Why did house dancing leave the club? | Resident Advisor
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Our latest film looks at a tradition as old as house music itself.
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In the early days of house music, dancers took their craft just as seriously as the DJs. What emerged became known as house dancing, a freeform style that elevates self-expression and personality as much as technique.
DJ Qu, who provided valuable insights to RA on this film, started house dancing around 1987. (He's one of a handful of dancers who went on to become successful DJs and producers, alongside the likes of Joey Anderson and Seven Davis Jr.) Attending clubs like Zanzibar and The Path in New Jersey and Kilimanjaro's, The Choice, Mars and Sound Factory in New York, he was drawn to "the way house dancers incorporated so many different dancing styles to house music, but did it in a way that was super graceful and complimented the music."
"It was a special time for music and dance," he says.
Long before the current global pandemic closed down most of the world's nightclubs, house dancing had (mostly) vanished from the club scene. In this film, we look at why that happened, and find out where house dancing ended up.
Music in order of appearance:
Willie Graff & Tuccillo -To The Music (DJ QU rmx) [Strength Music Recordings] 2018
DJ QU - Picazón [Strength Music Recordings] 2018
Black Corsairs - Thak’s Dub [Worldship] 1997
Teflon Dons - Inbetweener's Dilemma [Must Have Records] 2016
DJ QU - Liquid Beats [Strength Music Recordings] 2013
Teflon Dons - Damn Mosquitos! [My Love Is Underground] 2016
Teflon Dons - Zu Mountain (Dub) [Must Have Records] 2016
DJ QU - Step Back Up [Strength Music Recordings] 2011
Teflon Dons - Eve Of The Freak Styles [Worldship] 1996
Production credits:
Narrator: Turtle Bugg
Writer: Max Pearl
Script supervisor: Turtle Bugg
Camera: Patrick Elmore
Editors: Sophie Misrahi, Guy Clarke
Dubbing Mixer: Guy Clarke
Special thanks to DJ Qu, Caleaf Sellers & Tony Mcgregor, Krystine Walker
Extra footage:
Cutting Records
Diane Martel - House of Tres
underground dance fun
Satelliet Studio
Caleaf Sellers
Caprice87
Paul McKee
The Kennedy Centre
Carloscda40
Andres Torres
Thump
DJ SCOTTO - NASA/Shelter
Alphonso STEPZ Thomas
Summer Dance Forever
House Dance Forever
Koppi Mizrahi
MainStreamDance
Stringz313
Giova Breakill
ExNaStYx20
SAV SAV
Krystine Walker was interviewed by Turtle Bugg in a special Instagram live on 15/08 for a deeper dig into the wonderful world of house dancing - check it out here fb.watch/7ubWweyjlu/
Is it possible to view/stream the interview after somewhere?
@@BlackFighterz Just updated the link above :)
The link you provided to the world of house dancing, is not available shows it is not available on the Facebook. Is there another way to find it?
Go one place, South Africa, it’s there. I grew up in house and turned 17 as it was growing in the 80’s then I moved to Japan. Epic! I’m still in love. We have a gift that we shall keep with us. Neither of my Sons have ever expressed a desire to Club, Dance or embrace what we call house and that generation is all the same. I feel bad for this generation.
We brought a change of clothes..we barely drank alcohol...it was generally known that you didn't go to hook up...you came in you danced ... and if you let drums move in you..you felt real joy and a connection to your ancestors. I know it sounds weird but sometimes the peak of the night was when the music stopped and it would just be the drums.. by this time you had no moves you just kinda stomped in a fog of bliss...
Exactly 🎵🎵🎵
Yessssss
What kind of nerd lives in the moment
Well said so many of us have felt that connection its instinctive like a metronome body and feet moving without thinking most of us will never know which tribe or continent this subconscious natural skill came from.
I dunno about the hookups man...
Our ancestors danced around bon fires and then ended the night in the most ultimate release which is intimacy with a partner. It's like the Ultimate culmination of a dance
Now, at 60 years old, I sit back and watch these kids, and it breaks my Heart. They do Not let go, for fear they might be labeled... weird, crazy, whatever. I was a House Head, as we are called. I was a Classical Dancer as a kid and Knew Nothing about Dancing in a Club. I went to the LOFT for the first time, in 1979. It was there, that I learned to Dance. I have always said, the LOFT taught me to dance, but it was at the Garage, that I Learned to Fly. I came to LA, after the Garage had Closed, and the children out there, well. I was labeled weird. Cuz I mostly Danced Alone, and I wasn't dancing Just to The Drum Beat. No, I danced to the Vocals, the Strings, or other instruments, and of course, the Drumbeats. This was I guess not heard of. Now, Cell Phones are More important than Feeling Music.
