ERIC BISCHOFF: "I DON'T GET WHY BRET HART HATES ME"
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Eric Bischoff is blown away at how much Bret Hart seems to hate him and his time in WCW, considering the money, time and effort Eric invested in Hart.
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“I took arguably the biggest star at WWF and turned him into another nWo lackey. Gee, I wonder why he doesn’t like me ?”
facts
And paid him 2.5 million a yr for 5 yrs to work a 3rd of the dates he did at wwf. Bret was about money or he wouldn't have left wwf. Guess he should've stayed if wcw was so bad if he would rather been a top face.
@@mrchimera2001ify Bret left wwe because Vince said I cannot afford to pay you. Bret took less money to stay with Vince
Except that in reality Bret was the worst drawing WWF Champion of the 90's, who still holds the distinction of headlining the worst drawing WWF PPV of all time and drawing the lowest crowds at the MSG, Meadowlands, Maple Leaf Garden and Saddledome (that's in Calgary, btw) of ANY WWE Champion in the entire history of the promotion.
And then he debuts on Nitro and the show overall does 0.5 less in the ratings than the previous episode and the quarter rating for his debut shows that people were actively changing the channel.
Gee, i wonder why WCW didn't do much with him. Maybe because he never drew a fucking dime and was utterly worthless, to the point were all the moment of the Screwjob instantly vaporized?
@@ShadowAngel-lt8nw the worst drawing champion was diesel. Just lying I see Vince kept going to Bret because all of Vince’s projects were failing until stone cold who Bret was the central figure in becoming a star.
I think a lot of it is Bret keeps getting asked the same questions over and over and it brings the emotions back to the surface. Bischoff should be able to relate, as every time he’s asked about Hart (or Russo or Cornette or any number of other talent he’s worked with that ended poorly) he clearly has to work through his own negative emotions. Kind of a vicious cycle that is an unfortunate byproduct of these never ending shoot interviews.
Yeah, especially when Bret also had a stroke
His feelings could just come out, because he’s been holding it inside for many years
Bret's Triple H comment was from YEARS ago before the new WWE Boom even started. He's said nothing about Triple H in recent times.
"Inside the ropes" and other RUclips channels reupload OLD interviews constantly, and people take it as NEW information.
Bret doesn't hate Eric. Simply; Bret Hart ended his own career by choosing to go to WCW, and he hates himself for allowing himself.... and allowing everyone around him.... to help him do it.
If only he was able to accept this and be accountable, then maybe he wouldn’t be a miserable prick.
Bret didn't 'choose' to go to WCW, though. He had signed a 20 year contract with WWF in 1996. It was Vince McMahon who told him he was going to break the contract and he should go to WCW. Bret didn't want to leave but felt he had no choice.
@@Bernicia295This 👍🏻
@@Bernicia295 Bret was a grown-up, responsible for his own actions & bad actions & inactions. Bret CHOSE to handle his contract-situation in a specific way. Bret CHOSE to go to WCW. Bret chose to allow Eric's directorial command. Bret chose to work with Bill Goldberg. Bret's decisions.
@@mkocinema2012 I see. You don't want to listen to facts. Not much point in continuing this discussion then.
Someone very close to me had a major stroke and for 8 years before they passed, I seen how their mind worked. If he hated something before hand, he forever hated it. And it was always fresh to him. If he loved it, same thing. Like his mind was forever set. I'm not surprised by brets attitude towards his past. I've seen it before
Bret lost his brother due to complete negligence from his former employer, his marriage fell apart, and his career ended due to a reckless linebacker being allowed to be in the ring with him.
It would take a very strong person to NOT be as a bitter as he has become.
This is a fair statement.
Accidents happen Goldberg apologized over and over and Bret said he forgave him than starts his crap again
It’s been over 20 years, that resentment just rots your soul.
Oh please.
There is always risk in wrestling, and very few people walk away from the business in good shape, much less live past the age of 50....let alone even have money in the bank to retire.
Owen's tragic accident is sad, but just about everyone has someone in their life that they lost far too early to unnatural circumstances. Let's not forget that when Bret met with Vince soon after the event, Bret's focus of the conversation was about getting the rights to video likeness of himself (Bret). Vince allegedly secretly taped the conversation.
As far as his marriage falling apart, that's on Bret. His justifies his infidelity in his autobiography, and seems to be very proud of himself any time he was able to hook up, like it's some noble achievement.
Fact of the matter is, Bret doesn't have anything to give, or at least doesn't want to. It's left him in a state where he just reflects upon his career and stews about every bad thing that happened to him, as if he didn't have agency in his own actions.
@@doddsino
Drive a car with faulty breaks, and not blame the manufacturer
His career was cut short in WCW I can't imagine why he would have bad feelings about it. Even if he never got hurt in WCW they didn't book him well. The only thing I remember about Bret in WCW is he helped Nash win that triple cage match.
And how would you book one of the worst draws in wrestling? Even with all the momentum from the Screwjob, Bret didn't draw shit as shown by his debut, that Nitro drew 0.5 leess in the ratings than the previous episode. People were changing the channel during his debut already.
It's weird how Bret doesn't hate Vince McMahon more. I can name two HUGE reasons why he should.
Without Vince, Bret would have no legacy. I don't agree with a lot of the ethical/business decisions Vince has made over the years, but Vince is the most important man in wrestling history. As far as the Montreal screw-job and Bret dropping the title, Vince probably could have handled it differently, but I can't really blame him for that. Bret's unwillingness to drop the title to Shawn when he's on his way out was ethically wrong against wrestling tradition.
