@@MrDuds1984 He must've known Pryor was on some sort of PED's to endure those clean Argullo fastballs. With that said, Pryor still exhibited immense heart.
Luis Presto , who was trained by Panama Lewis, admitted in a documentary that he took "the mix" in a fight. Presto says its a crushed asthma pill in water that opens up the lungs and gives the fighter new life. Presto said when he took it he was blown away at how quickly he felt rejuvenated. The video of him saying this is on RUclips.
That shit works. After watching the documentary of billy. I tried the mix it works. The water tastes like shit tho. It works fast. If you don't believe me try it. Just spree it in the water and mix it. It feels like you have a tank of oxygen in your nose. Panama cheated this fight. You can test it your self.
Both boys bopped each other,ala Arguello's 13th-round right to Pryor's face,though Alexis missed the follow-up hook,and Pryor/'s steady body-and-head bombs,preceded by his underrated jabs. Arguello's usually great power seemed to have lessened at 140 pounds,as Pryor absorbed a number of Alexis' shots before finishing him in the fourteenth.Great bout by both warriors,but I'd have LOVED to know what was in the mysterious bottle Pryor's trainer,Panama Lewis,mixed.RIP, lads !!!!!
Pryor had never seen a 14th or 15th round before not to mention a 14th and 15th round after taking shots from Alexis Arguello all night. Yet you think the water was mixed with water and Pryor, after getting nearly decapitated in the 13th round just jumps off his stool like it's round 1 "because that's his style, to go all out." ? LOL. Yeah, that sounds nice in theory, but then there's the reality. "Give me the bottle, the one I mixed! The one I mixed!". ;)
Luis Resto was the fighter who was trained by Panama Lewis and had his gloves unpadded by him against the late John Collins in a fight in 1983 . Lewis was a talented trainer but he went too far and "if" he did give Pryor an unfair advantage with illegal substances it tarnishes a great fight .
I do agree that Pryor was a greet boxer, but suing antihistaminic pilds is illegal , Yes he won the second fight fair. This fight took a lot from alexis, you can't compare having more than 80 fights in your record taking and giving punches than having 30 fights, that alexis was more a durable fighter. i beleived if the fight would had been 2 years before and in the lightweight division and without stimulants the outcome coudl had been different.
I don't remember the exact year of the first Pryor v. AA fight, but I think it was around 1982 or 1983. I generally don't bet on sports or anything else, but I knew most people didn't know about 'The Hawk' & that AA was a well-known and well-established fighter & champion. I bet $100 @ 5-1 odds. A lot of money back then, especially for a youngster like myself. After I made the bet, I told anyone that would listen that Pryor (Who?) would beat AA. I'm a Hearns fan, but knew that 'The Hawk
Pryor at welterweight was never tested. Leonard was the bigger guy harder puncher and faster than the ligjweight Arguello. Alexis was a slow puncher and that played against him , he did not knew how to hold
PRYOR was never tested because Sugar Ray, Hearns and the WHOLE DIVISION ran from PRYOR to the Middleweight division. Alexis Aguello was CHAMPION and lost this fight to PRYOR. Why they didn't fight ALEXIS AGUELLO?
"Give me the other bottle, the one I mixed", o really, what did you mix it with? Where did this burst of energy came from after you drank from that "bottle". That was a sad night in Nicaragua's history.
This was a sad night period! History was ROBBED from one of the greatest fighters that ever lived. I named my daughter after this man. What they did to him was criminal!
Alexis Arguello fue un gran boxeador pero no mostró recursos sobre todo a la defensiva, muy estático, los golpes de Pryor entraban sin que Alexis hiciera movimientos de cintura o de cuello...
I believe it because Luis Resto said that Panama Lewis gave him illegal substances either like that or similar to it even in the middle of a fight and also that he knew and was behind the set up against the late Billy Collins Jr.. Lewis is just a snake, period.
+YellowRoseOvTx I usually am on the Hispanic's side when it comes to controversies-since I myself am Hispanic-but in this case yes. I hope Lewis repents before he dies because so far, he is one Hispanic we can all do without.
You can hear Lewis ask for the mixed bottle between the 2nd and 3rd round as well. Why this is never brought to light I don't know. Pryor was benefitting from the mixed bottle the entire bout. It took a fighter as tough,as strong,as powerful, and as skilled as Aaron Pryor ON THE SHIT to defeat Alexis Arguello in 14 brutal rounds. That's how great Alexis Arguello was ,even it being his 1st fight as a Jr.Welter.
The first time i seen that the winner did not was announced and the time by the tko. And Arguello was not interviewed as well. He was out for 4 minutes. Any way i'd new Pryor had a good chin but yes it was suspicious how he was tired at the end of the 12th and 13th rounds and suddenly looks like as fresh as the first round in the 14th round when he ko Arguello. In the rematch Arguello was never the same this fight took a lot out of him
I'll never forget watching this fight. Many people think Hagler-Hearns is the best fight ever, but this one has my vote. Back and forth with tons of heart from both fighters. There shouldn't have been a loser in this fight.
Pryor should had been send to prison after this fight for that bottle, after this fight pryor trainer, removed the padding of his fighter glove ,that cost ,the other boxer life,and Pryor trainer was suspended for life,
Actually there was one boxer that can keep that pace without using stimulants , that was Salvador Sanchez check his fights specially the 15 round fights. Always with his mouth close he told the reporters he could have box 30 rounds.
