Talking A380NEO & A221 With Airbus's Head of Marketing
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
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Chapters:
Intro - 0:00
A220-500 - 1:38
A220 Commonality - 2:47
New A220 Cabin - 4:26
A320 Availability - 6:41
XLR Update - 8:25
A350 10 Abreast - 10:09
A330 9 Abreast - 12:22
A380NEO - 14:36
Closing Thoughts - 16:26
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Airbus has got their stuff together looking forward what they come up with in the future
“They enjoy working on the 350 more than the competition product.” A polite yet still jab way to put it. Great interview!
Do you think he was referring to 787 or 777? I'm guessing he's referring to the older 777's, but that statement could be interpreted either way.
@@TonyM132 speaking of a a350 he was probably talking about the old and loud triple's. which you have to take into account the age of most triple's
@@TonyM132 He's considering the B777X because it's been delayed multiple times.
@@Clery75019 No, he definitely wasn't referring to 777X in that comment. He was talking about how much flight attendants he has talked to like working on the A350 versus "competition product". Obviously no flight attendants have ever worked on 777X, since there are none in service yet.
@@TonyM132as a mechanic, they really went out of their way to make out jobs easier on their new products. Zeus bolt everywhere they can, led lights in dark spaces ( electronics and other technical nooks)
Airbus: "safety is our main concern..."
Boeing: "Aaaaarghhh.... that's a low blow...."
Shipwreck exploring submarine: hold my beer
Well done on these interviews Coby! Such great quality questions with both Boeing and Airbus Executives. You are asking the questions #Avgeeks want to know from them (not the generic "Business News" questions) You should look at doing more of these... Well done again from South Africa 🇿🇦
Confident intelligent and very knowledgeable marketing executive.
Imagine they make an A380neo with just 2 engines lol
Idk if there are engines big enough to power a380 with just two... But what if... A380neo is a trijet with three GE9x
@@mp2431you’ve got a boring mind😘
@@mp2431boring brain
no one would buy it.. the plane is too big, to heavy and too expensive to maintain and operate.. fuel cost is the least of their concern
@@dxkaiyuan4177either that or the Trent XWB from the A350.
Great interview and excellent questions. Would love to see a longer interview with Boeing and Airbus someday.
For Air Algérie who ordered 5 a330-900neo and 2 a350-1000, those big boys are gonna boost up our services, opening plenty of chances of new routes and good capacity 🎉, we should highlight the a350-1000 again cuz it's super close to 777X with its efficiency and capacity 👌👏
capacity, for sure. efficiency however, A350-1000 is most likely more efficient as its much lighter and its engines produces less power
I like how he said he likes to visit his family. haha what a grand gesture 😂
What an amazing speaker!! Airbus is in good hands
I do think the A220-500 will finally happen, but only after CFM International announces a reduced-size LEAP-1A engine specifically for the A220-500.
That's kind what a LEAP-1B is
i think Airbus is on purpose delaying the a220-500 because it will be the death of the a320neo
So the A220-500 or A221 will never happen.
@@prysmikeloy9135 I don't think that a stretch A220 would kill the A320, A321, A321LR, A321XLR, just the A319 that doesn't sell well anyway. The A318 already ended.
CFM and Airbus both have some many current orders to fulfill the 500 is down the priority list
really hope you keep doing these interviews they're so well done
Loved these interviews, very professional and lots of good information
Great perspective on AB wide body family. Thanks for bringing it!
I also watched the Boeing video. Listening to this guy, there's no wonder Airbus is now the king of the skies. The mindset of Airbus and Boeing is completely different.
Very good interview. Admire your confidence, knowledge and skills here. 👌
Yes admiring is the right word- i love it too
Great questions and great interview, Coby!
Fantastic interview. You sir, will go far! Well done & keep 'em coming. Been a sub for quite a while BTW. Great stuff.
Great interview! Thanks for sharing!
i am a boeing guy. that being said right now if i was making decisions on aircraft at one of the airlines i’m running A220, & A330neos.
Great interview Coby!
Incredible depth of knowledge and passion. Super interview.
Great job Coby 👏👏👏
A380neo please, our children and grandchild need to fly a superjumbo❤❤❤
Both Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific getting mentioned, Philippines represent 🇵🇭
Nothing to be proud of
I was hoping you would ask him about the Airbus A330neo-800. And how they could increase sales of the jet
Agree i don't know how he missed that question in the A330 Neo topic.
He kind of hinted there would be A330 renewals
Coby could have pressed the point, but he did bring up 787 outselling A330neo by a wide margin.
