I moderately despise League of Legends ranked system

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @werytg11
    @werytg11 2 месяца назад +11

    lol used elo system in seasons 1-3, after that they switched to a system which was developed by Microsoft for online fps shooters. They call it lolmmr.

    • @Mactav3
      @Mactav3 2 месяца назад

      IIRC they used their proprietary mmr system since s3. They allegedly only switched to trueskill 2 (the Microsoft’s mmr system) in s14.
      Correction: the lolmmr system was first version of trueskill. And trueskill 2 is not yet active (prob in s15 at earliest). Current mmr is apparently some riot’s version of trueskill 1 or whatever they cooked up as intermediary for s14.

    • @werytg11
      @werytg11 2 месяца назад

      @@Mactav3 yes. you are correct. regardless, they dont use elo anymore.

    • @kevinbimariga3895
      @kevinbimariga3895 2 месяца назад +1

      Do you mean EOMM?

  • @Dakkych
    @Dakkych  2 месяца назад +36

    There is 0 true statements in this video. I was in vulnerable emotional state when I made this (league does some shit to people)

    • @kleik_
      @kleik_ 2 месяца назад +6

      no no, you're 100% right

    • @BigRedDino3311
      @BigRedDino3311 2 месяца назад +3

      you spelled false wrong, 0 false statements

    • @andeeersu9287
      @andeeersu9287 Месяц назад

      its worse than you think

    • @GrammeStudio
      @GrammeStudio Месяц назад +2

      the idea that being matched against people your skill level and hence "the system is the one making you lose" is such a victim mentality take if not straight up absurd.
      being matched against people your skill level is LITERALLY the embodiment of FAIR and BALANCED matchmaking. yet so many Non Playable Character these days think it's rigged because "OMG I don't have agency and cannot control my own destiny"
      so many complain about "the system expects you to have 50%win chance" like you put it. you were the only one i've heard who understands WHY i.e. same MMR on both team. yet the fact that you interpret that as messed up, shows you how poisoned by the cultural mindset even someone as you are. disappointing
      the matchmaking only determines what it identifies, based on your PAST matches. meaning if you suddenly get good, you would have proven its prediction WRONG. and that's how people climb. by getting good. if you're the same skill as shown in your past matches, why should you be allowed to climb!?
      if an elo booster plays on your account, do you actually think that account will still lose the next match to stabilize towards 50% just because the system expects you to lose based on your past matches? Of course not! so clearly the issue is the player not the system.
      i guess im doing opposite of preaching to the choir. words falling on deaf ears i guess. the irony is people like you love bringing up MMR, matchmaking, and other numbers related facts, yet like they completely stuck fingers in ears and refuse to hear "statistics". bro MMR and matchmaking ARE part of statistics. it's already science and statistics even before it becomes too hard/nerdy for you to grasp.
      also, why do people credit themselves for win streak but start blaming teammates for loss streak? where's the consistency? at least ALSO think winner queue is due to luck

    • @chopchopofficiel
      @chopchopofficiel 13 дней назад

      @@GrammeStudio Clearly, you understand nothing. The rank loses all its value if it doesn't reflect a player's current skill level. Since rank is the objective of a player's investment, the system can't function if that objective becomes meaningless. By artificially balancing matchmaking, you're influencing the value of that player's rank and disrupting all ranks in a chain reaction.
      You're talking about Elo boosting, which is completely off-topic. Of course, a Master smurf playing in Gold will crush games and move up in 10 games. But a player who's 10 tiers below their max elo will take a year to reach it due to all the behind-the-scenes balancing Riot does.
      Automatic balancing leads to wasted time and creates frustration, that's all.

  • @loudwhispre9406
    @loudwhispre9406 2 месяца назад +12

    Not an untrue thing was said here today. The system wants you to win only half the time. So if you go on a win streak, it triggers the matchmaking system to match you with lower ranked teammates to make you go on a losing streak. Now you have a 50% win rate. The system is "working". Yaaaaaay...