There's no excuses he beat him twice ...they were all in drugs then even Ray...let's stop the bs ...I like Chavez but if you looker his record he fight most of his fights against Mexican and a few decent American fighters ...Whitaker definitely beat him and would've beat him at any period ...go look at Chavez record ...he didn't fight a lot of top notch Americans
Ok so I've been researching Pryor and watched all his fights since all this hype blossomed recently that he was the best 140 lb. fighter of all time. I just don't see him beating an elite fighter @140 in their prime such as Duran, Benitez and many more. Arguello as we all know stepped up another weight class to fight Pryor which is actually his 4th weight class to step up to. He had been fighting professionally for about 13 yrs.before this fight and was definately past his prime. Arguello had tons of power at the lower weights but stepping up to 140 was a recipe for disaster. Once a fighter keeps moving up in weight he doesn't necessarily gain punching power as was in this case. Had Pryor went down to Arguellos 130 or 135 and were not even having this conversation. Arguello was much slower at 140 also. I see Duran countering Pryor that woild stop Pryor in a bloody mess and k.o. Same with Leonard, there's no f******* way Pryor could touch Leonard it would be Pryor throwing and Leonard countering to Pryors head, another bloody mess with a k.o. or stoppage. The fact is if Pryor fought one of the elite it would have been open season on Pryors head and body. He never fought a champion in their prime. I saw a clip with referee Richard Steele and he was asked if Pryor could have beaten Duran and he just shook his head and chuckled and said no.
pryor was overhyped and overrated. He beat two great fighters. Both older and past their primes. He cheated Arguello and was knocked down by Cervantes. Personally, I think Arguello, in his prime, was better than Duran, Benitez and Leonard. But they were NATURALLY bigger fighters. pryor loses against ALL three of them!
Kankodom really ? knock out Alex the same way, Google this Alex , sugar and Duran later ammited was on cocaine to, Google for your self, I guess the best coke head won.
The second fight slimply was not the same this fight took a lot out of Alexis, and he did not have the heart or the will in the second fight the way he was ko in this fight was frighting he could had die in this fight if 2 or 3 punches more would had landed. I never see a man coming in the 14th round throwing punches at that high speed and precision. Pryor was tired at the end of the 13th round just watch the replay he was gasping for air and just fell on his chair corner.
ALEXIS ARGUELLO SIN DUDAS TENIA MEJOR BOXEO QUE PRYON QUIZAS NO SUPO DOBLEGARLO ASU ESTILO PERO POR ALGO ESTA EN EL SALON DE LA FAMA EL GRAN ALEXIS ARGUELLO R I P
Yes there is footage not shown in the hbo telecast in the hbo documentary about the fight you can see other angles of the fight, but the footage was not shown when he was getting up or even after the fight on his way to the dressingrooms he collapsed again for the terrible beating he received in that 14th round
Alexis was beaten psychology by this street fighter, Alexis had too much class and that's what played against him; he should have just played a little dirty too.
your response failed to answer the question i asked in my comment so i will ask it again. how did pryor get adrenalin in the second fight? i suggest u watch other pryor fights and u will see that his fighting style is to go all out. he fought that way before he even saw panama lewis. u r the one turning a blind eye. look at the pace in which pryor is fighting in the second fight, it is just as fast as the first fight if not faster. did his chin cheat too?
That mixed bottle splashed on the faces of a couple of ringside-rs. It was suppose to be vitamins, but they said it tasted bad. A mix of vitamins would not have tasted bad, but a bottle of speed would. Pryor's people got him out of the building before a piss test...end of story.
Acording to Luis Resto another Panama Lewis fighter he was giving antihistaminic pilds disolve in water to open up the lungs , that was happening since the 2nd round.
for a fighter to keep up this pace since round one " you must have been on crack"......LET me tell you something......In more than 30 years of being in boxing I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN THE MOST SKILLFUL FIGHTER........maintain such a stamina like Aaron Pryor did on this fight.......WAS HE USING something foul on this fight????.....I AM LEANING TO BELIEVE THAT HE DID......no doubt about it.....
Yes he was and wasn't the drink was in the " ammonia " capsules, if you smell ammonia capsules fighters turn away because of the strong smell and Pryor was smelling it like nothing I'm almost sure was cocaine
Si. Prsyo. Legano. Apura. Ley. Prayo. Es. Un. Super estrella. Del. Boxeo. Si prayo. Ledieron de. Esa. Agua milagrosa. Prayo es un. Bociador. M. Y. Lacra del boxeo
But for the way Pryor and his team tainted this classic fight with their confessed act of performance enhancement, this would be, in my view, the best 13+ round fight of the past half century. Along with Ali's epics with Frazier and the Hagler-Hearns maelstrom, this fight belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of megahyped fights that in actuality exceeded expectations.
Anyone who thinks that Pryor could have beaten Duran, Leonard or Hearns must be drunk.It took him 14 rounds to knock out a stationary blown up 125 pound featherweight. Please! PS, y'all must have forgot how Pryor got destroyed by Bobby Joe Young the first time he fought at 147 Welterweight.
