I've had ~10 successful reports in the last couple days. It's gotten to the point that I get a "thank you for reporting" box every time I log in lol. What a great state this game is in.
At least 2 Thanks for report everyday, i started to Think that mmr hold me locked in e 3 plus minus 1 division.. No matther how i play how hard i try nah..
understand the game better or dont play. there are tools out there in and out of game for you to play the game properly. learn every role to extent that you can play the game normally at.
@@ryanmccarthy7281 The vast majority of players don't do that, though. There are plenty of OTP-s out there even around challenger, like ScrubNoob and Sinerias. They are really good at the game, have one or two pocket picks if their main gets banned, but they would get absolutely bodied if they are autofilled mid lane for example against an actual challenger mid laner. It's really not that weird, even non-otp players only play at most 3 roles, if you try to be good at everything, you will be good at nothing.
@@ryanmccarthy7281everyone has learn the roles at some point though. You can’t really learn jungle in a bots game beyond basic pathing. Bots wont give you situational pathing or even a jungler to contend with. It’s all free. So in my opinion the best time to learn other roles is a five stack of friends so you’re not ruining a random teammate’s game
This season has been so fucking weird for me. One day I’ll have 6 straight wins, the next day I’ll demote and theres barely a middle ground. Im not the type of person to be like “i cant climb bc my teammates are bad” but its so weird how just today my first 4 games all had a troll or an afk. On top of this it seems like in every other game one team had a smurf and/or someone who was 2 whole ranks below everyone else. Every session feels like 1 step forward and 3 steps back lmao
feel you, early season i climbed my way into emerald 3 and then had massive lose streaks. im not saying it was all my teammates fault but i did get a lot more inters and poeple giving up only 10 minutes into the game. my winrate is still at a solid 61% btw. i just lost interest to try and climb again after getting demoted to plat 1.
I also climbed to silver 3 (started out in bronze 3-4) and then one day I lost 9 out of 12 games, most of them because of trolls or afk's. I got demoted to bronze eventually and my winrate dropped in that one day from 60% to 54%. Luckily I didn't give up after that and now I'm back in silver 3.
It was normals but dude… I’m Emerald IV and there were 3 Master players in the enemy team and none in my team. How is that? 😂 I was catched off guard for high elo.
I had a game recently with a Sivir adc in high plat, she looked like she didnt even know what farming was and she admitted in the chat that she was pretty new to the game.
I also had a new player like you just mentioned! It was a lux in low plat that also said she had no clue why she was that high of a rank when shes completely new to the game
The very last game I played today had a Galio mid in it, comp looked good.. until the enemy Yasuo farmed his ass on repeat. Turned out he was lvl 31 and got thrown into the deep end of low plat. We lost.. just when I was on a winning streak too. I wasn't even mad, poor guy has been losing for days.
Well people are also buying accounts too, don’t forget. If you see a Plat or Emerald account with barely any mastery on champs and under 30 ranked games, it’s probably a Smurf. Which means they will run it or for fun their gameplay. Or in rare cases carry.
One of the worst decisions Riot did was making the entire ranking process super quick. The matchmaking system can't correctly set a players skill anymore so the skill differences within games are all over the place. It constantly has to predict the skill level which leads to it overshooting or undershooting constantly, leading to "technically" fair but in reality very unfair matches
You're probably right about this. Though I think that if a player is accomplishing 60-70% or higher win rating, they should be greatly accelerated to climbing the through the ranks. I've played just about a 100 games this season, and i was at a 70% win rating, then 60% win rating, and down now to 57% win rating, and I'm still not out of bronze. I had to climb out of low Iron btw... Truly unmotivating, hence the reason I haven't played very much in the last couple weeks. I was really feeling that this season would be the year that I would get through the Gold ceiling, as I've never gotten into Gold, after playing ranked since S3, always getting close in high silver, but never through. I've been playing League since open beta, and I'm not a bad player :( Check out one of my ranked games I uploaded to my channel this season. I had 35 KDA as ADC and my game still was almost a loss.
Ranking process doesn't have anything to do with matchmaking, the ranks you see are just a skin that don't mean anything so it doesn't affect the quality of games. It does affect people's perception of things though, using real examples from Riot themselves, they made it too easy to rank up compared to demoting last season, which led to insane rank inflation. They also added a new tier of ranks which spread people out more. Because of those two factors, players with the same MMR could be anywhere from Silver 1 to Emerald 4 which is a crazy gap for players of literally the same skill in the same game, but the matchmaking system was still the same because your rank doesn't really matter, and these players were all roughly low/mid-Gold quality players (pre-Emerald). So the quality of the games stayed the same, but because of the wide of ranks, people perceive it differently.
Seems like lol is going the same thing with lol as they did with wr. Basically boosting up new players to higher ranks for that sweet dopamine kick thus motivating them to buy skins, wild pass etc, while at the same time driving away their old player or "forcing them" into smurfing/turning them even more toxic.
this video also doesn't bring up the fact that a lot of people with "old" accounts (like me) usually get like +20 lp for win and lose -30 for loss, making it that much worse when you run into iron inters on your main account. There is literally 0 upside to not making a new account. Ridiculous that riot is basically forcing you to smurf if you want to play ranked.
Staring s3 I agree with this. Only problem for me is I’ve spent so much money on skins and I genuinely enjoy using them a lot it’s hard for me to start anew
@@rhombus636XDDD I've lost lile 7 games in a row on e4/p1 and now im getting -32 +17 and I just keep falling down XDDD How the fk did they fix the problem? Like atleast let me reset my mmr dudes, ok put me back to p4 BUT give me my fkin normal lp gains! I wish there was a 'drop a rank button but equalise your mmr' so I don't have to play 100 games to drop down a whole division and normalise my LP gains
I literally had an iron 1 in my gold 1 game. The enemy team had bronze 4. They could not duo because everyone else was gold. And of course, you guessed It, both players got trashed and flamed. 200 years my ass, I want people with neurons in their brain. It is especially bad for me because I play scaling champs top and when my team gets stomped, I just lose. I just have these games over and over again and I am sick of it.
It's been going on since the creation of the hidden mmr and removal of elo. I used to be silver in season 3 and in all my matches I would get full teams of gold all the time while being the only silver and I was unable to rank up. Ranked is just a time sink to hook you on the game and create an addiction. If they cared elo system would be back and hidden mmr disappear but that would put to light all the shenanigans they do to create league junkies.
@@cloudwalker9572 hello , i'm one of those junkies , i used to be silver in season 3 just like you , when i started ranked , and i had the same experience you had. in fact i learned a lot about the game because i wanted to be better , and from s3 to now , i can say it , i'm better than before. really. but despite trying again and again , i never reached out of silver. last month i reached a point i could never imagine and that has never happened , i was demoted to bronze and it was the final blow to my mind , i raged-uninstalled. 3 weeks later i reinstalled , did 1 aram ; matchmaking enemy : 1 master with 4 premades all high elo ; mine? me + 3 new players under lvl20 and one iron.... feels like i'm beeing punished and i dont even know why.
Valve fixed this for Dota by demanding cell phone numbers be connected to any account trying to play ranked. It sucks a lot for people that can't afford cell phones, but for the rest of us it has meant an incredible reduction in smurfs and bots
Not being able to afford a cellphone while having a PC capable of playing DOTA + internet seems like someone making excuses so they can keep smurfing tbh.
Quit it after 1 week of S14. Game has been dying for 2-3 seasons and Phreak has been happily nailing the coffin while arrogantly making all the wrong decisions based on misleading reasons (champion changes, pings, chat, placements, items, preseason is gone...) Feels good to be set free after 10 years though.
I been moba free (LoL and dota) for almost 7 years now, it will be hard, its hard to not play as much with friends that stay, and harder to find a go to game to chill.. but you will be happier, go to the gym bro you will feel better in the end
Dude i'm Emerald 3 atm, I have at least 2 smurfs every single game. Level 3X. How can Riot claim that their matchmaking is fair ?????? And the players either goes teemo 0/15 or Kayn 15/0. It's ruining the fun coz it makes it even harder for me to actually have an impact. Also they are toxic as hell since they bought the account for a couple of € or $ and don't give a shit if it gets banned. It's been 2-3 years already and Riot doesn't care at all. And yeah, as u mentionned, new players get veeery often mistaken by Riot for smurfs. Fk Smurfs
i agree mostly, but riot has tried fixing this in the past and honestly has worked somewhat ofc its not perfect and still needs a TON of improvement, but one major change is that they removed the effect that your physical rank (being bronze, silver, emerald) has on your matchmaking aka they only take your mmr into account not to invalidate your feelings but you're emerald 3, which is relatively high on the ladder if the level 3X's are there, that means the system has recognized they are smurfs/good at the game and placed them with higher mmr folks MUCH MUCH better that they are playing against emerald players than "stuck" in silver or gold stomping players who aren't as good as them then again, i still agree that riot needs to take a MUCH more active role in many of the problems than making bandaid fixes that solve only part of it
I doubt you have 2 smurfs every game, also some games it might not be a smurf problem just that the other is an inter and feeding. Emerald is a weird rank cause some games it feels like a high elo game and others make it seem like Iron and they run around like headless chickens doing nothing, and that makes the normal emerald player stand out but still not being a smurf.
Emerald is the worst rank ever. 90% of games are one side stomping the other. There are rarely games that feel like it’s a fair match. I’ve lost track of how many teammates I had that feed, then whoever got fed on the enemy team just steamrolls everyone and it’s literally impossible to counter it. I look at these feeders accounts and they have 10+ loss streaks yet still manage to stay in Emerald because occasionally they match against people who somehow suck even more than them…
I dont think you are getting smurfs in your games but your teammates might just be hard inting against your opoments the reason why im saying this is because most players who smurf come from diamond or low master elo because when they find someone whos above 200 lp in master and crushes them in laning phase their ego gets hurt and they turn to smurfing now heres the thing the amount of players in diamond and apex leagues is objectively very small and the majority are still looking to climb and improve or are just mad fkers who spam shit tone of games cuz they are too angry because they are hard stuck to actually put in the work to climb anyway so the amount of players who would smurf is even lower which implies that the chance of getting one smurf are already low and for 2 of them even lower even i am getting a lot of inters especially in bot lane who go 5/20 in a d1 master games so i can only imagine what might be happening in the lower ranks
My working theory for a long time is that there haven't been any unironically new players since around 2015 and it's been nothing but smurfs and burner troll accounts since then.🙃
They should take a note from Dota 2's book and require all accounts to have a valid phone number before they can play ranked, so that it's much much harder to create alternate accounts.
Finished in D4 last season. This season riot's beautiful system put me in G2 and basically locked me into mid plat, the second I get to P1 afks, disco Nunus, bots and griefers.
Bro literally me. I got to d4 with 74% wr. I said I got my goal rank and will not play ranked anymore(lasted 3 weeks then went back to playing ranked). I kid you not every single game after that 0/30 bot lanes, troll picks running it down, junglers inting my lane, afks, ect. Now im dragged all the way down to plat 2 with a 47% wr hardstuck. dog shit game and company.
