I fell in love with an 8mm German Mauser in 1967...7.92mmx57mm to be exact. My brother unboxed one new in the cosmoline, never issued for 29.95 plus tax shipped to the front door of our farm house...laminated stock, in new condition unissued. It was as pretty as any young woman you ever seen...and that's a fact.
Dave, son beating you just means you taught him well. Beautiful rifle. Thank you for sharing. BTW, I had questioned you before about shooting groups with the Magnoetospeed on the rifle. I took your advice and did that to save components. I shot my best group ever today using your method. 308 165 Accubond handloads with a .2 MOA group. I am ready for a disabled veteran elk hunt in WY this fall, Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
Dave one thing to remember is to clean the rifle with Hot Soapy water with a splash of Ammonia the Ammo is Corrosive. There are some manufacturers that make 8MM Ammo PPU, Wolf Gold and S&B.
Yes, we thoroughly cleaned the rifle before the shoot and Matt will finish the cleaning after he gets home. He did find some Remington Core-Lokt 180grain factory @ $40.00
All of the 8mm mauser ammo that I have come accross is boxer primed. Therefore, not corrosive. The secret is to know what you are shooting and not guess the actual caliber, etc.....
I know this thread is getting a little old, but I couldn't help but chime in. I have a sporterized BRNO 8x57 and love it. I handload as well which is essential with this cartridge, in my opinion. It will do anything my 30-06 will do from a hunting perspective but a whole lot more to talk about. Mine still has the German markings stamped into the rifle after they confiscated it in Czechoslovakia and sent it to their armory before issuing to a soldier in WWII. It is very accurate and as classic looking as you can expect. It's nice to see others still running their Mausers after all these years.
I reload 8mm Mauser, but if I want full power hunting ammo, I go with Sellier & Bellot 8X57JS. It's loaded to higher European pressures (CIP) than US ammo. The Sellier & Bellot 8MM Mauser ammo is loaded to SAAMI pressure and is pretty mild.
My suggestion if you want to hunt with this gun is to go online and order some sellier and bellot 196gr spce, and that rifle will be good even for elk. Energy will be almost identical to a 30-06 with a good 180gr load at the muzzle except the extra 16gr of bullet weight will help you carry energy!!! Pretty good elk round in that gun out to 400 yards easy if not a bit further depending onhow accurate your rifle is with it. It's about 30 a box, but it's exactly the performance you're gonna want out of a hunting round!!!
Happy Saturday, Dave and Matt. The only rifle I had with a scope for decades was a fixed 4x on a 22lr. I refused to desecrate my pre-64 Winchester 30-30 by putting a scope on it. I was a dead-eye with those buckhorn sights on a 100 yard range.
Military surplus ammo frequently has very hard primers. Had to hit many of them twice to get them to go off. A new Wolf firing pin spring took care of that.
The Hodgdon website lists 54 grains of H-4350 with a 200 grain bullet. The stated pressure is 45000 CUP. In two of my rifles, this load has a muzzle velocity between 2500 and 2560 fps with the 200 grain Accubond
next time you have a misfire, leave the bolt closed. take an 8x57 cartridge and place the case rim into the groove that's been machined into the cocking piece and pull the cocking piece back. this way you won't have to disengage the bolt from locked position. hth and great shooting, i cant get groups like that when i use that 196-grain yugo mg hardball😇👍🇺🇸
Fantastic calibre, it is for all practical reasons the same as a 30-06. I also have an ex-military “Mauser” with that same step down barrel in 308 Win. My rifle easily shoots sub moa with a Timney trigger.
I just got a strange one must have been imported as barreled action,zastava,bad stock never sighted in...its a commercialized military receiver, has thumb cut and clip guide but rear is made like a commercial and drilled and tapped. Has an adjustable trigger...its like new 35 years old....i totally fell in love now that i worked it out...8mm is really really good for open sight east coast deer gun recoil and muzzle blast is very manageable. I fell in love with it too
Nosler makes 8x57 brass as well as some excellent hunting bullets, including all Copper E-tip 180 gr. for hunting. I have also made 8x57 brass from 30-06 brass with good results.
