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Jesus Christ & Nanotechnology | James Tour at Texas A&M
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2015
- Professor James Tour shares his Christian faith journey and the impact it has on his career in the field of nanotechnology. | Texas A&M University, 2015 | Explore more at www.veritas.org.
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Dr James Tour, my son attends Texas A&M University and I just came across your video and I want to encourage you to keep fighting the good fight, you are not alone! God bless you and your family and your works!
*Dr. Tour is serving the Lord in the university setting. What an accomplishment!*
MsBluebird777 yes that is soooo amazing!
The speculations of this man go against all we have learned
about the natural world. Either overthrow everything we think we have learned
about modern physics, or distrust the stew of religious accounts/unreliable
testimony/wishful thinking that makes people believe in the possibility of life
after death. It’s not a difficult decision, as scientific theory-choice goes.
Dan Delgado
Truth is always amazing. YES
Rob Davis
We disagree, again. That’s just life. ☮️
You do not predominantly disagree with me, but with every physicist out there. In particular, with one of the
conclusions from a model, which is proven beyond any reasonable doubt. That’s
not live in general, that’s the life you choose. Good luck with that.
What an elegant and well-balanced presentation of one’s story. Dr Tour did a holistic discussion without putting down any of the mundane isms and let the Lord percolate through his speech. I am a Trauma & Orthopaedic surgeon, have not had the opportunity to be long hours in the lab……but the little science I know helps me worship my God. God bless Dr Tour and the calling on his life.
This brought tears to my eyes! Jesus is king🙌
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I am a simple man and humble knowing I can only understand a small portion of Dr. Tour’s thoughts, ambition and drive. The one thing I can say I share with Dr. Tour is Faith in Christ. I am a police officer and I often have allowed myself to be discouraged by the more human elements I am exposed to in my everyday work and criticism in our society. When I learned of Dr. Tour and his journey especially compelling being Jewish from Brooklyn, I strive to look into my own heart and my anger is starting to transform into something better. So along with all the scientific accomplishments, degrees and titles, respect and continuing success, add yet another re-energized inspired spirit to that list. Christ may be the conductor in that element but Dr. Tour is the vehicle or tool if you will and I am thankful.
Thank you for your service, sir, to both God and weaker humans. There are far more 'good' LEOs than 'bad.' May Jesus give you strength and wisdom in your profession.
@@jakemay637 Thank you, I retired this year and I wish blessings on your house.
Dr Tour, your insights and stand against godless perspectives in 'so called' science warms my heart. Appreciate your testimony on the wonder of JESUS. You have found that amazing narrow road - the views on all sides are indescribable - and the life eternal!
Xerox do
Magnificent talk in so many ways. Hallelujah!
A fantastic brilliant man with a great faith!!
To say this lecture was excellent would be a huge understatement !! :)
An excellent lecture in “how to convince people with no scientific education of bonkers Christian propaganda”.
Maybe somebody will take up his offer someday?
ruclips.net/video/zU7Lww-sBPg/видео.html
Another great video of his. The Origin of the Mystery of Life.
FakeItalianoII I have never heard of anyone state any errors, only attack his beliefs and scoff with nonsense blurbs and emoji’s.
@@derhafi I love you no matter what! And will pray that Jesus comes knocking on the door of your heart every day for the rest of your life so you may spend eternity with Him
The story of Dr James Tour proves the verse: the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
So, you say wisdom begins with the fear of an unfalsifiable concept….Sounds more like the
beginning of irrationality to me.
It’s like saying that: “Wisdom begins with the fear of elves.” This is how stupid that
sounds.
Why should we fear a being who is touted to be unendingly benevolent? That makes NO sense.
@David S - Seems YOU are the Godless trash by being insulting and rejecting one of God's children. You are a hateful person and I am questioning those who are contradictory. Perhaps that is how Satan deceives you, to be afraid of God and to seek him instead and you being none the wiser.
God is love and NOT to be feared. Revered and exalted yes, not feared.
@David S "Godless trash" really? Is that the kindness and eloquence that comes when one is under the delusion to have the creator of the universe on his side?
Sounds more like the rambling of a person insecure in his own beliefs. Should not be hard to provide solid evidence if for your conviction.... Got some?
