Some of these are genuinely insane, but some are also based on the size and style of the dojo. My TKD studio is pretty big, and the majority of our students are green belts or below and younger than 12. Our Grandmaster is trying to run this business pretty much solo, and thus has to be the one handling communications, contracts, finances, ets. Therefore: He has a few employees who can teach the tiny-person classes, and he only has to get hands-on with sparring and the higher-rank classes. He pre-tests us in the classes leading up to the testing, so the "test" is really more of a graduation ceremony, and thus can go pretty quick. No one is allowed to test unless he's confident they can pass. (How long it takes exactly is obviously based on how many people are there, but it's generally in the half-hour to an hour range.) Our studio is much more focused on kata (the last thing you want is a bunch of 8-year-olds getting injured because they're sparring every day and don't know how to control themselves), which means we spar less frequently and do, at least in kata, focus a bit more on "looking strong." Then in sparring, it's just about hitting the other guy and if it works it works.
My dojo looks like a mcdojo, and I was very cautious about it at first, but the actual function of it is a normal dojo. I joined because my friend was in it and I was looking to join a dojo, and I made sure the teaching was fine before I joined. It’s only the aesthetics that seem mcdojoish
at "the master won't fight with you because he doesn't want to hurt you" I genuinely had a big laugh because in my dojo masters(there are more than one) attack you point blank and there is nothing you can do except: 1 dodge if you're really good 2 parry if you're really good 3 get beaten up Karate is really fun I have to say expecially when you know really well the tatami.
@ImRusting my masters aren't so rough and they don't want to hurt me(I'm the only young boy because my dojo has a schedule where we do different things in different hours and I do traditional karate) but having a big ol' man suddenly throwing techniques surprisingly fast at you even for his age is really scary.
I think the term "McDojo" has gotten off track . What is being described is just a sham school of which there are many . But originally McDojo was meant to mirror McDonalds in that it's a franchise school either state or nation wide . The curriculum is standardized and there is a set business plan . If you get a belt at one location it's recognized at any other franchise location . I know because I trained and taught at what was literally the first martial arts franchises in the U.S. From a business standpoint it makes a ton of sense if just making a living is the goal . But in general it's just a belt promoting machine , quality material isn't a priority . BUT that doesn't mean the same businesss model couldn't be used and also teach quality martial arts .
I’m taekwondo we have a move for if someone is thrusting a stick at you. Sideways. Perhaps the most ineffective way to wield a stick. Whenever my instructor teaches that move to people just moving into the pattern that it’s in, she always says that it would absolutely never be used. General Choi (the guy who made taekwondo) was a bit of a nut job I have to say
I find it hilarious how many dojo only drill against overhead swings of 2 or 3 foot long weapons, when the natural human urge is to use said weapon like a baseball bat, with 2-handed horizontal swings, instead of like someone trying to split a stump..
My instructor will show us the moves and correct our form if necessary. Then we pair up and practice, switching between attacker and defender. Doesn't matter what belt your partner has, we all have to practice both parts.
@idris-yq6gs no bc 2 months is like really condensed learning, it's better to build skills over time and have a good foundational base of techniques/kata
Depends on the country. In Romania you don't address a teacher using his name, as if you were buddies, only Americans do this. It's Mister (name) or, in a martial art school, sensei (name).
depends on the dojo. not all American dojos are the same. i never once called them by first name but then again i was born in the early 90s and I was raised to be respectful.
Honestly, I'd be kinda cool with camouflage or other patterned belts, as long as it was just a stylistic choice for the belt itself. I mean, colored belts for ranks is a relatively recent adaptation of the sport, dating only back to the 1930s (before that it was just white and black), so it's not like it's disrespectful or anything.
I recently left a Dojo after 10 years due to the lack of understanding around kata’s and applications of techniques,you would see people at an advanced grade doing moves without any real understanding about what they were being asked to do purely just to pass a grade.
Sorry, Nat, the background music was too loud. I couldn't understand parts of your conversation and had a hard time understanding you guys the remaining time. I don't want to need an excessive amount of concentration to only listen to a conversation 😬
I started Taekwondo at 7 yrs old and 5 yrs later i am 12 and have my black belt test my coach made me fill up an application written in Korean and English
7:45 I don't think that's a sign of a mcdojo at all. your sensei probably just had the luck/situational awareness to never have to throw hands in a no rules altercation. it's actually more concerning if they claim to have a 100-0 record in the streets.
