Are your favorite REACTORS just PAID ACTORS?
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2022
- Are reactors on RUclips just paid actors for record labels? For this video, I invited Alex Hefner to check out a recent segment that Fox News did on RUclips reactors to discuss some of the things that were brought up.
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If we are getting paid…. They must not know where I live to send my check…..
My boi
they probably send them electronically, which since you have Cox, youre probably screwed lmao
@@blitzofchaosgaming6737 nope
@@OldSkuleNerd I apologize. You aren't one of the reactors they paid. My mistake.
@@blitzofchaosgaming6737 most of these reactors are a JOKE and they are ALL getting paid by foriegn sponsors🤢 I know a RUclipsr that did not want to bash Trump and she did not want to personally endorse a certain product (even though she agreed to have them advertise on her channel) and they tried to take her channel down🤢😡 Hefner and tank are smug lil idiots that bend over for evil foreign sponsors
I don’t know who’s getting paid and just faking it, but when a 30-40 year old “vocal coach” claims their video is the first time hearing an iconic classic rock band, my immediate reaction is, “Bovine scatology!”
Or the guy with a bunch of sports memorabilia in the back ground claims he’s never heard Thunderstruck by AC/DC. Yea right dude..
I am so happy that I'm not the only person who noticed the shenanigans. Or before the first lyric is sung there are running across the room overly excited. 🙄
You get a lot of that stuff. Like now "first time seeing movie" reactions are popular, a lot of these are very famous movies that you really can't not have seen.
@@MxMoondoggie I can understand if you dabble in some movie reactions. Like I’ve never actually watched good fellas or tombstone but they all react to the same movies so that’s how you know it’s fake.
Yeah it's like "hey guys today I'm listening to Queen for the first time!" 🤔
"Authenticity is key"...totally agree! So many times I have seen reactors claim it is the first time listening to a song, and yet they slip and start singing lyrics that they should not know, or anticipate something in the rhythm or beat that they should not be able to anticipate occurring.
Tbf i have seen some reactions where they like to pull up the lyrics as they listen. And ik people like that irl who will look up the lyrics the first time they listen. People value different things in music and there are a lot of people who put lyricism and poetry high on the list.
@@jleighwolfe True, but a lot of times it's just super obvious when somebody has heard a song already. I'm gonna be starting a channel soon and I'm purposefully gonna start with a lot of music that I already have heard and make it known that I've heard it already, but I still enjoy doing deep dives and commenting on music that I love. Like Alex said, I want people to come back for my personality and not necessarily just to listen to music. I spend way more time than I care to admit watching reactions and it's getting all too common where somebody clearly gets WAY too hype. It's like they try to use the NoLifeShaq method of standing up and acting so shocked by everything but they take it to a whole other extreme and it's annoying AF. I immediately notice that and never watch their channel again. Authenticity is key.
Oh there are definitely fake reactions out there, but it is pretty easy to anticipate rhythms and also lyrics often when listening to music for the first time, well it is for me anyway, but I’ve been writing music for over a decade so I guess you get a feel of music after a while
I spent my life listening to songs and imagining introducing other people to the same music and enjoying their experience vicariously. I can only imagine others have done the same.
Same! I enjoy watching some reactions to music for that reason
Same but I have become jaded to a lot of reaction channels. It is weird that almost everyone is positive. You can listen to something outside of your wheel house and enjoy it but most the time there is a reason you don’t and that’s fine but just be honest.
Pity some reactors are all about views and deliberately look for high view counts rather than react to what they like themselves.
I drag as many people to local shows as possible. It's great to see them making it there later!
Us head bangers are becoming senior citizens now. A little Metallica in the nursing home is a good thing.
Say they don't get offers.
Then proceeds to describe the offers they got.
Big difference between record labels offering you money and sponsored content there, chief.
@@TankTheTech You're really splitting hairs with this. Management works on behalf of the bands, and their respective labels, do they not?
This is basically like throwing a fit because someone called a "cook" a "chef". The point is, he was offered a script to do a reaction for incentives. You were offered a script to do a reaction for incentives. Alex was offered monetization incentives for doing vidoes.
And you all said no! I feel like you're all on the same page, on the same side, and this beef is about a minor terminology disagreement.
You all seem like chill people, and this beef you have with him... it's just weird.
@@wewantthecup I felt the exact same thing
Awesome to see two of my favorite reactors at same time
What I enjoy the most from reaction videos is the "innocence" factor of the reactors. First there are the "old" songs I listened to when I was young. It is fun to see the appreciation and the amazement I once felt in those days. In one way I can "re-experience" the works through the reactor's eyes and heart which also serves the sense of nostalgia.