    • @xXCheapTofuXx
      @xXCheapTofuXx 2 месяца назад +3

      The system doesn't want anything, the system doesn't know your skill, it only tries to predict it. If it thinks you are better than you actually are and you lose then that's on you, and you just proved to the system that you're not good enough.
      That's the difference between climbing players and stuck, stuck players will lose the games where the system tries to give you a chance to show that you are better. There are accounts that go 120 wins in row from iron to master, it is simply a skill issue.

    • @h3r0shy64
      @h3r0shy64 2 месяца назад +2

      best advise is to imagine youre playing with and against bots on changing difficulty... then only you are to blame cause you are the only human in the equation

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      Technically you'll face both increasingly harder players as well as a return to standard deviation

  • @verge3759
    @verge3759 2 месяца назад +3

    the feeling when you return from vacation and you go from master to emerald is so awfull, like the game punish me for not playing

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      Musta been a very long vacation to decay that far

    • @verge3759
      @verge3759 2 месяца назад

      @@Minecraft52628 -75 lp each day, so 1 weak equal 525lp

    • @verge3759
      @verge3759 2 месяца назад

      @@Minecraft52628 not really. 1 weak equal 525 lp lost, its enough to go from master to emerald.

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      @@verge3759 I mean you can get a 2 week shield and you literaly cant decay past d2?

    • @verge3759
      @verge3759 2 месяца назад

      @@Minecraft52628 yes 2 weak if you play 14games, but i usually forget to stack, and even if i stack 2 weak goes fast

  • @neroitR
    @neroitR 2 месяца назад +8

    Living happy life since uninstalling league of legends, I miss the times I still had fun in this game tho

  • @elios7623
    @elios7623 2 месяца назад +12

    00:13 the average EU experience

  • @alexa-qe2gz
    @alexa-qe2gz 2 месяца назад +2

    when i started playing ranked the moment i knew that the lp gains are NOT BASED ON YOUR PERFORMANCE it blew my mind
    i asked my friends if thats even real, so i could be 20/0 or 0/10 and win the same amount its just insane

    • @rolandgillanyi4880
      @rolandgillanyi4880 2 месяца назад

      It's based on the performance of YOUR past games. If you had 20 poor games (no matter if you lost or won them), don't expect the system to give you 50lp for a 20/0 game lol

  • @Gids9
    @Gids9 Месяц назад

    My only real pain point now is the amount of resets in a season went up with adding 3 splits so for players who want to climb and find themselves getting stuck it feels like you are disincentivised to even bother, why try to climb while stuck when its going to reset soon and il be back at square one, especially when most people arent streamers who can grind the game day in and out

  • @Wombola
    @Wombola 2 месяца назад +6

    U forgot about people duo queuing with a friend that is essentially boosting them

    • @nexxanor-1059
      @nexxanor-1059 2 месяца назад

      That’s only boosting if consistently they’re doing a lot worse than anyone else

    • @xXCheapTofuXx
      @xXCheapTofuXx 2 месяца назад

      @@nexxanor-1059 silver yuumis can easily be duo'd to d+

    • @nexxanor-1059
      @nexxanor-1059 2 месяца назад

      @@xXCheapTofuXx yuumi is a exception

  • @gen.tucker6024
    @gen.tucker6024 2 месяца назад +1

    I HATE how your score and performance has literally f**kall impact on your elo. When people start "GG FF 15" and "GO NEXT"-ing and all that shit you can just stop caring about the game and intentionally feed because if I go 15/0 or 0/15 doesn't matter the slightest when 3 people are already running it and demoralizing everyone.
    2 games in a row fking trolls after slightest problem
    This system makes ranked RNG as fking hell except for streamers who play 500 games every month. Great system Riot, where you have to play 10 000 games to know what rank you actually are.
    To guarantee a win almost every single game you have to play on at least Master level in Platinum and Challenger level in Emerald & low Diamond and in Master on a fking rank 1 level or beyond.
    And playing with friends is a big no-no if you care about your MMR, and it even seems to lower a tiny bit from god damn Normal games even...

