Mave made a Vid on these earlier today because of the new Artifact mods due on reset Tuesday. Khvostov was what she deemed best but Tommy's Matchbook will also be decent because of Solar ignitions ✌
Another bonus to khvostov is how far those ricochet rounds will go compared to necros explosions, it kills all those taken turrets in warlords ruin as fast as they spawn in
I love Necro, but one problem with this gun exist. Sometimes, I swear, I kill enemies in the crit, I see the yellow numbers, but Thrall Explosion’s not happening.
@@KingJC. No, the curse thrall explosion is arc, the bullets are kinetic. Siphon mods only work with the respective ammo type (kinetic bullet for kinetic siphon in this case)
@@jadenyuki2031 one for thrall is essentially active either before you activate desperation, or as you activate desperation, never after. You never have to actually manually activate one for thrall because the explosions have such a large radius. Cross sold on these dps calculations
Come Tuesday necro will be better in my book because of shock and awe, the thrall explosions do arc damage so that means it'll cause lightning strikes whenever you get kills with them.
Something else to note: Khvostov is much better at filling the Transcendence meter than Necrochasm. Necrochasm's explosions count as arc damage, which will fill only the light side of the meter. Khvostov's ricochet rounds count as kinetic, which will fill both sides of the meter.
If you use it with Necrotic grips or spirit of necrotic, Necrochasm is absolutely better imo. The explosions spread poison and killing poisoned enemies (headshot or not) triggers another explosion, spreading more poison. It is actually ridiculous what you can do with it. Without Necrotic, the competition is much closer. I’m still taking Necrochasm because I think having suped up Firefly, Outlaw, Desperado, and refreshable One for All on a single weapon outweighs Khvostov, but I will admit it’s close.
I already have 30k kills on Khvostov. It s amazing. Love the fact Kinetic damage actually works well with Prismatic as before you kinda had to use an energy weapon to use subclass verbs properly. Finally have a reason to use Kinetic primaries.
another thing to note: things that explode while they are thrall burned are NOT only exclusive to enemies! Barriers, constructs, many many objects in the game that get burned from the cursed thrall explosion and are still burning can also make a cursed thrall explosion when they are destroyed. I've gotten many extra kills cause of this in trials and pvp because of it.
11:24 You also didn't take Desperation into account. It does require a reload to proc, but it brings it's dps to 57481, which massively eclipses Khvostov. Of course, it requires a reload on kill and hitting 3 targets, but it's potential on a precision kill(which procs 1 for thrall) is MASSIVE. Khovostov is a monster in it's own right, but it isn't as "potent" as Necro, numbers wise. It is however SO much easier to get VERY solid performance at worst. It's consistent and strong, which some people like more than potent but requiring setup. This is coming from someone who doesn't use either much, Maybe with Anti-Overload Auto's coming tomorrow I may dust off Necro for a bit, but I also have the funny Dragonfly/Voltshot Prosecutor from farming the first encounter this week, so I have some options lmao
Was looking for someone else to say it. Didn’t wanna say it myself, but it had to be said. You’ve done Titan mains everywhere as well as the greater community a favor.
Ya I’m disappointed just go nechro but thorn feels leagues better with necrotic grips. As a raid weapon it should be much better. I think they need to take the need for precision damage away from nechro to compete
@@lionbolt2136 huh? there were other things I'd rather do in Destiny lol. I also picked getting Necro + catalyst over Khvostov so idk what you're getting at
Lets also count that to get Necro you have to get lucky in a raid and then you have to grind EVEN MORE to get the catalyst, where Khvostov is just a 2 or maybe 3 hours quest at worse and then you have it!!
For me it’s khovostov all day. Better add clearing by being less accurate so the easy of use is great. It’s also a utility weapon with shoot to loot. Not only can I grab the orbs to give me super, surge, and eyes up, but I can also collect the ammo I need around the field. To top it off it has better range than necro so to me I’ll stick to running khovostov.