I saw a riot post that was like, (paraphrased) "losers queue doesn't exist and we've fixed mmr, you wont get people outside your rank anymore" and I've had more matches where we've been fighting golds while having silver and irons on our teams as gold-silver rank...like 3 matches in a row with Iron 2s .
fix mmr XDDD oh guys check before you do -35 and + 26 damn now you gain 30 but loose 38 xd fixed gain more and loose more i fkcing have 50% wnr ok cool funny haha i win 25 lp do 4 win win at the 4th win 16 lp why riot ? but when i loose 2 game in row the next loose is not the same as win -__- i loose more the game actually is fucked really you go ranked game are horrible when you have every game the lvl 30 acc ready to win or int but chetaer are the problem when in fkcing plat 4 i tag fkcing plat 2 who buy his account just fklcing 1 week ago like wtff riot account spam bot only and strange moove go straight ranked only and loose i loose too many game by this joke and yeah vanguard gonna just do nothing to this because i feel cheater are totally invisible more high you go more ez is to spot the cheat but yeah riot gonna do shit moove like every time this game gonna be same as forza lazy ppl doing lazy shit
True I'm hardstuck iron and I constantly get put vs golds like 50% of games and many of them I lose them even winning my lane because MY TEAMMATES AREN'T GOLD they are iron too but the TRUE IRON low mmr if u know what I mean If I am not in losers queue then losers q doesn't exist lmao
@@Rickkhry hahah yeah ppl speak about this and tell us this is fake when I win many game the same day I got for 100% a game with ppl who run down or don't play or the 0/4 top still fight and int more
The reason I finally quit league is that I'm a low silver player at BEST, and yet every game I played across every game mode was routinely against Plat and emerald players. I literally couldn't play the game and it was just far too frustrating. I know I'm not a good player and I don't have the time to practice or get better, but I really shouldn't have to.
ok so it's just not me going crazy. I know a lot more about the game than any silver player (watched a lot youtubers play over the years) and been playing this game for many many years. Yet I can never get out of silver elo because every game is literally a coinflip. I had a hunch about this and now it's confirmed after watching this.
That's why I started a new account and it got me to Gold. Bro Silver players are braindead asf, worse than Bronze. I climbed the past year from Iron 2 to Gold 4. I feel you man. @@janmajnik6889
I been moba free (LoL and dota) for almost 7 years now, maybe quit tbh.. it will be hard, its hard to not play as much with friends that stay, and harder to find a go to game to chill.. but you will be happier, go to the gym bro, play other games, look for offline single player games too, you will feel better in the end
@@janmajnik6889trust me its not working like that. If you are stuck in a elo, your actual elo is really close to that. For 8 years i said the same but looking at back i was actually not good. You just feel like it, you get better by playing. My first time playing placement i got silver 3, in 1 month i climbed to gold at 11, 2 years later platinum at 13. Diamond in 1 years at 14. masters in 2 years at 16. And hit gm+ after 1 year and still gm for 2 years euw. This is how it goes it takes alot of time to climb. And every rank ive been in i said the same as you. To rank up you just need to play the game which is the sad reality of the game.
Meanwhile my main and kinda only acc I use to play in gen or ranked.. was stuck in iron for the longest and I hit bronze after a lot of spam and luck... DUDE FOR FK SAKES I'm one of the best players in the world and best and only tactician... I even fking came up with solo Baron for Aphelios and I did it fast and have it on my channel ffs xdddddddd
Finally someone is talking about new players' fucked up rankings! Me and my boyfriend have just started playing ranked a couple months ago and after initial (all lost!!!) games got placed in plat. We were so confused cause we couldn't even find any people talking about similar cases at the time. The path down elos is so demotivating and I felt really bad for the players who were actually in the right elo. Basically, extremely fucked up experience for everyone. We just returned to playing ARAM for the time being for the sake of our sanity 💀💀💀
I wouldn’t play ranked until you have a solid grasp of the game, there’s a lot to learn and a ton of depth to the game, I recommend playing draft until you’re confident in your abilities and champion knowledge. Of course, you don’t have to play ranked at all, a lot of people play casually too, whichever is more fun
@@coldresin that's some good advice, yeah. We played draft for a bit before ranked (definitely not enough tho) and then decided to just get over with placement matches, cause, yk, why not, what could go wrong hahah Went so wrong obviously
What makes it difficult is not just running into fresh players. Newer players youll eventually not see, and smurfs (if they arent actually griefing to drop levels) will eventually climb. But the issue is more in the sense of higher rank individuals soft inting games to try to get the game lost to start the next one. So youll get an Em. player just giving up and running it because they got a new player on their team and its "not worth playing." So as much as i hate new players, i hate my peer veterans for being weak mentalled little plebs.
i started my league acc in like 2018 or so but didn't hit level 30 to play ranked until a few days ago when i wanted to hop back on, and i feel so bad for my team having to put up with me and flaming me every game😭😭😭
@@classified5401i started in 2015 as well and wanted tk game again (i sucked then and still do) I'm only iron!!! Lowest of lows!!!! I wanna game but i feel bad cause I'm terrible!
@bltelysian yayyy!!!! Your comment made me feel better. Honestly i even started a twich account yearrrsss ago, roughly 2015ish also and i wanted to stream and was always ashamed of always losing!
Never surrender mentality is a ridiculous waste of time, which is probably exactly what forces those players into this behaviour. Hate u likewise bro. Anyhow I dont play LoL anymore.
The community is also part of the problem, lets say a new player does get put in with good players, they wont teach him how to play they will just cry and cry
You should know how to play by the time you are allowed to queue for ranked. it's level 30 requirement and that takes a long ass time to get to. More than enough time to at least know the basics.
After my friends convinced me to play ranked for the first time in like 2 years, I am placed in Plat 1 in flex after 4 placement games. We lost all of them miserably, and I did nothing in them. I just don't get this at all
Lmao, I've been saying this for a while. My main account is stuck in emerald, i had 80% win rate and i was losing WAY MORE than I was winning even after win streaks, good kda and everything, so naturally, I stopped playing on it. Made a "smurf" aka a new account, got dropped into plat. Ranked is a fcking joke lol. Ps, losers que is fcking real. There's more than enough proof for it. Oh yeah, also funny how "balanced" the matchmaking is when there are low golds in emerald games or silver in plat games. IT MAKES NO SENSE, like tf is riot even doing???
The solution is actually pretty easy: Require a verification process for ranked play. You could do that by a phone number. That will not eliminate all of them. But it makes it considerably harder to smurf and evade bans.
The funny part is that the balancing is not only a ranked problem. I've been learning the game with my brother and girlfriend in the last weeks, and in low level quickplay games, we're NEVER playing against low level players. It's ALWAYS lvl 200+ players, with more than 300k mastery points, and they ALWAYS run us down. It's ridiculous. Every game we're always thinking about just giving up and quitting.
Do all yourselves a favor and quit. If you think about quitting then quit, don't half ass it, it's a bad habit to stuck with things that are hurting you. There's so many better things in life than playing league.
same, i'm playing draft normals all the time, i'm no more than bronze level and my micro and macro is not good, i'm getting plats/emeralds all the time and even diamonds sometimes as my opponents and funny thing is my teammates always maximum silver or gold. this is leading a huge losing streak and unfun games and when i win 1 out of 10 games its because i get those plats and emeralds as teammates and the enemy team getting bronze/silvers. Yes since its normals i'm not losing anything but still i'm not having fun by getting stomped by high elo players. i can't talk about ranked since i'm not playing there but there is something wrong with the matchmaking in normals and aram now. in season 13 everything was decent for me but on season 14 its unplayable.
Trust me, just keep playing and learning the game. Dont focus on the losses, but learning the character and lane you are playing. Once you have a decent understanding of the game, you will see that those people you were against were not good. lol mastery 9/10 times means nothing.
I been moba free (LoL and dota) for almost 7 years now, maybe quit tbh.. it will be hard, its hard to not play as much with friends that stay, and harder to find a go to game to chill.. but you will be happier, go to the gym bro, play other games, look for offline single player games too, you will feel better in the end
I actually quit ranked when I finally hit plat for the first time last split only to realize fresh accounts were getting placed where I had to grind to... fuck Riotgames and LoL, I QUIT!!!
I quit and will not go back, there has been a HUGE spike in both "free win" and "free loss" scenarios. They have prioritized, over most things it seems, any given account winning 50 out of 100 games, instead of each having a 50% chance to win any given game.
Another root of the problem is that the MMR system is based purely on winning or loosing a game. Nothing takes into account individual performance in a game mode where individual performance is what decides the issue of a match most of the times. I once had an int feeder yasuo midlaner in my game. He went 1/25, we managed to win despite him, and this allowed him to improve his MMR. He should have lost MMR instead.
100% facts. I have hit gold every season on my main account from bronze. But could never hit plat. Always grinding with like +12 LP gains This season I created a new fresh account and try harded in norms and bot games until I got ranked unlocked. I placed gold 1 after placements and then hit plat for the first time ever in like 3 days lol. Def a rigged system. Also on my main account I’m kinda just playing whatever I want and having fun instead of tryharding and it demoted to iron from gold. But there is no skill difference imo from high iron to low gold. I play in Korea tho so might be deifferent for other regions. Plat tho is noticeably different in terms of overall game quality I will say
I've come across these bots, they were a duo bot lane. The moment they were in lobby they'd ban champions the ally team hovered. Ran it down in game. Always the same build (Jaksho first item). It's absolutely disgusting.
@@cloudwalker9572 +1 I stopped playing LoL aroun 2023 nov. And now i have much more time. I started playing more single player games insted (around 1-2hour a day at weekends) and its so peaceful. I love League, i mean the champs, the lore. I think its really good, but the gameplay itselfe, and the community.... Well its the opposite.... xD
nah, gotta disagree on the protest part. its genius the more you think about it, and encouraging. Imagine you find a cheat in the game, and report it. if the devs dont listen, the best way to make them listen is to exploit it. Eventually, if you play the bad guy long enough, you'll make everyone else's experience worse but improve the game in the long run once the devs care enough.
it's also crazy that on a base level this is a 5v5 designed game, and yet we're all supposed to solo/duo queue. it's insanely silly, if the game is a team game, people should be playing in teams.
For the first point, this has always been a problem and is somehow only worse now. I first started playing League in 2019. When I hit around level 30, I decided to give ranked a crack. I was immediately put into games with people who were LEVEL TWO HUNDRED. I got completely demolished, screamed at, probably reported and lost every single placement game. I did not play ranked for three years after that. Late last year and early this year have been the first times I have actually started to play ranked again, and it makes me so angry that somehow this problem is even WORSE now!
@@ok-vh7rz Yeah, level 30 is FAR too early to play ranked, it should be at least 50 imo, and it would make bot account farming worse too so it’s a double win
i’ve been having +22 -28 lp all season so far, usually around high gold - low plat but the teammates recently have been unbearable. it’s either i absolutely stomp but my team is doing terrible/trolling, or i get smurfed on and the game is now unplayable. idk what’s happening but it has been basically unplayable.
the ppl u call smurf are actualy real gold low plat and u lose cause u don't belong there u don't have knowledge to beat them and that's why u call them "smurfs" but there not they just put more time in to the game then u if u cant win at least 2 games in a row u dont belong there its why u get 22 lp and u lose 28 cause u probably win 1 lose 1 u need to win more then u lose to stay in that rank or u don't belong there and the system is trying to fix that for u by derank u to ur rank
@@zack164 false you can see if someone is a smurf, you also can bringt them easily to admit so its easier for you to report and get them banned. Just ask them if they cheat and when they say they are just better than ask them why they are in Bronze and than they will admit that they are smurfing. Easy report, easy ban. But Riots has to change the creation of the account, it has to been connected to your passport so everyone can only make one account.
on EUNE i had large loserq, playing adc, many times having botting supp, top that lose lane in 10 mins, which leads to lost games, being panalized for riots fault, getting even in worst state -38 / +17. Its pathetic system, to go neutral from this one -38 lp game, you have to win like 2.4 games in a row. Somehow i fixed that switching to top lane to have more control. I transfered my acc to EUW, hoping ppl will be better there. But no. Placements were 1 big troll fiesta, 2 games in a row ppl banned each other champ, 1 game was dodged insta, other no and was lost. And im facing again losers q, +19/-30. This LP system is designed to pull you down. It should be max +/- 20-25 and there would be no problem to easier gain back rank. Also funny is that always when i had botting support in game, it was always in my team. Will compensate my lost LP because of bots ? NO. fck them, i hope they go bancrupt. Only time when i gave them money was for transfer acc.
SOLUTION: You should gain/lose LP based on your performance during the game, not on a win/lose because it's SOLO queue. HOW? They can train a deep learning model to process each player individually and decide how much LP to give/remove based on his overall performance, you can lose a game, but you played well, then you should gain LP (it's complicated, but it's RIOT) With this change, it will force players to actually do their best, because they will not gain much LP even if they won the game but played poorly. Now, even when you are losing a game, your time is not wasted completely if you play well For this to happen and give accurate LP, the AI must be way better at the game than ALL players by far. As a team, the AI should have 99% win rate against Pros, so that it understands the full spectrum and all the complexity in a League of Legends game, so it can accurately judge your performance.
