Times Up For These Statics
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Times Up For These Statics
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We had a new caravan a few years ago and the site owners would only allow a decking if they arranged purchase & fitting, plus we wanted some blinds fitting and they would only allow a supplier approved by them onto the site. Many more rules & regulations geared to them not us, hence we sold up and have never regretted it.
We were going to buy one at haven in cleethorpes- the ground rent was extortionate and we had to buy the veranda off them! We walked away and got a little caravan instead - no regrets.
Ridiculous rule, as long as the van is not looking bad, they should be allowed to stay
Here in Wales it’s often a 10 year old rule before they have to be moved. If you get 20 years from a caravan you’re really lucky.
I don’t have a static myself for this reason - and the site fees !! I stick with a 12 month seasonal pitch with a twin axle caravan which is almost the same size as a static. You can use it as much as you want.
The sites are a money making enterprise so they will keep moving caravans on.
We looked at getting a van at a site in Dornoch.
For the same price as it was in 2012 ( 25 grand) we bought a renovated detached house in Bulgaria with a vineyard and space to park 35 cars on.
One year's site fees pays ten years of bills here, probably more.
You have other costs though, we use our caravan at some point in a week around 35 times a year, we have a 45 minute car journey, if we did the same as you and were not living there we would have to pay for 35 return flights and car hire.
I cannot believe you are saving to buy another one !
It’s racket. It looks like an attractive alternative to bricks and sticks but ground rent, maintenance and elevated utility costs make it more expensive than you’d expect. The winners are the park owners. Good luck mate, look after yourself. 💐
the industry needs a major overhaul, I looked into getting a pitch on a site, after reading about the potential costs and the behaviour of some site owners, i changed my mind. All the power in with the site owner, as a customer i reject that.
The reason site owners want a change every 20 years is so they can makes lot's and lot's of money, they will buy a van from the manufacturer for say £50k less their trade discount add another £5K on top to cover for the hook up costs to gas, electricity, water and sewerage, and then charge you an annual site fee. This is a money making racket and you really do not have any security, the so called "contract" in my view is not worth the paper it is written on unless you employ a lawyer to draft one up for you and the site owner will agree to sign it.
@@peterbury1934 totally agree with this comment.
"As long as your van is tidy they won't ask you to move it" yet the ones you've highlighted look neat and tidy and the owners were asked to shift them. I would be concerned
Thanks for the update Ivan, fingers crossed the rules don't change. Thanks for sharing.
never mind holiday parks be great if there were parks you can buy a static van and live in them all year round pay bills like you would in a house or flat.....rather live in a caravan full time than a flat.. its time giving all our cash to landlords that hate doing mantinence when needed they rather rip you of we should have the right to live where we want ...
There are parks like that. They are called residential park homes. They are more expensive to buy the vans as they need to be built to residential specs, but you can live in them year round. You even pay council tax the same as anyone else.
Ivan ,they do the same thing over here in some sites , you all have a good day and thanks
It’s normal to see lots of negative comments regarding static caravan ownership, some from people who have never even owned a van on a site, it’s a shame because it’s going to put many people off who are really missing out. Speaking as someone who does own a van on a site our experience is very positive. Firstly do your homework and find a site that works for you, not too far away from home to put you off as you move forward, visit the site a few times and get a feel for it. Then if you want to go ahead read through all the paperwork and understand what’s in the contract, is there an age limit on the van and if so how long is it, usually 20 years. Many people who are unhappy fail to do this and jump straight in without thinking about the financial obligations. Site fees will rise, gas and electric will rise but if you use it enough you are still getting great value for money. Our site fees for a year are less than we used to pay for one, two week holiday. We’re on a smaller site that’s family owned with stunning views in the Trossachs and could not be happier. Again do your homework, do the maths, take your time, be honest with yourself on how often you will use it.
2004 is 20 years bud, i,d be asking the question and fast. i,m hoping all works out well as you only just got settled .best of luck
Yes but we get a rolling contract based on appearance
Thank you
@@CaravanLifeUK ahhh, great stuff
Lol means nothing to these bandits!!!
