Disclaimer: I had to find small things to hate since there truly is barely anything to dislike about the BMW M4! If I couldn’t find anything to hate, this video would be pointless. Enjoy!
One note to you on that disconnect Bluetooth thing. If next time you find out ur music won’t play don’t just disconnect it try to put ur car music input to the AUX and then click back and choose it back to Bluetooth connection. And you should hear the music no problem. It’s much faster than do the disconnect phone thing
Nice ride! You can still drive off with the cold start, just don’t drive like a hoon ‘til the engine is up to it’s normal operating temperature…and your neighbors will love you for it.
I rented out an M4 off of Turo using my Mom’s info for my 21st birthday about 3 years ago. And again a year later as a rental for a trip to San Francisco. I fell in love with the car instantly and I promised myself I would own a 2018-2020 model in the future
I’m ordering a brand new 2022 next month …. Black with red leather, red calipers and every carbon option. Make your dreams a reality. Life is what happens when most people are making grand plans.
I bought one about a year ago and Turo can be your best friend. If you buy one then rent it out a few days of the month, it will help cover the payments. Depending on your area they can rent for $200-$400 a day. Best of luck!
@@ryanjofre you mean try and justify your delusions as reality. Unless you’re a multimillionaire…you’re an idiot if you buy a new car costing over $80K. If you did…hope you’re enjoying those car and insurance payments 😂
@@johnsimoney2035 - I went for a 2021 M5 competition! Even with 740 credit and 30k down the payments where horrible! My credit union offered me an excellent rate but only with 60k down and 36 month. I can pay cash but.....lol. Sorry if your not in my League dude. I probably make more $$$ in my sleep than you with your 9-5.
@@chrisvig123 ong it’s like going to Gucci or whatever designer place they will charge you way more because of their reputation etc. that’s why I go to certified mechanics that know how to work on bmws but are not a bmw dealership. It will cut your costs for everything most of the time half of the price of bmw dealerships
The thing I hated most about my 2015 M4 was the exhaust rattle on startup with the stock exhaust. It drove me nuts because it sounded cheap, and it was honestly such a relief when I met other M3/M4 owners who heard it and went "yours does that too?!"
If there anything like my e90 335. It has a valve in the stock exhaust that rattles on cold start and I had to simply unplug it, now it sounds awesome no more rattle!
@@pauljasondimasaca2462I don't know how the E9X M3 could possibly handle better (unless you're talking about steering feel?), but you're on the money about it sounding better! That's FOR DANG SURE!
The poor turning radius is common in vehicles with wide front tires. The unpredictable torque can actually be fixed and made better with an updated sw flash from the dealer. I had a family member with a 2015 and it improved significantly after.
1. The torque curve has never been an issue unless you're driving way too aggressively on the street 2. The dct paddles on the wheel aren't an issue... You shouldn't be shifting mid turn anyway
Literally everyone knows the stock S55 torque curve is too agressive and the car is very snappy. And you can actually feel it even on normal daily driving commute
Very good video! As a fellow F82 owner, I agree with most of your comments, especially the seat logos and the unpredictable torque. Replacing the logos with the newer black ones is well worth the ~ $300 investment, in my opinion. I have just gotten used to the cold start loudness but I agree it’s pretty annoying (especially in my 1-car garage). I took my traction control off twice but I’ve been “scared straight” after a pretty good “snap” under moderate acceleration. Not worth pushing this very powerful car to hard...can be very expensive ;) All in all, I absolutely love my car and I hope that you get as much joy out of yours! Cheers! 🍻
I would definitely recommend finding an open parking lot and getting to know your traction limits better, itll make you feel much safer pushing your limits later.
Will agree with you on the turning radius - it's terrible! For traction, you must go with at least Pilot Sport 4 S or Cup 2 tires - Super Sports don't cut it. I drive with all traction control completely off and do not have traction issues, tho my car is a manual. Very first mod I did to the car was cold start delete via MHD tune. Thanks - good video, man!
Super sports are stickier than 4S...hence being a “summer only tire” while 4S is all season. Cup 2 is by far the stickiest tire, basically a circuit racing tire
@@isogamer12 Both are labeled 'max performance summer' tires and have the same 300 treadwear rating. Granted, the set of Super Sports I had was at less than 50% - they came with a set of used 666 wheels I bought - so maybe not a fair comp. I'm super happy with the S4's - except for the price 🙂
Great review. Although this was supposed to be things to dislike I still enjoyed the vid. BTW, I have a M4 pushin 750 hp 710 to the wheel and I was able to correct all those minor things with proper tuning minus the turning radius.
That’s the best engine BMW makes !! My buddy worked at the dealership and said they hardly came back for repair !! Also m4 is best balance of handling and power !!
The reason they don't come back is because guys who buy M cars don't take them to the dealership to get them worked on they take them to performance shops like Eurofed or 412 Motorsports & Solo Motorsports as dealerships just cant be trusted with precious M vehicles people who work at performance shops share a passion and love for cars and you can usually be right next to your car when it's getting worked on so there's that
Your videos are excellent bro! I'm thinking about upgrading my 09' BMW 335xi to a newer (but still used) model 2015-2016 BMW m4. So I'm trying to weight out the pros/cons your vids help a lot.