@@Livius_42 I am silver, its just a pain in the ass that you bring baggage from your last season, like if in any competitive you ''pop off", you get rewarded. In CSGO sometimes after 2-3 wins you rank up. In league you sometimes can stay in bronze 1 - silver 3 for weeks
@@mrfright7913 you pretend as if ranking up in league is some kind of witchcraft. Just have above 50% winrate and you'll climb. If you feel like playing more rank as a constant threat due to potentially losing LP even, then it's simply proof that you are in the rank you belong to. You gain almost 25 LP? that's almost 1/4 of the entire division! win four games in a row? most likely a promotion. Win even more in average and you probably skip divisions
@@Livius_42 Im sorry, but in no competitive game ever do you get less "lp" for winning than when you lose, league is the only exception to this, its only logical that you should get rewarded for winning because its harder to do than losing.
@@Jlezy if winning is harder than losing then you are A. in your right rank or B. ready to start grinding and git good. League has ALWAYS been a disgusting grind, still is and the fact that you constantly have to make the decision to blame yourself and push yourself OR blame your team or the game or other factors that you can't influence. Remember - at the end of the day, all players combined make a 50/50 win lose
Came back to the game after years of playing back in the day. Was gold near platinum. Came back, won 4/5 of my placement matches. Got put in iron 2. Fell to the bottom of iron for not being able to carry hard enough. Met a duo and we immediately turned around to climb to the top of iron in a week with an 80% winrate. Then they quit playing and now I am trying to get out of iron again. Sadly, I constantly get unwinnable games. Either the enemy team has smurfs that dunk on my team members, or my team members can't do basic shit like CS, OR I get paired with a troll feeding. I'm trying to delude myself I can keep climbing without going support for a duo and just winning mid. Have considered changing my mids to something more impactful.
I've personnaly never trusted solo ranked queues , never been interested in who have the biggest Duck and can carry everyone solo, it's a team game and i've always followed that path whether it was before (ranked team rankeds good old times , god i miss teams rankeds with our tags on) , or now flexs, and i personnaly enjoyed all my games (can't say the same for my friends LOL) , playing the game as intended. As a team
I used to be one of these people. I ruined over 1k games between 2018-2021. Absolutely one of the darkest times of my life, extremely grateful to be free of this game lol
im a bronze player in my 3rd season since i started in 2022, i recently promototed to b4 for the second season in a row, iu still have negative lp gains despite running into gold plat players regularly in my normals. as soon as i hit bronze i get fckd to death being the only bronze player in a gold elo game, which is leading to insane amounts of toxicitity from the entire lobby (and i disagree, i am not responsible for being in this game so everybody insulting in super-inhumane ways isnt relatable, they should be peramnently banned tbh), this is happening til im iron 1 again where i easily rank up, just to run into my next gold lobby. (and all of this with -7 lp average gains)
@@ozymandias8523Still, I don't get why they get punished so hard for losing, like how can a gold meet a bronze and still get to be gold? It's not like there's not enough players to match them against in silver. Rank doesn't matter? Sure, except being high MMR doesn't actually give any reward. Most people are only driven to play ranked to get the skin In G4, .
This season has been hell even for me and it doesn't help im in lower elo. Last season I got to silver from Bronze 4 out of my placements in like less than 10 games. Now I am actually stuck in silver4-bronze1 limbo cuz EVERY GAME I get someone with weak mental who threatens to run it down, actually runs it down, and/or spams ff in chat as early as 2 MINUTES IN before afking. I even got blessed with a Brand bot support in my ranked game (cuz Yuumi was banned) who did nothing but afk under tower and purchased dreammaker as his supp item. LOVE THIS SEASON!
@dracocrash1 nah I already ranked back up to gold and climbing. But every time we lose it's someone on my team forcing an ff and then crying games over before running it down. Maybe don't be a baby and play the game out and we win c: esp when I play Smolder kthnks
@@cosmicbrownie2312 I feel it. This plus the fact that I don't play ranked that active is the reason why I'm mostly stuck in Bronze. The mental is just so weak in low elo, people just can't put aside their differences to try and win, which would make everyone on the team happy in the end. It's so annoying. I just have to play more active, I guess
Riot matchmaking is fucking joke, i just had a unranked new lvl 31 account in my plat games as mid, he fed yasuo 12 0 and whole team got tilted, fucking riot
I play ranked for the competitive aspect and to push myself to improve. That does not mean I only enjoy the games I win. I also play chess and I play in tournaments, enjoying the competitive aspect beyond only the dopamine rush of winning. Claiming people play ranked for the dopamine rush from winning "including [you]" while also saying that "that is besides the point" and "ranked is objectively miserable" really just sounds like you projecting your inability to enjoy competition. Enjoying winning is not the same as enjoying competition.
But remember, "elo hell doesn't exist" "it's just you being bad at the game". I've had this told to me from so many "high elo players" its actually insane. I started playing in season 2, hit silver ONE TIME in season 5. After that I noticed bots from hell & its just been getting worst and worst each year. I've even run into the accounts that bluntly post their youtube OF THEM RUNNING IT DOWN! I've reported these accounts & dead ass nothing gets done. Like thank god to those that made Blitz & Porofessor. Because now I could truly see im not insane & ive been getting cheated for yeaaaaaars. And the fact "just now" said something about this 10+ year problem is actual insanity. I remember going to a Tyler1 stream when they released the "hiding of names" being told "its making the game better because you have fewer dodges at the start." All this did was piss me off even more because now it meant the person 1st picking Soraka or Yuumi was either real or fake & now that it was the same on Blitz/Porofess, I now couldn't dodge until the match started. Which now meant you're at the mercy of a shit list of problems: its a bot account that's gonna do nothing, its a bot account thats gonna feed 3-4 times then leave lane, its a bot thats gonna feed then leave the game at 15mins, its not just 1 bot its a duo so 1 lane is shit & the other is 20/0/0; or a duo & they both shit, etc etc. To have that many issues to worry about before even doing anything is already destroying the mental & now the game starts lol. Its actually insane to a point of being just beyond sad that dam near everything I just watched, I've seen in a game. Just this past week.... Tbh I could give 2 shits about Vanguard. I doubt it'll fix anything since websites & people will find a work around like they've been doing. Riot give me a job where I do my normal gaming & reporting. You'll be rich & I'll be an empty shell of my former sanity.
1:47 My friend says he reports anybody who shows any form of malice such as non stop ping harassing or champselect mishover trolls, even dc's, or even if they type too much (his reasoning is that they cannot use their skills when chatbar is opened and are proned to feeding and/or distracted). He mentions how he gets unskilled players, he stays quiet however bad they are performing, after they feed hard and start venting and flaming on the team and he just silently reports them. Last thing he told me was Split and Season 14 are the worst.
If the iron 4 boosters is true, bronze-gold has to be the most miserable elo to play if that's your real rank, my god lol. You either get paired with smurfs trying to win, or people losing on purpose.
That's about it. I ranked through this shit from bronze 3 to gold 2, then I was stuck between gold 4-2 because in every single game I would either have trolls/bots/afk/leavers/smurfs in my team or in enemy team non stop. I just uninstalled , this season is pure garbage. (mind you I don't care about the climb, its just no game was fun like at all, no matter if it was a win or a lose)
I gave up on playing league when they went hard on the reporting people for even typing 8 words in a game. All it did was give the trolls and bots the power and hostage take situations. I still watch the LCS and world's content but its just not worth playing the game anymore when riot leaves the game in such a toxic state. I am sad to see it looks even worse now, but maybe I dodged a bullet then. It sucks cause I watch those games and think dang I wanna play again then remember I wont get players that want to play on my team and decide against it.
Im 30 years old and I play league since I was 20. I tryharded alot over the years, otp´d anivia back in the day etc but I dont have the time for this game anymore because I have to work everyday. Its actually not even a ranked problem. I mostly play normal games with friends after work and were a really casual group. None of my friends is ranked higher than silver at best and Im just a Plat 2 clown, but I swear we play every game with and against low level 30-40 smurf accounts who are clearly diamond + and all of my friends just get completely smacked. Idk what happend but this was never the case before. We cant really play the game together and have fun since this smurf shit began half a year ago or whatever (remember in normals). I reaaally dont get why this is the case in freaking normal games man. I still love this game, its my absolute favourite but its actually getting hard to have fun even tho Im not a tilting player, because I and my friends actually dont have a fair chance to play the game.
I've started off in bronze 4, and every single game including placements im just getting matched with trollers who're purposely only in queues to spoil games for people, I'm currently on a 12+ loss streak over the span of 4 days, non of these players are even trying, literally just running into the enemy towers or flaming/taunting the enemy players in all chat until they purposely throw the match when we're at the end, mean while the enemies i feel like im playing against diamond+ players who're all in a 5 person group fully coordinated. Quite frankly, i'm just exhausted mentally, all i can do is report them and try and give details but riot has done nothing to any of the players who're only here to grief.
League is just miserable in general, not ranked alone... And the reason for it just boils down to riot not giving a crap and focusing on the wrong parts of the game.
This season has been terrible (for me at least). Usually i'm around high Emerald but this season i'm Plat 4 and still going down. I don't wanna be that guy who is like "my team mates are terrible and i should be higher rank than them", but honestly, that's how i feel, i've not had such a major ranked problem ever. I haven't seen such questionable plays in my own rank for many years.
Dude i seriously dont get it, ive been gold-play for the past year, and the last two splits of ranked (2023) were pretty normal, like games felt fair and i won when i shouldve and lost when i should but this season has been an absolute joke and i have no idea what happened. Literally EVERY game i have a teamate troll pick, someone has 5 deaths at 5 minutes and the toxicity from these idiots has been incredible. Ive never been more tilted before then i am with league at the moment
Nah dude you good. It really is our teammates. Blaming ourselves for others would just make us insane and it wouldnt be fair to us. If you have the most money and damage and objective damage. You good
The lvl requirement should be higher before being able to played ranked. That would give new players the chance to learn the game more, and since Vanguard is coming out in LoL soon, botting will be pushed down so people would need to put in effort to level up a smurf account. That's the only thing I came up with.
I feel like the higher level req would actually help - but only if you remove the XP boosters from the shop, otherwise they'll just buy them and price the account higher when selling it to cover the cost. (but that's unlikely as I imagine those boosters make riot a lot of money via smurfs....)
League has continuously become easier and easier to play. Like items deal a huge amount of damage now, which means hitting skill shots is less important. Strong new kits with passive dmg % which doesn't require you to do anything but lock in the champion. All of this leads to new&casual players not improving their own skillset as much as people used to. And then riot introduced emerald, and promoted players without them actually trying for it, which I think is unacceptable for a Competetive game. But all these reasons leads to players having an easier& more enjoyable time playing the game, which leads to Riot getting more money. in my opinion, the game in itself has lost a lot of its competitiveness by Riots greedy nature.
Vanguard won't stop the bots. It might reduce scripters, but bots are just too easy to make. Who would win, a $1000000 anticheat system vs one $20 circuit board boi?
Finally someone speaking true words. Thank you man. I hope more people get to see this video. It is absurd that we all continue to play ranked in league of legends.
Im currently sitting at D4 and i have a bronze friend who i GENUINELY think deserves at least plat, he was telling me about how difficult it is in bronze because of this exact issue. I didnt believe him (because y know you can 1v5 in that elo) but then i spectated his games and its no joke....he mains adc and over half his games the support stands behind tower and afks, the junglers often play the game for the first 5 to 10 min then afk farm literally until the match is over and this exact scenario is every other game for him.