@@derhafi
Why are materialist so bloody rude and condescending? What is it that makes them so viciously disagreeable? You must be a ton of fun at parties.
He is preaching it so hard! The spirit of God in me is so overjoyed to hear this man testify of the miracle of regeneration and salvation.
This speaker, humble but brilliant, is both a scientist and man of God, is my hero, my model, my human Idol. Praise God! He is mightily being used by God for His Glory!
Alpha Chaser indeed. Humble AND brilliant. Of course the two go together since hubris is an impediment to discovery and truth.
Friend I see what you mean and feel the same about Dr. Tour. But please dont make an idol out of him serve God! Look at the first and second commandments.
YourHeinness, I think she is using a metaphor not idolizing like a god
If Jesus is indeed the Lord, like I believe He is, Dr. Tour is definitely used by God. In that case, thinking that he is not used by God, is anything but harmless; but if you are reading this that means there is still a possibility to get saved.
Perhaps not too many people know that Mr. Tour is a member of the 50 most distinguished scientists in the world! He is an outspoken Christian and beliver In God's creation of the universe! Hallelujah!
Amazing info. Amazing Testimony!
Thank you for update. Can't imagine what has transpired the 8 years since this forum.
What an amazing man. Thank you Doc you have really done some good for me and I am quite sure many others. Your testimony is truly remarkable. Thank you and may God continue to bless you and your family.
I have been listening to videos of James Tour - this one has inspired me and challenged me massively. I thank God for this man and his faith!!!
Simply wonderful!
Our hearts and blessings are with Dr. James Tour and may all the glory be to God!
James Tour is absolutely incredible and stunning in how he relates science to faith. Exceedingly brilliant mind and a beautifully wonderous spiritual mind married together in a single human being. Thank you Veritas and thank you Dr. Tour !
He's an embarrassing, lying fanatic.
Awesome! The godly man is the most powerful force on the planet. (Dr. Tour's One for Israel testimony is the most moving.)
I just love this guy.
Wow. So powerful! I can’t thank you enough for sharing.
What a lecture, Well done Dr.Tour we need fierce people of faith to challenge worldly ways.
God bless this soldier of His!!
This guy has commitment, capacity and compassion - respect!
With what is being written about today regarding nanotechnology, RNA and the changes to our DNA...why is no one is talking about it.
Absolutely brilliant and inspiring.
I appreciate his practical applications of scripture. Practical uses of wisdom of scripture is largely responsible for my faith!
I was saved 6 yrs earlier...in Nov 1971..,& I didn't have 1/ 2 the info' it sounds like you had....muy prof, in bible college began to explain what salvation was & how to receive..this " so great salvation.."Heb.2:3.... I said to the guy next to me.." my stars I did that 2 yrs ago...& nobody explained it to me...." yet I was saved for the very reason Mr James Tour is explaining...God declared to my heart...they hi had become a child of God thru Christ...Acts 16:31.... see Rom.8:14-17(V16)...as to why...!!!oh by the way Mr James Tour thx for that great & honest testimony for our Lord& Saviour...Christianity needs brilliant minds such as yaself ......like Douglas Axe....Stephen Meyer...John Lennox....Mike Behe ...& countless others God has raised up in such a time as....this....by the way there are no atheists...!!!!!!..." that when they KNEW God.....they glorified Him....NOT as God...neither were thankful....but became..,VAIN ( useless) in their imaginations....( delusions) & their FOOLISH..heart was darkened..." Rom.1:21...." professing themselves to be wise.....they became.....FOOLS" Rom.1:22 so.....they,re not atheists...just idiots suppressing what they...KNOW to be true....& they,re miserable....for straining @ gnats & swallowing camels....ha ha
To God be the glory and praise for such a man as Dr. Tour. His impactful testimony and service for The Kingdom of God need to be spread widely for all to appreciate The Power of our Lord Jesus Christ to transform and grant supernatural intelligence to accomplish great things.
I Love you Sir..You are wonderful..I couldn't stop my tears rolling out. Glory to God. Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life..there is no other way, not our deeds, nothing we can do, our deeds are filthy rags and without his sacrifice there is no way we could have been part of his eternal plans....
thats messed up.
so no matter how much good i do in this world if i dont believe in jesus, im doomed?
I am speechless!!!!