Unfortunately these contracts mean absolutely nothing, I have seen some unscrupulous site owners change rules over night. Fingers crossed your site owner isn't like this. 👍🏻
Thanks Ivan for this update, I hope that the site owners are as nice as you say bearing in mind that your caravan is twenty years old. Did you buy the van from the site or did they broker the sale? Take care and all the best. Stevie
Here at Haven Wild Duck in Norfolk, there are currently no age restrictions on vans. But …. we do pay nearly £8k a season (Mar-end of November) for the privilege
@@tonks1968 8k for 9 months...😳...wow I never knew people paid that sort of money on site fee's... I'm shocked..
Unfortunately, site owners want to sell new vans making their commissions etc, doing caravans up inside make no difference to site owner, putting new vans onsite can also improve the look of the site generating more business. Always been like it.
Short and curlies springs to mind. Basically you have a rolling contract, check how much notice they have to give to get you off site. Other worry , which has happened is the whole site gets bought out and the ‘new’ owners can do whatever they want. Hope it works out for you though.
Why people buy these things for a load of money I don't know. It's a depreciating asset, with all sorts of extra costs along the way.
Some people to whom a static caravan is a luxury purchase and have a choice they can afford the costs perhaps ? Others may have no choice . If someone does not own a home , rent is getting expensive if a property can even be found and people pay rent for years with no return on that money ,and can be asked to move out with just a few weeks notice if the landlord sells up
Thank you for your insights to what is happening to your neighbours, appreciated
I was told by a static caravan site owner that after 10 to 12 years the steel chassis starts to rust to the point where the caravan cannot be towed away safely
The cost of taking a static caravan apart on site are horrendous. Hence the reason why site owners do not want these vans to remain permanently on site
Plus they can of or course sell a brand new static to a new tenant
Are people up to date with their site fees? The cost of living crisis is affecting a lot of people, maybe thats why>
Matey said older caravans are kicked off site, there's a age limit at a lot of sites.
Word to the wise, sites flog caravans off dirt cheap, the site fees are astronomical,that's how they sting you, and the fees for moving a ' van are huge too ,plus you have storage to consider. A cheap ' van really isn't........
Hmmmm. What a ridiculous word we live in! These sites make me so angry - everything has to be flash and modern and sod the waste-let lone the heat break that this asinine “rule’ causes. I hope they don’t find any takers for the new ones they will put into the spaces….there as well as here!
Hi , Ivan we had a "van" on a ... Sounds like a fish and an old film star site. Oh yes SHARK DEAN site BUT due to covid every owner was given an extra year on their tenancy. Even the site management had to look this one up, so please tell people to look things up as it might give some one an extra year before being forced off site.
Mine were the Hillbullies 😂
seems utter madness when the vans look well like them 2
There is often a business rationale why site owners want vans moved . They do get commission on sales of new vans and often want to more expensive vans or lodges on prime plots to promote sales . Depreciation of a van is more than depreciation of a car if people pay a lot for a new one. There may be some deterioration after 20 years that’s not obviously visible from the outside so site owners may be worried about health and safety . No matter how nice or even not so owners may be it is a business and it also brings along lots of risk factors when you deal with people so owners don’t generally have to become too sentimental about developing attachments to customers . Interesting though how site fees vary and rules and regulations from one site to another.
What a waste, those vans look in great condition. Ridiculous just to put a number on how many years regardless and with what they charge for new caravans when they will only be allowed on sites for 10 to 20 years it works out very expensive.
blimey things change fast on there very strange rules
It’s so sad because these are people’s homes 😢
The sad part is that the occupants are not owners of their land, instead being subject to the whims of the landlord.
Most sites are 15yrs but be wary of sites that say there is no age limit as they can ask u to remove your va n anytime they can sell u a new van for what the supplier qsks plus their bit on top
One thing I’ve learned in life is “Never say never”…. Good luck …hoping all this doesn’t affect you
I tend to agree be careful what you say. Yes you both work for them but not agreeing with the there principles could make life difficult for you.
Hi i am not saying anything bad about the site just updating people on current events
Thank you
I’d never work for them in case a small misunderstanding/ disagreement leads to ill feeling between both parties.
Thanks for the update. I am sure you will be ok but it does sound worrying hope you are haveing a Lovely Bank holiday weekend God's blessing to all your family x ❤
Isnt this worrying? The unpredictability of it all. Do they have a specific age in mind? " Certain age" is somewhat vague.
It’s like walking on egg shells, I wouldn’t sleep settled at all staying there
Some places only allow 10 years.