Nat your the reason I’m making my way up to a black belt I train with a dojo(Not a MCdojo)and I take notes from your videos. Right now I'm a blue belt.
Osu! POWER BABY! Just kidding, I don't use that saying where I train to each their own, my fellow dojo mates use Osu but the instructors don't hold it against me for not saying it. My previous instructor didn't like the term Osu as he viewed it as rude.
Yeah osu is a touchy subject it seems. My dojo uses it but has also stated they're not bothered whether i do or not. From my research it seems it's mostly not necessary or even frowned upon so I don't say it myself.
@@lieutenantlunar7234 depends on if you're in an okinawan or Japanese dojo. Okinawans don't like the term as it's quite brash (and it also apparently has some kind of link to the Japanese occupation of ryukyu) meanwhile it's very common in Japanese dojos
The brown belts are where it gets serious, and you really step up. The next few years will be great fun, as (hopefully) it gets more intense. 4th Kyu is purple where I trained, mind you, with three brown belts after that. Not an issue, as I have seen Wado dojos tweak the order. It doesn't really matter so long as you're training hard and keep learning.
I love the whole "dragon" thing, because I end up noticing who else watches these kinds of videos as they always react the same way to hearing what we call our headmaster: "Master Dragon" 😂 (His name is Yongjae, Yong means Dragon in Korean)
When I got my 'red belt' in TKD I discovered the 5th degree instructor had his wife put a white belt in the washer with some red dye. Being so dilute it came out as a pink belt. (this was in the 70s). Sheesh. I think it was kind of a McDojo.
@@arvedpittner9782 Yeah, but the red dye cost as much as a red belt at a MA store I bet. After all, what does a TKD instructor back then have but a closet full of colored belts.
At least you had a belt. Just heard that back in the 70s belts were not easily available in Finland so one of our senpai had his mother make a belt from bed sheets.
Karate is big enough to have multiple international federations with their own standards as to when you're allowed to partake in gradings and what skills should be tested. While you can question the skills that are being tested (this does in fact happen and is the reason why the standard can change), the minimum time periods you have to wait tend to stay consistent.
In my dojo the professor is strict and we do a belt test once/twice a year and he puts black belts to spar with white so we can learn faster so I do not think im a mcdojo and last week we won the trophy of the country where all the dojos in the country compet. Im happy you started posting more long form
Bunkai is subjective, and not meant to be realistic. It's supposed to make you think about how each technique works, what you're defending against, and so on. Ideally, you should be able to do a full kata with fellow students attacking you as instructed. That's hard to do, but valuable training.
Gonna disagree with the idea that issuing black belts in 2-4 years is a mcdojo flag. That's a pretty standard timeframe for a 1st dan, which as John said in the video is only a beginner rank that marks the start of a lifelong journey. It shouldn't take 8 years of training for your 1st degree, it's supposed to be the parallel of a BJJ blue belt.
Unless the student is a prodigy, a black belt in another style, or trains hard five days a week, I would never grade them that fast. In the Wado-ryu syllabus that I followed, it means learning ten kata, demonstrating bunkai, learning the Japanese, learning the pairs work (there's a lot), and most important, doing all of that up to a certain standard, especially in kumité. Even four years is pushing credulity. I'd guess six years as a hard minimum for an adult, 8-10 for kids. I have the utmost respect for BJJ, so you might be right there.
@@Cailus3542nah, 6 years for a black belt is actually quite long. You might see it in kyokushin but not in WKF karate, normally you make shodan in 3-4 years. Our dojo has 3 as a hard limit iirc
@@Cailus3542 I'm speaking from a WT tkd standpoint, which I'm assuming to be pretty much parallel to WKF shotokan karate. Kukkiwon (the korean board in charge of regulating/administering black belts) only has one hard requirement for 1st dan, and that's 8 poomsae (forms). Any board breaking, fitness tests, or sparring rounds is entirely up to the instructor. That being said, requiring anything beyond 3-4y for a dedicated practitioner is ridiculous and artificial. In south korea, kids and teens who practice seriously (5d a week) can acquire 1st dan in as little as a year. That's standard practice in the literal home country of the art, in perfect compliance with the official governing board. You gonna call that a mcdojo?