As a Necro main since back in D1, I gotta agree with Cross on this one They brought back this series most iconic weapon, and made it a BEHEMOTH of an ad clearing weapon, especially because of its (as mentioned) self-feeding loop, but also it's consistency
I need bungle to realize how smooth it would be for the catalyst to give khvostovs ricochet rounds the ability to automatically collect orbs near your target
as far as PvE goes, I feel that the real difference on which is better partly depends on what class you play, but mostly revolves around personal preference. Necrochasm is a Kinetic with some Arc synergy as the Thrall explosions are arc damage, so it can make Ionic Traces for some builds. Warlocks are best suited to use it because Necrotics make the weapon easier to use at full power... an god help us if Bungie gets the wild idea to give one class exclusive perk from each Class Item to the other two as a "buff" Khvostov's ricochets allow for some very ridiculous "trick shots", allowing you to use a tanky target to kill the surrounding enemies. Shoot to Loot makes getting ammo easier and, as already mentioned, enables a self fulfilling loop of keeping "Eyes Up, Guardian" active for ad clearing on any class.
You kinda have to Look at another thing as Well... Necro fills the Trinity Roll, it needs a kill First then it has best in Slot adclear, so necro anyday in lower content, but khvostov excells even more in Higher Tier content cause you don't need a kill first
@@DomiBlueShellz sure... But by the same token, Khvostov without it's perk being primed only goes after two targets at a time, and in higher tier content, there's going to be well more than that coming after you. Unless you got a weapon with Attrition Orbs, You'd also need a kill to get Kvostov's "Eyes Up, Guardian" live for it's stellar add clear. It's why I think Warlocks can have better results with Necro, because an enemy poisoned by Necrotics can detonate even from a body shot. For Titan and Hunter, though, yeah... Kvostov's better.
@@phoenix5029 okay i gotta admit when i compared the two i mostly use abilities for high end adclear and when i HAVE to use my guns and it's for some reason Not my Special weapon then khvostov has uptime constantly
@@DomiBlueShellz everyone's got their style. Who am I to judge? I, personally, like to build my abilities in a way where my guns can pick up the slack if they're still on cooldown. But then I found out about Necrochasm getting explosions off body shots, how it works, and got hooked. Works wonders with Strand, too, and Prismatic can also use it with Spirit of Necrotics.
I honestly feel that needing the crit with perk up just feels like a speed bump, expecially how some adds don't have crits, swing their crit or hide their crit in a janky crit box Yet many other exotics don't need a crit I feel like allowing a proc on kill instead of crit after activating the perk would feel more rewarding and less of a pain point trying to get your 1000 rpm weppons to land that last bullet as a crit Because it's honestly one of the reasons why I just deleted it after completing the catalyst When you got things kentic special and energy exotics and verbs like incandescent
Both guns are fantastic! I prefer Necrochasm more because when I am aiming, most of the time I aim for the critical area so I am going to proc it. Plus gun go boom.
Which one is better? The one I got easily in a couple of days, and didn't require me to have a team of 5 sweats to get through a raid dozens of times. lol
Id argue that khovstovs ad clear is harder to achieve since you need orbs of power to grt eyes up in order to chain more. Yes orbs are easy to make but it is an extra step as opposed to just getting a precision kill
I love how necrochasm was a meme in D1 and now everyone is treating this weapon like its the next best thing since slice bread Im glad necrochasm is getting the attention it deserves
Killing an enemy that’s burning from being tagged by a necro kabloomie IN ANY WAY causes another explosion. Meaning you can just shoot them in the body or throw an ability or use a different weapon and if they die while they’re still burning the chain continues
I say Khvostov. It's a Stat monster put aside the ricochet perk. And given how long Necrochasm took to get and how often the explosions simply won't trigger after crit kills sometimes, I say Khvstov.
Man I wish I could get a fireteam together to get the necro caty. I can’t seem to have much luck in LFGs. Most are not running Crota much anymore and the runs I do see are teaching runs that can barely get through abyss.
Nechrochasm just never really clicked for me, if it's perk was 24/7 active like a super version of firefly then maybe, but Khvoztov just feels better, it's perk has more uptime that can refresh itself and with it's ornament it looks amazing too
Having to get headshots with necro kinda kills it. The best primaries in the game don’t require effort like that. It needs to have a smaller cursed thrall explosion on body shots to make it rewarding regardless of a headshot or not.
So does this mean that with the new auto reloading artifact perk, you will just keep triggering the ricochet round you gain from our being the first bullet in the mag?
One rifle requires precision kills. The other rifle does not even require kills. One rifle bounces infinitely refreshable bullets so long as you have orbs. The other does not. Khovostov wins and it's not close.