Hundreds of people would give their hind teeth to live in one of those given there're housing conditions. And be very happy. 🇬🇧
It does not seem to matter if you buy the dearest holiday home new or the cheapest holiday home Brown new most parks will give you 20 years and no more then they almost become scrap value static caravans are not a good investment
You are not purchasing a van as an investment any more than you are a car, it’s the same thing. You are purchasing memories the same way you are when you pay thousands for a two week holiday abroad.
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so if your van is a 2004 doesnt that make it 21 years old ?
Yes but we get a rolling contract based on appearance
Thank you
And this is the reason we bought a Motorhome when we retired rather than a Static which we always dreamed of & saved up for
Stupid policy , it should depend on the condition of the van surely.
I think it's a commercial policy not a logical one ?
Be careful I’d be really nervous
Wife wants to buy a static, £40k upfront free site fees for rest of this year and next. Hate the thought of being beholden to the site and stuck in the same place. Site fees around £4K a year all in any thoughts…?
If you feel that way Steve don't buy.
there dont seem anything wrong with them
Site licence will tell you,better with a residential home
new people on plot will probally pay more on their contract , that long standing tennants
The owners make their money by forcing people to get new Vans , when people die the family of the owner of the Van cant sell them so the site owner buys it really cheap and then puts a brand new unit on the site and sells it...
They are doing this in the UK for years .
The UK has more rights to help people on these sites thank goodness...
Some owners in Surrey are worh Millions after just a short ownership if land and putting Vans on the site for rent or sale ...
Its not cheap living on these sites you normally have to pay much more for electricity and gas the in site shops are normally expensive.
Yes its a short term thing but it just gets more amd more expensive as time passes .
Lots of silly rules to follow...
When the site owners change hands things are up in the air ...
Most people want to just peace and quiet.
Think its 15 years for mobile holidays homes
appreciate the update ivan; perhaps save if at all possible and get a newer static or an r.v coach or even r.v unit from ccrv uk and get yourselves abroad
90 days only unless he gets a visa, he is skint so no chance of that.
Thank you
Never said i was Skint dont know where you got that from
It's madness if they are in good condition 😢
Have you got the ride on mower back?
I wonder if the "lovely" owner will now cut back the trees to make these removals easier.
That seems very wasteful if the caravan is in good shape.
Do you sign a contract when you have your static in place?
It seems a shame to remove perfectly fine statics due to the age, as long as the upkeep and the area they are on is clean and tidy, what is the issue?
Its sad when people need homes
Static caravans are far too expensive to keep now its like running and paying for a 2nd home it's throwing money away unless you find the lowest site fees site that allows older vans and rent it out when not using it
It's so the site can make more money and sell an overpriced caravan to the old owners or to a new owner.
WHOEVER GOT THE VERANDA GOT AN ABSOLUTE DEAL PROVIDING THE GOT IT FOR FREE, THEY USUALLY COST A SMALL FORTUNE TO BUY.
Yes they did
@@CaravanLifeUK PROBABLY SAVED A COUPLEOF THOUSAND POUNDS AT LEAST.
If I had paid for veranda, is either sell or burn. Wouldn't let site make any money from it.
Those caravans looked pretty ok from the pictures. Surely the caravan site owner could have given the people who had done all the renovation in the caravan ample notice before they spent all the money inside the caravan. Best go through the small print on the contract you signed just to be safe, some contracts are not worth the paper they are printed on, if the owner wants someone off his land, he will just make an excuse to have you evicted.
Im surprised our lot Wyldecrest dont have this policy. My next door neighbour is in a 40 year old shed and they want the plot for a new one - now going for around 200k. However there is nowt int site rules so I assume the owner Alfy Best in Monaco is doin is nut. And the guy next door said hes going nowhere (tbh I wish he would).
You never no it could be you next
Apart from people living in vans ,buying a van for holidays etc is something to be seriously thought about I know we have been there, on the site we were on had next to no facilities, the site fees went up to £5200 a year you needed their permission to get any work on your van down or you paid them to do it, people spend thousands on balconies which were ripped up when the van was sold. We got very little for our van when we sold it to the site it was 12 years old in excellent condition, vans are a money pit not worth bothering with unless you want to say goodbye to thousands of pounds.
Why would anyone buy a caravan on a site in the 1st place. Why don’t you just stay at home. My Van is on rented land with No interfering neighbours, out in the countryside. Life is bliss. The ground rent is nominal as well. It’s a No Brainer.