The only way Pryor could had been defeat would had been by bigger men . As a solid welterweights with a good punch like Leonard, Hearns, Duran Even Donald Curry. Everybody will agree that Leonard , Hearns and Curry and Duran had better punching power at welter than Arguello. And Leonard was super fast combination puncher.
pryor beat two great fighters in his whole career. Cervantes dropped him twice and he robbed Arguello. And BOTH were old men. ( boxing age that is) pryor was extremely overrated and doesn't deserve to be thought of any differently!
Well, Panama is a mixologist, he actually mixed water with water, and by the way an ejection would take effect in 10 seconds or less. Who knows what he drank before they left the locker room, and just kept adding on thru out the fight.
The second fight Pryor stopped Arguello in 10 rounds I believe, and did it fair and square.The second fight was a different fight with two different fighters. Once you fight a fight like this you're never quite the same again. Pryor was much younger than Arguello ringwise,which of course makes a huge difference after a brutal fight. The second fight is irrlelvant to THIS ONE. I know you're a Pryor fan, as am I. But, don't let your loyalty blind you from an obvious display of cheating by Lewis.
Si asi es fue doloroso ver como perdio alexis incapaz de salirse de las cuerdas. Creo que su valentia hizo que no cayera para darse unos segundos de aire. Se debio haber salido de las cuerdas. De todas formas mucha controversia por el asunto de la bebida que se le dio que contenia parece ser un antihistaminico segun luis resto otro peleador de panama lewis dijo lo agitaban en agua pryor y resto lo tomaron al cansarse y dijo resto se sentia muy bien capsulas de amonia se uso tambien con pryor
Una pelea muy dura para Alexis, por puntos hubiera ganado, como lo dije y sostengo : solo drogado le pudo ganar aaron, una vetguenza el y su manager para este deporte, lastima que la comision de box no revisara esa pelea
Pryor estaba ganando en 2 tarjetas por 3 puntos 127 a 124 y arguello en otra tarjeta por 2 puntos 125 a 123. Voy a abrir un website con 4 peleas memorables pero controversiales estoy haciendo un estudio a fondo de estas 4 peleas incluyendo esta pryor vs arguello. esperen 1 mes
You're also a fool if you don't think that Panama Lewis felt that whatever was in that bottle, wasn't going to benefit Pryor or give him an edge, otherwise he wouldn't have mixed it. As I said, Pryor was benefitting from whatever it was from as early as the second round on where you can hear Lewis ask for it between the 2nd and 3rd round and then again between the 13th and 14th round. Pryor wasn't fighting Akio Kameda, he was fighting Alexis Arguello. A man known for closing the show.
Asi es estaba cansado puedes ver despues cuando tira una derecha Pryor sin fuerza, que se recarga sobre Arguello. Si alexis pudo morir en ese round 14th 2 o 3 golpes mas y hubiera sido una desgracia. A diferencia de la de castillo vs corrales la primera pelea que paro rapido el combate el referi. Dejo a Pryor tirar 2 o 3 golpes mas innecesarios.
The sad thing is, the stuff in the black bottle....it could have all been cleared up with the drug test after the fight. Both fighters were supposed to be tested and they didn't do the test, so this great battle will forever be shrouded in the mystery of WHAT WAS IN THE BLACK BOTTLE. Sad.
When the Cincinnati Kid was at his best Aaron Pryor was unbeatable a punching machine do punches from all angles and could take a punch that's was never mentioned and prior had a kid he took Alexis's best shot and kept punching that's how he want
Thats the thing, and Ive always been an Arguello fan. Pryor was an animal, thats why Ray Leonard ducked his ass. Arguello ruled the 70s and the division below, Pryor and he alone was too much for him. The rematch only went 10 rds and believe me they were watching AP like a "hawk". S.F.
@@jomic9060 You can google all you want...... or you can take lil max kellerman's ignorance to heart. But I am telling you, he was vastly overrated AND a known cheat. If that is how YOU think you acquire greatness, that's pretty pathetic. Why don't YOU go back and look at his record? And then YOU tell me he was p4p. That's just stupid.
No one ever credits Pryors chin in this fight. He took four or five shots from Arguello that could've ended it and he shrugged them off. Damn the water bottle this fight should've been over by then.
Then you don't know his history. He was dropped by Cervantes, Johnson and Kameda. None of those packed anywhere near the power Arguello did. He was also rocked by Montilla and Hart and knocked down twice and out by Young. Not the chin people seem to think he had!
@@constantine7382 I do well know his history. Which is why I said "in this fight". Not that he had a great chin in general. But this fight he should've been rocked by those shots
Pryor and arguello were different outside the ring. Arguello was killed in Nicaragua, fighting for his people, Pryor died in the streets of Cincinnati as a addict, to heroin and crack. Rest in peace arguello.
to the new school, Pryor amateur record was 204 win's 16 lost tired of people saying his amazing stamina, as a kid, before he turns pro , they said the same thing, before he turns 18 , every body says ,he had incredible stamina, this was before he turns pro, he could knock u out with the left or right hand, guess what, he beat Alex, the same way he knock out 31 people. lost only one fight two years after he retired, best pounds for pounds ever, that why he in the boxing hall of fame.
Overrated fighter that often had to get up from the canvas to win. Great chin? Don't think so. He beat two REAL fighters and both were older fighters. And he was troubled by both. Cervantes dropped him and Arguello was cheated. He is NOT deserving of the Hall of Fame!
