Disclaimer: I had to find small things to hate since there truly is barely anything to dislike about the BMW M4! If I couldn’t find anything to hate, this video would be pointless. Enjoy!
One note to you on that disconnect Bluetooth thing. If next time you find out ur music won’t play don’t just disconnect it try to put ur car music input to the AUX and then click back and choose it back to Bluetooth connection. And you should hear the music no problem. It’s much faster than do the disconnect phone thing
Nice ride! You can still drive off with the cold start, just don’t drive like a hoon ‘til the engine is up to it’s normal operating temperature…and your neighbors will love you for it.
I rented out an M4 off of Turo using my Mom’s info for my 21st birthday about 3 years ago. And again a year later as a rental for a trip to San Francisco. I fell in love with the car instantly and I promised myself I would own a 2018-2020 model in the future
I’m ordering a brand new 2022 next month …. Black with red leather, red calipers and every carbon option. Make your dreams a reality. Life is what happens when most people are making grand plans.
I bought one about a year ago and Turo can be your best friend. If you buy one then rent it out a few days of the month, it will help cover the payments. Depending on your area they can rent for $200-$400 a day. Best of luck!
@@ryanjofre you mean try and justify your delusions as reality. Unless you’re a multimillionaire…you’re an idiot if you buy a new car costing over $80K. If you did…hope you’re enjoying those car and insurance payments 😂
@@johnsimoney2035 - I went for a 2021 M5 competition! Even with 740 credit and 30k down the payments where horrible! My credit union offered me an excellent rate but only with 60k down and 36 month. I can pay cash but.....lol. Sorry if your not in my League dude. I probably make more $$$ in my sleep than you with your 9-5.
@@chrisvig123 ong it’s like going to Gucci or whatever designer place they will charge you way more because of their reputation etc. that’s why I go to certified mechanics that know how to work on bmws but are not a bmw dealership. It will cut your costs for everything most of the time half of the price of bmw dealerships
The poor turning radius is common in vehicles with wide front tires. The unpredictable torque can actually be fixed and made better with an updated sw flash from the dealer. I had a family member with a 2015 and it improved significantly after.
The thing I hated most about my 2015 M4 was the exhaust rattle on startup with the stock exhaust. It drove me nuts because it sounded cheap, and it was honestly such a relief when I met other M3/M4 owners who heard it and went "yours does that too?!"
If there anything like my e90 335. It has a valve in the stock exhaust that rattles on cold start and I had to simply unplug it, now it sounds awesome no more rattle!
@@pauljasondimasaca2462I don't know how the E9X M3 could possibly handle better (unless you're talking about steering feel?), but you're on the money about it sounding better! That's FOR DANG SURE!
1. The torque curve has never been an issue unless you're driving way too aggressively on the street 2. The dct paddles on the wheel aren't an issue... You shouldn't be shifting mid turn anyway
Literally everyone knows the stock S55 torque curve is too agressive and the car is very snappy. And you can actually feel it even on normal daily driving commute
I bought a late 2018 M3 Comp and I was getting buyers regret, but then I drove it around the neighborhood and just couldn't process why I'd ever sell it after growing up with a poster of a e36 m3 on my wall. People who have never ridden in one or driven a M3 will have many excuses as to why its a bad purchase or just doesn't make sense but once you get the chance to be in it or to drive it hard and feel what its about.... its really really difficult to justify it as a bad purchase.
Just bought a 2018 M3 comp (waiting for it to be delivered), having buyers regret as well, but I keep telling myself that once I drive it the cost will be immediately justified. Your comment validated that for me. Thanks!!! 😎
I can tell you this, I HONESTLY REGRET selling my F80 Comp 2018 for a G80. The F80 has Much MORE SOUL and the G80 Comp is tooo boring af. I still miss my f80 but can never find a pure OEM used with low miles. So dont ever sell it bro its an instant classic now. S55 Engine is the new 2JZ : )
That’s the best engine BMW makes !! My buddy worked at the dealership and said they hardly came back for repair !! Also m4 is best balance of handling and power !!
The reason they don't come back is because guys who buy M cars don't take them to the dealership to get them worked on they take them to performance shops like Eurofed or 412 Motorsports & Solo Motorsports as dealerships just cant be trusted with precious M vehicles people who work at performance shops share a passion and love for cars and you can usually be right next to your car when it's getting worked on so there's that
I never had to reconnect my phone after I got my car a year ago. I think its a problem with your phone or idrive version so I wouldn’t tell others they will have issues with that
I have a '15 M4. I've never had an issue with my phone disconnecting after a week. And you're driving in sport plus around town, put it in comfort mode and it's not really an issue. If anything, the biggest issue with the car is the crank hub.
Very good video! As a fellow F82 owner, I agree with most of your comments, especially the seat logos and the unpredictable torque. Replacing the logos with the newer black ones is well worth the ~ $300 investment, in my opinion. I have just gotten used to the cold start loudness but I agree it’s pretty annoying (especially in my 1-car garage). I took my traction control off twice but I’ve been “scared straight” after a pretty good “snap” under moderate acceleration. Not worth pushing this very powerful car to hard...can be very expensive ;) All in all, I absolutely love my car and I hope that you get as much joy out of yours! Cheers! 🍻
I would definitely recommend finding an open parking lot and getting to know your traction limits better, itll make you feel much safer pushing your limits later.
Will agree with you on the turning radius - it's terrible! For traction, you must go with at least Pilot Sport 4 S or Cup 2 tires - Super Sports don't cut it. I drive with all traction control completely off and do not have traction issues, tho my car is a manual. Very first mod I did to the car was cold start delete via MHD tune. Thanks - good video, man!