W0W I Love♥that 0l' Mauser♥It reminds me of an Military Rifle I Customized in the 1960's and one in the 1970's also. Another GREAT Video Mr. Strohmeyer. I LIKE YOUR STYLE
There were a great deal of old military surplus Mauser model 98 and eastern block model 42 etc. barreled actions sold through Herters catalogue and others in the 60's and 70's. Many gunsmiths customized these rifles with custom stocks and sold them to the public. Thanks for watching.
All commercial ammo is loaded down to prevent an accident with the millions of old worn out mauers floating around. I have a sporterized 8mm I reload ammo for, it will do everything the 3006 will do and maybe a bit better than the 06 with heavy bullets.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 The 8mm is the father case for the 9.3 Mauser with a lengthen neck. The 9.3 is very popular in Africa and Alaska for dangerous game. It was very popular because it fit in standard length Mauser actions. The 9.3 is an old cartridge but still popular with dangerous game hunters.
@@kevinthorrington2131 Thanks for that information here. In the USA and until lately, outside of the 7mm Rem. Mag. Any cartridge with a Millimeter name has failed to gain hunter support and continued popularity. All that has changed with the introduction of the 6.5 mm cartridges.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I built three 6.5x55 rifles on 98 actions. One for my daughter, one for the wife, and one for me. I'm 60 years old, heavy recoil rifles make my arthritic shoulder hurt. Had a motorcycle accident when I was young, heavy recoil hurts me.
LOL as a youngster fired many a round from 1903 SPFD in 30-06 and 8mm Kar98's with steel but plates. I recall the 8mm kicked as hard as the 06, wished it was in the 308 recoil class.
I dont have a 98 mauser, im prices out of them now, but i have a gew1888 commission rifle reworked by the turks in 8mm mauser amd use it for hunting and ranch work daily, they say not to use hot surplus ammo but i doo and havent had any problems, 8mm mauser is definitely the most versatile round i use,
You appear to be unable to adjust the scope to change impact. Light pin strikes are fixed after removing the age weakened spring and replaced with a Wolf 24 pound spring. Google weaver scope to learn how to adjust the crosshairs.
Nosler certainly has brass for the 8mm. Just bought some. PPU is suspect, at best. My 8 is a sporterized with twin triggers and a very fine shooting rifle. Best action ever built bar none.
Great rifle but have say wrong information about it being like the 308 the case is that of the 30-06 not the 308 the 308 is a short action rifle and the 30-06 and the 8x57 are both standard action rifles but other then that great gun and great shooting
Clarification: From the Hornady manual a .308 Win. case, is 2.015". 8x57mm case, is 2.244". 30-06 case is 2.494". Therefore the 8mm case length is closer to the .308 Win case length.. Action length was never referenced in this video. Our comparison here and reference to the .308 Win. in this video had more to do with a felt recoil comparison. Thanks for watching and commenting here.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 not yet. I have a few different boxes of bullets to try. Hoping for one that will give minute of German performance. Haha, kidding! Thanks, Dave!
Great shooting and very good video! In the hands of proper marksman this rifle is still a very capable tool. By the way, I'm sure you're aware that your familys name is also German. Keep up the good work and greetings from Germany!
Very interresting. With good reliad cartridge it should improve a lot the grouping. I have myself a sporterized 7.92 Mauser made rifle dated 1917 . It has a Lyman aperture sighr.. I found no 7.92 ammo in m'y locality therefore i bought privi partisan case 160 ttsx bullet and loaded ammo with w748 powder.
Around 1980, I picked up an 1915 7.92 Mauser made in Danzig, imported and sporterized by Interarms in a nice walnut Monte Carlo style stock. From day one, I had planned in mounting a scope on it, but it shot so well and naturally with the original ramped rear sight, I never mounted one. I live in the Hudson Valley/ Catskill Mountains of NY. Most of my whitetail hunting has been in forests, and the iron sites seem perfect for a "brush gun" , acquiring the target easily. A Peep Sight sounds tempting though! It should work just fine in another 100 years form great great grand kids and beyond!
Did you see the misfires? Did you see the Hangfire? It is the very old bulk Ammo. The rifle is very accurate with American factory Ammo and my handloads. Thanks for watching.
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I fell in love with an 8mm German Mauser in 1967...7.92mmx57mm to be exact. My brother unboxed one new in the cosmoline, never issued for 29.95 plus tax shipped to the front door of our farm house...laminated stock, in new condition unissued. It was as pretty as any young woman you ever seen...and that's a fact.
