It's part of a Domhnall of Zena cosplay set. Henry liked cosplaying but was embarrassed his subjects would call him a weeb so the mask was hidden to keep his secret safe.
If time machines ever become a reality, I think its universally agreed that capturing Henry's reaction to receiving this grotesquely unique gift is right up there as the first time travelling destination!
What'll be the best thing about that is that not only is it butt-ugly, by the time he was given it, Henry was so fat and dumpy (not to mention filled with STDs) the thing didn't even fit his head. :D
@@ezekieljacobs5978 Alas, tis like another ye olde kick in the testicles for king Henry...rich in gold, yet poor in 5 minute ab workouts, sex education and now a mocking mask that was incapable of being placed around his royal fat chops🐷! The presentation of the mask will probably finish him off🤴😵!
Let me guess, you didn't watch the whole video, didn't you? Otherwise you would know that the guy said there is no evidence or written record of a king ever wearing this helmet on the battlefield.
There a difference between "recognizable" and recognized. The helmet is so unique that it is easily recognizable...in comparison to all other helmets, that once you HAVE seen it once, you will recognize it again.
In order to be recognizable it would NEED to be famous. People would have to be aware of it to make that true. Its isn't famous, it's rather obscure. You can argue(quite validly) that it's "remarkable" "memorable" etc. but not most recognizable. Even if you were to narrow it down to a Global time period I'd say the Japanese and Turkish(Ottoman) stuff is more recognized. This snippet is media manipulation/publisher speak to give an obscure piece more weight. Ad writers do this "oh, you HAVEN'T heard of so and so, you must be a troglodyte..." manipulation all the time to create buzz.
@@panchonorthmann6408 No, you're trying to make two different words to mean exactly the same thing. In order for it to be highly recognizable it just needs to be highly unique. For it to be highly recognized it needs to be shown to a very large number of people and (probably) be highly recognizable. "Recognizable" is describing the distinctiveness of the helmet, while "recognized" means that many people have seen it and can recall that they have.
@@seeker7679 yes well for me Henry wasnt catholic But heretic. And unfortunelly almost all kings were and many popes. Were evil. We must destroy Evil realy. Well and im 17 years old. This mask is very devilish also. Tudors were really special. And crazy.
Could it be a bit of a White Elephant? Something obviously crafted with care and expense, but made to poke fun? Or a signifier of you aren't one of us, but you don't dare turn down our gift? Could the horns have been added later, perhaps at the request of Henry, to thumb his nose at the HRE?
It has a whiff of the studied insult about it. Horns could also indicate ... well, horniness. Pan and goats and rams and so on. The Renaissance had more than Christian symbolism at hand. Also, Italian vulgate entertainmants were wildly popular across Europe at the time. A king might dress as a beggar at a fancy ball, or play the idiot in a masque, or act the buffoon in a slapstick commedia del arte. Perhaps this helmet was made for one such specific entertainment? As a courtier, I suppose your task was to laugh at the Fool King ... but not *too* loudly.
We know Henry acted (often incognito) in plays or pageants at court - perhaps the grotesque nature was to add to the "shock" of a ridiculous character being played by no less than the King?
Good theory. The helmet certainly is theatrical. The horns could have been added for extra effect or a particular role. Is there any record of what plays were performed？
@@TiffyVella1 Masque's were elaborate, extravagant, but very short plays performed in the Elizabethan and then Jacobean court, often with the royals acting in them, mostly written by Ben Johnson and other contemporaries. there might have been a precursor to those in Henry VIII's court. For one-time performances, the budgets were really extraordinary, the costumes were elaborate and everything was literally dripping in jewels. The Masque of Blackness by Johnson starred King James's wife. her and her Ladies in Waiting, painted in blackface, searched for the land that would turn their skin white again. After many short adventures, they find themselves in Britannia and they are cured. that's the whole play, only a few pages long, but the budget was in the millions (in our money). There was an element of reinforcing the symbolic power of the state and king through the performance, and we can see in that one the racial politics that were beginning to be developed at the time, as race-pseudo-science was supplanting the greek theory of the humours. So maybe the hook nosed mask here is a remnant of a masque costume referencing anti--semitism?
