This was an amazing episode. The absolute emotions that came from this discussion has baffled me, saddened me, enraged me, and brought me the greatest hope for the future. Thank you Andy and Hollie!!
She held herself together really well when she relived the stories. Im willing to bet it's really hard for her inside her mind.those experiences ,seeing the things she had seen, meeting the savages and everything in between that was unimaginable... it would be a mixed bag of confusion,anger,guilt, empathy, etc.I don't quite understand the complexity of what's going on,and frankly I don't want to.my 2 daughters have a comfortable and awesome life my girls worry about tablets and food. We are standing on the shoulders of those that deal with the burden of modern evil.Great episode ,thank you ! I
My WWII father grew up in a house without electricity until he was 18. Ice was cut from the lake in the winter and stacked with hay in the cellar to have cooling capabilities throughout the year...he reminded me of this when he heard one of the "iphone-using, latte sipping types" crying about poverty. My father never thought he was living in poverty growing up because he was taught by his TWO PARENTS that he should have gratitude for what he had, not anger over what he didn't. Gratitude is sadly missing in America today.
Also probably helps that many people were in the same situation and as a child it is simply just the normal way of life. The hard work of our previous generations was to make life easier for the next, but the important lessons are being forgotten One problem today is that for many life is very comfortable, and the price of everything is known, but the the worth of it all has become flipped.
Maybe the truth is your father had it better because he had 2 parents and that latte-sipping type is actually worse off cause even though his Generation won WW2 they created and raised the Baby Boomers who then proceeded to tear up the family, create a society where we are all in debt to a few, but get fancy drinks probably filled with poisons created by the Greatest Generation and Dow you created all kinds of chemicals from war that ended up in consumer goods and probably still poising us.
Don't forget that the "Greatest Generation" were the leaders who gave us Vietnam and basically wasted all the good faith in Government they built in WW2. Think we learned our lesson, nope the Boomers get us into Afghanistan and Iraq (Actually a GG & Boomer combo of the Bush father/son combo did that) and here we are 20 years later.
I'd give up A/C and lattes to have two parents like your father did. I'd give up a lot to have my murdered family members back. Don't judge, comparison is the thief of hapiness. Everyone has their struggles my man.
I think this is where Andy really shines, using his experiences in the military to talk about and facilitate conversations about other/adjacent topics. E.g the podcast about human trafficking.
PART ONE- TIMESTAMPS (part two is in comments, did not get upvoted so its down there somewhere) youtube removed my first timestamps comment 🙃🙃 fuck. probably hit some keywords the algorithm didn't like. edit: redone. have a good day everyone! Andy if you read this I think Ed Calderon would be an amazing guest, he has vast knowledge of the cartels in Mexico, as well as Isobel Yeung- she is an excellent reporter who interviewed many ISIS fighters and was in Syria/Iraq quite a bit. ruclips.net/video/Fz_B4SvS48o/видео.html 6:20- Intro to Hollie and start of podcast 8:00- 5MEO-DMT/Ayahuasca and psychedelics, learning about yourself, and the Mexico retreat that Dan Cerrillo/Jason Tuschen/Johnny Walker etc did for psychedelic therapy, and will Andy try psychs? 10:00- Hollie’s experience with psychedelics 11:20- Hollie’s Jocko podcast, and at the end of this episode Andy will want to [REDACTED] to Syria and [REDACTED] to some people over there 11:30- The pure evil you encounter over there 12:30- How does Hollie/(and Andy) explain evil? and Andy’s father used to live in AUS/and his sister was born there, Hollie’s dual citizenship 17:10- Jocko fucked up on the podcast with her! wrong passport color! He shouldn’t have gotten up at 04:30 that morning he was too tired.. 17:40- How Hollie met Jocko and more on the Jocko Podcast with Hollie 19:00- Pop-tarts/NYC/LA, Baptism by Fire, kissing ass in Hollywood/the entertainment industry by 95% of ‘journalists’, more on entertainment journalism 23:00- Andy’s experience in Hollywood, and he hated many people there 27:00- Ballet is fucking savage, it is a tough ass sport, and Hollie’s boarding school she was at for ballet- day in the life/more on living there/her life there 28:00- 20-30 hours of training for ballet weekly- jesus fucking christ that is insane 29:20- Military training has evolved over time, crushing/hazing dudes constantly does not always work and can sometimes be counterproductive 31:20- what does a ballet career look like? 32:30- How did hollie get into ballet?, eventually she got bored in her country/rural area 34:20- Why she headed into journalism, she loved to write as a girl, 36:20- Fox News NYC Building 36:50- NY vs Queensland AUS, Andy would hate living in NYC vs Hollie loved it there, rural vs city living, the magic of NYC is that it is dirty and grungy and smelly in many ways… but no one gives a fuck and you can be anyone you want to be 38:30- Why did she want to go to the middle east to do war journalism? 