Thank you for your encouragement. Your comments remind me how close Jesus is to us.
Dr tour thank you for you for your witness and sharing your testimony God bless you
I was completely fascinated by your talk.
On the reply that, “You shouldn’t say evolution is wrong until you have something to replace it with,” let me put this to bed with an analogy.
You suspect that you may be adopted. You get a blood test and find out the blood type of yourself and the two people who have claimed to be your parents. You examine blood type possibilities and find out there is no way either of them could be your parent. You confront them. If they replied, “You cannot call us liars based on refuting it with blood types. First you have to find your supposed real parents. Otherwise you have to accept that we are your biological parents as we told you.”
See. Nonsense. Evolution as it has been presented is wrong. Period. There may be a progression of lifeforms throughput the history of life, but it does not work through natural selection and random mutation over time. Some other innovative, creative, cognitive application is interjecting itself into biological processes. It appears to be tied to the epigentic information apart from the DNA code, with software dictating coded instructions throughout the organism throughout its lifetime, with body plan information, coded information for instincts (turtles and salmon returning to their spawning points) and other mechanisms.
These functions will all require some cognitive, problem solving, intellectual aspects. Thus, Mind is involved, not just matter.
And as Dawkins once said that “Darwin made it intellectually satisfying to be an atheist”, we must now state that atheism is no longer intellectually satisfying. It fails to account for the evidence.
This progression may be completely illusory. From simple to complex is the crux of the lie. In my opinion, there is only one way to build life, being a form with 5 fingers, 2 lower arm bones, and 1 upper arm bone. Just because God uses a similar pattern doesn't mean the species are related morphologically, it means there is only one way to build life on Earth and it's environment. There was a plan. My guess is we are in a hyper-quantum energy computer simulation with at least one designer.
@@CandidDate was my thoughts too
It is not that easy:) Evolution by itself(including Beginnings)is nonsence! But God creating parameters for"wise energy/materia/etc. " and pouring information into it and allowing fredom(chance within the laws) is possible:) Otherwise you need to accout for every "nonbeaitiful" nose some people have,etc.:)))
You are completely ignoring how science works. Unfortunately for you and contrary to your comment, that's not how it works
@@CandidDate "Just because God uses.."
Begging the question fallacy. Why does God use the same Gene's to build fins and the limb structures you just mentioned? Why is an omnipotent being constrained or.limited in any way?
Praise the Lord 😀😀😀
There was no death before sin. Dr. Tour is awesome. Peace
Jesus Christ is in this man..there is no doubt about that. The Holy Spirit is flowing out of this man. I love you Dr James because I love the Jesus in you. He is the Messiah!!!
"Jesus Christ is in this man..there is no doubt about that" Let me assure you, there is in fact lots and lots of justified doubt about that.
Well done!!!! Learned so much from you!!!! God bless you!!!
"I don't understand evolution therefore god" - James Tour
"I wish I knew what you know...". What a humble, nice remark of an ambition that exists in many, and the driving force behind a great deal of human effort. We would certainly grow exponentially in appreciation of God, and I wonder if those who knowing much and can't seem to appreciate God necessarily end up worshiping something/someone else, because it is just an unavoidable response (i.e. worshipping nature, man, science, and so on). That would imply a choice.
Awesome!!! Bless ya, James Tour!!
WHAT A WARRIOR!
BRILLIANT ! Thank You
Super super
Amazing testimony. Thanks
James can shut down any follow the science pomposity. Thank you Lord.
No, he can't. He doesn't work in the branches of science he lies about and sneers at.
I hade the same experience but under different circumstances. I was not alone that night while no human was with me.
Bacteria. They are everywhere!
Rob Davis I cant argue with that haha
Very, very, very good God bless you
Speaking of mosquitos, did you know that the proboscis they use for sucking blood is the same design on both males and females, but only the female actually sucks blood. The male uses his to get sap from vascular plant stems.
The female needs the extra nutrients likely for developing her eggs. But the point I am making is that in a world where sin had not entered, perhaps the animal kingdom was able to survive off of the plants. Scripture suggests that this is the case in Eden and that the environment wasnt fluctuating in seasons as we see today. Possibly providing more sustenance throughout the year for all creatures. Even those seemingly designed for nature, red in tooth and claw.