Then there are the "technical" reactors who brings up their technical views on it. (some of them having played in metal bands themselves, some others are vocal coaches, others are working within a studio as producer) Sometimes they are pointing to musical details never noticed by myself for a decade or longer.
Innocence? You mean lying face?
@@thestu059 If the content is good who cares. Acting is lying.
@@CharlieChinchillaTV acting seems more like telling enough truth to make the lies believable than just lying until people believe something.
Almost like Gaslighting lol
@@CharlieChinchillaTV no it’s more like false advertising saying you’ve never heard a song when you for sure have. I love the reactions where they listen to thunderstruck by AC/DC and say they’ve never heard it before but they have a bunch of sports memorabilia in the back ground…really your a sports fan but you’ve never heard one of the most over played sports hype songs of all time? GTFOH
Excited for this one 🤭🤭
😎😎
I guess it’s hard for people to accept that Alex is one of those genuinely excited people and has a upbeat approach. Loved his reactions for years
i love his channel, but i always find myself wondering if he is truly reacting, or acting. especially when i first started watching his content.
@@julien2231 He's truly reactive not acting. He went to a Slipknot show
@@chriskimmel7252 i am not saying he is fake. I belive he is genuine but i also wonder if he exagerate sometimes.
I love his SABATON reactions from his channel.
@Joe Smith who are you that anyone should care??
I was introduced to reaction videos from watching Alex. Watching him felt like those times showing my nonmetal friends metal music in the car, and their reactions were so much fun. His opinions about the music and lyrics, talking about what he felt from the song, understanding the emotions by it, showing appreciation and respect for it even though he wasn't a fan of the music (at the time) made me a fan of him. I respect outside observers that can show love for something they don't understand, were told was evil when they were growing up, but can see that it is not whatsoever
It's been great watching his evolution from hip hop to Metal. My favorite has to be watching him react to Down with the Sickness and watching the faces he makes 😂
just wanted to say thank you for this...wouldn't mind a part two of it😊. I started to really enjoy these kind of interviews, not just from your channel.
Brings a whole new dimension to reactions. Transforms it to something greater than the sum of its parts.
Keep up the good work. And greetings to your family. 🙋♂️
I didn’t catch this myself until someone else pointed it out, but this is why it’s so important to distinguish between what the interviewee is actually saying and what blanks are being filled by the reporter. The reporter said “labels,” while David only said “they all.” As he clarified in his conversation with Alan, the “they all” referred to some no-name indie labels, talent agencies, and management companies, not any major record labels. Sure, you could say David should have preemptively clarified this when he first shared the video, but honestly I can see how he might not have foreseen they way this would blow up.
And it occurred to me that maybe the reason David got these requests when bigger channels didn’t is because of the fact that he frequently reacts to songs with audio only, whereas most reactions focus on videos, and the groups these agencies are pushing don’t have any high quality videos.
"Hello i'm a filmstudent and Now i will react to all the movies everybody has seen for the First time"
"Hello i now listen tk all the Songs everybody has heard a Million times for the First Time"
I dont believe any of them :D
Thanks for this convo guys. You both rock!
Im just starting out, and learning about copyrights and so on! Tank and Alex are great, and thank you🤘
I'm really happy to see you both here talk about reaction and your experience with this... Big appreciation for you guys ❤️❤️❤️👌👌👌
I used to actively follow a lot of reactors, including tank, the charismatic voice, david heretic and many many others, now a keep subscription to most of then but only actively follow julia nilon and david heretic, and 2 o 3 others. They are the only two reactors that not once have i ever felt that any criticism they made is unfounded, evidently biased or just bs.
Thanks a lot for this great video. 2 of my favorite reactors together: amazing ! and I hope it won't take months before a Back Lounge Podcast with him!
I appreciate the hell out of you 2, and keep rocking! :)
Having seen the media story in question earlier, I will say DH is right on when he says reactions are a modern form of music journalism. They truly are similar to music reviews in magazines, except you actually get to see the reviewer's reaction to the music. All the journalistic ethical caveats apply.
This was such an awesome conversation. As a newbie to the game it was also very informational and eye opening. It is nice to know the problems I encounter is what you guys go through as well!
Every reactor on RUclips has the same issues. Don't let it discourage you!
@@TankTheTech - Hey man, that was a really excellent video, I enjoyed watching it, especially since recently I have been enjoying a lot of movie reaction channels - Alex Hefner being one of my new top favorites (I also enjoy JUST TRUST ASH, White Noise Reacts & Mary Cherry to name a few), and so it was truly interesting to see him being interviewed almost by you, on his thoughts and views, as this was a side of him that was new, I had never seen him other than reacting to movies.