@@Xloi63 Thanks for the fascinating reply. You have given me some interesting leads to go look further into. The "masques " (forebears of the "masquerades"?) also seem like an opportunity for the wealthy to dress in fabulous ways that custom would not usually allow, hence those naughty horns. Perhaps like the "tableaux" staged in houses a few centuries ago that gave an excuse for more permissive clothing and behaviours than manners dictated. Some used them to parade themselves in frippery, others were aghast at it all and banned them. Anyway, this is drifting off topic. Cheers!
Thanks for the knowledge. I like the idea of a six foot three giant, the most famous man in the world at the time, or one of them, going incognito in his own court. You can imagine the toadying going on as the lackeys pretend not to notice him, no doubt saying such things as, "That actor playing the Fool at last night's masque was amazing!" just within his royal earshot.
Alot of people saying they've never even heard of it. I've known this helmet since I was a kid, and seen it a fair few times too. I guess it depends where on the world you are and what you're taught. I remember it being taught in history class but only as a single line of "here is a funny looking helmet kids"
@@_basco-giallo_1648 he's in the Depths at first and then under the bridge at Firelink Shrine, i don't think he's in Undead Burg but i may have missed him.
Henry visits Max. Amonst the entertainments, Max has gathered some players to put on a comedy. Henry loves it, laughs a lot, comments on how funny the costume is. Max offers the helmet as a gift. One of many possible simple, reasonable explanations.
the only theory that makes sense is that King Henry VIII was the original Scarecrow (Batman Begins) and would wear this while interrogating prisoners after having poisoned them with hallucinogenic substances
The helmet is definitely a piece of art. It's too bad there are so many unknown questions about it, but maybe only certain people were ever supposed to know the answers to them. It does give you a sense that some kind of taboo humor surrounded it.
I think that Henry did this as an answer to some remark or comment that was made, because although the horns were well made they were very rapidly attached as if in anger while if they were put on for some royal event they would have been put on with skill and care and so the alteration must have been done by order of the King as no one else would never have dared to do that to it
@@metalmark9276 Can you imagine what the full suit must have looked like? I'm guessing he never really put it on. I was amazed looking at one of Henry's other suits and how HUGE it was. That was when they had to hoist him up on top of that poor horse.
@@metalmark9276 As I noted elsewhere, there is a good chance the horns and spectacles were added at a later time. In the early part of his reign, Henry was looked upon as a Renaissance Prince; well educated in many areas who loved a good debate, especially on religion. His athleticism was admirable. Everyone had great hopes for him at that time. But it was not to be. Another historical "what if".
My theory is it was originally meant and used by Henry the 8th. After quite some time, it was sold to someone involved in the theater productions which then added the horns to possibly portray Henry the 8th as a snot nosed monster. It was Henry's actual armour after all. What better prop than the helm itself?
i clicked on this because this helmet bears a striking resemblance to the dark souls NPC Domnhall of Zena's headgear and most certainly was the inspiration for that character. interesting stuff!
I think medieval rulers maybe just had a better sense of humor than we suspect. It's a little like buying your friend a top hat: it's not so ridiculous as to imply insult yet ridiculous enough that you wouldn't expect them to wear it every day or ever...
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Why has the theory not been put forward that something like this might inspire fear in one's enemies in the midst of battle? I don't know about you, but if I was lining up for battle and saw a horned figure leading the opposing army, I might have second thoughts about taking them on. Something for consideration.
@@mateokarlvonpavlovic8295 The only Christianity was Catholicism until the deformers of the 1500s, including Horny Henry VIII who defended the Faith until he decided his lust was more important than the pope's blessing.
@@tgbluewolf yes well im a catholic to but i dont like many popes cardinals and bishops and priests. not all of them were good. its shame what did they do to catholic church. someone must clean evil from good catholic church. the church is to clean for these evil bastards. do you agree with me
is it possible they have the date of the gifting wrong? Would make sense if the HRE sent this to Henry 8 after he left the Catholic church, to mock him.
I recognize it, if only because it's a helmet you can wear in the game Chivalry 2. (There's a good deal of customization in that game in terms of armor and weapons)
There was a helmet just like this in my family owned by my grandfather and given to my uncle. It is gone now but was made of bronze looking metal.and had genuine horns attached.
