Spoilers. I haven't finished the episode yet but the her top 5 worst videos list is *horrible* . For anyone who hasn't watched/listened yet here are the time stamps for the list, if you're sensitive I'd suggest skipping it altogether. CP 20:41 to 24:00 (n°1 too detailed for me) Train accident 24:40 to 25:00 Animal cruelty 25:12 to 25:50 S**cide 26:00 to 26:50
I would be destroyed as a human being if I had to see a sliver of what she’s seen. Thank you to anyone who does this job. My heart goes out to you and you are appreciated.
The horrors of content moderation are not exactly a secret anymore. So many international publications have done stories on them, whether it's about that big content moderation center in Berlin where people from many nationalities come together to look at the worst shit posted in their respective countries or in the Philippines where much of the worst stuff is outsourced to people who have to choose between having food on the table or having their trust in humanity be destroyed for life, and there have been stories about content moderation centers in the US. All the information is out there. Why would these assholes fire her?
From what I've heard, Facebook outsources this job to India and they give them 0 mental support for it, and its just as traumatizing for those poor humans as well. If you've ever stumbled upon something horrible online I imagine its just a tiny fraction of what these people deal with, I can't imagine how they deal.
Here in the Philippines, there are multiple outsourcing companies offering this job tagged as "content moderators". It's basically mental torture that those have this job have to endure because it's their bread and butter. The pay is actually good, more than the above average. But aiming for that bigger pay at what cost? Right? The nature of the job is fucked up but we can't deny that their work is a necessity at this generation.
fb had a civil lawsuit settlement a about a year ago because they had employees looking on facebook messenger for T words & they were exposed to the most heinous & traumatizing things. Leighton Stollard a producer from supermega was one of the ppl that won a settlement & he discusses it on one of their pods
Huh, that's a really good point. I never thought about it being dealt with by law enforcement. At the end of the day, though I guess, we are all civilians and we are all able to be traumatised. *Hopefully* they would receive training and debriefing either way. I can only assume they are able to send troubling videos onto relevant law enforcement agencies.
That’s stupid. Police officers are people too who also get traumatized by a job like this. Most police officers are traumatized from their job already. Why do you guys insist on alway delegating your issues someone else. Don’t pond your issues away on others. Fix them instead.
@@nameless592 I think they were saying at least a whole police department you could have the load shared along with other people instead of one singular person taking on the trauma alone in their home. They also could pursue charges on people or contact other departments. Maybe this should be a legal matter situation.
@@nameless592 whose issues? how are the dregs of society posting gore and abuse on social media suddenly the "problem" of a random person in the RUclips comments? jeez, chill tf out. Also, "pond" your issues is not a thing. Idk what you are trying to say, but the mark was missed by a mile.
Such a great point! With the subject matters that can come up on apps like this, you would think that this would only be for like trained professionals that know what they are coming into every day.
Best way is to not waste your life on Instagram curating a bullshit view of yourself, just like everyone else does. It's narcissistic and freaky. Average people acting important. But they believe their own collective delusion. Narcissists are dangerous and society is full of them. If someone has an Instagram I no longer want to get to know them. Best way to censor it is to not participate in such a vain, egocentric echo-chamber.
You have a very narrow view of every instagram user. 11% of the world are narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths, but the others are just people who happend to film or take a pic of somthing they think is interesting, before the internet you might show that picture to a friend or family now you can just show it to the world. @@TheRealJaded
I’m 10 minutes in and I’ve already gotten chills multiple times just thinking about the stuff she needs to watch. That’s crazy. I didn’t even know her job was a real thing. Like Joe said, I thought it was just a computer algorithm that takes care of these things. I can’t imagine doing her job.
I'm actually confused because obvious bullying and hate speech live on social media everyday. Things that are reported are never considered hate speech or bullying when they are.
I was traumatized at like 13 by an instagram account that was hacked and posted CP. I 100% agree with the idea of not letting your kids have access to the internet unsupervised until they are 16. I would never want them to experience that. I wish so badly I could erase the video from my brain.
SAME! Thanks for this comment. I really thought I was alone in this PTSD. It haunts me and makes me so fearful of men around kids, even family members.. legit traumatized I’d never want ANYONE to be allowed to see that. Feels amazing to know im not the only one.
@@lupita9583I haven’t seen a video of CP, but I’ve seen pics :( traumatizing & terrible. I was a minor myself but a teen when I saw them. The victims in the pics were white, blonde girls that were probs 5-12. The owner of the account posted lots of nazi stuff, so not surprised dude is messed up. Idk how I even found his page on tumblr but I looked at it cause I was just wondering how someone could be a nazi & then, all of a sudden, Im seeing CP. I reported him on tumblr & to the cybercrimes ppl. Crazy how bold some of those creeps are. I felt so sick after seeing those things. Idk how ppl get off to if, it’s so depraved and sick.
I read an interesting article about the people that did this exact job she does for po rn hub. Things have changed there recently but there was crazy stuff being uploaded including illegal stuff. the article was mostly about how watching that stuff all day really screwed with their heads, even just watching “normal” po Rn stuff. Seeing P.O. Rn all day equates to torture after awhile. Their HQ are in Canada. Perhaps you can find one of those people for another pod cast. I simply cannot imagine what that does for people. Thank you guys, I love this pod cast. So interesting. God bless.
Wow doing this job for PH? I’ll have to look into that article, there must be some heinous heinous things they have to see like one of her top five worst.