Super sports are stickier than 4S...hence being a “summer only tire” while 4S is all season. Cup 2 is by far the stickiest tire, basically a circuit racing tire
@@isogamer12 Both are labeled 'max performance summer' tires and have the same 300 treadwear rating. Granted, the set of Super Sports I had was at less than 50% - they came with a set of used 666 wheels I bought - so maybe not a fair comp. I'm super happy with the S4's - except for the price 🙂
If you have downpipe’s just go in and delete the cold start with boot mod it’s easy or BimmerCode. You can turn off the cold start from your phone. That’s just to warm up the catalytic converters sounds like you have downpipe so yeah you don’t need that cold start at all.
@@roach902 yup. Auto on the DCTs is next to useless. It’s like trying to muzzle on a Rottweiler. It was actually quite good on the regular ZF8 autos though! But it’s actually almost dangerous on the dct 🤣 …slowing down at a junction then realising you didn’t need so you go back on the power and the ‘box is like, ..”urrrrrrm… right, one sec…urm..that one, nope, that one,” 😂
Interesting. I rented a BMW M4 this past weekend in LA. I was taken aback as to the time it took to warm up. Thought something was wrong with the car at first.
ONE THING TO BE ADDED AND UNDERSTOOD, THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LOW RADIUS TURN IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUILD TO TURN, THIS CAR DRIFTS, SO YOU TURN THE CAR BUILDING REVS AND DRIFTING SAME AS U DID WHEN U TURN LEFT EXPLAINING THE HIGH ENGINE TORQUE. LIKE THAT AWE EXHAUST
I bought a used BMW 128i with 97,000 miles with an extended warranty. Within the first month a rod bearing failed and destroyed the engine, so it needed to be replaced. Two months later the valve body became severely worn causing a shutter at speeds of 45-65mph. Thus, my transmission had to be replaced. My local mechanics could have started charging me seasonal storage fees, as my car spent more time in the shop than it did in my garage. However, all is now at bay and my car drives like the dream it was meant to be from the start. While my case is quite extreme, my advice to anyone buying a used BMW is this: understand the previous owner(s) might have seriously abused the car you’re about the buy.
What are you talking about cold start? You do not need to wait for revs to settle, you can, AND SHOULD go and drive right away because lubrication of the engine is much better when you drive compared to idle standstill. Keep the revs low until it reaches optimal temperature, but go drive straight away.
I'm not surprised you are finding it a tad difficult to handle the torque delivery, if you're giving it 3,500 to 4,000 revs steering into a left hand corner/junction 06:37, - just an observation, sir. Also getting confused with your upshift and downshift, when the steering wheel is in a different orientation - is poor driving technique, sorry. 🤔 And may be advisable to keep Traction Control 'switched on', when driving around town.
number seven can be fixed with better tires preferable ps4s or cup2 and/or boost reduction on first and second gear, can be done by bootmode but with better tires you won't need the boost reduction. I pull off first or second foot to the floor no traction lost. Im guessing you got the super sports on, first thing I changed when I bought mine.
@@cudva12 I didn't need to I switched to the ps4s’s combined with Thor for the Euro MDM and Diff. if you want to do boost reduction on the first two gears just do 20-30% on first gear and 20% on second. btw my pulls from first and second on euro mdm once the tires are warmed up do not lose traction. I don't see the need for the cup2s, my buddys CS is on them and they feel just as good as the ps4s’s
@@cudva12 im on the comp wheels which is a bit wider but shouldn't make that big of a difference from the 19s. Thor is now able to flash the CS EDC, better rebounding feels more planted, even better for acceleration. Euro MDM is miles better than the US version they gave us
@@TheRealE39M5 it’s crazy you mention that because I have been looking at the diff flash and euro mdm for a week now and there isn’t much info on the diff flash. Is it that much of a difference?
My friend just bought a used one of these. Its stock. He said he was gonna get a downpipe. I had a turbo german car bitd and advised him not to modify it if he wanted to keep that low torque curve. When i upgraded just my intake on my turbo the torque band was ruined then had to get many things to get back to acceptable. German turbo cars are finely tuned and once you mess with them they almost always run worse. Ive found turbo cars are way funner with the big torque starting low on the rpm. Otherwise you have to rev up all high and it just looses grip.
Some of your complains don't make a lot of sense to me. The paddle shifters are good the way they are, if you drive with your hands on them they are always available when u turn, for parking manoeuvres use the shifter, this way you won't get mixed up. Turning radius like many said before just use that torque. The cold start with mine is ok, I have the stock configuration. Love this car, mine is a F80.
so you did a whole video about 5 minor things: the long cold start (is 2 minutes even long? anybody with a sports car never pulls straight out of the driveway, i always let mine drop to 600 rpms before I pull out unless I'm in a rush) the windows squealing which you said is easily fixed with some product (any high end car owner takes care of their vehicle regularly) a bad turn radius, when many cars have much worse and you can easily get used to, and then torque curve, also known as turbo lag, which pushes power to the wheels at different times on any car with a turbo depending on the air flow and the gear you're in, (at least any car under $300k+)? I have a 435i which is the little brother, and even I lose traction on the turbo lag sometimes where my wheels will spin when the gears change, (you can also turn traction control on at all times) and then lastly you can easily fix the bluetooth issue by a. plugging in your phone, or having a mechanic reset the software. like you sat there and said how awesome it was, and even showed a random dude coming up saying how hard it is. Just seems like you're reaching. You even said how nice everything is made and how much you love it. Come on brother. This shit is hard
@@JusZard He was saying he doesn't like steering wheel mounted paddles for when he's turning. Shifting with the console shifter is easier than having to keep track of where the paddles are on the steering wheel when making 90 degree or more turns.