Plants are still living things, very much alive. They are probably in the most unaware state which makes it easier to use them against their consent, if were able to give any.
As Abraham Lincoln once3 said, "For those who like this sort of thing, it's the sort of thing they'll like."
Good day from Singapore! Wish you'd have a wonderful week =)
What powerful preaching! God bless you!
So you agree it's not science then....good!
Wonderful man of God
What kind of God Nature reveals, Nature shows us a God of Might, Intelligence and intricate detail, a God of order and Beauty, A God who controls powerful forces. That is general revelation. Through special revelation of the Bible and Jesus Christ we learn of God's Love for humanity. Quote John 17 :26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the Love you have for me may be in them and I myself may be in them .God loves us all, diligently seek Him with all your heart and soul and you will find Him .And you will have unbelievable peace Amen.
Repentance is a changing of mind. Change your mind from works based lordship salvation, and turn to Jesus as the Messiah, who has given us the free gift of salvation.
I want Dr Tour on Joe Rogan
Dr. Tour as scientist, if you haven’t already, please thoroughly investigate the shroud of Turin. It seems to me to be an amazing material piece of the resurrection that goes with the scriptural witness.
BS
Dr. tour would not be allowed to speak at most public and private universities in 2019. The students would riot and tear down the campus as well as the surrounding commercial properties.
And for god reasons: he is trough and through dishonest.
He lives in Texas?!! God bless Texas! 🇮🇱🇺🇸🙌🏻
Love this, very true ❤
1st Thessalonians 5:21 speaking of prophesies but also applies to everything we hear around us "test everything; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil". And also Jon 5:39. Christianity commands us to ask questions and investigate because you are asking God Himself in the uniqueness of what Jesus brought which is A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD by way of evidence based faith compared to other beliefs where there are minimal questions allowed, if any, blind faith. Your questions must not be mocking and wanting answers according to what you want to hear but seeking Truth. GOD BLESS
Love the Lord with all your heart, mind and soul thus Jesus Christ is ALL MIGHTY GOD. No matter how you squirm argue about it because your unbelief, bible made a claim that every knee shall bow to Lord Jesus Christ in the end you if you are not there then that means that you are a rebellious one and walk yourself down to hell at your free will.
If the geologic column is a legit way to age the planet I wonder how that fits with the empirical data of deposition, erosion and uplift.
Measuring the areas today with the absolute least erosion and slowest uplift applied to the earth's entire surface would have erased said column 100+ times. And that's being way too generous regarding the speed at which any ancient bones would be erased. Why are there still fossils which are said to be 10s of millions of years old? Utterly impossible. I guess the key to the past is known from jack nuts about the present and measurable data we can verify over and over again.
Thanks!
This Guy is on the ball with finding God, his faith is mountainous, I’ve be been studying the chemistry and physics behind the universe and can only be the product of a loving creator and he is perfect in all his activities and the universe and life testily and clarify that God is Almighty, and one who has all the elements at his disposal also testifys his inability to lie and therefore our trust in him should be magnified regarding END TIMES PROPHECIES and the new world .
John 17:3
1 Titus v2
Wow!
A question came to me.... How have the rest of these scientists not taken him out yet?? Answer.. God Loves Him!
He is, for good reasons just not taken serious
in that regard. Given that he does no scientific work on the matter.
I love this guy
Things invented by humans speak to the concept that a mind is required.
Science is a belief just like religion. The followers make them fight but in fact, they love each other.
"Science is a belief just like religion."
Science is a systematically, emperical based method to seperate truth from fiction.....religion is faith based make belief.
How wonderful is our God
Wow, glory to God!
To say "nobody dies for a lie" is a misnomer. Dr. Tour should say "nobody WILLING dies for a lie." Good examples would be the young men that died in Vietnam since that war was started with a lie, along with every war since 9/11 since that was also a lie.
thank you for this testimony, Jesus is King !! prais the lord
Thank you for being a man of God but the a human, before sin, is perfect in every form. Look in Genius’s how much time our Lord took to create us
I love this man and his boldness regarding his love for our Creator. However, why has he stopped keeping the memorial of creation, i.e the Sabbath, for the venerable day of the Sun, i.e the first day of the week.?
Love this talk, so funny - who knew synthetic organic chemists could be so funny?