Hart had an express term in his WWF contract which gave him “reasonable”creative control for his final 30 days if he ever left the company.
He proposed several different solutions for dropping the title before leaving- which would be considered ‘reasonable’ in the legal sense.
McMahon already breached Hart’s contract and then ignored the specific creative control term (breaching AGAIN) because his intent was to fuck Hart up before he left for WCW.
Contracts, laws and regulations won’t stop McMahon!
Edit to add a missed word!
Why would you give this conrad con man a single penny?
@@FurQ69 I don't lol
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 it says your a member ?
It's not a surprise. He goes from feuding with Stone Cold and Shawn Michaels for the WWF title to being a midcarder in WCW. He never got to wrestle Hogan or the top tier of WCW wrestlers until Russo got there.
Because he was a really bad worker, refused do wthat boss and coworkers demanding.
@@user-sc6cn6sj2y Give examples.
Eric said Bret wasn't a draw after he booked him against a horrible wrestler who ended his career
I don't think like Bret. Thinking negativity has never helped me but people who call Bret a bitter baby etc have 0 empathy
Bret never was a draw anywhere, but in his mind he thinks he was Hulk Hogan. That was the problem with Bret, he never (wanted to) realized that he is basically a midcarder who had a lot of luck in the WWF because Vince and Pat liked him and during the steroid trial he was the most normal looking guy on the roster.
Bret hart was the biggest star in the business when he came to WCW.
They screwed that up. Historically. Dropped the ball.
Then, not only to you screw hs career up. You put him with an untrained green dude who didn't just hurt him, he ended Brets career.
His brother died. His father died. Marriage fell apart.
Like. Yeah dude has a right to hate WCW.
I don't think Brets as bitter as people claim. But when you keep asking Bret to relive those moments, the moments he will always be asled about, screwjob, wcw failure, goldberg.
Would be hard not to be bitter when it gets brought up.
Like. Foreal what did Eric do when Bret was injured and sent home?
What did WCW do for him then?
They cut his contract and fucking fored him after WCW neglect lead to his career being ended.
Yeah. Sorry eric. You need to take responsibility for your actions and you never do in regards to bret. Ever.
There is an easy way for Bret to stop having to answer these questions: stop giving interviews. Or even have a secretary go over a list of taboo topics with the interviewer beforehand.
lol Bret was not the biggest star in wrestling at the time. WCW was kicking the WWF's butt at everything in 1997 and Bret was the top star in the WWF at the time. So the biggest stars in wrestling were Sting and the nWo.
Also it's the WWF that gave him and the screwjob and they are the ones that made the mistake leading to Owen's death.
More projecting and refusing to take responsibility from Eric. Bret lives rent free in Eric's head, otherwise there's nothing for Eric to talk about.
Eric he doesn't hate you. He said multiple times (when asked the same damn questions for over 20 years) that he thinks you and staff in WCW had hearts of gold and good people but in terms of his management, he doesn't agree and talks about it from a wrestling only viewpoint.
I don't agree with him about you in terms of WCW overall. You were the main reason WCW was successful. Bret doesn't understand that sort of management like you do.
But I think there's a lot of misunderstanding from Bret and yourself over Wrestling vs Personal from the interviews/podcasts a lot of us have heard.
Peace. No sides here. Big fan of you both.
Bret suffers from some mental health problem. That's obvious. I'm not an expert so I can't say which, but it seems like some type of Bipolar Disorder. Bret can openly praise and gush about someone in one interview, and a few days later totally roast that person and say that same person is the scum of the Earth.
I think that is why most people don't take what he says seriously when he is dragging them.
In Eric's defense, Bret is not ignorant to how the business works. He's the son of Stu Hart who ran a successful federation for decades, and was Vince's right hand man for 5 years. Anyone that close to Vince knows everything about how management works in this business. Bret just wants things HIS way and when it doesn't go HIS way, he loses it. He needs help, but his pride will not allow him to get the help that he needs.
very well put. everyone needs to stop arguing and try to move on. both were huge parts of wrestling history. bret always said eric was there for him when owen passed. you hear the good with the bad with bret. eric needs to stop beign so sensitive himself and move on.
To be fair when did bret ever say they have hearts of gold ? Whenever k hear him speak it’s him saying they were all morons. And that’s about it
@@vvpodcast4403 There's a few on Inside The Ropes/Title Match Wrestling and some other Full interviews in the UK (Manchester I think). I've watched dozens so apologies that I can't pinpoint exact one.
Bret's Triple H comment was from YEARS ago before the new WWE Boom even started. He's said nothing about Triple H in recent times.
"Inside the ropes" and other RUclips channels reupload OLD interviews constantly, and people take it as NEW information.
Buries Bret at every opportunity for years and wonders why he doesn't get compliments back
Bret is very bitter. I understand his fans thinks he’s Jesus but be a little fair
He buries bret, because bret has been burying Eric for the past 15 years until Eric finally decided to respond
@@gerardovega4641 lol finally my ass, I've heard him belittle Bret over and over for years, same with Bruce Prichard. Hart speaks nothing but facts while ATM Eric is full of bs like he is on any topic. Weak attempts to cover his own ass for giving millions of Turners money to completely waste one of the top stars of all time.
@@minechaftgamer288 WRONG. try again
@@gerardovega4641 great comeback, Meltzer!