Maybe in the future they'll Give kovostov a catalyst where Long press. The reload button to switch firing modes That benefit kovostov while in semi auto and single firing mode I just want it to be as close as the d1 version That way while ricochet rounds are more potent depending on which firing mode you use I think this idea works because in the original Destiny you could switch alternate firing mode's so it has more nostalgia to the original
The DPS section of the video is completely wrong. Desperation was not considered while one for thrall was. Necrochasm’s dps with desperation is 42,780, and if you add one for thrall to that it becomes 57,753 dps, being substantially higher than khvostov’s 47,930 dps. If you’re thinking it’s hard to have desperation and one for thrall active, you’ve never used the gun. The explosion you create when getting a headshot kill to activate desperation is extremely likely to hit other enemies, activating one for thrall which can be kept up indefinitely fairly easily. Genuinely if the ACTUAL dps of necrochasm was considered I think it would be rated to be better than khvostov because it’s a substantial difference
I really wish it was easier to get necrochasm, I don’t have enough friends to just grind out the raid, i used to love the necro in D1 just for how you got it and just how it looked but I haven’t been able to touch it in D2 sadly
I dunno, it’s tough to choose. I’ve used Khvostov since D1, and then Necrochasm in D2 shortly after Croats end was released for it- Given with Act III and the whole auto rifle specific artifact mods I’m pretty sure both are bound to be absolutely broken
Crazy enough I love raids and grinding their exotics but I also really don't like getting sack tapped by RNG for 20+ runs. (just a random number, actually haven't done CE in D2 yet.)
I still haven't finished the mission for Khvostov. It's incredibly long-winded and tedious and I'm not an auto rifle guy. Plus, Outbreak has been my goat for pve content since I first got it from that crazy quest in D1. These two guns can't beat that attachment.
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a friend rocks kovostov with bellicus actium chest piece and he can literally clean whole raid rooms alone
Mave made a Vid on these earlier today because of the new Artifact mods due on reset Tuesday. Khvostov was what she deemed best but Tommy's Matchbook will also be decent because of Solar ignitions ✌
@@AshleyRobinson-os1xbuh no she didn’t. She said necrochasm is overall the best
@@literallyjustaglassofmilk3609 it's better add clear. Necro is just for the collectors and people in denial now now
Fun fact: when you are holding Necrochasm you can hear Wispers and the scream's of thralls repeatedly.
where fat luzaku?
@TimothyMark7 bro I've seen you on the d2 reddit sometimes I knew that titan picture looked familiar 🤣
@@ericmoore1090 NOICE, and yeap I have a vision.
@TimothyMark7 I mean u might be on to something with a fat Luzaku🤔
@@ericmoore1090 fun fact : when the ricochet rounds start flying round a room you can hear the scream of thralls as well
Another bonus to khvostov is how far those ricochet rounds will go compared to necros explosions, it kills all those taken turrets in warlords ruin as fast as they spawn in
Great for minor add clear in a major way.
Picking up an Orb when you have Khvostov is like having a temporary aimbot, it's super fun against PvE adds
0:08 Congrats to Datto for managing to main titan for ten years.
Only one. ❤
@@MattDollinger Sadly he also broke in the day one contest.. :(
Cross did Day 1 as a Titan. Datto did not...
woo cant wait till he leaves
@@thif4722 Betraying his inner self...
As a necro connoisseur any answer other than my baby is fighting words.
Edit: CROSS, I take this impasse as a sign of truce.
Necro is definitely cooler but khovstov is just better
Biased
Welp guess we throwin hands meet me at disney world
necrochasm is trash I have no idea why people think it’s good
Necrochasm just feels so good man
I love Necro, but one problem with this gun exist. Sometimes, I swear, I kill enemies in the crit, I see the yellow numbers, but Thrall Explosion’s not happening.
this is why I'm saying we should have fat luzaku
Same for outbreak. Get the yellows, hear the sound, get the faster reload but no siva?
What I’m sayin
Pretty sure Bungie has mentioned they know of this issue
Yup I noticed that yesterday
Fun idea: Have Bungie make us a Kinetic Heavy Weapon fusion of the two that shoots exploding ricochet bullets😂
or we hold luzaku and she vores anything we aim at making her bigger and heavier
@@TimothyMark7what the hell is wrong with you
The degeneracy knows no bounds. 😂 ☝️
@@TimothyMark7 I'm not tryna play with one hand dawg💀
Ok pyrocynical @TimothyMark7
If Khvostov got a catalyst which could give it Kinetic Tremors, it would be super easy to activate shoot to loot. Would be nice.