Glad you enjoy your rifles.
Lee has 8MM dies, PPU and Starline have brass, Hornady has 8MM bullets. I've reloaded my K98 for years. Great rifles.
Thanks for that information and for watching.
Dave, son beating you just means you taught him well. Beautiful rifle. Thank you for sharing.
BTW, I had questioned you before about shooting groups with the Magnoetospeed on the rifle. I took your advice and did that to save components. I shot my best group ever today using your method. 308 165 Accubond handloads with a .2 MOA group. I am ready for a disabled veteran elk hunt in WY this fall, Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
My son Matt pretty much developed his own style. 1/4 inch groups on a target is fabulous indeed.
Dad was doing his best raising a family. Luckily we moved to the country where there are lots of ground squirrels, and 22lr was cheap.
Dave one thing to remember is to clean the rifle with Hot Soapy water with a splash of Ammonia the Ammo is Corrosive. There are some manufacturers that make 8MM Ammo PPU, Wolf Gold and S&B.
Yes, we thoroughly cleaned the rifle before the shoot and Matt will finish the cleaning after he gets home. He did find some Remington Core-Lokt 180grain factory @ $40.00
..the best moose cal.ever 8×57js!!❤
Greetings from Sweden 🍺
All of the 8mm mauser ammo that I have come accross is boxer primed.
Therefore, not corrosive.
The secret is to know what you are shooting and not guess the actual caliber, etc.....
I know this thread is getting a little old, but I couldn't help but chime in. I have a sporterized BRNO 8x57 and love it. I handload as well which is essential with this cartridge, in my opinion. It will do anything my 30-06 will do from a hunting perspective but a whole lot more to talk about. Mine still has the German markings stamped into the rifle after they confiscated it in Czechoslovakia and sent it to their armory before issuing to a soldier in WWII. It is very accurate and as classic looking as you can expect. It's nice to see others still running their Mausers after all these years.
I reload 8mm Mauser, but if I want full power hunting ammo, I go with Sellier & Bellot 8X57JS. It's loaded to higher European pressures (CIP) than US ammo. The Sellier & Bellot 8MM Mauser ammo is loaded to SAAMI pressure and is pretty mild.
Thanks for the information.
If it’s pretty mild, then how is it full power 🙃
Great shooting guys! All things considered, that rifle is a shooter!
Thanks for your comment Eric. Ammo availability is a challenge but my son Matt definitely has a mid range deer slayer.
My suggestion if you want to hunt with this gun is to go online and order some sellier and bellot 196gr spce, and that rifle will be good even for elk. Energy will be almost identical to a 30-06 with a good 180gr load at the muzzle except the extra 16gr of bullet weight will help you carry energy!!! Pretty good elk round in that gun out to 400 yards easy if not a bit further depending onhow accurate your rifle is with it. It's about 30 a box, but it's exactly the performance you're gonna want out of a hunting round!!!
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
From my Husqvarna 1640, the 196 grain Sellier & Bellot SPCE load produces a muzzle velocity of around 2600 fps. This is definitely a full power load.
Happy Saturday, Dave and Matt. The only rifle I had with a scope for decades was a fixed 4x on a 22lr. I refused to desecrate my pre-64 Winchester 30-30 by putting a scope on it. I was a dead-eye with those buckhorn sights on a 100 yard range.
Thanks for sharing your experiences here. Thanks for watching.
Military surplus ammo frequently has very hard primers. Had to hit many of them twice to get them to go off. A new Wolf firing pin spring took care of that.
Thanks for your input. After inspecting the mis fires the primer was set in very far below flush of the case head.
Dave. Good video. Very nice gun and great shooting with a low power scope. Thanks for sharing and take care.
Thanks Bobcat.
The Hodgdon website lists 54 grains of H-4350 with a 200 grain bullet. The stated pressure is 45000 CUP. In two of my rifles, this load has a muzzle velocity between 2500 and 2560 fps with the 200 grain Accubond
next time you have a misfire, leave the bolt closed. take an 8x57 cartridge and place the case rim into the groove that's been machined into the cocking piece and pull the cocking piece back. this way you won't have to disengage the bolt from locked position. hth and great shooting, i cant get groups like that when i use that 196-grain yugo mg hardball😇👍🇺🇸
Thanks for the tip.