40:20- How is investigative journalism taught/how are you mentored into it?, and more on sources/more on investigative journalism 42:20- Breaking the ethical laws within journalism/the laws to access information 45:20- Her first conflict/war journalism trips, and Israel-Palestine 46:30- the word ISIL/ISIS being used, when Andy left in 2013 he had not heard the term ISIS before- the narrative was Taliban in AFG creating a safehaven for AQ/AQI. When did that word start being used?- the takeover of Mosul, Iraq 47:50- What is ISIL/ISIS?, offshoot of Al-Qaeda in Iraq/AQ 48:30- being embedded with NATO + US forces in Iraq, highlighting the Iraqis in the partner force FID thing 52:00- Afghanistan trips, and the US forces there did not have a sense of the geopolitics of the region- Andy believes it is due to it not being an emphasis in their training 54:00- Three Cups of Tea by Greg Mortenson, Andy’s 2010 ST3 deployment 56:40- Some of the most beautiful landscapes Andy has ever seen have been in AFG/Iraq (and you’ve all seen his instagram photos of Montana!!) 57:00- Andy’s 2010 deployment was doing VSO’s, was frustrated upon leaving that Team 3 deployment 58:20- How do you crush an ideology?, bombs and bullets are not enough alone 1:00:00- Corruption in the US government and Andy’s QAnon fan (likely) in his instagram comments, perception of corruption can be dangerous 1:02:00- Countries with an ISIS/ISIL presence, approx 10 countries, and more on fringe groups in the US and social media echo chambers 1:05:30- If we have another election where the election is contested and the contestion is contested and the contestion of the contested is contested (etc) then everything we are seeing will be amplified, and we could be headed into some rough waters 1:07:30- voting cards/ID’s for verification in the US 1:09:40- Sovereign citizen police interaction on youtube 1:10:00- Evil, and the need to feel part of a revolution/something bigger than yourself 1:12:00- Some of the levels of oppression/pain in the world, those with a 1000 dollar iPhone and a latte complaining about oppression (in the US), and the family/community centric environment in the Middle East, Yazidi girls’ community 1:15:00- ‘Where is Osama Bin Laden??” lmao 1:16:00- War strips away the bullshit, and Hollie has discovered that the ideal of “Home” does not necessarily mean a location on a map, but it is more people/not a place. Things don’t matter, people do. “The things you own end up owning you.” -Tyler Durden lol and more on minimalism 1:18:30- Lack of expectation in return by the people she visited in the Middle East 1:20:00- The frontlines of war, what did Hollie find interesting about war journalism?, the bullets are the price and the cost of war 1:24:10- What are the frontlines of war like?, Hollie found it strangely calming- and she speaks about the same exact thing Andy mentions a lot, black/white experience and the pure focus he felt. They both miss war everyday. 1:27:00- Why Hollie loved war/conflict journalism 1:28:00- Were you shocked at what you found ISIS capable of?, and the Yazidis were killed and captured by ISIS 1:31:40- The drugs they used to brainwash the little kids- Captagon (aka Fenethylline), Somali’s chewing on cot/Andy might’ve charged a 50 cal on modafinil lol, and the complexity of the ISIS/extremism problem, little kids being attacked, and religion is not the factor of joining often 1:35:10- Afghanistan has been controlled by the warlords for thousands of years 1:35:50- Often the most devout fighters were the ones that had the religious root and Hollie on speaking to an IED engineer 1:37:40- Sunni Shia split, Andy learned about the split after he got out 1:39:30- Authoritarian government and arguments for and against gun control, and gun control in Venezuela (before maduro’s rule and crackdown), and slippery slopes with gun control 1:41:50- What was it like sitting across from an ISIS fighter?, dude who killed 70 people and had his hand cut off, dude was matter of fact about what he had done, why did ISIS fighters join? 1:46:20- Belgium person who joined ISIS- why did he join? and more on his background 1:47:30- TW: Sexual Assault/Rape. Female ISIS fighters, would buy Yazidi women and sell them to be raped by the male ISIS fighters. The female ISIS fighters are just as evil, almost more evil than the actual killing. ISIS would recruit women with mental problems, an experience with a schizophrenic ISIS woman- she would torture/abuse/some times rape these women, and little boys with black ribcages from getting beat so much
You're both so right about how going to developing nations really changes your perspective. When I came back from my first Africa deployment (I later got to experience Afghanistan), I remember thinking that all American Teens should have to go to the poorer parts of Africa (American appreciation time).
Andy. I looked up sovereign citizens vs cops and it was 100% worth it. Although youtube is now recommending it to me a little too much haha. Keep up the good work. Love the podcast all the way from new zealand.
@@riffedwood5597 Did it help?!? Wouldn’t help me, I didn’t get the dancing genes! Felt kind of stupid posting, but you know how family can become so separated and far apart and when Hollie started talking about dancing... Just felt bad I couldn’t do more for my Mom. No funeral or anything. I told the relatives I know, but they are far away.
@@internet_internet You are aware that Psilocybin has been used for almost a decade now for Palliative and Veteran Care, yes? I highly recommend looking into the work of John's Hopkins and the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, or the Beckley Foundation. Ps. Even if it was illegal.... it would be against the jurisprudence of the founding fathers. Hinged upon Nixon's ignorance. ....just saying.