Bret Hart is absolutely a kind and accomplished human being. He has been through so much in his life. And I think he is still hurting from certain situations where he needs to take out that anger and hurt on people.
I'm a bret fan, and usually agree with things he says, his problem is, he sugar coats nothing, he has no filter, and speaks his mind, wether he's right or not is questionable, but it upsets others hearing the truth being so raw.
I don't think that's true at all. I'm a fan of Bret the performer, but not a fan of Bret the person. Because Bret the person keeps bringing up the same things OVER AND OVER AND OVER. He's not wrong about the things he says. He just says them so often, and says nothing but these things that after a while it becomes tiresome.
Yes, Goldberg kicked you in the head. Yes Goldberg was green as shit, and probably shouldn't have been put in that position. Yes, it ended your career.......well guess what. Droz was paralyzed in that same time period. For decades Droz would say he understood it was an accident. Droz held no ill feelings towards D-Lo Brown. Droz remained in positive spirits until the day he died. Bret can walk. Bret can do acting. Bret can do any number of things. He's lived a great life all things told. But all he wants to say is "WCW was the worst. Goldberg kicked me. Vince McMahon screwed me. Shawn Micheals screwed me. HHH screwed me. Loyds of London screwed me."
After a while, you stop feeling any sympathy you may have had for him, because he's just bitter. Look at Conan O Brian. He had the Tonight Show for all of 7 months before NBC took it back to give it back to Jay Leno. And when he was asked about it in media, his response was always "Don't be cynical".
Bad things happen to good people. Happens all the time. You can either get through it, or you can sulk. Bret CHOOSES to sulk for the past 25 years.
He's not wrong.....he's just an asshole.
@@Lostmymind1 at least you’re fair
@Lostmymind1 it's said so often because he's asked the questions so often. 😆
@@lee.valley Bret once did some acting on a western called Lonesome Dove. It was a TV show.
The question he was asked was if he ever wanted to transition more permanently around that time to acting over wrestling.
He ended his answer by complaining about Goldberg. Completely unrelated. Goldberg was a football player in 1994. Wasn't even part of WCW in any way. Yet somehow Bret talking about a TV show from 1994, and why he didn't go into acting full time, ended with him complaining about Goldberg not knowing what he was doing.
The marks on this channel are something else. What Bret went through is widely known by everyone. Everyone thinks Bret should get over it. 1. He just answers questions he is asked. He could be over it but still have negative opinions on it. I will never say anything good about wcw 2000. That doesnt mean im bitter about it and think about it all the time. 2. And this is more important, who the Fuck are you? You want to tell Bret what he should feel but then you come here and constantly complain about Conrad or the Channel. Get over it.
I completely agree! I shouldn't even read these comments as they're so frustrating and annoying. I think a lot of these people must be either very young with not much life experience or otherwise they're just completely lacking in normal human compassion and empathy.
Exactly. It's all the obsessed bret haters. The can't see clearly through all the weird hatred they have towards him.
But those same people justify Bischoff's continued hatred towards Vince Russo
@@kevinlee9929 I mean, Russo is a jackass but it's the same thing in a way, yea. Get over it Eric, you must be bitter.
Is that you Bret? 😂
All the folks who say Bret is obsessed with his past and is still bitter about it seem equally obsessed with Bret himself.
Irony...
It's because he won't shut the hell up about it, so everyone has no choice but to listen.
@@joethedoorguy no choice but to listen 😭 someone putting a gun to your head forcing you to listen to Bret
WCW even mourned the passing of Yokozuna and Gorilla Mosoon on Nitro. They were always classier than the WWF, in my book.
Nobody is more classless than wwe that’s a low bar
Because you don’t have much integrity & are incompetent..next question...
Couldn't disagree more with this unimformed and foolish statement. I've done business deals with Eric in real life and outside the public eye, and I'd be hard pressed to think of someone with more integrity or professionalism than Eric. A really good dude who went above and beyond to assist me and my family during our dealings.
I can think of a few legitimate reasons, Eric.
Like it or not Eric talks more shit on Bret than Bret does on Eric. All of Brets comments on Eric are based on events that actually happened. Eric had weaknesses in his job, he points them out, so what’s the big deal
Exactly. Bret only really seems to mention Eric when being specifically interviewed about his time in WCW. Eric, on the other hand, has spent weeks ranting about Bret in his podcasts and making personal comments about him looking miserable etc. Somebody needs to remind Eric that Bret did actually have a stroke.
I m3an, he called Eric a maggot thats kinda personal. Ive never heard Eric say anything like that about Bret
Because you Don't take enough accountable for the things you did like the mishandling of Bret, Goldberg, and giving Hulk Hogan creative control
Please, give us some examples of where Eric Bischoff has stated that he *NEVER* made mistakes running WCW.
@@D2Kprimehe blames sting for starracde. He said making nash the booker was the right thing when nash has made it known he did not care about the company. The finger poke of doom and nash ending Goldberg’s streak never given a straight answer on who’s idea was that and who booked it
@@D2Kprime I'm not saying he did not say that he made mistakes. I'm saying that when it comes to certain mistakes like hogans creative control card that he should not have ever been able to play, or Bret Harts run there not being as good as it could have Been, he takes not no accountable for the damage cause by Hogans creative control and in Brets case hs blames Bret completely and seems to take offense to being called out for it, and in speaking of the Hart family did he ever take accountability for the Bulldog situation at fall brawl 97?