I agree but I also believe social media provides too many safe spaces for people to seek these things out and seek out other people who are into these atrocities. I think that if we didn’t have these spaces available, it would be a lot harder for people to think this is okay/indulge. But who’s to say, really. This is the reality we are in :/ There are a lot of bright sides to the internet and social media, too.
The best thing about social media is this. Being able to spread awareness and knowledge, learning from each other. This podcast is basically what all social media should be like, imo. :) It's so much more than just interesting and entertaining, it really makes a difference for people and builds knowledge, awareness and acceptance. Unfortunately, like you said, most of the shit we consume is braindead, depressing or straight up horrible. It's damaging and we're overdosing it every day.
10 min in. This is so interesting! It made me think... looking at a bunch of horrible things on the Internet makes people depressed but that’s what people said when they look at Instagram and see a bunch of people so incredibly happy and flexing their lives. Seems like Internet in general makes people depressed, get out, live your life and enjoy everything you have! Life Is amazing!!
My kids didn't have a phone - they only got one once they obtained their own funds - so after 16+yrs old. The computer was out in the lounge room. I watched tv/youtube with them out in the lounge room. People have to take responsibility for the technology they allow their kids to access. No child needs a phone.
The thing that gets me with this is there is stuff I've seen that is soooooo awful and someone watches it and says it's not against guidelines, yet simple bodies are removed bc they are in a swim suit or shorts. It's makes me sooo angry
As much as I love parts of social media, especially youtube, I would go back to pre-internet days in a heartbeat. Its just responsible for so much societal damage.
If I worked at this job I'd wear special glasses/sunglasses that dim the image just a little bit, just to not see the video in the flesh. I would still be able to see the disgusting/traumatizing content. This is to protect my mental health
This job sounds super super traumatizing. I could NEVER do it for specifically the animal abuse videos. I can’t handle that at all. God bless the people who work this position to hide these things from everyone else’s eyes 🙏🏼
I had a friend, dead now who worked as a court stenographer in child abuse cases. In the family court these cases were private and the media were not allowed to report on them. She did this job for five years, it mentally destroyed her.
**me trying to assess my life every week when Joe says to email if you think you’d be a good story on the show but also knowing I’m just a toddler mom with a normal 9-5 job who cleans house and makes mediocre dinners every night**
i mean sure there are people with wild life stories and all that jazz, but you are still unique, you are still amazing for what you’ve done with yourself, your life, anything. i’ve thought about emailing because i have some stuff i’d love to talk about but it’s so touchy and personal for me and not many people know, i’d be afraid of the wrong people hearing it ya know?
I’ve heard of these videos going. Ready to Glare, shared on her RUclips channel a video on the platform that the woman is talking about where they trick their friends to watch what they THOUGHT was a normal video but was actually traumatizing and disturbing. She developed some sort of paranoia after watching it. It’s horrible :(.
It’s tough just hearing her sharing this, I can’t imagine doing this for a job every day. Mad respect for people who do this. I also super appreciate her giving trigger warnings for what she was about to speak about in further detail. You can tell she is doing this because she cares for the safety & mental heslth of people online.
Wow... I have such gratefulness to this woman and others like her who protect the vast majority of us from seeing these sorts of awful things. Thank you SO much. ☹️💜💜💜
This really opened my eyes and also made my heart hurt.... that list was soul scarring. I could never do that line of work... much respect to this person, but I really hope you do not have to do it for years to come..I seriously can’t imagine what that does to a person’s mentality over long periods of time ❤️
As a court reporting student, and yes I am practicing to this on my steno machine, it sometimes just makes me think about what I want to hear about in court. In the end I want to end up working in Grand Jury where the real crazy stuff happens in my county so in a way my job might be a little similar to this person. Instead of videos, yeah they might show these in court but then I have to take down depositions of people doing this. So in that sense, very good topic today you guys, I learned a lot in this video, but it also reminds me of the stuff I am going to have to deal with someday. Keep it up guys, great show!
Good luck in your career. :) I do court transcription and let me tell you, the things you will hear will get to you. Take care of yourself and make sure you distance yourself from work - and talk through cases that really get to you, don't just push them aside.
They should but My theory is doing so would probably open a can of worms for the company basically accepting “liability” for the ptsd or even worse for workers. Corporate nonsense to protect themselves (the company she works for) from litigation.
Were all drawn to the morbid more or less but its the worst when people hide the content within other content to tricking people to watching it. Like that video of some girl dancing to then clip straight to a beheading. Traumatizing kids, and for what? Fun? True psycho shit
So I just opened RUclips & began scrolling down my homepage, however I didn’t see anything good so I said _”come on RUclips, you gotta do better than that”_ & I shit you not as soon as I finished that sentence the OPL notification popped up... the YT gods heard my plea & they came through with *CONTENT.*
This is really interesting. Surfing social media is a lot like driving a car ... you can travel and explore wholesome places or you can go to dark devious places that reflect the underbelly of society. I use a lot of social media but because I watch Tech channels, digital and traditional art, travel, archeology, space exploration, science, News channels, documentaries ... then the algorithms serve up mostly educational channels or those related to these topics. So the worst I've seen on Social Media is a few 'gossip' channels or dumb show off stuff where people jump into pools from their rooftops. So my impression was that humans can sometimes be stupidly dumb ... but I had no idea that people could be so brain dead as to post the kind of garbage that your guest described having to screen. This is a real eye opener.
Y’alls ad placements are perfect it makes me want to engage with them bc it doesn’t interrupt the intensity and gives the viewer a break before engaging w the ending it’s really nice
This is a topic I am very interested in. I am 25 so I had social media throughout my teens but it was just Facebook which was sooo different back then. I am extremely grateful that I am not a child/teenager growing up with so many social medias. I mainly just stick to my very small circle on Facebook and Instagram.