@@Tacit_Tern Obviously no, I’m not aware of how to get it. Would you happen to know how for someone of very low income in Texas who has a DD214 with only 22 days of service on it, & an on-paper PTSD diagnosis from non-military stuff?
It's hard for me to fathom, that a pretty young woman has been in war torn countries dealing with the awful and horrible things that war is . Because when thier is war the gloves are off
Andy, I know this is a very difficult request, but if you could get Maynard James Keenan on here (maybe through Todd Fox?) that would be awesome. I think it would be really interesting for the 2 of you to interact, especially given how Tool was one of your go-tos back in the day. Would also be great to see an interview with John “Shrek” McPhee. He’s a funny dude with a great story and a great perspective. Plus he rags on SEALs a fair amount. I think the back-and-forth would make for a really interesting episode. Thanks as always for the great content and for providing a measured voice of reason when there’s so many people on the extremes!
Psilocybin is a MUST!! I think all men and women for that matter should be asked to do a “trip” or quest before joining the army or any service! Also any President we elect MUST have a psychedelic experience or we shouldn’t elect them
The medical side of it is not tripping, but micro-dosing. Tripping has different effects on people and not always for the better and not always "life altering", so no we shouldn't be asking people to do a "trip" before going into those professions. Everyone who likes to trip says this same thing because they like it but it is not for everyone.
Couldn't quite put my finger on how the energy between them could match up so well, but also very contrasting. Then Andy brought up ballet and I think that's what I was seeing. There are obvious contrasts between them, but the biggest to my soupy brain is posture. 😂
I'm mesmerized by her beauty, heart, courage, and intelligence. To meet a woman like her...wow. If I'm ever lost in the dessert in Australia, I hope she's there to save me with a kiss after passing out from dehydration, and covers the amazing story.
@@corail53 I was just messing around man. I also didn't do it to make fun of her. I did it as a joke of how some guys respond to women. I wouldn't respond to her, or to any woman in this way in person. Don't take it seriously. Although, I still think she's beautiful, has heart, has courage, and is intelligent. Maybe I'll delete it since people might take it too seriously.
I love Andy's joker laugh. Edit: for anyone interested I'm posting a link to a lesser known military podcast featuring Hollie called battle line podcast. I discovered it doing a bit of a deep dive on Hollie after her Mike drop appearance and I'm glad I did. It's pretty good and deserves to be up there with the likes of Jocko, Mike drop and cleared hot. There's a lot of really good episodes with all kinds of guests and want to share it with my fellow "cleared hot heads". Hope y'all enjoy and have a great week. m.ruclips.net/video/ktr_XdNiKms/видео.html
My Dad left me a 1937 Indian that my Grandfather bought from the Indian racing team! Few things I need to figure out to get it running like it was originally supposed to though! It’s a different animal!
Wow, kicking things off with DMT. Yes please. Been there, done that almost 10 years ago. Would probably greatly benefit from doing it again at the moment. To this day, it was the most beneficial & profound individual life-experience that I’ve ever had. Extraordinarily good.
@@lauramorgan27 100% agree. DMT at 17 also helped me to decide to avoid pharmaceuticals at all costs, as I became a forced prescription pill addict who felt like I was slowly dying at the age of 16-17 by the force of my parents and my pediatrician. I was forced & coerced into taking many different psych meds as a teenager when I felt like there was truly nothing actually wrong with me. Those pills genuinely almost killed me. I complained about horrible side effects every single appointment. The doctor’s response would literally be, word for word, “Hmm, well that’s not normal. Maybe you just need a higher dose.” They would prescribe a higher dose, my mom would force me to take the pills, and the doctors never documented a single one of my side effect complaints... Even for years after the age of 18, my parents still forced me to be involved in psychiatry, or else they would threaten to kick me out & make me homeless. Joined the Navy at 19, but that didn’t work out as a result of recruiter lies & paperwork mistakes. Had no choice but to go back home, where my parents forced me to get back into psychiatry. Took years for me to get my parents to fuck off. Have been off off all pharmaceuticals for probably 5 years now with zero issues. The fact that America still drugs it’s own children & citizens is absolutely baffling to me.
Ive talked to conservatives who are still stuck in the 1970s with their drug mentality. As long as they make policies things like this will never get standardized. This is coming from me and I'm not a liberal.4
@@sethbolen8563 not sure of the time stamp but it's when they are talking about the country's stays and that it isn't too far gone. Basically saying everything will be ok it's not too far gone.
Digital voting is not going to go very well. Network security would go to the lowest bidder company - big data think tanks/corps (Palantir and Cambridge Analytica, etc) would have a heyday in info gathering and manipulating voters like they have in the past. It would just be a disaster.
True evil is inflicting pain and suffering on the most innocent person just for the sake of watching them suffer. It’s seeking out the destruction of the individual because you like it and it brings you real joy. The reason why is because in that context it transcends ideology or group think. It’s willing to commit the most heinous acts just because.
@@misternitro1 well, I've been a stay at home mom for 15 years and I suddenly find myself as a widow. We're spread pretty thin and from what I can tell it'll be somewhere in the neighborhood of $600 a month. Not looking great 😕
@@samneedsanap7802 Find a good jui jitsu school and talk to them about your situation, they will probably be willing and happy to help you out and work with you on the money.