Bret has been clear about it. He felt EazyE signed him without having a plan at all about how to use him just because it created waves after the screw job. I am not saying Bret is legit in holding this grudge 25 years later, but WCW indeed did not use him well to say the least lol
Well, when he is constantly interviewed about the most negative times in his life, I can't see him doing backflips over it. WCW killed his career, there is no way around that.
Ok mrs hart
@@joetamburello6292 Kind of funny.
@@mattpjournalist well you have to blame Bret too. He seemed like a shell of himself. In fairness to Eric he didn’t have a great plan for Bret but Bret didn’t contribute like he did in wwf with ideas
@joetamburello6292 He looked ready to go to me when he came in. In ring was solid. WCW ruined a lot of people, even their own guys. I don't think he was ever a shell of himself, but he was marginalized pretty quickly. It's too bad though, WCW was awesome and he was coming in hot. Just wasn't going to work.
@@mattpjournalist completely disagree. Obviously you’re a hardcore Bret fan so it’s always someone else’s fault but I just try to be fair. Sure WCW didn’t book him great but he wasn’t the same and that’s on him. He should take ownership too
After what happened with Owen what did everyone expect of Brett? Guy literally watched his brother die over absolute stupidity and greed, and to make things they kept the damn ppv going like nothing happened!! Ya'll need to put yourselves in his shoes. You people have any idea what something like that does to people
It is horrible that the accident happened, but you can't get mad at Vince for keeping the show going. The business is bigger than one person. I don't mean that to sound callus, but it's ttrue.
@@douggoins2960 i get the business, but facts are a man horribly died, show should have been ended at that exact moment. Wrestling fans would not have said a thing about and would have been more worried about Owen n his family than a stupid show. Cant blame Vince? Entire thing was his idea and doing, Owen did not want to do it at all. Vince was behind every single aspect of wwe, and other insanely deranged ideas. Lets not forget about his trials still going on. Owen died because of vinces greed and control issues, as well as crappy equipment handlers changing the equipment. No different than what happened to Brandon Lee, or Alec Baldwin murdering that poor woman.
He went back to WWF with his tail tucked between his legs. He forgave Vince but talks crap about Martha Hart. Give me a break.
Can Eric get a new co host or whatever..
Keep crying and get over it
Owen beating bret at mania 10 is one of biggest pops as a wrestling fan. I loved Owen and even as a bret fan loved seeing Owen get that big win.
Bret could have had another 10 years' worth of great matches had he not been injured. Nobody would have been better at adjusting their style to suit their age than him. If he's bitter, I don't blame him. He still had so much to offer.
Bret was such an innovator. People forget about him doing suicide dives, table spots, bringing the ladder match to the WWF, his super creative match with Diesel, the ring post figure four spot, etc.
If Bret does indeed think he knows wrestling better than anybody, it's because, well... he likely does.
I wouldn’t say 10 but probably yea maybe 6
Literally the best in ring worker there ever was
Eric has ridiculous takes
The crazy thing is in my opinion Bret's first year was pretty impressive considering how overbooked WCW was at that time, just think how big guys like Sting, DDP, Goldberg, Nash, among others were getting at that time when two NWO factions were happening. He got to be involved in the Starrcade '97 main event, his first match at a payperview the following month was beating THE MAN Ric Flair, the following payperview Hart got to work with and beat one of his most respected opponents Curt Hennig, same a couple months later with Randy Savage,then main event more than one payperview over the following months (Great American Bash, Fall Brawl) while elevating the US title higher than it had been for a long while.
Other often forgotten facts in 1998, Bret FINALLY got a match with Hogan on a Nitro (which he didn't lose!) and beat Sting (face of the franchise!) at Halloween Havoc, then got to finish '98 working with one of the company's top names in Dallas as he closed that first year US Champion. Thst whole first year he was front and center working with most of the company's top names.
Other than making Bret's character a bit bipolar with his vague ties to the NWO throughout Spring-Autumn of '98 I personally think that first year was very impressive for him, pretty much the ONLY two remarkable things he didn't do were win the World title and actually beat Hulk... but in my opinion he didn't NEED those acolytes. To me personally the only time his career felt mediocre in WCW were the early months in '99 prior to his "steel plate" promo with Goldberg.
Smokey the Cat was a bad influence on Bret. He hissed whenever Eric was on the phone with Bret.
Those promos about Smokey were gold.
Say what you want about Bret in WCW, but his promo game was awesome.
🤣🤣! NICE!!
Bret did a bowling tourney in Stockton and he complained on tv about getting screwed on his bowling shoes. They gave him a mural too.
It’s very interesting. Bret predicting (or manifesting?) that his career would end in tragedy. I know from my own experience that, for some of us, once we say something out loud, it almost.. grows legs. He said he didn’t know what he wanted to do with his life. Perhaps this very promo was quite literally the beginning of the end.
Bret's issue with Eric is that he sucked creatively when he was at WCW and didn't have a good plan in place for Bret's career.
I find it funny how Bret and Eric saw one another recently and, according to Eric, they were both cordial with each other.
Could it be the stroke thats affecting Brets emotions? Just a theory
Strokes can definitely do that and Bret has talked about how the part of his brain that controls emotions was damaged, as well as affecting his ability to smile properly. But also, Bret has often said that he has no problem with Eric as a person. As far as I know, his only recent comments about Eric were in the Who Killed WCW documentary where he was being specifically asked about his experiences at WCW.
