BMW Series 1 E87 PDC not working. Module replacement and programming.
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2019
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This car came to me with an issue with the parking sensors system.
The original module was missing... probably water damaged, a common issue on this car, and the replacement module did not worked, even after coding... follow me on this video to find out why, and how to correct replace and code a second hand PDC module.
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You should have mentioned why these modules usually go faulty. The over priced pieces of German tat fill up with water where the module sits and totally immerses the module. It also screws the CAN Bus on the vehicle making the dash flash and carry on like a set of disco lights amongst the numerous other faults it flags with the diagnostic. Good video, good thought process. Very helpful.
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Yeah apparently it never rains in Germany so BMW put the most important and expensive modules in the lowest parts of the car where water would collect. I'm guessing the marketing department made that decision. Absolutely absurd design of these cars. So far from pure driving pleasure. Had mine a few months and there are daily issues. The most unreliable machine I've ever owned and I've had British cars.
Yep, mine also failed because as the mechanic said it was "swimming in water"
Excellent! I love the details of the diagnosis, the opening of the module. Very well done Luis!
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Excellent inspection and video. It worth mentioning that the BMW catalog gives the exact part number needed by the vehicle (searching by VIN then verifying the option codes). For this very problem you can also find out easily where the speakers are located. (Glad you found out by yourself). Thanks!
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Thanks for your video's, the most detailed clear informative on BMW electric's I've seen great job
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always great lecture to watch, your videos are impeccable. i have never done coding on my maxisys906ts aside from using the cable for dungle upgrade it's just lying in the box. thanks alot
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LOUISE,Awesome/brilliant AND REALLY OPENED MY EYES IN MANY WAYS HOW TO APPROACH AND HANDLE THOSE SYSTEMS AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO CHEEEEEERS BROTHA.
That's the whole idea!
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Again a great video and u always cover things which are informative, that what I love most. 🙂🙂
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These BMW diagnosis/programming/coding videos are very helpful.
Brilliant stuff.
More on the way...😉
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More than professional and just a brilliant sir!!
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Really appreciated your comment!
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@@LMAutoRepairs you are welcome .. just stay forward as always .. best wishes
Hey luis. I replaced a pdc module on a 5serires and didnt need to programme it, worked great. Cant remember the model year but it had an idrive so was plug and play. Cheers dave
Yes... if the module is from an exact same car, it can be just plug and play...
There is a few variables...
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Ok, just so people know.
Cars built before ‘07 and fitted with business radio will have acoustic generators installed. Vehicle fitted with professional radios will have PDC sound through the speakers. Even though you can code an LCI PDC control unit to a version that uses acoustic generators they will not function and the PDC will report Internal control unit and acoustic generator faults. This is because the software in the PDC does not match the coding and creates a checksum error which will be returned as an internal control unit fault. Which is why the faults were logged.
If you ever want to change the PDC, the part number must be cross referred.
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Realy i like what you do thanks for your good explanation
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Lovely job sir luis
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Brilliant as usual
Thanks Jay!
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Great job as usual !!!
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Very helpful video 👍
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very good video as always.thank you
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Very well done!!!
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the difference is that one is for vehicles with a dashboard monitor and the other for vehicles without a monitor. The left one is for vehicles without monitor
Not exactly...
I have explained in the video...
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Just wondering which voltage stabiliser you use when programming?
nice video, need to get myself one of those tablets.... oh, they're over 1K ... darn
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Good expérience
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Excellent video and your english is fantastic. I own a 1 series e87 116i m sport and I'm going to fit a new stereo system but I need to buy the correct harness to use it so that I can operate it using the steering wheel buttons etc. I'm being told now though that there are two versions of this harness, one to use if the pdc beeping comes through stereo speakers and one if it does not. Does anybody know if the parking sensor beeping comes out independent speakers OR the actual stereo speakers on the e87 m sport? Cheers
Does your scanner hold all the programming codes within or do you have to download them from a secondary source and if so from where?
I think your videos are very good and full of valuable information top marks.
They are on the Autel servers...
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Good video thanks alot
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good job
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Excellent vid. It would have been plug and play for pdc with like for like part number. Alarm siren , I have the latest on e63 , replacement is bilaterally exchangeable but have to be coded , go figure.
It is always advisable to code if possible...
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I think cars with the base spec audio system use the separate speakers, and the higher spec ones play the PDC tones through the stereo.