My only disagreement here, is the religion comparison. Most of this conflict is 100% because of radical Islam. I don't think religion is low on the reasons, I believe it is the reason! Religious zealots are the reason for legalism and why there are so many "Rules". The people cannot live without religious interference.
This podcast brings in a great crowd! To everyone here have a great week and keep your eyes peeled for the 1 year anniversary of burning down America... stay safe out there! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏼🙏🏼
Your never going to feel “ Ready “ for your first ever trip. Set and setting you have control of. Andy, stop be a sissy and eat some mushrooms. You will not regret it. It will bring a perspective and awareness you didn’t know possible. You get a chance to peak behind the curtain. It’s calling you, Andy. You’ll take the plunge. You know it and we all know it. Eat the mushroom 🍄, Andy!
Religion may not be at the top of the list for everyone joining ISIS (money etc...), however for most of the devoted fighters it is...You also have to look at their message and propaganda...it is truly in line with radical Islam and how Muhammad lived. So trying to look for other motives to muddy the water on what they are trying to push is a bit disingenuous...
14:13 well that escalated quickly... from the question of "What is real evil?" To the actual answer of what evil is... dual citizenship and immigration... "She took our jobs!" -🔥🐻 If this triggered you please relax...this is a joke ... mostly😉
I dont want to sound like a dick, but it was unnecessary to constantly refer to the Hollie's Jocko podcast to the point where you were identifying her answers as identical to the answer she gave on the podcast. Before anyone goes nuts on me, he literally referred one of her answers as a 'dichotomy'. I like the CLEARED HOT PODCAST. Just stick with your style and not a carbon copy of someone else's. Interesting topic nonetheless.
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Damn, who’s this sharp-witted dime piece with piercing eyes and a killer smile talking with Hollie? 😂
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calm down, he has a girlfriend
Bruh...I died..😂
Yeah she's totally hot.......! Her name is Mr. Andy, cooler than you Stumpf!! He's sooooooo dreamy! No Homo!!😁👍
This was an amazing episode. The absolute emotions that came from this discussion has baffled me, saddened me, enraged me, and brought me the greatest hope for the future. Thank you Andy and Hollie!!
God bless this young woman. Real journalism still exists. Great interview Andy
As a fellow Aussie. I am going to be biased and say she is the best guest Andy ever had.
Crocky mate
Lol fair enough
Yes but what about Mike Glover?
@@RoopeFromFinland everyone simps over him
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She held herself together really well when she relived the stories. Im willing to bet it's really hard for her inside her mind.those experiences ,seeing the things she had seen, meeting the savages and everything in between that was unimaginable... it would be a mixed bag of confusion,anger,guilt, empathy, etc.I don't quite understand the complexity of what's going on,and frankly I don't want to.my 2 daughters have a comfortable and awesome life my girls worry about tablets and food. We are standing on the shoulders of those that deal with the burden of modern evil.Great episode ,thank you ! I
Enlightening and heartbreaking conversation at times. I just ordered Hollie’s book.
My WWII father grew up in a house without electricity until he was 18. Ice was cut from the lake in the winter and stacked with hay in the cellar to have cooling capabilities throughout the year...he reminded me of this when he heard one of the "iphone-using, latte sipping types" crying about poverty. My father never thought he was living in poverty growing up because he was taught by his TWO PARENTS that he should have gratitude for what he had, not anger over what he didn't. Gratitude is sadly missing in America today.
Also probably helps that many people were in the same situation and as a child it is simply just the normal way of life. The hard work of our previous generations was to make life easier for the next, but the important lessons are being forgotten
One problem today is that for many life is very comfortable, and the price of everything is known, but the the worth of it all has become flipped.
The Amish neighbors growing up still did this using our irrigation pond to get their ice.
Maybe the truth is your father had it better because he had 2 parents and that latte-sipping type is actually worse off cause even though his Generation won WW2 they created and raised the Baby Boomers who then proceeded to tear up the family, create a society where we are all in debt to a few, but get fancy drinks probably filled with poisons created by the Greatest Generation and Dow you created all kinds of chemicals from war that ended up in consumer goods and probably still poising us.
Don't forget that the "Greatest Generation" were the leaders who gave us Vietnam and basically wasted all the good faith in Government they built in WW2. Think we learned our lesson, nope the Boomers get us into Afghanistan and Iraq (Actually a GG & Boomer combo of the Bush father/son combo did that) and here we are 20 years later.
I'd give up A/C and lattes to have two parents like your father did. I'd give up a lot to have my murdered family members back. Don't judge, comparison is the thief of hapiness. Everyone has their struggles my man.
Watching again. I forgot how adorable and smart she is. Great interview
Great podcast, couldn't stop listening... the bravery of this young lady is impressive!
Nice to have a guest talking about another topic outside of BJJ, SEALS, and Andy's love of Steven Seagal
I think this is where Andy really shines, using his experiences in the military to talk about and facilitate conversations about other/adjacent topics. E.g the podcast about human trafficking.
Take it back.
LMAO!!!!!!!