All these people on here talking about a the bottle. What the fuck a bottle have to do with all those punches landing on his head. Give that man some credit...he whipped his ass fair and sq. Why no one say anything about the 2nd fight...whipped that ass again the same way.
I am a bodybuilder and i have taken many supplements.I am also a expert on stimulants and other performance enhancing drugs.The other bottle given to Aaron Pryor didn't have enough time to get into his bloodsteam to give him any advantage in this fight if it really was something that was suppose to help him.I find it hilarious for anyone with any brain cells to think that a sip of a bottle and 5 seconds later you have the strenght and stamina of a lion.Shit please tell me where i can get that.
So a guy who was dropped twice by Cervantes, once by Johnson, once by Kameda, was rocked by Montilla and Gataan Hart, of all people stood up to the punches of a true one punch guy? That punch in the 13th finishes anybody. A guy, Alexis, that actually dropped middleweights while training for this fight. And there are still idiots that think this was on the up and up? And oh, by the way, according to Ring magazine, pryor REFUSED the post fight urine test. And you think this lying cheat DESERVES to be remembered as a great? Pathetic.
In case you guys didn't know, Pryor was a cocaine user at this time and around 7:23 his ringman asks for the "other bottle" that "he mixed", then it appears that he puts something up to Pryor's nose as well. Pryor was coked out when he knocked out Arguello lol
The thig Pryor was smelling was ammonia capsules or smelting salts, the bottle contained antihistamine capsules mix with water to open up the longs in the later rounds
Thisisbeptv Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Arguello was doped that night, but there is unquestionable evidence, caught on camera, that Pryor drank some special Kool-Aid that gave him extraordinary energy when both boxers, as seen on the video, were gassed out. It was juts a matter of time and sooner or later one of them was going to quit, but not in the way everyone anticipated. Nonetheless a classic yet controversial match in boxing history. RIP Arguello.
14TH ROUND dude took all he could handle. previous round he only hit aaron clean with the one big shot, dude was getting HIS head snapped all night from aaron......legitimate certified asss whoopin'
one of the best fights ever watched this one with my pops two great warriors no dancing no running straight up fighting.
I remember watching this live whenever this was (late 70's?). Still the greatest fight I've ever seen.
buckfan1969 This fight was November 12 1982
@@danielburress5088 Everyone was snorting a lot of coke in the 80's. Boxing fans included. Messed up their memories from that decade.
5:30 is one of my favorite punches of all time
Alexis had to know that after Pryor took that shot it was over for him
@@MrDuds1984 He must've known Pryor was on some sort of PED's to endure those clean Argullo fastballs.
With that said, Pryor still exhibited immense heart.
I think you are right , this fight should be no contest
NO WAY Floyd beats this guy!
Luis Presto , who was trained by Panama Lewis, admitted in a documentary that he took "the mix" in a fight. Presto says its a crushed asthma pill in water that opens up the lungs and gives the fighter new life. Presto said when he took it he was blown away at how quickly he felt rejuvenated. The video of him saying this is on RUclips.
Yes was dangerous the way arguello was taking punches against the rope the fight should had been stope 3 or 4 punches before the end
That shit works. After watching the documentary of billy. I tried the mix it works. The water tastes like shit tho. It works fast. If you don't believe me try it. Just spree it in the water and mix it. It feels like you have a tank of oxygen in your nose. Panama cheated this fight. You can test it your self.
Both boys bopped each other,ala Arguello's 13th-round right to Pryor's face,though Alexis missed the follow-up hook,and Pryor/'s steady body-and-head bombs,preceded by his underrated jabs. Arguello's usually great power seemed to have lessened at 140 pounds,as Pryor absorbed a number of Alexis' shots before finishing him in the fourteenth.Great bout by both warriors,but I'd have LOVED to know what was in the mysterious bottle Pryor's trainer,Panama Lewis,mixed.RIP, lads !!!!!
Is there any footage of Arguello getting up from the ko?
Pryor had never seen a 14th or 15th round before not to mention a 14th and 15th round after taking shots from Alexis Arguello all night. Yet you think the water was mixed with water and Pryor, after getting nearly decapitated in the 13th round just jumps off his stool like it's round 1 "because that's his style, to go all out." ? LOL. Yeah, that sounds nice in theory, but then there's the reality.
"Give me the bottle, the one I mixed! The one I mixed!".
;)
Luis Resto was the fighter who was trained by Panama Lewis and had his gloves unpadded by him against the late John Collins in a fight in 1983 . Lewis was a talented trainer but he went too far and "if" he did give Pryor an unfair advantage with illegal substances it tarnishes a great fight .
7:25 "Give me the water bottle, the one I mixed" -- What was in that water?
ILLIGAL DRUGS, STEROID, SPEED, CHEATING STUFF TO GIVE HIM A BIG BOOST A BIG RUSH TO BE AMMUNE TO PUNCHES AND HAVE EXTRA INSTANT STAMINA
Panama is a cheating shit, the fight should've been a no contest
I do agree that Pryor was a greet boxer, but suing antihistaminic pilds is illegal , Yes he won the second fight fair. This fight took a lot from alexis, you can't compare having more than 80 fights in your record taking and giving punches than having 30 fights, that alexis was more a durable fighter. i beleived if the fight would had been 2 years before and in the lightweight division and without stimulants the outcome coudl had been different.
