to be strong af. Even the weakest domestiques would demolish us. If u not naturally talented the team won't even offer you the drugs.
When the world champion get overtaken and 2 one hour record holders get beaten by over 2 min you know you are watching best.
In my humble opinion..Big Mig was the greatest.
SOID! CORRECT! THE! BIG! (MIG)!!! SOID! WITH! (REAL)!!! GOOD! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (KNOWLEDGE)!!! SOID! IS! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!! SOID! *MIKE!!! SPENCE!!! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!!!
Yeah, the greatest doper. He was a super domestique....not a top tier rider for all of the late 1980s. Then EPO emerges (1990-1991), and Mig is suddenly the very best. Quite a conincidence. Did Mig suddenly learn how to train in 1991? LOL...no. He was the rider who responded the best to EPO. Had something to do with his massively proportioned lungs. He needed a way to get his circulatory system to carry the volume of O2 that his lungs could provide. Enter EPO....
@@shooter7a si tienes pruebas denuncia ante la UCI. FANTASMA!!!
Big Mig is the definition of a classic gentlemen rider. Destroys Lance Armstrong like a parent playing soccer against his 5 years old kid and stays classy. El Rey.
A monument in himself
You can remember the time trial in Luxembourg Tour 1992, Indurain won and Lemond was 4 minutes 4 seconds behind in fifth position. I made a highlights video about it entitled: Indurain the most incredible time trial ever seen Tour 1992 part 1 of 2
I saw that video, it was just beyond words, . . . INCREDIBLE!!!!!He was crushing the big names by 3-4 minutes. Beating Lemond by 4 minutes????? 4 . . . MINUTES!!!!! Just incredible, even Lemond was at a loss for words. I am sure he knew WHY but even still it is just very impressive. Thanks for those videos Benito
4 minutes??!!!! Thats simply astonishing!!
look indurain position, he had the best time trial position of all history
Actually he wasn't that aero. Look at the gap between between his chest and bars riders now are tighter and more aero but the best in his time
@@abone2pick Totally agree, back then there was a lot of talk of why didn't he try to adopt a more aero position, the answer was he didn't need to and he didn't like it. I guess when you can throw around 500w+ it doesn't matter so much. I remember him doing the hour record, later came out he didn't even want to do it, but Banesto kind of pushed him into it (alledgedly).
When Indurain zooms past at 3:08, this was a moment of epiphany for Lance Armstrong........he's thinking to himself: _"I want some of what he's having."_ 5 years later and after beating cancer, Lance starts his impossible win streak of 7 consecutive Tour de France wins. Even Disney doesn't make fairytales that outrageous.
100%
Hehe nice 👌
Can you provide evidence to support your statement???
@@CB-fv4vv REALLY???????
SEAL CYCLE Yes, really.
6:40 The comparison between Rominger and Indurains form on the bike is like night and day.
Como entra Indurain en la última curva.impresionante!!
What a total monster against the watch!This was brilliant to watch at the time.Fantastic!Surely Big Ted would have approved of that display of total domination. :)
as far as I can see, his european counterparts never had a day in court on any count, nor ever paid a cent on any charges of doping - but he was and is a hero cyclist with great physical talents and attributes.
I was there that day on the course watching. What you can only guess at from these pictures is the heat that day - it was well over 35 degrees and if there was any wind movement it was in their face. The roads are tiny in parts and the surface was grippy and the tar was melting and it was far from flat! I rode a bike at a decent level once and I rate this the greatest ride I ever saw at any time.......well this and Boardman's 56k hour record! Though because of the conditions and course I actually rate Indurain's ride that day higher. Now I do not want to even enter into the spurious drug argument but it would be naive in the extreme not to have some reservations about a ride like this in 1994 when EPO was well known and also undetectable. We will just never know who was and who wasn't in the mid 90's. Nevertheless make no mistake, Indurain would give Tony Martin or Fabian or Wiggins a good race over 50k today.
I think Indurain doped like all the GC contenders, but I think he is among those who would have been better off if everyone was clean. He would have dominated more easily.
+jetbute. Very well said! in mind there is no doubt that Indurain did dope to win the Tour de France five times 1990-95 in a time where many top contenders admitted to the use of doping, especially EPO.
And all those riders would be on a 14 kg road bike, that would be an interesting race INDEED.
INDUTRAIN. POR SIEMPRE MIGUELON.....
brutal!!!!!! amazing!!!
Do not compare a single day time trial with a time trial race after many days in the Tour de France.
Running on a velodrome and in the road with tough ledges is not the same.