ID verification needs to be mandated on any website or social media where sex and violence may be posted idc how inconvenient that is. People and systems don’t give a shit about children nearly enough
I can stomach a lot of things, but the second she mentioned a man and a puppy I was out. Sorry guys, this is just too disturbing for me. Major props to her, and I hope she lands a less horrific, PTSD ensuing job.
just her descriptions of those videos made me cry, i cant imagine having to watch them. Very appreciative of people in her position who keep us from having to see those posts wow
People can be truly awful. So full of hate. I stumbled upon some channels that exist solely to hate on a certain obese RUclipsr and all the comments on there just completely make me lose faith in humanity. It’s crazy.
I remember working for state benefit organisation, taking calls about complaints - I lasted 8 months before I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression, I left a month later! you see the worst of humanity
Listen to her very carefully laughing - that’s a coping mechanism. People under a great deal of stress laugh at points like that. I hope that she has access to at least mental health support 😔
I'm way too numb to gore videos and such. pretty weird feeling seeing how much it effects people that haven't been ruined. it's a pretty rough thing to contemplate
I was just thinking about how vaping was started to help people "quit" smoking but has it really just given people more opportunity to get their nicotine fix? You can pretty much get away with hitting a vape pen , nicotine or THC ANYWHEEEEEREEE.
I have a pre teen and they are NOT allowed to get a social media platform at all of their phone. I search and charge their phone every night (or else they would be up all night on it) and the worst they have is a Discord for games and watches RUclips but we share the account so I know what's up. I've told him there's terrible things on those things that are very adult and could really mess up their minds. They also call me a Boomer cause I use FB lol
This job is frightening. I can't even imagine. I encountered the TikTok of Ronnie McNutt shooting himself in the head a year or two back and I was so scarred. This poor woman has to see that all the time for her job. Breaks my heart.
Those really bad videos usually get thru FB . That’s the platform I’ve seen the worst stuff . Especially those cartel ones . I saw a video of someone stabbing someone but it was real . I literally started freaking out crying cause I knew it was real . Also seeing a head getting chopped off . It messed me up for a while . How ppl could stomach doing that is crazy .
I woke up and went on tik tok and the first thing I seen was that live stream of his brains blown out, I was more angry that children would see that disturbing video
I try to avoid horrific things online and I am already jaded and have lost faith in humanity. I stay off all social media except RUclips, which is still just a bunch of ads disguised as information or entertainment.
This person should read Trauma Stewardship: An Everyday Guide to Caring for Self While Caring for Others by Connie Burk and Laura van Dernoot Lipsky. It touches on secondary trauma and the impacts
Social media definitely messed with my mental health , had to stop using them once I realized . I cant even imagine what they go through if this is their job :( .
This was awful to listen to. I will never understand why people use social media like this, or why they do things like this in the first place. But I have to say that I don't think social media is all bad. I use it alot and I have almost never had a bad experience on it. It depends on how you use it, who you follow and what you search. I just wish people would stop being idiots in general. #muchlove 🇧🇻
This whole time, I was actually thinking of a video I saw on Facebook 2 or 3 years ago of a kitten getting stomped on, and I think of that occasionally, and the poor thing’s painful meow. I don’t know how it ended up on fb, just able to be watched!
Well, social media platforms are global and each company has the same policy throughout all countries. Law enforcement is not global, each country manages it's own, there are different laws. Who investigates a video made by a tourist in USA that is not an american citizen? How fast can their nationality be determined so their country can deal with them? Also, law enforcement does not have the same budget as a multimillion dollar company. Very few countries can afford an AI that blocks these videos or flags them. Some videos are not illegal, like misoginy, sexism, they're just wrong. What would happen to those?
There was this teen girl who got murdered and the guy slit her throat, posted it on ig, and people kept reposting it. That scarred me so bad compared to all the beheadings, gore accidents vids etc ive seen. It felt way too real and close to home. Crazy having to see that as your job, seeing the accounts who post it, knowing its happening ATM, wondering if they even got justice.
It just goes to show how much mental health support & access should be available & not stigmatized. Humans can be so f'd up & everyday folks need an outlet to help compartmentalize that stuff and reflect on it in a healthy way.
27:29 the answer is the old saying, “Misery loves company”. People put these horrific things online because they want others to suffer too. They want to spread the trauma around.
If you're reading these comments lady from the video, thank you for doing the work you do, and on the bright side you may have saved at least 1 child or animal from being abused by reporting these people to the proper authorities. They dont show that side to people IRL.
so important to hear from people like this brave woman. I could not agree with her more about the negligence of parents letting their young children on social media, or just being totally disconnected from their online lives. The things teenagers get into on social media is truly horrific, and it won't end well for anyone once this generation grows up. I've seen teens spending their days "hunting/bullying/baiting pedos" as they call it, while associating themselves with dangerous and/or emotionally unstable adults just because those adults also participate in seeking out people they decide are pedophiles, whether they actually are or not. Needless to say, these teens end up groomed and abused numerous times, but because most of them were already CSA survivors who weren't given proper help to recover and heal, it's completely impossible to convince them to stop and distance themselves from these groups. They're wasting their youth retraumatizing themselves and putting ever more minors in danger with their actions, all because predatory adults encourage them to obsess over their desire for revenge. And I've seen teens get radicalized into terrible ideology that's been purposefully watered down and disguised as progressive, leading them to distrust the advice and knowledge of therapists and psychologists. They form mobs of literal hundreds in order to dogpile anyone who disagrees with these ideologies, spamming them with threats, suicide baiting, and gore videos, all over petty fandom drama. And their victims are almost always marginalized people and survivors of all kinds of abuse. There's no more nuance or middle-ground, everything is stark black and white and the scariest part is that these kids will swear the sky is green and grass is blue.