Are you serious? He thinks Bret is damaged and bitter and that he should get over things done to him or as admit to being culpable. That Bret isn't happy. He has and I think is happy. Look at his attractive girlfriend. He's got money and just about 85% of fans think he's the best that includes wrestlers - old, contemporary to Bret and new. Just because Bret gives an unvarnished opinion about WCW and Eric and Goldberg doesn't mean he's not over it. He even gave a good simile about carrying rocks which represent the BS he's gone through and finally letting it go. That doesn't mean he's going to give some sweet BS answers when asked questions about that time in his life.
Exactly. People seem to think Bret just sits around all day feeling bitter and miserable. He doesn't - he gets on with life, but when he is asked a question in an interview he gives an honest answer.
This. He gest asked to relive bad memories. What is he suppose to do? Pretend that stuff was peachy keen? Like nah.
Eric is always an assholebwhen Bret gets brought up and its because, lets be honest, Bret hart is one of Erics biggest failures at WCW. He dropped the ball. He didn't have creative for BRET HART the biggest star in the industry when they got him.
Eric never wants to consider where hes coming from. Just wants him to shut up about it.
Yes everyone these days think Bret is the GOAT. But Owen was way better than Bret. Been several times where Bret even said so himself.
He is bitter
@@Unitenotfight That's a horse of a different color. Up to opinion and can be debated. But I don't think he is bitter or hateful or is holding onto the past.
Brett just was at the top in WWE. He never was in WCW. Goldberg had the look but he couldn’t wrestle
When they had the Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit match in memory of Owen it was not the main event that night on NITRO. That went to Hulk Hogan (of course) and Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger and Sting.
Of course! Owen wasn't even WCW guy, so of course they didn't make a huge deal of his death or the people would've gotten sad & confused and turned the channel to watch WWE to find out more. Small tribute to a fallen colleague is the right way, just like when Gorilla Monson died, except this time you had Bret & another Canadian willing to have a tribute match, so Owen got a little more.
Maybe because you (and Goldberg) ended his career.
1) It’s Bischoff’s fault that Goldberg became a mark who thought he was really beating people up & it ended Bret’s career. He couldve died from the stroke 2) Its obvious Bischoff didnt give a damn about Owen when he let sting continue the stupid stunt. 3) Bischoff was more focused on hogan and a few friends, and didnt have anything for Bret and most of the locker room. The fact Bret’s first deal in wcw was to be a ref says it all. Bischoff was both uninterested and also untalented enough to do something with one of the best ever. 4) Bischoff had no business running wcw. Hes a slimey salesman who talked his way into the position, had some fortune for a while but ultimately ended up running it into the ground. It’s 100% his fault wcw went out of business, the only major company besides the one that killed his brother.
What absolute nonsense
Trust me Eric there's less and less people Drinking the Bret Hart Kool-aid too
Bret doesnt hate Eric. He hates Bill Goldberg
Bret hate is real. He’s been battling that for years. It’s not funny anymore it’s really sad.
Bret lost everything he know and loved while in WCW. A hack wrestler ended his career, and acts like that guys should just get over it. I play guitar and cut my hand before and had to relearn to use my fretting hand. I was miserable because it's what I loved. You listen to Bret he loves/loved the business, he was proud of what he did. Eric you had to take in the fact that he was not used well in WCW, you have said that he was not a good character and only good for in ring work. As someone who watched WCW before Bret was there, I wasn't ever there for Hogan or Nash. Hall yes, that guy could work, but what had me watch was in ring work of the cruiser weights. Bret should have been pair with guys that could really go in the ring. You could have gave us Bret vs Eddie Guerrero, instead you make him stand behind Hogan and have him do now run ins. That is a waste and where is Bret wrong about that?
"A hack wrestler", Goldberg was arguably bigger wrestler than Bret & he definitely was when they had their match. Obviously not when it comes to skills, but he was a huge star, he could connect with the audience. That is probably the reason why Bert is so bitter to him, Goldberg achieved so much with way less effort than Bret.
Fact is Bret didn't want to go to WCW...even for the big contract...Money doesn't solve everything...and he really regrets it..and as fans...we do too..Just think..Bret in the wwe in 2000s..and the matches he would have..against the rock,triple h,more HBK ,Cena,Angle,etc..
Where do I find the Strictly Business episode where he interviews the psychologist? I wanna hear that
The problem with Eric is he turns criticisms Bret has about Eric's ability to book and smarts of the wrestling business (or lack thereof) and takes it personal. He's very passive-aggressive with his responses to Bret and talks about Bret being unhappy with life and how miserable he is as a person. That's not my reading when he criticizes Eric. At all. Bret gets asked questions and he answers them. He doesn't change his story or stances; should he maybe tell interviewers he's over it already? Perhaps but to say he's unhappy with life because he keeps criticizing the way you fumbled having a red hot Bret Hart character? Seems a bit of a stretch Eric
He explicit has said he doesn’t hate Bischoff smh
Finally we would love to hear your side and if possible any untold back stage occurrences that the public hasn’t heard about yet. Thank you Eric
Bret criticized Triple H? Mr Bischoff u crack me up😂. Bret is a standup guy and pro wrestling is his religion, he lived and breathed it, mastered it, and can teach it. He is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. Bret is a success. Critics are our best teachers, they’ll tell u like it is and pull no punches. It’s up to us to make changes and level up. BTW, I completely disagree about the second golden age of wrestling being called the Attitude or Nitro Era. It was the nWo Era or Cliq Era. The top talents in pro wrestling the Cliq, ie, Nash, Hall, Michaels, Trips, 123 Kid, China were the top draws including the biggest name turned heel Hulk Hogan. Thank you Mr Bischoff for the nWo Era! 👏🏽🙌🏽👍🏽
True I love Bret keeps it real
Not a bret fan at all, but his wcw was a mess. Hogan had him buried behind close doors.