Interesting. I rented a BMW M4 this past weekend in LA. I was taken aback as to the time it took to warm up. Thought something was wrong with the car at first.
About the turning radius, that's why BMW made it RWD so with a quick steering input and an aggressive stab on the throttle you can easily turn it around lol
I have 2016 F82 and I've never had to reconnect my phone. Works all the time. Your right on the seat badges though, real let down.. and $$$ to upgrade. Hope this video helps perspective buyers out
I bought a late 2018 M3 Comp and I was getting buyers regret, but then I drove it around the neighborhood and just couldn't process why I'd ever sell it after growing up with a poster of a e36 m3 on my wall. People who have never ridden in one or driven a M3 will have many excuses as to why its a bad purchase or just doesn't make sense but once you get the chance to be in it or to drive it hard and feel what its about.... its really really difficult to justify it as a bad purchase.
Just bought a 2018 M3 comp (waiting for it to be delivered), having buyers regret as well, but I keep telling myself that once I drive it the cost will be immediately justified. Your comment validated that for me. Thanks!!! 😎
I can tell you this, I HONESTLY REGRET selling my F80 Comp 2018 for a G80. The F80 has Much MORE SOUL and the G80 Comp is tooo boring af. I still miss my f80 but can never find a pure OEM used with low miles. So dont ever sell it bro its an instant classic now. S55 Engine is the new 2JZ : )
Nice review! One thing I usually do in a paddleshift dct car when I'm turning and need to upshift is that I would just use the shifter to upshift and then go back to paddle shifters when my steering is back to center.
M4CS comes with wider tires. Where as the M4 comes with a really thin tire set up (common complaint from owners) also the M4CS was entirely built around the CUP 2 tires. Power delivery was also refined on the CS due to punchy/explosive torque delivery from the M4/3.
The iDrive system works great. If you have to reconnect it every week you should probably check your Head Unit or iPhone. iPhone is struggling with iDrive systems all the time... I don´t know why. You could try to update your iDrive so psz Data, that should help you out a lot
I would dump that tune and get a proper one. You can seriously make this car into and absolute pleasure to drive with a $1K tune. I would personally get a different exhaust also. Otherwise I can seriously agree with all your issues. Great vid.
ONE THING TO BE ADDED AND UNDERSTOOD, THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LOW RADIUS TURN IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUILD TO TURN, THIS CAR DRIFTS, SO YOU TURN THE CAR BUILDING REVS AND DRIFTING SAME AS U DID WHEN U TURN LEFT EXPLAINING THE HIGH ENGINE TORQUE. LIKE THAT AWE EXHAUST
I bought a used BMW 128i with 97,000 miles with an extended warranty. Within the first month a rod bearing failed and destroyed the engine, so it needed to be replaced. Two months later the valve body became severely worn causing a shutter at speeds of 45-65mph. Thus, my transmission had to be replaced. My local mechanics could have started charging me seasonal storage fees, as my car spent more time in the shop than it did in my garage. However, all is now at bay and my car drives like the dream it was meant to be from the start. While my case is quite extreme, my advice to anyone buying a used BMW is this: understand the previous owner(s) might have seriously abused the car you’re about the buy.
Use silicone spray lubricant around your surrounds that contact the windows. Might need a few tins. Windows should run more easily. Will also act as a rain repellant.
Had mine for 2 years! got rid of it, stage 2 was fun, and manual trans - Car was putting good power but was never able to put it down, of course in rain it sucked, there was no first and second gear, it as the car would not hook! yeah I could go with better tires like R888R - but they would suck in rain! I don't keep my car's in the garage, I drive them! including winter time! I wanted a straight line car. I found a really good deal on a GT-R that was local! so I bought it!, pretty happy about it. Each time I get an Audi or BMW I don't keep it for too long! :-/ I'm awd turbo guy for sure! oh yeah the car threw drivetrain code ones but it went away! car had 50k miles when I got rid of it.
True. I had the manual as well for almost 5 years. Even with the best tires and all traction controls off it was hard, basically impossible to put down all the power.