So true! Dancing to all of the many sounds of the Music -- vocals, strings, instrumentals --- all of it. I'm a little younger but in the same age group, Powerplant, Shelter, Sound Factory, Tracks and others When G. Rap came on the scene, not rap in general or even hip hop, but with GR, the whole vibe started to shift. The scene became fronting and aggressive, and could get set off in a hot second. The club scene that I knew from the early 80s to the late 90s was was warm and joyfull and fun. Keep The Music alive -- Peace.
Co-signed. IF there was more of this beautiful, spiritual VIBE, there wouldn’t be so many angry folk out there. I appreciate YOU & your post. Bless up. 🙏🏽
It would seem that way....but it was the music that changed...it lost its soul and this is the end result.
I remember my sister would go to the Garage. I thought it was weird a club called the Garage I was young.
AMEN!
If House Dancing teaches us anything, it's that people need to dance in the god damn club
Ffs, thank you.
L🤭L 📴 👀
In america they are called wallflowers.
@@jadeduh4555 I call them too Sadiddy
amen
Because back in the early days we didn’t give a fuck about staring at the DJ, and came for the music and to dance, really dance and get into the music and lose yourself.
and that's what's up
I agree!!! I'm at a club to DANCE.
I was headlining a party onetime and everyone was just standing on the dancefloor with their drinks and cameras pointed at me. I'm grabbing the mic and go "You people are crazy. Why the fuck you standing there and looking at me doing my job? Have fun and dance... If this party wasn't meant for dancing, I'd be playing some Mozart and Bach for you to enjoy your fancy drinks". Next track I played lit up the place and I haven't seen a standing person since. In the end I thanked everyone for the energy because as a DJ, you get energized by the crowd. I explained it to them like "If you are standing, I just assume you don't like what I play and that makes me anxious. I feel like I am doing a bad job and that sucks. Don't give a shit about who is playing, you're in a club for the sound and the movement. I doubt you'd call a plumber and be behind his back with a phone filming all the time while he is working."
@@puffin20 Thank you for your service!!🙌
blame it mostly on phones.
I personally thank everyone for checking out this video.
I am sure there will be more to come. I enjoyed adding my 2 cents.
I am so happy you did! Hearing a feminine perspective is important! This is such a great video!
Your voice is so important to me in this documentary! I've boogied at Shelter only a few times in the early 00's. You dancers there were my idols !!!!
Thank you for the vibe. I miss the energy from being on the dance floor.
Big ups
Salute Queen 👊🏼😎
I remember a friend once told me he didn’t dance until he was drunk because he wasn’t very good at dancing. It broke my heart. I don’t dance to look good or impress anyone. I do it to FEEL good. And most of my clubbing was with gay male friends so I wasn’t trying to pull either. The only people I’m trying to impress on the dance-floor are my dead ancestors.
That’s why I like house music, it’s danceable and infectious. Ppl can’t help but dance
Yes ❤️
beautifully put
I was this outcasty punk rock kid, and in high school gym, I refused to dance for the 3 week section. I was athletic, very good at skateboarding, but I was scared and self conscious. That all changed when I went to my first EDM event. Everything changed. I may not be the best on the floor, but I don't care, because I just might be having the most fun on the floor.
Sadly I need drugs to party I can’t dance without i wish I wasn’t this way but it is like this for a lot of house heads
"self-expression needs a community to thrive"
This is why we're dying out, No Self Expression
@@martinbirdwell7986 respectfully nah, its because theres no community
The saddest thing is that Europeans know more about the pioneers and origins of house/techno music than Americans. Its about damn time it got the same respect as hiphop does in Chicago, new york, detroit.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
That's hard to understand as a European. And now those same american major label guys are erasing house & techno culture in Europe to replace it with commercial US top 40 music and fake rappers.
@@timchromecast As with most things in life when big corporations smell money they will inevitably take advantage and therefore we are going through a phase of EDM culture. But there are still many good underground events and clubs playing good techno/house music
Word. As a European (Belgium) in our clubs records were played from Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Joey Beltram, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson. I've actually heard all of them live in the 90's when they performed in Belgium. Sad that most people nowadays think that EDM is the only and one form of dance music. Mid 90's Belgium, Netherlands, Germany influenced the genre as well. If interested check out Bonzai, Cherry Moon, Antler Subway records, R&S records
@@davydebrycke6106 Joey Beltram, RnS records were great underground house tracks n music. I’m from London and in 1990/91/92 these tracks were played and inspired the Hardcore/Jungle and then eventually DnB genres. I had a conversation many years ago while performing in Germany with DJ Ray Keith one of the pioneers of all the above music movements and we both agreed that all of it roots from House music with many other influences but it is all a form of house music. What a beautiful ever growing tree. I’m of the age n knowledge now to know that it all stems from a handful of music pioneers stretching all the way back to blues, jazz, rock n roll n soul. Honestly it can be traced back to a handful of people. Watch the video of Little Richard and hear him speak about Jimmy Hendricks as his guitarist n James Brown as his backing signer 😳 then Ike Turner who created Rocket 89 which was the first Rock n roll track and hear who influenced him to play music ?? A young fellow who used to eat meals at Ikes mums house that person was the legendary BB King 😳 it’s is unbelievable how far back you can go. African drum rhythms throbbed on European instruments and that is really what we are listening n dancing too. Truly amazing 🙌🏼🙌🏼
It's not dead, large cities are just too expensive. When the average person can barely afford to live in a large city anymore, club culture dies and second tier cities aren't really geared towards foreigners / diversity so you largely have strange parties even though organizers are trying hard.