@@hellbuckI’m on the same page. It vastly depends on the style and purpose of the belt. TKD tends to use it as a motivation to see short term goals and achieve them toward long term goals. Most schools award belts anywhere between 2-4 months and a junior blackbelt (bodan) for about a year. This means a student can get their blackbelt in as little as two years if they stay dedicated. That being said, most Koreans don’t see a black belt as that big a deal because of how quickly one can obtain one. Legit schools will tell you that while it is an accomplishment, it means you’ve only basically become proficient in your basic techniques. Or as my master once said “congratulations, you started out crawling and now know how to walk. Don’t try running just yet, you’ll hurt yourself.” Meanwhile, the average time for a blackbelt in hapkido is 6-8 years. Same country, vastly different skill set. Vastly different class structure. So one isn’t better. One isn’t worse. It’s just what’s the motivation and design behind receiving the belts. Think most schools will fully admit that blackbelt is where the true learning begins.
If your Dojo does belt tests as just a formality and you already know you’re getting promoted because you paid your tuition in full before the test…. It may be a McDojo
Also if the sensei is literally built like Chris Farley or Jack Black, and instead of teaching the techniques himself, he has a much more physically fit assistant that he demonstrates a half-assed application of a technique on, then has that guy (who is actually a skilled martial artist) demonstrate it solo to the class, then going through reps and drills with the class, while Meatball-sama walks around the dojo floor, thumbs tucked into his belt, pretending to look for poor form in the students.
Unfortunately, me training tang soo do they do the 2-meter punch dangling out and you have to block and respond, so I have to pick out what's good from the martial art and what's useless, though we have a few instructors who are police officers that teach the good of the art like one of my older instructors who survived a knife attack and showed me the technique he used though he was injured I saw the stab mark in his leg and that looked really painful thankfully, he is alive to continue training, though I recently started training muay Thai. It pisses me off that i chose this martial art as a little kid though I can't blame myself, karate kicks look cool. Though I'm going to start training in more hard martial arts to make up for my previous mistake.
My family friend had a sensei when he took martial arts that fought him. This was mainly bc the instructor told him to warm up a kid and instead he full on took the kid to the ground thinking that’s what it meant. The instructor decided to give my family friend a taste of his own medicine (almost. He didn’t get terribly hurt or anything but he did go down hard) 😅
Haha! Funny. Not really the same, but Guam requires martial arts experts to register if they are experts in karate, judo, or similar physical arts, but that's for tax purposes 🤣
Honestly laughed at this, first thing, my Grandmaster, not going to reveal the name for their safety but we can call them their name, is over 40 years old, and used to be a football player, so he is rather overweight, sorry to be mean Sensei, but uh, it's true, and he has had his knee replaced, so he can't do much, so it is hard for him to warm up with us, and it is hard for him to do things hands on, such as sparring with us. But for everyone else with a type of situation as I am, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is a Mc Dojo, I am still learning a lot and the other teachers that are younger do hands on stuff with us all of the time. Also, Nat, great video, keep going.
My master is called master lol I don’t know his first name just his last name. It’s a respect thing. Doesn’t make my dojang fake lol 😂😂 I enjoyed watching this video 😂😂
Given that your score was 2 red flags out of 40, with two being only partial red flags (I.E: minors with black belt, oss, etc) , its safe to say your proud establishment is more than likely legitimate.
I train With Francisco Filho K1 Legend, World Champion of Karate Kyokushin and Kickboxing Champion at least I know my dojo it's the real deal because my Shihan are Legendary.
Hello, I just bought your flexibility course on the 24th. I was dissatisfied with it so I sent in a refund request multiple times through email and your website. I haven’t received any response for days. Please check up on this. Thank you and have a good day!
That's how long it usually takes at our dojo, unless they're above the age of 14. But for us, being in a smaller location, everyone needs to be able to teach everything to get the black belt. So it can still be there in the coming years.
10:55 well, i think it depends on the amount of dans or titles you can receive after black belt in your dojo. if you have like 3 titles after black belt black belt would be worth more because there isnt much after it, but if you have 10 dans, black belt would be worth less because there is more to earn after black belt.
Eh? In Wado-ryu, the last grading is for 3rd Dan, covering everything. Anything after that is honorary, awarded by a person's peers in recognition of a person's ongoing dedication to karate. This can involve regular attendance at tournaments as a judge or referee, their dojo being successful at tournaments, and so on. It takes decades. The man who first started training me as a 6 year old, graded me to 1st Dan at 16, then 2nd Dan at 21, was just awarded his 6th Dan. I am now 32. That's the timescale.
depends on the art and the teacher\school, for say i learn tkd and the teacher says it takes for most around 7-10 years depending if you actually tried and exceeded in the tests...