@@StreetDrivenDaily you are right but I feel like they made it too heavy and big for what historically the m3 used to be. Every company is doing tho. The m2 cs I thunk it’s closest experience to a classic m3 handling and driving experience
'17 F82 owner here. I'll add something that I know EVERY F8X owner hates... The default driving mode setting every time you start the car up is set to Efficient/Sport/Sport and that is absolutely the worst function ever. Plus, your previous driving mode you shut down the car with will not be present on start-up. So you have to reset your driving mode every time you start your car or dedicate an M button to a daily setting. Love your vids man keep it up 🤙🏾
I do hate that too. I just drive on efficient / comfort to work in the morning and I always have to push 50 quintillion buttons. I agree, it should save your settings or at least let us have a "user default" option in iDrive
These cars got wide front wheels,doesnt help with turning circle, the torque curve is peaky,its been retuned in the M4 comp, you can just have it tuned eith bmd3...yours sounds awesome tho
Totally agree with the prolonged cold start and the paddles annoyance. Not had issues with my M4 seat badges nor a need to reconnect phone. Other niggles include: stop start, I know it can be coded out, but still annoying from factory. Also car starts up in efficient mode, with sport steering and suspension 🤦♂️. Final niggle….these damn M badges seem 10 a penny these days, everyone seems to have one on their car 😂 I seriously love the car, had mine 16 months. The F80/F82/F83 will be a future classic. The engine, the looks. I can’t take to the G series
I have a bmw e60 m5 with 58k miles on it itb truly is a remarkable car i think you got what you paid for back in the day all the amenities one would need and they those amenities accommodate well and others can be upgraded to current mechanically no problems
I never had to reconnect my phone after I got my car a year ago. I think its a problem with your phone or idrive version so I wouldn’t tell others they will have issues with that
I lived in South Africa, a country which is very hard on cars. It was rare to see a BMW more than 6 years old. Mercedes and Toyotas were still running strong after 20 years!
#8: I always use the centre stick if I have to shift when my hands are moved on the wheel (which I admit, is rare - usually a dual carriageway exit ramp that leads to a stop sign and I need to change down.
I have a '15 M4. I've never had an issue with my phone disconnecting after a week. And you're driving in sport plus around town, put it in comfort mode and it's not really an issue. If anything, the biggest issue with the car is the crank hub.
great video but, you could get a nissan micra with no seat badge wear , no window winding noise , amazing turning radius and of course a very quite start up. Yeah thanks for the heads up
My M5 f10 cold start had 2 levels..idles high for about 15 secs then drops a bit for another minute before valves open on exhaust then normal idle. Thing is when the car is sat for a while after use it does the same but the second drop lasts for a good 2 mins or more before valves open. You can drive off but it's a bit jerky as the revs are pushing you along through gear changes until valves open again. This has got progressively longer as the car has got older...not a major issue just gets a bit tiresome sat there when you just want to get moving. Not sure what causes it but guess it's age/wear on some component?
How many miles when you picked it up? And how many miles now? Any carbon deposit issues? Have you gone to get carbon cleaning and if so, can you feel a difference?
My friend just bought a used one of these. Its stock. He said he was gonna get a downpipe. I had a turbo german car bitd and advised him not to modify it if he wanted to keep that low torque curve. When i upgraded just my intake on my turbo the torque band was ruined then had to get many things to get back to acceptable. German turbo cars are finely tuned and once you mess with them they almost always run worse. Ive found turbo cars are way funner with the big torque starting low on the rpm. Otherwise you have to rev up all high and it just looses grip.
If your phone doesnt play music on your idrive system all you gotta do is hold the volume button down for two minutes. Let your idrive refresh. It will fix everything. DO NOT disconnect your phone.
Hi, Other defects: Quality of the front windshield, to be changed every year Sound quality Front seats, leg extension not adjustable Heat, make it necessary to tint the windows Ceramic brakes dangerous in heavy rain BMW service void if optimizations performed
When you talk about disconnecting/reconnecting your phone to play music all you have to do is press “radio” then go back to media and bam.. music will play
@@roach902 yup. Auto on the DCTs is next to useless. It’s like trying to muzzle on a Rottweiler. It was actually quite good on the regular ZF8 autos though! But it’s actually almost dangerous on the dct 🤣 …slowing down at a junction then realising you didn’t need so you go back on the power and the ‘box is like, ..”urrrrrrm… right, one sec…urm..that one, nope, that one,” 😂
i am using F10 M5....i never had any issue with Bluetooth connectivity with my iphone ...the only issue that i agree is the paddle shift placement on the steering wheel. Its a pain when i am turning it completely...other then that....long cold start....not an issue even though my car paired with meisterschaft exhaust...i just love to hear the loud rumbling cold start...just to annoy my neighbors :)
The funniest part about this video is literally the only complaints I have about my x5m. I literally thought that "torque curve" was just my car but apparently its with every model. That's relieving. Its very unpredictable and you never know where its going to be even if you switch to manual.
I hate the turning radius, I hate the high maintenance costs especially if you take it to the STEALership. I hate the Brake Dust from the Carbon Ceramic Brakes.. I hate having to reach back 2 miles to grab NY seat belt.....this car definitely needs that Seatbelt Butler thingy. I hate the stock exhaust sound, that will be my next mod. Love your channel Bruh
If you have the music/media connected via bluetooth, it will work fine, until you connect it with the iphone cable. Once connected with the iphone cable, you must either disconnect and re-connect the phone, but much easier, you can hit the options button when your phone is highlighted in the bluetooth menu, and just re enable the media directly rather than having to disconnect and reconnect the phone.
