I agree with you 100%. I never understood the argument that building grip strength has no carryover. Almost any strength you gain in your upper body will carry over to some degree once you learn to utilize it. Strength is never a weakness, as Mark Bell says. Technical training should be done on the table regardless of how you build up your strength.
I recently got a Metolius hangboard for rock climbing and have been doing 10-15 second fingertip hangs and it has helped a bunch with grip training and I can feel the carryover on the table. Great video Ivan
As someone who's only armwrestled for almost 20 years off and on and never trained grip, excellent video. I agree with everything you said. I think the strength itself DOES carryover, once you can coordinate it over to the table. I think the mobility in the wrist helps to stay iniury free also.
Thank you Ivan for this video, so much misinformation on training grippers and Armwrestling. Up until today was one of those people who tried using lighter grippers with a cupped wrist because I saw professional Armwrestlers doing it, but now I will just train the grippers the correct way knowing the strength built will be there regardless, and I will make sure to wait until 2 - 3 days later before training wrist flexion with Fatgripz. I should have known after seeing that Khaled Jashell guy from Larry Wheels channel, he is really good at the grippers like you and it is clear when he grabs people on the Armwrestling table that it is carrying over tremendously.
Grip Legend David Horne was 10+ x British Champion in Armwrestling. He trains Steel bending/snapping and natural Stone Lifting at highest level also. Russian Nikita Yurkovets has repped a #3.5/4 and is quite good at armwrestling too.
Oh m’y god you are my Hero im a arm wrestler but damn I love gripper and I want to be good at it ! Love your series and you talk about variation to how to set up ! I have small hand for my size and always struggle . I’ll try for sure like you do! Time to close the 3 now!!
How far can someone go using ONLY grippers? Fantastic content. Only found your channel today and i'm glad I did. I appreciate your no nonsense straight forward approach. Thanks!
Not very far, tbh. I'd just look at it as a nice supplement to whatever else you're doing. But it's definitely not useless like some would have people believe, especially not if you're just getting into more arm wrestling specific training and you're getting a lot of newbie gains. Of course there's some variables as always, but that's at least my experience over the last year or so.
all the finger flexors are powerful wrist flexors, training finger flexion will necessarily have carryover into cupping and vice versa. Now how MUCH carryover and how time effective it is might make it not worth it to some.
It's always annoyed me so much whenever people like Coach Ray and others completely disregard grippers, and almost outright laugh at anyone even daring to suggest that there's something to be gained by using them. Just because they're in a place physically where they'd not gain as much compared to people just starting out. Paul Linn too, and you can tell that he's never had any real experience with them from the way he talked about it ("you train your wrist to be open and always exposed when using grippers" etc.). You can hit your forearm plenty too, and even feel it in your triceps if your arm is completely straight and you turn it slightly.
Whats the best minimalist training for grip? I don’t have enough time for training rn so I have been doing gripper at the moment and I woulike to add the rolling thunder. In the gym I do everything without straps
Hi Ivan. Do you have worse and better days when you practice grip. I run CC once a week but sometimes it's very tough and no pressure against what I can have at times. I feel completely powerless sometimes and sometimes I have a very good pressure and can train hard and really push myself. I don't understand why it happens, so I've rested for a whole week. inland I can handle CC 2 but sometimes T is a pain as I usually warm up and the grip doesn't want to respond at all!
Nice and honestly, pretty unic content! I've a question, what do u think about the differents approach for gripper (handle down or up), keep the gripper closed for many seconds and things like that for progress in strength? Ur opinion about Imtug gripper? And can we go far in gripping with only grippers? And last, little advice, try to put a little bit of fine oil on the springs point of contact for stop squeaking 🤌🏻
Glad you’re talking about armwrestling and grip. Enjoying the series so far
I agree with you 100%. I never understood the argument that building grip strength has no carryover. Almost any strength you gain in your upper body will carry over to some degree once you learn to utilize it. Strength is never a weakness, as Mark Bell says.
Technical training should be done on the table regardless of how you build up your strength.
I recently got a Metolius hangboard for rock climbing and have been doing 10-15 second fingertip hangs and it has helped a bunch with grip training and I can feel the carryover on the table. Great video Ivan
As someone who's only armwrestled for almost 20 years off and on and never trained grip, excellent video. I agree with everything you said. I think the strength itself DOES carryover, once you can coordinate it over to the table. I think the mobility in the wrist helps to stay iniury free also.