I dream of the day he invites Seagal on the podcast. Bonus if it is a joint one with Brian Callen.
This wins the comments on this ep
Awesome, entertainment and information with a B.A lady. Another home run episode... Thank you
PART ONE- TIMESTAMPS (part two is in comments, did not get upvoted so its down there somewhere)
youtube removed my first timestamps comment 🙃🙃 fuck. probably hit some keywords the algorithm didn't like. edit: redone.
have a good day everyone! Andy if you read this I think Ed Calderon would be an amazing guest, he has vast knowledge of the cartels in Mexico, as well as Isobel Yeung- she is an excellent reporter who interviewed many ISIS fighters and was in Syria/Iraq quite a bit. ruclips.net/video/Fz_B4SvS48o/видео.html
6:20- Intro to Hollie and start of podcast
8:00- 5MEO-DMT/Ayahuasca and psychedelics, learning about yourself, and the Mexico retreat that Dan Cerrillo/Jason Tuschen/Johnny Walker etc did for psychedelic therapy, and will Andy try psychs?
10:00- Hollie’s experience with psychedelics
11:20- Hollie’s Jocko podcast, and at the end of this episode Andy will want to [REDACTED] to Syria and [REDACTED] to some people over there
11:30- The pure evil you encounter over there
12:30- How does Hollie/(and Andy) explain evil? and Andy’s father used to live in AUS/and his sister was born there, Hollie’s dual citizenship
17:10- Jocko fucked up on the podcast with her! wrong passport color! He shouldn’t have gotten up at 04:30 that morning he was too tired..
17:40- How Hollie met Jocko and more on the Jocko Podcast with Hollie
19:00- Pop-tarts/NYC/LA, Baptism by Fire, kissing ass in Hollywood/the entertainment industry by 95% of ‘journalists’, more on entertainment journalism
23:00- Andy’s experience in Hollywood, and he hated many people there
27:00- Ballet is fucking savage, it is a tough ass sport, and Hollie’s boarding school she was at for ballet- day in the life/more on living there/her life there
28:00- 20-30 hours of training for ballet weekly- jesus fucking christ that is insane
29:20- Military training has evolved over time, crushing/hazing dudes constantly does not always work and can sometimes be counterproductive
31:20- what does a ballet career look like?
32:30- How did hollie get into ballet?, eventually she got bored in her country/rural area
34:20- Why she headed into journalism, she loved to write as a girl,
36:20- Fox News NYC Building
36:50- NY vs Queensland AUS, Andy would hate living in NYC vs Hollie loved it there, rural vs city living, the magic of NYC is that it is dirty and grungy and smelly in many ways… but no one gives a fuck and you can be anyone you want to be
38:30- Why did she want to go to the middle east to do war journalism?
40:20- How is investigative journalism taught/how are you mentored into it?, and more on sources/more on investigative journalism
42:20- Breaking the ethical laws within journalism/the laws to access information
45:20- Her first conflict/war journalism trips, and Israel-Palestine
46:30- the word ISIL/ISIS being used, when Andy left in 2013 he had not heard the term ISIS before- the narrative was Taliban in AFG creating a safehaven for AQ/AQI. When did that word start being used?- the takeover of Mosul, Iraq
47:50- What is ISIL/ISIS?, offshoot of Al-Qaeda in Iraq/AQ
48:30- being embedded with NATO + US forces in Iraq, highlighting the Iraqis in the partner force FID thing
52:00- Afghanistan trips, and the US forces there did not have a sense of the geopolitics of the region- Andy believes it is due to it not being an emphasis in their training
54:00- Three Cups of Tea by Greg Mortenson, Andy’s 2010 ST3 deployment
56:40- Some of the most beautiful landscapes Andy has ever seen have been in AFG/Iraq (and you’ve all seen his instagram photos of Montana!!)
57:00- Andy’s 2010 deployment was doing VSO’s, was frustrated upon leaving that Team 3 deployment
58:20- How do you crush an ideology?, bombs and bullets are not enough alone
1:00:00- Corruption in the US government and Andy’s QAnon fan (likely) in his instagram comments, perception of corruption can be dangerous
1:02:00- Countries with an ISIS/ISIL presence, approx 10 countries, and more on fringe groups in the US and social media echo chambers
1:05:30- If we have another election where the election is contested and the contestion is contested and the contestion of the contested is contested (etc) then everything we are seeing will be amplified, and we could be headed into some rough waters
1:07:30- voting cards/ID’s for verification in the US
1:09:40- Sovereign citizen police interaction on youtube
1:10:00- Evil, and the need to feel part of a revolution/something bigger than yourself
1:12:00- Some of the levels of oppression/pain in the world, those with a 1000 dollar iPhone and a latte complaining about oppression (in the US), and the family/community centric environment in the Middle East, Yazidi girls’ community
1:15:00- ‘Where is Osama Bin Laden??” lmao
1:16:00- War strips away the bullshit, and Hollie has discovered that the ideal of “Home” does not necessarily mean a location on a map, but it is more people/not a place. Things don’t matter, people do. “The things you own end up owning you.” -Tyler Durden lol and more on minimalism
1:18:30- Lack of expectation in return by the people she visited in the Middle East
1:20:00- The frontlines of war, what did Hollie find interesting about war journalism?, the bullets are the price and the cost of war
1:24:10- What are the frontlines of war like?, Hollie found it strangely calming- and she speaks about the same exact thing Andy mentions a lot, black/white experience and the pure focus he felt. They both miss war everyday.
