Ebay 19t vs 17t BMW N54 Turbo Swap! (e92 335xi)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- 2008 BM2002008 BMW 335xi e92 turbo install. these were purchased through ebay. not the VIV version, but they are the 4th version of the 19t
EBAY 19T Turbos: ebay.us/QEJyae
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water pump 10nm + 90
control arms 74ft lbs +90
tie rod end 55ft lbs
sway bar to subframe 16ft lbs
sway bar end links 44ft lbs
rack & pinion 41ft lbs +90
motor mount bracket to engine 48ft lbs
motor mount to subframe 18 ft lbs
subframe 80ft lbs
Turbo manifold nuts 15 ft lbs
manifold studs 7.4ft lbs
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water pump 10nm + 90
control arms 74ft lbs +90
tie rod end 55ft lbs
sway bar to subframe 16ft lbs
sway bar end links 44ft lbs
rack & pinion 41ft lbs +90
motor mount bracket to engine 48ft lbs
motor mount to subframe 18 ft lbs
subframe 80ft lbs
Turbo manifold nuts 15 ft lbs
manifold studs 7.4ft lbs
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Camera Used :amzn.to/3KO42ss
Amazon Store : www.amazon.com/shop/jku392adv...
Wolfbox18%off : wolfbox.com/?ref=6qe918okW 335xi e92 turbo install. these were purchased through ebay. not the VIV version, but they are the 4th version of the 19t
ebay.us/fBzU7k
water pump 10nm + 90
control arms 74ft lbs +90
tie rod end 55ft lbs
sway bar to subframe 16ft lbs
sway bar end links 44ft lbs
rack & pinion 41ft lbs +90
motor mount bracket to engine 48ft lbs
motor mount to subframe 18 ft lbs
subframe 80ft lbs
Turbo manifold nuts 15 ft lbs
manifold studs 7.4ft lbs
just one:
www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-...
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Camera Used :amzn.to/3KO42ss
Amazon Store : www.amazon.com/shop/jku392adv...
Wolfbox18%off : wolfbox.com/?ref=6qe918ok 
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Install video
ruclips.net/video/xEAynQZCPac/видео.html
Very comprehensive and the torque specs is a vitally nice and thoughtful touch
Thank you! I figured it would be beneficial to my viewers 🙏🤙
Also very thorough walk through. Much appreciated!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed 🤙🤙💯
What Hp are you running through the 17T turbos??
Well I can't tell you how glad I am to find you working on an XI instead of just a rear wheel drive!! That what my car is and there's almost nothing on the net on the X drive N54's! As well you obviously have a lot more experience with up graded turbos than I so I hope to learn a few things from your well done videos. I have only had my 17T's (Ebay) installed for about 9 months on my 2008 335XI Sedan. Right out the gate I have had troubles with boost leaks and squealing or whining or "Turkey and Duck" sounds from air leaking out of unknown places. I haven't even been able to move beyond a "Safe tune" to a full proper tune because I haven't been able to figure out what the heck is happening. I replaced almost everything on the car as soon as I bought it because I didn't want to go through what I'm going through with chasing ghosts. LOL. This is my second 335i and I got it for dirt cheap ($1500 USD) due to high mileage (180,00miles) a history of two accidents but it was professionally repaired and a blown wheel bearing, bad HPFP and then all the maintenance these babies require. Anyway I won't continue to bore you with my troubles but I must admit I am a bit happy to find you and your channel. I'm just about to install the ARM upgraded silicone hoses for the charge pipe to the intercooler and the outlet. Hopefully this may help my troubles but if not I'll move on to the next possibility. "Swap Depot" YT channel told me his "Duck sounds" on one of his new n54 cars were caused by a leaking outlet so I guess I'll look into that after installing the ARM hoses. Subbed, Bell rung!
Hey! I feel your struggle with the lack of xi information on RUclips and the internet. Everyone makes it seem like turbo installs are so easy, but most of them work on rwd cars! Even my buddies with N54 brag about how easy it all is and I'm over here struggling over a whole weekend hahaha
But yeah I would definitely recommend doing a boost leak test, there's plenty of diy options out there to plug your air intake and the. Add some compressed air into it. The words you use squealing and whining really make me hope it's nothing internal (rod bearings) or anything. I also replaced my belt and pulleys, helped quiet things down. Best of luck! Thanks for the sub!