Had mine for 2 years! got rid of it, stage 2 was fun, and manual trans - Car was putting good power but was never able to put it down, of course in rain it sucked, there was no first and second gear, it as the car would not hook! yeah I could go with better tires like R888R - but they would suck in rain! I don't keep my car's in the garage, I drive them! including winter time! I wanted a straight line car. I found a really good deal on a GT-R that was local! so I bought it!, pretty happy about it. Each time I get an Audi or BMW I don't keep it for too long! :-/ I'm awd turbo guy for sure! oh yeah the car threw drivetrain code ones but it went away! car had 50k miles when I got rid of it.
True. I had the manual as well for almost 5 years. Even with the best tires and all traction controls off it was hard, basically impossible to put down all the power.
@@StreetDrivenDaily you are right but I feel like they made it too heavy and big for what historically the m3 used to be. Every company is doing tho. The m2 cs I thunk it’s closest experience to a classic m3 handling and driving experience
Use silicone spray lubricant around your surrounds that contact the windows. Might need a few tins. Windows should run more easily. Will also act as a rain repellant.
If you have the music/media connected via bluetooth, it will work fine, until you connect it with the iphone cable. Once connected with the iphone cable, you must either disconnect and re-connect the phone, but much easier, you can hit the options button when your phone is highlighted in the bluetooth menu, and just re enable the media directly rather than having to disconnect and reconnect the phone.
Hi, Other defects: Quality of the front windshield, to be changed every year Sound quality Front seats, leg extension not adjustable Heat, make it necessary to tint the windows Ceramic brakes dangerous in heavy rain BMW service void if optimizations performed
Great review. Although this was supposed to be things to dislike I still enjoyed the vid. BTW, I have a M4 pushin 750 hp 710 to the wheel and I was able to correct all those minor things with proper tuning minus the turning radius.
These cars got wide front wheels,doesnt help with turning circle, the torque curve is peaky,its been retuned in the M4 comp, you can just have it tuned eith bmd3...yours sounds awesome tho
The iDrive system works great. If you have to reconnect it every week you should probably check your Head Unit or iPhone. iPhone is struggling with iDrive systems all the time... I don´t know why. You could try to update your iDrive so psz Data, that should help you out a lot
All good points, except the paddle shifter comment. M4 is for racing and tracking; most racers will rather have the paddle-shifters on the steering for easy access while turning while keeping full control of the steering. Conversely, having them on the column will leave you searching for the paddle shifter while turning. Now, on a
I'm a German BMW owner in Germany and 1) the torque isn't unpredictable in this car, it's the complete opposite. Torque will always kick in since it's a supercharged engine but it has a smooth torque curve compared to some other supercharged cars and it will come always at the same rpm so it IS predictable. Don't buy a supercharged car at all if you don't want this behaviour. 2) shift paddles at the steering wheel are way more expensive to engineer and to fabric than static ones. They are made this way for a reason: it's track optimized, so you can still shift if your steering wheel is in 90°degrees. The only thing you mentioned I find annoying as well is the sound of the window. But you can solve that pretty easy.
I lived in South Africa, a country which is very hard on cars. It was rare to see a BMW more than 6 years old. Mercedes and Toyotas were still running strong after 20 years!
When you talk about disconnecting/reconnecting your phone to play music all you have to do is press “radio” then go back to media and bam.. music will play
I appreciate the video, but I wouldn’t find any of these things annoying or hateful as my M car is a weekend car. Warm up I do 2 min for every car I own. Squeaky window I could fix that in 2 min. Turning circle might annoy me a little. M4 badge on seats- put some clear vinyl sticker on them. Blue tooth connection yeah my 5 series does this too, Too much torque - no such thing sorry, but I wouldn’t be smashing the loud pedal as often as you.
I love the cold start! It is long because there is so much involve with the engineering in how it warms up all the oil through out the engine. Moreover, you can technically drive during the cold start mode but you'll notice your rev limited "red line is temp" shorter like 4,000 rpm so you dont damage the engine. If you abuse it- it will leak oil cause the pressure is balance and warmed up yet. (the famous oil leak!) So, yes always let the car warm up.
i am using F10 M5....i never had any issue with Bluetooth connectivity with my iphone ...the only issue that i agree is the paddle shift placement on the steering wheel. Its a pain when i am turning it completely...other then that....long cold start....not an issue even though my car paired with meisterschaft exhaust...i just love to hear the loud rumbling cold start...just to annoy my neighbors :)
Aww I got the F36 GC.. just gonna have it wrapped 3M Satin pearl white, colfibre roof wing mirrors, interior colfibre to go with the red leather.. oh New Mfront and colfibre lip.. its having a reboost on the tuning up to 260 hp think 460 torque. Now then that should save me about 70k? Instead of buying an M4 competition. 😄
If your phone doesnt play music on your idrive system all you gotta do is hold the volume button down for two minutes. Let your idrive refresh. It will fix everything. DO NOT disconnect your phone.
Did you do research prior to the purchased of the car? Inline 6 sounds can't compared with V8 or V10 N/A. I had a 18 F80 and BT connection worked perfect need to update your iDrive software. Only Ferrari and Aston Martin had their shifters mounted on steering column you won't find this feature on German cars.
for me as german a big issue is the tank volume. if often have to move from hamburg to berlin which ist 300km, you have to re fuel it when you go the 296km/h with the competition. the tank is so small, that 160km before berlin the reserve lamp starts to blink. due to that re fueling i'm loosing 10minutes. so if you take a normal car, with half the power you will reach berlin without re-filling and then it takes in average the same time. so an M4 helps me not, to save time even it's a super fast car xD only the M2 competition is more ridiculous with it's 52liters tank :D
Nice review! One thing I usually do in a paddleshift dct car when I'm turning and need to upshift is that I would just use the shifter to upshift and then go back to paddle shifters when my steering is back to center.
