Correction. When using kick with the bullgoat talisman, you can poise through the 2h running heavy attacks of greathammers and anything that does less poise damage.
@strugglerva4401 i have been extremely unpleased as a co op bro. It seems like either invader or host die instantly depending on who is using bs or who hits first.
@@KNGDDDE It probably does both on the initial hit and pure Fire on the heavy attack follow up. It's a Flame Art Ash of War, meaning the damage of the followup will scale with your Faith and the Faith scaling of the weapon, making Flame Art much better than Fire or Heavy.
Great content that I subscribed for! I'm hoping you'll put out some colossal weapon invasion/duel guides out at some point those are some of my favorites to watch personally. They're hard to use.
Sadly you're going to have to use an offhand club or something, you will never beat anyone halfway competent with one otherwise. It's crazy to me how shafted this weapon category got compared to colossal swords.
Can you do a similar video on poise damage rankings of the new ashes of war, spells, and incantations? As well as poise levels for new incantations and spells? Would be epic
Hey VA, the Fire Greatsword is a colossal that combos into itself. Aka if one R1 hits, you get another free. Totally busted. Someone killed me with it and I’m like wtf
Dammit, i completely forgot to mention the segment about status effects in this vid. I think bleed, frost, and other burst type status effects will interrupt most attack animations (and even dodge animations) dont know if they fixed that yet or even touched it. There are a few things that arent in the patch notes that were changed in patch 1.12
I have a question. if I use the ash of war that has hyper armor(such as storm blade) with an weapon that has hyper armor such as great sword(two-handed), then the ash of war is less canceled by attacks of the enemy than when using the same ash with a weapon that has no hyper armor such as katana?
They powercrept a lot of things, death's poker, giant hunt, lions claw, the thorn sorceries, quickstep, BHS, most colossals (well that isnt a high bar), full bullgoats, vykes dragonbolt, frost dragon breath, rosus axe (again not a huge loss lol), dual curved swords and the claymore Just off the top of my mind
Well some of the examples you chose are not necessarily strictly better, for example ghostflame ash has terrible dmg compared to its version on the deathpoker, and savage lions claw has to hit with both parts to have comparable stance dmg to regular lions claw which is 36. It’s better and easier to just use lions claw twice for almost double the stance dmg than what SLC can do in its best case scenario.
I really was taken aback by the inclusion of eternal sleep pots and greases. No clue why they felt we needed a new sleep status that does slightly more fp damage to opponents, but hey more sleep consumable are nice i guess
@@Chonus savage lions claw is just way better imo. The bane of having to hit with both parts of the stance isnt as bad bc hit 1 will true combo into hit 2 (and some quick offhand weapons) also, after the initial leap, you can cancel into crouch, guard, and attack way faster than with regular lions claw. This opens up a few more opportunities for aggression depending on what defensive option your opponent chooses. Try to crouch cancel after the initial leap and follow up with a crouch poke to contest roll ins, and a crouch running heavy to contest roll outs. Has helped me out quite a bit. However, lions claw pancaking on the initial strike is very valuable in some situations
@@Chonus both shred through enemy posture health in pve, i always keep a greatsword with both lions claw and savage lions claw, it may be a little excessive haha
For the HA Level Three Tier, where can I learn the hyper armor values of my weapon? I probably shouldn't put chilling mist on my milady if I want it to have some hyper armor?
chilling mist would still be pretty good for milady i think, the buff alone is super worth. Probably wont be able to trade with most weapons though. Im using cheat engine to find out the poise numbers but chilling mist on milady will give you a flat 60 poise which is added to your armor poise, and will reduce incoming poise damage by 35%
@@StrugglerVA I don't plan to use it for PvP anyways. I run around 51-60 poise so it sounds like it should be enough for me to poise 2 light hits or 1 strong hit in PvE, which is good enough I think. Thanks for your reply.
man... they didn't touched spinning strikes in the last patch (except for the "bug" with bloodflame blade incantation), that aow is almost useless in pvp. also i've seen that a some of people uses phantom slash as a "trading tool", it seems that the phantom appears on frame 1, so if you trigger the AoW just before getting hitstun, the phantom will appear, and depending on the reaction of the opponent, it will stager him so you can take advantage of it with one of your own attacks.