All good points, except the paddle shifter comment. M4 is for racing and tracking; most racers will rather have the paddle-shifters on the steering for easy access while turning while keeping full control of the steering. Conversely, having them on the column will leave you searching for the paddle shifter while turning. Now, on a
Totally agree with the 428 it's the simple things. About to upgrade from my 330ci she's done 150k now. Not keen on the m4 but I definitely like the 4 shape do you have any suggestions on a good petrol engine?
@@JusZard He was saying he doesn't like steering wheel mounted paddles for when he's turning. Shifting with the console shifter is easier than having to keep track of where the paddles are on the steering wheel when making 90 degree or more turns.
I'm a German BMW owner in Germany and 1) the torque isn't unpredictable in this car, it's the complete opposite. Torque will always kick in since it's a supercharged engine but it has a smooth torque curve compared to some other supercharged cars and it will come always at the same rpm so it IS predictable. Don't buy a supercharged car at all if you don't want this behaviour. 2) shift paddles at the steering wheel are way more expensive to engineer and to fabric than static ones. They are made this way for a reason: it's track optimized, so you can still shift if your steering wheel is in 90°degrees. The only thing you mentioned I find annoying as well is the sound of the window. But you can solve that pretty easy.
Disclaimer: I had to find small things to hate since there truly is barely anything to dislike about the BMW M4! If I couldn’t find anything to hate, this video would be pointless. Enjoy!
One note to you on that disconnect Bluetooth thing. If next time you find out ur music won’t play don’t just disconnect it try to put ur car music input to the AUX and then click back and choose it back to Bluetooth connection. And you should hear the music no problem. It’s much faster than do the disconnect phone thing
Nice ride! You can still drive off with the cold start, just don’t drive like a hoon ‘til the engine is up to it’s normal operating temperature…and your neighbors will love you for it.
What do you say them for is reliable past 80k miles
What year is that
Waste of money wtf is this trash
For a better turning radius you have to give more throttle.. 😂😂
Yep. Its a bmw... basic stuff
Lmfaoooooo
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I rented out an M4 off of Turo using my Mom’s info for my 21st birthday about 3 years ago. And again a year later as a rental for a trip to San Francisco. I fell in love with the car instantly and I promised myself I would own a 2018-2020 model in the future
yeah id avoid the clapped out pre lci models. lci feels so much better driving wise and more refined
I’m ordering a brand new 2022 next month …. Black with red leather, red calipers and every carbon option.
Make your dreams a reality.
Life is what happens when most people are making grand plans.
I bought one about a year ago and Turo can be your best friend. If you buy one then rent it out a few days of the month, it will help cover the payments. Depending on your area they can rent for $200-$400 a day. Best of luck!
@@ryanjofre you mean try and justify your delusions as reality. Unless you’re a multimillionaire…you’re an idiot if you buy a new car costing over $80K. If you did…hope you’re enjoying those car and insurance payments 😂
@@johnsimoney2035 - I went for a 2021 M5 competition! Even with 740 credit and 30k down the payments where horrible! My credit union offered me an excellent rate but only with 60k down and 36 month.
I can pay cash but.....lol.
Sorry if your not in my League dude. I probably make more $$$ in my sleep than you with your 9-5.
So basically small petty things in a nutshell that most ppl wouldn't even consider
Exactly the car is amazing
@@BeemerFam hey at least youre honest about it lol, i love this gen of M4.
Thanks. Saved me 10 minutes of my life watching a video
The big things are the crazy service interval costs if you have a new vehicle and bmw trying to screw you out of every $ that you have 😠
@@chrisvig123 ong it’s like going to Gucci or whatever designer place they will charge you way more because of their reputation etc. that’s why I go to certified mechanics that know how to work on bmws but are not a bmw dealership. It will cut your costs for everything most of the time half of the price of bmw dealerships
Don’t think I’ve ever heard a car enthusiast complain about too long of a cold start 😂 tell the neighbors to quit cryin smh
" me running to the window each time my neighbour starts his car just for this "
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Facts 😂
I would be annoyed if it’s the car I use in the morning ngl
Totally ! Why didn’t he buy a camry 🤷🏻♂️
Driving like a true BMW owner through the city.
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The thing I hated most about my 2015 M4 was the exhaust rattle on startup with the stock exhaust. It drove me nuts because it sounded cheap, and it was honestly such a relief when I met other M3/M4 owners who heard it and went "yours does that too?!"
If there anything like my e90 335. It has a valve in the stock exhaust that rattles on cold start and I had to simply unplug it, now it sounds awesome no more rattle!
Ppl kept asking me if my car is a diesel
i like the looks of the m3 and m4 f8x but gotta admit man e92 is much better sound and handling ...
@@pauljasondimasaca2462I don't know how the E9X M3 could possibly handle better (unless you're talking about steering feel?), but you're on the money about it sounding better! That's FOR DANG SURE!
Lmao oh so it’s not just mine lol bro I was scared something was messed up in my m4 😭
I am doing everything I can to have those problems.
The poor turning radius is common in vehicles with wide front tires.
