Spiking in Smash Ultimate

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @Choctopus
    @Choctopus  5 лет назад +4323

    Who has the best spike?

    • @knightghemphus6174
      @knightghemphus6174 5 лет назад +1031

      Choctopus Little Mac

    • @koolio6351
      @koolio6351 5 лет назад +532

      Doc's D-AIR is underrated IMO

    • @tylerconey5613
      @tylerconey5613 5 лет назад +575

      King k rool’s bair

    • @benk6153
      @benk6153 5 лет назад +250

      Pika. He’s just so cute yet he brings so much despair!

    • @Kratokes
      @Kratokes 5 лет назад +252

      DK fair

  • @youarestinky712
    @youarestinky712 5 лет назад +5370

    Wanna know who has the best spikes. Bowser, that’s who. He has spikes on his shell, his bracelet, his head. Damn bowser is one spiky boi

    • @hisen3.146
      @hisen3.146 5 лет назад +196

      Wrong, Piranha Plant is the winner. Have you seen those teeth? They get points for sharpness over quantity.

    • @domsang422
      @domsang422 5 лет назад +42

      Groudon is also a spiky genderless

    • @j_breezy0325
      @j_breezy0325 5 лет назад +49

      Ridley has entered the chat

    • @reallyspingebillboxpants
      @reallyspingebillboxpants 5 лет назад +65

      And since Bowser is a turtle he most likely has spikes on his d___

    • @GameMasterWLC
      @GameMasterWLC 5 лет назад +54

      Cloud has the most spikes. If we got the the Polygonal cloud it wouldn't even be a contest.

  • @Luke--
    @Luke-- 5 лет назад +1691

    The total was 25.
    Didn't find this with timestamps, so here it is with rough timestamps:
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    • @chandlerhyde1137
      @chandlerhyde1137 5 лет назад +34

      You should deserve more likes for how long that took

    • @kimson5221
      @kimson5221 5 лет назад +8

      @@chandlerhyde1137 I agree

    • @Q-u-e-u-e
      @Q-u-e-u-e 5 лет назад +7

      Hey we have same pic

    • @kimson5221
      @kimson5221 5 лет назад +7

      @@Q-u-e-u-e hello brethren

    • @roxon4659
      @roxon4659 5 лет назад +2

      Jesus Christ bro

  • @alfox7383
    @alfox7383 5 лет назад +520

    Everyone: *watches the art of spiking*
    Me: *watches the art of being spiked*

    • @alexslash9690
      @alexslash9690 5 лет назад +5

      R.I.P

    • @jackpoling5981
      @jackpoling5981 4 года назад +2

      Al Fox with me I just kill myself when trying to meteor smash. Seriously Link I play legend of Zelda all the time why do you do this to me. I’m fine with Links down Ariel except for when it kills me. Nintendo needs to increase that moves hit box if they are gonna make Link die while doing it.

    • @razzdazzjazz
      @razzdazzjazz 4 года назад

      @@jackpoling5981 git gud

    • @Ajthegamer-nh7bt
      @Ajthegamer-nh7bt 4 года назад

      That’s not meeee

    • @capybaragaming6604
      @capybaragaming6604 3 года назад

      Me:Laughs in noob

  • @FNaFHP
    @FNaFHP 4 года назад +1196

    Luigi’s down taunt is most satisfying when you get the timing right.

  • @buddafingaz2743
    @buddafingaz2743 5 лет назад +702

    *legend has it mega man is still trying to spike Luigi to this day*

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +58

      I just... he wouldn’t die.

    • @fishy9092
      @fishy9092 5 лет назад +17

      Luigi's too powerful for spiking. after all, he IS the god of taunt-spiking!

    • @alextoonz166
      @alextoonz166 5 лет назад +1

      @SUPAH STAЯ *SAVAGE*

    • @hurt4322
      @hurt4322 5 лет назад +5

      @@fishy9092 Legend has it that Luigi's down taunt killed his bro. Since then, he sworn to never use it again...