Triple H not even the man behind everything it’s Nick Khan.
Because he was poorly booked, including against an unsafe, green worker that put the nail in the coffin of his career?
Yep
Horseshit
Exactly. Eric is just daft
Bret worked about 13 matches after the Goldberg match... But he knows it was the Starcade one that finished him off?
@@MotherHen2012 He wouldn't have lasted 13 matches with Goldberg. Problem with Goldberg is that he was/is so strong/powerfull, even a small botch move could lead to a serious injury to another wrestler. Goldberg was too green to be operating like that (no room for error).
I remember wondering if WCW was doing this because Owen died on WWF programming, and WWF was obviously not mentioning it... It was a nice gesture, but it was also to make public the other guys messed up badly and it cost someone their life. They also did a tribute match for Owen in Kansas City with Bret Vs Benoit. They liked bringing up Owen and part of that I'm sure is due to the circumstances. I'm from right down the road of Kemper Arena, where Owen died. It is a very run-down facility and area now. Most of the big sporting events have moved elsewhere.
I don’t get why Eric STILL talks about Bret. They don’t like each other, move on ERIC. Bret said his piece on Eric on who killed WCW and Eric defended himself. Eric find a new topic.
how do we know bret doesn't put his feet up and watch others get triggered by the things he says and has a good laugh about it, he's a smart guy.
Bret keeps it real
@@pleaseshutup7053 bullshit
@@pleaseshutup7053 Exactly he has been consistent and honest that all I can ask of him - People may call him bitter but he is just answering the questions that been asked of him and doesn't sugar-coat it.
I watched his interview on legamania and enjoyed it telling stories and laughing.
I’d love to have seen Bret Hart and Ole Anderson do a podcast together 😂
Bret is a perfectionist who does not accept anything less than the best. I think this is part of the cause of his conflict with others.
Bret is right about almost everything - as is Eric. This is one the few times Eric is being obtuse. From day 1… special referee Bret Hart?? lol. You took a guy whose entire gimmick is great wrestling… and decided his debut should be… not wrestling. Making Bret a HUGE PLAYER in wcw would have been so absurdly easy. Have him come out and cut a first promo - about the clown show nwo… and how much he hates all of them, especially hogan. Short and sweet… realistic… and then have him announce that one by one he’s going to defeat and humiliate every single one of them in the ring - because they’re too busy partying and posing to remember what pro wrestling actually is. Then have Bret storm through the lower ranks, putting on technical exhibitions and submitting the low level nwo guys. Then one or two top ones. Now you have so many instant feuds storylines setup with the top nwo guys. It’s a no brainer and people would have loved it. It requires no character change for Bret. In fact he’s best in promos where he keeps it real and simply says he’s the best wrestler. You could kill 3 years with him against the top nwo guys alone. Meanwhile nwo finally has a serious credible threat that. Wcw has a defender. Its extends the nwo lifespan too. Nobody could outmuscle or out-cool the nwo - and they had everyone in it! But they could be outwrestled by a Bret Hart. Coudl have had Benoit and others join him. Now it’s the cool kids vs the jocks…. A real battle.
This would’ve been a great long term storyline, however, Eric gave his BFF a certain condition in his contract in which that wouldn’t work for him, brother!
Zzzzz
Excellent, I found it hard to book bret after survivor series 1997
Hindsight is a great thing
@@TribalChief3000 well I’m not convinced Hogan was the problem - he’s not nearly the problem a lot of weird corney/meltzer cultist believe.. but doesn’t matter. Even if he doesn’t ever want to wrestle Bret, or lose to Bret, you can still do everything but… Bret vs Nash/savage/luger/konnan/hall/steiner.. whoever… and the angle overall is who’s going to stop him. There can even be internal friction: maybe some are afraid, some guys are ducking him - (maybe Hogan), maybe some are getting injured or taking repeated losses - “why the hell aren’t YOU going out there?” A guy like Steiner who wants to be the top dog and who is a big threat in the ring, maybe holds back, then after months finally steps up: looks like the real alpha male has to stop the pink boy. Honestly, If I gave it some thought maybe can come up with something really good, but even these very obvious angles that I make up as I frantically write this are fine! It writes itself lol! Maybe Luger after losing to Bret a couple times, remembers just how much he respected Bret before and realizes he’s sick of being nwo. Maybe x pac (can’t remember if he’s around a this point lol) or savage also becomes respectful of Bret and the others start questioning his loyalty, while he starts getting resentful that they expect him to match Bret. Maybe Konnan or bagwell have an epiphany and remember that what they really wanted when they started was to become a great wrestler in the ring…. I dunno.. the possibilities are endless…
Eric’s 1000% rite. Bret is a sad hateful person. It’s sad he is that way.
Oh look. Another hypocritical video moaning about Bret Hart.
I don't know why Bischoff is surprised - His run in WCW was disappointing having him join up with Hogan was a terrible idea as it didn't benefit him. Too many swerves turning on Sting, Goldberg and the old age outlaws.
I wish they could get hart and bischoff together.
if Bret would have retired here he could have come back in a couple of years and none of the concussion stuff would have happened. If only....
We all have that one job.