Honestly if they added the ability for orbs to reload the weapon, thatd be enough for me
hear me out, explosive rounds
@@cherryboy7359hear me out, explosive light
Hear me out, rebuild D2 from the ground up.
hear me out a catalyst that allows the ricochets to target orbs
I use Necrochasm with Arc, because the cursed thrall explosions are arc, so they proc ionic traces. It's just chefs kiss
yup ! and iirc they benefit from arc surges
Does this work with arc orb mod on helmet?
@@KingJC. No, the curse thrall explosion is arc, the bullets are kinetic. Siphon mods only work with the respective ammo type (kinetic bullet for kinetic siphon in this case)
@@cyber_ninja121 if the explosion gets the kills is does proc arc siphon
Wrong it does actually create orbs with arc syphon @@cyber_ninja121
For the Necrochasm PVE dps number you only included One For Thrall but Desperation should also be taken into account
when both are active the gun becomes insane.
@@jadenyuki2031 one for thrall is essentially active either before you activate desperation, or as you activate desperation, never after. You never have to actually manually activate one for thrall because the explosions have such a large radius. Cross sold on these dps calculations
@@vfronterotta this is also why we need to plumpen out luzaku
@TimothyMark7 Hahaha and here you are 🤣👋🏼
why are dps numbers being recorded for primaries whose main traits center on crowd clear?
Warlock behind the Titan: shhhhhh. is perfect 🤌🤣
Come Tuesday necro will be better in my book because of shock and awe, the thrall explosions do arc damage so that means it'll cause lightning strikes whenever you get kills with them.
Something else to note: Khvostov is much better at filling the Transcendence meter than Necrochasm. Necrochasm's explosions count as arc damage, which will fill only the light side of the meter. Khvostov's ricochet rounds count as kinetic, which will fill both sides of the meter.
The poison also fills it. And with all the explosions going off nonstop giving you energy too, it’s better at getting energy
@@hatchell18 As someone that has tested both extensively, you're wrong.
If you use it with Necrotic grips or spirit of necrotic, Necrochasm is absolutely better imo. The explosions spread poison and killing poisoned enemies (headshot or not) triggers another explosion, spreading more poison. It is actually ridiculous what you can do with it.
Without Necrotic, the competition is much closer. I’m still taking Necrochasm because I think having suped up Firefly, Outlaw, Desperado, and refreshable One for All on a single weapon outweighs Khvostov, but I will admit it’s close.
Its like firefly+chain reaction+subsistence+outlaw+desperado+one for all
How well does necrochasm's explosions work for spamming prismatic?
@@Kirbssterit’s a kinetic so if your focus is on prismatic, just make sure you have the fragment for kinetics and you’ll build the meter fast.
I don't think I will ever replace Necro with Thorn. I don't have the catalyst, for some reason, on Necro, but Thorn is nuts this season. Dunno why..
I already have 30k kills on Khvostov. It s amazing.
Love the fact Kinetic damage actually works well with Prismatic as before you kinda had to use an energy weapon to use subclass verbs properly. Finally have a reason to use Kinetic primaries.
Seeing Cross's warlock alter ego, shadow his titan as he says "10 years as a titan main" had me in tears 😂😂😂
Hey Ross thank you for keeping us around to play this game
another thing to note: things that explode while they are thrall burned are NOT only exclusive to enemies! Barriers, constructs, many many objects in the game that get burned from the cursed thrall explosion and are still burning can also make a cursed thrall explosion when they are destroyed. I've gotten many extra kills cause of this in trials and pvp because of it.
Pairing the kvostov with the sightline survey is really fun in pvp
Same I love that combo!!
Necro being a raid weapon makes sense that is this strong
11:24 You also didn't take Desperation into account. It does require a reload to proc, but it brings it's dps to 57481, which massively eclipses Khvostov. Of course, it requires a reload on kill and hitting 3 targets, but it's potential on a precision kill(which procs 1 for thrall) is MASSIVE. Khovostov is a monster in it's own right, but it isn't as "potent" as Necro, numbers wise. It is however SO much easier to get VERY solid performance at worst. It's consistent and strong, which some people like more than potent but requiring setup. This is coming from someone who doesn't use either much, Maybe with Anti-Overload Auto's coming tomorrow I may dust off Necro for a bit, but I also have the funny Dragonfly/Voltshot Prosecutor from farming the first encounter this week, so I have some options lmao
Well back to the grind I need to get my hands on Necrochasm.