I just got hired for this job and start my training next week. I was warned before hand and in my interview they did show me some tweets and videos of what I might be encountering. Yeah I’m very nervous about this job but like she was saying there just isn’t a lot of decent paying jobs out there and this one is paying well. I’m hoping I can last at least a year
Ive recently gotten into a wormhole about mysoginy and sexism and my algorythyms keep recommending me more insane stories and things, and I now see the whole world so much more negatively and am always on gaurd. Can't imagine being forced to see that type of shit 8 hrs a day or so. How much you have to retrain your mind.
I know someone who did this for FB, and she would have to dispatch police for crimes. She had to quit, she said the crimes were horrible and it was so hard to watch
It doesn't sound like a bad job on the surface, but I'd be afraid of getting some of the videos she describes. I don't think I would last long and would end up quitting.
I was in a telegram chat where someone started posting videos of people getting shot and child abuse. It was so disturbing, I can’t imagine watching that every day for work
This was a great episode. Even though this is very sad to hear it’s the harsh reality of the internet. These poor people behind these screens have to see this stuff every day. There is no end to this either the internet is out of control. I’m just waiting to see a shitty comment under this video after hearing all of this. 😢
The scary part is I don't want kids to have phones but I was the victim of not having a phone and nearly being kidnapped. If I didn't scream so loud and refuse to get near the man then I would have been taken. If he had just a little bit more guts to get me then he would have had me.
What she says about preventing children from having smartphones/ social media is spot on. My kid already gets upset with me because I don't allow Roblox. He's going to be very upset when he's the kid that isn't allowed a smart phone
rough episode for sure. I too sort of assumed that algorithms just flagged this kind of stuff at this point. crazy that people have to sift through this and subject themselves to these things. Hope she's able to find a new job soon once more pandemic restrictions are lifted
My friend got ptsd from this job. Her last straw was a video where a young boy was having intercourse with a chicken. Animal abuse hits me hard, I couldn’t do this job.
I couldn’t do this job. I deleted everything except Instagram because I couldn’t believe what would get posted. Suicides, car crash aftermaths, people stomping on puppies, etc. I couldn’t believe the things that would be approved to be posted. I’m good with my little insta that contains my family members and friends. I usually block strangers
Spoilers.
I haven't finished the episode yet but the her top 5 worst videos list is *horrible* . For anyone who hasn't watched/listened yet here are the time stamps for the list, if you're sensitive I'd suggest skipping it altogether.
CP 20:41 to 24:00 (n°1 too detailed for me)
Train accident 24:40 to 25:00
Animal cruelty 25:12 to 25:50
S**cide 26:00 to 26:50
Thank you so much 😭
@@KristinaMoonchild7 yeah, I don't know if I'm going to cry or throw up.
@@mrs0m2512 i listen to true crime podcast/videos so I thought I'd take one for the team but it was brutal.
Thank you so much for the time stamps and warning. Im listening at work and I can’t handle animal cruelty, I don’t want to be upset here
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I would be destroyed as a human being if I had to see a sliver of what she’s seen. Thank you to anyone who does this job. My heart goes out to you and you are appreciated.
Like the guys said, I’m SO thankful I was born in the “in between” stage of pre social media and what it’s come to be now.
I know someone who does this for FB. It's so traumatizing. Also, I would alter her voice since her accent is pretty distinct.
I actually have no idea what that accent is. I keep trying to figure it out and I’ve no idea. Maybe I’m just uncultured lol but I’m also European
@@Shucksofficial same haha
I think Lisa S means anyone who knows her would be able to recognize her voice. I thiiiink lol
@@Shucksofficial as a german, i think she sounds really german haha
The horrors of content moderation are not exactly a secret anymore. So many international publications have done stories on them, whether it's about that big content moderation center in Berlin where people from many nationalities come together to look at the worst shit posted in their respective countries or in the Philippines where much of the worst stuff is outsourced to people who have to choose between having food on the table or having their trust in humanity be destroyed for life, and there have been stories about content moderation centers in the US. All the information is out there. Why would these assholes fire her?
From what I've heard, Facebook outsources this job to India and they give them 0 mental support for it, and its just as traumatizing for those poor humans as well. If you've ever stumbled upon something horrible online I imagine its just a tiny fraction of what these people deal with, I can't imagine how they deal.
Wow that's unethical💔
Absolutely!!!
Here in the Philippines, there are multiple outsourcing companies offering this job tagged as "content moderators". It's basically mental torture that those have this job have to endure because it's their bread and butter. The pay is actually good, more than the above average. But aiming for that bigger pay at what cost? Right? The nature of the job is fucked up but we can't deny that their work is a necessity at this generation.
fb had a civil lawsuit settlement a about a year ago because they had employees looking on facebook messenger for T words & they were exposed to the most heinous & traumatizing things. Leighton Stollard a producer from supermega was one of the ppl that won a settlement & he discusses it on one of their pods
My god I can’t believe this is a job for civilians and isnt a whole police department’s duty. People are effing whack.
Huh, that's a really good point. I never thought about it being dealt with by law enforcement. At the end of the day, though I guess, we are all civilians and we are all able to be traumatised. *Hopefully* they would receive training and debriefing either way. I can only assume they are able to send troubling videos onto relevant law enforcement agencies.