  • @ionrikanayanil2836
    @ionrikanayanil2836 2 месяца назад

    As one man said "Only one proposal of Matchmaking system is decide who's team win". Even new players can see that and... there is no interesting games when you forsed to win or loose. Because it doesn't make you feel bright emotions, you doesn't emotionally belong to the process. Riot ask us "Why there are no new players in LoL?" - there is one of the answers. Many old players quitting the game because of it too.
    You can still improve your mechanics, macro, etc... but if your real level don't increase very fast, system just adapts to the this little changes in your gameplay and correct your winrate to the 50 percent again and again and again.
    So, If you try to improve your skills... imho, you do it not for your rank, you do it for more consistent gameplay for your personal pleasure.

  • @kentuckyfriedchildren5385
    @kentuckyfriedchildren5385 2 месяца назад +1

    I think it's been confirmed that lol doesn't use chess elo system, it's more likely they use eomm

  • @dashcamvideos2629
    @dashcamvideos2629 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s actually good, cuz it keeps us coming back 😭💀 (I hate myself for falling into the LOL trap)

  • @charulellogram
    @charulellogram 2 месяца назад +1

    Azzap once discussed his perspective on this topic, wherein he stated that for him, as long as he performs consistently well and do not throw/int, he will win eventually, so even if the system does stack the odds against him, he knows he will win eventually.

  • @yoshi596
    @yoshi596 2 месяца назад +1

    Riot matches you with other players based on MMR. They aren't forcing you into Losers Q. It just so happens, that same MMR != same skill.

  • @the1ucidone
    @the1ucidone 2 месяца назад +3

    Out of 9 games yesterday. I had one prick 2 games in a row literally play Soraka top and go 0/10 then 0/20. And all of my games were just a mess and this is in Diamond. But I demoted and now have to climb back. I swear I had zero control over the win conditions. At least it felt that way.

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      Bro off meta isnt bad. I guarentee you the higher you go the weirder stuff you will see

  • @N3207H05
    @N3207H05 2 месяца назад +2

    but what you describe has nothing to do with the ranked system or specificly LoL. This is true for every team game. If you cant stand the feeling that you dont have 100% influence then team-games are just not for you.
    yes if you look at matches individually then luck is a factor. but over the span of hundreds of games the only concistent factor is you, and if this factor constantly is in your favour then you will win more. imagine 2 ppl roll 5 dices against each other but one person has a rigged dice so he gets at least one 6 no matter what, this dice is you! of course the person with the rigged dice wont win every roll but over time its inevitable that this person will win more rolls (games).
    i dotn rly get why ppl think riot wants you to have lose streakes, why would they? if you have a lose streak chances are very high you actually are frustrated and wont keep playing if the system was rigged in order to make you keep you playin, your game streakes would look something like this. win,lose,win,lose...

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад +1

      You actually see the opposite in most cases where developers will add bots to artificially increase peoples w/r but ususally not in a ranked/competitive gamemode

  • @andrewlighthuang
    @andrewlighthuang 2 месяца назад +1

    i know the ranked system can be frustrating but it rewards consistent players i am masters at the moment and i peaked at grandmaster i can say to you confidently that once you get good enough any rank below masters is very easy to climb out off and i bet a challenger player would say that masters is very easy to climb out off if you had their knowledge i believe frustration of losing is due to lack of knowledge and skill when you learn and improve your frustration will diminish and that is what i love about the league ranked system

    • @Dakkych
      @Dakkych  2 месяца назад

      I feel the same way. But when I see challenger players lose exactly the same way as plat players and go on a 7 match lose streak i feel like there is something wrong with ranked system

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      Yeah i've gone 35-0 W/L sylas on a fresh account this season. It really is easy to smurf if you know the game

  • @nemanjamarkovic2444
    @nemanjamarkovic2444 Месяц назад

    be happy you didn't reach the tumor rank called low master playing low master late at night is the equivalent of hell

  • @taserrr
    @taserrr 2 месяца назад +3

    Right where to begin.
    1. League of Legends does not simply use the chess ELO system, they use a variety on systems ON TOP of the MMR system. A recent post was made about an ex riot employee explaining it in more detail.
    2. You cannot accurately represent your rank based on your laning phase, because the laning phase is only a small part of the game. There's drafting, pushing your laning phase lead, playing safe in laning phase, roaming, split pushing, teamfighting, objectives, itemization, win conditions, etc.
    3. Indeed if you are good enough you will climb out of ranks a lot faster than you'd think, cuz if you're at say a 60% winrate in gold (which you should be expecting at least if your real rank is like emerald+), you'll start gaining 25-35 lp for a win and losing only 15-20 for a loss.
    You're too focused on climbing invisible numbers rather than focusing on improving yourself. If you stop considering whether you played well and had a loss, and start focusing on what you could've done better every game, you will climb no matter what.