The unpredictable torque can actually be fixed and made better with an updated sw flash from the dealer. I had a family member with a 2015 and it improved significantly after.
for the paddle shifters, usually when making those turns from a standstill, it's going from 1st to 2nd gear so I just use the shift knob instead
your mum uses that on all her nobs
1. The torque curve has never been an issue unless you're driving way too aggressively on the street
2. The dct paddles on the wheel aren't an issue... You shouldn't be shifting mid turn anyway
Literally everyone knows the stock S55 torque curve is too agressive and the car is very snappy. And you can actually feel it even on normal daily driving commute
@@Scrytheux Never a concern for me... Then again, I'm not mashing the gas to 5k rpm at every corner I see.
lol bmw owners are the biggest whiny little crybabies i've ever met in my life.
Since when too much torque is a problem? Is that really a thing? Please.....
It's an M car primarily designed for track. You want smooth that's the 440i job.
I love the effort in blurring out the speedometer, but you left the heads up display LOL
Sick car man. Love it
I thought about going with the M4 but ended up going with the 435xi (F33) as my weekender. TBH, I enjoy my 4 Runner more. I enjoy your videos, thanks!
Turn the wheel before you move… turning radius improved🤯
Torque delivery is why i prefer Audi. Audi makes you feel like a good driver whereas BMW you really have to be a good driver
I love that cold start ❤️
If I had an M4 I'd be too busy smiling to complain 😁
Very good video! As a fellow F82 owner, I agree with most of your comments, especially the seat logos and the unpredictable torque. Replacing the logos with the newer black ones is well worth the ~ $300 investment, in my opinion. I have just gotten used to the cold start loudness but I agree it’s pretty annoying (especially in my 1-car garage). I took my traction control off twice but I’ve been “scared straight” after a pretty good “snap” under moderate acceleration. Not worth pushing this very powerful car to hard...can be very expensive ;)
All in all, I absolutely love my car and I hope that you get as much joy out of yours! Cheers! 🍻
I would definitely recommend finding an open parking lot and getting to know your traction limits better, itll make you feel much safer pushing your limits later.
How can you not like a long coldstart. Louder sound, so enjoyable!
Will agree with you on the turning radius - it's terrible! For traction, you must go with at least Pilot Sport 4 S or Cup 2 tires - Super Sports don't cut it. I drive with all traction control completely off and do not have traction issues, tho my car is a manual. Very first mod I did to the car was cold start delete via MHD tune. Thanks - good video, man!
PotEnza re did pretty well for me too in the summer
Catless and cold start delete via mhd is the way to go
Super sports are stickier than 4S...hence being a “summer only tire” while 4S is all season. Cup 2 is by far the stickiest tire, basically a circuit racing tire
@@isogamer12 Both are labeled 'max performance summer' tires and have the same 300 treadwear rating. Granted, the set of Super Sports I had was at less than 50% - they came with a set of used 666 wheels I bought - so maybe not a fair comp. I'm super happy with the S4's - except for the price 🙂
Yeah if you’re catless..otherwise it will not like it
Great review. Although this was supposed to be things to dislike I still enjoyed the vid. BTW, I have a M4 pushin 750 hp 710 to the wheel and I was able to correct all those minor things with proper tuning minus the turning radius.
Wow. 700???
That’s the best engine BMW makes !! My buddy worked at the dealership and said they hardly came back for repair !! Also m4 is best balance of handling and power !!
M4 is my next car 💯
Crank hub
The reason they don't come back is because guys who buy M cars don't take them to the dealership to get them worked on they take them to performance shops like Eurofed or 412 Motorsports & Solo Motorsports as dealerships just cant be trusted with precious M vehicles people who work at performance shops share a passion and love for cars and you can usually be right next to your car when it's getting worked on so there's that
@@tylercouture216 haha true i wouldn’t take my M to the dealer unless it’s under warranty or I really want to upgrade the performance.
@@Carlos-qu8ue I have certified Bimmer mechanic who works on mine him only
Your videos are excellent bro!
I'm thinking about upgrading my 09' BMW 335xi to a newer (but still used) model 2015-2016 BMW m4. So I'm trying to weight out the pros/cons your vids help a lot.
Interesting. I rented a BMW M4 this past weekend in LA. I was taken aback as to the time it took to warm up. Thought something was wrong with the car at first.
About the turning radius, that's why BMW made it RWD so with a quick steering input and an aggressive stab on the throttle you can easily turn it around lol
I have 2016 F82 and I've never had to reconnect my phone. Works all the time. Your right on the seat badges though, real let down.. and $$$ to upgrade. Hope this video helps perspective buyers out
I bought a late 2018 M3 Comp and I was getting buyers regret, but then I drove it around the neighborhood and just couldn't process why I'd ever sell it after growing up with a poster of a e36 m3 on my wall. People who have never ridden in one or driven a M3 will have many excuses as to why its a bad purchase or just doesn't make sense but once you get the chance to be in it or to drive it hard and feel what its about.... its really really difficult to justify it as a bad purchase.