I don't remember the exact year of the first Pryor v. AA fight, but I think it was around 1982 or 1983.
I generally don't bet on sports or anything else, but I knew most people didn't know about 'The Hawk' & that AA was a well-known and well-established fighter & champion.
I bet $100 @ 5-1 odds. A lot of money back then, especially for a youngster like myself.
After I made the bet, I told anyone that would listen that Pryor (Who?) would beat AA.
I'm a Hearns fan, but knew that 'The Hawk
Pryor at welterweight was never tested. Leonard was the bigger guy harder puncher and faster than the ligjweight Arguello. Alexis was a slow puncher and that played against him , he did not knew how to hold
PRYOR was never tested because Sugar Ray, Hearns and the WHOLE DIVISION ran from PRYOR to the Middleweight division. Alexis Aguello was CHAMPION and lost this fight to PRYOR. Why they didn't fight ALEXIS AGUELLO?
"Give me the other bottle, the one I mixed", o really, what did you mix it with? Where did this burst of energy came from after you drank from that "bottle". That was a sad night in Nicaragua's history.
This was a sad night period! History was ROBBED from one of the greatest fighters that ever lived. I named my daughter after this man. What they did to him was criminal!
Sugar Ray wanted nothing to do with Aaron Pryor !!
Alexis Arguello fue un gran boxeador pero no mostró recursos sobre todo a la defensiva, muy estático, los golpes de Pryor entraban sin que Alexis hiciera movimientos de cintura o de cuello...
hermano aun si arguello fue el rival mas dificil de pryor dicho por el mismo
what happened in the second fight?
Panama Lewis in between rounds "Aaron, one line or two?"
Thing is Aaron admitted he was on cocaine for this fight.... The shot at 5:30 of video, would have knock any boxer out!
@GonnaFly what ever pryors trainer mixed in that bottle i want some that is all...
Panama Lewis, Pryor's corner, admitted in court 5 years later that he had given speed to Pryor; otherwise, Alexis would had beat him.
I believe it because Luis Resto said that Panama Lewis gave him illegal substances either like that or similar to it even in the middle of a fight and also that he knew and was behind the set up against the late Billy Collins Jr.. Lewis is just a snake, period.
+YellowRoseOvTx I usually am on the Hispanic's side when it comes to controversies-since I myself am Hispanic-but in this case yes. I hope Lewis repents before he dies because so far, he is one Hispanic we can all do without.
Ralph Smith he did?
Panama was giving the mix water since the 2nd round watch the fight
You can hear Lewis ask for the mixed bottle between the 2nd and 3rd round as well. Why this is never brought to light I don't know. Pryor was benefitting from the mixed bottle the entire bout. It took a fighter as tough,as strong,as powerful, and as skilled as Aaron Pryor ON THE SHIT to defeat Alexis Arguello in 14 brutal rounds. That's how great Alexis Arguello was ,even it being his 1st fight as a Jr.Welter.
It was his second fight at jr. welter but your point is spot on. I have often wondered that myself.
the best response on any boxing video regarding pryor and alexis. that is pure science u r speaking, but truth is not what some of these people want.
The first time i seen that the winner did not was announced and the time by the tko. And Arguello was not interviewed as well. He was out for 4 minutes. Any way i'd new Pryor had a good chin but yes it was suspicious how he was tired at the end of the 12th and 13th rounds and suddenly looks like as fresh as the first round in the 14th round when he ko Arguello. In the rematch Arguello was never the same this fight took a lot out of him
Alexis Arquello the greatest super feather weight in history.
Thank goodness Alexis was ok. Pryor was a machine with a chin . Great great fight, both legends.
I don't know I still have questions about that mixed BOTTLE. Pryor looked like he could still go another fifteen rounds.
Not that one...the one I mixed..(Panama Lewis)
I'll never forget watching this fight. Many people think Hagler-Hearns is the best fight ever, but this one has my vote. Back and forth with tons of heart from both fighters. There shouldn't have been a loser in this fight.
Pryor should had been send to prison after this fight for that bottle, after this fight pryor trainer, removed the padding of his fighter glove ,that cost ,the other boxer life,and Pryor trainer was suspended for life,
Actually there was one boxer that can keep that pace without using stimulants , that was Salvador Sanchez check his fights specially the 15 round fights. Always with his mouth close he told the reporters he could have box 30 rounds.
There's no excuses he beat him twice ...they were all in drugs then even Ray...let's stop the bs ...I like Chavez but if you looker his record he fight most of his fights against Mexican and a few decent American fighters ...Whitaker definitely beat him and would've beat him at any period ...go look at Chavez record ...he didn't fight a lot of top notch Americans
Ok so I've been researching Pryor and watched all his fights since all this hype blossomed recently that he was the best 140 lb. fighter of all time. I just don't see him beating an elite fighter @140 in their prime such as Duran, Benitez and many more. Arguello as we all know stepped up another weight class to fight Pryor which is actually his 4th weight class to step up to. He had been fighting professionally for about 13 yrs.before this fight and was definately past his prime. Arguello had tons of power at the lower weights but stepping up to 140 was a recipe for disaster. Once a fighter keeps moving up in weight he doesn't necessarily gain punching power as was in this case. Had Pryor went down to Arguellos 130 or 135 and were not even having this conversation. Arguello was much slower at 140 also. I see Duran countering Pryor that woild stop Pryor in a bloody mess and k.o. Same with Leonard, there's no f******* way Pryor could touch Leonard it would be Pryor throwing and Leonard countering to Pryors head, another bloody mess with a k.o. or stoppage. The fact is if Pryor fought one of the elite it would have been open season on Pryors head and body. He never fought a champion in their prime. I saw a clip with referee Richard Steele and he was asked if Pryor could have beaten Duran and he just shook his head and chuckled and said no.