Some of these are genuinely insane, but some are also based on the size and style of the dojo.
My TKD studio is pretty big, and the majority of our students are green belts or below and younger than 12. Our Grandmaster is trying to run this business pretty much solo, and thus has to be the one handling communications, contracts, finances, ets. Therefore:
He has a few employees who can teach the tiny-person classes, and he only has to get hands-on with sparring and the higher-rank classes.
He pre-tests us in the classes leading up to the testing, so the "test" is really more of a graduation ceremony, and thus can go pretty quick. No one is allowed to test unless he's confident they can pass. (How long it takes exactly is obviously based on how many people are there, but it's generally in the half-hour to an hour range.)
Our studio is much more focused on kata (the last thing you want is a bunch of 8-year-olds getting injured because they're sparring every day and don't know how to control themselves), which means we spar less frequently and do, at least in kata, focus a bit more on "looking strong." Then in sparring, it's just about hitting the other guy and if it works it works.
My dojo isn't a McDojo. Its a Dojo-King. I have it my way!
My dojo looks like a mcdojo, and I was very cautious about it at first, but the actual function of it is a normal dojo. I joined because my friend was in it and I was looking to join a dojo, and I made sure the teaching was fine before I joined. It’s only the aesthetics that seem mcdojoish
Nothing wrong with a proud club showing their achievements and history.
at "the master won't fight with you because he doesn't want to hurt you" I genuinely had a big laugh because in my dojo masters(there are more than one) attack you point blank and there is nothing you can do except: 1 dodge if you're really good 2 parry if you're really good 3 get beaten up
Karate is really fun I have to say expecially when you know really well the tatami.
i remember when i was 12 and just got my black belt I fought the master and he beat my ass so hard i couldn't go the next day because i was so sore XD
@ImRusting my masters aren't so rough and they don't want to hurt me(I'm the only young boy because my dojo has a schedule where we do different things in different hours and I do traditional karate) but having a big ol' man suddenly throwing techniques surprisingly fast at you even for his age is really scary.
I think the term "McDojo" has gotten off track . What is being described is just a sham school of which there are many . But originally McDojo was meant to mirror McDonalds in that it's a franchise school either state or nation wide . The curriculum is standardized and there is a set business plan . If you get a belt at one location it's recognized at any other franchise location . I know because I trained and taught at what was literally the first martial arts franchises in the U.S. From a business standpoint it makes a ton of sense if just making a living is the goal . But in general it's just a belt promoting machine , quality material isn't a priority . BUT that doesn't mean the same businesss model couldn't be used and also teach quality martial arts .
9:20 If we did karate like that I think my sensei will have an heart attack😅🤣
sameee im only orange belt and i could probably do a better job than that😅
I’m taekwondo we have a move for if someone is thrusting a stick at you. Sideways. Perhaps the most ineffective way to wield a stick. Whenever my instructor teaches that move to people just moving into the pattern that it’s in, she always says that it would absolutely never be used.
General Choi (the guy who made taekwondo) was a bit of a nut job I have to say
I find it hilarious how many dojo only drill against overhead swings of 2 or 3 foot long weapons, when the natural human urge is to use said weapon like a baseball bat, with 2-handed horizontal swings, instead of like someone trying to split a stump..
Never clicked so fast in my life
So true broo
rela
@@krafty29yeah
Me too
Fr
Nat’s hair style is cool
😎😎👍👍
Mc dojo
I laughed when I saw Ronald McDonald wearing a belt 🤣🤣🤣
😂same
My instructor will show us the moves and correct our form if necessary. Then we pair up and practice, switching between attacker and defender. Doesn't matter what belt your partner has, we all have to practice both parts.
It might not be a Mcdojo but it’s a NatDojo 😂
mc dojos are actually the best because i went and it was so good i got my black belt in like 2 months and already on 4 degree
2 months is crazy- thats why they're bad
@minchocolee lol
@idris-yq6gs no bc 2 months is like really condensed learning, it's better to build skills over time and have a good foundational base of techniques/kata
@minchocolee I'm bad at showing that it was a joke it was
@idris-yq6gs ohh ok lol😭
Depends on the country. In Romania you don't address a teacher using his name, as if you were buddies, only Americans do this. It's Mister (name) or, in a martial art school, sensei (name).
depends on the dojo. not all American dojos are the same. i never once called them by first name but then again i was born in the early 90s and I was raised to be respectful.