You're Welcome😁i've had good accuracy with 180-grain nosler ballistic tips and H4895 start loads👍
I have a Yugo 48a in an Archangel stock. Shoots Berger 160 grain hand loads to an inch at 100 yards. Not bad for a 60+ year old rifle.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
OOH SUPER NICE!!
Yes Most likely .323. I have a few and Live them!
Yeah, I figured if anybody owned a 8mm Mauser and made bullets for it, it would be Brian at CW.
Sweet shooting rifle
Shooting will be better with handloads. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic calibre, it is for all practical reasons the same as a 30-06. I also have an ex-military “Mauser” with that same step down barrel in 308 Win. My rifle easily shoots sub moa with a Timney trigger.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
I just got a strange one must have been imported as barreled action,zastava,bad stock never sighted in...its a commercialized military receiver, has thumb cut and clip guide but rear is made like a commercial and drilled and tapped. Has an adjustable trigger...its like new 35 years old....i totally fell in love now that i worked it out...8mm is really really good for open sight east coast deer gun recoil and muzzle blast is very manageable. I fell in love with it too
Glad your set up works well for you. Thanks for watching.
Nosler makes 8x57 brass as well as some excellent hunting bullets, including all Copper E-tip 180 gr. for hunting. I have also made 8x57 brass from 30-06 brass with good results.
W0W I Love♥that 0l' Mauser♥It reminds me of an Military Rifle I Customized in the 1960's and one in the 1970's also. Another GREAT Video Mr. Strohmeyer. I LIKE YOUR STYLE
There were a great deal of old military surplus Mauser model 98 and eastern block model 42 etc. barreled actions sold through Herters catalogue and others in the 60's and 70's. Many gunsmiths customized these rifles with custom stocks and sold them to the public. Thanks for watching.
It would appear that the ammo is the weak link. That rifle shoots great.
Yes the ammo is suspect for sure. Thanks for watching.
Good shooting!!! Maybe you can find ppu or seller and bellot ammo online. Good luck and keep the vids coming!!
Matt found some factory180 grain Remington core-lokt. But if he buys the dies and finds cases, we'll work up some 150gn for deer hunting.
You can but PPU, ammo, reload the new cases, you can get old 30/06 cases and form to 7.92x57
Hi Guys
I own and hunt with my 8mm
I load 200grain Sierra HPBT and it shoots 15mm groups all day
Thanks for your comment here.
All commercial ammo is loaded down to prevent an accident with the millions of old worn out mauers floating around. I have a sporterized 8mm I reload ammo for, it will do everything the 3006 will do and maybe a bit better than the 06 with heavy bullets.
It is an interesting cartridge. Thanks for watching.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 The 8mm is the father case for the 9.3 Mauser with a lengthen neck. The 9.3 is very popular in Africa and Alaska for dangerous game. It was very popular because it fit in standard length Mauser actions. The 9.3 is an old cartridge but still popular with dangerous game hunters.
@@kevinthorrington2131 Thanks for that information here. In the USA and until lately, outside of the 7mm Rem. Mag. Any cartridge with a Millimeter name has failed to gain hunter support and continued popularity. All that has changed with the introduction of the 6.5 mm cartridges.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I built three 6.5x55 rifles on 98 actions. One for my daughter, one for the wife, and one for me. I'm 60 years old, heavy recoil rifles make my arthritic shoulder hurt. Had a motorcycle accident when I was young, heavy recoil hurts me.
LOL as a youngster fired many a round from 1903 SPFD in 30-06 and 8mm Kar98's with steel but plates. I recall the 8mm kicked as hard as the 06, wished it was in the 308 recoil class.
I dont have a 98 mauser, im prices out of them now, but i have a gew1888 commission rifle reworked by the turks in 8mm mauser amd use it for hunting and ranch work daily, they say not to use hot surplus ammo but i doo and havent had any problems, 8mm mauser is definitely the most versatile round i use,
Thanks for watching and for your comments here.
Very cool to see !!
Thanks for watching.
You appear to be unable to adjust the scope to change impact. Light pin strikes are fixed after removing the age weakened spring and replaced with a Wolf 24 pound spring. Google weaver scope to learn how to adjust the crosshairs.