I will never stop having a Gnawing Hunger
Thank God there are content creators to see these weapons in action.
I’ll be using centerfuse with gifted conviction on hunter and necro with necrotic grips with the new mods
I've got a few Warlock builds that already use Necrotic grips for the strand melee, so pairing that with Necro is gonna be beastly.
Khvostov was the easier to get. As I don't have a Necro. So Khvostov wins for me. Now I just need to have the skin for it, and I will be GOLDEN!
Bought it first day. Ugly gun is unusable
then get Necro it's poggers.
lucky you, check the bright dust shop
1:28 Wooimaboutomakeanameformyselfhere
I like the Khvo more because shoot to loot and the ricochet is just fun to hear
I really need to get that Necro catalyst
I can’t believe cross has been a warlock main for almost 10 years now! Time sure does fly
But we all know the true king of exotic, kinetic auto-rifles is Sweet Business.
Was looking for someone else to say it. Didn’t wanna say it myself, but it had to be said. You’ve done Titan mains everywhere as well as the greater community a favor.
You mean Suros Regime
@@nickyjay4046 Thank you. my comrade in arms o7
Amen
My one and only character has been Titan since day one. Titans all day baby 💪🏼
Thank you for making this a real video and not just pvp gameplay from your twitch stream
Thorn is also super op this season with necrotic, it’s all I run on my warlock
Ya I’m disappointed just go nechro but thorn feels leagues better with necrotic grips. As a raid weapon it should be much better. I think they need to take the need for precision damage away from nechro to compete
Crotas end about to be buzzin again
It took so long for me to get Necro, that I don't have the cat and I really don't wanna do anymore Crota for it
Getting nechro was sorrow
Secret option 3: Zhalo Supercell
Brother you gotta let it go man
Keep believing brother
No bro don’t listen to the haters, keep fighting the good fight 🤌🤌
Literally riskrunner
No, since riskrunner and the other one exist from season of the deep.
After getting the warlock class item with spirit of necrotic and spirit of claw necrochasms and prismatic have been fun.
PICK YOUR WEAPON
Option 1: is a chore to get.
Option 2: is a chore to get.
Khvostov is way easier to get.
tbh I gave up on Khvostov and haven't gone back since. pushing for my catalyst on Necro though lol
@@denny8422you give up way too easily
I'm working on getting Khvostov, already 1/3 of the way through
@@lionbolt2136 huh? there were other things I'd rather do in Destiny lol. I also picked getting Necro + catalyst over Khvostov so idk what you're getting at
Lets also count that to get Necro you have to get lucky in a raid and then you have to grind EVEN MORE to get the catalyst, where Khvostov is just a 2 or maybe 3 hours quest at worse and then you have it!!
Centerifuse can access all of the act 3 mods so I think it will be really good!
For me it’s khovostov all day. Better add clearing by being less accurate so the easy of use is great. It’s also a utility weapon with shoot to loot. Not only can I grab the orbs to give me super, surge, and eyes up, but I can also collect the ammo I need around the field. To top it off it has better range than necro so to me I’ll stick to running khovostov.
As a Necro main since back in D1, I gotta agree with Cross on this one
They brought back this series most iconic weapon, and made it a BEHEMOTH of an ad clearing weapon, especially because of its (as mentioned) self-feeding loop, but also it's consistency
@AztecrossGaming the Necrochasms cursed thrall explosion is arc damage, which pair with the artifact perk shock and awe. Might be worth a test
I need bungle to realize how smooth it would be for the catalyst to give khvostovs ricochet rounds the ability to automatically collect orbs near your target
"10 years of maining Titan" Cross lied as easily as he breathed.
as far as PvE goes, I feel that the real difference on which is better partly depends on what class you play, but mostly revolves around personal preference.
Necrochasm is a Kinetic with some Arc synergy as the Thrall explosions are arc damage, so it can make Ionic Traces for some builds. Warlocks are best suited to use it because Necrotics make the weapon easier to use at full power... an god help us if Bungie gets the wild idea to give one class exclusive perk from each Class Item to the other two as a "buff"
Khvostov's ricochets allow for some very ridiculous "trick shots", allowing you to use a tanky target to kill the surrounding enemies. Shoot to Loot makes getting ammo easier and, as already mentioned, enables a self fulfilling loop of keeping "Eyes Up, Guardian" active for ad clearing on any class.