Jimmy from the Bronx.
What a great man!!
Rather what a GREAT GOD that put this guy in our lives.
YourHeinness He can be both👍 but not “rather” in my opinion.
I always thought macro evolution was the emperor who had no clothes. This just shows that there are brilliant men , really brilliant men who have felt and experienced the deep truth of Christ.
As I study these issues further it is amazing how people draw the same conclusions through their own independent study, irrespective of one another. I agree with you whole-heartedly whiteliketar. I recently, at the request of a friend viewed and studied over 80 transitional fossils. These fossils all appeared to be just like one of the two species they supposedly connecting. I found there was just a slight variation from one to the other which could have been explained by micro-evolution even by a layman science mind. I then asked him for some examples of increased information in the genome across species and chemical properties that allowed for these changes, he became upset and told me to read a book that was about 10000 pages long.
I proceeded to ask this question why is it so easy to give a micro-evolutionary explanation, such as green and brown beetles on a tree and birds preying on the green beetles and after time there are a greater number of brown shelled beetles. However when asking for a simple explanation of macro-evolution the person you speak with gets flustered and angry and directs you to do so much reading that anyone living a normal life would never be able to complete it.
This actually reminds me of the Pharoah, no matter what God did he refused to bend his will to that of God, and we see the same thing in modern science. There are so many astronomically improbable events that had to occur with no explanation for life to exist but people dismiss it as chance and then ask for evidence to the contrary. Just mind blowing!
david bobalik well said. You can see these things which is refreshing.
Evolution and your god's existence have nothing to do with each other
@@davidbobalik7514 Do you think therapsids are transitional between earlier amniote synapsids and mammals? Iow Why wouldn't a transitional fossil closely resemble it's two most closely related classes?if it didn't then it wouldn't be a transitional fossil.
Patrick Dennis you need to quit confusing yourself with fossil interpretation - most of the interpretation is filtered through biased atheism to begin with so quit babbling for crying out loud. There is not a single creature we can point to today where an obvious transition is taking place. Now quit having he blood rush to your head as you begin to furiously give examples of creatures that have already being created like amphibians . The only lone example you can give is in your imagination ....it’s the only place where transitionals thrive.
closed captions, please
I was an animal science major and only wish I had teachers like him.
teachers with no scientific integrety who lie whenever science is in odds with their belief in a magical god?
@@derhafi No, he said teachers like him.
Love your passion and bold approach to stand for the truth. Sick of these weak-minded evolutionists promoting with no sincere scientific insight, but rather make foolish assumptions based on antiquated and almost child like fantastical concepts that have no place in a real scientific arena. Dr. Tour. I look forward to fellowshipping with you down the road.
"promoting with no sincere scientific insight, but rather make foolish assumptions based on antiquated and almost child like fantastical concepts" Hahaha
Everything was made by the all powerful being with no demonstrable correaltion with reality and I believe this because an ancient book full of faory tales says so.....Yes, go with that! It's not child like, fantastical but all pure science....Jimmy here believes:
"Every word in this book is true, every word,. Let everything else be a lie, this book is true! This book is true, this was a prophecy and it’s just piled upon fact upon fact, evidence upon evidence. How much more would you like to understand that this book is true? To bow before God and say: Lord thank you for your work…every word in the Bible is true!”
James Tour - at a “lecture” Huston first Baptist church 2019
That's why he lies when science contradicts his faith based nonsese.
You are free to do whatever you want.
You are also free to enjoy it suffer the consequences of your free choices.
Cuz there are always consequences.
If I as the Head of my family has insisted on family devotions, I might have saved my wife from the mental illness that lead to our divorce.
But though I knew about being the Head of my home, my generation was taught your wife had to agree with anything you thought you ought to do together. That you must never MAKE HER do it; make her OBEY you.
So much wisdom comes so late because it comes from experience and not from teaching.
But why is that so?
Because so often the fruit practicing wisdom is NOT experiencing bad things. So the Good you experience by following taught wisdom is not appreciated until much later.
We know things mostly by contrast.
Adam and Eve knew nothing about death, nothing about hunger, pain, and sorrow. So they didn't (couldn't?) appreciate the Life, the Health, the Happiness they had.