1:27:00- Why Hollie loved war/conflict journalism
1:28:00- Were you shocked at what you found ISIS capable of?, and the Yazidis were killed and captured by ISIS
1:31:40- The drugs they used to brainwash the little kids- Captagon (aka Fenethylline), Somali’s chewing on cot/Andy might’ve charged a 50 cal on modafinil lol, and the complexity of the ISIS/extremism problem, little kids being attacked, and religion is not the factor of joining often
1:35:10- Afghanistan has been controlled by the warlords for thousands of years
1:35:50- Often the most devout fighters were the ones that had the religious root and Hollie on speaking to an IED engineer
1:37:40- Sunni Shia split, Andy learned about the split after he got out
1:39:30- Authoritarian government and arguments for and against gun control, and gun control in Venezuela (before maduro’s rule and crackdown), and slippery slopes with gun control
1:41:50- What was it like sitting across from an ISIS fighter?, dude who killed 70 people and had his hand cut off, dude was matter of fact about what he had done, why did ISIS fighters join?
1:46:20- Belgium person who joined ISIS- why did he join? and more on his background
1:47:30- TW: Sexual Assault/Rape. Female ISIS fighters, would buy Yazidi women and sell them to be raped by the male ISIS fighters. The female ISIS fighters are just as evil, almost more evil than the actual killing. ISIS would recruit women with mental problems, an experience with a schizophrenic ISIS woman- she would torture/abuse/some times rape these women, and little boys with black ribcages from getting beat so much
Great stuff, thank you both.
You're both so right about how going to developing nations really changes your perspective. When I came back from my first Africa deployment (I later got to experience Afghanistan), I remember thinking that all American Teens should have to go to the poorer parts of Africa (American appreciation time).
Andy. I looked up sovereign citizens vs cops and it was 100% worth it. Although youtube is now recommending it to me a little too much haha.
Keep up the good work. Love the podcast all the way from new zealand.
I love your spin and style when interviewing Hollie.
Shoutout to my Mom-she studied dance as well and actually danced with Fred Astaire! She passed away a few months ago and is missed everyday!
Lol my mom referenced me to Fred Astaire when considering dance lessons for my wedding
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@@riffedwood5597 Did it help?!? Wouldn’t help me, I didn’t get the dancing genes! Felt kind of stupid posting, but you know how family can become so separated and far apart and when Hollie started talking about dancing... Just felt bad I couldn’t do more for my Mom. No funeral or anything. I told the relatives I know, but they are far away.
@@charliemike13 sorry to hear about your mom. We actually didn’t find time to go and I still stuck at dancing
Thank you both for such an insightful interview.
Best part of Monday is this podcast
Excellent content. Great conversation!
Wow! Fantastic interview. Thank you.
This was a good episode. Super heavy, but she’s got great stories and can’t wait to hear about her next adventure.
Holly Mceffingawesome! Heard her other podcasts. I will share this with many people and my adult kids. Thank you Andy... and Holly. 💯✌
Listened to her on jocko and Mike drop. Good stuff. Can't wait to listen to Andy's!
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Shrooms legit saved my life after the military.
....if you're thinking about eating a bullet, eat a mushroom instead.
It's better for the head.
Shrooms are the best
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But where & how when you live in a strict illegal state?
@@internet_internet
You are aware that Psilocybin has been used for almost a decade now for Palliative and Veteran Care, yes?
I highly recommend looking into the work of John's Hopkins and the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, or the Beckley Foundation.
Ps. Even if it was illegal.... it would be against the jurisprudence of the founding fathers. Hinged upon Nixon's ignorance.
....just saying.
@@Tacit_Tern
Obviously no, I’m not aware of how to get it.
Would you happen to know how for someone of very low income in Texas who has a DD214 with only 22 days of service on it, & an on-paper PTSD diagnosis from non-military stuff?
Can't say this enough, I love the humility of TRUTH this podcast brings.
It's hard for me to fathom, that a pretty young woman has been in war torn countries dealing with the awful and horrible things that war is . Because when thier is war the gloves are off
What is war: It's pain, it's simple, it's absolute, it's defining, it's refining, it's hate, it's love, it's brotherhood... War is unnecessary.
She’s a gem of a human.
Hollie is from my home town. What a great export!
G'day Andy. Great choice for your podcast mate. Maybe I'm just more excited seeing how she's a fellow Aussie. 👍🇦🇺🕊
Andy, I know this is a very difficult request, but if you could get Maynard James Keenan on here (maybe through Todd Fox?) that would be awesome. I think it would be really interesting for the 2 of you to interact, especially given how Tool was one of your go-tos back in the day. Would also be great to see an interview with John “Shrek” McPhee. He’s a funny dude with a great story and a great perspective. Plus he rags on SEALs a fair amount. I think the back-and-forth would make for a really interesting episode. Thanks as always for the great content and for providing a measured voice of reason when there’s so many people on the extremes!