Comparing indurain with Boardman is like comparing a tennis player and a paddle player.
Indurain won 2 Giros de Italia the same year that won the Tour de France, only the greatest can do that.
5 Tours and 2 Giros. Even Abraham Olano almost always won Boardman in the time trial.
Greatest at doping?
It was this time trial that sealed the deal for Lance to do EPO. Prior to this he was “clean” but on this day he’s realized his career was over if he didn’t dope. If you watch his interview at the end Armstrong is spent and flabbergasted at how fast Mig was going (he was on EPO) and how as a World Champion he got passed like he was going backwards. I remember watching this live in 94.
El mejor ciclista de la historia con mucha diferencia
La imagen cuando sale de meta es épica . Impone verlo ,parece que va en moto .
This was Stage 9. When Armstrong was interviewed at the finish he said, "It's over." Indurain took the lead and kept it.
The highest oxygen uptake ever meausured. A biological freak. And a superbly classy guy.
Is Riis a biological freak for having the highest Hematicrit value ever measured in Cycling. What a clown comment....
@@DarthBane-zf8wv Agreed 100%, my friend...sure, "Big Mig" left the sport quietly after winning his 5 TDF's & never sought the publicity & adulation that the sociopathic bully Pharmstrong did but he was so obviously a doper, which was especially evident when EPO really hit the peloton in '91 & he won 5 years straight from '91-'95!! Also, this guy's completely full of $hit re: the highest VO2 max "ever measured" - LeMond's VO2 max was recorded at 92.5, which is 4.5 ml/kg/min better than Indurain's 88.0.
Um, while I (& virtually anyone who followed cycling 30-odd years ago & knew/knows anything about the sport, both then & now, in hindsight) are completely aware of the fact that "Big Mig" almost definitely used EPO to win 5 years straight from '91-'95, I have nothing personal against the guy. However, re: your unfounded claims re: his supposedly superior "oxygen uptake" capacity, have you ever heard of a certain Greg LeMond, perchance? LeMond's VO2 max was tested at 92.5, which was a full 4.5 ml/kg/min superior to Indurain's 88.0 & when you say "ever measured", BOTH of them were beaten to the bragging rights of best ever VO2 max by a couple of Scandinavian biathletes/cross country skiers.
@@lavielemond according to his total oxygen uptake he was 10kg heavier so 88 is a massive oxygen uptake its measured per kilo..
This is what you call exploding out of the gate....speed is incredible off the start..
Laurent Fignon of France tested positive for amphetamines at the Grand Prix de la Liberation in Eindhoven on 17 September 1989 (wikipedia)
The KING 👊
Indurain is Master of Master!!!!
the best of the best.... my actual project named... "Sir Indurain"
Undoubtedly the greatest performance in cycling/sports history
he did actually in TDF '99 for cortisone. But was allowed to get a retrospective prescription for saddle sores by UCI to circumvent the positive test.
legenda...
Se me ponen los pelos como escarpias recordando al numero 1 de todos los tiempos
Por los siglos de los siglos......
The tour is now sometimes 500k shorter and they also dont have these long ITTs new format sucks
With the "super teams" forming with like 3-4 GC contenders per team they really need at least 2 long ITTs, and probably the prologue, too to differentiate times, or it's just gonna be the teams picking a winner.
Just plain awesome!! Wish l were there
So wrong but I love Mig's rides like this. There's one of him finishing a TT (in yellow) having smashed everyone then after 10secs calmly stepped off his bike like he'd arrived at the shop.
Increible
It means that Indurain is not in the List of doping cases in cycling of the wikipedia
Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton, two of Armstrong’s former teammates, testified that he had admitted to testing positive at the race in Switzerland (2001) but boasted of the result being covered
hat moment when Lance said I need some serious medic
Uno de LOS MAS GRANDES DE LA HISTORIA......
I wonder if this was the Tour where Lance said F*** It...time to get serious about doping. The way Indurain went by him...LOL
shooter7a I remember seeing him in an interview say: «f***. I’m getting dropped.» I think it was after this stage.
yes, american cyclists at the time were light-years behind the curve on doping regiments compared to the europeans.
Grande Miguel 🏅👍🏽🇨🇱💎 y Corrías LIMPIO Not DOPING 🏆🚴🏻♂️🚴🏻♂️🚴🏻♂️🚴🏻♂️🚴🏻♂️
A 50 el promedio durante más de una hora,, increíble,de otro mundo,a 2021 y nadie como él
Miguel Indurain TT was insanely fast. In my books he is the greatest rider.