Arguello made mince meat out of Costello years after Pryor
pryor was overhyped and overrated. He beat two great fighters. Both older and past their primes. He cheated Arguello and was knocked down by Cervantes. Personally, I think Arguello, in his prime, was better than Duran, Benitez and Leonard. But they were NATURALLY bigger fighters. pryor loses against ALL three of them!
05:31 THAT WAS BRUTAL!! It's when you realize Pryor is high
Kankodom really ? knock out Alex the same way, Google this Alex , sugar and Duran later ammited was on cocaine to, Google for your self, I guess the best coke head won.
The second fight slimply was not the same this fight took a lot out of Alexis, and he did not have the heart or the will in the second fight the way he was ko in this fight was frighting he could had die in this fight if 2 or 3 punches more would had landed. I never see a man coming in the 14th round throwing punches at that high speed and precision. Pryor was tired at the end of the 13th round just watch the replay he was gasping for air and just fell on his chair corner.
ALEXIS ARGUELLO SIN DUDAS TENIA MEJOR BOXEO QUE PRYON QUIZAS NO SUPO DOBLEGARLO ASU ESTILO PERO POR ALGO ESTA EN EL SALON DE LA FAMA EL GRAN ALEXIS ARGUELLO R I P
The best quality of ...white sniff !!!😊😊😊
Yes there is footage not shown in the hbo telecast in the hbo documentary about the fight you can see other angles of the fight, but the footage was not shown when he was getting up or even after the fight on his way to the dressingrooms he collapsed again for the terrible beating he received in that 14th round
Alexis was beaten psychology by this street fighter, Alexis had too much class and that's what played against him; he should have just played a little dirty too.
JC 1 Cincinnati ghetto thug
Mark Symbala what makes him a ghetto thug?
Alexis got away with a ton of low blows, I think that is dirty enough.
your response failed to answer the question i asked in my comment so i will ask it again. how did pryor get adrenalin in the second fight? i suggest u watch other pryor fights and u will see that his fighting style is to go all out. he fought that way before he even saw panama lewis. u r the one turning a blind eye. look at the pace in which pryor is fighting in the second fight, it is just as fast as the first fight if not faster. did his chin cheat too?
Aaron the hawk Pryor AKA The Cincinnati Kid rest in peace Hawk
That mixed bottle splashed on the faces of a couple of ringside-rs. It was suppose to be vitamins, but they said it tasted bad. A mix of vitamins would not have tasted bad, but a bottle of speed would. Pryor's people got him out of the building before a piss test...end of story.
how did pryor get adrenalin in the second fight? what excuse do u have for that one? a tired fighter gets pumped up when they hurt another fighter.
Acording to Luis Resto another Panama Lewis fighter he was giving antihistaminic pilds disolve in water to open up the lungs , that was happening since the 2nd round.
This fight post humounsly should be declared no contest in honor both fighters especially Alexis Arguello
for a fighter to keep up this pace since round one " you must have been on crack"......LET me tell you something......In more than 30 years of being in boxing I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN THE MOST SKILLFUL FIGHTER........maintain such a stamina like Aaron Pryor did on this fight.......WAS HE USING something foul on this fight????.....I AM LEANING TO BELIEVE THAT HE DID......no doubt about it.....
Yes he was and wasn't the drink was in the " ammonia " capsules, if you smell ammonia capsules fighters turn away because of the strong smell and Pryor was smelling it like nothing I'm almost sure was cocaine
Don't lean that way. Accept it. Crash course from p. lewis, master cheat!
KILLER INSTINCT. Aaron Hawk Pryor.
I dont know who can beat that man when he was at his best ,just a non stop fighter,i love ray but thats why he never fought him
John anthony a welterweight not lightweights or jr welterweights
Si. Prsyo. Legano. Apura. Ley. Prayo. Es. Un. Super estrella. Del. Boxeo. Si prayo. Ledieron de. Esa. Agua milagrosa. Prayo es un. Bociador. M. Y. Lacra del boxeo
Hey, what's in the bottle man? WHAT'S IN THAT BOTTLE HE MIXED?!? Did they pop open a can of whoop-ass?
+The Kush Connoisseur Probably asthma medicine.
El flaco era un maestro de boxeo y valor en el ring. Fue su pelea perfecta sino miren los golpes que da
But for the way Pryor and his team tainted this classic fight with their confessed act of performance enhancement, this would be, in my view, the best 13+ round fight of the past half century.
Along with Ali's epics with Frazier and the Hagler-Hearns maelstrom, this fight belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of megahyped fights that in actuality exceeded expectations.
12:00 Sugar Ray I don't know where he got the energy from?
Santino, Sal Sanchez fought a fast paced fight for 15 rounds , just like Pryor.