Not until they sinned. But then it was too late to take it back. Like my failure to have a family altar. I now know from experience the likely positive results. So I'll start now and see for myself it's effect on my life with my second and last wife.
You forgot about the picnic thinking about how they see & think & remember, then you forget to eat, 😂.
Super!
I'm reminded of St. Francis: What's your looking for is what is looking.
I know that I don't know, yet I believe because of life it self.
One can ask questions in science and say one does not believe this and believes that. Just not about evolution and God. Evolution is a holy cow with Charles Darwin their Mohammed. Creation by God is something you are not allowed to believe in. Except for these two matters you can ask, doubt and believe all you want. Strange, isn't it?
Evolution is backed by hard evidence, dumbass. God is backed by nothing but ancient texts that can't even be confirmed / verified. LMFAO @ comparing a scientist to a mythological religious figure from the past. Grow up.
talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc
Split pipes and Texas unexpected weather. Dr Tour was prophetic
It is obvious how a nanotechnologist can make the jump from atheism to intelligent design. My question is how does one who becomes convinced of intelligent design make the jump to the conclusion: 'Jesus Christ is the Designer & the Bible is His word'? I mean if any Darwinist were to have the notion of evolution totally destroyed & creation upheld, that alone would not be sufficient to convince them of the Biblical gospel, but at best would leave them a deist. Intelligent design can at best leave you a deist but that alone cannot lead such a one to Christ without taking a further leap of faith. One still must believe that the designer is One not many and that Designer still interacts with His creation in supernatural ways He did not just set it in motion and lets it whirr or to run down nor did He choose to use intermediate creators such as angels or aliens. One still must believe that the Creator created mankind, the fall of mankind, the final judgment of mankind, the impossibility of self redemption & The deity who became man to Redeem mankind through His passion & His resurrection from the dead & ascension into Heaven. Hopefully also eternal security is part of the belief also. Yes perhaps the design can lead you to believe in a Creator or creators but then you still have more leaps of faith to get you saved.
Soteriology101 I would encourage you to check out some of William Lane Craig, Ravi Zacharias, Frank Turek and other apologists who address these very questions. The step from theist to Christian is very easy to make.
Soteriology101 no one said the path is easy.
I'd suggest you watch the debate between William Lane Craig and Sean Caroll and realize how much of a fraud Craig is.
Any integer person who bothers to study
ID and its evolution from earlier and more overtly religious forms of
creationism will find it an unscientific, faith-based theory ultimately resting
on the doctrines of fundamentalist Christianity.
Stick to that, be honest and call it
Faith. To the contrary, trying to underpin your believes in the supernatural by
scientific methods is not honest at all.
That requires one to lie about,
redefine and distort terms like “Rationality”, “Science”,
“Scientific Consensus”, “Scientific Method “Evidence” and “Fact”. It further
requires being ignorant of the staggering amount of evidence, which renders the
supernatural as what it, is, wishful thinking. It depends on smears against the
scientific community with false claims of its supposed autocratic nature.
Faith is the quality of believing something that is not true. Faith is without any value whatsoever.
Wow
Adam and Eve existence was true because God the creator made them, we weren’t there but if we believe if God, we must believe it.
And this notion, which is on odds with nature, does
not provoke a trace of scepticism in you?
*Dr James Tour at it again, if you are a theistic evolutionist, you must watch this*
This is referring to Darwinists, which I am not.
Or, just an idea, you can read some books or attend some lectures written by people who are
actual specialists on that subject.
Rob Davis you could and can but it’s not a requirement that one has to be a specialist on a subject to have an argument for or against something. And it doesn’t mean you need credentials to speak on something. Debate a person on their arguments if it is a sound argument or not.
@@derhafi Unfortunately for your fallacious assertion, one doesn't have to be a "specialist" on a subject to make correct statements about that subject and, likewise, being a "specialist" on a subject does not mean one is making correct statements on that subject.
@@michaelwill7811Well, those are fair points, broadly as you put them.
However it is the cast that Tour does neither now, nor care about the validity of his statements. The most scientific thing he does, is to make sure, not to take on the burden of prove and smuggle in some Jesus. That’s predominantly due to the fact that he is a religious fanatic with no integrity who solely uses his scepticism when it suits his bias. This man is a disgrace to the scientific community.