    • @fishy9092
      @fishy9092 5 лет назад +3

      CB7ROCS S must be why they took taunting out of online

  • @TheLoginatoR
    @TheLoginatoR 5 лет назад +850

    You should have seen the first time I timed luigi's down taunt right

    • @Staples318
      @Staples318 5 лет назад +45

      Awesome Luigi hey buddy your profile pic is my old artwork

    • @TheLoginatoR
      @TheLoginatoR 5 лет назад +44

      Oh lol I just Googled star luigi and chose this one, cool that I found the maker

    • @Staples318
      @Staples318 5 лет назад +9

      @@TheLoginatoR lmao

    • @zachwithanH07
      @zachwithanH07 5 лет назад +8

      No one seems to remember that Luigi has a dair that spikes (maybe it’s because it’s not the best spike)

    • @ethancoho8801
      @ethancoho8801 5 лет назад +4

      @@zachwithanH07 I didn't even know he had a spike until I pulled it off by mistake, it made me love Luigi even more now that I can somewhat consistently pull it off

  • @Bloodragon03
    @Bloodragon03 5 лет назад +183

    Y'all can't be serious, obviously the best spike in the game is... Luigi's down taunt. That is what i call an S tier spike. It's hard to pull off, it's devastating, it's humiliating, it's hands down the best spike.

    • @CEO_of_gaming
      @CEO_of_gaming 5 лет назад +31

      Bloodragon03 because it’s so good it’s banned online

    • @Josh_ua
      @Josh_ua 5 лет назад +24

      Luigi down taunt spike usually combos into the opponent running off stage with their remaining stocks.

    • @Bloodragon03
      @Bloodragon03 5 лет назад +5

      @@CEO_of_gaming That's probably the main reason taunting is banned

    • @cosmicsubliminals7064
      @cosmicsubliminals7064 5 лет назад

      There is literally no better feeling in the world then kicking your opponent into oblivion

    • @vinh2732
      @vinh2732 5 лет назад

      It is a taunt that how humiliating it is

  • @willpez8811
    @willpez8811 4 года назад +552

    “Donkey Kong has a good recovery” yeah I’ll remember that one for my joke book

    • @toadboy4
      @toadboy4 4 года назад +31

      He’s pretty good horizontally

    • @willpez8811
      @willpez8811 4 года назад +4

      true I maim him now tho so it’s easier

    • @kara6020
      @kara6020 4 года назад +17

      Easy to punish, but if you get the spike you can get back easily

    • @richardvargas9886
      @richardvargas9886 3 года назад +3

      Yeah....

    • @MetaKnightX6
      @MetaKnightX6 3 года назад +7

      He got very good horizontal recovery but trash vertical recovery

  • @samloeffler4174
    @samloeffler4174 5 лет назад +817

    3:56
    “DK has a pretty good recovery”
    Me: Spits out drink

    • @shinysamurott613
      @shinysamurott613 5 лет назад +67

      Could be worse. Could be Little Mac

    • @KR_Kosmik
      @KR_Kosmik 5 лет назад +56

      No
      Little mac's up b goes higher
      Dk has higher jumps and more horizontal though

    • @johnjohnson392
      @johnjohnson392 5 лет назад +3

      @@KR_Kosmik and wall jumping is a thing

    • @ThedDomingo16
      @ThedDomingo16 5 лет назад

      His recovery is good if you’re using it to get back on stage horizontally

    • @charKT-7461
      @charKT-7461 4 года назад +1

      It's good compared to Little Mac's

  • @mulcheraska
    @mulcheraska 5 лет назад +365

    R.O.B flexes when you spike which automatically makes him the best spike character

    • @skeletorthebest7204
      @skeletorthebest7204 5 лет назад +17

      Not like he needs it to recover anyway, he can fly under the stage if he wants to

    • @mulcheraska
      @mulcheraska 5 лет назад +2

      @The Caydenator Yes but R.O.B is a robot, robots make everything better

    • @PJNyte
      @PJNyte 5 лет назад +2

      prized Super epic when he lands that down air though

    • @nibelungvalesty
      @nibelungvalesty 5 лет назад

      right, he lets you know that hes the ..... well man.