Fun video, I liked it a lot. Just a minor "complaint", I feel like the music was a little bit loud in comparison to your words.
Yeah I know, it won’t happen again💪
Honestly, I'd be kinda cool with camouflage or other patterned belts, as long as it was just a stylistic choice for the belt itself. I mean, colored belts for ranks is a relatively recent adaptation of the sport, dating only back to the 1930s (before that it was just white and black), so it's not like it's disrespectful or anything.
Loving these long form videos nat
Keep them coming
Will do for sure💪
I recently left a Dojo after 10 years due to the lack of understanding around kata’s and applications of techniques,you would see people at an advanced grade doing moves without any real understanding about what they were being asked to do purely just to pass a grade.
It doesn't matter where you teach them what matters is how you teach your students
Yes I agree👍👊
Love to see the bond between a student and their instructor. Hope to see more videos like this.❤
Will do more👍
Even if your dojo was a McDojo, you can easily make it into a Dojo depending on how you teach your students :D
Sorry, Nat, the background music was too loud. I couldn't understand parts of your conversation and had a hard time understanding you guys the remaining time. I don't want to need an excessive amount of concentration to only listen to a conversation 😬
idgaf.
I agree but it was a great video nonetheless ❤
@@creepmallowthegreat5176 I was so eager to watch it, when I saw the thumbnail. 😭 💔
❤ubtitles are there for reason
Sorry about that, I will get this fixed for the next video💪
I started Taekwondo at 7 yrs old and 5 yrs later i am 12 and have my black belt test my coach made me fill up an application written in Korean and English
I start at 5 and still no black belt I am 13
that's cool good luck
7:45 I don't think that's a sign of a mcdojo at all. your sensei probably just had the luck/situational awareness to never have to throw hands in a no rules altercation. it's actually more concerning if they claim to have a 100-0 record in the streets.
but if the sensei has never bean in a fight then how is he supposed to know that their style actually works
@CrashoutMMA That's what kumité is for.
Cool video lads, music bit too loud for me
Yeah it could be a little quieter
Yeah, me too.
me too
Yeah 😊
You're uploading more long videos 🤝
W
I’m trying to💪
Nat your the reason I’m making my way up to a black belt I train with a dojo(Not a MCdojo)and I take notes from your videos. Right now I'm a blue belt.
Nice bro👊good luck on your journey to black belt
@@nathearn Ty
The music is a little too loud for non english speakers to understand everything properly, just letting you know - great video otherwise!
Ya i need subtitles.
100% agreed
Same
Will make this better in the next video👍
About "Oss" / "Osu": in okinawan styles that does not exist, because it is seen as rude.
One girl said that she got black belt in 1 year 😂😂😂
It's plausible if she trains every single day, or if she does private lessons. Assuming this is karate or tkd.
😂😂now that is definitely a McDojo
@@nathearn she said what's mc dojo? 😆😆
Another amazing video by the legendary Nat!
Thank you💪💪
Osu! POWER BABY! Just kidding, I don't use that saying where I train to each their own, my fellow dojo mates use Osu but the instructors don't hold it against me for not saying it. My previous instructor didn't like the term Osu as he viewed it as rude.
Yeah osu is a touchy subject it seems. My dojo uses it but has also stated they're not bothered whether i do or not. From my research it seems it's mostly not necessary or even frowned upon so I don't say it myself.
@@lieutenantlunar7234 depends on if you're in an okinawan or Japanese dojo. Okinawans don't like the term as it's quite brash (and it also apparently has some kind of link to the Japanese occupation of ryukyu) meanwhile it's very common in Japanese dojos
for no. 13
my coach goes by
SENSEI david
so it's kinda both
and for no. 26 I've been doing karate for like 5 years and im brown
(4th wado ryu kyu)
Well yeah if they prefer Sensai and than their name that’s fine
The brown belts are where it gets serious, and you really step up. The next few years will be great fun, as (hopefully) it gets more intense. 4th Kyu is purple where I trained, mind you, with three brown belts after that. Not an issue, as I have seen Wado dojos tweak the order. It doesn't really matter so long as you're training hard and keep learning.