  • @TakruTori
    @TakruTori 2 месяца назад

    Diamond 1 to gold on wildrift but that's due to inactivity. Is there any comparison video on what a rank in wildrift is in league?

  • @rapidtrap787
    @rapidtrap787 2 месяца назад

    worst part is wining 7 games and then getting 3-5 games of dc, afk players LIKE HOW ????? i just had 7 games of normal people then blam 4 games where some one dc or goes afk , then 4 more games where some one just feeds soo hard, or who doesent know how to play the lane or champ, then u open your score see 50% and same win game and lose game score, PERFECTLY BALLANCED AS ALL THINGS SHOULD BE.

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      Yeah but afk rates are so low idk how you ever see that

  • @unclixed_YT
    @unclixed_YT 2 месяца назад +1

    one of my most recent ranked games, 25/8, 5 towers, 2 inhibs, 80,000 damage, and we still lost. i honestly just cant carry my way out of bronze and i gotta make a new acc or smth to start of higher so my teammates wont be boulders locked to my ankles lol

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      The fact you didnt mention dragons or barons instead of towers and kills suggests you are indeed bronze

    • @unclixed_YT
      @unclixed_YT 25 дней назад

      @@Minecraft52628 if they can't win a 4v3 while 2 of the enemy team is on me it's their problem

  • @NoobieSnake
    @NoobieSnake 2 месяца назад

    This video was so funny and entertaining. 😂 Keep it up!

  • @daki59e234
    @daki59e234 Месяц назад

    im on a 9 lose streak, just after a 9 win streak.

  • @chopchopofficiel
    @chopchopofficiel 13 дней назад

    3:15 Your point is very interesting, resume everything and it counters your last video 'League is not toxic.' I think League of Legends is toxic because of its ranked system, communication, and MMR balance, which push players to be selfish/stress/toxic etc...
    Even though the game itself doesn't have a toxic game design, the design of the rest is an integral part of the game and makes it toxic

    • @Dakkych
      @Dakkych  12 дней назад

      I was really tilted when I wrote script for this video and because of that some things didn't come out the way I truly feel about league. In the future I might even unlist this video cause I'm not really happy with how it turned out.

    • @chopchopofficiel
      @chopchopofficiel 12 дней назад

      @@Dakkych Don't feel insecure about leaving work that you no longer relate to, otherwise you'll spend your time deleting everything. I left my first tracks online, which I thought were bad, and now they have thousands of plays. People relate to them even though I think they're terrible and poorly composed; I even feel like they tarnish my image. But that's not true - they show my evolution, just like this video and the ones after will show the evolution of your opinions.
      We're human, it's normal to change our minds and to be emotional.

  • @myritebaw
    @myritebaw 2 месяца назад

    ive said it 1000 times but ill say it again here also.
    bring back the old s2 elo system where you seen your visual mmr and at the end of the game you could see how much mmr you gained for that game,it was a much easier system that actually showed progression.
    it could easily be implemented again just like s2,remove lp,let us see our "hidden mmr" and then its all good

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      theres fundamentally no difference... They added this just to give ppl a sense of progression so its really only a positive

  • @aimseriesmoviemaking9760
    @aimseriesmoviemaking9760 2 месяца назад +2

    1:59 yasuo mains be like

    • @nikikacharava
      @nikikacharava 2 месяца назад

      Like you…

    • @Ratty524
      @Ratty524 2 месяца назад +1

      Bro was coping so hard and got carried by his bot lane 😂

  • @Minecraft52628
    @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

    carrying isnt about getting all the resources for yourself... Simply pinging your team efficiently will go insanely far in w/r