As smart as Bret always appears to be in the business, he always seemed to make the worse decisions for his personal career. I still don’t know why he believed he was gonna be a top guy in WCW. Hogan was never gonna put him over, Hall and Nash are HBK guys, Sting and Goldberg were the top baby faces, and you had quite a bit of younger talent. I don’t see how he thought that was gonna be a great career move. The only positive was the pay, not much else.
Bret hart blames everybody for everything but himself
I would pay to see Bret Hart and Greg Gagne do a Q&A with Eric Bischoff as the moderator. 🤣
Brett was a great wrestler, probably one of the best ever, though I do think Brett has at times misplaced anger. Vince is probably who he should be most angry at though. One thing leads to another. He was a WWF wrestler and WCW didn't seem to be a fit to me. Goldberg, though reckless. I don't think did anything intentionally. It's just unfortunate.
Brat Hart hates everybody because he refuses to be accountable for his bad decisions. He's nothing but a big whiny baby who throws tantrums whenever he doesn't get his way.
From a humanistic standpoint...I believe Bret never wanted to leave WWE, but he knew they were losing ground to WCW and probably felt he had done all there was to do in WWE. It was easier for Vince to let him go because of that, and because he still had HBK. Then the Montreal Screwjob happened and it made Bret's departure even worse for WWE, but good for WCW. It was no secret that Bret was leaving for WCW. But this is probably the momentum and potential for multiple storylines that WCW didn't take advantage of. I think it all started with Bret's debut, during a Nitro? And being introduced as the guest referee or enforcer, or whatever role he had. His debut was lacklaster, his new theme music sucked, and it was kind of just like, meh. The problem was, Bret went to the hottest wrestling organization during the time. WCW had EVERYONE! Hogan, Sting, Flair, Hall, Nash, their cruiserweights, NWO, Goldberg, even Bobby the Brain and Mean Gene. Bret was a traditionalist, he prioritized the wrestler, and the storytelling, and the art of doing both. Bischoff and WCW wasn't about that. They were making money and trying to put WWE out of business. They did it with star power, but aside from the NWO storyline, they had nothing else. And when that storyline fizzled out, they had nothing to fall back on. WCW wrestlers started seeing the new WWE product. Chris Jericho's amazing debut in 1999, the Radikalz, everyone started jumping ship to WWE. But back to Bret....when he went to WCW, it was not his forte. It was like sending Tom Hanks, Denzel Washington, or Robert DeNiro (3 of the greatest actors ever) to do movies for a local community college film class. Bret was paid huge, but misused. But it wasn't all Eric's fault. Eric had too many top stars (especially Hogan) pressuring him from all angles. While all this was happening, WWE was on its way to becoming the juggernaut that it is now through the Attitude Era. Enter Stone Cold and The Rock....it was all downhill for WCW when that happened. Eric is the 2nd most influential wrestling personality in the sport, behind Vince. I loved watching WCW and what he did to revolutionize the industry. There were just too many hands in the cookie jar, too many egos, too much talent and not enough television time.
In terms of that psychologist finding out why we watch wrestling, it's more than conflict and resolution. It's a way to let your freak flag fly. If you go to a supermarket, you can't walk around shirtless, yell at the customers, or throw the clerk into the shelves. But in wrestling, not only is that behavior acceptable, it's expected.
How would you book Bret after survivor series 1997? The Sting and Hogan feud was coming to a conclusion so maybe it would have been better to bring him in the following year in January 1998...
Somewhere - Bruce Hart is cutting a promo on Bret.
Some guys hate for no reason..capisce - Gazzo
W.C.W. was walking on a "Goldmine." Bret should have ended Goldberg's streak, Bret should have defeated Hogan cleanly, Bret should have headed a Stable, Bret should have wrestled a lot of other great wrestlers like Booker-T, what Eric Bischoff is leaving out is a lot of wrestlers had Political Power, due to Bischoff's obsession with getting the big names, and ultimately, even though the aftermath of the Screw Job could have fool proof catapulted Bret to the top, too much Political Power was at play.
This saddens me. I think Bret and Eric seem like decent blokes.
I think Bret probably regrets going to wcw. And frankly it probably was a mistake. But Vince couldn't pay his contract.
I can see why someone would hate you...its the smirk, the swarmy demeanor when you are being cocky, just ya know personality. I dont hate you but I can see it.
In the end, you're not going to please everyone. Just like life, there are some people you're not going to be able to get along with (thru no fault of either party).
Bret Hart is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be...and everyone in this f**king comment section knows it!
Bret Hart hates that the world continued without him.
And will blame EVERYONE except himself.
I always though he should have changed the name of his finisher from the "Sharpshooter" to "The Bitter Pill". Slaps that move on while he puts a Steven Regal like scowl on his face.
Bret "The Shitman" Fart - Excellence of Excuses
As a fan from the outset I can say that WCW was the Hulk Hogan Show. I can tell he had you under the thumb because of his creative clause and you may have been afraid to lose him given the business you pulled in during the NWO.
Yes, creatively a number of young WCW stars were misused including those that came from WWE like Bret because WCW had no idea how to use that talent, the same way Vince never knew how to use WCW talent in WWE at the time.
Considering, that everybody is trying to move forward. Bret needs to drop this bag of rocks in relation to WCW and Goldberg. It is what it is. You can't go back and change things. The only way now is to move forward and just let bygones by bygones. A lot of Bret's bitterness comes from self projection due to the tragic events that have traumatised him.