Might have to do an update including all the ashes of war. There are only 25 ashes that were added in dlc and to my knowledge, only a handful of them are usable on colossal swords. And an even larger portion are locked to specific weapon classes
does this hyper armor added aour armor ?. so if ı have 50 poise and use troll roar. will ı have 550 poise? so with bull goat ı can even withstand againt 2h collossal heavy jump atk. if only calculate on 500 poise it is not enough.
@@huseyinakkoc1062 sorry for not clarifying, the poise value that is displayed is the FINAL value you have during your hyper armor. Armor poise does not matter at all when using the skills that have a numerical value displayed in the left column of the tier list. If your armor poise is 50, your bonus for troll roar will be 500. If your armor poise is 0, your poise bonus for troll roar will be 500. Trolls roar and the rest of the numerically labeled ashes will reduce incoming poise damage by 50% which essentially allows you to withstand 1000 poise damage
It's still better for PvP while giant hunt remains king in PvE. The infinite stunlock from humanoids getting back up and higher stance damage is invaluable.
![[ELDEN RING] Unique Weapon Skills Poise Tierlist](/img/1.gif)
Correction. When using kick with the bullgoat talisman, you can poise through the 2h running heavy attacks of greathammers and anything that does less poise damage.
Can you do a video on unique ashes of war? I would like to know about the sword of light or the sword of dark in particular.
Current state of pvp: welcome to hell
Lol you think pve is hard, pvp is like impossible
I would recommend the greatsword of damnation, makes invasions SOMEWHAT playable.
So much broken stuff for fromsoft to fix
@strugglerva4401 i have been extremely unpleased as a co op bro. It seems like either invader or host die instantly depending on who is using bs or who hits first.
@@815TypeSirius sigh I'm telling you bro it's hell in these streets, have you tried arena. It's basically who has the swifter slash
The Palm Blast having both Super Armor AND God Tier damage is so funny to me.
With the additional of crucible and fire knights... it's needed lol
Yeah, what a choice. haha
"Yeah, keep swinging dumbass, let's see how that works out for you."
Even funnier aspect of the crucible wings where you fly up in the air does barely any damage and have no super armor
@@dudeiii2069 how evasive is it?
The red passed the vigor check
And the damage reduction + fashion check
Excellent video bro, thank you for this resource!
Thank you for watching!
Bro you're back 😭😭
I’ll try to make more elden ring vids haha
Giant hunt:" You're just a cheap fking nock-off"
Fire Skewer" No no no. I'm the upgrade"
Does it do fire dmg as well? I wonder if it's split
@@KNGDDDE It probably does both on the initial hit and pure Fire on the heavy attack follow up. It's a Flame Art Ash of War, meaning the damage of the followup will scale with your Faith and the Faith scaling of the weapon, making Flame Art much better than Fire or Heavy.
Giant hunt still better for roll catching
Thank you so much bro this is a god send
Thank you for watching!
I didn’t even know the buttslams have superamor!
Yeah its really funny countering aoe spells and skills by sailing tbrough the air and sitting on someones face
@@StrugglerVA truly, one of the most fun images my head can imagine :D
Instant upvote for this video, thx!
Hey man sick!!! straight to point video I love your style , earned a sub
Daaamn we missed you! Thanks for all the valuable information you provided 🔥
I hope to see a video dedicated to colossal swords soon 🤩
Great content that I subscribed for! I'm hoping you'll put out some colossal weapon invasion/duel guides out at some point those are some of my favorites to watch personally. They're hard to use.
I Hope so too
Sadly you're going to have to use an offhand club or something, you will never beat anyone halfway competent with one otherwise. It's crazy to me how shafted this weapon category got compared to colossal swords.
Extremely helpful vid, thanks!
great resource! thank you for your effort and work! subbed.
my thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!
I need the list of the ashes that INFLICT most Poise Damage. Can anyone show me such a vid? Please?
Anything with a knockdown or launch animation interupts any HA outside of superarmor. You're welcome.
Can’t wait for more vids
Very useful guide tyvm
Great content
Bro kick looks crazy, like it’s the perfect counter the the dueling shield for any build that doesn’t already have a way to deal with them
Good video, you're earned a sub
Can you do a similar video on poise damage rankings of the new ashes of war, spells, and incantations? As well as poise levels for new incantations and spells? Would be epic
Working on it soon, got another one coming out on weapons and how things have changed since 1.10
Need to get a buff to many old AOW! Im very optimistic as FS has shown time and time again that they are listening!