Its fun to torment the bronze though i have 3 acc one i use to climb thats emerald one i use if i dodge too much thats gold and the last one i use to untilt by tilting others that one is in bronze😂
The funny part is that the protest is technically working. You and many other streamers are talking about it and the only way it will stop is if Riot fixes the problems that allow it to happen. This is the definition of a full proof plan. IDK its just weird that you said this "isn't protesting". Which by the way is "the expression of disapproval of or objection to something." which the bot guy is doing and apparently effectively. They're still evil and probably stupid but its working
I just recently got 1 of these "protestors" in my Emerald 1 lobby, i didn't know what that was at the time and thankfully my champion was banned which made me dodge. This is terrible.
ngl i knew ranked was doomed because how in the hell did my friend placed in eme 1 in just placement when he was plat 4 last season he only won 3 games also im here in a wheelchair in masters trying to get bhiy and my friend is barely able to flash an ahri e at max range and still able to climb this shit easily naah
Played for 11 years. Have never been stuck in silver and gold for more than a week. Even when I was new. Now I am held hostage there by the LP police and the losers queue forcing my winrate to 50% even when I go on a 25 game winstreak.
Funny how this problem is happening in league, i remember the exact same problem when i played smash bros for the first time. Playing against average or above average really ruins the game for the new player :C
New to league, first ever ranked placement game (supp) with a friend (adc, also brand new to League). Diamond IV and high emerald players. The next game, all plats. We were flamed to hell and back--made me never want to touch the game again. That was Rough
It's funny. In dota every hero is viable, he just needs specific situations to shine. In lol whole roles are useless and people still play that shit xD
B-b-but guys, swearing in chat is more toxic and more disturbing, i swear you cant mute people in chat, those guys that DARE to even swear deserve ATLEAST a ban.
@@riccardozanoni2531 Riot puts too much emphasis on chat restricting people who talk and does little to nothing against inters, soft inters, trolls, and smurfs(And no, vanguard is not ingame yet so i dont count it)
@@hyd3334 Well, here's my two cents: first, it is clearly not easy detecting "inters and trolls", since many could just be false positives, and an automated system wouldn't understand the difference. I have no idea what a "soft" inter is, so i can not comment on that. Smurfs are unfortunately allowed by the game's system, and mmr does little to nothing against it. Again, it is quite hard to be effective at tackling such an issue, since mmr only judges win rate, which is not indicative of gameplay level. I'd personally just do nothing about it, remove mmr, make ranks count more, and make newer accounts gain ranks way faster, through maybe an average of won vs lost enemy rankings, like chess does. On the other hand, reporting and banning toxic players is incredibly easy (no false positives, really) and also helps keep the game fun. So, nothing wrong with that.
I wish that ranked had try hards but its mostly griefers. Just shows that riot wants to abuse the players as much as possible when they put unrankeds into Emerald
7:45 that is the cringiest thing ever. Most of those ppl who were yapping about ping changes were just the toxic ones using the pings in a bad behavior. Ping changes has affected me 1-2 times but it’s not a major thing. They did great so shut up. You were already a toxic person so ofc it will trigger you not being able to spam your teammates “Alive” status.
That's why I don't play ranked. Which sucks because I really want to play due to the fact that I've grind my favorite Champs enough to know what I'm doing but these bots and disgusting people ruin it.
Another good way to stop this. Capp all new accounts to bronze. Make it mandatory to be at least level 50 instead of what it is now to play ranked games. And have every account verified via emila phone to be able to playbranked.
Dont forget about those scumbags who purposely loose at end of season ,to not let others climb to master ,grandmaster or challenger. These specimens need to 0 - 1 irl.
when you learn this lesson, there is no online game that will ever tilt you in you're life you cant control other emitions and actions, so its absolutely futile to even try. the only thing you can control is you and you're action and emotions. you actualy dont loose anything and dont realy ear anything life precious winning or loosing. sounds easy? it is, if you apply it there is no perfection, but there is a state of bliss when you embrace imperfection. dont flame, dont tilt, you only hurt youreself. quit if you cant. you get to keep your hair and liver sane. Hug all!
Saying sweats and try hard ruin ranked is dumb. Matchmaking ruined lol. That simple. Its gotten worse because they have lost players and as such widened the gap between teams. This has been occuring for years now. Ranked in different regions is dying. Now its trying to make faker carry iron 4s vs diamonds. All genuinely good players, who don't cheese/cheat/or rig matches unfairly/dodge spam have started quitting ranked enmass because they no longer wish to be 2v8 every game with 3 nearly afk bots after a 13 min que and 3 dodges while autofilled.
Finally, someone says it. If your argument for why the game is balanced hinges on playing 1000s of games to even out terrible odds, you might as well stop pretending it's skill-based and go flip a coin.
The system is worse than that. It tries to force 50% winrate. So if you actively try to climb and don't belong in your division. Congrats. Constant Neverending cycle of winstreak with normal teammates then loss streak with teammates with 15% - 35% winrates till your lp is back to where you started. I've climbed out of iron 7 times and been forced back down 6 times this season alone. I have another account where I'm high Plat and steady with 50% winrate SO FAR. It's outright rigged against the player in all the worst ways
I spent 2 years grinding ranked to go from iron to bronze to silver and eventually trying to hit gold. I ended 2 seasons in a row with overall positive winrates, but I barely moved because my LP gain was worse than my LP loss so my 60% winrate was BARELY making me climb, even after hundreds of matches. It made 0 sense. Then my friend started playing League, went 0-5 in placements, and was handed the Gold rank I had worked so hard for.
Since season 7 I always speed run during the first days to gold and leave/freeze it and then spam only arams because comparing SR to HA, arams games are simply shorter and especailly less toxic.
Ok, I never understood why I get so many unranked ppl on my emerald games, but why in hell games against bots count for MMR? Normal games I get it, that makes sense, but against bots is just impossible to lose, if one person can play so so its already enough to to win the game, even if everyone else is running it down trying to lose
I love these videos where you just talk to the camera. You used one before without your "camera voice" and it felt really genuine! Do more of these please!
Gotta love Rito letting Iron Botters have more prio in the game over people that get upset and type mean words to literal inters and bot farmers.. Griefing and running it down? "Good to GO" Oh you said something mildy bad, "Chat restrict, honor level 1, 5 game ranked penalty"..
0:45 nobody ever complains about ranked ! Im so happy a content creator finally talks about how bad ranked is ! I love when when people say ranked is in a bad spot because of the matchmaking its so fresh, new, never talked about ever and everytime I see this type of videos in my recommended I cant wait to watch my favorite youtuber complain about ranked again !
i love how them "removing smurf queue" has just resulted into having a smurf in every single fucking emerald ranked game because they start out there xDD
People get in emerald 4 with one game ???? Huh??? I play game for almost 6 year and every season i play 10 games of ranked with friends for fun and never get serious but this seasons I decided to climb and got placed in Iron 4 in first game.
Plat Emerald being a mix out of new players, old gold to Diamond, and millions of smurfs, makes ranked unplayable. The moment multiple Challenger streamer say emerald is miserable is the moment i wonder why people play in that elo, flex is better in any way at this point.
Ir my mmr there's only 1 : ff'ing. 14/16 my last losses were 4 teammates ff'ing, sometimes even when we have gold/kills/towers lead, just because someone didn't get a gank or got dove and started running down every lane/afk'ing..
I am convinced the matchmaking is fucked now. I have been getting games that are 99% of the time a one-sided stomp where one team is playing like they are all on voice comms while the other team has everyone on mute and their camera zoomed in all the way. It seems like there is always a jungle or bot that genuinely does not know how to play or really doesn't want to win.
I ended Diamond 4 last season I have a lvl 34 friend who is new In normals I play against silver-gold players. (I have at least 1k games in normals, so it isn't just unadjusted mmr) He plays against plat-emerald players. In normals. And same in Ranked. He has 25% WR. This is not okay.
yup, same with me... lobbies with level 600-700 accounts all the time in normals.... at this point i just play under tower and spectate the game lol (or play aram, that mode seems untouched by smurfs and such)
At this point, we're all insane for playing this game
I quit, and I've never looked back, except with complete relief and the flowers I smell held tightly in my hands
We need new moba, lol is the most played game simply because there aren't better games like this.
(dota 2 is not real competitor)
3 monthes quiting this game and WOnt come back
Thats why the "protest" is so great. Riot clearly doesnt care about fun so maybe they care when the player base shrinks...
i quit when i knew vanguard was coming to the game, this season is horrible too so that also helped on me deciding lmao
I've had ~10 successful reports in the last couple days. It's gotten to the point that I get a "thank you for reporting" box every time I log in lol. What a great state this game is in.
really my reports go totally ignored now
At least 2 Thanks for report everyday, i started to Think that mmr hold me locked in e 3 plus minus 1 division.. No matther how i play how hard i try nah..
Imagine you being a normal player forced to go jungle by your friends and ending up as an example of a iron 4 farmer
with 30000 loss streak ?
understand the game better or dont play. there are tools out there in and out of game for you to play the game properly. learn every role to extent that you can play the game normally at.
@@ryanmccarthy7281 The vast majority of players don't do that, though. There are plenty of OTP-s out there even around challenger, like ScrubNoob and Sinerias. They are really good at the game, have one or two pocket picks if their main gets banned, but they would get absolutely bodied if they are autofilled mid lane for example against an actual challenger mid laner. It's really not that weird, even non-otp players only play at most 3 roles, if you try to be good at everything, you will be good at nothing.
@@ryanmccarthy7281everyone has learn the roles at some point though. You can’t really learn jungle in a bots game beyond basic pathing. Bots wont give you situational pathing or even a jungler to contend with. It’s all free. So in my opinion the best time to learn other roles is a five stack of friends so you’re not ruining a random teammate’s game
@ryanmccarthy7281 you are mental, some uf us have a life
This season has been so fucking weird for me. One day I’ll have 6 straight wins, the next day I’ll demote and theres barely a middle ground. Im not the type of person to be like “i cant climb bc my teammates are bad” but its so weird how just today my first 4 games all had a troll or an afk. On top of this it seems like in every other game one team had a smurf and/or someone who was 2 whole ranks below everyone else. Every session feels like 1 step forward and 3 steps back lmao
feel you, early season i climbed my way into emerald 3 and then had massive lose streaks. im not saying it was all my teammates fault but i did get a lot more inters and poeple giving up only 10 minutes into the game. my winrate is still at a solid 61% btw. i just lost interest to try and climb again after getting demoted to plat 1.
I also climbed to silver 3 (started out in bronze 3-4) and then one day I lost 9 out of 12 games, most of them because of trolls or afk's. I got demoted to bronze eventually and my winrate dropped in that one day from 60% to 54%. Luckily I didn't give up after that and now I'm back in silver 3.
It was normals but dude… I’m Emerald IV and there were 3 Master players in the enemy team and none in my team. How is that? 😂 I was catched off guard for high elo.
It's rigged. This man and Riot vehemently denied losers queue. Riot is Satan. They do this to traumatize little kids.
@@emranaoI was in a plat iv game and I run into masters players all the time. It's rigged
I had a game recently with a Sivir adc in high plat, she looked like she didnt even know what farming was and she admitted in the chat that she was pretty new to the game.
I also had a new player like you just mentioned! It was a lux in low plat that also said she had no clue why she was that high of a rank when shes completely new to the game
"But you're in this elo too"
/s
Plat is shit
The very last game I played today had a Galio mid in it, comp looked good.. until the enemy Yasuo farmed his ass on repeat. Turned out he was lvl 31 and got thrown into the deep end of low plat. We lost.. just when I was on a winning streak too. I wasn't even mad, poor guy has been losing for days.
Well people are also buying accounts too, don’t forget. If you see a Plat or Emerald account with barely any mastery on champs and under 30 ranked games, it’s probably a Smurf. Which means they will run it or for fun their gameplay. Or in rare cases carry.