In defense of A330-800, 787-8 hasn't been selling much better during the time both have been available. 787 orders began 10 years before the first orders for both A330-800 and -900 were taken in 2014. Only about 10% of total 787-8 orders to date have been placed since 2014 (since A330-800 was also orderable).
@@TonyM132 And not to forget that boeing lost a lot of money because they selled thir 787 too cheap. And that was mostly due to the competition with the A330/A330neo.
Interesting interview!
You should've asked about the future of A319NEO and A320NEO (the variant)
You'd probably have got the obvious answer - "yeah, the stretched 200 is going to affect the A319 and some of the A320. But it is going to hurt the competition far more - to the MAXimum in fact."
A319 is already on the heavy decline and the A320 is also becoming lees important than the A321. And with a strechted A220 A319 will be gone and A320 will lose a lot of market share
@@Infiltator2 It's true the A319 and A320 are already a smaller market, and the 220 will shrink it a bit more. But there will still be a base demand from airlines running 321s who need some smaller planes that retain commonality.
This airbus guy was so professional
What an enjoyable conversation. Nice answers to nice questions. Thank you Coby!
I have to agree that the A380neo won't be coming anytime soon, even if we're seeing airlines reactivate their A380 fleets. I think the real issue has more to do with the pilot shortage, hence, the airlines need to pack their passengers into one aircraft so that they can maximize their available crew. Once the pilot market stabilizes, we'll see a return to the norm of 787s and A350s dominating international trunk routes. We'll also see the return and expansion of more and more nonstop flights that bypass traditional hubs like we saw in 2019.
If there was a real solid demand for the A380neo, then the 777X shouldn't be doing this badly in the market.
Great interview.
Well done again Coby! You should see if you could interview with retired head of marketing John Leahy
Choo choo great interview
cant wait to get on an a220!
I love the interview, great response from airbus to
A double decker 1000 seater with the 4 of new generation of highest bypass ratio engines would really be great.
I like the fact that Airbus focuses a lot on customer requirements first
As a current flight attendant on A220-300, I would love to see an A220-stretch, maybe with bigger galleys since we struggle with space for service items on the longer flights. Also the new overhead lockers' design will be much appretiated specially to our back health.
YES, I HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE YOUR BOEING VP OF MARKETING VIDEO FOR THIS. OK NOW IM ACTUALLY GONNA WATCH
AYO I JUST FINISHED, BANGER VIDEO. HOWEVER REALLY NOTHING NEW WAS ANNOUNCED OTHER THAN RELEASE DATES LF AIRCRAFT UPDATES
Me too lol
Another pro interview. Embraer next?
It's excellent Skytrax 4-star rating notwithstanding, Philippine Airlines is NOT primarily a leisure carrier. Like ALL airlines based in the Philippines it is a workhorse. Most of its passengers are Filipino overseas workers who fly back and forth to visit their families at home, or just Filipinos island-hopping for work or family purposes. An economical flight is more important than a luxurious one. Besides, most of us Filipinos are relatively small in stature, so a ten-abreast seat configuration will not bother us too much. The same goes for Cebu Pacific's 451 seater A 330. Cebu Pacific is actually mainly a low cost carrier and the Philippines' biggest. In my flying experience, Airbus planes, whatever the configuration, were more comfortable and pleasant that Boeings. Even the A-300s were cool, whereas 737s and 767s were the worst!
Did you fly with ryanair🤣
Introducing the a 350-1000 ten abreast, cattle car moo 😂
@@redryder1146 12. That's your age and IQ score
I'm glad he addressed the fact that the NEO came late, hence the reason the nightmareliner has more deliveries
Nightmareliner? Thats great!🤣
And will continue to have more deliveries every year. Airbus targeting 4 per month for the a330neo in 2025, Boeing targeting 10 per month during the same time and 14 per month before the end of the decade.
I'd love an A220-500. Its a great plane and I would love to turn it into something larger and more useful. Maybe I could fly one from the NYC area. Most of the routes out of here are too busy for anything smaller than a 737.
Nice video
Many congratulations once again Coby, excellent interview. Your attitude and questions were impeccable. In my opinion, Airbus' attitude towards the evolution of its current models is quite clear. Don't change what's okay. The Airbus A220 has been successful, as well as the Airbus A380 and the Airbus A330 for example, which is why Airbus is not betting so much on an Airbus A220-500, or on a more stretched Airbus A330, or on a possible A380 neo. Airbus have done a fantastic job overall, they are obviously comfortable. Keep up the good work Coby.
I think the "if it aint broke don't fix it" attitude is only possible because their competition is so screwed. If Boeing was on its game they would be *forced* to spend the money to improve what they've got. Which is what I keep saying - Boeing's incompetence is damaging the whole industry, including in the long run Airbus.