Anyways, if you would like to see a perfect example of a music reactor being genuinely moved by experiencing new music, I literally just watched one just before I saw this video of yours, so I thought perhaps you might appreciate I share it with you, and since posting links often doesn't work in comments, I'll just put the copy/pasted video title here for you to throw into the search - of course, if you have already seen it, then phooey, all this typing for no reason, lol.
TL;DR - Great video, Alex Hefner is great, I found a video you might like - and thank you for quality content :) Video title below ::
" Rapper Reacts to Metallica FOR THE FIRST TIME!! | MASTER OF PUPPETS "
This was so interesting. Such a treat. You’re both such engaging content creators and personalities, and the chemistry here was great. Relaxed and fun. Thanks for this insight!
Nice to see you 2 sharing the screen. It's been a while since I been following you both and enjoy most of the content you create. Keep it up you guys! Cheers from Argentina!!!
Really great to hear you discussing this together, love watching both of you two reacting on your channel.
It was fun seeing this little interview, I often watch Alex, he sometimes gets over excited watching videos, and can be really funny. Big love Tank bud
Promotion-wise,I agree. Look at what Reactors have done to bands like Jinjer or Unleash The Archers. Or Orbit Culture. Or Spiritbox. Or Lorna Shore. Or Lovebites.I mean,I think that the entire reacting community /as well as us-viewers/ has managed to skyrocket popularity of these bands to Mount Everest. And I am sure it has been translating to album sales,to merchandise sales,to ticket sales.
It's because of reactors that I found bands like Nightwish, and Amon Amarth
Who?!? Mt Everest would include people like Frank Sinatra, Elvis, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Garth Brooks, Metallica, Britney Spears, and Taylor Swift. I have no clue who those bands are.
@sonofsarek surely you know they mean within their respective genres.
Great conversation, guys! Love both of your channels, as well as a few other reactors, for all the different reasons!
This was awesome. Seeing you two in the same video is great. I love watching reactions, and this was like watching the next level of that, having 2 worlds blended together. Thank you both for the great content you put out!
Would be interesting to hear David Heretic on this to understand what he meant by those comments exactly. You also have to take into account that we only got to see those snippets of the interview with him that they decided to put in the segment. Maybe he elaborated on what he meant by scripts and so on.
I mean, I kind of eluded to that when we were talking about it. That could have been a 15 minute conversation that we only saw 45 seconds of. But still, in my experience, scrips and payment are not just being handed out by labels.
@@TankTheTech I just saw that Alan from Dicodec has a conversation with David Heretic scheduled for tomorrow. That might be interesting.
@@TankTheTech I'm not here to defend David or anything but he is a musician so that might have something to do with the fact he has that kind of contact with the labels. He knows what he's talking about so they might value his reactions higher than some others because of that, regardless of the amount of subs.
Of course you also know a lot about the music industry so it sounds definitely weird that you were not offered the same.
Well, I believe David can and will defend himself. I just don't think he'd go on a newscast and say something if he didn't have proof to back it up. If he did, well then he'll lose a bunch of subs me included.
When I first started watching reaction videos I subscribed to probably a dozen or more reactors. I started weeding out reactors that didn't help me understand the music better. I wanted technical break downs, analysis, on-point commentary. Tank and David Heretic are two of the reactors that made the cut for me. I trust both of them to give me good, honest, and educational reactions. And absolutely, the personality of the reactor is important.
I believe that David is an ethical and honest reactor and I would take that Fox clip with a grain of salt. I don't believe he is trying to show that he isn't a sellout by not taking money for reactions. I recommend you take a look and some of his reactions. I don't watch his Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers but love his Baby Metal, Lovebites, Band Maid, and Nightwish reactions.
I quite enjoy some of David Heretic reactions. A bit gimmicky but as a bassist he seems to know his music.
I agree. DH's delivery is not the smoothest but he does know a lot about music and he often notices things that other reactors miss. He sure doesn't seem like he's only interested in likes so I would be surprised if he was lying about money.
Good conversation guys. Thanks for sharing it.
Bro the comment about watching these videos to find new music is exactly why I clicked on your channel for the first time. The first video I ever saw of yours was the Pisces reaction a few years ago. I had never once heard of Jinjer or any of their songs and after I watched that they were my number one band on Spotify that year. I've been watching you ever since because I find the gear talk really cool bc nobody else does it but I also watch you when you react to something I've never heard before. Such a great way to find new stuff and watching someone who is knowledgeable can also teach you things about the band that could interest you even more. Absolutely love this channel and everything you choose to do with it man 🤙🤙
The Charismatic Voice had an interview with Devin Townsend taken-down because there were clips of his live shows in it! XD
Devin made some calls and it was fine, but it's so frustrating.
Agree with you guys 100%. Y'all are the new music advertisers. Positive or negative reactions it's still advertising.
No such thing as bad publicity.