Ref ... Two punches earlier would of been the best but good stoppage for those days
Anyone who thinks that Pryor could have beaten Duran, Leonard or Hearns must be drunk.It took him 14 rounds to knock out a stationary blown up 125 pound featherweight. Please! PS, y'all must have forgot how Pryor got destroyed by Bobby Joe Young the first time he fought at 147 Welterweight.
Pryor paid for his crime against arguello, he died a broken down,drug addict in the streets of Cincinnati, that's what I call guilt.
The only way Pryor could had been defeat would had been by bigger men . As a solid welterweights with a good punch like Leonard, Hearns, Duran Even Donald Curry. Everybody will agree that Leonard , Hearns and Curry and Duran had better punching power at welter than Arguello. And Leonard was super fast combination puncher.
This fight took a lot of Arguello and i believe a lot of Pryor after the second fight with Arguello. Pryor failed to ko Niki Furlano And Gary Hinton
pryor beat two great fighters in his whole career. Cervantes dropped him twice and he robbed Arguello. And BOTH were old men. ( boxing age that is) pryor was extremely overrated and doesn't deserve to be thought of any differently!
Aaron Pryor looks like the reading rainbow guy
Well, Panama is a mixologist, he actually mixed water with water, and by the way an ejection would take effect in 10 seconds or less. Who knows what he drank before they left the locker room, and just kept adding on thru out the fight.
Damm cheat the bottle the one I mixed WTF
The second fight Pryor stopped Arguello in 10 rounds I believe, and did it fair and square.The second fight was a different fight with two different fighters. Once you fight a fight like this you're never quite the same again. Pryor was much younger than Arguello ringwise,which of course makes a huge difference after a brutal fight. The second fight is irrlelvant to THIS ONE. I know you're a Pryor fan, as am I. But, don't let your loyalty blind you from an obvious display of cheating by Lewis.
Aaron the hawk Pryor that's how he won this fight he had a tremendous chin and tremendous heart he was a punching machine sometimes Unstoppable
And cheating
And yet STOPPED by fringe contender Bobby Joe Young. Yeah, great chin and unstoppable? LOL
아론프라이어가 워낙 스피드가 빠른데다가 맷집까지 있으니 아르게요가 도저히 감당이 안됐지! 저게 벌써 35년전이니...
Si asi es fue doloroso ver como perdio alexis incapaz de salirse de las cuerdas. Creo que su valentia hizo que no cayera para darse unos segundos de aire. Se debio haber salido de las cuerdas. De todas formas mucha controversia por el asunto de la bebida que se le dio que contenia parece ser un antihistaminico segun luis resto otro peleador de panama lewis dijo lo agitaban en agua pryor y resto lo tomaron al cansarse y dijo resto se sentia muy bien capsulas de amonia se uso tambien con pryor
Una pelea muy dura para Alexis, por puntos hubiera ganado, como lo dije y sostengo : solo drogado le pudo ganar aaron, una vetguenza el y su manager para este deporte, lastima que la comision de box no revisara esa pelea
alexis aeguello boxeador serio y honesto...aaron pryor boxeador fanfarron.tramposo
CARLOS DIAZ pero me lo culearon
저작은체구로대단하군천재로다천재
Pryor estaba ganando en 2 tarjetas por 3 puntos 127 a 124 y arguello en otra tarjeta por 2 puntos 125 a 123. Voy a abrir un website con 4 peleas memorables pero controversiales estoy haciendo un estudio a fondo de estas 4 peleas incluyendo esta pryor vs arguello. esperen 1 mes
You're also a fool if you don't think that Panama Lewis felt that whatever was in that bottle, wasn't going to benefit Pryor or give him an edge, otherwise he wouldn't have mixed it. As I said, Pryor was benefitting from whatever it was from as early as the second round on where you can hear Lewis ask for it between the 2nd and 3rd round and then again between the 13th and 14th round. Pryor wasn't fighting Akio Kameda, he was fighting Alexis Arguello. A man known for closing the show.
Kameda put him on his ass and Arguello couldn't? Yeah nothing to see here!
Asi es estaba cansado puedes ver despues cuando tira una derecha Pryor sin fuerza, que se recarga sobre Arguello. Si alexis pudo morir en ese round 14th 2 o 3 golpes mas y hubiera sido una desgracia. A diferencia de la de castillo vs corrales la primera pelea que paro rapido el combate el referi. Dejo a Pryor tirar 2 o 3 golpes mas innecesarios.
The sad thing is, the stuff in the black bottle....it could have all been cleared up with the drug test after the fight. Both fighters were supposed to be tested and they didn't do the test, so this great battle will forever be shrouded in the mystery of WHAT WAS IN THE BLACK BOTTLE. Sad.
Outstanding a excellent boxing match !!!
Pryor did not win this fight he was a drug cheat its that basic.
randall smashed chavez, so a prime pryor would have killed him. sweet pea also schooled chavez, so much for toughest ever.
That's funny.
When the Cincinnati Kid was at his best Aaron Pryor was unbeatable a punching machine do punches from all angles and could take a punch that's was never mentioned and prior had a kid he took Alexis's best shot and kept punching that's how he want
pryor always fought that way. go look at the rematch.
Thats the thing, and Ive always been an Arguello fan. Pryor was an animal, thats why Ray Leonard ducked his ass. Arguello ruled the 70s and the division below, Pryor and he alone was too much for him. The rematch only went 10 rds and believe me they were watching AP like a "hawk".