It was meant as a joke to be seen and not to be worn as Henry and maximillian were friendly. The rams horns represented Henry's love life. The spectacles represented his astigmatism, and the teeth represented Henry's notorious sense of humour.
The fool that originally wore that was probably some spy master assassin shit you only see in movies. Probably an amazing life story connected to that thing
You need to also take into account the political and military strengths of givers and receivers. And on what occasion it was gifted. Between powerful men, unlikely to come in direct conflict, it's quite possible that one would criticize the other through such a gift. The value and artistry would demand Henry kept it. It's destruction would have signaled to those around Henry that it bothered him. So he would have kept it and even displayed it while gritting his teeth.
The helmet and armour depicts a Venetian. Venice had a history of financing England and had built up a strong relationship with the Tudors and various English monarchs prior. This was in order to maintain French attention to the north, rather than military expansion south into Italy ( proxy war). The armour is sent as a half joke/ half threat as if to say do you think these people can protect you. This is at a time when tensions are rising throughout Europe and England is seen as a potential problem for the Holy Roman empire. Eventually this would lead to the Spanish- English war, when the armarda attempted to invade Elizabethan England.
@@metalmark9276 I dont think Henry wore it, like they said in the videos the sizes just for fit human anatomy, I think the fools idea could be very logical as Henry became very unpopular when he broke from Rome and by some ther nobles of how he treated Catherine
This is what happens when gag gifts are seen out of context.
Hahaha. That's as good as his theories!
@WonderWaffles shit made me spit out my drink! Upvote this man!
@@Clos93 u frum redit
@WonderWaffles That's brilliant.
@@comradesusiwolf1599 reddit outside of reddit is gay
Kind of amazed that a helmet I've never seen before or heard of is "the most recognizable helmet in the world."
True for me too. It is not that I am an authority on helmets, but if this is the most recognizable, then I think I have lived deceived for eons.
haha, same! So glad I'm not alone!
It's the logo angle that he might be referring too. But again you have to know that's the logo.
@Erin Bliss Kinda rude, isn't that?
@Erin Bliss Doesn't mean you need to be a jerk.
Dark Souls Players be like: "one Set of Ornstein Armor please"
Was scrolling through comments to see a DS comment lol
Aye, siwmae! And good day to you.
I would be happy with the elite knight set.
It's domhnall
Yassss, I was looking for my fellow DS’ers. Praise the sun🌞
It's part of a Domhnall of Zena cosplay set. Henry liked cosplaying but was embarrassed his subjects would call him a weeb so the mask was hidden to keep his secret safe.
Aye, siwmae. And good day to you
I clicked the video for this reason
@@nitsuanomrah6997 lol
Peter whom - Author ? Any one ? He has a strong accent . Fab piece; by the way
So this is the medieval version of the Masked Singer?
Wow, I can't believe Henry was such a fan of Dark Souls that he had one of these helmets made!
This helmet was made during Henry VIII's little known Groucho Marx period.
Well that explains alot.
more likely his well known evil period.
AHHH - HA - HA!! (giggle...snort)! 😄
That was the short period during which he engaged Hoongadoongah, Hoongadoongah, Hooongadoongah and McCormack to handle his divorce from Catherine.
@@harryflashman9495 😂😂😂😂😂
King: "Why didn't anyone tell me this looks stupid?"
Subjects: (hands protect their throats)
Auditory gulping ensues
I think it looks kind of awesome in it's own way
Pfft it's obviously a Helm of the Wise, part of the Adventurer's armour set; As sold by Domhnall of Zena.
Shame they lost the other pieces. The full set bonus is op.
"Aye Siwmae"
@Pete Lester What is the point of this racist comment that came out of nowhere? Rick and I were talking about video game stuff.
@@RowdyBoy82 the point is the truth
@Pete Lester What's Christianity have to do with it?
Normal ppl: This is a weird helmet.
Dark souls players: Aye, Siwmae!
that what i thought hahaha
literallyyyyy omg
holy shit
So this is where they got the inspiration. No question about it
Great minds think alike
"Aye, siwmae!"