That’s stupid. Police officers are people too who also get traumatized by a job like this. Most police officers are traumatized from their job already. Why do you guys insist on alway delegating your issues someone else. Don’t pond your issues away on others. Fix them instead.
@@nameless592 I think they were saying at least a whole police department you could have the load shared along with other people instead of one singular person taking on the trauma alone in their home. They also could pursue charges on people or contact other departments. Maybe this should be a legal matter situation.
@@nameless592 whose issues? how are the dregs of society posting gore and abuse on social media suddenly the "problem" of a random person in the RUclips comments? jeez, chill tf out. Also, "pond" your issues is not a thing. Idk what you are trying to say, but the mark was missed by a mile.
Such a great point! With the subject matters that can come up on apps like this, you would think that this would only be for like trained professionals that know what they are coming into every day.
Bless her and others doing this job trying to screen the world from seeing this terrible shit.
Best way is to not waste your life on Instagram curating a bullshit view of yourself, just like everyone else does. It's narcissistic and freaky. Average people acting important. But they believe their own collective delusion. Narcissists are dangerous and society is full of them. If someone has an Instagram I no longer want to get to know them. Best way to censor it is to not participate in such a vain, egocentric echo-chamber.
@@TheRealJaded yikes, cringe
@@TheRealJaded how does instagram get you that mad bro
@@TheRealJadedI bet you’re the first one scrolling on IG in the morning. The loud ones like you are always hypocrites.
You have a very narrow view of every instagram user. 11% of the world are narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths, but the others are just people who happend to film or take a pic of somthing they think is interesting, before the internet you might show that picture to a friend or family now you can just show it to the world. @@TheRealJaded
I’m 10 minutes in and I’ve already gotten chills multiple times just thinking about the stuff she needs to watch. That’s crazy. I didn’t even know her job was a real thing. Like Joe said, I thought it was just a computer algorithm that takes care of these things. I can’t imagine doing her job.
I'm actually confused because obvious bullying and hate speech live on social media everyday. Things that are reported are never considered hate speech or bullying when they are.
I was traumatized at like 13 by an instagram account that was hacked and posted CP. I 100% agree with the idea of not letting your kids have access to the internet unsupervised until they are 16. I would never want them to experience that. I wish so badly I could erase the video from my brain.
Hey. Im sorry that happened to you
SAME! Thanks for this comment. I really thought I was alone in this PTSD. It haunts me and makes me so fearful of men around kids, even family members.. legit traumatized I’d never want ANYONE to be allowed to see that. Feels amazing to know im not the only one.
@@lupita9583I haven’t seen a video of CP, but I’ve seen pics :( traumatizing & terrible. I was a minor myself but a teen when I saw them. The victims in the pics were white, blonde girls that were probs 5-12. The owner of the account posted lots of nazi stuff, so not surprised dude is messed up. Idk how I even found his page on tumblr but I looked at it cause I was just wondering how someone could be a nazi & then, all of a sudden, Im seeing CP. I reported him on tumblr & to the cybercrimes ppl. Crazy how bold some of those creeps are. I felt so sick after seeing those things. Idk how ppl get off to if, it’s so depraved and sick.
I read an interesting article about the people that did this exact job she does for po rn hub. Things have changed there recently but there was crazy stuff being uploaded including illegal stuff. the article was mostly about how watching that stuff all day really screwed with their heads, even just watching “normal” po Rn stuff. Seeing P.O. Rn all day equates to torture after awhile. Their HQ are in Canada. Perhaps you can find one of those people for another pod cast. I simply cannot imagine what that does for people. Thank you guys, I love this pod cast. So interesting. God bless.
Wow doing this job for PH? I’ll have to look into that article, there must be some heinous heinous things they have to see like one of her top five worst.
Once Google offered me that job. I refused it in a second. Hell no, no money would do for the PTSD I’d have after (animal abuse, killing, gore, etc)
Hope the pay is good at least for what these people have to see and do
@@stabletocity3976 it’s not, sadly.
@@vickyoli oh fuck that
The issue is not social media. The issue is human nature. All social media does is shine a spotlight on it.
I agree but I also believe social media provides too many safe spaces for people to seek these things out and seek out other people who are into these atrocities. I think that if we didn’t have these spaces available, it would be a lot harder for people to think this is okay/indulge. But who’s to say, really. This is the reality we are in :/ There are a lot of bright sides to the internet and social media, too.
Sure, Mr. “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people”. Your reasoning is idyllic and inapplicable to real life.
The best thing about social media is this. Being able to spread awareness and knowledge, learning from each other. This podcast is basically what all social media should be like, imo. :) It's so much more than just interesting and entertaining, it really makes a difference for people and builds knowledge, awareness and acceptance.
Unfortunately, like you said, most of the shit we consume is braindead, depressing or straight up horrible. It's damaging and we're overdosing it every day.
10 min in. This is so interesting! It made me think... looking at a bunch of horrible things on the Internet makes people depressed but that’s what people said when they look at Instagram and see a bunch of people so incredibly happy and flexing their lives. Seems like Internet in general makes people depressed, get out, live your life and enjoy everything you have! Life Is amazing!!
I can't change i can't go out
@@moustachio05 I'm sorry you feel that way. I understand, but I hope you can find a way through it all to a happier life.
My kids didn't have a phone - they only got one once they obtained their own funds - so after 16+yrs old. The computer was out in the lounge room. I watched tv/youtube with them out in the lounge room. People have to take responsibility for the technology they allow their kids to access. No child needs a phone.
if they have friends and go to public school they'll see it regardless.