S.F.
Alcohol can be detected 7 seconds after you drink it in your fingertips...
ive heard pryor "cheated" . i dont know. maybe he did. but whether he did or not he is called the greatest junior welterweight of all time.
NO ONE calls him that. What a joke.
@@constantine7382 y don't u Google the top ten junior welterweights of all time b4 u comment. You're the joke
@@jomic9060 You can google all you want...... or you can take lil max kellerman's ignorance to heart. But I am telling you, he was vastly overrated AND a known cheat. If that is how YOU think you acquire greatness, that's pretty pathetic. Why don't YOU go back and look at his record? And then YOU tell me he was p4p. That's just stupid.
@@constantine7382 again, u stated your ignorance. So, I'm done commenting. Have your baseless last word
@@jomic9060 Your done because you don't know his record. facts are facts.
No one ever credits Pryors chin in this fight. He took four or five shots from Arguello that could've ended it and he shrugged them off. Damn the water bottle this fight should've been over by then.
Then you don't know his history. He was dropped by Cervantes, Johnson and Kameda. None of those packed anywhere near the power Arguello did. He was also rocked by Montilla and Hart and knocked down twice and out by Young. Not the chin people seem to think he had!
@@constantine7382 I do well know his history. Which is why I said "in this fight". Not that he had a great chin in general. But this fight he should've been rocked by those shots
@@KungFuMunkeyz And why do you think he wasn't?
well said
@edecanestijuana second wind my boy? Pryor was a very special fighter and special American fighters always defeat foreigners it's in the blood.
Pryor and arguello were different outside the ring. Arguello was killed in Nicaragua, fighting for his people, Pryor died in the streets of Cincinnati as a addict, to heroin and crack. Rest in peace arguello.
alexis did lines too
Only drugs stop Arquello ❤️
to the new school, Pryor amateur record was 204 win's 16 lost tired of people saying his amazing stamina, as a kid, before he turns pro , they said the same thing, before he turns 18 , every body says ,he had incredible stamina, this was before he turns pro, he could knock u out with the left or right hand, guess what, he beat Alex, the same way he knock out 31 people. lost only one fight two years after he retired, best pounds for pounds ever, that why he in the boxing hall of fame.
Overrated fighter that often had to get up from the canvas to win. Great chin? Don't think so. He beat two REAL fighters and both were older fighters. And he was troubled by both. Cervantes dropped him and Arguello was cheated. He is NOT deserving of the Hall of Fame!
I wonder if Panama Lewis hadn't gave him that mix in the bottle who would have won if it went 15 rounds
All these people on here talking about a the bottle. What the fuck a bottle have to do with all those punches landing on his head. Give that man some credit...he whipped his ass fair and sq. Why no one say anything about the 2nd fight...whipped that ass again the same way.
Panama Lewis should have been put to sleep like the mad dog he was...
Stop it.
Si el Sr. Lewis uso todas esas sustancias con Pryor, que se mencionan... es legitima su victoria???
I am a bodybuilder and i have taken many supplements.I am also a expert on stimulants and other performance enhancing drugs.The other bottle given to Aaron Pryor didn't have enough time to get into his bloodsteam to give him any advantage in this fight if it really was something that was suppose to help him.I find it hilarious for anyone with any brain cells to think that a sip of a bottle and 5 seconds later you have the strenght and stamina of a lion.Shit please tell me where i can get that.
So a guy who was dropped twice by Cervantes, once by Johnson, once by Kameda, was rocked by Montilla and Gataan Hart, of all people stood up to the punches of a true one punch guy? That punch in the 13th finishes anybody. A guy, Alexis, that actually dropped middleweights while training for this fight. And there are still idiots that think this was on the up and up? And oh, by the way, according to Ring magazine, pryor REFUSED the post fight urine test. And you think this lying cheat DESERVES to be remembered as a great? Pathetic.
Muy fijo. No cabezeabs alexis, y estaba con menos fuerza pq subió de peso
In case you guys didn't know, Pryor was a cocaine user at this time and around 7:23 his ringman asks for the "other bottle" that "he mixed", then it appears that he puts something up to Pryor's nose as well. Pryor was coked out when he knocked out Arguello lol
The thig Pryor was smelling was ammonia capsules or smelting salts, the bottle contained antihistamine capsules mix with water to open up the longs in the later rounds
MJKDTJ cocaine acts as an antihistamine :P
I'm sure arguell was dopes up too ...everyone was back in 80s...he beat him again too
Thisisbeptv Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Arguello was doped that night, but there is unquestionable evidence, caught on camera, that Pryor drank some special Kool-Aid that gave him extraordinary energy when both boxers, as seen on the video, were gassed out. It was juts a matter of time and sooner or later one of them was going to quit, but not in the way everyone anticipated. Nonetheless a classic yet controversial match in boxing history. RIP Arguello.
ALEXIS ARGUELLO Y PAMBELE EN OTRA CONDICION LE GANAN LEJOS A PRYOR.....AMBOS BOXEADORES LIMPIOS, TECNICA, PEGADA.
all i have to say is what a fight, between two hall of famers.
14TH ROUND dude took all he could handle. previous round he only hit aaron clean with the one big shot, dude was getting HIS head snapped all night from aaron......legitimate certified asss whoopin'
Take up tennis. You clearly know nothing about boxing.