That's my experience in Europe anyway.
The crazy dancers were largely not career focused or wealthy heirs and just did some random job that paid the bills.
New York, Berlin, San Francisco etc. were cool places when you didn't have to be in the top 20% of income earners to live a relatively smooth life.
you nailed it in the head, historically it has been the minorities who have created the cultural ambience in the cities and once it becomes popular, upper class moves in to catch the aroma, and watch the show, want to be part of it,..usually gentrification kills the real vibe. that we see now is the carcass being moved with gold strings like a puppet with cologne so it doesn't stink, but they are somewhere in some underground neighborhood dancing away,,
@@stephenabstract1536 it depends a lot on the city tbf
This scene existed all over Chicago back in the 90's. Clubs like Red Dog, Kaboom, The Warehouse, Prop House, Crobar, The Shelter, Excalibur, Prime & Tender, Crazy Rock, Karma and a ton of others was all about this life. GREAT TIMES. Nothing but jamming on the floor and almost always harmony. Very rarely was there a fist fight. It was just a Soul thing, a Spiritual thing, a Body thing.
Isn‘t it Chicago House and Detroit Techno that started it all?
Currently, Smartbar in Chicago on Fri/Sat/Sunday features world class DJ's, a great soundsystem, & serious dancers.
that’s because people back in the days went out to have real fun and clubbing was a stress reliever besides getting laid.
I was a regular on the scene in the day ( like 3 to 4 nights a week) and dont remember any issues or violence ever.
I'm from LA bUt I clubbed at Excalibur in 2006 bad ass times. In LA house was huge AF in the 90s as well. LA had humpty vision and chi town had bad boy Bill!!!
House dancers. Almost art form. I’m 50 and still dance like I did back in my 20s. I’m from Texas but have often been asked if I was from Chicago because of my style o dance. Even in Ibiza people asked if I was from Chicago while on the dancefloor! I miss watching these amazing dancers and feeling their energy emanate throughout the dancefloor. And I don’t even have to be drunk to let loose on the floor.
Shit I’m 49. Still pump house and drum n bass and jungle. Never dies
I’m 43 and grew up in TX. Dallas and Austin had pretty solid rave scenes in the late 90s and on. I’m in Chicago now actually and still shake that ass at least twice a week. I don’t wanna think about having to hang it up some day, but that’ll be when I get my entry stamp tattoo
The music in this documentary..... whoa! The prices for these records on discogs.... whoa again!!!
Central banks creating asset inflation. Yes vinyl is a hard asset, like art. So blame the government (tough pill to swallow for all the socialists in the scene)
@@string22 No, it's because the records are good and rare and therefore go for more cash.
@@espenfarstad1697 but a record that becomes rare today sells for more now than another record that became rare in 1990. Its called inflation and it applies to any product
@@string22 Why does that have anything to do with socialism? Socialism is not when the government does something, it's about workers owning the means of production, and that doesn't necessary involve giving more power to the government. And many central banks, including the Federal Reserve of USA are not government agencies, but more like a corporation that is accountable to the government.
@@deepseadarew6012 totally agree was gonna say that myself, also the current government is completely neo-liberal capitalist
I'm glad to report from here in the mother land South Africa that house music is alive and well. It even evolved into sub genres like Kwaito, Afro house, Gqom and more recently the Amapiano. Curtis Harman and Glenn Underground told us that house music will never die. They were right.
WISH I COULD EXPERIENCE THAT WITH YOU!!!
I heard! I need to get there!
@@DMVHouseRadioOne come through, summer is knocking down here.
And Straight Tribal
I always find it super sad if I turn up to an event and there's only a few dancers really cutting loose. There's always a few though :) Although it makes me sound old, I really think a lot of the problem is phones; not just phones but all the conditioning that comes with them. On both an individual and collective level in clubs, phones inhibit people from really expressing themselves how they want.
The dancefloor(and clubbing) at its best is really a magical experience, otherworldly. You can't bring the world in with you, nor can you take that atmosphere out with you when you leave. It's there to be enjoyed in the moment.
yes, that's a big deal...
as someone who grew up while phone cameras were already a thing, my first experience at a party with banned cellphones was otherwordly
I haven't considered this much at all but I can see this being a huge deal if people are out with their peers. check out your local ecstatic dance event, i found a whole group of people that were really cutting it loose, sober.