-Some merchant, I don't know
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"Aye, siwmae. Never thought I'd see you here. This feels karmaic." 👀
Was looking for a comment like this. Exactly what I thought too. DS1 reference
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I have no idea what this reference is, the Welsh drew me in
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@@Wolfenhawk play dark souls it's a nice and easy game for the whole family to enjoy
If time machines ever become a reality, I think its universally agreed that capturing Henry's reaction to receiving this grotesquely unique gift is right up there as the first time travelling destination!
What'll be the best thing about that is that not only is it butt-ugly, by the time he was given it, Henry was so fat and dumpy (not to mention filled with STDs) the thing didn't even fit his head. :D
@@ezekieljacobs5978 Alas, tis like another ye olde kick in the testicles for king Henry...rich in gold, yet poor in 5 minute ab workouts, sex education and now a mocking mask that was incapable of being placed around his royal fat chops🐷! The presentation of the mask will probably finish him off🤴😵!
It did but I shot the the guy and now they're looking for him in the future.
Lol, not even close to the first thing I’d do if I could time travel!
"Aye siwmae. And good day to you. That was a fine trade"
Kind of interesting how in real life it's called the mask of the fool, but it's called the helm of the wise in dark souls
I was searching for a Dark Souls reference. Praise the sun, brother!
@@Yeetomato because its deceiving. Behave like a fool to trick you.
Imagine how terrified you would be on the battlefield seeing a king wear this masterpiece ..
Let me guess, you didn't watch the whole video, didn't you?
Otherwise you would know that the guy said there is no evidence or written record of a king ever wearing this helmet on the battlefield.
@@mammontustado9680 he said "imagine" so Its a hypothetical. no need to be rude lol
Considering it was made as a joke, people would be laughing not terrified lol. I mean look at at it, its goofy as hell.
@@irarelyupload6930at a far distance it would look like a demon
Especially on somebody his size!
That's a Larry David helmet! That's why it's so recognizable haha
There a difference between "recognizable" and recognized. The helmet is so unique that it is easily recognizable...in comparison to all other helmets, that once you HAVE seen it once, you will recognize it again.
I'm surprised a lot of people in the comment section don't get this
@@stephan137 Wa? What has that got to do with anything in this comment threat? 🙄
In order to be recognizable it would NEED to be famous. People would have to be aware of it to make that true. Its isn't famous, it's rather obscure. You can argue(quite validly) that it's "remarkable" "memorable" etc. but not most recognizable. Even if you were to narrow it down to a Global time period I'd say the Japanese and Turkish(Ottoman) stuff is more recognized.
This snippet is media manipulation/publisher speak to give an obscure piece more weight.
Ad writers do this "oh, you HAVEN'T heard of so and so, you must be a troglodyte..." manipulation all the time to create buzz.
@@panchonorthmann6408 No, you're trying to make two different words to mean exactly the same thing. In order for it to be highly recognizable it just needs to be highly unique. For it to be highly recognized it needs to be shown to a very large number of people and (probably) be highly recognizable.
"Recognizable" is describing the distinctiveness of the helmet, while "recognized" means that many people have seen it and can recall that they have.
@@panchonorthmann6408 ^what he said
I'm 53 and an avid reader and fan of medieval history and I've never heard of it let alone seen it before. Strange.
Not really because Henry the viii was the beginning of the Tudor age of history, not midieval period. There's a few centuries difference there.
@@TraceyAllen yes thank you Miss Pedant I'm aware of that.
@@seeker7679 you are welcome.
@@TraceyAllen 😉
@@seeker7679 yes well for me Henry wasnt catholic But heretic. And unfortunelly almost all kings were and many popes. Were evil. We must destroy Evil realy. Well and im 17 years old. This mask is very devilish also. Tudors were really special. And crazy.
Maybe you could make a CGI of what it originally looked like and tack it on the end. You said gold, silver, and velvet. It'd be fun to see that. 😊
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Could it be a bit of a White Elephant? Something obviously crafted with care and expense, but made to poke fun? Or a signifier of you aren't one of us, but you don't dare turn down our gift? Could the horns have been added later, perhaps at the request of Henry, to thumb his nose at the HRE?
The shade! The shade of it all!