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i got f80 too its sick af especially after some carbon mods and stage 2 tune. currently waiting on AA EL midpipe
You buy cars like this with your heart not your head.
Just bought a 2018 M3 comp (waiting for it to be delivered), having buyers regret as well, but I keep telling myself that once I drive it the cost will be immediately justified. Your comment validated that for me. Thanks!!! 😎
I can tell you this, I HONESTLY REGRET selling my F80 Comp 2018 for a G80. The F80 has Much MORE SOUL and the G80 Comp is tooo boring af. I still miss my f80 but can never find a pure OEM used with low miles.
So dont ever sell it bro its an instant classic now. S55 Engine is the new 2JZ : )
Spray WD-40 in window holes once every 4-6 months and there wont be no squeaky noises
Does it really work???
@@hasan_440i it lubricates the mehanism and that makes the window regulator mehanism and motor work smoother, which helps reduce noise
@@SoonYouLLBe okay thnx bro 🤙 I am gonna do it for my f30 I hate squeaky noises
Isn’t it bad for the seals? It will deteriorate them quicker? A BMW SA got mad when I told them I did that in mine lol.
@@SwoleBravoo WD40 eats rubber apart. Do not listen to these ass hats
i got this exact car and i’m wrapping it blue next month i love it drives so smooth!!
Thanks for ur video man 👍🏽
Nice review! One thing I usually do in a paddleshift dct car when I'm turning and need to upshift is that I would just use the shifter to upshift and then go back to paddle shifters when my steering is back to center.
Yeah same. It's necessary. And not hard to do.
I like how you blurred the speed dial yet it’s all there on the head up display 🤣
That raw BMW M sound...Gunshottttttttt 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dope car bro!
I have the same year/model and everything you said is true 😂. Still love my baby
The late tale kick is the turbo lag. They can say "no lag" all they want, but I can feel it even on my 328i
Man, just be happy you got it 👍, your blessed
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Never heard a car guy complain about a cold start. I look forward to mornings lol
I don’t notice the traction issue with my m4 cs, could be because of the tune or the cup 2 tires 😂 great vid btw
M4CS comes with wider tires. Where as the M4 comes with a really thin tire set up (common complaint from owners) also the M4CS was entirely built around the CUP 2 tires. Power delivery was also refined on the CS due to punchy/explosive torque delivery from the M4/3.
The iDrive system works great. If you have to reconnect it every week you should probably check your Head Unit or iPhone. iPhone is struggling with iDrive systems all the time... I don´t know why. You could try to update your iDrive so psz Data, that should help you out a lot
Something hysterical about the fact that the hud still shows the speed when the speedo is blurred out in some shots
Also when he tries to cover the license plate
I would dump that tune and get a proper one. You can seriously make this car into and absolute pleasure to drive with a $1K tune. I would personally get a different exhaust also. Otherwise I can seriously agree with all your issues. Great vid.
ONE THING TO BE ADDED AND UNDERSTOOD, THE FACT THAT IT HAS A LOW RADIUS TURN IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUILD TO TURN, THIS CAR DRIFTS, SO YOU TURN THE CAR BUILDING REVS AND DRIFTING SAME AS U DID WHEN U TURN LEFT EXPLAINING THE HIGH ENGINE TORQUE.
LIKE THAT AWE EXHAUST
Many Thanks, Peace From London. 🙏🙏🙏
nice vid!
Thinking of either getting this or a c7 Zo6 for my channel haha . Thanks for this vid
Me personally I love my BMW to be as loud as possible so a long cold start is a plus for me.
same
Yup same I love it
I bought a used BMW 128i with 97,000 miles with an extended warranty. Within the first month a rod bearing failed and destroyed the engine, so it needed to be replaced. Two months later the valve body became severely worn causing a shutter at speeds of 45-65mph. Thus, my transmission had to be replaced. My local mechanics could have started charging me seasonal storage fees, as my car spent more time in the shop than it did in my garage. However, all is now at bay and my car drives like the dream it was meant to be from the start. While my case is quite extreme, my advice to anyone buying a used BMW is this: understand the previous owner(s) might have seriously abused the car you’re about the buy.
You have an amazing chanel bro, I currently have the 2020 F32 440i coupe, i just installed the sports cat with MST intake on stage 2 tune.
Use silicone spray lubricant around your surrounds that contact the windows. Might need a few tins. Windows should run more easily. Will also act as a rain repellant.
Had mine for 2 years! got rid of it, stage 2 was fun, and manual trans - Car was putting good power but was never able to put it down, of course in rain it sucked, there was no first and second gear, it as the car would not hook! yeah I could go with better tires like R888R - but they would suck in rain! I don't keep my car's in the garage, I drive them! including winter time! I wanted a straight line car. I found a really good deal on a GT-R that was local! so I bought it!, pretty happy about it. Each time I get an Audi or BMW I don't keep it for too long! :-/ I'm awd turbo guy for sure! oh yeah the car threw drivetrain code ones but it went away! car had 50k miles when I got rid of it.