Probably...
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Great.. can u tell me how to fix bsd on ecu same e87
Im abit skeptic abt coding 2nd unit ecus with the maxisys,if it can do as i mentionned below,then i shall not save for autohex or avdi bmw,as they cost a fortune for single brand, now this maxisys seems to be doing the job for a huge variety of cars, hey bro let me know.
great video buddy, very helpful. I would like to know what is the diagnostic tool that you are using. Thanks in advance. Keep up the good work and the great explanation.
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Using the Autel MaxiSys MS908P
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19:15 - You are testing the wires for continuity but how long is your multimeter cables to go from the front all the way to the trunk? :D
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They are bout 1.5m each...
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That would be interesting to know if you can code the *car* to work with the first module (through the speakers)
Possibly, if the multimedia system would accept the coding.. which probably wouldn't...
Never tried it though...
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question : based on your experience, what current car would you avoid and what do you think are the best choices? (personal opinion of course), myself i researched city cars and tried to keep it as simple as possible bought an aygo, seem to have a good rep for reliability, it has very few things tied to cpu, real manual gearbox etc
Yes, agree with that one... It all depends what you want it for...
For city driving, definitely something small, economical and practical, I am myself in the market for one...
For the "Sunday" ride, you might want something more comfortable, if you want to have 2 cars obviously...
I personally, like BMW, for that's a personal choice...
French cars are not too bad, but they go wrong quite easily...
Every car will have pros and cons...
Go Toyota or Kia/Hyundai...end of discussion ;-)
Hey , thanks for uploading the very helpful. Unfortunately i have an issue with my 2007 X5 E70, i have the flashing PDC light (But no sound), i have a PDC warning on start up with the a fault code for a PDC module, i have no warnings from the sensors at all (I have 8 in total) I have already changed the PDC module (same part number as previous) but no joy. Ive checked all the sensors and none of them are clicking and giving any sign of life? Do you have any advice? Cheers
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Yes, scan the car and go from there...
Anything else is pure guess work...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks for the reply. After running a scan it came back with a PDC fault code - 9E3B (supply voltage to parking aid sensors, short circuit to ground, permanent) cheers
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You either have an internal module fault, or a wiring issue somewhere...
Disconnect all the sensors at the module, and see if code changes...
Then plug one at the time to see which one faults...
Hello, I have the exact same problem! Where did you source this part from and is there another part with the function to power 2 separate speakers? Thank you
As I said in the video... eBay...
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thanks for your time
I have question if you don't mind !
do you know any a good center teaching how to repair Electronics and Computer's car , also the ABS brake system &&&
Pass... do a Google search, I am sure you will find something...
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you are welcome
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Where the water was coming from? Shouldn't you fix the water leaking problem? My car have the same problem, water in the pdc module, how can I find where the water is coming from or prevent the water from damaging does component??
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My old pdc module was damaged from the water. I put a now one... But when I wash the car the pdc gave me the same error. I made some holes for the water drain but it doesn't fix the leak problem, do you know where is the common spot for the leaking issue?
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Hi, I'm having a problem during installing my PDC on my E46. Maybe you can shed me some lights.
I'm successfully retrofit PDC on my E46 but when it comes to programming (I'm using NCS Expert btw) it works until I restart the car, after I restart the car the PDC will no longer work until I code it again. I tried to scan what the problem is but my scanner shows no issues with it, then I tried it code it again and it works till I turn the car off.
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Have you added the code to the VO/FA and coded the car?
That's how it should be done...
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when doing the coding with the maxisys did you just run coding or did you have to give in all the coding parameters ? is it automatically coding ?
BMW codes based on the VO...
So, basically no... The Maxisys reads the VO and codes based on that...
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great man :D
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Very good videos from you mate. I follow you to learn every day. I got a very strange situation I would like if you can help me...
My boss took my PDC connector on my 320d e 90 to measure the values and plug in.... After that I have a message on the dash saying electronic failure.everything works on the car. Have you got any idea what it could be? Thank you in advance
Have you scanned the car?
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes, and no faults related. The only fault I have is
9D12 siren and tilt sensor
A0B1 input selector
A6CF auc sensor
I have them more than 2 years
I have one that is unknown instrument cluster E10714
@@LMAutoRepairs I think I found the problem, I just don't know what was the cause. After scratch my head allot today with my scanners, I found with my Delphi that the instrument cluster coding doesn't match with frm. Tomorrow if I have time I will try to code with ista p .