A club in NY does this called Nowadays. Cant use your phone on the dancefloor thank god
I experience the same issue in clubs that strictly disallow taking pictures where people really aren't on their phones. I think the main issue is today's clubs focusing too much on profits alone. Cost-efficient tiny, crowded spaces don't give dancers enough room to express themselves. Extremely loud music makes the club more money by pushing people off the floor to the bar whenever they want to have a conversation but it's also very much overwhelming when trying to focus on movement. So a lot of people won't see a point in learning how to dance when they can't end up using their skills.
I remember mid 90s me and my boys would pretty much hit smaller clubs all throughout the week and practice all night and then when the weekend rolled around and there was a big party/event we were already sharp
I loved it when they said it was just called clubbing. That’s how we saw it in the uk too. Not RAVING. never once did I say are we going out raving. You were either at a party or a club.. L don’t understand why people move so little in clubs these days. I for one will always dance as exuberantly as my aching bones will let me. Keep up the good work. 😍90’s
I was a house head that came to life beginning in the 80s which carried me into 90s and beyond. I took my 1st baby steps and tripped into life back then. House became my way of losing all my self inhibitions and I learned to live. House became my heartbeat and the dance was my soul. Tears are filling my eyes right now as I remember the dance floor and the joy my soul felt when I would lose myself in the music oblivious of the world around me.
And it all started at Mendels and Sauers……then the Candy Store, wild hare, the underground, the music box, the playground, club lerae…..etc😂🤣🥰
I swear this takes me back. I miss those days in NY at the Sound Factory when the House dance crews would battle. These kids today don’t compare to my era.
I remember the Red Zone also and whatever club was it at the moment .
Partying in the 90’s in NYC was so fun!
Props for telling a piece of our history💯
I grew up in the Rave scene of the early 2000s, I went ham on the dancefloor, come off dripping sweat, I would get high fives, and people would come up to me and let me know I was dope! I always dance like I don't give a fuck about anyone including myself and just have fun, letting the beat move my body on its own. I could feel everything, I was connected to the music! I think people are trying too hard these days. Just let loose!
dancers make the night, not just the DJ - awesome documentary
In Europe and Japan house is still huge. You're not taking house from Newark New Jersey or Chicago either. I love house music grew up in NYC going to the World and The Shelter and The Palladium. Any hot spots to dance away the stress of the week. The vibe was always peace everyone just came out to have a good time. That's when Unique was still in SoHo and when we had tokens instead of Metro Cards. You'd dance until the middle of the next morning. Then find a chill diner to get something to eat. The good ole days. Blessings to everyone reading this..🙏🏿❤️🙏🏿❤️💯
There might be a few factors. New people came in looking to get laid instead of to dance, alcohol moved into an X vibe, the DJs are now on a stage so people think they are at a concert, and not engaging in the other dancing strangers around them, the internet exploited house music and then there's those pesky cell phones w cameras...
So true. Never understood this worship the DJ on stage thing - what do people think they’re going to see?!? Just watched a Chemical Brothers gig from 2016 and people in boxes were sitting down! 🤷🏾♀️
DJ's were at stages in the 80's as well (in schools, community centers of all sorts). People where dancing their a... off anyways. The priorities in life in general were different.
$$$$ Alcohol $$$$ moved into the x-vibe….. Absolutely! Alcohol is a depressant and people lose coordination with alcohol. Alcohol and dancing is ehh. On top of that 90s and early 2000s x was legit and more powerful. Today’s x is fake junk. I remember watching drug documentary (probably drug inc) and MDMA is from trees. These trees are so protected now to reach. Easier to make fake cheap junk that fails miserably in mimicking.
As a dj i can tell you i much prefer a dank little corner to being up on stage on show like some sort of prize pony. Egotistical glory hunters have taken over then scene and turned it into a souless void full of pretentious posers hunting for the perfect selfie.
Trying to get laid killed the urban clubs also starting in the 90s the 70s and 80s was still about the music. Women dancing with women a straight club is a club killer also
Eight minutes and three sconds of golden house music culture knowledge. This video is a treasure, the essence of P.L.U.R. ! 💞🎶💞🎶
We can answer the question with the rise of anxiety in the youth. That debilitating anxiety is due to a slower development in social, mental, and emotional wellbeing all because of the large scale availability of devices and screen time. SCREEN TIME IS RUINING US.
agreed.
Great video. First time I went to shelter I snuck in at 15. That night changed the trajectory of the rest of my life.
In the underground house system, rythmn based offenses are considered especially heinous.
In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Vibing Unit. These are their sets.
anyone here thinks this guy sounds like the intro from Law in Order or am i tripping?
loooooool
Reminded me of the A-Team for some reason 😁
sounds more of another LaTour track.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Much needed!