Loving the long form videos man
Thank you bro I’m glad to hear that
I always enjoy watching your vids coz I know it’s gonna help me improve❤️
Nice bro💪glad you enjoy the vids
Thanks Nat for bring on time
👋😇😇🦌🎄🎅🎁
“$1000 for a 10th dan black belt in 1 week” 😭
😂😂
My personal compliments to you Nat and your coach, always the best, keep going ❤🥋
Thank you💪will do
I just bought the program. Can't wait to start !
Louder background music than the voice.
Yeah they need to tweak that. Made it more difficult with the coach's accent.
Will be sorted for the next vid, apologies
Your instructor looks like a gigachad, he actually looks like gigachad.
He has a channel, huge fan, and yes he is a gigachad, you should see his videos
fr
Elite dragon slayer original chicken tender dojo lol
😂😂😂
I love the whole "dragon" thing, because I end up noticing who else watches these kinds of videos as they always react the same way to hearing what we call our headmaster: "Master Dragon" 😂
(His name is Yongjae, Yong means Dragon in Korean)
Was waiting for another amazing vid from you Nat!
Thank you, hope you enjoyed it💪
Stephen wonderboy thompson actually has a camo belt in his dojo but only for kidz
When I got my 'red belt' in TKD I discovered the 5th degree instructor had his wife put a white belt in the washer with some red dye. Being so dilute it came out as a pink belt. (this was in the 70s). Sheesh. I think it was kind of a McDojo.
I mean its fine to try that but if they fail that badly they should then ofc get a real red belt
@@arvedpittner9782 Yeah, but the red dye cost as much as a red belt at a MA store I bet. After all, what does a TKD instructor back then have but a closet full of colored belts.
At least you had a belt. Just heard that back in the 70s belts were not easily available in Finland so one of our senpai had his mother make a belt from bed sheets.
@@icemanespoo2977 You had Bed Sheets? Man!
I mean it was the dojo who was part in training you all this way. Considering your high level of karate i can assure you it isn’t a mcdojo.
Thank you man🤝
@ 🤝
Mate, I love you and all. But next vid like this consider lowering the background music. Wether you have an editor on not please try to do this.
I will do, sorry about that, it will be fixed for the next one👍
Goodnight , Nat 👋😊😊😇😇
I'm going to continue watching my Premier League 🍿🍿😎😎
What match?
Oh damn goodnight dude
@@Xenex_editz football match
Great video, only thing I’d say is next time lower the background music! At times it overshadowed and overwhelmed both of your voices
Yeah I will get this sorted for the next video, thanks for letting me know👍
In my opinion you need a combination of time based and skill based progression
Karate is big enough to have multiple international federations with their own standards as to when you're allowed to partake in gradings and what skills should be tested.
While you can question the skills that are being tested (this does in fact happen and is the reason why the standard can change), the minimum time periods you have to wait tend to stay consistent.
In my dojo the professor is strict and we do a belt test once/twice a year and he puts black belts to spar with white so we can learn faster so I do not think im a mcdojo and last week we won the trophy of the country where all the dojos in the country compet.
Im happy you started posting more long form
7:28 coach flexin out to the camera
But in heian sandan there is a cresent kick to disarm a knife for the bunkai 2:09
Bunkai is subjective, and not meant to be realistic. It's supposed to make you think about how each technique works, what you're defending against, and so on. Ideally, you should be able to do a full kata with fellow students attacking you as instructed. That's hard to do, but valuable training.
@@Cailus3542 senseis will teach it but mine only teaches it for the kata and if someone has a knife he said just run bro
My school doesn’t allow you to take test advancements if you’re not ready. So if one fails it’s the individuals fault 😅
9:20 is the best thing ive seen all day, freaking awesome
i looked at the title and i never clicked anywhere near as fast as i just did
😎😎glad to hear that
@@nathearn no way you actually replied :0
2:23 check out since Seth’s video on seeing if you can kick a knife out of someone’s hand
Gonna disagree with the idea that issuing black belts in 2-4 years is a mcdojo flag. That's a pretty standard timeframe for a 1st dan, which as John said in the video is only a beginner rank that marks the start of a lifelong journey. It shouldn't take 8 years of training for your 1st degree, it's supposed to be the parallel of a BJJ blue belt.
Unless the student is a prodigy, a black belt in another style, or trains hard five days a week, I would never grade them that fast. In the Wado-ryu syllabus that I followed, it means learning ten kata, demonstrating bunkai, learning the Japanese, learning the pairs work (there's a lot), and most important, doing all of that up to a certain standard, especially in kumité. Even four years is pushing credulity. I'd guess six years as a hard minimum for an adult, 8-10 for kids.