I hate the turning radius, I hate the high maintenance costs especially if you take it to the STEALership. I hate the Brake Dust from the Carbon Ceramic Brakes.. I hate having to reach back 2 miles to grab NY seat belt.....this car definitely needs that Seatbelt Butler thingy. I hate the stock exhaust sound, that will be my next mod. Love your channel Bruh
M4CS comes with wider tires. Where as the M4 comes with a really thin tire set up (common complaint from owners) also the M4CS was entirely built around the CUP 2 tires. Power delivery was also refined on the CS due to punchy/explosive torque delivery from the M4/3.
I dont like how the m4s do not have the seatbelt bar that brings the seat belt to you after you close the door, but i understand why cause they wanted to save weight but jeez its a top of the line bmw.. why not the 428 430 435 and 440s have them...
great video but, you could get a nissan micra with no seat badge wear , no window winding noise , amazing turning radius and of course a very quite start up. Yeah thanks for the heads up
What should I expect to pay for a 2017 M4 cab with electronic steering wheel, comp 666 wheels, carplay with 61k miles? .. history shows 4 owners and 2 minor accidents (360 inspection passed)
How many miles when you picked it up? And how many miles now? Any carbon deposit issues? Have you gone to get carbon cleaning and if so, can you feel a difference?
My M5 f10 cold start had 2 levels..idles high for about 15 secs then drops a bit for another minute before valves open on exhaust then normal idle. Thing is when the car is sat for a while after use it does the same but the second drop lasts for a good 2 mins or more before valves open. You can drive off but it's a bit jerky as the revs are pushing you along through gear changes until valves open again. This has got progressively longer as the car has got older...not a major issue just gets a bit tiresome sat there when you just want to get moving. Not sure what causes it but guess it's age/wear on some component?
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Disclaimer: I had to find small things to hate since there truly is barely anything to dislike about the BMW M4! If I couldn’t find anything to hate, this video would be pointless. Enjoy!
One note to you on that disconnect Bluetooth thing. If next time you find out ur music won’t play don’t just disconnect it try to put ur car music input to the AUX and then click back and choose it back to Bluetooth connection. And you should hear the music no problem. It’s much faster than do the disconnect phone thing
Nice ride! You can still drive off with the cold start, just don’t drive like a hoon ‘til the engine is up to it’s normal operating temperature…and your neighbors will love you for it.
What do you say them for is reliable past 80k miles
What year is that
Waste of money wtf is this trash
I rented out an M4 off of Turo using my Mom’s info for my 21st birthday about 3 years ago. And again a year later as a rental for a trip to San Francisco. I fell in love with the car instantly and I promised myself I would own a 2018-2020 model in the future
yeah id avoid the clapped out pre lci models. lci feels so much better driving wise and more refined
I’m ordering a brand new 2022 next month …. Black with red leather, red calipers and every carbon option.
Make your dreams a reality.
Life is what happens when most people are making grand plans.
I bought one about a year ago and Turo can be your best friend. If you buy one then rent it out a few days of the month, it will help cover the payments. Depending on your area they can rent for $200-$400 a day. Best of luck!
@@ryanjofre you mean try and justify your delusions as reality. Unless you’re a multimillionaire…you’re an idiot if you buy a new car costing over $80K. If you did…hope you’re enjoying those car and insurance payments 😂
@@johnsimoney2035 - I went for a 2021 M5 competition! Even with 740 credit and 30k down the payments where horrible! My credit union offered me an excellent rate but only with 60k down and 36 month.
I can pay cash but.....lol.
Sorry if your not in my League dude. I probably make more $$$ in my sleep than you with your 9-5.
For a better turning radius you have to give more throttle.. 😂😂
Yep. Its a bmw... basic stuff
Lmfaoooooo
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So basically small petty things in a nutshell that most ppl wouldn't even consider
Exactly the car is amazing
@@BeemerFam hey at least youre honest about it lol, i love this gen of M4.
Thanks. Saved me 10 minutes of my life watching a video
The big things are the crazy service interval costs if you have a new vehicle and bmw trying to screw you out of every $ that you have 😠
@@chrisvig123 ong it’s like going to Gucci or whatever designer place they will charge you way more because of their reputation etc. that’s why I go to certified mechanics that know how to work on bmws but are not a bmw dealership. It will cut your costs for everything most of the time half of the price of bmw dealerships
The poor turning radius is common in vehicles with wide front tires.
The unpredictable torque can actually be fixed and made better with an updated sw flash from the dealer. I had a family member with a 2015 and it improved significantly after.
The thing I hated most about my 2015 M4 was the exhaust rattle on startup with the stock exhaust. It drove me nuts because it sounded cheap, and it was honestly such a relief when I met other M3/M4 owners who heard it and went "yours does that too?!"
If there anything like my e90 335. It has a valve in the stock exhaust that rattles on cold start and I had to simply unplug it, now it sounds awesome no more rattle!
Ppl kept asking me if my car is a diesel
i like the looks of the m3 and m4 f8x but gotta admit man e92 is much better sound and handling ...
@@pauljasondimasaca2462I don't know how the E9X M3 could possibly handle better (unless you're talking about steering feel?), but you're on the money about it sounding better! That's FOR DANG SURE!
Lmao oh so it’s not just mine lol bro I was scared something was messed up in my m4 😭
Don’t think I’ve ever heard a car enthusiast complain about too long of a cold start 😂 tell the neighbors to quit cryin smh
" me running to the window each time my neighbour starts his car just for this "
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Facts 😂
I would be annoyed if it’s the car I use in the morning ngl
Totally ! Why didn’t he buy a camry 🤷🏻♂️
1. The torque curve has never been an issue unless you're driving way too aggressively on the street
2. The dct paddles on the wheel aren't an issue... You shouldn't be shifting mid turn anyway
Literally everyone knows the stock S55 torque curve is too agressive and the car is very snappy. And you can actually feel it even on normal daily driving commute
@@Scrytheux Never a concern for me... Then again, I'm not mashing the gas to 5k rpm at every corner I see.
lol bmw owners are the biggest whiny little crybabies i've ever met in my life.