Also a lot of Bret's 'bitterness' comes from people asking him the same questions about WCW and Goldberg over and over again then reporting on his negative comments while ignoring the positive ones he makes.
Because you were incompetent and didnt know how to use your stars.
I don't understand all these "Why is Brett angry videos". It's obvious why he's angry. His dad's company was stolen from him. The business he grew up in and loved was completely destroyed by suits like you trying to make money off of his work. His brother was killed and his brain got damaged. It's insane that people have to ask why he's bitter. Nobody on Earth deserves to be bitter like Bret Hart does
I agree completely! I think some people are just incapable of putting themselves in someone else's shoes and thinking how they would feel if all of these things happened to them. Bret isn't even as bitter as people say anyway, in my opinion. Only when being interviewed about the worst moments of his life over and over again.
I would hate Eric Bischoff too if I was Bret Hart all Eric did was stroke Hogan’s ego he was Hulk Hogan’s cheerleader throughout Hogan’s WCW run he did not give a shit about the other talent don’t get me wrong The NWO angle was one of the best storylines in the history of pro wrestling without a shadow of doubt but after 1998 it started to get very stale and then the WWF started turning the tide in the ratings war they did not utilize Bret Hart correctly. They booked him very poorly matter of fact I can barely remember Bret Hart’s WCW career…. This is one of the reasons why Eric Bischoff is no longer in the wrestling business and he’s just doing these podcast living in the past because he made too many poor decisions and ultimately killed the WCW let’s be honest after 1998 was over Eric Bischoff was a has been and still is and his 2002-2005 WWE run wasn’t all that great
Why does anyone hate easy e
Starcadde 97 for one
The guy who praises himself for nWo and 83 weeks at number 1 didn't plan for 84 weeks. He took it to its highest highs and then it's lowest lows and doesn't accept responsibility for the lowest lows. Blames it on others even when he was back trying to work with Russo
He tried to put Vince out of business.
I hope Eric is wrong about Bret. Harboring bitterness is no way to live.
To be fair wrestling is a performance. Maybe Bret expresses the bitterness in interviews and lets it go otherwise. Hopefully for his sake.
He's definitely not as bitter as Eric says. I follow Bret's social media and he seems to lead a perfectly happy life with his family and friends, except when interviewed about certain unhappy subjects such as the screwjob and being kicked in the head.
Exactly lol like hes supposed to sit here and laugh about a company he worked so hard for screwing him or smile about the death of his brother or praise goldberg for injuring him lol @Bernicia295
I love the podcast but this is clickbait bs, bret has said many times that Eric is a great person but he thinks that wcw and Eric didn’t know what they were doing and history proved him right.
Brett is the greatest wrestler ever, but he also a crybaby
Bret was born into wrestling, and once he left it, couldn't that way out mentally. Same grudges, same anger.
I so yiu.never gave him..a decent run
when did they decide that 2024 was going to be a campaign to 'make bisch a victim'?
I don't believe Bret does 'hate' Eric. He has always said that he had no problem with Eric as a person - his criticism is that he doesn't think Eric knew what he was doing regarding the wrestling business and was too easily influenced by Hogan. Anyway, it seems to me that Eric is the bitter, miserable one. Bret is getting on with his life while Eric sits there constantly ranting about him on his podcast.
Because wcw was run like sht by sht people
Who would’ve thought the man who refers to himself as “the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be” has a BIT of an inflated ego? Brett’s getting high on his own supply, as well as showing all of us why you don’t.
i think bret's mind and his way of thinking has been altered due to his health issues, possibly a brain injury. Maybe he is saying things and isn't thinking clearly
Of course. He had post-concussion syndrome for more than a year after the Goldberg match, followed by a severe stroke in 2002. He has talked about how the stroke caused emotional problems. Eric and Conrad never seem to take that into account. Having said that, I don't think Bret is particularly bitter about life in general - only when he's being interviewed about the worst times of his life over and over again.
Brett just wants to be miserable. He made millions of dollars living his dream. He has a family wife, kids nice home, nice things.. but all he wants to do is cry about the past. His biggest problem is he is the biggest Brett Hart mark there is. He can't separate reality from kayfabe.
Funny he’s happily married to a hot wife and mentors todays wrestlers
@pleaseshutup7053 sure but instead of being happy about those things, he chooses to just cry about the past all the time
@@TORHABSFAN1if you actually listen to Bret interviews you will see most of what he says is praising todays wrestlers and wrestlers he use to work with. But what creates headlines is him keepin it real on his thoughts about Goldberg bischoff hhh and hogan. Bret keeps it real you see it as bitter because you don’t deal with these kind of people in real life. They are perfectly happy saying their real thoughts and don’t hold back
@pleaseshutup7053 all I hear is... Shawn Michael's was a pain in the ass, Vince screwed me. Bill Goldberg this, everyone in wcw was an idiot. This is the shits that was the shits. Today's belts are the shits. Triple H is an idiot. All the guy does is cry. He is the most bitter human being on earth
Lol are you ret*rded? Dudes living his best life and is very happy. It's called an interview. How can bret have an interview about his career and not talk about all the awful things he went through? It's impossible lol
I just dont know why... but in my memories I can only think of that Bret hart and Sting feud... which kind of fizzled out.
Something about Bret yelling about "Mascara" as a taunt.
And I'm like going... bro... this is exactly why you don't draw.
"Put on mooore mascara stiiing!"
He's as much to blame for him floundering in WCW as he kind of held WWF down being their champ... as sweet of a ring performer he was.