Was it something to do with Migs Masseeve lungs? Amazing speed. . .notice how he keeps pedaling on the `easy` bits (Down hills etc)
Optimized doping.
Indurain WAS THE LAST OF MODERN TIMES competitor CLEAN THAT RAN. IN HIS CAREER HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED AND NOTHING EVER been found!! ALWAYS USED THE SUBSTANCE ALLOWED. DEDICATION work!! AND WHAT him apart?? The genetic factor!!
Omerta.
Blood values are only part of the performance; the rest of the body (which is a lot, and Indurain has an amazing body, best build than Lemond, Hinault or Fignon in my opinion), capacity for suffering, concentration, motivation, aerodynamic position, pedaling technique, skill, etc., are the largest part of the final result.
He had nothing on hinault or fignon for skill and style especially in the mountains. If it wasn't for blood doping and epo indurain would be nowhere near them on the climbs.
So you would prefer to lug "Big Mig"'s rather cumbersome body up über-steep mountains, rather than that of LeMond, Hinault or Fignon, would you?! That was where the EPO came in, of course!!
@@thiscocks Do you think the rest of the peloton were on Kool-Aid only? Everyone Armstrong, Merckx, Greg Lemond, Froome they all used enhancing performance drugs to win the Tour de France
80kg knocking out 500 watts and won 5 tours in a row, compared to the emancipated cyclists of today these guys were huge and on all sorts, 😉 you cant win a tour today @80kg. But Miguel was a phenomenal machine, zumo or no zumo.
No entendí una mierda lo que decia el relator, pero, la pucha che, ¡qué placer ver a Indurain!
Getting destroyed like that in the rainbow jersey must have been embarrassing for Armstrong. Indurain was a time trial God though.
Well he did best Indurain for that rainbow jersey - who was visibly distraught in defeat to Lance.
The best ever
I know it's a difficult question. But you've pretty well summed up the way I feel about it. We can wring our hands about the unfairness of it all, but it isn't going to go away. It's all spoilt though. Someone wins a stage or does a spectacular ride and you wonder....... and I think that scrubbing Armstrong's record is ridiculous, as Dave Stocks there has made plain.
It's amazing that some people still think Indurain was clean in his 5 tour wins.
No, it's incredible that some people think he wasn't clear, you haven't run a tour so shut up
Dense much?
They made a competition of who could prepare himself the best.
Anyone who thinks Indurain was clean should educate themselves with books.
@@samuelharo5112 they don't accept somebody so strong and from spain it hurts
I actually wonder how much did indurain put an average wattage in this race.
THE BEST EVER AND FOREVER!
Un extraterrestre llamado Miguel Induráin 👽
That TT bike is epic by the way
Indurain has been the best cronoman of all times!
Miguel DopeDurain, one of the best dopers of all time. LOL
BeastAnd71 all cyclist are doped, so Induráin is the best
Bob Gardner demuestralo o calla la boca
The best cronoman Is Fabian Cancellara
Imaginemos que todos iban dopados no estaban todos en igualdad de condiciones ? Por lo tanto fin de la discusion indurain el mejor ciclista de su época y uno de los mejores de toda la historia
who will win at his best Indurain, Cancellara or Wiggins?
Bonkers, he went past Armstrong like he was standing still.
The bad old days!
For his height, Endurain had such great TT form....he looks very comfortable in that position.
Indurain got me into bike racing, he had such an incredibly fluid and powerful style in the time trial, utterly demolish everything around him. If you go back and watch the world championship in 1993 that Lance won, look at Indurains face on the podium, he looked annoyed. I think he wanted to prove a point here and demolish Armstrong, thats why he started so fast. Either way, what a brilliant TDF winner. Legendary.
@ Farlight - I agree, you're right. Lance was really lucky to win the '93 Worlds, because they let him get away, because he was just a 21-year-old nobody. That's why Indurain was so pissed and wanted to prove a point in the '94 Tour TT and catch him (2-minute man ahead) so quickly and humiliate the brash arrogant punk.
@@creativity.studio4967 lmaoo ain't no gifts in a one day race. Lance was barely 21 bro. If you had put them in their prime together indurain would get destroyed the same way Ulrich used to get his ass handed to him in the mountains.