One of the worst decisions Riot did was making the entire ranking process super quick. The matchmaking system can't correctly set a players skill anymore so the skill differences within games are all over the place. It constantly has to predict the skill level which leads to it overshooting or undershooting constantly, leading to "technically" fair but in reality very unfair matches
You're probably right about this. Though I think that if a player is accomplishing 60-70% or higher win rating, they should be greatly accelerated to climbing the through the ranks. I've played just about a 100 games this season, and i was at a 70% win rating, then 60% win rating, and down now to 57% win rating, and I'm still not out of bronze. I had to climb out of low Iron btw... Truly unmotivating, hence the reason I haven't played very much in the last couple weeks.
I was really feeling that this season would be the year that I would get through the Gold ceiling, as I've never gotten into Gold, after playing ranked since S3, always getting close in high silver, but never through. I've been playing League since open beta, and I'm not a bad player :(
Check out one of my ranked games I uploaded to my channel this season. I had 35 KDA as ADC and my game still was almost a loss.
Ranking process doesn't have anything to do with matchmaking, the ranks you see are just a skin that don't mean anything so it doesn't affect the quality of games. It does affect people's perception of things though, using real examples from Riot themselves, they made it too easy to rank up compared to demoting last season, which led to insane rank inflation. They also added a new tier of ranks which spread people out more.
Because of those two factors, players with the same MMR could be anywhere from Silver 1 to Emerald 4 which is a crazy gap for players of literally the same skill in the same game, but the matchmaking system was still the same because your rank doesn't really matter, and these players were all roughly low/mid-Gold quality players (pre-Emerald). So the quality of the games stayed the same, but because of the wide of ranks, people perceive it differently.
@@Riaining7 dont play adc rn its an useless role currently
Seems like lol is going the same thing with lol as they did with wr. Basically boosting up new players to higher ranks for that sweet dopamine kick thus motivating them to buy skins, wild pass etc, while at the same time driving away their old player or "forcing them" into smurfing/turning them even more toxic.
this video also doesn't bring up the fact that a lot of people with "old" accounts (like me) usually get like +20 lp for win and lose -30 for loss, making it that much worse when you run into iron inters on your main account. There is literally 0 upside to not making a new account. Ridiculous that riot is basically forcing you to smurf if you want to play ranked.
Staring s3 I agree with this. Only problem for me is I’ve spent so much money on skins and I genuinely enjoy using them a lot it’s hard for me to start anew
There is an upside though: Riot can then boast about having a lot of new accounts playing on their games every month.
this doesnt happen anymore they changed the mmr system this split
@@rhombus636XDDD I've lost lile 7 games in a row on e4/p1 and now im getting -32 +17 and I just keep falling down XDDD
How the fk did they fix the problem? Like atleast let me reset my mmr dudes, ok put me back to p4 BUT give me my fkin normal lp gains! I wish there was a 'drop a rank button but equalise your mmr' so I don't have to play 100 games to drop down a whole division and normalise my LP gains
@@rhombus636why u lying
I literally had an iron 1 in my gold 1 game. The enemy team had bronze 4. They could not duo because everyone else was gold. And of course, you guessed It, both players got trashed and flamed. 200 years my ass, I want people with neurons in their brain. It is especially bad for me because I play scaling champs top and when my team gets stomped, I just lose. I just have these games over and over again and I am sick of it.
This was me. Bronze IV in a game with 9 golds. I right off the bat said sorry and luckily my team was forgiving.
@@sunnydargonnel Don’t hate the player, hate the game. It’s not your fault, you did not choose that lobby after all.
It's been going on since the creation of the hidden mmr and removal of elo. I used to be silver in season 3 and in all my matches I would get full teams of gold all the time while being the only silver and I was unable to rank up. Ranked is just a time sink to hook you on the game and create an addiction. If they cared elo system would be back and hidden mmr disappear but that would put to light all the shenanigans they do to create league junkies.
@@cloudwalker9572 hello , i'm one of those junkies , i used to be silver in season 3 just like you , when i started ranked , and i had the same experience you had. in fact i learned a lot about the game because i wanted to be better , and from s3 to now , i can say it , i'm better than before. really. but despite trying again and again , i never reached out of silver. last month i reached a point i could never imagine and that has never happened , i was demoted to bronze and it was the final blow to my mind , i raged-uninstalled. 3 weeks later i reinstalled , did 1 aram ; matchmaking enemy : 1 master with 4 premades all high elo ; mine? me + 3 new players under lvl20 and one iron.... feels like i'm beeing punished and i dont even know why.
@@cloudwalker9572just get better bro. Give me your account and i will go to diamond in 50 games. Just get better.
Valve fixed this for Dota by demanding cell phone numbers be connected to any account trying to play ranked. It sucks a lot for people that can't afford cell phones, but for the rest of us it has meant an incredible reduction in smurfs and bots
Not being able to afford a cellphone while having a PC capable of playing DOTA + internet seems like someone making excuses so they can keep smurfing tbh.
@@victorlotz3457This is the logic, yes.
Doesn't League do this for Clash Tournaments? It's literally already implemented in the client
@@captainnebraska3197 yes they do
@@victorlotz3457 ikr?? Who uses this excuse?!
Quit it after 1 week of S14.
Game has been dying for 2-3 seasons and Phreak has been happily nailing the coffin while arrogantly making all the wrong decisions based on misleading reasons (champion changes, pings, chat, placements, items, preseason is gone...)
Feels good to be set free after 10 years though.
No one ever really quits league. Even if it takes you 5 years like me, you’ll be back.. see you soon.
@@NimaLema you're half right. You can enjoy league content and pro play just like any other game you don't play anymore.
I been moba free (LoL and dota) for almost 7 years now, it will be hard, its hard to not play as much with friends that stay, and harder to find a go to game to chill.. but you will be happier, go to the gym bro you will feel better in the end
@@NimaLema projecting hard
@@factspitta7224 maybe but I also seen the same from my friends
Dude i'm Emerald 3 atm, I have at least 2 smurfs every single game. Level 3X. How can Riot claim that their matchmaking is fair ??????
And the players either goes teemo 0/15 or Kayn 15/0. It's ruining the fun coz it makes it even harder for me to actually have an impact.
Also they are toxic as hell since they bought the account for a couple of € or $ and don't give a shit if it gets banned.
It's been 2-3 years already and Riot doesn't care at all.
And yeah, as u mentionned, new players get veeery often mistaken by Riot for smurfs.
Fk Smurfs
i agree mostly, but riot has tried fixing this in the past and honestly has worked somewhat
ofc its not perfect and still needs a TON of improvement, but one major change is that they removed the effect that your physical rank (being bronze, silver, emerald) has on your matchmaking aka they only take your mmr into account
not to invalidate your feelings but you're emerald 3, which is relatively high on the ladder
if the level 3X's are there, that means the system has recognized they are smurfs/good at the game and placed them with higher mmr folks
MUCH MUCH better that they are playing against emerald players than "stuck" in silver or gold stomping players who aren't as good as them
then again, i still agree that riot needs to take a MUCH more active role in many of the problems than making bandaid fixes that solve only part of it
I doubt you have 2 smurfs every game, also some games it might not be a smurf problem just that the other is an inter and feeding. Emerald is a weird rank cause some games it feels like a high elo game and others make it seem like Iron and they run around like headless chickens doing nothing, and that makes the normal emerald player stand out but still not being a smurf.
Emerald is the worst rank ever. 90% of games are one side stomping the other. There are rarely games that feel like it’s a fair match. I’ve lost track of how many teammates I had that feed, then whoever got fed on the enemy team just steamrolls everyone and it’s literally impossible to counter it. I look at these feeders accounts and they have 10+ loss streaks yet still manage to stay in Emerald because occasionally they match against people who somehow suck even more than them…
I dont think you are getting smurfs in your games but your teammates might just be hard inting against your opoments the reason why im saying this is because most players who smurf come from diamond or low master elo because when they find someone whos above 200 lp in master and crushes them in laning phase their ego gets hurt and they turn to smurfing now heres the thing the amount of players in diamond and apex leagues is objectively very small and the majority are still looking to climb and improve or are just mad fkers who spam shit tone of games cuz they are too angry because they are hard stuck to actually put in the work to climb anyway so the amount of players who would smurf is even lower which implies that the chance of getting one smurf are already low and for 2 of them even lower even i am getting a lot of inters especially in bot lane who go 5/20 in a d1 master games so i can only imagine what might be happening in the lower ranks
i dont think its " dont care"
its just nigh impossible to make a system to catch them, so what are you going to do to stop them from doing it?
The problem with new accounts is primarly that there are likely more smurfs than actual new players.
My working theory for a long time is that there haven't been any unironically new players since around 2015 and it's been nothing but smurfs and burner troll accounts since then.🙃
They should take a note from Dota 2's book and require all accounts to have a valid phone number before they can play ranked, so that it's much much harder to create alternate accounts.
Finished in D4 last season. This season riot's beautiful system put me in G2 and basically locked me into mid plat, the second I get to P1 afks, disco Nunus, bots and griefers.
I remember Riot said 'we want players to always have a goal in mind'
well that goal is climbing back up to your peak twice a year
Bro literally me. I got to d4 with 74% wr. I said I got my goal rank and will not play ranked anymore(lasted 3 weeks then went back to playing ranked). I kid you not every single game after that 0/30 bot lanes, troll picks running it down, junglers inting my lane, afks, ect. Now im dragged all the way down to plat 2 with a 47% wr hardstuck. dog shit game and company.
nah you were straight boosted. no way you are stuck in plat if you were diamond last season. you just got lucky then.
@@Okami400 did you not watch the whole video?
@@nu_kercat1 yes? what does that change?
I saw a riot post that was like, (paraphrased) "losers queue doesn't exist and we've fixed mmr, you wont get people outside your rank anymore" and I've had more matches where we've been fighting golds while having silver and irons on our teams as gold-silver rank...like 3 matches in a row with Iron 2s .
Riot really trying to gaslight their playerbase as if theyre kindergarteners that will believe anything you tell them.
fix mmr XDDD
oh guys check before you do -35 and + 26 damn now you gain 30 but loose 38 xd fixed gain more and loose more i fkcing have 50% wnr ok cool funny haha
i win 25 lp do 4 win win at the 4th win 16 lp why riot ? but when i loose 2 game in row the next loose is not the same as win -__- i loose more the game actually is fucked really you go ranked game are horrible when you have every game the lvl 30 acc ready to win or int but chetaer are the problem when in fkcing plat 4 i tag fkcing plat 2 who buy his account just fklcing 1 week ago like wtff riot account spam bot only and strange moove go straight ranked only and loose i loose too many game by this joke and yeah vanguard gonna just do nothing to this because i feel cheater are totally invisible more high you go more ez is to spot the cheat but yeah riot gonna do shit moove like every time this game gonna be same as forza lazy ppl doing lazy shit
True I'm hardstuck iron and I constantly get put vs golds like 50% of games and many of them I lose them even winning my lane because MY TEAMMATES AREN'T GOLD they are iron too but the TRUE IRON low mmr if u know what I mean
If I am not in losers queue then losers q doesn't exist lmao
@@Rickkhry hahah yeah ppl speak about this and tell us this is fake when I win many game the same day I got for 100% a game with ppl who run down or don't play or the 0/4 top still fight and int more
5:40 the player also changed the key on which he uses Flash
The reason I finally quit league is that I'm a low silver player at BEST, and yet every game I played across every game mode was routinely against Plat and emerald players. I literally couldn't play the game and it was just far too frustrating. I know I'm not a good player and I don't have the time to practice or get better, but I really shouldn't have to.
im struggling with the same thing. i'm literally unable to play against the players im matched against and it's so frustrating
ok so it's just not me going crazy. I know a lot more about the game than any silver player (watched a lot youtubers play over the years) and been playing this game for many many years. Yet I can never get out of silver elo because every game is literally a coinflip. I had a hunch about this and now it's confirmed after watching this.