You kinda have to Look at another thing as Well... Necro fills the Trinity Roll, it needs a kill First then it has best in Slot adclear, so necro anyday in lower content, but khvostov excells even more in Higher Tier content cause you don't need a kill first
@@DomiBlueShellz sure... But by the same token, Khvostov without it's perk being primed only goes after two targets at a time, and in higher tier content, there's going to be well more than that coming after you.
Unless you got a weapon with Attrition Orbs, You'd also need a kill to get Kvostov's "Eyes Up, Guardian" live for it's stellar add clear.
It's why I think Warlocks can have better results with Necro, because an enemy poisoned by Necrotics can detonate even from a body shot.
For Titan and Hunter, though, yeah... Kvostov's better.
@@phoenix5029 okay i gotta admit when i compared the two i mostly use abilities for high end adclear and when i HAVE to use my guns and it's for some reason Not my Special weapon then khvostov has uptime constantly
@@DomiBlueShellz everyone's got their style. Who am I to judge?
I, personally, like to build my abilities in a way where my guns can pick up the slack if they're still on cooldown.
But then I found out about Necrochasm getting explosions off body shots, how it works, and got hooked. Works wonders with Strand, too, and Prismatic can also use it with Spirit of Necrotics.
Just did an impromptu cat Crota this evening, so very timely vid 🥳
How come Quicksilver wasn't mentioned or compared?
Necro gets the dub for drip
Sweet business and Tommy’s matchbook for high end content necro and khvostav for general play
aint no way bro thought skincare would be appealing to the destiny audience
There's an exotic auto rifle coming , next week, so keep that mind, it might be really good too and its the reason we're getting auto rifle mods.
It may use Special Ammo.
@@nullandvoid7524 Oh really ? That's very special, pun intended lol.
Void one. I think it’s gonna cater to arc synergy tho.
@@kisukeurahara189 Yes its void
I honestly feel that needing the crit with perk up just feels like a speed bump, expecially how some adds don't have crits, swing their crit or hide their crit in a janky crit box
Yet many other exotics don't need a crit
I feel like allowing a proc on kill instead of crit after activating the perk would feel more rewarding and less of a pain point trying to get your 1000 rpm weppons to land that last bullet as a crit
Because it's honestly one of the reasons why I just deleted it after completing the catalyst
When you got things kentic special and energy exotics and verbs like incandescent
Ive missed these kind of reviews!! I don’t mind the live reviews but nice to see these again!
FINALLY DESTINY 2 REFERENCE FROM AZTECROSS NO WAY
The timing of this video is crazy 💀
A DAY before choir of one comes out 💀
As someone that has neither, it’s obviously the summoner
Real I can’t be asked to fet khovostov haha
Both guns are fantastic! I prefer Necrochasm more because when I am aiming, most of the time I aim for the critical area so I am going to proc it. Plus gun go boom.
WIth Necro being from a raid, Khvostov is my pick by default.
Kinda agree. Nevro is a beast in PvP. KHOV rules pve.
Which one is better? The one I got easily in a couple of days, and didn't require me to have a team of 5 sweats to get through a raid dozens of times. lol
i want the 900rpm autos back i miss atheons epilogue
Id argue that khovstovs ad clear is harder to achieve since you need orbs of power to grt eyes up in order to chain more. Yes orbs are easy to make but it is an extra step as opposed to just getting a precision kill
I love how necrochasm was a meme in D1 and now everyone is treating this weapon like its the next best thing since slice bread
Im glad necrochasm is getting the attention it deserves
The riposte is my fave atm but I have yet to get necro since I barely get to run raids
Killing an enemy that’s burning from being tagged by a necro kabloomie IN ANY WAY causes another explosion. Meaning you can just shoot them in the body or throw an ability or use a different weapon and if they die while they’re still burning the chain continues
The "10 years of maining Titan" with the warlock behind made me laugh so hard.
I say Khvostov. It's a Stat monster put aside the ricochet perk. And given how long Necrochasm took to get and how often the explosions simply won't trigger after crit kills sometimes, I say Khvstov.