    • @Dakkych
      @Dakkych  2 месяца назад +1

      Depends on what rank you are playing in imo. Thanks for the comment tho

  • @rolandgillanyi4880
    @rolandgillanyi4880 2 месяца назад

    Why do people forget about games where they get carried? lol It happens much more often than you realize. If there is a game where you are mid and your opponent is slightly better than you (so you would most likely lose the match if it was a 1v1 game like in chess) but your adc is way better than their adc, it makes you scale better and eventually outscale the slightly better opponent midlaner if you play that game right. You gain the MMR back that you lost in a game where your team sucked.

    • @rapidtrap787
      @rapidtrap787 2 месяца назад

      thats the thing its ok to get caried, but its not ok to feed and get caried. you know how may times i have seen people who keep giving kills, pushing hard even when they are weaker not warding and not paying attention to what there feed enemy is doing, is insane. that i includes me, u just get soo tilted that u dont give a fuck anymore

  • @lplayerjohnny9778
    @lplayerjohnny9778 2 месяца назад

    You actually have a point. Actually not just one but several. League artificially forcing you to lose 50% of your games is not okay since it doesn't even make you lose 50% of your games because sometimes the dogs hit teammates/good teammates It assigns you are better/worse so the game counterbalances it out. Like you win 2 matches so it gives you 2 games where your team is shit. But after these you should win again but now your team is above shit so you lose again. And that happens over and over. The MMR system is not good. Ranked should be: You win a game you get a flat amount of elo, you lose one, you lose that elo again. That's how it should be

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      50% is the most natural possible number... If you have ppl who are losing or winning more than 50% someone has to balance it out with the opposite otherwise you just have an unstable system.

  • @Turner6277
    @Turner6277 2 месяца назад

    All of the League psycological biases really coming together in this one. Enjoyable video tho ^^

  • @worldofmelodi
    @worldofmelodi 2 месяца назад +2

    same I hate it and imagine that I donated once for few skins and my matchmaking system got much better for a month , I tried it again and it worked! so I bet its all about money

  • @gandalfthewhi7483
    @gandalfthewhi7483 2 месяца назад

    finally somebody said it

  • @saymynamemoh4499
    @saymynamemoh4499 2 месяца назад

    I WAS fking silver 1 98 lp. i won 13 out of 15 games. the next day i got placed with bots for 12 games all lost. back to silver 4. i thought its a myth but i dont think so anymore. at least give us voice chat riot. typing makes me rage even more. fk this game man i will go back to playing souls games

    • @Minecraft52628
      @Minecraft52628 2 месяца назад

      Perhaps its because you were raging that you lost 12 games in a row and that prolonged mindset basically created your own losers que

    • @saymynamemoh4499
      @saymynamemoh4499 2 месяца назад

      @@Minecraft52628 im a very calm guy. i dont get tilted over a game.

  • @Noctis-lg7xp
    @Noctis-lg7xp 2 месяца назад

    This was after his video talking about how delusional league players are btw lol. No hate but the sudden jump in perspective just seems interesting x)

    • @Dakkych
      @Dakkych  2 месяца назад +1

      It says in the description of the channel "just another league player" nothing special brother

  • @aryansingh6586
    @aryansingh6586 2 месяца назад

    1:30 lol

  •  2 месяца назад +1

    Just true

  • @Атласварвар
    @Атласварвар 2 месяца назад

    lmao u got jokes man 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    "hidden in some unpaid intern a$$ "lmaoooo
    when i ifrist subsribed to u i was looking for bronze but i found gold, keep posting bro ur very entertaining and the accent is the cherry on top, altough u defientley speak better than me, keep up bro 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @nikikacharava
    @nikikacharava 2 месяца назад

    U nas na rodine eta nazivaiut kai ylort

  • @theyluvrask
    @theyluvrask 2 месяца назад

    real

  • @vonjariuszaulda9454
    @vonjariuszaulda9454 2 месяца назад

    now do csgo players they're more worse species

  • @KingprosBr
    @KingprosBr Месяц назад

    please stop making videos like this