The thing that gets me with this is there is stuff I've seen that is soooooo awful and someone watches it and says it's not against guidelines, yet simple bodies are removed bc they are in a swim suit or shorts. It's makes me sooo angry
I would be traumatized if I had her job, like this could cause major ptsd my God...
i've seen articles on it. the depression/su*cide rates of people in these jobs is much much higher and they all develop PTSD.
As much as I love parts of social media, especially youtube, I would go back to pre-internet days in a heartbeat. Its just responsible for so much societal damage.
this might be the most illuminating episode of the opl podcast.
If I worked at this job I'd wear special glasses/sunglasses that dim the image just a little bit, just to not see the video in the flesh.
I would still be able to see the disgusting/traumatizing content. This is to protect my mental health
Yes! Or have the volume muted so I wouldn’t have to hear the cries of the animals :(
The fact that they didn’t tell them the bad parts of the job is insane to me
This job sounds super super traumatizing. I could NEVER do it for specifically the animal abuse videos. I can’t handle that at all. God bless the people who work this position to hide these things from everyone else’s eyes 🙏🏼
Wow this is the first one I had to skip parts of. Really glad this interview happened, her work is unimaginably hard
I had a friend, dead now who worked as a court stenographer in child abuse cases. In the family court these cases were private and the media were not allowed to report on them. She did this job for five years, it mentally destroyed her.
Did she end up taking her life?:(
@@stabletocity3976 No. It was cancer.
When she talked about the puppy I nearly cried. What a horrible world we live in 😞
Ok so, she works for TikTok. Lol
Right lmao
Lol
I was thinking Instagram
@@antonioisacommonname6550 No, audience of teens and videos up to a minute is Tiktok for sure.
They are all basically the same so idk why she'd hide it
**me trying to assess my life every week when Joe says to email if you think you’d be a good story on the show but also knowing I’m just a toddler mom with a normal 9-5 job who cleans house and makes mediocre dinners every night**
@Arely Delgado ❤️🙏🏼🥺
So true. Can relate.
You're blessed.
Girl me too
i mean sure there are people with wild life stories and all that jazz, but you are still unique, you are still amazing for what you’ve done with yourself, your life, anything. i’ve thought about emailing because i have some stuff i’d love to talk about but it’s so touchy and personal for me and not many people know, i’d be afraid of the wrong people hearing it ya know?
I’ve heard of these videos going. Ready to Glare, shared on her RUclips channel a video on the platform that the woman is talking about where they trick their friends to watch what they THOUGHT was a normal video but was actually traumatizing and disturbing. She developed some sort of paranoia after watching it. It’s horrible :(.
I like watching her vids but I haven't seen that one.. can you send a link or say what the title to that episode was pls?
It’s tough just hearing her sharing this, I can’t imagine doing this for a job every day. Mad respect for people who do this.
I also super appreciate her giving trigger warnings for what she was about to speak about in further detail. You can tell she is doing this because she cares for the safety & mental heslth of people online.
Wow... I have such gratefulness to this woman and others like her who protect the vast majority of us from seeing these sorts of awful things. Thank you SO much. ☹️💜💜💜
This really opened my eyes and also made my heart hurt.... that list was soul scarring. I could never do that line of work... much respect to this person, but I really hope you do not have to do it for years to come..I seriously can’t imagine what that does to a person’s mentality over long periods of time ❤️
Teenagers today have a very grim future to look forward to..no matter how it is spun. I imagine it goes well beyond just social media.
This is by far my favorite video. It brings up so much light into the dark side of social media.
As a court reporting student, and yes I am practicing to this on my steno machine, it sometimes just makes me think about what I want to hear about in court. In the end I want to end up working in Grand Jury where the real crazy stuff happens in my county so in a way my job might be a little similar to this person. Instead of videos, yeah they might show these in court but then I have to take down depositions of people doing this. So in that sense, very good topic today you guys, I learned a lot in this video, but it also reminds me of the stuff I am going to have to deal with someday. Keep it up guys, great show!
Good luck in your career. :) I do court transcription and let me tell you, the things you will hear will get to you. Take care of yourself and make sure you distance yourself from work - and talk through cases that really get to you, don't just push them aside.
Her employer should give the employees who do this free therapy.
Absolutely
They do… she talked about that
S/he does...
They should but My theory is doing so would probably open a can of worms for the company basically accepting “liability” for the ptsd or even worse for workers. Corporate nonsense to protect themselves (the company she works for) from litigation.
they know free therapy will help them realize they need to quit the job as quickly as possible.
Were all drawn to the morbid more or less but its the worst when people hide the content within other content to tricking people to watching it. Like that video of some girl dancing to then clip straight to a beheading. Traumatizing kids, and for what? Fun? True psycho shit
There’s so many disgusting people out there, it’s hard to be happy knowing this shit is going on ☹️
So I just opened RUclips & began scrolling down my homepage, however I didn’t see anything good so I said _”come on RUclips, you gotta do better than that”_ & I shit you not as soon as I finished that sentence the OPL notification popped up... the YT gods heard my plea & they came through with *CONTENT.*
If anyone deserves a Snuggie and hot chocolate gift basket it’s her.
This is really interesting. Surfing social media is a lot like driving a car ... you can travel and explore wholesome places or you can go to dark devious places that reflect the underbelly of society. I use a lot of social media but because I watch Tech channels, digital and traditional art, travel, archeology, space exploration, science, News channels, documentaries ... then the algorithms serve up mostly educational channels or those related to these topics. So the worst I've seen on Social Media is a few 'gossip' channels or dumb show off stuff where people jump into pools from their rooftops. So my impression was that humans can sometimes be stupidly dumb ... but I had no idea that people could be so brain dead as to post the kind of garbage that your guest described having to screen. This is a real eye opener.