Excellent episode Andy.
Amazing journalist!
Arguably the best book on the topic
I love alternative medicine options. I'm happy Montana is finally getting on board.
I find it very interesting that her experiences and ideologies align so closely with Andy's.
I’ve done Ayahuasca in the desert and it’s the closest you’ll get to an exorcism.
As some who took Ayahusca in the desert i can confirm all my demons came out and it felt terrible. Lol but it was the best thing ever to happen.
Very excellently said...lol.
She is awesome! Beautiful, smart and that accent!! Complete package for sure.
3 podcast in recent months I’ve heard with Holly as the guest.
Great stuff, little more and different insight with each interview
Wow. She is amazing. 🙏for her next venture.
Psilocybin is a MUST!! I think all men and women for that matter should be asked to do a “trip” or quest before joining the army or any service! Also any President we elect MUST have a psychedelic experience or we shouldn’t elect them
The medical side of it is not tripping, but micro-dosing. Tripping has different effects on people and not always for the better and not always "life altering", so no we shouldn't be asking people to do a "trip" before going into those professions. Everyone who likes to trip says this same thing because they like it but it is not for everyone.
"It's not your fucking khakis" - Tyler Durden
Couldn't quite put my finger on how the energy between them could match up so well, but also very contrasting. Then Andy brought up ballet and I think that's what I was seeing. There are obvious contrasts between them, but the biggest to my soupy brain is posture. 😂
In most small towns I'm familiar with I think you could say people have the connection you're talking about . . .
Brilliant
I'm mesmerized by her beauty, heart, courage, and intelligence. To meet a woman like her...wow. If I'm ever lost in the dessert in Australia, I hope she's there to save me with a kiss after passing out from dehydration, and covers the amazing story.
That's weird man.
@@corail53 I was just messing around man. I also didn't do it to make fun of her. I did it as a joke of how some guys respond to women. I wouldn't respond to her, or to any woman in this way in person. Don't take it seriously. Although, I still think she's beautiful, has heart, has courage, and is intelligent. Maybe I'll delete it since people might take it too seriously.
Good on you Andy.
I love Andy's joker laugh.
Edit: for anyone interested I'm posting a link to a lesser known military podcast featuring Hollie called battle line podcast. I discovered it doing a bit of a deep dive on Hollie after her Mike drop appearance and I'm glad I did. It's pretty good and deserves to be up there with the likes of Jocko, Mike drop and cleared hot. There's a lot of really good episodes with all kinds of guests and want to share it with my fellow "cleared hot heads". Hope y'all enjoy and have a great week.
m.ruclips.net/video/ktr_XdNiKms/видео.html
Him talking about how a country should concentrate on the “cost” of war reminds me of Karl Marlantes. I’d love if he got Karl on.
I feel bad I forgot to use your promo code when ordering LMNT. Now they don't know that you sent me!
I stopped your podcast to go listen. Good stuff.
Holly-- I love New York. Andy- really? I hate that town LOL. The plain spokenness of a battle-hardened frogman turned interviewer LOL
Amazing episode!
Great podcast, thank you
My Dad left me a 1937 Indian that my Grandfather bought from the Indian racing team! Few things I need to figure out to get it running like it was originally supposed to though! It’s a different animal!
@Tom S why do you care? I left two. So what.
I see Andy is interviewing a fellow journalist
Wow, kicking things off with DMT.
Yes please.
Been there, done that almost 10 years ago. Would probably greatly benefit from doing it again at the moment.
To this day, it was the most beneficial & profound individual life-experience that I’ve ever had.
Extraordinarily good.
Yep. Anti-depressants don't even come close. It's absolutely criminal that we are denying people the chance to heal with these insane drug laws.
@@lauramorgan27
100% agree.
DMT at 17 also helped me to decide to avoid pharmaceuticals at all costs, as I became a forced prescription pill addict who felt like I was slowly dying at the age of 16-17 by the force of my parents and my pediatrician. I was forced & coerced into taking many different psych meds as a teenager when I felt like there was truly nothing actually wrong with me. Those pills genuinely almost killed me.
I complained about horrible side effects every single appointment. The doctor’s response would literally be, word for word, “Hmm, well that’s not normal. Maybe you just need a higher dose.”
They would prescribe a higher dose, my mom would force me to take the pills, and the doctors never documented a single one of my side effect complaints...
Even for years after the age of 18, my parents still forced me to be involved in psychiatry, or else they would threaten to kick me out & make me homeless.
Joined the Navy at 19, but that didn’t work out as a result of recruiter lies & paperwork mistakes. Had no choice but to go back home, where my parents forced me to get back into psychiatry. Took years for me to get my parents to fuck off.
Have been off off all pharmaceuticals for probably 5 years now with zero issues.
The fact that America still drugs it’s own children & citizens is absolutely baffling to me.
Ive talked to conservatives who are still stuck in the 1970s with their drug mentality. As long as they make policies things like this will never get standardized. This is coming from me and I'm not a liberal.4
@@JesusChrist2000BC Libertarianism is the American way.
man this was awesome love the skit. grew up on the movie tombstone
When Andy chokes on “I think we will be o-choke-k” ........ shit
when?