Thank you for this podcast. Cool collab for sure ;) and hope to see the future continuation.
Great video, thank you both!
I'm late to the party but I have to say great conversation and I totally agree with Alex about why people stick with a specific reactor is totally down to the person presenting their views. As a Nightwish fan pretty much since they started, I found you through that big influx of reactions to Ghost Love Score that all seemed to come out around the same time.
I love seeing people "discover" Nightwish for the first time (irrespective of which lead vocalist is singing) but I stayed (and joined your Discord/Patreon) because of YOUR opinions and insights into what you were listening to.
I've got five or six reactors that I constantly follow and each of those is because of the unique information or insight the reactor is giving me on either a song I already know well or as an introduction to an artist I've never seen before.
I spent 20 years as a journalist and we had a similar relationship with publicists and music labels, we never were paid to do reviews but if we wanted a "free" CD or album or tickets to a gig, it would be on condition of a review then being published and that's the symbiosis of the relationship.
This was great, thanks for sharing.
Alex had been one of my fave Reactors for some time now, and I’m new to your channel but enjoying it, so it’s an interesting crossover for me.
Now I’m waiting for another seemingly random crossover like, I dunno, … Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice and … Smokey & Hollywood6 from Trash Talkers
(now *that* would be interesting)
Thanks for this- what a really excellent video and insightful conversation. Cheers for all you do gents and all power to you for keeping it real for the right reasons.
That was fantastic!!! Thanks for the insights gentlemen 🤘😎🤘
One thing that struck me about the "Fox" interview with the David Heretic guy, was just how easily if you switch the two parts around it gives a very different perspective, for example the way we were shown it from the news segment was pretty much:
"being offered money to review certain bands/songs (but I said no)" followed with "in a way [reaction channels] are the new musical journalism", filling the space that used to be taken with NME, Melody Maker, and other magazines etc, and even the music tv channels.
Now, I'm not saying this is the case, it's just a random, half thought through, embryotic hypothesis, but what if the conversation was phrased more like:
'Reaction channels are basically the modern version of old analogue musical journalism, they fill the niche previously held by magazines etc ... in that context it would likely financially make sense if reactors were incentivised to react and respond to certain bands or songs, at a certain time in a certain way such as being paid or given a script.'
I am not saying this is the case. I am just trying to point out that it really doesn't take much editing and the media like Fox news can pretty much rearrange the order of the conversation and have their guests say whatever they want them to say.
I really appreciated this video a lot. As a child of the 70's anything after 1995 gets a bit sketchy for me so I'm by no means up on everything that's out there after that year. But roughly 2 yrs. ago during the crisis I was watching the video doc "Thrashed" and soon after I was looking at random metal videos and Alex popped up. It was really a breath of fresh air tbh... And for me just the distraction I needed at the time. I have however kept watching. Your channel I got hip to roughly a year ago and I dig the behind the scenes outlook as well as the viewpoint from both a roadie as well as a fan. What you guys do keeps me going personally. I deal with PTSD and for that 10 or 15 mns. your videos run I get that moment of not sitting in my head. Thank you both for that. 👍🤘
Oh and btw in a roundabout way I have seen bands pay for reactions on their videos but its by joining a reactors patreon and requesting a reaction to their song. I've only seen it from smaller bands to smaller reaction channels because those are the ones that can sell guaranteed reactions.
great reaction guys it was fun watching you and alex react to this
SO GREAT!! 🤘😁
😘
Speaking of discovering bands by seeing reactions to them first. A little over a year ago I kept seeing the same suggestions off to the side while watching people react to some of my old favorites (Megadeth, Metallica, RATM, etc.) That band was Jinjer. I now have a new favorite band thanks to reaction channels like you two.
Because of reactors like Tank & Alex, I found my new favorite which is Nightwish, but recently have fallen in love with Ayreon & Within Temptation! Because of reactors I find “new music” that I never would have listened to before & because of reactors I get to once again listen to music from my past that I had forgotten all about! There’s so much out there to enjoy it’s hard to remember all of what you’ve loved in life & if you don’t pigeon-hole yourself in only enjoying one type of music, there’s always something new to find. 😊
Brilliant chat guys!
You have to also thank the subscribers who have so much information who cross pollenate bands, music and news which enables going back to those channels to not only get the latest vid and reaction but know somewhere in all of the 'great reaction reactor' and emoji (my usual i no nothing style) there is a juicy morsel to find.... found alot ... and usually its in one the larger following and channel.
BTW, great reaction (conversation), reactor (Tank) 🔥🔥👍
Thank goodness I don't pay for reactions. It's the one thing that bothers me, that 'reacting' has been exploited into a revenue generating business so now most reactors won't react unless you pay for it. Loses the authenticity of just doing reactions to be exposed to new music genres, etc. Oh well.