Question....where is the Quicksilver Storm? It's still my go to Exotic Primary Auto
Super nerfed and damn near a dead gun. Smh. Shame they nerfed it so bad on the grenade
Kvostov is clearly best because it makes BING BONG POW sounds.
At 3:49 to 3:54 seconds, what was that when he shot both walls randomly 😅
Man I wish I could get a fireteam together to get the necro caty. I can’t seem to have much luck in LFGs. Most are not running Crota much anymore and the runs I do see are teaching runs that can barely get through abyss.
Tommy matchbook about to be the goat
Necro gang rise up from the depth of the shadow realm! 😈💥
I worked wayyy to hard against rng to get my necrochasm and can say it was worth it, it just feels amazing to me
The kvostov is sick bc of the ricochet but the necrochasm is filthy work
Nechrochasm just never really clicked for me, if it's perk was 24/7 active like a super version of firefly then maybe, but Khvoztov just feels better, it's perk has more uptime that can refresh itself and with it's ornament it looks amazing too
Having to get headshots with necro kinda kills it. The best primaries in the game don’t require effort like that. It needs to have a smaller cursed thrall explosion on body shots to make it rewarding regardless of a headshot or not.
Bruh it has so much aim assist you can shoot chests and it will count as headshots.
On Goblins it will always proc
Hot take, kvostov without its exotic perks doesn’t do enough damage to justify its slot.
Dont sleep on COME TO PASS. It hits hard, and with ADAPTIVE MUNITIONS and DRAGONFLY, it's going to be a big help in ad clear.
Wery good can we see more of this please and for handcanons midnightcup kineticstrimmer +explosive vs warden’s law + lucky pants on both
Or a Präzision 120 in pvp
So does this mean that with the new auto reloading artifact perk, you will just keep triggering the ricochet round you gain from our being the first bullet in the mag?
Bro put out the review for the solstice shotgun while there is still time to get it.
One rifle requires precision kills. The other rifle does not even require kills. One rifle bounces infinitely refreshable bullets so long as you have orbs. The other does not. Khovostov wins and it's not close.
Maybe in the future they'll Give kovostov a catalyst where Long press. The reload button to switch firing modes That benefit kovostov while in semi auto and single firing mode I just want it to be as close as the d1 version That way while ricochet rounds are more potent depending on which firing mode you use I think this idea works because in the original Destiny you could switch alternate firing mode's so it has more nostalgia to the original
No
Why not
Surely they'll find a way to balance that If they ever did
Besides, it's just my opinion
The problem I always have with Necro is that half the time I don't feel like precision kills proc the perk. Idk but it seems very inconsistent to me.
I would really like a pulse rifle of sorrow or a sword of sorrow
Going to have to redo this video now that choir entered the chat…
The DPS section of the video is completely wrong. Desperation was not considered while one for thrall was. Necrochasm’s dps with desperation is 42,780, and if you add one for thrall to that it becomes 57,753 dps, being substantially higher than khvostov’s 47,930 dps. If you’re thinking it’s hard to have desperation and one for thrall active, you’ve never used the gun. The explosion you create when getting a headshot kill to activate desperation is extremely likely to hit other enemies, activating one for thrall which can be kept up indefinitely fairly easily. Genuinely if the ACTUAL dps of necrochasm was considered I think it would be rated to be better than khvostov because it’s a substantial difference
The Khvostov is my comfort character.
I really wish it was easier to get necrochasm, I don’t have enough friends to just grind out the raid, i used to love the necro in D1 just for how you got it and just how it looked but I haven’t been able to touch it in D2 sadly
I dunno, it’s tough to choose. I’ve used Khvostov since D1, and then Necrochasm in D2 shortly after Croats end was released for it-
Given with Act III and the whole auto rifle specific artifact mods I’m pretty sure both are bound to be absolutely broken
Crazy enough I love raids and grinding their exotics but I also really don't like getting sack tapped by RNG for 20+ runs. (just a random number, actually haven't done CE in D2 yet.)
I can't acquire neither. What's the third option?
why did you not use desperation and one for thrall for the dps value, are we trolling?
57k ish dps
Imagine if they did a trinity ghoul catalyst on necro
I still haven't finished the mission for Khvostov. It's incredibly long-winded and tedious and I'm not an auto rifle guy. Plus, Outbreak has been my goat for pve content since I first got it from that crazy quest in D1.
These two guns can't beat that attachment.