    • @cyclecoma7916
      @cyclecoma7916 5 лет назад +2

      Incineroar literally flexes after everything he does. Doesn't that make him the best character?

  • @kofatsu
    @kofatsu 5 лет назад +594

    Why recover when you can yeet yourself off the stage with the opponent? *Coughs in bowser*

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +56

      YEET

    • @guillermogaldoncantos2792
      @guillermogaldoncantos2792 5 лет назад +15

      Jajajaj as a bowser main That was funny to read but also you can spike your oponent without killing yourself its pretty Hard btw

    • @birdbiddness
      @birdbiddness 5 лет назад +6

      Tasty coughs in mii brawler

    • @GoldLink364
      @GoldLink364 5 лет назад +5

      Heavily coughs in ridley side b

    • @nekorubu
      @nekorubu 5 лет назад

      @@GoldLink364 yes

  • @zetrayo4610
    @zetrayo4610 4 года назад +330

    "Then there's wolf , who can revover and spike at the same time ."
    LAUGHS IN BYLETH

  • @mem3b0i_
    @mem3b0i_ 5 лет назад +392

    Step 1: mario
    Step 2: get ur opponent to about 30/40% ish.
    Step 3: Forward throw/backwards throw
    Step 4: forward aerial
    Done

    • @Flow_425
      @Flow_425 5 лет назад +38

      Step 5: do literally nothing else all game

    • @splash6439
      @splash6439 5 лет назад +11

      *Laughs in Villager*

    • @someoneimportant2517
      @someoneimportant2517 5 лет назад +9

      You forgot a step. You literally only throw people off stage and farm for the spike. Just farm for it.

    • @t0fuu957
      @t0fuu957 5 лет назад +5

      @@someoneimportant2517 sometimes if someone is really bad you can get a stock at 20

    • @ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq
      @ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq 5 лет назад

      my man he gets it!

  • @chicken1448
    @chicken1448 5 лет назад +1438

    *”Donkey Kong has a pretty good recovery”*
    uhhhh
    *”Mega Man has a decent recovery”*
    ok buddy

  • @jasonmurphy4338
    @jasonmurphy4338 5 лет назад +267

    "Donkey Kong has a pretty good recovery."
    -...

    • @jenny20vg1
      @jenny20vg1 4 года назад +11

      And other jokes you can tell yourself

    • @tusktutor4408
      @tusktutor4408 4 года назад +4

      Are you sure about that

  • @KingFezch
    @KingFezch 5 лет назад +537

    24 Spikes, 10 Meteor Smashes Said during the vid

    • @blakemclean7867
      @blakemclean7867 5 лет назад +20

      Variations of the word spike (spike, spikes, spiking): 26
      Meteor Smashes: 11
      I'm sorry good sir but you miscounted.

    • @lin1992
      @lin1992 5 лет назад +5

      Blake McLean-Andruchow but did you count the moonwalking bear?

    • @blakemclean7867
      @blakemclean7867 5 лет назад +7

      @@lin1992 Edit: Completed Count-
      Variations of Spike: 26
      Meteor Smash: 11
      Passes : 13
      Moonwalking Man in Bear Suit: 1
      (I'm still chuckling. You deserve a fucking medal.)

    • @DarkAngel-jo8ix
      @DarkAngel-jo8ix 5 лет назад

      lin1992 wow that’s an A D V A N C E D reference

    • @TheCeoOfSand
      @TheCeoOfSand 5 лет назад

      Fan-fiction Sans profile picture
      No no it's fine it fine it's not fine its bad please fix it

  • @The_Moss-Man
    @The_Moss-Man 5 лет назад +214

    It’s a shame Yoshi didn’t make it into this video considering he gives himself a concussion with every spike.

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +23

      Yoshi does have a beast spike.

    • @wpower7435
      @wpower7435 5 лет назад +2

      @@Choctopus His massive head slams you down!