Since when too much torque is a problem? Is that really a thing? Please.....
It's an M car primarily designed for track. You want smooth that's the 440i job.
for the paddle shifters, usually when making those turns from a standstill, it's going from 1st to 2nd gear so I just use the shift knob instead
your mum uses that on all her nobs
Driving like a true BMW owner through the city.
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I am doing everything I can to have those problems.
😂😂 good one
I bought a late 2018 M3 Comp and I was getting buyers regret, but then I drove it around the neighborhood and just couldn't process why I'd ever sell it after growing up with a poster of a e36 m3 on my wall. People who have never ridden in one or driven a M3 will have many excuses as to why its a bad purchase or just doesn't make sense but once you get the chance to be in it or to drive it hard and feel what its about.... its really really difficult to justify it as a bad purchase.
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i got f80 too its sick af especially after some carbon mods and stage 2 tune. currently waiting on AA EL midpipe
You buy cars like this with your heart not your head.
Just bought a 2018 M3 comp (waiting for it to be delivered), having buyers regret as well, but I keep telling myself that once I drive it the cost will be immediately justified. Your comment validated that for me. Thanks!!! 😎
I can tell you this, I HONESTLY REGRET selling my F80 Comp 2018 for a G80. The F80 has Much MORE SOUL and the G80 Comp is tooo boring af. I still miss my f80 but can never find a pure OEM used with low miles.
So dont ever sell it bro its an instant classic now. S55 Engine is the new 2JZ : )
Turn the wheel before you move… turning radius improved🤯
I love the effort in blurring out the speedometer, but you left the heads up display LOL
Sick car man. Love it
If I had an M4 I'd be too busy smiling to complain 😁
That’s the best engine BMW makes !! My buddy worked at the dealership and said they hardly came back for repair !! Also m4 is best balance of handling and power !!
M4 is my next car 💯
Crank hub
The reason they don't come back is because guys who buy M cars don't take them to the dealership to get them worked on they take them to performance shops like Eurofed or 412 Motorsports & Solo Motorsports as dealerships just cant be trusted with precious M vehicles people who work at performance shops share a passion and love for cars and you can usually be right next to your car when it's getting worked on so there's that
@@tylercouture216 haha true i wouldn’t take my M to the dealer unless it’s under warranty or I really want to upgrade the performance.
@@Carlos-qu8ue I have certified Bimmer mechanic who works on mine him only
I never had to reconnect my phone after I got my car a year ago. I think its a problem with your phone or idrive version so I wouldn’t tell others they will have issues with that
Same. I have an M2 and never had any issues.
I have a '15 M4. I've never had an issue with my phone disconnecting after a week. And you're driving in sport plus around town, put it in comfort mode and it's not really an issue. If anything, the biggest issue with the car is the crank hub.
The problem with the crank hub is that it’s blown out of proportion. Not a massive issue or likely to happen on stock motors.
I've had my 16 for nearly 3yrs now and never had an issue with my phone either or windows for that matter 🤷🏽♂️
How can you not like a long coldstart. Louder sound, so enjoyable!
Me personally I love my BMW to be as loud as possible so a long cold start is a plus for me.
same
Yup same I love it
Very good video! As a fellow F82 owner, I agree with most of your comments, especially the seat logos and the unpredictable torque. Replacing the logos with the newer black ones is well worth the ~ $300 investment, in my opinion. I have just gotten used to the cold start loudness but I agree it’s pretty annoying (especially in my 1-car garage). I took my traction control off twice but I’ve been “scared straight” after a pretty good “snap” under moderate acceleration. Not worth pushing this very powerful car to hard...can be very expensive ;)
All in all, I absolutely love my car and I hope that you get as much joy out of yours! Cheers! 🍻
I would definitely recommend finding an open parking lot and getting to know your traction limits better, itll make you feel much safer pushing your limits later.
Will agree with you on the turning radius - it's terrible! For traction, you must go with at least Pilot Sport 4 S or Cup 2 tires - Super Sports don't cut it. I drive with all traction control completely off and do not have traction issues, tho my car is a manual. Very first mod I did to the car was cold start delete via MHD tune. Thanks - good video, man!
PotEnza re did pretty well for me too in the summer
Super sports are stickier than 4S...hence being a “summer only tire” while 4S is all season. Cup 2 is by far the stickiest tire, basically a circuit racing tire
@@isogamer12 Both are labeled 'max performance summer' tires and have the same 300 treadwear rating. Granted, the set of Super Sports I had was at less than 50% - they came with a set of used 666 wheels I bought - so maybe not a fair comp. I'm super happy with the S4's - except for the price 🙂
Yeah if you’re catless..otherwise it will not like it
If you have downpipe’s just go in and delete the cold start with boot mod it’s easy or BimmerCode. You can turn off the cold start from your phone. That’s just to warm up the catalytic converters sounds like you have downpipe so yeah you don’t need that cold start at all.
Never heard a car guy complain about a cold start. I look forward to mornings lol
Spray WD-40 in window holes once every 4-6 months and there wont be no squeaky noises
Does it really work???
@@hasan_440i it lubricates the mehanism and that makes the window regulator mehanism and motor work smoother, which helps reduce noise
@@SoonYouLLBe okay thnx bro 🤙 I am gonna do it for my f30 I hate squeaky noises
Isn’t it bad for the seals? It will deteriorate them quicker? A BMW SA got mad when I told them I did that in mine lol.