It has a whiff of the studied insult about it. Horns could also indicate ... well, horniness. Pan and goats and rams and so on. The Renaissance had more than Christian symbolism at hand. Also, Italian vulgate entertainmants were wildly popular across Europe at the time. A king might dress as a beggar at a fancy ball, or play the idiot in a masque, or act the buffoon in a slapstick commedia del arte. Perhaps this helmet was made for one such specific entertainment?
As a courtier, I suppose your task was to laugh at the Fool King ... but not *too* loudly.
This! So many times we forget or underestimate that people had a sense on humor also back in the day!
@@umekara3889 they may not know the same things we do today.
But they still have the same brain (and emotions) we do today.
@@robertmcgovern8850 I don't think that the word "horny" with the meaning of-
exist before.
This guy has a job only nine year old boys think actually exists
I would've studied so much harder in college had I known this career path existed!
Probably one of the coolest jobs there is!
@Brenda Harper And all that so he can swing swords and make swooshing sounds when no one's looking.
@Brenda Harper If you think anyone's belittling this dude's job, you've never been a nine year old boy.
Yes. And we all wish *we* had his job!
We know Henry acted (often incognito) in plays or pageants at court - perhaps the grotesque nature was to add to the "shock" of a ridiculous character being played by no less than the King?
Good theory. The helmet certainly is theatrical. The horns could have been added for extra effect or a particular role. Is there any record of what plays were performed？
@@TiffyVella1 Masque's were elaborate, extravagant, but very short plays performed in the Elizabethan and then Jacobean court, often with the royals acting in them, mostly written by Ben Johnson and other contemporaries. there might have been a precursor to those in Henry VIII's court. For one-time performances, the budgets were really extraordinary, the costumes were elaborate and everything was literally dripping in jewels.
The Masque of Blackness by Johnson starred King James's wife. her and her Ladies in Waiting, painted in blackface, searched for the land that would turn their skin white again. After many short adventures, they find themselves in Britannia and they are cured. that's the whole play, only a few pages long, but the budget was in the millions (in our money). There was an element of reinforcing the symbolic power of the state and king through the performance, and we can see in that one the racial politics that were beginning to be developed at the time, as race-pseudo-science was supplanting the greek theory of the humours. So maybe the hook nosed mask here is a remnant of a masque costume referencing anti--semitism?
@@Xloi63 Thanks for the fascinating reply. You have given me some interesting leads to go look further into.
The "masques " (forebears of the "masquerades"?) also seem like an opportunity for the wealthy to dress in fabulous ways that custom would not usually allow, hence those naughty horns. Perhaps like the "tableaux" staged in houses a few centuries ago that gave an excuse for more permissive clothing and behaviours than manners dictated. Some used them to parade themselves in frippery, others were aghast at it all and banned them. Anyway, this is drifting off topic. Cheers!
Possibly, but would that much care and craftsmanship have been put into a theatrical mask to be worn once?
Thanks for the knowledge. I like the idea of a six foot three giant, the most famous man in the world at the time, or one of them, going incognito in his own court. You can imagine the toadying going on as the lackeys pretend not to notice him, no doubt saying such things as, "That actor playing the Fool at last night's masque was amazing!" just within his royal earshot.
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this helmet.
This is now an isabel peralta thread.
@@stealthyy5679 based
Based
"Old man Henry VIII?"
I feel like I owe this helmet Money.
I feel like I’m supposed to be trading souls to it.
I'd definitely trust this helmet for legal advice.
i feel like i want him as my agent
Most recognisable helmet ever.
Everyone: 😐 nope
Thank you 😅
Looks like the helm of clavicous vile
What's the most recognizable helmet?
Probably on the far left, where everyone see's one thing, and he see's something else....
@@threefeetpete2010 who me?
Leeds Royal Armouries is an absolutely brilliant place. I’ve been twice and loved it both times.
Original troll face probably.
We're getting trolled with the statement that it's the most recognizable helmet.
Maybe it was some kind of inside joke at the time.
My thoughts exactly
@@RowdyBoy82 ikr. I'd say the crusader helmet is probably the most recognizable.
It’s a horned Jew people back then we’re super Christian and hated Jews
“Most recognized pieces of armor to dark souls players”
Number 4
"most recognisable helmet in the world"
The bucket helmet: bruh
Alot of people saying they've never even heard of it. I've known this helmet since I was a kid, and seen it a fair few times too.