Also I wonder why boiler room and similar formats focus on the dj visually, instead of showing good dancers soultrain style
Decent clubs used to understand this and not orient the dj at the front like a preacher In a pulpit. Dance floors don’t really work when everyone is facing the same way.
have you seen boiler rooms? rarely do you see dncing. just dorks with cellphones too cool to dance
@@benhall2235 right
Why did most all street dances leave the street and club? The dance schools started teaching people you need to have polished wooden floors, mirrors the length of the wall, and a teacher to guide 20 people through a choreographed step by step by step if you’re going to do ‘real’ dancing….I still throw down in the store, on a street corner, etc…doesn’t matter.
Another issue is that most clubs (in the US), aren’t really big enough to dance anymore, and most don’t have an actual dance floor.
Due to gentrification, an entire meta of night clubs died, and zoning laws changed the ability for club owners to rebuild.
We would up with cities filled with “lounges”, bars and hybrid restaurants, that really have no space to actually “break it down” and dance.
The era of music and nightlife has changed, and the overall mentality of people who go out have changed as well.
People nowadays go out to take staged party pictures, but not to actually experience a good time.
The staged party pictures just kill me complete with the practiced poses. The people live for it, so crazy as if they need to "prove" that they're having fun lol.
As someone that's been listening to House music since '86, anyone that claims there's such thing as "House dance" and points to something very specific--probably isn't of the House scene at all. This craze seems to have become a social media phenomenon about ten years ago, with all manner of clout chasers cris-crossing the globe in search of adulation and trophies, while blank-faced and unimpressed audiences watch them and cheer only for the big, goofy tricks.
Those who truly know simply danced in a manner they felt most appropriate for the music, without labeling what they do, and most of all, without turning into carbon copies of one another.
10 points !
@@cashox4
I appreciate that, big man.
House dance as it is now has bacome a competitive sport, with defined movements that has to be copied accurately, judges giving points and competitors being solely focused on winning not on dancing. Flowing with the music, expressing how you feel and understand it with your movements is hardly seen now. It's all sport.
That's how I felt when I saw this video -- I was around for that place and time, and never heard it called that.
as someone that learned to dance at the loft in the late 70s, i have to agree. back then it wasn't even what i think of as house music, it was some melange of disco/funk/latin/afro/etc. the music moved you however it moved you, and the non-judgemental, open, loving and supportive vibe was what allowed everyone to dance their dance without constraints. love saves the day!
House dancing moved overseas and is alive and well. It's where all of our great music styles and dancing goes to live.
Really enjoyed hose music from 1999 to 2010 especially deep house, progressive house music and many other variations of house music. While the saying goes, good things don't always last forever, can still listen to the many tunes when the thirst is there at a push of a button. Sweet !
House music is still rockin here in new jersey
This is one of the most important video about the electronic music scene.
We definitely still dance in Manchester UK! That's all I've done for the past two weeks. I ache everywhere
Makes me miss good London warehouse parties.
dopee, Red Zone was my spot. I used to show up in a white button up, Fat tie, thick soul village shoes and a Flower Pot hair cut. Best years of my life, though my knees hate me for it now
Not everyone understands house music
It's a spiritual thing
A body thing
A soul thing
Love to see good dancers in the club, they spread good energy to others, that in turn feel more confident to engage with the music.
This is SO good. I'm a Brit, who grew up with our version of acid house and then rave music, and dancing was THE thing to me. Sure, I dabbled with substances, but it was never purely about altered states: it was ONLY about carving out your own space on the dancefloor. And rave music was a brilliant, hi NRG style to really let loose with fancy footwork. I live and breathe this shit every damned day. Peace. X
Clubbing Nowadays Ain't Nothing Like It Was Back In The Days(70s-90s)Omg
In the late 80's, I didn't have a clue what I was doing on the dancefloor but enjoyed every single minute. Looking back, I thought I was pretty cool when in fact people must have been laughing at me. Did I care ? Did I fuck.
Don’t know about house dancing but house music is definitely still out there and very much alive
Man, the comment about drugs and alcohol is really accurate. I remember going to clubs and wilding all night, stone sober, me and the other dancers, while everyone else got wasted and made a mess.
True,I did have a few beers here and there ,but some nights were strictly alcohol free because of the venue .I t was all about the music and dancing
Half of the tunes in this clip are from Teflon Dons album. Nice!
Hearing _"Black Corsairs - Thak’s Dub"_ and the _"Teflon Dons - Inbetweener's Dilemma"_ back to back in this video was awesome.
you the real don
do you know the tune at the very end ?
@@jamescunningham4199 Teflon Dons - Eve Of The Freak Styles [Worldship] 1996
both great acts !
Til this day I still dance HOUSE HEAD for LIFE! I was cautious about the dj (knew them personally) chitown House girl, because i knew what crowd he would bring with him. I didnt go out to stand around, chat, mingle, flirt, none of that i came to release to bond with other fellow house heads. I dressed in comfortable dance clothes cute sexy and freeing with the right shoes(i took that seriously) ready to sweat, release and be free. Once that bass drop its OVER! House music is spiritual for me, my therapy. The right dj knows how to pull you in, drench your soul with the right intro of the tunes. Once he/she got me its DONE. I go within its an healing art. True healing art. There are no rules, but to respect eachother.