@@SwoleBravoo WD40 eats rubber apart. Do not listen to these ass hats
Problem Number 2. The issue is the rubber that makes the seal around your windows. you need to re-oil the rubber seals.
Shhhh...leave the idiots to complain about non-issues. I stopped watching after that...
the popping of the exhaust would get too annoying after awhile
I like how the shifters are on the steeringwheel
Rite it’s so when ur turning u don’t have to reach back for the paddle shifter
@@wes2473 yeah
Thats the worst thing about this car. Auto blows
@@roach902 yup. Auto on the DCTs is next to useless. It’s like trying to muzzle on a Rottweiler. It was actually quite good on the regular ZF8 autos though! But it’s actually almost dangerous on the dct 🤣 …slowing down at a junction then realising you didn’t need so you go back on the power and the ‘box is like, ..”urrrrrrm… right, one sec…urm..that one, nope, that one,” 😂
lmao cold start is the best part
The late tale kick is the turbo lag. They can say "no lag" all they want, but I can feel it even on my 328i
Interesting. I rented a BMW M4 this past weekend in LA. I was taken aback as to the time it took to warm up. Thought something was wrong with the car at first.
Man, just be happy you got it 👍, your blessed
Facts!
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ONE THING TO BE ADDED AND UNDERSTOOD, THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LOW RADIUS TURN IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUILD TO TURN, THIS CAR DRIFTS, SO YOU TURN THE CAR BUILDING REVS AND DRIFTING SAME AS U DID WHEN U TURN LEFT EXPLAINING THE HIGH ENGINE TORQUE.
LIKE THAT AWE EXHAUST
I bought a used BMW 128i with 97,000 miles with an extended warranty. Within the first month a rod bearing failed and destroyed the engine, so it needed to be replaced. Two months later the valve body became severely worn causing a shutter at speeds of 45-65mph. Thus, my transmission had to be replaced. My local mechanics could have started charging me seasonal storage fees, as my car spent more time in the shop than it did in my garage. However, all is now at bay and my car drives like the dream it was meant to be from the start. While my case is quite extreme, my advice to anyone buying a used BMW is this: understand the previous owner(s) might have seriously abused the car you’re about the buy.
What are you talking about cold start? You do not need to wait for revs to settle, you can, AND SHOULD go and drive right away because lubrication of the engine is much better when you drive compared to idle standstill. Keep the revs low until it reaches optimal temperature, but go drive straight away.
I'm not surprised you are finding it a tad difficult to handle the torque delivery, if you're giving it 3,500 to 4,000 revs steering into a left hand corner/junction 06:37, - just an observation, sir.
Also getting confused with your upshift and downshift, when the steering wheel is in a different orientation - is poor driving technique, sorry. 🤔
And may be advisable to keep Traction Control 'switched on', when driving around town.
And the unpredictable torque is your turbo spooling up😂
number seven can be fixed with better tires preferable ps4s or cup2 and/or boost reduction on first and second gear, can be done by bootmode but with better tires you won't need the boost reduction. I pull off first or second foot to the floor no traction lost. Im guessing you got the super sports on, first thing I changed when I bought mine.
Thanks man I appreciate it
What % are you running in 1st and 2nd
@@cudva12 I didn't need to I switched to the ps4s’s combined with Thor for the Euro MDM and Diff. if you want to do boost reduction on the first two gears just do 20-30% on first gear and 20% on second. btw my pulls from first and second on euro mdm once the tires are warmed up do not lose traction. I don't see the need for the cup2s, my buddys CS is on them and they feel just as good as the ps4s’s
@@cudva12 im on the comp wheels which is a bit wider but shouldn't make that big of a difference from the 19s. Thor is now able to flash the CS EDC, better rebounding feels more planted, even better for acceleration. Euro MDM is miles better than the US version they gave us
@@TheRealE39M5 it’s crazy you mention that because I have been looking at the diff flash and euro mdm for a week now and there isn’t much info on the diff flash. Is it that much of a difference?
My friend just bought a used one of these. Its stock. He said he was gonna get a downpipe. I had a turbo german car bitd and advised him not to modify it if he wanted to keep that low torque curve. When i upgraded just my intake on my turbo the torque band was ruined then had to get many things to get back to acceptable. German turbo cars are finely tuned and once you mess with them they almost always run worse. Ive found turbo cars are way funner with the big torque starting low on the rpm. Otherwise you have to rev up all high and it just looses grip.
I thought about going with the M4 but ended up going with the 435xi (F33) as my weekender. TBH, I enjoy my 4 Runner more. I enjoy your videos, thanks!
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Blurs speedometer but Heads-Up Display still shows it LMFAOOO
Something hysterical about the fact that the hud still shows the speed when the speedo is blurred out in some shots
Also when he tries to cover the license plate
I like how you blurred the speed dial yet it’s all there on the head up display 🤣
Some of your complains don't make a lot of sense to me. The paddle shifters are good the way they are, if you drive with your hands on them they are always available when u turn, for parking manoeuvres use the shifter, this way you won't get mixed up. Turning radius like many said before just use that torque. The cold start with mine is ok, I have the stock configuration. Love this car, mine is a F80.
so you did a whole video about 5 minor things: the long cold start (is 2 minutes even long? anybody with a sports car never pulls straight out of the driveway, i always let mine drop to 600 rpms before I pull out unless I'm in a rush) the windows squealing which you said is easily fixed with some product (any high end car owner takes care of their vehicle regularly) a bad turn radius, when many cars have much worse and you can easily get used to, and then torque curve, also known as turbo lag, which pushes power to the wheels at different times on any car with a turbo depending on the air flow and the gear you're in, (at least any car under $300k+)? I have a 435i which is the little brother, and even I lose traction on the turbo lag sometimes where my wheels will spin when the gears change, (you can also turn traction control on at all times) and then lastly you can easily fix the bluetooth issue by a. plugging in your phone, or having a mechanic reset the software. like you sat there and said how awesome it was, and even showed a random dude coming up saying how hard it is. Just seems like you're reaching. You even said how nice everything is made and how much you love it. Come on brother. This shit is hard
I use the console shifter rather than paddles when I'm turning
What does have to with turning the car
@@JusZard He was saying he doesn't like steering wheel mounted paddles for when he's turning. Shifting with the console shifter is easier than having to keep track of where the paddles are on the steering wheel when making 90 degree or more turns.