I guess it depends where on the world you are and what you're taught. I remember it being taught in history class but only as a single line of "here is a funny looking helmet kids"
Theres a guy in Dark Souls with that armor set.
Yeah, it's the strange looking guy under the bridge in Undead Burg
Yes
Yup. Mind blown.
@@_basco-giallo_1648 oh you evil man
@@_basco-giallo_1648 he's in the Depths at first and then under the bridge at Firelink Shrine, i don't think he's in Undead Burg but i may have missed him.
Nah bro, the Sutton Hoo helmet is way more famous.
That's exactly what I thought - this is the first time I've seen this helmet.
Sutton Hoo helmet is only about 20% original
Thinking the same. I’ve never heard of this HVIII helmet 🤷🏽♂️
or gjermundbu helmet
@@stevenleslie8557 what's your point?
First thought “dark souls merchant guy” lol
Domhnall of Zena
Same, dude under the bridge.
Henry visits Max. Amonst the entertainments, Max has gathered some players to put on a comedy. Henry loves it, laughs a lot, comments on how funny the costume is. Max offers the helmet as a gift. One of many possible simple, reasonable explanations.
It's creeping me out but I can't look away.
cuz its aaa made up story. Im 60 and never seen it
That's what she said.
The level of detail they put into it is amazing. Looks almost lifelike.
Thats anti semetic!
Me: I need to get some sleep, lots to do tomorrow
RUclips: See the mysterious horned helmet of Henry VIII
Yes indeed
right there with ya
Lol
It's name is Lothric.
Wrong, thats' Domhnall of Zena's helmet!
Thank you!
Sounds like the Holy Roman Emperor had a sense of humor and dogged on Henry.
That was the most professional way to slip in "Cuckoldry" multiple times. Hats off to ya my boi.
Looks like something from a “steampunk“ comic book.
Yeah huge steam punk vibes
Came because it looks like a helmet from darksouls apparently this is where they got the idea
It's also in Skyrim as a Daedric artifact.
@@ShonnDaylee heeeey you're right
Did you clean up after you came?
@@ShonnDaylee Clavicus Vile's mask?
@@JKgyaru6969 Yep. That's the one.
the only theory that makes sense is that King Henry VIII was the original Scarecrow (Batman Begins) and would wear this while interrogating prisoners after having poisoned them with hallucinogenic substances
I always found it super creepy, which seems like what you would want on the battlefield.
Olha sim e não.
"Aye, siwmae. And good day to you. I'm Domhnall of Zena. I'm just, well, a peddler, of sorts. I adore trinkets and oddities, so I trade for them."
The helmet is definitely a piece of art. It's too bad there are so many unknown questions about it, but maybe only certain people were ever supposed to know the answers to them. It does give you a sense that some kind of taboo humor surrounded it.
This is definitely a sex mask
Thank God I'm not alone
Why?
Haha that was my first thought too! It is a very "horny" mask...
It's clearly self deprecating humor and the horns represent male sexuality. A kings life!
Watch the movie Eyes Wide Shut and you get the right idea.
If its from Maximillion, its likely an inside joke between friends.
Probably reminding Henry to wear Protection.. during debauchery.
I think that Henry did this as an answer to some remark or comment that was made, because although the horns were well made they were very rapidly attached as if in anger while if they were put on for some royal event they would have been put on with skill and care and so the alteration must have been done by order of the King as no one else would never have dared to do that to it
0:28 look at that hook of a nose!
I highly doubt it was meant to be worn. Just something to show off to your guests as a curiousity.
A nifty little "conversation piece", eh?
It was meant to be worn at social events. No idea if it was or not. Only the helmet survives of a full suit of armour.
@@metalmark9276 Can you imagine what the full suit must have looked like? I'm guessing he never really put it on. I was amazed looking at one of Henry's other suits and how HUGE it was. That was when they had to hoist him up on top of that poor horse.
@@Cissy2cute he was 23 when it was given to him. The suit I think he would have worn. Helmet.........
@@metalmark9276 As I noted elsewhere, there is a good chance the horns and spectacles were added at a later time. In the early part of his reign, Henry was looked upon as a Renaissance Prince; well educated in many areas who loved a good debate, especially on religion. His athleticism was admirable. Everyone had great hopes for him at that time. But it was not to be. Another historical "what if".