Y’alls ad placements are perfect it makes me want to engage with them bc it doesn’t interrupt the intensity and gives the viewer a break before engaging w the ending it’s really nice
This is a topic I am very interested in. I am 25 so I had social media throughout my teens but it was just Facebook which was sooo different back then. I am extremely grateful that I am not a child/teenager growing up with so many social medias. I mainly just stick to my very small circle on Facebook and Instagram.
ID verification needs to be mandated on any website or social media where sex and violence may be posted idc how inconvenient that is. People and systems don’t give a shit about children nearly enough
who raised this kids and those people. I could cry hearing this sh**.
Check out For Your Own Good by Alice Miller (its on audible)
I can stomach a lot of things, but the second she mentioned a man and a puppy I was out. Sorry guys, this is just too disturbing for me. Major props to her, and I hope she lands a less horrific, PTSD ensuing job.
just her descriptions of those videos made me cry, i cant imagine having to watch them. Very appreciative of people in her position who keep us from having to see those posts wow
This type of job would make me a completely diff person. I can’t imagine not becoming depressed.
I agree, Joe! I finally got off of all social media except youtube and even here I try not to read comments bc it affects my mood.
People can be truly awful. So full of hate. I stumbled upon some channels that exist solely to hate on a certain obese RUclipsr and all the comments on there just completely make me lose faith in humanity. It’s crazy.
I remember working for state benefit organisation, taking calls about complaints - I lasted 8 months before I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression, I left a month later! you see the worst of humanity
Imagine being those people that saw those 5 worst videos in order to report them😳😳😳😭😭😭
Listen to her very carefully laughing - that’s a coping mechanism. People under a great deal of stress laugh at points like that. I hope that she has access to at least mental health support 😔
Sexual crimes in my opinion are some of the most distubing. I wonder how much CP and sexual gore, rap*, etc, porn mods have to deal with.
I'm way too numb to gore videos and such. pretty weird feeling seeing how much it effects people that haven't been ruined. it's a pretty rough thing to contemplate
This was incredibly insightful. So interesting. She is an angel for doing this work. I really had no idea this was a full time job.
I was just thinking about how vaping was started to help people "quit" smoking but has it really just given people more opportunity to get their nicotine fix? You can pretty much get away with hitting a vape pen , nicotine or THC ANYWHEEEEEREEE.
This woman is so down to earth 🌎
I love her attitude, shes smart, and wants to hold parents accountable for the dangers kids face on the internet.
I have a pre teen and they are NOT allowed to get a social media platform at all of their phone. I search and charge their phone every night (or else they would be up all night on it) and the worst they have is a Discord for games and watches RUclips but we share the account so I know what's up. I've told him there's terrible things on those things that are very adult and could really mess up their minds. They also call me a Boomer cause I use FB lol
Your *TOP 5* should be included as part of the phone sign up process for all *PARENTS* before giving a child a phone.
This job is frightening. I can't even imagine. I encountered the TikTok of Ronnie McNutt shooting himself in the head a year or two back and I was so scarred. This poor woman has to see that all the time for her job. Breaks my heart.
I know someone who's part of the Internet Watch Foundation. Must be so traumatic having to watch this stuff all day
Those really bad videos usually get thru FB . That’s the platform I’ve seen the worst stuff . Especially those cartel ones . I saw a video of someone stabbing someone but it was real . I literally started freaking out crying cause I knew it was real . Also seeing a head getting chopped off . It messed me up for a while . How ppl could stomach doing that is crazy .
I woke up and went on tik tok and the first thing I seen was that live stream of his brains blown out, I was more angry that children would see that disturbing video
Doing her job, I can see how you could just grow to hate humanity. Which in my opinion, it's really sad how messed up this world could be.
I try to avoid horrific things online and I am already jaded and have lost faith in humanity. I stay off all social media except RUclips, which is still just a bunch of ads disguised as information or entertainment.
This person should read Trauma Stewardship: An Everyday Guide to Caring for Self While Caring for Others by Connie Burk and Laura van Dernoot Lipsky. It touches on secondary trauma and the impacts
Social media definitely messed with my mental health , had to stop using them once I realized . I cant even imagine what they go through if this is their job :( .
This was awful to listen to. I will never understand why people use social media like this, or why they do things like this in the first place.
But I have to say that I don't think social media is all bad. I use it alot and I have almost never had a bad experience on it. It depends on how you use it, who you follow and what you search. I just wish people would stop being idiots in general. #muchlove 🇧🇻
I’m crying after her list...😭 that poor father of that boy.
This whole time, I was actually thinking of a video I saw on Facebook 2 or 3 years ago of a kitten getting stomped on, and I think of that occasionally, and the poor thing’s painful meow. I don’t know how it ended up on fb, just able to be watched!
What makes me sicker is that theres the dark web where people are searching, forming groups to see that list
Why isn’t this a law enforcement job????
Honestly why
Well, social media platforms are global and each company has the same policy throughout all countries. Law enforcement is not global, each country manages it's own, there are different laws. Who investigates a video made by a tourist in USA that is not an american citizen? How fast can their nationality be determined so their country can deal with them?
Also, law enforcement does not have the same budget as a multimillion dollar company. Very few countries can afford an AI that blocks these videos or flags them.
Some videos are not illegal, like misoginy, sexism, they're just wrong. What would happen to those?