I've seen David Heretic hit with emotions while reacting to Ghost Love score, his 1st Nightwish vid, He got watery-eyed.
I think that "all" might have just been a lip-slip, something that just came out without much of a thought or intent behind it. Happens to best of us.
Amazing video, cann't wait for the podcast episode.
Dude reactors are great for finding new stuff. The reason I’m always following you Tank for example, is I can see you as a community hub. You react to stuff that the community may toss your way.
I love reaction videos because usually I learn something about the band/music that I didn’t know before, it’s nice to be able to go from “These are good ear noises” to “These ear noises are good because xyz”
I feel sorry for Alex. To be isolated by his family growing up and kept hermetically sealed from all cultural reference points so that, once released, he could react to all these songs and movies that everyone has seen, must have been something of a burden. It is good to see that he is now catching up - for example, only recently seeing and reacting to, Saving Private Ryan. Great stuff!
Say more? I don't know his story.
I’ve not seen Saving Private Ryan… I’m in my 30s
@@Mannchini Watch Alex's reaction and save yourself 2 hours and 8 minutes.
Watch band of brothers lol better ww2 show /movie
I'm guessing this is where youtube would do well with a "laugh react"
This is fucking AWESOME! So stoked to see this. Beyond awesome Collab. Great points. As a reactor myself, this is gold. Love you guys!
Woaaaa..... those 40 minutes went fast !!! That was an awesome interview/meeting !!!
Great talk, great episode. I like reactions about music that hit me when I first discovered it. Seeing Charismatic Voice first reactions to SOAD for example is just a treat, besides the great information you get about singing. I know how I felt when I first heared Serj's voice over 20 years ago and it's just great to see that people get similar or same reactions. And there are so many examples for that. Or when "young" people discover "older" music and get the feels. I also like to discover new music but I have to be honest, I usually watch people reacting to stuff I already know.
Thanks to you both I would have probably never heard sabaton which is now my favorite band hands down thanks to both of you and the gift that is electric callboy! That never gets old! Keep doing what you doing, love it and stay genuine!
Thanks! You answered some questions that I have had about how this process works! I' m fairly new to reactions & I'm really enjoying it! Thanks again!😎✌😎
2 of my favourite RUclipsrs! Appreciate you both and your inputs, Alex is the reason I started a RUclips channel and whilst I'm fairly new to your channel Tank, your insight and no bullshit approach is so refreshing ❤🔥
I enjoy music reaction channels, but I find it really annoying that they pretend to like everything. It would be refreshing to hear someone just be honest and say if they didn't like a song, or don't like a certain genre. There are times that you can tell that they don't like a song and they just can't wait for it to end, but when it does they're like "wow, that was great, I loved it!".
If Brad of Brad & Lex doesn't like a song, he'll not only tell you about it but will refuse to even put the title of the song in the title of the video. 🤣 I have to respect that he's sacrificing views out of his dislike of the music.
@@mage1439 I do like Brad & Lex
True on Brad of Brad and lex and also Jordon from Rob Squad reactions will tell you that’s not for me if he don’t like it
@@xdraygul5169 Wrong
@@xdraygul5169 "Duuhh I can tell you don't watch any black reaction videos Duuhh". Dude STFU, I pretty much only watch black people reacting to metal music. It's so obvious that most reactors (not all) but most will pretend to like something even if they really don't because they know that's how the game is played. They know they're gonna get more views and subscribers than if they were honest.
To me, especially watching someone react to Metal or a specific band or style for the first time is so great, because it reminds me of the feeling I had, when I made that discovery. That excitement, the blown mind, I'm always a bit jealous because I can't make that discovery again. ^^
Cool video guys. I really enjoyed the discussion.
Very insightful video, guys! Thanks 👏
I think the best Reactors are 1) The Wyldeside with Eric Clark, 2) David Heretic, 3) The Voice Love Co. BUT it is my opinion only, I also follow like over 160 Reactors more or less depending on what music they react on. Tank and Alex are on that list also, so hats off to all the Reactors for their work and devotion to Music!
Yup, Christi is priceless.
Love Eric 💕
@@ToTheWolves I concur! Cheers from Amsterdam!
hey tank just tank just wanna say this, ive been watching david heretics channel since he was at around 1k subs, and he really is one of the most honest, and nice people on this platform that does reactions, im sure there were some bands that have asked him to say certain things about them and they would pay him, if he hates a song, he will tell you why, whether it takes 20 minutes or an hour lmao, if he loves it, he'll do the same thing, and holy crap does this man know his stuff, i dunno, i just wanted to put that out there, he really is a genuine guy and reactor, and reviewer
He may be. I don’t know the guy. I agree with a lot of what he said, but generalizing that all labels are sending out scripts and incentivizing reactors to say positive things are just bonkers, and doesn’t happen.