I can't imagine how this was initially shown to the king. One can only expect a love or hate reaction..
My theory is it was originally meant and used by Henry the 8th. After quite some time, it was sold to someone involved in the theater productions which then added the horns to possibly portray Henry the 8th as a snot nosed monster. It was Henry's actual armour after all. What better prop than the helm itself?
i clicked on this because this helmet bears a striking resemblance to the dark souls NPC Domnhall of Zena's headgear and most certainly was the inspiration for that character. interesting stuff!
I think medieval rulers maybe just had a better sense of humor than we suspect. It's a little like buying your friend a top hat: it's not so ridiculous as to imply insult yet ridiculous enough that you wouldn't expect them to wear it every day or ever...
"It's the most recognizable helmet in the world"......I'm 31 and I have never seen that creepy looking thing before in my life.
Now you did. You will recognize this helmet from any other with no problem. That's what 'recognizable' implies, after all.
I've known of it since I was about 10
@@bhannsk8 interesting how?
I've known of it since I was 5. Not my fault you ignore history.
There a difference between "recognizable" and recognized
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Recognize it? I've never seen it before!
Would you if you saw it again? Really easily? Then it is extremely recognisable, which is what he said.
Sounds like a personal problem.
I know it since I was a child. Maybe because I'm Austrian just like emperor Maximilian.
No one has, expect more weird shit from history unveiling this year.lol
Why has the theory not been put forward that something like this might inspire fear in one's enemies in the midst of battle? I don't know about you, but if I was lining up for battle and saw a horned figure leading the opposing army, I might have second thoughts about taking them on. Something for consideration.
This is exactly how borat describes Jews
Yup 🤣🤣🤣
Not just borat...
not 2021 borat he would never. lol.
Well... Lol
Yea I wasn't going to say anything but it looks incredibly Jewish. And they added horns.....
As if Henry Vlll wasn't already scary enough.
Maybe he put this mask on and ventured for a night out of terror at the Tower of London...
@Pete Lester really I think this helmet proclaims devil. I think he wasnt catholic. A fake one.
@@mateokarlvonpavlovic8295 The only Christianity was Catholicism until the deformers of the 1500s, including Horny Henry VIII who defended the Faith until he decided his lust was more important than the pope's blessing.
@@tgbluewolf yes well im a catholic to but i dont like many popes cardinals and bishops and priests. not all of them were good. its shame what did they do to catholic church. someone must clean evil from good catholic church. the church is to clean for these evil bastards. do you agree with me
@@tgbluewolf And what of orthodoxy? There was a schism in 1050 you know.
is it possible they have the date of the gifting wrong? Would make sense if the HRE sent this to Henry 8 after he left the Catholic church, to mock him.
Pretty much, yeah. It wouldn’t make sense to send someone something as ugly as this. Especially a royal family member.
The guy who made it died in 1517. Sorry.
But would he have kept something that he knew was mocking him?
@@Automedon2 because Fuck You, that sounds like a big Henry VIII move.
king henry was already freaky without trying to wearing this mask.
"Aye, siwmae"
I recognize it, if only because it's a helmet you can wear in the game Chivalry 2. (There's a good deal of customization in that game in terms of armor and weapons)
There was a helmet just like this in my family owned by my grandfather and given to my uncle. It is gone now but was made of bronze looking metal.and had genuine horns attached.
it looks like the one of the dark souls helmet pieces
Reflects the original owner quite well honestly.
So a jew?
Jester's hats were originally devised to imitate horns and the imagery was often interchanged in a lot of historical art.
And yet there's no reference ifaik in Armin's Nest of Ninnies, covering the more significant fools of the second half of the 16th Century.
I love that chivalry included it as wearable armor lol
Domhnall!?
Aye, siwmae! Oh how I missed you old Friend.
the 'fool' explanation sits best with me, the way the horns are attached just doesn't match the rest of the helmet.
My thoughts also, I suspect the horns were retrofitted, the fixing is just too clumsy and it doesn’t fit with the face.
Has a Spring Heeled Jack kind of visage.
Or rather... "one of the top 5 most recognizable helmets to Dark Souls players"
What a job title.