@@kenoliver8913 I totally agree. Clearly Airbus needs Boeing and Boeing needs Airbus. Consequently, when one of the parts is lower, the remaining part inevitably ends up being harmed. It is necessary to find a kind of balance so that both parties can prosper in a healthy, sustainable and, above all, successful way.
A couple questions I would have asked:
1. Since you have already committed to build it eventually, and since everyone else has been calling it that, why aren't you calling it A220-500? Do you have a different model number in mind?
2. Which aspects of the A350 New Production Standard will be able to be retrofitted into existing A350's?
Hey Coby, come to Brazil and interview embraer. Ask them about a possibility of a larger aircraft.
I Have hope in the A380Neo
The A380 its my favorite aircraft but it is diyng, if the A380New launchs it will be so cool
Time passed quickly 🤯, that was surprising to me as the conversation ended 😕😅
Thats true
So hard no on the 380NEO. we already knew that despite what TC pitches.
Firing shots at every opportunity to boeing and their greediness over safety issues 😂. Not an airbus fan but really appreciate their investment into a more environmentally friendly way of flying, the amount of planes in the sky in the next 30 years definitely need less co2 emissions.
Boy a huge swipe at Boeing about safety
You can have all the mood lighting and large windows. At 10 abreast when you are in the middle section none of that will matter. Your shoulders will be curled in and by the time 8-10 hours go by you will be exhausted and uncomfortable. From shoulder to shoulder im 24 inches. I have to cross my arms not to invade others space after an hour or so. I lose feeling in my hands. I avoid middle seats like the plague. If I were to fly once a month I’d fly business. I fly 3x’s a month.
Will you make an interview with embrear?
Will the XL bins be optional or standard?
Good question
I don't think the a320 orders would impact US carriers as opposed to European and Asian carriers, due to the Airbus plant in Mobile, Alabama being mainly used to serve American carriers.
No word yet of a A350-1000 stretch to compete with the 777-9 or a stretch A321 (A322). It would had been a good question whats wrong with A330-800 sales to get Airbus feedback.
Pretty confident a further stretch of the A320 into an A322 is impossible and uneconomical due to high boarding times, decrease in range, worse takeoff performance and tailstrike risk.
@@oadka Well the 757 was even longer than the A321 and had none of those issues that you mentioned and Airbus its already working on a composite wing for a narrow body by the info they gave it should be about 147 feet wingspan and be folded so it can use the same gates as the A320 family. So they are quietly cooking something.
a 321 strech is highly unlikely. it's already soooo prone to tailstrike and the wings on this thing are way to small for a stretch version
@@ivanviera4773 They won't integrate into an existing airframe. Yes they are working on a new Wing but same goes for the airframe. At one point you just hit the maximum. Especially landing gear is a bottleneck due to MTOW. But as of now they also don't need to start anything as it still sales so insanley well
There won't be an A322. A plane that size is likely to be part of the family that replaces the A320neo family. My guess is that it will be the A360
As an airbus fan i wish the newer airbus widebodies were more successful (330neo, 350 compared to 787, 777x) and i would love to see an a380neo (or bring back the a380plus)
?? the 350 IS as successful as the 787. The 787 has only sold more because its about 10 years older
@@ant2312The 350 should moreover be compared to the 777. If you put the 777 and the 787 together i would argue Boeing is way more succsessful. Airbus did not really cover the market untill they had the 330 Neo which has been kind of lagging the 787 anyway.
@@ant2312wrong again you bloak .
I told you before the 787 and A350 programs were launched a mere 2 years apart not 10 as you claim !!!
Get the facts straight for a change !!!.
When even the Airbus head of global Marketing and Sales admits that the A380 is his favorite plane there should be a future for it (him). Cmon Airbus come around and reinstate production. We need this beautiful, gigantic plane!
Im pretty sure airbus will bring it back in 20-30 years when current airports become congested.
I beg to differ on the 350 cabin crew experience. From daily exchanges with sq crew, they much prefer working on the 777-300er, which has 3 easier to operate galleys (instead of 2 galleys on 350), and less squeezed crew rest areas. This is what counts for crew, much more than moodlighting, noise, or cabin altitude.
wrong, hearsay and I bet you're a Boeing fan
@@ant2312 The 350 is great but more cramped from a cabin crew pov. Just look at the facts.
777 : 3 galleys / 8 bed crew rest at the back.
350 : 2 galleys / 6 bed crew rest at the back.
Where are your facts ?
A380 is mostly volume. So only future for it would be use the volume for hydrogen tanks.