@@jku392adventure I didn't expect you to actually see my post AND answer! THANK YOU! The date (Or now just time since commented boo) shows it was two months ago that I commented so where I'm at now is that the leaks have been hunted down and destroyed and I'm finally actually installing the set of "ARM MOTOR SPORTS" Upgraded silicone intercooler to charge pipe tubing. (That's a mouthful lol). I wrote about in the previous comment. They are a massive upgrade and I'm planning to get another custom tune on the car with the 17T turbkis and the 3.5 pressure sensor installed this time and the upgraded piping from ARM should be an insane boost blast! I'm looking to safely (Hopefully lol) run 600hp or so with all the mods I have now and the engine is running strong. I have a new to me used set of Injectors now too which have made a big improvement in the running and power. I just took a break as I do my work on the XI one step at a time. I'll go out spend an hour doing the work or even less then take a break and have a drink or watch a video etc. Then when i feel I'm all good I go back to the garage and do another round.
Hahaha I try to reply when I can able to! Haha, and yes I definitely understand needing to take breaks during large projects! Your gonna be so happy with your new turbos! Makes it so much nicer! What are you going to do for more fuel after the lpfp? Port injection or anything? In also doing tuning videos you should check out if you ever thought about diy tuning 🤙🤙
@@friguy4444what was causing the leak?
This is an awesome very detailed and helpful video a little crazy how many times I heard the words actual and actually tho
Thank you, and yeah I realized that post edit hahaha here is my updated video if you have to watch it again for referencing
ruclips.net/video/2B9JfQmZ2WY/видео.html
Really enjoying your videos especially ones around tunerpro. One question what type of or which instrument cluster are you using for gauges on the right where the old screen use to live
Thanks Man! Glad to hear! And for the tablet I'm using amzn.to/3qzoZAw
Id recommend the newer one
And for the stereo I use amzn.to/3YCDxMv and I love it!
"Welcome back to another video"? This is my first time on your channel.
Hopefully not your last time and next video you watch I hope you feel welcomed back 😅😋
Okay douche
Interested to see the difference in performance, I have the Viv 17T's, installed for a year now, still boosting 25psi for now
I will definitely keep everyone updated! The 17ts are good for power, just sucked they started smoking. One of the bearings had some play.
I'm close to finishing up my tank of 91 octane, then I'll fill up with e85 and turn up the boost! Can't wait!
Careful with these big twins - if you max them out properly they have a tendency to pop engines (bent rods, cracked ring lands, lifted heads)
@@BMW1M thank you! I appreciate the heads up. What would you say should be the max psi to safely?. And yeah Viv is just a brand that re-lables them, that's def why I saved some money getting the same turbos from a different brand 🤙🤙
@@jku392adventure That is something you need to discuss with your tuner, because it's not just a single, magic number. An experienced tuner will know how to control and ramp in boost to mitigate the most common failure modes.
Cracked ringlands and bents rods usually happen due to too much torque low down in the rev range. Even 17T's can pop a stock motor from too much torque if not tuned correctly. Lifted heads usually comes from just pushing boost too far. 17T's won't worry your head bolts, but bigger twins like the 19T's and flowmax's certainly can make enough jam for it to be an issue.
@@BMW1M thanks for the info! I'm my own tuner, so I'm definitely careful when it comes to pushing the motor. I do make sure not to target too high of boost in lower rpms. And as the driver I make sure not to floor it in lower rpms. So far these 19ts have made me quite happy!
Any thoughts on the 19t v3 idk why the v4s are running 1300+
I chose to stay away from the v3 because the v4 is supposedly upgraded and then also the fact that it unbolts from the manifold would make rebuilding easier if they went bad
can I drive with the 19t 530-550PS or is that not enough for these turbos?
You can drive your car with stock boost levels and power levels with these turbos, no issues there
What head unit do you have in this car? I'm new to the BMW stuff, how do you get your gauges to show up on the head unit screen
I actually have the link to the head unit on the video description, and I'm using MHD and a wifi obd adapter from mhd
How many miles do you have on these ebay turbos? Thinking about getting a pair.
I probably only have less than 10k miles on them, they are fairly new, but they are holding strong so far! Id recommend them 🤙🤙👌👌
Have you had any issues with the helix overdrive?
Zero issues with it. It had some chatter at first on startup for about 10 seconds, I tuned that out
@@jku392adventure did you turn on mhd cold start reducer
@@davidaames8787 I did, but I also made some changes to the actual bin file to stop the chatter. Before those changes it would chatter for about 10 seconds every startup
@@jku392adventure ok awesome, thanks for the reply
@@davidaames8787 no problem! are you planning on getting one?
24,5 PSI is this on Stock engine or ? 🤓
Haha oh yeah , stock internals 🤙🤙🤙
@@jku392adventure
Whooo, have you saved on boost pressure at the bottom to spare the engine for too much torque ? Or just full boost ?