@@abone2pick I am an Armstrong fan too, I think we are unlucky not to see these two in their prime fighting it out. No doubt Armstrong would have been incredible in the mountains, but with Time Trial performances like the 1992 Luxembourg TT (41 miles at an average speed of 31mph, insane) where Indurain put 3 mins into 2nd place, I doubt Armstrong would have won any TTs.... but, different story in the mountains. From a pure bike racing perspective, and nothing more, I miss watching either of them in their prime.
barely 21?? Omg are you fucking kidding??! He was almost 22
Indurain, la fiera humana
Was Indurain the race leader during this TT? If so, why is he not wearing yellow?
do you know if Miguel has ever been investigated, brought to questioning..?
Que barbaridad lo de Indurain, sacando 2min a tomy y 5 min al tercero....
Why u said that?
please explain it.
great
looks like MotoGP race
AXA AXA :)
nice
he was genetically designed for cycling. Just ashame everyone around him has said they had doped. It asks the question?
And also suspected that Indurain rode saving energies until last kilometer LOL
Miguel was capable of 510Watt for more than 1 hour, nobody even today can do near that.
I think he was capable up to 550 watts. Guy was a monster
That’s sick if true.
this is what drugs do to you
Armstrong's was allegedly 500 watts for 30-40 minutes. He was also a much smaller guy compared to Indurain though, so his w/kg were equal or better.
Big mig. The man.
When did Lance first use EPO? When did Indurain first use EPO?
*What does the different back wheel do for the bike?*
Literally Hitler do people use those tires for daily riding and training around the neighborhood?
@Literally Hitler thanks man. I just got back into biking with a 2021 ALR4 and while the gravel tires are decent (already got 1 flat and had to walk home 3+ miles because I'm an idiot and don't carry spares LOL), I'd like to get some carbon wheels just because I like the way they look. Not sure how durable road tires are around the streets though. If I got a flat with gravel tires on the streets...
What event? And, will they all have the same "preparation"?
Fernando read our full discussion before piping up. I never said Armstrong didnt dope, he clearly did, I said he never officially tested positive.
what age was Armstrong that day?
...INDURAIN EN ESA CONTRARELOJ IBA COMO UN TIRO...TIENE TELA PARA SACARLES 2 MINUTOS A LOS MEJORES CONTRARELOJISTAS DEL MOMENTO...!
Iba dopado en ese entonces Amstrong?
You're accusing Gianni Bugno, Tony Rominger, Zenon Jaskula, Piotr Ugrumov (all of them podium in the 5 Tour de France that Indurain won), and hundreds of cyclist that rode the Tour de France those 5 years and who are not in the List of doping cases in cycling of the wikipedia.
Indurain was the best time-trial specialist in modern history, but Armstrong didn't fight to win Tour de France before 1999, he fought to win one-day races, like Fleche Wallonne, Liege-Bastogne-Liege and World Championship and he was world champion in 1993 in Oslo.
He lost weight after cancer and he won his first Tour in 1999.
Perhaps Armstrong did not even committed to win that time-trial stage and he was already thinking about the next stages.
ceccomyth Lance said he was going full gas. In Lance's first 4 tours he only finished 1, he wasn't a climber, he struggled when stages were over 200k. He wasn't a contender in any way for the overall until he came back from cancer and won with his first attempt.
Yeah his 1993 world championship on road racing meant nothing. You people talk out of your ass 99% of the time on RUclips. It's worse than facebook
The World Championship is a one day race. Prior to his cancer, Lance was known for focusing on the one day classics, as mentioned above. It wasn't until his return to the sport that he focused on the TdF instead.
The TdF has reduced the length of the time trial stages too much. They were perhaps a bit too long in this era and somewhere in the middle would be best. The gold standard time trial length is 40km and that would be ideal for grand tour time trial stages.
BIG MIG TOTAL POWER,,,,, AND HE CAN CLIMB WELL
Indurain was a fucking bully, best of the best! Spanish POWER! HAIL THE KING! Also a friendly racer, He gave away the stage when his opponents cooperated with him, a good racer, a better human being. Merckx and Big Mig the best ever. you just sit, relax and enjoy THE GREAT SPANISH GENETICS & PERFORMANCE FROM A simple and humble MAN with big HEART FROM VILLABA. No Joke, No doubt- THE MAN WHO MADE US ALL DREAM & LOVE CYCLING.. Big triade: Merckx, Indurain and Pantani till now....
Only two years Bjarn Riis had a 62 hermocrit! Dude, it as evolving but definitly on a smaller percentage of riders.
But didn't Lance pass all his tests for hemocrit under 50. I think that the hemocrit vacation showed up during the Indurian years. Let me check...
Wow Indurain was 5km ph faster that Zulle that is like two different species its like a cheetah vs a horse