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End up being the cluster lost de coding, I get the ista-p and programme it. All works just fine.
To use car speakers for PDC, a Professional Radio is required, this car has Business Radio.
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Wish they left the old control unit in the car so you could've compared.
Hi again will it code 2nd unit CAS, ECU MSD81,, MSV70 with the infineon TCxx MCU, JBE,FZD, FEM/BDC,MS43 ecu like modules with security info ISN . iu said u bought one pdc module off ebay ,meeans its a 2nd unit pdc that u code. ok thanks for letting me know,respect
Yes.. the PDC was second hand... I have more videos on coding bmw second hand airbag modules etc...
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GREAT VIDIO , WHERE ABOUTS IN THE UK ARE YOU BASED AS I NEED MY P.D.C FIXING , THATS IF YOU ARE UP FOR THE JOB AND LOCAL TO ME ? , IM IN SHEFFIELD U.K THANKS
Hi imsaavr
I have a 2012 Suzuki Swift recently the battery went flat and it was jumpstarted ever since the yellow steering symbol is showing and the power steering doesn’t work .scanning it it comes up as steering torque sensor
Would this be a fault in the module which is attached to the steering motor?
Any ideas on how to repair or what to look for as a new motor is nearly £900!
Appreciate any help you can give
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Never worked on one of those...
But, have you tried to recalibrate the sensor?
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LM Auto Repairs Thank you luis I’m just wondering what damage an electrical spike will make to the control unit ?
I’m getting a permanent fault of torque sensor
I have parking sensors in my back bumper but I don't have any button for the sensors. The sensors doesn't work. As I can see the sensors are original from BMW but i still can't figure out why they don't work. Any suggestions?
Check the module... they are know to get flooded...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Hey Thank you for the fast reply. I will check it :)
Hi ,is that module the pdc ,New or second hand unit. can it do 2nd unit coding plz. according to me coding 2nd unit is best as new parts cost a fortune,if it can code 2nd unit then its a great tool,if not, then best is to read the flash with a good programmmer and clone the pdcThis is what i do as jobBut several good programmers needed.at least 2. plz let me know.
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Hi mate, i use ISTA a lot but the thing with replacing modules is that you first need to check with your VIN what the exact part number is for your car. (Realoem.com) I had a similar problem, but ISTA gave me a prompt with wrong part number. So I had to look it up on Realoem.com. I agree with you that it’s handy to have these tools but sometimes you on your own😋 (BMW_Tiger) Great video 👍🏽 again!! So the Autel is better than the arti?😋
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They both have their pros and cons...
I am planning to make a video in the end with my opinion on it...
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Hi I have e46, my sensors were working until few days ago, all of a sudden I’m getting the long beep of death when engaging reverse which means there is fault with system. I checked fuse it is fine. None of the sensors are ticking. Surely not all 4 will die at the same time. Could this be fault with the module?
Possibly...
But nothing like scan the car first...
Otherwise you will be just guessing...
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@@LMAutoRepairs ok I will need to buy scanner to check. Thanks
found the speaker with a 9 volt battery
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Hello there, I have the same problem on my car, no signal at all on the dashboard , can you please give same help , thanks
Best start by scan the car, or visually check the PDC module area for water ingress...
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@@LMAutoRepairs I done the scan but not coming up on the scanner, thank you
Where is the diversity module for the e88?
Not really sure on that one... usually rear pillar or roof...
Try TIS online...
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Best mechanic ever
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Don't use a battery charger, use a battery stabilizer ;)
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My one is kinda both... it keeps the voltage stable during programming etc...
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you cannot plug and play a new PDC module in a BMW. Simplest way is the use NCSExpert and SGCODERIN a blank .MAN file. I liked your investigation process, but writing this as someone may find it helpful!
You can't plug and play pretty much any module on a BMW... lol
Yes, that's another option...
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Worst car I have ever owned, constant problems, PDC unit submerged in 500ml of water, ABS pump failed, timing chain jumped twice in 4 years, both drive shaft abs reluctor rings corroded and needed replaced, ecu module under drivers side failed and needed replaced as car wouldn’t start, never buying a BMW again.
You have been unlucky... I must to say!
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