@@TankTheTech yea i found that hard to believe as well, but everything else he said was pretty truthful, he recently was about to do his first sponsorship deal, forgot what it was for, but the company lied to him after he already made the vid, so he backed out and told everyone
GTHIC Jewelry. And in my opinion, that's a miscommunication, not an outright lie, because literally the same thing happened to me and it wasn't that big of a deal. They apologized, I cleared it up with my viewers, and nobody took it that bad. I mean, if you go to check out and see the code didn't work on something that wasn't covered, don't buy it. It's that simple.
When did he say all labels? He said some has approached him, a bit like when promoter approached you. He most definitely didn't mean ALL labels, when all these labels. Also it doesn't look good when Alex thinks he's the shit when he has less then million subscribers. One of the biggest reactors is Nigel Ng aka Uncle Roger and not to forget NoLifeShaq. I find lately a trend of shitting on other channels, when there's a hug turd on your own doorstep.
@@Drescher1984 I agree 💯
I check out your reactions for the react of music I really like, and then in some regards listen to new music with "strangers" to get onboard with new music in a whole new way. I really enjoy to see others reaction to music, hense "reaction". Very much like your content, and Alex Hefner's content. Keep up the good work, guys!
LOL! Oh... the murky but happy world of reactions. Love both of you guys! Is there a reactor space where we can all hang out somewhere? What a great conversation…. And I learned a whole load of stuff here!!! I’m doing it all wrong 🤔
100% why I watch reaction videos, I watch Roadie Reacts to watch a fellow metalhead get excited about new tracks, I watch Alex's channel for his reaction to metal, I also watch others like drum teachers, vocal coach's and producers to enjoy their journey into metal. It's helped me find lots of new bands and listen to tracks I haven't listened to in years.
Keep up the awesome reactions both of you
I watch about half a dozen reaction channels on the regular, including both of you two and I love watching them. I have found so many bands because of these channels... including but not limited to Orbit Culture, Parkway Drive, Powerwolf, Slaughter to Prevail, Malevolence and Lorna Shore! And if plans go right I'll be seeing all but StP this year at either Bloodstock or on their own tours.
Frekn awesome! I’ve been following Alex since jump street and I have also been following you pretty heavily but more recent.. 2 of my favorite channels coming together like this was probably one of the best vids and ideas ever!!! Mad love!!!!
I feel like first time you listen to a song and you LOVE it, you experience a peak dopamine high. You can listen to that song another 1000 times and still love it, but youll never recreate that first time listen. So when you see someone else react to that song for the first time, and they also love it, thats the closest you can get to your first time high again. You can almost relive it (second hand high) through your fav reactor/s. Which to me explains why more well known groups get more views, its just people chasing a high.
Yous guys are both awesome btw great video!
I like watching reactions cause there is this feeling of sharing. And the joy of when someone gets into the thing you are into. It's like the sharing cool new single you just found with a friend.
my friends musical taste sucks! hence i can only "share" with reactors.
@@julien2231 I personally suffer from saturation. My group has such a similar taste that in most cases if I found something new, there is like 90% chance that everyone knows it already. So reactors discovering "my bands" are like a second wind.
@@blackbird42 well, youre lucky to have that "problem" lol
@@julien2231 well yes and no. True that we can listen the good stuff as a group, but I still have no joy in sharing discoveries, cause everyone already know that.
@@blackbird42 true, but at least they enjoy the same stuff. I get called an heretic just because i have refined taste.
As someone who likes watching reactions of my favourite bands (sometimes multiple times)… for me, it’s about a feeling of community. “Hey, they like so-and-so as much as I do!” Very few people I know listen to the same music I do. And my favourite reactors offer something other than just mutual appreciation. Tank, Elizabeth, Chase, Julia, and Harry from Songs and Thongs have specialized insight. Alex, Oldskulnerd, RichoPov, Mr. Rock and Roll, and several others have entertainment value. And I have to admit, I watched as many vocal coaches as I could find lose their minds over Jinjer’s Pisces. It was like watching the largest ever Punk’d episode. And I have even found new music because I respect the opinion of certain reactors. Thank you for Orbit Culture Tank!
Man, you guys brought way more insight into this topic than I expected! I have to say, I agree 100% with you on creators who post too much. It makes the subscription feed too saturated like you said
Great discussion!!!
Also, yinz two worked your cameras so professionally!