Imagine an A340NEO
hoping that a A380NEO will be manifested
Yeah, same
but he did make a video about it and he says it won´t be possible sadly
Tooling, supply chain and factory space gone. Not happening. Future will be large twins
As Airbus replaces pivot bins with fixed bins in the A220, could we see Airbus doing the same thing for A350?
While I appreciate that Mr. Airbus is more able to elegantly answer the questions thrown at him by Coby, I think it's a little bit of an exaggeration to say that passengers would be fine with the 10 abreast A350.
I'm not sure if the passenger tests and feedback he refers to are realistic, however, it's important to note that of course, passengers are more likely to say that they're comfortable with the tight seats IF there's nobody else around you.
Once you finally have real world data where economy class passengers are packed in a full flight aboard a 10 abreast A350, I doubt many will continue to say that the seats are comfortable.
As a moderately frequent flyer on PAL, I was incredibly disappointed to hear that they ordered their -1000s in a 10 abreast configuration. Hopefully I can still fly on the original -900s for longer while they still have their 9 abreast layout.
Tbh all things equal, I would prefer tighter seats assuming the airlines kept overall seating capacity the same so you can have more legroom, but obviously airlines don't want to do that lol
Airbus added the 10 abreast to close the gap in capacity with the 777-9 but i think the majority of the airlines will stay with 9 abreast.
@@JohnSmith-ck5qk I guess as long as I'm traveling with people I know, I'm okay with giving up a bit of width. I agree that if I can only have one, I'd rather have legroom than seat width. Painful truth is that airlines will try everything to squeeze as much revenue as they can from their equipment no matter the discomfort it causes their passengers.
@@ivanviera4773I guess in PAL's case too, if they did order the -1000s to replace their older 777-300ERs, it would make sense that they try to maintain the same cabin capacity, which entails the use of a 10 abreast cabin to match the outgoing aircraft.
What a difference listening to the Airbus Head of Marketing vs Boeing's. Airbus is definitely all about what customers want, and Boeing is we think we think we think and if we didnt think of it then it is phantom.
XL-Bins.......... what happen in case of evacuation..... everybody like grab is bag.....
HOW LONG TIME EVACUATION WILL NEED ❓❓❓ Not good..... Solution ???
A system must be installed that makes the bins lockable, controlled by cabin crew.
Corby u need "you folks" merch
Still skeptical about the 10-abreast A350. "Airiness" is a bit too vague of a gauge as well as the seat size/pitch remaining the same.
There's how long it takes to board the plane. How long do you have to wait to use the bathroom in flight. Noisiness of the cabin with ~10% more people. Food service! Will airlines increase crew sizes to match? I suspect no.
I dread flying a 777 now since nearly every carrier fits those with 10-abreast economy now. It's tolerable on an A380 because the cabin is big enough and on the lower deck you have less fuselage curve. I spend the bit extra to fly airlines with less densely packed planes.
10-abreast 777 has never felt cramped to me, always had good service
Overall I prefer Airbus but never had an issue.
@@planefan082I’ve dreaded flying on the 777 for it’s crammed economy but a very few amount of airlines have 3-3-3 instead
@@maxsaviation9512 Maybe I shouldn't speak here but I've never felt cramped on that layout (in economy). Except on American carriers. That made is apparent why most Americans don't really fly internationally.
@@planefan082 subjective, I feel cramped on 10 abreast Emirates 777s too
@@ant2312eally ,wait till you fly on an A350 at 10 abreast .!!!
😂😂
Could we also see Airbus designing a new sharklet for the A220 family over the next few years?
Why? What's wrong with the current winglet?
@@chris22capt it looks nothing like Airbus’s other new winglets. Also, an A350 style winglet will further increase efficiency
Its a shame cause if the a380 programme didnt get so delayed and costs sky rocketed for it we would probably see a NEO version but the amount of money they have probably lost on the a380 is crazy.
A380neo just substitute the mediocre Trent 900 for the XWB 84k (same thrust) and they've got a common engine between a380 and a350
Odd eye contact or rather lack thereof.
That really bothered me.
It´s not important
@@thegimliglider to me it was
@@greengraycolor but not for the content
@@thegimliglider yes, agree
Could they make a A322?
i hope its gonna be a good video as always
Commented before watching 😂
@@wadehiggins1114 do you understand english???
@@kommunism222I'm illiterate like you
ok
@@wadehiggins1114 oh look who it is, Mr Low IQ again
Oh no not 10 abreast on the A350!