Very useful vid, thanks !
How much frames on the stamp AoW btw ?
The initial part or the follow up? Also what frames are you referring to? Hyper armor or super armor?
@@StrugglerVA The initial one, you said it requires "frame perfect" input, I'm curious to know how hard it is to get it
The hero we all needed
flame skewer is my favorite ash of war right now. that shit wrecks
Hey VA, the Fire Greatsword is a colossal that combos into itself.
Aka if one R1 hits, you get another free. Totally busted. Someone killed me with it and I’m like wtf
I know! Crazy right? Theres a lot of broken stuff and developer oversights in this patch for sure
@@StrugglerVA yea they are def gonna release a fast ass patch 😂
unique weapon skills poise tierlist coming?
excelent video, can you make one for incantations that have hyperarmor?
Can you do one for stance damage dealt? The information is so hard to find
Great write-up! How does the rakshasa's ash of war "weed cutter" fit into this?
fun fact: swift slash breaks you out of endure
No it doesn't, you just don't know how to time it right/got bled which cancels even superarmor.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yes it did pre patch , dont know rn
Bleed will poise break (savage) lions claw
Dammit, i completely forgot to mention the segment about status effects in this vid. I think bleed, frost, and other burst type status effects will interrupt most attack animations (and even dodge animations) dont know if they fixed that yet or even touched it. There are a few things that arent in the patch notes that were changed in patch 1.12
Extremely glad to find out about the poise on Igon's Drake Hunt now, rather than run into it like a dumbass later
im really curious about the unique ashes or war. like golden crux, solitary moon slash, white light charge etc...
Thats on the to do list. Need a whole video for all the unique weapon skills
Ah man I wish this included the poise damage ashes of war do as well... well it was somewhat helpful.
Can we get a video on the poise ranking of the new weapon types in the dlc ?
already ahead of you. drops this Saturday i believe
@@StrugglerVA yeah you’re the goat ty !!
rip this video when the first patch comes out
THANK YOU!
I have a question. if I use the ash of war that has hyper armor(such as storm blade) with an weapon that has hyper armor such as great sword(two-handed), then the ash of war is less canceled by attacks of the enemy than when using the same ash with a weapon that has no hyper armor such as katana?
I still gotta finish the dlc, but I’ll be back here when I’m done 🫡
Godspeed! May no spoilers come to you
@@StrugglerVAgreat vid, thx :)
Hes back
They powercrept a lot of things, death's poker, giant hunt, lions claw, the thorn sorceries, quickstep, BHS, most colossals (well that isnt a high bar), full bullgoats, vykes dragonbolt, frost dragon breath, rosus axe (again not a huge loss lol), dual curved swords and the claymore
Just off the top of my mind
Well some of the examples you chose are not necessarily strictly better, for example ghostflame ash has terrible dmg compared to its version on the deathpoker, and savage lions claw has to hit with both parts to have comparable stance dmg to regular lions claw which is 36. It’s better and easier to just use lions claw twice for almost double the stance dmg than what SLC can do in its best case scenario.
I really was taken aback by the inclusion of eternal sleep pots and greases. No clue why they felt we needed a new sleep status that does slightly more fp damage to opponents, but hey more sleep consumable are nice i guess
@@Chonus savage lions claw is just way better imo. The bane of having to hit with both parts of the stance isnt as bad bc hit 1 will true combo into hit 2 (and some quick offhand weapons) also, after the initial leap, you can cancel into crouch, guard, and attack way faster than with regular lions claw. This opens up a few more opportunities for aggression depending on what defensive option your opponent chooses. Try to crouch cancel after the initial leap and follow up with a crouch poke to contest roll ins, and a crouch running heavy to contest roll outs. Has helped me out quite a bit. However, lions claw pancaking on the initial strike is very valuable in some situations
@@StrugglerVA Those are some good points for pvp, although my post was only in regards to pve, should have clarified.