Imagine trying to get a bag of baby powder into a club now..
Jesus!!!!!
❤ House music & dance parties in NYC is unbeatable. Just absolutely amazing to lose yourself to the music with a whole room of amazing dancers esp when the DJs hit that sweet spot + just the right feeling on the dance floor. Props to Tony, Caleaf, Cebo, Ejoe, Brian, Kim and Cricket for continuing to pass on this dance to the next generation and Voodoo Ray for the parties & memories 🙏🏽💕
It really is curious to me that people nowdays doesn't feel the music anymore, I was born in 2001 and since I met house about 5 years ago it simply felt right, the more I discovered about the culture the more I fell in love with, I'm not even in my 20s and the way that the music hits and feels, it is special, to everyone that lived when house was created, I owe you guys a lot, and I will carry your history as long as I live. Much much love from brazil, and I hope you guys trust me and my generation of house heads to keep the culture alive
Thank you everyone
People want to be seen more than dance
Same from Shanghai ❤️
are you Dom from the Amazon series?
i just love seeing people seriously get into the groove in the club, sadly its not really the norm anymore
0:16 RIP Marjorie 4:17 RIP Voodoo Ray
House Music is always about Getting Together!
Amazing history right here. Now I'm glad to finally understand why people from the US came to the BPM in Mexico, and dance in small circles like this, like they were battling each with their best dance moves, and everyone else was like wtf is happening back there.
This makes me remember going to the garage and seeing Liz Torres and Master C&J performing "Face it". That night was nuts!!!!!
because greedy commercialism and unnecessary people hype has turned DJs to "gigs" and the dancers now see themselves as an audience - which contradicts the ethos of house - dancing.
Here’s hoping for a revival🙌🏽
Plus most modern house (what is termed EDM these days) isn't even funky enough to dance to!
I'm an introverted DJ. I wanna please the crowd more than anything, but would really prefer to be behind a wall when I spin. Should be about the music, not the person spinning it.
@@coffeecalmdown there's really good house music now too. And I feel like it's getting more
@@Sweep_The_Leg_Johnny yeah those guys are radio djs. Live DJs gotta bring energy, not just be a robot behind the decks
Smiling. I still love my house music. House head forever!
Some of the fiercest battle went down a the Red Zone during David Morales' tenure but it was also a "party" spot LOL! Then you had Jr. at the Sound factory. Miss those days . . .
Wow! I was just discussing Jr. at Sound factory and Morales with my best friend last night. Definitely nothing like it now in the City. Last time I enjoyed dancing out with my House heads was when Jellybean had a night in an unexpected venue. Just the way it was in the 80’s. Big space, excellent speakers and hardly no one could stand still because the rhythm took ova!! “House is a feeling”
So glad I was in NYC to catch the tail end of that mood and artistry in the 90's.
Promoters quite often overfill clubs and everyone's staring at the DJ! so you get people just waving one arm and bumping into each other. No room to get down and express yourself at those parties. Greed and Cultural hype at this level make for a total bore off and a claustrophobic feeling. Also, in the west a lot of the time it's a crowd that aren't rooted in the culture of the sound, and haven't witness/learned certain moves from being part of a living culture.
Bring back the underground nightclubs. Guiliani closed alot of the venues in NYC. Used to love go to the clubs in NYC Baltimore New Jersey and DC.
I think it comes down to the appreciation of the music. When house was sprouting up, in all cities, it was so raw, it was new, it emerged a culture of dance with it. Now house has so many sub genres, and people who don’t know the music enough think the commercial house they hear on the radio or in trending playlists on Spotify is a real representation of house. The only people who can educate are the DJS and those who lived in this era!
Long story short, people don’t appreciate the music enough, the history, and don’t let themselves get fully lost in the music
You might be going to the wrong parties, or not going at all anymore and just watching footage from mass festivals on youtube. I started going to clubs in the mid '90s here in Europe, some of which still exist to this day. And there are plenty of new underground clubs and parties, where you have a fantastic atmosphere and appreciation for the music. Might not necessarily be your style of music, but the fresh and new evolves, and I'm still enjoying many styles of dance music very much :)
@@koffiezet def have gone to less over the last 2 years. I’m based in Melbourne, AUS and from America. We’re in our 5th lockdown. It’s ruined the scene over here until we are back open again. Finally, after 5 years of living here, I’ve found my niche in terms of what clubs to go to, what event promo pages to follow, local artists that are pushing out good music from here, record shops, radio stations and music labels to support. I think it comes with time being in a place to support what you like. I definitely didn’t find all of that when I first came here, maybe it was my friends who weren’t into dance that much, even me who has gotten into it in the last 2 years. There’s definitely people who appreciate the music, but not dancing that hard as in this video! I’ve realised here in Melbourne the city is taken over by a lot of pretentious clubs and there’s a smaller scene for the more underground. But the underground scene here is definitely special and emerging
@@tylermitchell9717 I think your right, once deep house became commercial around 99 (and trance) there was little direction for underground dance to go in. It became digestable for anyone.