That's why I started a new account and it got me to Gold. Bro Silver players are braindead asf, worse than Bronze. I climbed the past year from Iron 2 to Gold 4. I feel you man. @@janmajnik6889
I been moba free (LoL and dota) for almost 7 years now, maybe quit tbh.. it will be hard, its hard to not play as much with friends that stay, and harder to find a go to game to chill.. but you will be happier, go to the gym bro, play other games, look for offline single player games too, you will feel better in the end
@@janmajnik6889trust me its not working like that. If you are stuck in a elo, your actual elo is really close to that. For 8 years i said the same but looking at back i was actually not good. You just feel like it, you get better by playing. My first time playing placement i got silver 3, in 1 month i climbed to gold at 11, 2 years later platinum at 13. Diamond in 1 years at 14. masters in 2 years at 16. And hit gm+ after 1 year and still gm for 2 years euw. This is how it goes it takes alot of time to climb. And every rank ive been in i said the same as you. To rank up you just need to play the game which is the sad reality of the game.
Me: has to try not to pull my hair out every season to climb from bronze to gold
New accounts: haha emerald go brrr
go brrr bk to bronz where u belong :))
Okay, granted, with this skill discrepancy you might get emerald, but you will fall back to silver where you belong eventually.
Meanwhile my main and kinda only acc I use to play in gen or ranked.. was stuck in iron for the longest and I hit bronze after a lot of spam and luck... DUDE FOR FK SAKES I'm one of the best players in the world and best and only tactician... I even fking came up with solo Baron for Aphelios and I did it fast and have it on my channel ffs xdddddddd
@@cazimim3375this is satire right?
@@faruki9267 Aphelioooooosuuu is the video
Finally someone is talking about new players' fucked up rankings! Me and my boyfriend have just started playing ranked a couple months ago and after initial (all lost!!!) games got placed in plat. We were so confused cause we couldn't even find any people talking about similar cases at the time. The path down elos is so demotivating and I felt really bad for the players who were actually in the right elo. Basically, extremely fucked up experience for everyone. We just returned to playing ARAM for the time being for the sake of our sanity 💀💀💀
I wouldn’t play ranked until you have a solid grasp of the game, there’s a lot to learn and a ton of depth to the game, I recommend playing draft until you’re confident in your abilities and champion knowledge. Of course, you don’t have to play ranked at all, a lot of people play casually too, whichever is more fun
@@coldresin that's some good advice, yeah. We played draft for a bit before ranked (definitely not enough tho) and then decided to just get over with placement matches, cause, yk, why not, what could go wrong hahah
Went so wrong obviously
@@coldresingetting a grasp of the game is what iron, bronze and silver are for
@@josuke3698 And normal games and bot games? :/
@@coldresin to give u something to play other than ranked
What makes it difficult is not just running into fresh players. Newer players youll eventually not see, and smurfs (if they arent actually griefing to drop levels) will eventually climb. But the issue is more in the sense of higher rank individuals soft inting games to try to get the game lost to start the next one. So youll get an Em. player just giving up and running it because they got a new player on their team and its "not worth playing."
So as much as i hate new players, i hate my peer veterans for being weak mentalled little plebs.
i started my league acc in like 2018 or so but didn't hit level 30 to play ranked until a few days ago when i wanted to hop back on, and i feel so bad for my team having to put up with me and flaming me every game😭😭😭
@@classified5401i started in 2015 as well and wanted tk game again (i sucked then and still do) I'm only iron!!! Lowest of lows!!!! I wanna game but i feel bad cause I'm terrible!
Recently hit iron iv man, the game is quite difficult
@bltelysian yayyy!!!! Your comment made me feel better.
Honestly i even started a twich account yearrrsss ago, roughly 2015ish also and i wanted to stream and was always ashamed of always losing!
Never surrender mentality is a ridiculous waste of time, which is probably exactly what forces those players into this behaviour. Hate u likewise bro. Anyhow I dont play LoL anymore.
The community is also part of the problem, lets say a new player does get put in with good players, they wont teach him how to play they will just cry and cry
You should know how to play by the time you are allowed to queue for ranked. it's level 30 requirement and that takes a long ass time to get to. More than enough time to at least know the basics.
After my friends convinced me to play ranked for the first time in like 2 years, I am placed in Plat 1 in flex after 4 placement games. We lost all of them miserably, and I did nothing in them. I just don't get this at all
No joke, the last 20 games my mid and/or bot literally goes 1/9. It’s not even about carrying, the match making is not balanced.
Lmao, I've been saying this for a while. My main account is stuck in emerald, i had 80% win rate and i was losing WAY MORE than I was winning even after win streaks, good kda and everything, so naturally, I stopped playing on it. Made a "smurf" aka a new account, got dropped into plat. Ranked is a fcking joke lol. Ps, losers que is fcking real. There's more than enough proof for it. Oh yeah, also funny how "balanced" the matchmaking is when there are low golds in emerald games or silver in plat games. IT MAKES NO SENSE, like tf is riot even doing???
The solution is actually pretty easy:
Require a verification process for ranked play. You could do that by a phone number. That will not eliminate all of them. But it makes it considerably harder to smurf and evade bans.
they'll never do this because new account are profitable for riot. People buy boost, skins, get banned, and restart while riot takes the money
This is what Dota 2 does and it works well.
The funny part is that the balancing is not only a ranked problem. I've been learning the game with my brother and girlfriend in the last weeks, and in low level quickplay games, we're NEVER playing against low level players. It's ALWAYS lvl 200+ players, with more than 300k mastery points, and they ALWAYS run us down. It's ridiculous. Every game we're always thinking about just giving up and quitting.
Do all yourselves a favor and quit. If you think about quitting then quit, don't half ass it, it's a bad habit to stuck with things that are hurting you. There's so many better things in life than playing league.
same, i'm playing draft normals all the time, i'm no more than bronze level and my micro and macro is not good, i'm getting plats/emeralds all the time and even diamonds sometimes as my opponents and funny thing is my teammates always maximum silver or gold. this is leading a huge losing streak and unfun games and when i win 1 out of 10 games its because i get those plats and emeralds as teammates and the enemy team getting bronze/silvers. Yes since its normals i'm not losing anything but still i'm not having fun by getting stomped by high elo players.
i can't talk about ranked since i'm not playing there but there is something wrong with the matchmaking in normals and aram now. in season 13 everything was decent for me but on season 14 its unplayable.
Trust me, just keep playing and learning the game. Dont focus on the losses, but learning the character and lane you are playing. Once you have a decent understanding of the game, you will see that those people you were against were not good. lol mastery 9/10 times means nothing.
@@MrDT2012 you acknowledged nothing about the current state of the game and instead blamed the player. Typical Riot enabling fanboy
I been moba free (LoL and dota) for almost 7 years now, maybe quit tbh.. it will be hard, its hard to not play as much with friends that stay, and harder to find a go to game to chill.. but you will be happier, go to the gym bro, play other games, look for offline single player games too, you will feel better in the end
Why would I want to play a game that intentionally sabotages my gameplay experience by manipulating matchmaking and win/loss ratios
more important reason is that every win u get 18 lp and every lost you lose 30, how one suppose to climb?
You don't. It will take hundreds of games for your MMR to catch up to your rank to get normal LP again. You are better off with a new acvount.
@@herpderp66 lol nice, great design
I actually quit ranked when I finally hit plat for the first time last split only to realize fresh accounts were getting placed where I had to grind to... fuck Riotgames and LoL, I QUIT!!!
I quit and will not go back, there has been a HUGE spike in both "free win" and "free loss" scenarios. They have prioritized, over most things it seems, any given account winning 50 out of 100 games, instead of each having a 50% chance to win any given game.
75% of the games you play are free win or free loss nowadays. Yep.
If you like MOBAs, you should try Dota 2. It's in the best state it's ever been in.
i'm totally sick of being gaslit into believing it's my fault i have 5 losses in a row when i did the most damage with high KDA in those games
I have noticed that if you win like 8 games in a row, your next game will without a doubt be a robot game .
Another root of the problem is that the MMR system is based purely on winning or loosing a game. Nothing takes into account individual performance in a game mode where individual performance is what decides the issue of a match most of the times. I once had an int feeder yasuo midlaner in my game. He went 1/25, we managed to win despite him, and this allowed him to improve his MMR. He should have lost MMR instead.
100% facts. I have hit gold every season on my main account from bronze. But could never hit plat. Always grinding with like +12 LP gains
This season I created a new fresh account and try harded in norms and bot games until I got ranked unlocked. I placed gold 1 after placements and then hit plat for the first time ever in like 3 days lol. Def a rigged system.
Also on my main account I’m kinda just playing whatever I want and having fun instead of tryharding and it demoted to iron from gold. But there is no skill difference imo from high iron to low gold. I play in Korea tho so might be deifferent for other regions. Plat tho is noticeably different in terms of overall game quality I will say
I've come across these bots, they were a duo bot lane. The moment they were in lobby they'd ban champions the ally team hovered. Ran it down in game. Always the same build (Jaksho first item). It's absolutely disgusting.
The better I get the more trolls I get
maybe the solution is to play worse to get better teammates then?
@@Eukalyptus- you know that’s an idea
I rather have this feeling : the more often I play the sharper I get the more trolls I get
The solution: don't play this game. You could do so much more in your life if you dropped this game.
@@cloudwalker9572 +1 I stopped playing LoL aroun 2023 nov. And now i have much more time. I started playing more single player games insted (around 1-2hour a day at weekends) and its so peaceful. I love League, i mean the champs, the lore. I think its really good, but the gameplay itselfe, and the community.... Well its the opposite.... xD
nah, gotta disagree on the protest part. its genius the more you think about it, and encouraging. Imagine you find a cheat in the game, and report it. if the devs dont listen, the best way to make them listen is to exploit it. Eventually, if you play the bad guy long enough, you'll make everyone else's experience worse but improve the game in the long run once the devs care enough.
it's also crazy that on a base level this is a 5v5 designed game, and yet we're all supposed to solo/duo queue. it's insanely silly, if the game is a team game, people should be playing in teams.
For the first point, this has always been a problem and is somehow only worse now.
I first started playing League in 2019. When I hit around level 30, I decided to give ranked a crack. I was immediately put into games with people who were LEVEL TWO HUNDRED. I got completely demolished, screamed at, probably reported and lost every single placement game. I did not play ranked for three years after that. Late last year and early this year have been the first times I have actually started to play ranked again, and it makes me so angry that somehow this problem is even WORSE now!
youre the problem
@@ok-vh7rz Yeah, level 30 is FAR too early to play ranked, it should be at least 50 imo, and it would make bot account farming worse too so it’s a double win
i’ve been having +22 -28 lp all season so far, usually around high gold - low plat but the teammates recently have been unbearable. it’s either i absolutely stomp but my team is doing terrible/trolling, or i get smurfed on and the game is now unplayable. idk what’s happening but it has been basically unplayable.
the ppl u call smurf are actualy real gold low plat and u lose cause u don't belong there u don't have knowledge to beat them and that's why u call them "smurfs" but there not they just put more time in to the game then u if u cant win at least 2 games in a row u dont belong there its why u get 22 lp and u lose 28 cause u probably win 1 lose 1 u need to win more then u lose to stay in that rank or u don't belong there and the system is trying to fix that for u by derank u to ur rank
@@zack164 false you can see if someone is a smurf, you also can bringt them easily to admit so its easier for you to report and get them banned. Just ask them if they cheat and when they say they are just better than ask them why they are in Bronze and than they will admit that they are smurfing. Easy report, easy ban.
But Riots has to change the creation of the account, it has to been connected to your passport so everyone can only make one account.
Then your enemies have low mmr, and your teammates have high mmr
on EUNE i had large loserq, playing adc, many times having botting supp, top that lose lane in 10 mins, which leads to lost games, being panalized for riots fault, getting even in worst state -38 / +17. Its pathetic system, to go neutral from this one -38 lp game, you have to win like 2.4 games in a row. Somehow i fixed that switching to top lane to have more control.
I transfered my acc to EUW, hoping ppl will be better there. But no. Placements were 1 big troll fiesta, 2 games in a row ppl banned each other champ, 1 game was dodged insta, other no and was lost. And im facing again losers q, +19/-30.
This LP system is designed to pull you down.
It should be max +/- 20-25 and there would be no problem to easier gain back rank.