If I accept his religious experience as real on what basis can I reject every other similar experiences by the thousands of nonchristian experiences that are just as honestly felt? The devotees of the Mayan gods seemed just as real . We're their blood sacrifices so different from those depicted in the Bible?
SUPER !
With your scientific knowledge, I would love for you to study the images of the resurection as recorded on the Shroud of Turin and learn from your perspective!
When it comes to Jesus and nanotechnology that's just the start of transhumanism and Armageddon six six sixes here and Jesus doesn't like us being transhuman he likes us being human and walking in the spirit so when it comes in nanotechnology if it's put in the right perspective it's okay but I know how man likes to abuse technology 35 years in the medical field I see it
All this started when Ronald Fisher wrote a book, The Genetically Theory of Natural Selection . As Darwinism was on it's death bed in the 1950's. Then Fisher takes Mendel's work on genetics. Used it to give Darwinism some credibility. Then they used that book. To get Darwinism into the class room. But not once can you get Darwinist to use Darwin's own work. It's called Scientific Pretension. It looked Scientific. Yet it's Mendelian Genetics they use. They just stick Darwin face on one page. Give him one page on his theory.. Then using slight of hand. Switch to Mendel's work on Genetics for the rest of your life. It's Deception they used to indoctrinate people.
This is why I'm agitated at Darwinist Claims. They should be praising the Father of Genetics.Mendel. But they can't. He happened to be a Monk. Believed in some Creator. Outside Agency. God that was directing it! David Berlinski has the same issues with Darwinist claims....
This seems like a cynical approach to history. Darwin presented an hypothesis of which the general story behind it was true even if Darwin was unable to understand it. The theory explodes later with the discovery of DNA and genetics. Science moves forward and the newest information is of more focus then incomplete theories of the past. Darwinian evolution was strengthened by these later discoveries so I don't see the slight of hand you refer to.
@@blusheep2 What part of Darwin's Hypotheses is true..I want the Mechanism that allows it. It better be Testable. Observable. Repeatable. ie the Scientific Method. It has to show the Universe has the traits to create Organic Matter from Non Organic Materials found in the Universe. Using only the four fundamental forces found in nature. So no Time. Chance. Random. As they are not physical forces that cause anything to happen. It also better be a purely Materialistic explanation that one can test. As it's been 80 years. Not any progress has been made using Darwinism. It's all Mendel's work we teach...
You better not bring up Mendelian Genetics once. And the second you brought up DNA and Genetics. You lost the argument. As that is Genetics at the Cellular level. As the cell Nucleolus is well protected from any changes you try an attempt. As it will abort and die. At best be born with defects.
By the way. I'm not religious. I just hate people that use Science to make shit up. Even worse as cover to practice being Bigots. It gives Scientist a bad name when caught doing it. It was Dawkin that made me take a closer look. He was making non Scientific Statements. That even I noticed. Has been all his life. As he just has issues with Christians and God. Those are the domain of Metaphysics.
And you're damn right I seem cynical. I visit a Science Museum showing Ape to Humans. As if it was fact. I would laugh in your face so hard. As not even Doctors can transplant their parts to humans. They tried it. The people died. Why you ask? Because the Cell Nucleolus is not designed for that shit. Hell you can't even do a blood transfusion from the same Species to another. That should tip people off. As humans have more in common with Mice. Same for drilling down into the Nucleolus. The more we find engineering on a scale that even humans can't match in the most advanced factories.... It's just marvelous at the Nano scale. All before humans invented the wheel and discovered fire..
Good Luck...
@@MasterChief-sl9ro
Im not against certain elements of your response. I to am irritated when I file through a museum that shows ape to man as fact. I do not have a problem if they suggest that the best explanation is that these different fossils are related but when presented as fact I am irritated.
I have a healthy mistrust for scientists as they are human as well but if you suggest that there isn't evidence for evolution because abiogenesis is unexplained then I part with your cynicism. I find there to be challenges with the naturalistic model of evolution but not complete challenges. I don't find the theory defeated in any way but I do think its incomplete and in the way it is incomplete may be the path to its destruction.
You failed to really address by point that science "evolves" and new things are learned and that Darwin just began the story. If Darwin didn't get it all right, who cares? The point is that the foundations of evolution are still quite strong, if you like it or not. Even if the debate now resides in the genes and if natural selection looks weaker and weaker as a mechanism for change, it still is quite strong, there is still evidence for it.