“We never want to compromise safety.” I think that might have been a small jab at Boeing lol
I'd love a joint project between airbus and boeing to make the most hyper efficiant jet they can for budget airlines the world over
Yes, me too
What planet do you live on? These are competitors fighting each other for market share. Who will these budget airlines pay?
That would be terrible. That would be a textbook monopoly that will make it much more expensive for you or I to fly.
That simply does not happen like that
I wonder if airlines who have the old production a350s are gonna try to refit them 10 abreast, since they're more narrow
When it comes to the OPS, I suspect that Iberojet and World2fly would be the first to do that. That said, Philippine Airlines (the first FS carrier to put 10 abreast in A350NPS) is also likely to do that, since their existing A350s are earmarked for refit. Aside from them, the only other possible airline will also retrofit A350s in the future: Malaysia Airlines
I guess if the increase in width needed is down to the cabin wall moldings then it could be done at 'D' check?
I hope Coby remembered to zip up the Ceo’s pants afterwards 💀
aww you triggered
The Boeing 777 is barely wide enough to fly with 10 seats across and the Boeing 777 has a cabin width that is six inches wider than the Airbus a350 cabin that is 4 inches wider than the original Airbus a350. On the Boeing 777 with 10 seats abreast is it is difficult to move across the cabin during the flight to go to the bathroom. Some customers might only care about cost when it comes to flying might not mind, but to customers who want a more reasonable standard of comfort might ironically want to want to fly on Boeing 777 9 that is being certified. Boeing can use how narrow the Airbus a350 to Boeing’s advantage since Boeing can claim to have a more comfortable flight experience with a wider seat and wider aisles which means faster turnaround times. It might be to Airbus’s advantage to have 9 seats across on the Airbus a350 rather then 10 seats across.
“Listen to your customers and address their needs” - this guy needs a new line…
so do you
If the A330 NEO is so good in cost pr seat. Why doesn’t it get all the orders against the 787? He is very good at promoting Airbus, but some if his explanations dont really match how the markets see it.
because there is more to it than operational costs. Fleet commonality, sales price, etc.
Actually the 330neo is doing fine against the 787 in most markets. I think you are getting a skewed view by only looking at the north american market.
@@kenoliver8913the 787 trump's the 330 neo in all markets ..Not just the North American one.
THe A380 Neo could be a highly sought after aircraft since all airlines other than Malaysian have completely re introduced the a380 due to extremely high demand compared to what was expected. Plus no other aircraft can offer the comfort in first and business class as offered on most airlines a380's premium cabins.
No it would not. Many are still grounded.
Air France
They are re intoroducing a380s because the 777x delay and qatar had problems with the A350.
@@FinlandGuy747 Yeah it's temporary thing.
@@johniii8147 Pretty much the only exception is Emirstes and maybe Singapore Airlines.
Why not make a 380-800P2F?
Now seems the right time to announce the A220-500. Boeing is in the shitter and the A220 stretch may take away more market share. Biggest challenge for Airbus is manufacturing capacity.
Coby avoid looking down man, thats weird.
Yeah annoying
An a380neo just seems unlikely. Airbus is happy that project is behind them.
Which is frustrating because the 380 could have been a success - there is definitely a profitable niche for a good jumbo. But Airbus made lots of design mistakes with the 380 that led to it being just too thirsty - they were almost Boeing-like in their ability to choose the wrong option.
@@kenoliver8913I think the biggest issue with the A380 is that it was designed to be stretched from the beginning. I mean if things went differently there would be an A380-900 and A380-1000. I think Airbus could develop a smaller double level jumbo jet using twin engines in the future. If I were to guess I would say an A370 or A390
When Airbus makes a A220-500 they will most likely make a A350-800 as well.
The A350-800 was replaced by the A330NEO family. If anything it is more likely for Airbus to further stretch the A350-1000 to an A350-1100
Then build an A370 double decked shorter fuel efficient
Why would they build a shorter double decker and not longer one decker.
@@FinlandGuy747 because double deck is the A380 dna and what makes it unic and most loved plane for passengers
It’s the A221 just the A220-100?
They may not name it the A221 because of the confusion with the A220-100. For now, the project is called the A220-stretch.
hi
I doubt they making an a380 neo
Not looking forward to 10 across on an A350.
What yellow juice is he continuously sipping..?!!
How can they be proud of going 10 abreast.? I won't fly coach in a 777 ten abreast. Did that once. Never again.- Shanghai to Toronto. Absolutely miserable. My first trip to Europe 26 years ago costs what Premium Economy costs today- that was om what was comfortable 9 abreast 777.
Lmao last comment was 3 weeks time to update
quite a native english accent but I think I hear a hint of german in there, right?
We heard the customers.?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