True. I had the manual as well for almost 5 years. Even with the best tires and all traction controls off it was hard, basically impossible to put down all the power.
@@ronaldo19832 i swear f8x could be such an amazing drift car.
@@StreetDrivenDaily you are right but I feel like they made it too heavy and big for what historically the m3 used to be. Every company is doing tho. The m2 cs I thunk it’s closest experience to a classic m3 handling and driving experience
'17 F82 owner here. I'll add something that I know EVERY F8X owner hates... The default driving mode setting every time you start the car up is set to Efficient/Sport/Sport and that is absolutely the worst function ever. Plus, your previous driving mode you shut down the car with will not be present on start-up. So you have to reset your driving mode every time you start your car or dedicate an M button to a daily setting.
Love your vids man keep it up 🤙🏾
I do hate that too. I just drive on efficient / comfort to work in the morning and I always have to push 50 quintillion buttons. I agree, it should save your settings or at least let us have a "user default" option in iDrive
These cars got wide front wheels,doesnt help with turning circle, the torque curve is peaky,its been retuned in the M4 comp, you can just have it tuned eith bmd3...yours sounds awesome tho
Totally agree with the prolonged cold start and the paddles annoyance. Not had issues with my M4 seat badges nor a need to reconnect phone. Other niggles include: stop start, I know it can be coded out, but still annoying from factory. Also car starts up in efficient mode, with sport steering and suspension 🤦♂️. Final niggle….these damn M badges seem 10 a penny these days, everyone seems to have one on their car 😂
I seriously love the car, had mine 16 months. The F80/F82/F83 will be a future classic. The engine, the looks. I can’t take to the G series
He did a 3 point turn when he actually had enough clearance to just go on second spin
i threw up while laughing. you should see the parking lot of my local walmart. total gathering of the juggalos
That's why I love my v8 m3. Just picked up a m3 cs. I love that thing. You can code the car to turn off the cold start feature
I have a bmw e60 m5 with 58k miles on it itb truly is a remarkable car i think you got what you paid for back in the day all the amenities one would need and they those amenities accommodate well and others can be upgraded to current mechanically no problems
if you have an issue with the bluetooth audio, ie. no sound coming out, try switching to AUX mode then back to BT on the iDrive
I never had to reconnect my phone after I got my car a year ago. I think its a problem with your phone or idrive version so I wouldn’t tell others they will have issues with that
Same. I have an M2 and never had any issues.
I lived in South Africa, a country which is very hard on cars. It was rare to see a BMW more than 6 years old. Mercedes and Toyotas were still running strong after 20 years!
even newer Mercs?
Sweet ride! 😍
great video
Hey bud, nice ride 👍🏼. Besides the GTS tune do you have down pipes..? Because it sounds dope!!! Not just the burbles at take off also 🤜🏻
Nope just an AWE Track Exhaust and the tune from Alpine Motorsport
#8: I always use the centre stick if I have to shift when my hands are moved on the wheel (which I admit, is rare - usually a dual carriageway exit ramp that leads to a stop sign and I need to change down.
Bro you are correct about the accident prone part, which 5 killed in a M4 crash a few months back in Singapore:(
I have a '15 M4. I've never had an issue with my phone disconnecting after a week. And you're driving in sport plus around town, put it in comfort mode and it's not really an issue. If anything, the biggest issue with the car is the crank hub.
The problem with the crank hub is that it’s blown out of proportion. Not a massive issue or likely to happen on stock motors.
I've had my 16 for nearly 3yrs now and never had an issue with my phone either or windows for that matter 🤷🏽♂️
Cold start noise? Morning coffee I would say….
great video but, you could get a nissan micra with no seat badge wear , no window winding noise , amazing turning radius and of course a very quite start up. Yeah thanks for the heads up
Love how you blurred the speedometer but the speed is on the HUD 😂😂😂🤣
was looking for this comment lmfao
when the speed is blurred on the dash but not on the heads-up display. Love the video though. Keep up the good videos!!
That torque spike is a real problem, few guys I’ve seen crashed all of a sudden from the tail kicking out
My M5 f10 cold start had 2 levels..idles high for about 15 secs then drops a bit for another minute before valves open on exhaust then normal idle. Thing is when the car is sat for a while after use it does the same but the second drop lasts for a good 2 mins or more before valves open. You can drive off but it's a bit jerky as the revs are pushing you along through gear changes until valves open again. This has got progressively longer as the car has got older...not a major issue just gets a bit tiresome sat there when you just want to get moving. Not sure what causes it but guess it's age/wear on some component?
Problem Number 2. The issue is the rubber that makes the seal around your windows. you need to re-oil the rubber seals.
Shhhh...leave the idiots to complain about non-issues. I stopped watching after that...
How many miles when you picked it up? And how many miles now? Any carbon deposit issues? Have you gone to get carbon cleaning and if so, can you feel a difference?