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Great interview, Tank! Well, when Alex told about the Iron Maden's YT account comment on his video, I constantly became happy because same thing happen to me once, when I made a reaction to one of my favourite portugise Dark Electro bands called Eden Synthetic Corps and their song called The Northern Hunter from 2015th album Sandwalkers. When they comment and acknowledged my reaction I became so damn happy that it was felt like I may loose my mind at any second)) It means a lot to me, because ESC and their 2015th album Sandwalkers is one of the bands and albums that turn me into electronic musician and became HUGE influence for me back than in 2020 when I started making electronic music)). But anyway, keep up the great work! Greetings from a huge fan of your channel from Murmansk Russian Federation!))
That’s awesome, man!
@@TankTheTech Thanks man!)
Some years back I worked in gaming, specifically promotion, and paying to do scripted gameplay videos and streams absolutely was a thing. Exactly bullet point lists and example sentences (which would look great when "quoted" in marketing). I never used such services, but I learned pretty quick which networks and channels would only cover our games for money. A clear difference to the ones that are actually interested in games and covering stuff for their audience. I would be astounded if exactly the same wasn't going on in music promotion.
The gaming industry doesn’t surprise me, and I think that’s pretty well known. But music? The profit is so much lower that no label I’ve talked to has said they’d even consider putting that into their marketing budget. In my experience, I’ve never had a record label offer me direct payment for a reaction. They usually only offer for the video to be whitelisted so we can monetize from ads. And that right there makes me also think why would a label ever pay their money when they could just whitelist a video and the person gets paid from AdSense.
@@TankTheTech you guys are smug lil idiots...I know for a fact that reacting is just a buisness that has many fake and oily characters in it like YOU and Hefner🤢😡💩🖕🖕 it all about the globalist and foriegn sponsors🤢💩🖕🖕 I know a reactor s that have had their channels taken down because they didnt bash Trump or because they didnt bend over for the globalist sponsors like you and Hefner do
Hey Tank...I came in late so I'm rewatching it now... I was lmao when they showed you headbanging.. I enjoy watching the Premier
Amazing video, so many great points made. Love both of your channels and look forward to the podcast! This could be the beginning of positive change a few different ways
Breaking preconceptions (presumptions) is one of the most entertaining reactions: the stronger the assumptions the more entertaining the reaction when those assumptions are broken. And some genres gain stronger prejudgemental attitudes for sure..
Analytical videos are at their best when they point out things you didn't know yourself even if the video or the song is familiar: when you can appreciate the music more after watching an analysis that is a well done video.
And then there's reviews where you want a "second opinion": these are most like traditional music journalism where the music is graded and evaluated by different factors. Reviews when done well have a breakdown of the whole (composition, instrumentation, performance..) by different aspects.
So the reactions can cater to different audiences and piling them all together is a problem. The personality of the channel matters, but so does the content: sometimes it is really interesting to see analysis of something you have no idea about, but other times you just want the entertainment or validation of opinions. When a channel can combine all three in interesting, entertaining and in-depth that is a channel that will get you certainly coming back for both things you have seen and things you haven't seen before, and that is a really really rare thing.
Personally, i think reactors have the potential to expose a band to a new audience and that exposure will lead to new fans. That brings value, and in the age of analytics, that line of thinking can be proven or disproven by the data. Also, because a reactor may create value to a company, that doesn't necessarily mean the company will or should compensate the reactor.
when they are dishonest for money, they might as well admit they are corporate shills.
Thanks to Tank the tech, I've discovered Orbit Culture. Hadn't heard much about them before. Now they are one of my favorite bands!
you should check DarkViperAU videos on react content. He has several of those throughout his youtube career. But recent ones are... Mwah... Cheff kiss.
Although these two react to musical videos. Which are different and can, in fact, serve as advertisment for the musical groups. So many problems of reactor do not apply to them. Even if they do, in fact, hurt the youtube profit of musical bands they react to - they may profit them in people, who goes out and buys their songs on.. spotify? I dunno how it works, dont use musical services
Do you use 4 space tabs after periods? AMAZIN'.
Great conversation, thought provoking. I'm going to watch it again ;)
Just found you today and thank you for introducing me to Alex.
David Herretic is one of the best reactors in my opinion because he is not only reacting, but is commenting the musical perspective of each song I watched him react to. He is a bass player. He may not have the visuals you both have with Alex but his reviews are always honest and he is not overexcited when he hears something good. I respect him for doing natural and professional reactions with each video. So you should take off the visuals aside and give him credits about what he is doing because he deserves that. And you couldn't know if the story with the offered money is true or false when you are only taking just your experience into consideration. Probably so as him not being right speaking from the name of all in front of the media but I don't think that was something intentional.
Was looking for this kind of comment, also david said he would be down to talk with tank in an interview, i think tank should take up the offer.
I like David Heretic, too. He's not my go to reactor, but I have enjoyed his reactions on his channel.