Had mine for 2 years! got rid of it, stage 2 was fun, and manual trans - Car was putting good power but was never able to put it down, of course in rain it sucked, there was no first and second gear, it as the car would not hook! yeah I could go with better tires like R888R - but they would suck in rain! I don't keep my car's in the garage, I drive them! including winter time! I wanted a straight line car. I found a really good deal on a GT-R that was local! so I bought it!, pretty happy about it. Each time I get an Audi or BMW I don't keep it for too long! :-/ I'm awd turbo guy for sure! oh yeah the car threw drivetrain code ones but it went away! car had 50k miles when I got rid of it.
True. I had the manual as well for almost 5 years. Even with the best tires and all traction controls off it was hard, basically impossible to put down all the power.
@@ronaldo19832 i swear f8x could be such an amazing drift car.
@@StreetDrivenDaily you are right but I feel like they made it too heavy and big for what historically the m3 used to be. Every company is doing tho. The m2 cs I thunk it’s closest experience to a classic m3 handling and driving experience
i got this exact car and i’m wrapping it blue next month i love it drives so smooth!!
I love that cold start ❤️
You have an amazing chanel bro, I currently have the 2020 F32 440i coupe, i just installed the sports cat with MST intake on stage 2 tune.
Use silicone spray lubricant around your surrounds that contact the windows. Might need a few tins. Windows should run more easily. Will also act as a rain repellant.
If you have the music/media connected via bluetooth, it will work fine, until you connect it with the iphone cable. Once connected with the iphone cable, you must either disconnect and re-connect the phone, but much easier, you can hit the options button when your phone is highlighted in the bluetooth menu, and just re enable the media directly rather than having to disconnect and reconnect the phone.
Have my 2019 M4 competition for about 7 months. A little over 40,000 miles. Can't find anything I would change. No problems with the car at all.
Hi,
Other defects:
Quality of the front windshield, to be changed every year
Sound quality
Front seats, leg extension not adjustable
Heat, make it necessary to tint the windows
Ceramic brakes dangerous in heavy rain
BMW service void if optimizations performed
Great review. Although this was supposed to be things to dislike I still enjoyed the vid. BTW, I have a M4 pushin 750 hp 710 to the wheel and I was able to correct all those minor things with proper tuning minus the turning radius.
Wow. 700???
These cars got wide front wheels,doesnt help with turning circle, the torque curve is peaky,its been retuned in the M4 comp, you can just have it tuned eith bmd3...yours sounds awesome tho
He did a 3 point turn when he actually had enough clearance to just go on second spin
i threw up while laughing. you should see the parking lot of my local walmart. total gathering of the juggalos
The iDrive system works great. If you have to reconnect it every week you should probably check your Head Unit or iPhone. iPhone is struggling with iDrive systems all the time... I don´t know why. You could try to update your iDrive so psz Data, that should help you out a lot
All good points, except the paddle shifter comment. M4 is for racing and tracking; most racers will rather have the paddle-shifters on the steering for easy access while turning while keeping full control of the steering. Conversely, having them on the column will leave you searching for the paddle shifter while turning. Now, on a
Paddle shift on the wheel is the correct way. Means the car is made for more than a straight line
if you have an issue with the bluetooth audio, ie. no sound coming out, try switching to AUX mode then back to BT on the iDrive
I'm a German BMW owner in Germany and 1) the torque isn't unpredictable in this car, it's the complete opposite. Torque will always kick in since it's a supercharged engine but it has a smooth torque curve compared to some other supercharged cars and it will come always at the same rpm so it IS predictable. Don't buy a supercharged car at all if you don't want this behaviour. 2) shift paddles at the steering wheel are way more expensive to engineer and to fabric than static ones. They are made this way for a reason: it's track optimized, so you can still shift if your steering wheel is in 90°degrees.
The only thing you mentioned I find annoying as well is the sound of the window. But you can solve that pretty easy.
I lived in South Africa, a country which is very hard on cars. It was rare to see a BMW more than 6 years old. Mercedes and Toyotas were still running strong after 20 years!
even newer Mercs?
The Cape Town bras abuse those M’s 🤣
When you talk about disconnecting/reconnecting your phone to play music all you have to do is press “radio” then go back to media and bam.. music will play
I like how you blur speedometer when speeding up but the head up is still there :D
I appreciate the video, but I wouldn’t find any of these things annoying or hateful as my M car is a weekend car. Warm up I do 2 min for every car I own. Squeaky window I could fix that in 2 min. Turning circle might annoy me a little. M4 badge on seats- put some clear vinyl sticker on them. Blue tooth connection yeah my 5 series does this too, Too much torque - no such thing sorry, but I wouldn’t be smashing the loud pedal as often as you.