At that point people who knew nothing about what it really represented hi-jacked it. People now just dont get how much people were passionate and cared about it (thats what you see in the video).
Once you could go to every bar/pub and listen to it, didn't have to search out record shops for vinyl, or make a tune with a studio of equipment, find tapes by copying them with friends, and before 5 people on every street owned decks and could mix (where it used to be 5 in a neighbourhood or city)... It stopped the seperation of part timers (i liked it when most people assumed it was uncredible). Now Its saturated and regugitated with so much disposable shit that to some new comers (past 20 years) the old stuff sounds like the new stuff. It used to be sacred.
house is the most free form, nothing feels better. can be hard to find community outside of huge cities, but finding another house dancer is like finding your long lost sibling
How nice to hear that this community is still up and buzzing!
I used to express myself with house dancing back in the late 90s north England clubbing scene. Those were the days. In my 40s now but still love house as much as ever.
In 90's DANCE FUSION NYC & house music,clubs,dj's changed my life.
LOVE&RESPECT. Dance is...
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MY FAITH IS SLOWLY RISING...not just by this amazing doc, but by all of the special, super awesome, and uniquely inspired, intelligent; SPIRITUAL comments...I am dancer; from my bedroom mirror, to the streets, to my formal training ...ALL OF YOU OUT THERE ARE JUST LIKE ME !!!!! ...😘...so cool. LETS ALL STAY 100% LOCKED IN ON THAT SPIRITUAL VIBE.
2 foot shuffle in 2021.
I was born in the Bronx (1964) and lived in New Jersey.
I'm a Keyboard 🎹 Synthenzier player and make House music.
The reason why they call it "housemusic" is because back in the 80's the computers became powerful enough to record in digital audio at home. Facts!
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I have always loved this style of dancing. I have been seeing it a lot more lately, and hopefully it continues to rise along with similar styles or off-shoots like shuffling
Love this.
Yes, back in the day, it was about the music & dancing. Not about drinking shots & taking selfies.
House still thrives as it always has, in the underground scene. In LA, we have DJs like marques wyatt who runs a DEEP LA, or Josh Billings who runs Focus OC. They book some of most iconic and established house DJs, from Mark Farina, Derrick Carter, Colette, Sneak, Miguel Migs (a few times with Lisa Shaw). As for dancers, we have dancers who do strictly the dance style similar to new york and groovers who learned to dance in the scene.
I dont like using the term House Dancer/Dancing cause its been used to label a "style" that has been established with foundations that is usually of the New York region. I remember Brooklyn terry saying during a class of his, "we never called it house dance, yall did." It was the same with the groover scene in LA and in the Bay. We just danced at the undergrounds to house music, learning from each other, and establishing our own foundations. Not until New York style of dance and their teachers that came to LA/Bay to pass down their knowledge did you see their style injected into the LA/bay style of dance. In the underground today you will see dancers that dance with varying amounts of the new york style incorporated with what they naturally learned from the LA/Bay scene.
alright mate, we get it you like house. geez
@@Asiosky211 😂😂😂😂😂
Groovers
Facts. The underground house music scene in Brooklyn is flourishing! There are so many incredibly talented producers and DJs (lots of women!) and so many fresh new sounds! And many collectives of artists and musicians and party professionals who love to bring people together on the dancefloor with good vibes and great music. Aaah it's great to be back =)
Well said. I’m moving to DC. Anything you can tell me about the house music scene there that could help me get plugged in?
I have often described my first experience going into a club in 1993 in San Jose, CA and seeing house dancing. The impression never left and I still house dance until this day.
Let's start NO CELL PHONE Clubs and parties. Any one in Chi-town? Let's link up!
I used to cut it hard on the dance floor.
Philly needs clubs like this again all club music
Spending all of my clubbing life in Europe, I was beyond surprised that people actually danced in NYC!
I’ve seen pro dancers dance, complete amateurs dance, I myself danced with my two left feet… back to Europe, back to nodding…
How come you thought ppl in NY don’t dance? how many years were you “clubbing”for and when was it? Just curious 😬✌️
@@vikingsista1 I was surprised because in all European clubs I’ve been to, it’s rare to see more than a handful of people dancing…
From 99 to 15 approx
💯 came from Jazz. I love the end of 80s into the early 90's. I found hip-house the fusion between House and Hip-Hop. Mantronix, Tony Scott I remember. Drugs took over and cleaned out the dancing part in the UK for sure. Great little documentary.