My friend just bought a used one of these. Its stock. He said he was gonna get a downpipe. I had a turbo german car bitd and advised him not to modify it if he wanted to keep that low torque curve. When i upgraded just my intake on my turbo the torque band was ruined then had to get many things to get back to acceptable. German turbo cars are finely tuned and once you mess with them they almost always run worse. Ive found turbo cars are way funner with the big torque starting low on the rpm. Otherwise you have to rev up all high and it just looses grip.
If your phone doesnt play music on your idrive system all you gotta do is hold the volume button down for two minutes. Let your idrive refresh. It will fix everything. DO NOT disconnect your phone.
Hi ! amazing vid :D i have 1 question,this burble sound is this coming with stock M4? i am going to buy M4 tomorrow
Nice car! Is that the original exhaust ?
Hi,
Other defects:
Quality of the front windshield, to be changed every year
Sound quality
Front seats, leg extension not adjustable
Heat, make it necessary to tint the windows
Ceramic brakes dangerous in heavy rain
BMW service void if optimizations performed
When you talk about disconnecting/reconnecting your phone to play music all you have to do is press “radio” then go back to media and bam.. music will play
I like how the shifters are on the steeringwheel
Rite it’s so when ur turning u don’t have to reach back for the paddle shifter
@@wes2473 yeah
Thats the worst thing about this car. Auto blows
@@roach902 yup. Auto on the DCTs is next to useless. It’s like trying to muzzle on a Rottweiler. It was actually quite good on the regular ZF8 autos though! But it’s actually almost dangerous on the dct 🤣 …slowing down at a junction then realising you didn’t need so you go back on the power and the ‘box is like, ..”urrrrrrm… right, one sec…urm..that one, nope, that one,” 😂
Nice video, nice car :) God bless...safe driving, friend.
i am using F10 M5....i never had any issue with Bluetooth connectivity with my iphone ...the only issue that i agree is the paddle shift placement on the steering wheel. Its a pain when i am turning it completely...other then that....long cold start....not an issue even though my car paired with meisterschaft exhaust...i just love to hear the loud rumbling cold start...just to annoy my neighbors :)
I thought the GTS tune fixes the power being constantly cut out
The funniest part about this video is literally the only complaints I have about my x5m. I literally thought that "torque curve" was just my car but apparently its with every model. That's relieving. Its very unpredictable and you never know where its going to be even if you switch to manual.
lmao cold start is the best part
I like how you blur speedometer when speeding up but the head up is still there :D
For spirited driving or if I'm doing HPDE days at the track, I primarily use the gear shifter to change gears as opposed to the paddles.
Same here. Especially since it's in the proper sequential configuration where you pull back to shift up.
I hate the turning radius, I hate the high maintenance costs especially if you take it to the STEALership.
I hate the Brake Dust from the Carbon Ceramic Brakes..
I hate having to reach back 2 miles to grab NY seat belt.....this car definitely needs that Seatbelt Butler thingy.
I hate the stock exhaust sound, that will be my next mod.
Love your channel Bruh
If you have the music/media connected via bluetooth, it will work fine, until you connect it with the iphone cable. Once connected with the iphone cable, you must either disconnect and re-connect the phone, but much easier, you can hit the options button when your phone is highlighted in the bluetooth menu, and just re enable the media directly rather than having to disconnect and reconnect the phone.
All good points, except the paddle shifter comment. M4 is for racing and tracking; most racers will rather have the paddle-shifters on the steering for easy access while turning while keeping full control of the steering. Conversely, having them on the column will leave you searching for the paddle shifter while turning. Now, on a
I own a '15 435xd and i tought the bad turning radius was because it's xDrive? Turns out it's also bad on the M4.
Totally agree with the 428 it's the simple things. About to upgrade from my 330ci she's done 150k now. Not keen on the m4 but I definitely like the 4 shape do you have any suggestions on a good petrol engine?
m440i
That turning circle as bad as the mic volume🤣🤣... Just messing around. Nice video bud!
I use the console shifter rather than paddles when I'm turning
What does have to with turning the car
@@JusZard He was saying he doesn't like steering wheel mounted paddles for when he's turning. Shifting with the console shifter is easier than having to keep track of where the paddles are on the steering wheel when making 90 degree or more turns.
Welcome to owning a Beamer . Rear camera made me laugh. I have a 320i and when it start it my infotainment shows an M logo. BMW has some ghosts!!
That can be changed with basic coding from BimmerCode or ICarly.
Funny how you blue the speedometer to hide your speed but forget a about the head up display :)
I'm a German BMW owner in Germany and 1) the torque isn't unpredictable in this car, it's the complete opposite. Torque will always kick in since it's a supercharged engine but it has a smooth torque curve compared to some other supercharged cars and it will come always at the same rpm so it IS predictable. Don't buy a supercharged car at all if you don't want this behaviour. 2) shift paddles at the steering wheel are way more expensive to engineer and to fabric than static ones. They are made this way for a reason: it's track optimized, so you can still shift if your steering wheel is in 90°degrees.
The only thing you mentioned I find annoying as well is the sound of the window. But you can solve that pretty easy.
What exhaust is that and what mods do you have?
hows the reliability been so far?