I love the cold start! It is long because there is so much involve with the engineering in how it warms up all the oil through out the engine. Moreover, you can technically drive during the cold start mode but you'll notice your rev limited "red line is temp" shorter like 4,000 rpm so you dont damage the engine. If you abuse it- it will leak oil cause the pressure is balance and warmed up yet. (the famous oil leak!) So, yes always let the car warm up.
the cold start has nothing to do with the oil temperature but rather to heat up the catalyser.
i am using F10 M5....i never had any issue with Bluetooth connectivity with my iphone ...the only issue that i agree is the paddle shift placement on the steering wheel. Its a pain when i am turning it completely...other then that....long cold start....not an issue even though my car paired with meisterschaft exhaust...i just love to hear the loud rumbling cold start...just to annoy my neighbors :)
Aww I got the F36 GC.. just gonna have it wrapped 3M Satin pearl white, colfibre roof wing mirrors, interior colfibre to go with the red leather.. oh New Mfront and colfibre lip.. its having a reboost on the tuning up to 260 hp think 460 torque.
Now then that should save me about 70k? Instead of buying an M4 competition. 😄
Funny how you blue the speedometer to hide your speed but forget a about the head up display :)
For spirited driving or if I'm doing HPDE days at the track, I primarily use the gear shifter to change gears as opposed to the paddles.
Same here. Especially since it's in the proper sequential configuration where you pull back to shift up.
Cold start noise? Morning coffee I would say….
If your phone doesnt play music on your idrive system all you gotta do is hold the volume button down for two minutes. Let your idrive refresh. It will fix everything. DO NOT disconnect your phone.
Did you do research prior to the purchased of the car? Inline 6 sounds can't compared with V8 or V10 N/A. I had a 18 F80 and BT connection worked perfect need to update your iDrive software. Only Ferrari and Aston Martin had their shifters mounted on steering column you won't find this feature on German cars.
for me as german a big issue is the tank volume. if often have to move from hamburg to berlin which ist 300km, you have to re fuel it when you go the 296km/h with the competition. the tank is so small, that 160km before berlin the reserve lamp starts to blink. due to that re fueling i'm loosing 10minutes. so if you take a normal car, with half the power you will reach berlin without re-filling and then it takes in average the same time. so an M4 helps me not, to save time even it's a super fast car xD only the M2 competition is more ridiculous with it's 52liters tank :D
Nice review! One thing I usually do in a paddleshift dct car when I'm turning and need to upshift is that I would just use the shifter to upshift and then go back to paddle shifters when my steering is back to center.
Yeah same. It's necessary. And not hard to do.
hey btw that radio music thing. all you have to do is click menu then go to radio, then back to mutlimedia and wellha. it happens to mine sometimes
I hate the turning radius, I hate the high maintenance costs especially if you take it to the STEALership.
I hate the Brake Dust from the Carbon Ceramic Brakes..
I hate having to reach back 2 miles to grab NY seat belt.....this car definitely needs that Seatbelt Butler thingy.
I hate the stock exhaust sound, that will be my next mod.
Love your channel Bruh
when the speed is blurred on the dash but not on the heads-up display. Love the video though. Keep up the good videos!!
Awesome car. But I gotta say I never had a Bluetooth issue on my 2016 idrive system
Love how you blurred the speedometer but the speed is on the HUD 😂😂😂🤣
was looking for this comment lmfao
It’s got that power so you can kick out the back end to help with the turning radius 😉
I don’t notice the traction issue with my m4 cs, could be because of the tune or the cup 2 tires 😂 great vid btw
M4CS comes with wider tires. Where as the M4 comes with a really thin tire set up (common complaint from owners) also the M4CS was entirely built around the CUP 2 tires. Power delivery was also refined on the CS due to punchy/explosive torque delivery from the M4/3.
That turning circle as bad as the mic volume🤣🤣... Just messing around. Nice video bud!
so basically the only thing thats actually annoying is pairing and unpairing your phone frequently.
Thinking of either getting this or a c7 Zo6 for my channel haha . Thanks for this vid
People complained for years about paddles being in the stalk and not the wheel itself.
But I can see both sides of the argument.
stalk is the professional choice
I own a '15 435xd and i tought the bad turning radius was because it's xDrive? Turns out it's also bad on the M4.
I dont like how the m4s do not have the seatbelt bar that brings the seat belt to you after you close the door, but i understand why cause they wanted to save weight but jeez its a top of the line bmw.. why not the 428 430 435 and 440s have them...
great video but, you could get a nissan micra with no seat badge wear , no window winding noise , amazing turning radius and of course a very quite start up. Yeah thanks for the heads up
I hate the fact that they don't compromise on sunroofs yet you get a drop top , its annoying
I have the same year/model and everything you said is true 😂. Still love my baby
We love our 2018 M4 with competition package
That raw BMW M sound...Gunshottttttttt 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
My z4 never had any issues with the idrive.
Never to disconnect and reconnect
Thanks for ur video man 👍🏽
What should I expect to pay for a 2017 M4 cab with electronic steering wheel, comp 666 wheels, carplay with 61k miles? .. history shows 4 owners and 2 minor accidents (360 inspection passed)
M seats badges are covered under the warranty and can be replaced with the new black ones for free.
How many miles when you picked it up? And how many miles now? Any carbon deposit issues? Have you gone to get carbon cleaning and if so, can you feel a difference?
Nice channel - Love that M4. I thought Beemer was BMW motorcycle and Bimmer was BMW car...?
My M5 f10 cold start had 2 levels..idles high for about 15 secs then drops a bit for another minute before valves open on exhaust then normal idle. Thing is when the car is sat for a while after use it does the same but the second drop lasts for a good 2 mins or more before valves open. You can drive off but it's a bit jerky as the revs are pushing you along through gear changes until valves open again. This has got progressively longer as the car has got older...not a major issue just gets a bit tiresome sat there when you just want to get moving. Not sure what causes it but guess it's age/wear on some component?