@@sethbolen8563 not sure of the time stamp but it's when they are talking about the country's stays and that it isn't too far gone. Basically saying everything will be ok it's not too far gone.
let's get Andy to 100k subs!
I can't believe he doesn't have a million...
She has impeccable posture
Good morning ladies
Is there any fish in that lake?
Very interesting podcast
I watched her on a Jocko podcast. I could almost see the steam coming off his head.
Whys that lol
@@KLP368 I was joking. However, I could tell the stories of those atrocities was getting his juices flowing.
JOCKO RAGE!!!
Digital voting is not going to go very well. Network security would go to the lowest bidder company - big data think tanks/corps (Palantir and Cambridge Analytica, etc) would have a heyday in info gathering and manipulating voters like they have in the past. It would just be a disaster.
They'll Dispatch Children Even Yours With No Thought.... Smoke Em 🚬.
Good morning 🙏
Good morning all! Never been this early
Looking forward for this banger.
Are all these podcasts essentially book ads?....
True evil is inflicting pain and suffering on the most innocent person just for the sake of watching them suffer. It’s seeking out the destruction of the individual because you like it and it brings you real joy. The reason why is because in that context it transcends ideology or group think. It’s willing to commit the most heinous acts just because.
Gorgeous, and that accent wow. Hollie is nice too.
Wow , this was great. Really makes you put all your own personal bullshit in perspective.
Morning y'all! Last 2 days of school here in the deep south. I think I'm gonna put all 3 of these kids in jujitsu this summer. If I can afford it.
You cant afford not to
@@misternitro1 well, I've been a stay at home mom for 15 years and I suddenly find myself as a widow. We're spread pretty thin and from what I can tell it'll be somewhere in the neighborhood of $600 a month. Not looking great 😕
@Tom S I'm working on it. 36 days in
@@samneedsanap7802 Find a good jui jitsu school and talk to them about your situation, they will probably be willing and happy to help you out and work with you on the money.
Is this your Facebook page? I'm confused
Was this chick already on the podcast? Or was that a different Aussie reporter
Same aussie chick, different door kicker.
Gotcha, thanks guys
@@enjoyingthedecline1801, winner best comment 👊🏼
Hey, does anyone know in which episode of Jocko podcast she was a guest?
Oh, ok, nevermind :) He said it was ep.271
My only disagreement here, is the religion comparison. Most of this conflict is 100% because of radical Islam. I don't think religion is low on the reasons, I believe it is the reason! Religious zealots are the reason for legalism and why there are so many "Rules". The people cannot live without religious interference.
Religion has been the cause of more wars than even land grabs and commodities.
This podcast brings in a great crowd! To everyone here have a great week and keep your eyes peeled for the 1 year anniversary of burning down America... stay safe out there!
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Andy we need a cam under the desk that’s pointed on you, in this episode. 😂
@Tom S 😆😆
Lets GO!!!
I really hope you asked her out, Andy. She’s terrific! You guys would be great together, in my humble opinion lol.
Sans is french, not dutch
Yeah! And there is no such thing as a rocket surgeon- I looked it up!
@@MichaelBubbNYC 🤣
I loved her in Good Will Hunting!
Japan, Germany, Italy, Korea....us forces did ok there
"buying women at a market".. holy crap.. everyone who's complaining about shit in 1st world countries should just let that sink in...
Algorithm helped!!
Your never going to feel “ Ready “ for your first ever trip. Set and setting you have control of. Andy, stop be a sissy and eat some mushrooms. You will not regret it. It will bring a perspective and awareness you didn’t know possible. You get a chance to peak behind the curtain. It’s calling you, Andy. You’ll take the plunge. You know it and we all know it. Eat the mushroom 🍄, Andy!
1:01:32 says all one needs to know. Were all seeing what it looks like these day's
wow
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
Until sin nature is eliminated by God, war will never end.
Religion may not be at the top of the list for everyone joining ISIS (money etc...), however for most of the devoted fighters it is...You also have to look at their message and propaganda...it is truly in line with radical Islam and how Muhammad lived. So trying to look for other motives to muddy the water on what they are trying to push is a bit disingenuous...
Ok
She is such a gd smokeshow. She seems cool as hell too.
Plenty of good looking people in the world. The drive and passion for life is what makes for next level wow factor in my opinion
Faak! Ok I’m up
14:13 well that escalated quickly... from the question of "What is real evil?" To the actual answer of what evil is... dual citizenship and immigration... "She took our jobs!"
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If this triggered you please relax...this is a joke
... mostly😉
She terk er jeeerbs!!!!
I dont want to sound like a dick, but it was unnecessary to constantly refer to the Hollie's Jocko podcast to the point where you were identifying her answers as identical to the answer she gave on the podcast.
Before anyone goes nuts on me, he literally referred one of her answers as a 'dichotomy'.
I like the CLEARED HOT PODCAST. Just stick with your style and not a carbon copy of someone else's.
Interesting topic nonetheless.
Quorn
U.S. Passport is Blue.