All your questions about it are worthy questions but I don't think the lack of answers means it isn't true. We know a lot more now then in Darwin's day and we learn more every year. Certain aspects are far from our understanding and may well solidify a design conclusion or lead to another theory altogether but lack of knowledge doesn't mean its wrong. Its at least not enough to be cynical about it.
What you should be cynical about(and you kind of are) is there constant pressure to accept it as fact as they present it and their unwillingness to have an open mind towards competing ideas.
@@blusheep2 I'm not talking about future Scientific Discoveries. As they are Red Herrings. As one day pigs might grow wings and take to flight. Is that a Scientific Statement or wishful thinking? At best it might be Magic Pixie Dust.
Fact is the lack of any Scientific Evidence. Is in of itself not an answer. It's a crutch. I want things I can test to see if the assertions valid. So no Science of the gaps arguments.
This is where I part with people that bring that into a discussion. As all I asked for was Evidence. That one can Test. Observe and Repeat. No Maybe. Could Have. Might Have. we don't know but it's been well established. Not even sure how that last one even works. Why i pay attention to words. they have meaning. And when people use them to practice deception ie Avoid having to answer the question. They should not be upset when someone calls them on it. It's how we make progress by weeding them out.
I would add. We have problems explaining mind. As the Universe would need the same traits. As the Effect can never be greater then the Cause. So what ever is going on. It's sure smarter then us. What ever you want to call it. You can call it God. Outside Agency. Creator. As the physics that govern the Universe have not changed in over 13+ billion years.
But I do appreciate you being civil. Most go on some rant. About Gods existence. Which is not the question. It's how did we get here. And making shit up. Passing it off as fact. Is what pisses me off. They must think everybody is either ignorant or stupid. The very fact they tried insults my Intelligence..
@@MasterChief-sl9ro
I agree with your "science of the gaps" argument. In fact, I'm quite pleased to see you use it. I usually have called it "atheist of the gaps" and so far, or until you, I am the only one I have ever heard use it. Naturalists hate when they turn their own techniques against them and expose them for the hypocrites they often are.
My point is not to bring in a "science of the gaps" argument. I am not saying the gaps "will" be filled with naturalistic evolution. I am saying that science is an on going process and pointing to the gaps is no more an argument for you as it is for them. At best we wait and see.
Also, historical sciences aren't the same as measuring the decay rate of an atom. Historical sciences aren't always repeatable. They are almost never observable. The evidence gives reason to infer the best explanation. Right now that IS evolution. We can't seriously be expected to test and repeat a mechanism that is theorized to take millions of years unless of course we wait millions of years.
So for now, if you like it or not there is quite a bit of evidence for an old earth and evolution. Is it enough to prove it? No! Is it enough to say something like it happened? Yes.
A point of science that you are ignoring is prediction which is a part of falsification. Not all science is decided by pure experiment and testability. Some of it(especially historical sciences) use prediction. For instance, evolution predicts that if evolution is true then the simplest creatures will be found in the oldest rock and as you move through the geologic record to the present the animal forms will become more and more complex. And this is exactly what we find. We can repeat that observation anywhere in the world we look therefore it is evidence of evolution. Could there be another explanation? Sure, but right now this is the best one. It would be improper to claim that the evidence doesn't exist.
I'm not upset with the theist presenting something as fact. No one is fooled into believing that the presentation doesn't come through faith in what they believe to be true. A theist is not a scientist. They are not held to the same standard. Its like the difference between a criminal case and a civil case. The standard of evidence is less. There is no hypocrisy in them. I can not say the same thing for the atheist or the scientist who place as their foundation the scientific method then violate it in plane site while denying that they are.
As long as you treat me with respect then I will do the same with you. I am not looking for a fight, but a discussion of thoughtful individuals that will take the conversation and think about the points made in their free time.
Most debates I get into, I do in hopes of simply building respect between opposing views. I'm horrified by how many refuse to do so. In the end everyone has the same problem to solve. The atheist/materialist must explain the origin of the universe and life and theists must explain the origin of God. Neither can answer with any certainty and so we all employ a little faith to fill the gap.