Why should LE have to endure it? They didn't create nor run the internet. Maybe Yahoo, Google, etc should worry about it.
There was this teen girl who got murdered and the guy slit her throat, posted it on ig, and people kept reposting it. That scarred me so bad compared to all the beheadings, gore accidents vids etc ive seen. It felt way too real and close to home. Crazy having to see that as your job, seeing the accounts who post it, knowing its happening ATM, wondering if they even got justice.
Was the girl named Bianca?
I have a friend who does this for FB and since he started he has migraines. It really is a hard job
This was horrible all the way through... the boys with a young girl... her top 5 list... I almost cried.
It just goes to show how much mental health support & access should be available & not stigmatized. Humans can be so f'd up & everyday folks need an outlet to help compartmentalize that stuff and reflect on it in a healthy way.
27:29 the answer is the old saying, “Misery loves company”. People put these horrific things online because they want others to suffer too. They want to spread the trauma around.
Suddenly I'm reminded of all the snuff films I saw in middle school.
It sounds like she wants symphony for something she chooses to do.
If you're reading these comments lady from the video, thank you for doing the work you do, and on the bright side you may have saved at least 1 child or animal from being abused by reporting these people to the proper authorities. They dont show that side to people IRL.
so important to hear from people like this brave woman. I could not agree with her more about the negligence of parents letting their young children on social media, or just being totally disconnected from their online lives. The things teenagers get into on social media is truly horrific, and it won't end well for anyone once this generation grows up. I've seen teens spending their days "hunting/bullying/baiting pedos" as they call it, while associating themselves with dangerous and/or emotionally unstable adults just because those adults also participate in seeking out people they decide are pedophiles, whether they actually are or not. Needless to say, these teens end up groomed and abused numerous times, but because most of them were already CSA survivors who weren't given proper help to recover and heal, it's completely impossible to convince them to stop and distance themselves from these groups. They're wasting their youth retraumatizing themselves and putting ever more minors in danger with their actions, all because predatory adults encourage them to obsess over their desire for revenge.
And I've seen teens get radicalized into terrible ideology that's been purposefully watered down and disguised as progressive, leading them to distrust the advice and knowledge of therapists and psychologists. They form mobs of literal hundreds in order to dogpile anyone who disagrees with these ideologies, spamming them with threats, suicide baiting, and gore videos, all over petty fandom drama. And their victims are almost always marginalized people and survivors of all kinds of abuse. There's no more nuance or middle-ground, everything is stark black and white and the scariest part is that these kids will swear the sky is green and grass is blue.
we all sat back at the same time when she said number 1
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I wish I was surprised that stuff this bad get posted on TikTok but unfortunately I’m not
I just got hired for this job and start my training next week. I was warned before hand and in my interview they did show me some tweets and videos of what I might be encountering. Yeah I’m very nervous about this job but like she was saying there just isn’t a lot of decent paying jobs out there and this one is paying well. I’m hoping I can last at least a year
Ive recently gotten into a wormhole about mysoginy and sexism and my algorythyms keep recommending me more insane stories and things, and I now see the whole world so much more negatively and am always on gaurd. Can't imagine being forced to see that type of shit 8 hrs a day or so. How much you have to retrain your mind.
When that suicide video was circulating I was so paranoid so be on the internet and I would accidentally see it
...And some of us thinks that our job were the worst.
I know someone who did this for FB, and she would have to dispatch police for crimes. She had to quit, she said the crimes were horrible and it was so hard to watch
It doesn't sound like a bad job on the surface, but I'd be afraid of getting some of the videos she describes. I don't think I would last long and would end up quitting.
I was in a telegram chat where someone started posting videos of people getting shot and child abuse. It was so disturbing, I can’t imagine watching that every day for work
This was a great episode. Even though this is very sad to hear it’s the harsh reality of the internet. These poor people behind these screens have to see this stuff every day. There is no end to this either the internet is out of control. I’m just waiting to see a shitty comment under this video after hearing all of this. 😢
The scary part is I don't want kids to have phones but I was the victim of not having a phone and nearly being kidnapped. If I didn't scream so loud and refuse to get near the man then I would have been taken. If he had just a little bit more guts to get me then he would have had me.
Bc I no longer have faith In Humanity I imagine a lot of disgusting people look for jobs like this just to see this garbage.
I hope those people arent hired! They would not have very good filters to keep this stuff off social media
I thought the same 😞. I hope that they do mental screens at least to filter out some of those garbage people when hiring.
What she says about preventing children from having smartphones/ social media is spot on. My kid already gets upset with me because I don't allow Roblox. He's going to be very upset when he's the kid that isn't allowed a smart phone
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rough episode for sure. I too sort of assumed that algorithms just flagged this kind of stuff at this point. crazy that people have to sift through this and subject themselves to these things. Hope she's able to find a new job soon once more pandemic restrictions are lifted
My friend got ptsd from this job. Her last straw was a video where a young boy was having intercourse with a chicken. Animal abuse hits me hard, I couldn’t do this job.
You should also put a triggerwarning in the description of this video.
this was a really good guest to have on. ♥️ i wish her well. what a job.
I couldn’t do this job. I deleted everything except Instagram because I couldn’t believe what would get posted. Suicides, car crash aftermaths, people stomping on puppies, etc. I couldn’t believe the things that would be approved to be posted. I’m good with my little insta that contains my family members and friends. I usually block strangers
I am absolutely loving this podcast.. each topic is so fascinating.. you are great interviewers.. keep up the great chats!!
They did the thing again. Greg why did you use a train analogy 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️. Eye opening episode. It’s gonna take a while to digest this.