Thank you Ivan for this video, so much misinformation on training grippers and Armwrestling. Up until today was one of those people who tried using lighter grippers with a cupped wrist because I saw professional Armwrestlers doing it, but now I will just train the grippers the correct way knowing the strength built will be there regardless, and I will make sure to wait until 2 - 3 days later before training wrist flexion with Fatgripz. I should have known after seeing that Khaled Jashell guy from Larry Wheels channel, he is really good at the grippers like you and it is clear when he grabs people on the Armwrestling table that it is carrying over tremendously.
Grip Legend David Horne was 10+ x British Champion in Armwrestling. He trains Steel bending/snapping and natural Stone Lifting at highest level also.
Russian Nikita Yurkovets has repped a #3.5/4 and is quite good at armwrestling too.
Oh m’y god you are my Hero im a arm wrestler but damn I love gripper and I want to be good at it ! Love your series and you talk about variation to how to set up ! I have small hand for my size and always struggle . I’ll try for sure like you do! Time to close the 3 now!!
How far can someone go using ONLY grippers? Fantastic content. Only found your channel today and i'm glad I did. I appreciate your no nonsense straight forward approach. Thanks!
Not very far, tbh. I'd just look at it as a nice supplement to whatever else you're doing. But it's definitely not useless like some would have people believe, especially not if you're just getting into more arm wrestling specific training and you're getting a lot of newbie gains. Of course there's some variables as always, but that's at least my experience over the last year or so.
Good question for future video
I mean not in arm wrestling but in just grippers strength… Can someone who only trains grippers work their way up to closing a 3.5 or 4?
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That’s a great question. I’ll be looking for a response.
Yep I think that can be a very interesting subject
Thanks for advises, I love your videos!!
all the finger flexors are powerful wrist flexors, training finger flexion will necessarily have carryover into cupping and vice versa. Now how MUCH carryover and how time effective it is might make it not worth it to some.
Nice
very cool content
It's always annoyed me so much whenever people like Coach Ray and others completely disregard grippers, and almost outright laugh at anyone even daring to suggest that there's something to be gained by using them. Just because they're in a place physically where they'd not gain as much compared to people just starting out. Paul Linn too, and you can tell that he's never had any real experience with them from the way he talked about it ("you train your wrist to be open and always exposed when using grippers" etc.). You can hit your forearm plenty too, and even feel it in your triceps if your arm is completely straight and you turn it slightly.
Rvj and John used grippers. Travis will squeeze a towel just like a gripper.
devon larratt literally had exercises to solely focus on thumb lol
@@kinggriffith386 John didn't use grippers, just like Ivan said in the video
@@EmilBBechGrip john used the number 2 for reps and a bagel or smiley ball for his thumb in his car or work .
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Ivan, if you squeeze someone's wrist, will they go down on their knees 😊
empty handed, no pun intended
Whats the best minimalist training for grip? I don’t have enough time for training rn so I have been doing gripper at the moment and I woulike to add the rolling thunder.
In the gym I do everything without straps
Hi Ivan. Do you have worse and better days when you practice grip. I run CC once a week but sometimes it's very tough and no pressure against what I can have at times. I feel completely powerless sometimes and sometimes I have a very good pressure and can train hard and really push myself. I don't understand why it happens, so I've rested for a whole week. inland I can handle CC 2 but sometimes T is a pain as I usually warm up and the grip doesn't want to respond at all!
What about extensors Standing straight bar reverse wrist curls? What do you do to hit that area? Thank you!
ay bro whats your routine for hand grip
What's your grip strength?
what are you repping on bench out of curiousity?
Can do 245lbs/111kg x 5 paused
how are u finding armwrestling? are u enjoying training and pulling?
It’s a fun sport, I enjoy pulling however I try to keep it to a minimum cuz of my grip training being priority atm
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You don't have a back day ?🤔🤔🤔
Forgot to mention back, yeah either on fridays or mondays
Hi Ivan, did you ever tried CoC no. 4.5? I've seen one man on yt closing it and i think you need a next goal after you crushed 4 with ease.
What the fuck is a 4.5? Ironmind has released no such gripper to my knowledge.
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How big is your fist ivan 11 inches and half like larry wheels?
Ye, 11.7 most recent but around that yeah
@@IvanCuk19 did gripper work made it bigger ?
@@kinggriffith386 yeah any hand work in general just grew it
@@IvanCuk19 serious big hand what is mesure the wrist ivan
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You should get a device with better audio because I hear and understand everything loud and clear
great to see you making videos like this brother! really enjoy the long form discussion videos. 🫡
Nice and honestly, pretty unic content!
I've a question, what do u think about the differents approach for gripper (handle down or up), keep the gripper closed for many seconds and things like that for progress in strength?
Ur opinion about Imtug gripper?
And can we go far in gripping with only grippers?
And last, little advice, try to put a little bit of fine oil on the springs point of contact for stop squeaking 🤌🏻