I have the utmost respect for BJJ, so you might be right there.
@@Cailus3542nah, 6 years for a black belt is actually quite long. You might see it in kyokushin but not in WKF karate, normally you make shodan in 3-4 years. Our dojo has 3 as a hard limit iirc
@@Cailus3542 I'm speaking from a WT tkd standpoint, which I'm assuming to be pretty much parallel to WKF shotokan karate. Kukkiwon (the korean board in charge of regulating/administering black belts) only has one hard requirement for 1st dan, and that's 8 poomsae (forms). Any board breaking, fitness tests, or sparring rounds is entirely up to the instructor. That being said, requiring anything beyond 3-4y for a dedicated practitioner is ridiculous and artificial. In south korea, kids and teens who practice seriously (5d a week) can acquire 1st dan in as little as a year. That's standard practice in the literal home country of the art, in perfect compliance with the official governing board. You gonna call that a mcdojo?
@@hellbuckI’m on the same page. It vastly depends on the style and purpose of the belt. TKD tends to use it as a motivation to see short term goals and achieve them toward long term goals. Most schools award belts anywhere between 2-4 months and a junior blackbelt (bodan) for about a year. This means a student can get their blackbelt in as little as two years if they stay dedicated.
That being said, most Koreans don’t see a black belt as that big a deal because of how quickly one can obtain one. Legit schools will tell you that while it is an accomplishment, it means you’ve only basically become proficient in your basic techniques. Or as my master once said “congratulations, you started out crawling and now know how to walk. Don’t try running just yet, you’ll hurt yourself.”
Meanwhile, the average time for a blackbelt in hapkido is 6-8 years. Same country, vastly different skill set. Vastly different class structure. So one isn’t better. One isn’t worse. It’s just what’s the motivation and design behind receiving the belts.
Think most schools will fully admit that blackbelt is where the true learning begins.
If your Dojo does belt tests as just a formality and you already know you’re getting promoted because you paid your tuition in full before the test…. It may be a McDojo
Also if the sensei is literally built like Chris Farley or Jack Black, and instead of teaching the techniques himself, he has a much more physically fit assistant that he demonstrates a half-assed application of a technique on, then has that guy (who is actually a skilled martial artist) demonstrate it solo to the class, then going through reps and drills with the class, while Meatball-sama walks around the dojo floor, thumbs tucked into his belt, pretending to look for poor form in the students.
Nah. That's definitely a McDojo, and also fraud.
Yeah that’s facts🤝
"You were chewing gum."
YOU HAVE A DOJO? man i thought u just used a spare room to do your shorts lol, good for you man, wishing you great success for your dojo
No the guy on the left has a dojo he’s just a student there
Thanks mate, I train at a dojo, it’s not mine🤝
I was like OOOOHHH A NEW VIDEO!!!!
amen
@fatherelliot ??
👊👊
6:20 thats laugh is ridiculously devious
W vid bro your just a giga Chad and so inspiring I’m a Kyokushin karate player and I see you inspiring
Appreciate that bro hahah good luck with all the kyokushin training💪
yoooo another long form video
Indeed🤝
It is possible to block it with your arm IF its nearly straight so it will slide off but never to „block“ it just to kind of deflect
another banger video
Appreciate it👊
7:46 that was a very suspicious edit 🧐
Unfortunately, me training tang soo do they do the 2-meter punch dangling out and you have to block and respond, so I have to pick out what's good from the martial art and what's useless, though we have a few instructors who are police officers that teach the good of the art like one of my older instructors who survived a knife attack and showed me the technique he used though he was injured I saw the stab mark in his leg and that looked really painful thankfully, he is alive to continue training, though I recently started training muay Thai. It pisses me off that i chose this martial art as a little kid though I can't blame myself, karate kicks look cool. Though I'm going to start training in more hard martial arts to make up for my previous mistake.