Also funny is that always when i had botting support in game, it was always in my team. Will compensate my lost LP because of bots ? NO. fck them, i hope they go bancrupt. Only time when i gave them money was for transfer acc.
the guy protesting is proving a point actually. "I Soft int and riot doesnt care" and its true, sad but true
SOLUTION: You should gain/lose LP based on your performance during the game, not on a win/lose because it's SOLO queue.
HOW? They can train a deep learning model to process each player individually and decide how much LP to give/remove based on his overall performance, you can lose a game, but you played well, then you should gain LP (it's complicated, but it's RIOT)
With this change, it will force players to actually do their best, because they will not gain much LP even if they won the game but played poorly. Now, even when you are losing a game, your time is not wasted completely if you play well
For this to happen and give accurate LP, the AI must be way better at the game than ALL players by far. As a team, the AI should have 99% win rate against Pros, so that it understands the full spectrum and all the complexity in a League of Legends game, so it can accurately judge your performance.
This video made me so mad, I won my 5 first placement games and got bronze 2.
Then +23 then next game -24lp.
F this game.
you can create a new account and grind it out and maybe hit silver or you can grind one role, get good at it, win more than 50% and et voila
@@Livius_42 I am silver, its just a pain in the ass that you bring baggage from your last season, like if in any competitive you ''pop off", you get rewarded. In CSGO sometimes after 2-3 wins you rank up. In league you sometimes can stay in bronze 1 - silver 3 for weeks
@@mrfright7913 you pretend as if ranking up in league is some kind of witchcraft.
Just have above 50% winrate and you'll climb. If you feel like playing more rank as a constant threat due to potentially losing LP even, then it's simply proof that you are in the rank you belong to.
You gain almost 25 LP? that's almost 1/4 of the entire division!
win four games in a row? most likely a promotion. Win even more in average and you probably skip divisions
@@Livius_42 Im sorry, but in no competitive game ever do you get less "lp" for winning than when you lose, league is the only exception to this, its only logical that you should get rewarded for winning because its harder to do than losing.
@@Jlezy if winning is harder than losing then you are A. in your right rank or B. ready to start grinding and git good. League has ALWAYS been a disgusting grind, still is and the fact that you constantly have to make the decision to blame yourself and push yourself OR blame your team or the game or other factors that you can't influence. Remember - at the end of the day, all players combined make a 50/50 win lose
Came back to the game after years of playing back in the day. Was gold near platinum. Came back, won 4/5 of my placement matches. Got put in iron 2. Fell to the bottom of iron for not being able to carry hard enough. Met a duo and we immediately turned around to climb to the top of iron in a week with an 80% winrate. Then they quit playing and now I am trying to get out of iron again. Sadly, I constantly get unwinnable games. Either the enemy team has smurfs that dunk on my team members, or my team members can't do basic shit like CS, OR I get paired with a troll feeding.
I'm trying to delude myself I can keep climbing without going support for a duo and just winning mid. Have considered changing my mids to something more impactful.
I've personnaly never trusted solo ranked queues , never been interested in who have the biggest Duck and can carry everyone solo, it's a team game and i've always followed that path whether it was before (ranked team rankeds good old times , god i miss teams rankeds with our tags on) , or now flexs, and i personnaly enjoyed all my games (can't say the same for my friends LOL) , playing the game as intended. As a team
I used to be one of these people. I ruined over 1k games between 2018-2021. Absolutely one of the darkest times of my life, extremely grateful to be free of this game lol
im a bronze player in my 3rd season since i started in 2022, i recently promototed to b4 for the second season in a row, iu still have negative lp gains despite running into gold plat players regularly in my normals. as soon as i hit bronze i get fckd to death being the only bronze player in a gold elo game, which is leading to insane amounts of toxicitity from the entire lobby (and i disagree, i am not responsible for being in this game so everybody insulting in super-inhumane ways isnt relatable, they should be peramnently banned tbh), this is happening til im iron 1 again where i easily rank up, just to run into my next gold lobby. (and all of this with -7 lp average gains)
Its not rank thats important its the hidden mmr, so those goldirs have low mmr and you have high mmr
@@ozymandias8523Still, I don't get why they get punished so hard for losing, like how can a gold meet a bronze and still get to be gold? It's not like there's not enough players to match them against in silver. Rank doesn't matter? Sure, except being high MMR doesn't actually give any reward. Most people are only driven to play ranked to get the skin In G4, .
@@wanyshu1671 yeah riot just this patch is going fo increase the penalty for deranking so lots of those goldies gonna become silver soon
My account winrate is over 50%
My character win rate on three champions is 70%
I'm addicted for a good reason damnit
This season has been hell even for me and it doesn't help im in lower elo. Last season I got to silver from Bronze 4 out of my placements in like less than 10 games. Now I am actually stuck in silver4-bronze1 limbo cuz EVERY GAME I get someone with weak mental who threatens to run it down, actually runs it down, and/or spams ff in chat as early as 2 MINUTES IN before afking. I even got blessed with a Brand bot support in my ranked game (cuz Yuumi was banned) who did nothing but afk under tower and purchased dreammaker as his supp item. LOVE THIS SEASON!
Brand supports are the worst fr! xD
no offense if ur stuck in bronze 1/silver 4 then its probably cause ur bad and not ur teams fault
@dracocrash1 nah I already ranked back up to gold and climbing. But every time we lose it's someone on my team forcing an ff and then crying games over before running it down. Maybe don't be a baby and play the game out and we win c: esp when I play Smolder kthnks
@@cosmicbrownie2312 I feel it. This plus the fact that I don't play ranked that active is the reason why I'm mostly stuck in Bronze. The mental is just so weak in low elo, people just can't put aside their differences to try and win, which would make everyone on the team happy in the end. It's so annoying. I just have to play more active, I guess
Riot matchmaking is fucking joke, i just had a unranked new lvl 31 account in my plat games as mid, he fed yasuo 12 0 and whole team got tilted, fucking riot
I play ranked for the competitive aspect and to push myself to improve. That does not mean I only enjoy the games I win. I also play chess and I play in tournaments, enjoying the competitive aspect beyond only the dopamine rush of winning. Claiming people play ranked for the dopamine rush from winning "including [you]" while also saying that "that is besides the point" and "ranked is objectively miserable" really just sounds like you projecting your inability to enjoy competition. Enjoying winning is not the same as enjoying competition.
Solution: bring back 3v3 and give us aram ranked. Fuck the rift
But remember, "elo hell doesn't exist" "it's just you being bad at the game".
I've had this told to me from so many "high elo players" its actually insane. I started playing in season 2, hit silver ONE TIME in season 5. After that I noticed bots from hell & its just been getting worst and worst each year. I've even run into the accounts that bluntly post their youtube OF THEM RUNNING IT DOWN! I've reported these accounts & dead ass nothing gets done. Like thank god to those that made Blitz & Porofessor. Because now I could truly see im not insane & ive been getting cheated for yeaaaaaars. And the fact "just now" said something about this 10+ year problem is actual insanity.
I remember going to a Tyler1 stream when they released the "hiding of names" being told "its making the game better because you have fewer dodges at the start."
All this did was piss me off even more because now it meant the person 1st picking Soraka or Yuumi was either real or fake & now that it was the same on Blitz/Porofess, I now couldn't dodge until the match started. Which now meant you're at the mercy of a shit list of problems: its a bot account that's gonna do nothing, its a bot account thats gonna feed 3-4 times then leave lane, its a bot thats gonna feed then leave the game at 15mins, its not just 1 bot its a duo so 1 lane is shit & the other is 20/0/0; or a duo & they both shit, etc etc. To have that many issues to worry about before even doing anything is already destroying the mental & now the game starts lol.
Its actually insane to a point of being just beyond sad that dam near everything I just watched, I've seen in a game. Just this past week.... Tbh I could give 2 shits about Vanguard. I doubt it'll fix anything since websites & people will find a work around like they've been doing.
Riot give me a job where I do my normal gaming & reporting. You'll be rich & I'll be an empty shell of my former sanity.
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My friend says he reports anybody who shows any form of malice such as non stop ping harassing or champselect mishover trolls, even dc's, or even if they type too much (his reasoning is that they cannot use their skills when chatbar is opened and are proned to feeding and/or distracted). He mentions how he gets unskilled players, he stays quiet however bad they are performing, after they feed hard and start venting and flaming on the team and he just silently reports them. Last thing he told me was Split and Season 14 are the worst.
If the iron 4 boosters is true, bronze-gold has to be the most miserable elo to play if that's your real rank, my god lol. You either get paired with smurfs trying to win, or people losing on purpose.
That's about it. I ranked through this shit from bronze 3 to gold 2, then I was stuck between gold 4-2 because in every single game I would either have trolls/bots/afk/leavers/smurfs in my team or in enemy team non stop. I just uninstalled , this season is pure garbage. (mind you I don't care about the climb, its just no game was fun like at all, no matter if it was a win or a lose)
Currently stuck in bronze because I often get gold-emerald opponents while having iron team mates.
I can confirm. I'm playing the game for 8 years and I can't get out of silver with my mains.. this game has truly become a joke.
I gave up on playing league when they went hard on the reporting people for even typing 8 words in a game. All it did was give the trolls and bots the power and hostage take situations. I still watch the LCS and world's content but its just not worth playing the game anymore when riot leaves the game in such a toxic state. I am sad to see it looks even worse now, but maybe I dodged a bullet then. It sucks cause I watch those games and think dang I wanna play again then remember I wont get players that want to play on my team and decide against it.
My friend that averages 3 cs per min in mid lane got placed in Plat 2….
well, i usually have around 4-5 cs/min... i get plat/emerald players even in my normal games.... the matchmaking system is a total joke.
Im 30 years old and I play league since I was 20. I tryharded alot over the years, otp´d anivia back in the day etc but I dont have the time for this game anymore because I have to work everyday.
Its actually not even a ranked problem. I mostly play normal games with friends after work and were a really casual group. None of my friends is ranked higher than silver at best and Im just a Plat 2 clown, but I swear we play every game with and against low level 30-40 smurf accounts who are clearly diamond + and all of my friends just get completely smacked. Idk what happend but this was never the case before. We cant really play the game together and have fun since this smurf shit began half a year ago or whatever (remember in normals).
I reaaally dont get why this is the case in freaking normal games man. I still love this game, its my absolute favourite but its actually getting hard to have fun even tho Im not a tilting player, because I and my friends actually dont have a fair chance to play the game.
this is the worst season so far. ive been master tier for years and now im stuck in emerald 2. like legit every game is losers queue
I've started off in bronze 4, and every single game including placements im just getting matched with trollers who're purposely only in queues to spoil games for people, I'm currently on a 12+ loss streak over the span of 4 days, non of these players are even trying, literally just running into the enemy towers or flaming/taunting the enemy players in all chat until they purposely throw the match when we're at the end, mean while the enemies i feel like im playing against diamond+ players who're all in a 5 person group fully coordinated. Quite frankly, i'm just exhausted mentally, all i can do is report them and try and give details but riot has done nothing to any of the players who're only here to grief.
League is just miserable in general, not ranked alone... And the reason for it just boils down to riot not giving a crap and focusing on the wrong parts of the game.
Now is probably a good time to switch to Dota 2, since it keeps improving with every update while League continues to be a dumpster fire.
"If you lose it's a you problem, analyze your gameplay and get better"
Ranked is better than ever. But if you demote then you will blame the system.
This season has been terrible (for me at least). Usually i'm around high Emerald but this season i'm Plat 4 and still going down.
I don't wanna be that guy who is like "my team mates are terrible and i should be higher rank than them", but honestly, that's how i feel, i've not had such a major ranked problem ever.
I haven't seen such questionable plays in my own rank for many years.