"So what do you do"
"I'm the keeper of edged weapons and armor at the Royal Armory."
Had the pleasure of seeing this up close. Great piece.
Straight out of an anime...so insane!! As an art historian this is so fascinating to me!!
*"It's the most recognizable helmet".*
First time seeing it.
It was meant as a joke to be seen and not to be worn as Henry and maximillian were friendly. The rams horns represented Henry's love life. The spectacles represented his astigmatism, and the teeth represented Henry's notorious sense of humour.
Source?
And the nose?
Aye shwmae! And good day to you. I'm Domhnall of Zena. I'm just, well, a peddler of sorts. I adore trinkets and oddities, so I trade for them.
Built as an meme, lives on as an legend.
“Most recognisable helmet”
*Laughs in Sauron*
There a difference between "recognizable" and recognized
Laughs in Gimli
*Aurous 😂
Given how barbaric King Henry the VIII was, this was a very brave gift.
Lmao, the HRE would wipe the floor with Henry VIII if they had to.
I don’t think you know very much about Henry VIII
I don't think the last knight of Europe himself had to fear some STD-riddled Albion.
Mr Lynch, Nicholas Cage would make an amazing Henry VIII if you're considering. Do the soundtrack with Barry Adamson please.
Yes, the nose in particular evokes a natural revulsion.
Oy vey
lmao
oy gevalt!
The fool that originally wore that was probably some spy master assassin shit you only see in movies. Probably an amazing life story connected to that thing
I bet it was even more stunning with the guilding and colored felt.
Here's my new covid mask so I'll just scare away all the Karens
I like you! Bob
Yes, maybe the king wore it during one of those plagues or other, way back when. 😁
Trouble is, many Karen's look this bad anyway!
All the karens that constantly flock around you? What are you doing?
if you're wearing a covid mask that makes you one of the karens
Oh hey, that's the helmet from the cover of Thanatopsis' self-titled album.
You're right! I forgot that's where I first saw this helmet
“The most recognizable helmet in the world?”
Me (A Tudors fan and armchair historian): Must be a Mandela effect... or a massive Troll.
You need to also take into account the political and military strengths of givers and receivers. And on what occasion it was gifted. Between powerful men, unlikely to come in direct conflict, it's quite possible that one would criticize the other through such a gift.
The value and artistry would demand Henry kept it. It's destruction would have signaled to those around Henry that it bothered him. So he would have kept it and even displayed it while gritting his teeth.
So this is where the merchant on the bridge in DS1 had his helmet design from! So cool!
"it's the most recognizable helmet in the world"
*Me who has no idea what the hell I'm looking at*
"Why the hell does he want this crap for?" -- Konrad Seusenhofer
"Most recognizable helmet in the world"
I have literally never seen it before.
The helmet and armour depicts a Venetian.
Venice had a history of financing England and had built up a strong relationship with the Tudors and various English monarchs prior.
This was in order to maintain French attention to the north, rather than military expansion south into Italy ( proxy war).
The armour is sent as a half joke/ half threat as if to say do you think these people can protect you.
This is at a time when tensions are rising throughout Europe and England is seen as a potential problem for the Holy Roman empire.
Eventually this would lead to the Spanish- English war, when the armarda attempted to invade Elizabethan England.
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I hear if you bring it a boss souls , you can get unique weapons & armor ..
:P
Aye, siwmae.
He's got horns, a big nose, and spectacles. Sure... it's a "fool" mask.
Is it possible this armor was gifted containing the body of a high status mutual enemy?
Indeed, makes sense but it would have been documented but it's a very good idea
It was gifted to Henry for him to wear. Doubt they would have presented it to him with a corpse inside.
Fantastic idea though😎
@@metalmark9276 I dont think Henry wore it, like they said in the videos the sizes just for fit human anatomy, I think the fools idea could be very logical as Henry became very unpopular when he broke from Rome and by some ther nobles of how he treated Catherine
@@Lulu-ut9pv the suit was gifted to Henry before the reformation.
Have visitied the Armouries many a time and this Helmet is epic.
You want to see my helmet??
@@jrhunter6669 Only if it's very old and very decorative.
"the most recognizable helmet in the world." crazy because i only knew this from chivalry 2