@@Chonus both shred through enemy posture health in pve, i always keep a greatsword with both lions claw and savage lions claw, it may be a little excessive haha
bro how does palmblast have so much poise like, ur just a guy looking at your hand for 2 sec
it's the power of anime
Miyazaki must have liked that skill
Your resolve is simply too strong to interrupt
For the HA Level Three Tier, where can I learn the hyper armor values of my weapon? I probably shouldn't put chilling mist on my milady if I want it to have some hyper armor?
chilling mist would still be pretty good for milady i think, the buff alone is super worth. Probably wont be able to trade with most weapons though. Im using cheat engine to find out the poise numbers but chilling mist on milady will give you a flat 60 poise which is added to your armor poise, and will reduce incoming poise damage by 35%
@@StrugglerVA I don't plan to use it for PvP anyways. I run around 51-60 poise so it sounds like it should be enough for me to poise 2 light hits or 1 strong hit in PvE, which is good enough I think. Thanks for your reply.
Welcome back King! Best AoW to counter Swift Slash?
How do you make your Dragon slayer swing so fast?
Is there a list of all Ashes of War that regenerate your poise when used?
Anything that uses a numerical value on this list, you're welcome.
Kick on Perfume Bottle? Is it goated or am I just getting lucky.
man... they didn't touched spinning strikes in the last patch (except for the "bug" with bloodflame blade incantation), that aow is almost useless in pvp.
also i've seen that a some of people uses phantom slash as a "trading tool", it seems that the phantom appears on frame 1, so if you trigger the AoW just before getting hitstun, the phantom will appear, and depending on the reaction of the opponent, it will stager him so you can take advantage of it with one of your own attacks.
Charge forth and spinning strikes should really get buffed. I wish fromsoft put me in charge for pvp balance lol
Hey man can you do a vid about the best ashes of war from the dlc for ultra greatswords?
Might have to do an update including all the ashes of war. There are only 25 ashes that were added in dlc and to my knowledge, only a handful of them are usable on colossal swords. And an even larger portion are locked to specific weapon classes
@@StrugglerVA could you make a vid about those ashes of war and how to use them at their fullest? Like you did for the sweep and upper cut Ash of war
Dude in PVE all colossal ashes pretty good. It’s only PVP, where a lot of ashes fall short
Does kick's values benefit in any way from new DLC talisman? The one that improves kicks.
As far as i know, i believe you get like a little more damage on kick. From like 25 to like 37 or something. Super insignificant
@@StrugglerVA That's a bummer. Thanks!
Goat
does this hyper armor added aour armor ?. so if ı have 50 poise and use troll roar. will ı have 550 poise? so with bull goat ı can even withstand againt 2h collossal heavy jump atk. if only calculate on 500 poise it is not enough.
@@huseyinakkoc1062 sorry for not clarifying, the poise value that is displayed is the FINAL value you have during your hyper armor. Armor poise does not matter at all when using the skills that have a numerical value displayed in the left column of the tier list. If your armor poise is 50, your bonus for troll roar will be 500. If your armor poise is 0, your poise bonus for troll roar will be 500. Trolls roar and the rest of the numerically labeled ashes will reduce incoming poise damage by 50% which essentially allows you to withstand 1000 poise damage
“Shadow” of the Erdtree
Thank you for pointing that out. Fat fingered my keyboard haha
I only play pve but thank you for your service o7
Anything that uses super armor absolutely trivializes pve
Wait.... How'd you used Gravity Thrust with Greatsword? 😮
You can use it on colossals. Combine with bleed infusion and ironjar/blackflame protection to trivialize the game.
Its funny you said rip Giant hunt, the new ash didnt feel as good.
The speed takes away from the (insert Igon dialouge) part 💀😂😭
It's still better for PvP while giant hunt remains king in PvE. The infinite stunlock from humanoids getting back up and higher stance damage is invaluable.
Great video...Now make a list of best pvp weapons in 1.12
what RL is this?
1.10 hyperarmor wasnt bad but omg i cant stand how it is now. We're back to useless ds3 poise 😢
I don't care who they send. I'm not getting staggered.
I REFUSE!!!
The dlc is hot garbage and extremely underwhelming! Anyone aggree?
No! 😁
Lowest quality bait
I like the bosses but ER sure doesn't respect the players time
No estoy de acuerdo, es un DLC divertido, recordar q es una expansión no un juego base.
that's a big L take