My family friend had a sensei when he took martial arts that fought him. This was mainly bc the instructor told him to warm up a kid and instead he full on took the kid to the ground thinking that’s what it meant. The instructor decided to give my family friend a taste of his own medicine (almost. He didn’t get terribly hurt or anything but he did go down hard) 😅
Haha! Funny. Not really the same, but Guam requires martial arts experts to register if they are experts in karate, judo, or similar physical arts, but that's for tax purposes 🤣
Yeah I go to an ATA martial arts school but even after this I don’t want to quit b because I’ve spent so much money on it
Honestly laughed at this, first thing, my Grandmaster, not going to reveal the name for their safety but we can call them their name, is over 40 years old, and used to be a football player, so he is rather overweight, sorry to be mean Sensei, but uh, it's true, and he has had his knee replaced, so he can't do much, so it is hard for him to warm up with us, and it is hard for him to do things hands on, such as sparring with us. But for everyone else with a type of situation as I am, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is a Mc Dojo, I am still learning a lot and the other teachers that are younger do hands on stuff with us all of the time. Also, Nat, great video, keep going.
Nah no way, I am calling it
😎😎
Nat probably earned some push-ups for some of his comments about his Sensei, lol.
Ngl he kinda looks like Jake Paul if he went the right way
Nat where did you buy that hoodie I love it
My master is called master lol I don’t know his first name just his last name. It’s a respect thing. Doesn’t make my dojang fake lol 😂😂 I enjoyed watching this video 😂😂
Given that your score was 2 red flags out of 40, with two being only partial red flags (I.E: minors with black belt, oss, etc) , its safe to say your proud establishment is more than likely legitimate.
Hahah thank you💪
Did you got checked by master Ken? Without it you are not legit.
Facts I need to do that
@@nathearn Oh man that will be epic.
38 seconds in after vido have been posted and i am already here!
Nice🤝🤝
1:47 they might just be from Guam
@nathearn I want to buy your flexibility program can you tell me can i get the splits with it. thanks
Watched all videos on mcdojos still genuinely unsure if mine is a mcdojo
In that case it probably isn't
In that case it probably is
duality of man
7:46 broke the rule
I train With Francisco Filho K1 Legend, World Champion of Karate Kyokushin and Kickboxing Champion at least I know my dojo it's the real deal because my Shihan are Legendary.
so?
Nice👍
Cool video, but the musik when you two talk is a little bit too loud in my opinion
Yeah I will fix this for the next one👍
Hello, I just bought your flexibility course on the 24th. I was dissatisfied with it so I sent in a refund request multiple times through email and your website. I haven’t received any response for days. Please check up on this.
Thank you and have a good day!
The video at 9:17 had me rolling.
1. Test = is there a drive thru window or delivery belt service?
10:38 I got my black belt at the age of 13 but I trained for 7 years
same
That's how long it usually takes at our dojo, unless they're above the age of 14. But for us, being in a smaller location, everyone needs to be able to teach everything to get the black belt. So it can still be there in the coming years.
10:55 well, i think it depends on the amount of dans or titles you can receive after black belt in your dojo. if you have like 3 titles after black belt black belt would be worth more because there isnt much after it, but if you have 10 dans, black belt would be worth less because there is more to earn after black belt.
Eh? In Wado-ryu, the last grading is for 3rd Dan, covering everything. Anything after that is honorary, awarded by a person's peers in recognition of a person's ongoing dedication to karate. This can involve regular attendance at tournaments as a judge or referee, their dojo being successful at tournaments, and so on. It takes decades. The man who first started training me as a 6 year old, graded me to 1st Dan at 16, then 2nd Dan at 21, was just awarded his 6th Dan. I am now 32. That's the timescale.
Do a video in which u train boxing and have a spar like u did with muay thai
There's one kidding my class who is 7th Dan at 11
Wait what
Hellll naw bruh
my group puts age limits on belts. the youngest black belts are 16 or so
What is the best street fight martial art ?
Sprinting
*ar-15*
@@supertrodoon that is a true martial artist there ladies and gentle men
@@TheVenomGamer1733 it depends on the practitioner not the art form
Wrestling, Thai boxing, mma.
This man had to look twice
Can you do a video about martial arts in anime?
You Said no to a Black belt in 2-4 years. But isnt 3-5 years the most normal? At least that is what I Can find through google.
7-10
Depends on the art
depends on the art and the teacher\school, for say i learn tkd and the teacher says it takes for most around 7-10 years depending if you actually tried and exceeded in the tests...
AI generated thumbnail, oh no.. (jk good video)
Thanks bro, is it that bad if I use ai in the thumbnail? I didn’t really see a problem with it
Bro you are really handsome can you make video on grooming
Glad I’m not the only one who says this! He’s really handsome isn’t he! Skin so smooth looks like he’s got makeup on! ❤
@@user-DANWALKER1066 really!!