I've been to a couple of the events in Amsterdam, in the audience. I'd been doing house dance in Edinburgh for some time. I checked out the comps after a stint writing about clubbing in Ibiza and being frustrated at the end of the season with phones etc, not much dancing or even enjoyment on a lot fo the clubbers faces. Quite the thing seeing a room full of people facing each other dancing when it went to a break. I was going to write about it about four years, almost in the vein of the lead questions posed at the beginning of this video. I should maybe get back to it...
As a late 80s kid I grew up in times when clubs were synonymous with dancing. The music there was mostly house, trance, eurobeat and techno and the atmosphere was inviting and relaxed - a total freedom of expression! People loved letting themselves go and dance to the beat how their bodies felt it, the others would notice someone's cool moves and try to copy them - that's how basically everyone learned to dance and move back then. I never cared much about professional house dancers or their special events. Glad for them that their community is thriving more than ever. That doesn't change the fact, however, that people still do not dance in clubs anymore. I even know a bunch of professional dancers myself who never dance outside of their studios and events. The only places where I can still see some of that freedom spirit are techno and psytrance parties. At other venues the crowds are standing still trying to look cool and not do something "weird".
“House dancing in the ‘90s was kind of a New York thing.”
Clearly the guy saying that wasn’t spending much time in Chicago in the ‘90s.
Or Detroit
@@nos4me for sure. That really was a pretty ridiculous claim to make. I lived in Chicago but partied all over the Midwest in the ‘90s; Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and they all had a ton of good “house dancing,” if that’s what we’re calling the style now.
@@murderparker7968 we were dancing 4 nights a week to DJs like Doc Martin and Mark Farina out in LA too back then.
@@CrescentRollCarl yeah mark farina, that’s a whooole thing in Chicago because he’s from Chicago, got his start here, then moved to SF in the 90s(if memory serves) then got huge, and started being billed as being from SF on fliers. Old school party scene politics, yah know?
I actually got into house music because my older sister would be practicing her moves before going to underground house clubs in London. It was late 80's early 90's
"self expression needs a community to thrive" 🥳
There's another House music documentary here on YT Come as You Are with people talking a lot about that.
This was 🔥🔥🔥 I thoroughly enjoyed the information, the music, the history. Definitely inspired to learn more.
Love this, love the real house community, house music allowed me to FEEL and EXPRESS my individuality without the social excuse of needing to be intoxicated to do so freely. Amazing to confirm that this is the soul of house music.
Amazing memories of an amazing time. Especially in NYC. Glad to see the House dance style making a come back.
"Magnificent !!!!!"
I Truly Miss this !!
House dance saved my life for suuuuurreee
I love house
Because people are too busy filming the moment rather than living it.
Too much focused on self awareness
I think it's more like people know everyone has a phone and are anxious about being filmed so they are more reserved. also people are just more depressed & anxious in general as everything is in decline. there's also just more and more people, every club is packed to the brim.
I just felt in love again for house music and the energy it brings me. Thanks a lot.
Paradise Garage from '77 to '87 was the ultimate club experience. The Loft was an intimate party scene. There were others such as Club Zanzibar in Newark and The World in NYC. I compared every club to The Garage and they always come up lacking. When The Garage closed it was the end of an era.
i agree with how you differentiate the loft and the garage, that's kind of how i felt too. i personally preferred the loft, but when the garage first opened (before the main room was ready and before it had its official name - it was still the "king st garage" with the white membership card with the line drawing building on the front), i had some of my best party nights there too. they were both legendary party spots. i lived at the garage friday nights, the loft saturday nights.
"Rhythmatic movements in unison with others prolong an act of sensation, with no limits or boundaries. Eternity is past. Wrong is right..." Chantal - The Realm
In Europe people never danced as you describe. Especially dancing 'in unison' is something that always really resonated with me. Its about losing your ego in the crowd and in the music. Not enlarge it even further IMO.
I love, Love, LOVE that song!!!! Any smart DJ can transform a good party into an Amazing Experience if they play that track!!!
'... the ultimate seduction...' !!!
What an era. The closest I come to experience this through the underground today is with the Melbourne shuffle dance scene. It’s the rave scene. We mainly connect online and if we don’t have a local community we travel to states and come together because of techno and trance, also a bit of house. Different times, different moves, different music. Same passion for music and movement.
Damn, watching the original Shelter on Hubert st close hurts again. I was there on it's last night when we got the news. Roy Ayers was performing.
Guilani wa a menance.
Happy to see a shout out to NASA. I loved the Shelter!
coz jungle is massive
I enjoyed the cross over thst took place from Tunnel to Twilo .....sigh....West 27st circa late 90s ...fun times ❤
5 teflon Dons tracks used in this video. nuff said
I went to hard festival 2021 & the disappointment I saw around me when the majority of the people were not dancing to house music. I moved and did latin dances to the beat. I noticed people were in awe when they saw I can dance to house but feared they would b judge if they tried it themselves. But there's hope cus some gave me props for dancing freely & I told them they can also do the same