Awsome.
Thanks for watching.
Nosler certainly has brass for the 8mm. Just bought some. PPU is suspect, at best. My 8 is a sporterized with twin triggers and a very fine shooting rifle. Best action ever built bar none.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
Great rifle but have say wrong information about it being like the 308 the case is that of the 30-06 not the 308 the 308 is a short action rifle and the 30-06 and the 8x57 are both standard action rifles but other then that great gun and great shooting
Clarification: From the Hornady manual a .308 Win. case, is 2.015". 8x57mm case, is 2.244". 30-06 case is 2.494". Therefore the 8mm case length is closer to the .308 Win case length.. Action length was never referenced in this video. Our comparison here and reference to the .308 Win. in this video had more to do with a felt recoil comparison. Thanks for watching and commenting here.
Matts grouping was good ffirst two rounds. The config was shy to the bottom left, but the rifles accurate.
Dubious age? You must be talking about my mother-in-law. I picked up an original k98 at an auction about a year ago. I enjoy shooting it.
Did you work up a load for it? 150grain to 180grain, seems appropriate for a 200lb + muley.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 not yet. I have a few different boxes of bullets to try. Hoping for one that will give minute of German performance. Haha, kidding! Thanks, Dave!
Great shooting and very good video! In the hands of proper marksman this rifle is still a very capable tool. By the way, I'm sure you're aware that your familys name is also German.
Keep up the good work and greetings from Germany!
Yes, my ancestors came from the Bavarian region of Germany.
With some Speer Hot Core 180 grain soft points and IMR 4895 you could hand load some great hunting anmo. 👍
Thanks Rick.
Very interresting. With good reliad cartridge it should improve a lot the grouping.
I have myself a sporterized 7.92 Mauser made rifle dated 1917 .
It has a Lyman aperture sighr..
I found no 7.92 ammo in m'y locality therefore i bought privi partisan case 160 ttsx bullet and loaded ammo with w748 powder.
Thanks for your comment here.
Around 1980, I picked up an 1915 7.92 Mauser made in Danzig, imported and sporterized by Interarms in a nice walnut Monte Carlo style stock. From day one, I had planned in mounting a scope on it, but it shot so well and naturally with the original ramped rear sight, I never mounted one. I live in the Hudson Valley/ Catskill Mountains of NY. Most of my whitetail hunting has been in forests, and the iron sites seem perfect for a "brush gun" , acquiring the target easily. A Peep Sight sounds tempting though! It should work just fine in another 100 years form great great grand kids and beyond!
some good glass and even better ammo, and that rifle is a shooter. Did it prove out that way for your s-i-l ?
Yes, handloading for it worked. ruclips.net/video/87E7Edrpi5k/видео.html&ab_channel=DaveStrohmeyer-SaddleUpShootin%27
At 50 yards those are not very tight groups. Is it the rifle or the shooter or the ammo. Hard to tell.
Did you see the misfires? Did you see the Hangfire? It is the very old bulk Ammo. The rifle is very accurate with American factory Ammo and my handloads. Thanks for watching.
Brown box 8mm ammo is corrosive. Clean the rifle really well.
Yes, Thank You.
Hi
A better rifle scope and use hand-loaded ammo, such as Iranian bullets in Old War Ammo or Sierra
Nice
Thanks
Nice? OUTSTANDING❤
I use norma oryx ammo. Forget gun stores, order online
Handloads are working very well. See my latest video. Thanks for watching
Again wrong information you can get the stuff to reload and you can find ammo online for that's what I do very common ammo over sea
Berdan Primer cases are not the same as the more common Boxer primer cases that I use to reload.
Better 8mm ammo can be found online easily
We will rely on handloads with lighter grain 8mm hunting bullets. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
sdammo has mauser by the boatload
Hello from France please enjoy without scope. It's my rifle i'm not the shooter the target AT 1000 is one meter by one meter.💪
It’s a pretty hard kick lol harder then 308
Yes, especially when hand loaded to todays pressures.
A few clicks to the right.
Agree. Matt is going to replace the scope anyway.
The rifle is worth something. The ammo is crap.
Agree.
No such thing as 8x57 . Either 8x57i or 8x57is. Don't buy American ammo...buy European.
Nice