Dude i seriously dont get it, ive been gold-play for the past year, and the last two splits of ranked (2023) were pretty normal, like games felt fair and i won when i shouldve and lost when i should but this season has been an absolute joke and i have no idea what happened. Literally EVERY game i have a teamate troll pick, someone has 5 deaths at 5 minutes and the toxicity from these idiots has been incredible. Ive never been more tilted before then i am with league at the moment
Start a new acc and giga boost it to emerald , then play there when rank sucks , should solve your issue
@@LeoLeo- the solution is to dump my 10+ year old account? i would rather stop playing the game then.
Nah dude you good. It really is our teammates. Blaming ourselves for others would just make us insane and it wouldnt be fair to us. If you have the most money and damage and objective damage. You good
@@joshuavillagomez8369 i've been blaming myself for not reaching the rank i want each season, except this one.
The lvl requirement should be higher before being able to played ranked. That would give new players the chance to learn the game more, and since Vanguard is coming out in LoL soon, botting will be pushed down so people would need to put in effort to level up a smurf account. That's the only thing I came up with.
Maybe let's see first if Vanguard really brings down the number of bots significantly.
@@emilieanneverhaegenWell we gotta hope for that. 😅
I feel like the higher level req would actually help - but only if you remove the XP boosters from the shop, otherwise they'll just buy them and price the account higher when selling it to cover the cost. (but that's unlikely as I imagine those boosters make riot a lot of money via smurfs....)
@@MaxRide1I have no clue how much Riot makes by those EXP boosts, but I like the idea of removing them, since that would be another way to stop them.
League has continuously become easier and easier to play. Like items deal a huge amount of damage now, which means hitting skill shots is less important. Strong new kits with passive dmg % which doesn't require you to do anything but lock in the champion. All of this leads to new&casual players not improving their own skillset as much as people used to. And then riot introduced emerald, and promoted players without them actually trying for it, which I think is unacceptable for a Competetive game. But all these reasons leads to players having an easier& more enjoyable time playing the game, which leads to Riot getting more money. in my opinion, the game in itself has lost a lot of its competitiveness by Riots greedy nature.
Vanguard won't stop the bots. It might reduce scripters, but bots are just too easy to make.
Who would win, a $1000000 anticheat system vs one $20 circuit board boi?
Finally someone speaking true words. Thank you man. I hope more people get to see this video. It is absurd that we all continue to play ranked in league of legends.
Im currently sitting at D4 and i have a bronze friend who i GENUINELY think deserves at least plat, he was telling me about how difficult it is in bronze because of this exact issue. I didnt believe him (because y know you can 1v5 in that elo) but then i spectated his games and its no joke....he mains adc and over half his games the support stands behind tower and afks, the junglers often play the game for the first 5 to 10 min then afk farm literally until the match is over and this exact scenario is every other game for him.
Its fun to torment the bronze though i have 3 acc one i use to climb thats emerald one i use if i dodge too much thats gold and the last one i use to untilt by tilting others that one is in bronze😂
@@gusp1456 psychopath lol
Climbing out of low elo as an adc main is pretty much impossible. I had to resort to jungle carrying to get out of iron.
@@gusp1456 you’re pathetic
If you are D4 you would see that yeah that shit happens and its troll, but not un-winnable if you think he should be Plat lol.
The funny part is that the protest is technically working. You and many other streamers are talking about it and the only way it will stop is if Riot fixes the problems that allow it to happen. This is the definition of a full proof plan. IDK its just weird that you said this "isn't protesting". Which by the way is "the expression of disapproval of or objection to something." which the bot guy is doing and apparently effectively. They're still evil and probably stupid but its working
I just recently got 1 of these "protestors" in my Emerald 1 lobby, i didn't know what that was at the time and thankfully my champion was banned which made me dodge. This is terrible.
But we warn you of what we will do before we do it.
Huh? Why were you not dodging regardless of Jax ban lmao
ngl i knew ranked was doomed because how in the hell did my friend placed in eme 1 in just placement when he was plat 4 last season he only won 3 games also im here in a wheelchair in masters trying to get bhiy and my friend is barely able to flash an ahri e at max range and still able to climb this shit easily naah
worst is players still buy the accounts i think thats the main problem here
Played for 11 years. Have never been stuck in silver and gold for more than a week. Even when I was new. Now I am held hostage there by the LP police and the losers queue forcing my winrate to 50% even when I go on a 25 game winstreak.
Funny how this problem is happening in league, i remember the exact same problem when i played smash bros for the first time. Playing against average or above average really ruins the game for the new player :C
Took me a year or so of going to tournaments and losing horribly before someone could actually explain to me what "fundamentals" meant
It was Izaw
smash online is a joke
@@MakotoOPT Maybe for you but as a new player its not easy
@@_ScarCrow oh no bro I was agreeing with you smash is not goof if you are new because the sweat lords have been on it from day one .
@@MakotoOPT oh my bad then lol
New to league, first ever ranked placement game (supp) with a friend (adc, also brand new to League). Diamond IV and high emerald players. The next game, all plats. We were flamed to hell and back--made me never want to touch the game again. That was Rough
i have crippling depression from league💀
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It's funny. In dota every hero is viable, he just needs specific situations to shine. In lol whole roles are useless and people still play that shit xD
B-b-but guys, swearing in chat is more toxic and more disturbing, i swear you cant mute people in chat, those guys that DARE to even swear deserve ATLEAST a ban.
you know you can mute yourself if you lack self control, right? If you get banned for that, it's all on you
@@riccardozanoni2531 you did not get the point did you...?
@@hyd3334 oh go on, please. Enlighten me with your wisdom
@@riccardozanoni2531 Riot puts too much emphasis on chat restricting people who talk and does little to nothing against inters, soft inters, trolls, and smurfs(And no, vanguard is not ingame yet so i dont count it)
@@hyd3334 Well, here's my two cents: first, it is clearly not easy detecting "inters and trolls", since many could just be false positives, and an automated system wouldn't understand the difference. I have no idea what a "soft" inter is, so i can not comment on that. Smurfs are unfortunately allowed by the game's system, and mmr does little to nothing against it. Again, it is quite hard to be effective at tackling such an issue, since mmr only judges win rate, which is not indicative of gameplay level. I'd personally just do nothing about it, remove mmr, make ranks count more, and make newer accounts gain ranks way faster, through maybe an average of won vs lost enemy rankings, like chess does.
On the other hand, reporting and banning toxic players is incredibly easy (no false positives, really) and also helps keep the game fun. So, nothing wrong with that.
Ranked is dead for years. They have to ban Smurfs ASAP.
I wish that ranked had try hards but its mostly griefers. Just shows that riot wants to abuse the players as much as possible when they put unrankeds into Emerald
7:45 that is the cringiest thing ever. Most of those ppl who were yapping about ping changes were just the toxic ones using the pings in a bad behavior. Ping changes has affected me 1-2 times but it’s not a major thing. They did great so shut up. You were already a toxic person so ofc it will trigger you not being able to spam your teammates “Alive” status.
That's why I don't play ranked. Which sucks because I really want to play due to the fact that I've grind my favorite Champs enough to know what I'm doing but these bots and disgusting people ruin it.
Another good way to stop this. Capp all new accounts to bronze. Make it mandatory to be at least level 50 instead of what it is now to play ranked games. And have every account verified via emila phone to be able to playbranked.
You will be fine. You dont run into these accounts usually. You might have rank anxiety if anything.
@@MrDT2012 don't tell me the truth. Lie to me. Lol
Dont forget about those scumbags who purposely loose at end of season ,to not let others climb to master ,grandmaster or challenger. These specimens need to 0 - 1 irl.
no, they make people wanna quit and even sometimes make people actually quit the game
they are heroes
when you learn this lesson, there is no online game that will ever tilt you in you're life
you cant control other emitions and actions, so its absolutely futile to even try. the only thing you can control is you and you're action and emotions.
you actualy dont loose anything and dont realy ear anything life precious winning or loosing.
sounds easy? it is, if you apply it
there is no perfection, but there is a state of bliss when you embrace imperfection.
dont flame, dont tilt, you only hurt youreself. quit if you cant.
you get to keep your hair and liver sane.
Hug all!
Saying sweats and try hard ruin ranked is dumb.
Matchmaking ruined lol.
That simple.
Its gotten worse because they have lost players and as such widened the gap between teams.
This has been occuring for years now.
Ranked in different regions is dying.
Now its trying to make faker carry iron 4s vs diamonds. All genuinely good players, who don't cheese/cheat/or rig matches unfairly/dodge spam have started quitting ranked enmass because they no longer wish to be 2v8 every game with 3 nearly afk bots after a 13 min que and 3 dodges while autofilled.
Finally, someone says it. If your argument for why the game is balanced hinges on playing 1000s of games to even out terrible odds, you might as well stop pretending it's skill-based and go flip a coin.
The system is worse than that. It tries to force 50% winrate. So if you actively try to climb and don't belong in your division. Congrats. Constant Neverending cycle of winstreak with normal teammates then loss streak with teammates with 15% - 35% winrates till your lp is back to where you started. I've climbed out of iron 7 times and been forced back down 6 times this season alone. I have another account where I'm high Plat and steady with 50% winrate SO FAR. It's outright rigged against the player in all the worst ways
@@symboliccrow what about normal?
I spent 2 years grinding ranked to go from iron to bronze to silver and eventually trying to hit gold. I ended 2 seasons in a row with overall positive winrates, but I barely moved because my LP gain was worse than my LP loss so my 60% winrate was BARELY making me climb, even after hundreds of matches. It made 0 sense.
Then my friend started playing League, went 0-5 in placements, and was handed the Gold rank I had worked so hard for.
Since season 7 I always speed run during the first days to gold and leave/freeze it and then spam only arams because comparing SR to HA, arams games are simply shorter and especailly less toxic.
Ok, I never understood why I get so many unranked ppl on my emerald games, but why in hell games against bots count for MMR? Normal games I get it, that makes sense, but against bots is just impossible to lose, if one person can play so so its already enough to to win the game, even if everyone else is running it down trying to lose
I love these videos where you just talk to the camera. You used one before without your "camera voice" and it felt really genuine! Do more of these please!
Gotta love Rito letting Iron Botters have more prio in the game over people that get upset and type mean words to literal inters and bot farmers.. Griefing and running it down? "Good to GO" Oh you said something mildy bad, "Chat restrict, honor level 1, 5 game ranked penalty"..
0:45 nobody ever complains about ranked ! Im so happy a content creator finally talks about how bad ranked is ! I love when when people say ranked is in a bad spot because of the matchmaking its so fresh, new, never talked about ever and everytime I see this type of videos in my recommended I cant wait to watch my favorite youtuber complain about ranked again !
i love how them "removing smurf queue" has just resulted into having a smurf in every single fucking emerald ranked game because they start out there xDD
People get in emerald 4 with one game ???? Huh??? I play game for almost 6 year and every season i play 10 games of ranked with friends for fun and never get serious but this seasons I decided to climb and got placed in Iron 4 in first game.
It’s silly. I got placed in emerald 2 on 2 accounts, one of which was plat last season. It’s so rigged
Plat Emerald being a mix out of new players, old gold to Diamond, and millions of smurfs, makes ranked unplayable. The moment multiple Challenger streamer say emerald is miserable is the moment i wonder why people play in that elo, flex is better in any way at this point.
Ir my mmr there's only 1 : ff'ing. 14/16 my last losses were 4 teammates ff'ing, sometimes even when we have gold/kills/towers lead, just because someone didn't get a gank or got dove and started running down every lane/afk'ing..
I am convinced the matchmaking is fucked now. I have been getting games that are 99% of the time a one-sided stomp where one team is playing like they are all on voice comms while the other team has everyone on mute and their camera zoomed in all the way. It seems like there is always a jungle or bot that genuinely does not know how to play or really doesn't want to win.
I ended Diamond 4 last season
I have a lvl 34 friend who is new
In normals I play against silver-gold players. (I have at least 1k games in normals, so it isn't just unadjusted mmr)
He plays against plat-emerald players. In normals. And same in Ranked. He has 25% WR.
This is not okay.
yup, same with me... lobbies with level 600-700 accounts all the time in normals.... at this point i just play under tower and spectate the game lol (or play aram, that mode seems untouched by smurfs and such)