Yeah with the 19ts being a little bigger, boost takes a little longer to kick in. I don't req full boost until like 3200 rpm in lower gears
So probably closer to 3800 rpm before full boost
What do you mean they are the ebay 19t and not Viv?
Viv is a popular brand that's sold on ebay and Amazon. But the turbos I bought are not that brand
@@jku392adventure Viv 19t v4 are suppose to have the turbo lab of america upgraded thrust bearing and seals. Im installing a set soon and will be giving updates on a regular.
@@thisguyshorty3554 oh nice! That would be cool if they do that the better seals And bearings! At least if they go bad, the v4 can unbolt from the manifold, making it easier to remove just the turbo
Who tuned the car? Looks sweet
Thank you! I tuned it myself, through years of research and testing haha I still need to adjust the tune a little since moving from 17ts to 19ts.
Have a link on the 19t turbos? Thanks
www.ebay.com/itm/304720898349?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=87djrbo9R7O&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=bpG-uLanRGy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@jku392adventure awesome !! Thanks .. currently have the 17t fairly new .. 11 blade .. pretty quiet turbos Almost no spool sound even with non-catted downpipes and 3.5 vrsf exhaust .. but I’m intrested in you comparison and see how much better these v4 - 19t Perform
@@HDGnvrsleep thanks! I'm getting some more seat time to give a good comparison between the two, I must say, they pull very hard. I'm enjoying them a lot! And they are definitely noisy when spooling. Even when I'm not in actual boost. I love that part.
@@jku392adventure boost lag difference ? So much bigger , must be more laggy?
@@HDGnvrsleep it's got a little more lag, maybe like 200rpms. Im normally at about 20-22 psi within 500 rpms with the 17t, and it's probably 700 rpms with the 19t
100% looks like waste gates not closing fullly
You mean when Im testing them to make sure they are even? They definitely close
@@jku392adventure no the old ones the 17t cause it didn't look like the seal between the exhaust or compressor side was leaking oil so. could of checked a log and watched waste gate values etc to see, also were they leaking oil from the lines or was that from valve cover. how are the 19ts holding up tho im sure at even 24psi they should be more reliable and faster than 17ts
Ahhhhh gotchaaa, yeah it's possible they weren't closing all the way, although they both had upgraded wastegates. And they were definitely leaking oil from somewhere, I was getting puffs of smoke every time I came to a red light, and when making boost. The new ones are holding up nicely, they definitely feel better at 24 psi, and the boost curve is much more even, the 17ts seemed harder to have a clean boost line. Definitely worth the upgrade 🤙 so far 🤞🤞🤞
@@jku392adventure oh yeah just realized you dont have a lowside catch can id consider investing in one, the valve cover system doesn't last long and there is a theory on vacuum assisting the oil come through your return lines on turbos they say when you dont have it these turbos blow out easy if oil accumulates in the turbo and isn't drained fast enough it can damage the seals. which makes sense considering when people dont run the flapper valve to control vacuum on valve cover it looses all vacuum resulting in smoking exhaust experienced it first hand and fixed it if it goes like that long enough it can damage turbos etc. are you running flapper valve on your current high side catch can? ooh and by the way it will keep your valves so much cleaner because the lowside catch can eliminates the passage through the valve cover to intakes so lowside goes right to can instead.
I'll have to look into that! Thank you! So much to do! 😂😂😂
What kind or size of inlets do i need for 19ts ?
For most of the aftermarket 17ts and 19t, you need 2" inlets. I'd recommend relocated inlets like I have.i think mine are vrsf
I heard there was some heat issue with relocated inlets but for the stock turbo ones, was there any issue about the 19ts too ?
@@aightmayneyup1439 no heat issues, I think the main thing is to have a good intercooler to cool the air after the hot turbos. Then your good 👌👌
Hey man I got a serious question, I have oem turbos and im FBO stage 2+ mhd, what else do I need aftermarket to run these, different return lines or different inlets? I need a very descriptive answer to everything else I'd need that won't work with what's on the car already
@@wegofast740 I believe you'll need aftermarket outlets (they will be the same for most aftermarket turbos), and also 2" inlets. You can use relocated inlets or stock location, they just need to be 2". Also it's recommend to have upgraded fuel pump. I have the bucketless. And the upgraded maf sensor if your going to want more boost. If under 20 psi your stock mad sensor will work.
So in reality to make them work and bolt up, you really only need inlets and outlets. All oil lines and everything bolt right up
What is that head unit it’s dope af ?
Hey! It's definitely a great head unit! Here's the link to it, the link is for the newer better version I wish I had 😭🤣
amzn.to/48tBvTt