David also stated ina recent video that he reached out to Tank with no response :( Might be a good idea to start a conversation!
Except he did get a response, because we've talked back and forth a few times.
@@TankTheTech And that does "kind of" reflect my personal feeling about Mr. Herretic... He always felt "fishy" to me. I might do him wrong and I hope I do, but my feeling stays. When I started watching his videos, he always said: "It is not for the money", but then explained his Patreon thing with silver, gold and platinum memberships and how with a certain tier you can choose one or more videos each month... and so on. He is however very knowledgeable in music stuff. Did I spell that right?
Those reactions do work. I've discovered bands like Jinjer, Lovebites and Band-Maid because of reaction videos and the went and boight their complete discography on CD.
Great Interview to watch, once against doing marvelous work tank. Love see other reaction creators that i may watch.
This was cool to watch you both. I watch all of those reactors.
I need a full fledged series with these 2 jabronis. Alex is one of my original OG reaction influences, and Tank who has DEFENINTELY been at the time of the reaction game for a while. keep it up guys
I’d like to thank both of you, the charismatic voice, and several other reactors. Without y’all, I would never heave found:
Lorna Shore
Electric Callboy
Sabaton
Jonathan Young
Jinjer
Slaughter to prevail
Whitechapel
Voiceplay
Ayreon
Epica
Large portions of things Nightwish did
Nanowar of steel
Dimash
Voiceplay
Eluveitie
Alestorm
And many others. Y’all are the best, and thank you so much!
Music reactions is my favorite genre - and you can easily tell when the reaction is genuine. You can tell when a person has NO IDEA hook is coming or where the arrangement is going until they get hit over the head with it. I'd be lying if I said my eyes stay dry toward the end of most of these. It's highly emotional for me (personally)
Tank and Alex 2 of my most fav vid reactors!!! Good to see you 2 guys collab!!!
No joke, i've found my love for metalcore and specific bands through you. My friend showed me hypa hypa and I didnt know how to react because i didnt listen to anything heavy back then. Then i was like, i wonder how people react to this song and found your channel.
Now i've got spirit box, ice nine kills, unleash the archers, orbit culture and probably more that i forget. Those are my top bands and ive discovered all of them through your channel. I bought merch for UTA and I want to buy more for other bands but I gotta save money for now.... Anyone hating on reaction channels just seeks attention because they never got any
honestly, i dont really care about whether someone is genuine in their reaction because a lot of the time i watch it more for the knowledge they bring to discussing the song. whether its a music teacher breaking down how melodies are constructed in a piece or a director looking at how the stage is set up and the choices made in the performance part of a song. everyone I enjoy watching brings their own unique take to the music which im always happy to hear
You're a good sheeple🤢💩🖕🖕...and you are adding to the bank account of foriegn, globalist products that they sponsor
Definitely learned alot and thoroughly enjoyed it. I need more chatter between you both!
Nice insight. I enjoyed this a lot.
Due to Mr Rock n Roll i was introduced to Nightwish (Ghost Love Score) back in 2019 and down the rabbit hole, I went. I believe Floor is the greatest female vocalist I've ever heard. I have downloaded most of their albums/songs from apple. That singular reaction has led me to Alex, Tank, the Charismatic Voice, and many others which have led me to sooooooo many different bands that aren't mainstream in the U.S. For instance Sabaton, Amaranthe, Unleash the Archers, and Aryeon. Reactors have a major place in the industry just don't sell out ( hate just for views or pretend like for the same). That being said there are reactors that review songs that I know very well and if they are legitament (you can tell if its fake) I enjoy the sheer action/enjoyment of new music.
I loved this conversation. It was a bit funny because I'm a subscriber to both you and Alex, and the David the Heretic, and I appreciate all three channels for what they offer. I have to agree that as a viewer what attracts me most is the host of the reaction channel, his eloquency and authenticity, even if it can give some overreacting attitudes! I really value it when his words, enthusiasm, reaction puts a smile on my face. In a way you become part of our lives, a pen-pal with whom we have this "weird" type of connection. And yes, it's true, I've silently cursed when you stop the music video to comment - because right at that moment we are two "friends" sharing/enjoying and headbaning at the same song, as if we were in a club, or a concert! - but after all, the video is about your reaction! So yeah, keep on sharing we us!
tank was one of the first reactors i got started on, and we actually had a short back and forth over a band i liked and he didnt. but he was honest enough to get back to me and say he didnt care for them.i havent heard of alex hefner, but i kinda watch certain videos because im new to this, like 2 years and 2 bands are currently keeping my attention. ive learned that not everyone is gonna like what ido, and i live with it tanks knowledge of gear drew my attention as well. very good and honest commentary on the subject. thanks guys keep up the good work
Literally my two favorite reactors Thanks guys