    • @losermonkey666
      @losermonkey666 5 лет назад

      @@Choctopus I KNEW IT!!! I WAS GOING TO TYPE THAT!!!!!

  • @Nokyyyyy
    @Nokyyyyy 4 года назад +547

    Top 3 respect spikes :
    3 : spiking with byleth (up b)
    2 : spiking with luigi down taunt
    1: spiking with little mac

    • @charlesmay8998
      @charlesmay8998 4 года назад +47

      Macs spike is suicide it's a homie stock f for all the fallen macs

    • @Bleepbleepblorbus
      @Bleepbleepblorbus 4 года назад +1

      @@charlesmay8998
      __
      /=

    • @Bleepbleepblorbus
      @Bleepbleepblorbus 4 года назад +1

      @@charlesmay8998 F tombstone

    • @miloslye8464
      @miloslye8464 4 года назад +13

      i'm mad. luigi got a nerf online since he can't do that spike!

    • @Nokyyyyy
      @Nokyyyyy 4 года назад +3

      @@miloslye8464 yes ;-;

  • @casualwoomy
    @casualwoomy 3 года назад +77

    Nintendo: they’re called a meteor sma-
    Community: SPIKE

  • @ShadowNite1105
    @ShadowNite1105 5 лет назад +205

    In my opinion, my favorite spike to land is what I call "Sacrificing to the Banana Gods." For those who don't know (almost everyone here) it's when you land DK's aerial Down-B and then follow up with either a F-air or D-air, getting a double dunk without using the same move to do so. K. Rool can do this too, but for him it's called the "Cream of the Croc"

    • @Chestaa_
      @Chestaa_ 5 лет назад +1

      Nice puns

    • @ShadowNite1105
      @ShadowNite1105 5 лет назад +1

      @@Chestaa_ thank you, the K. Rool one was literally thought of the moment I typed up that comment

    • @astrzm
      @astrzm 5 лет назад +1

      What would Lucas dair into bair be called? PK Hellspike?

    • @ShadowNite1105
      @ShadowNite1105 5 лет назад +1

      @@astrzm PSpIke

    • @eliteboi2615
      @eliteboi2615 5 лет назад +7

      "Cream of the Croc"? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @jaredjohnson3943
    @jaredjohnson3943 5 лет назад +604

    Choctopus you forgot lag spikes

    • @kaela-kae
      @kaela-kae 5 лет назад +1

      FCG Fresh Well Fountain of Dreams would be the only one on that list

    • @aethar2750
      @aethar2750 5 лет назад

      FCG Fresh FUCK I ALMOST SPIT OUT MY DRINK

    • @trydodis690
      @trydodis690 5 лет назад +1

      SuperDanielNorman it’s a joke. He’s taking the term ‘lag spike’, the thing you experience with a bad internet connection and trying to make it seem that in spiking there is such a thing.

    • @nah4467
      @nah4467 5 лет назад +1

      He also forgot one more unique spike Ike's Aether near the edge.

  • @chickenfrog2697
    @chickenfrog2697 5 лет назад +150

    When you have a video about spiking and didn’t bring up the most disrespectful hype building spike of all time. Luigi down taunt

    • @Zekken_The_Lodestar
      @Zekken_The_Lodestar 5 лет назад

      Honestly Why?

    • @AmGJaG829
      @AmGJaG829 5 лет назад

      The hardest spike to land is little mac

    • @krustygraze189
      @krustygraze189 5 лет назад +1

      Taunts are disabled online, so the Spike of Disrespect is unable to be used in that setting. That's probably why he didn't bring it up in this video

  • @heartfelt_hero
    @heartfelt_hero 4 года назад +93

    Ahhhh, I remember my first spike, before I even knew what a spike was. I was playing as Bayonette and I walked over to the edge of the stage as my enemy tried to recover, and I down smashed without thinking. Next thing I know, a shadow heel comes out of nowhere and stomps the enemy into the abyss as they try to return to the stage. It was so unexpected, but so beautiful.

  • @JocaPeltPT-BR
    @JocaPeltPT-BR 5 лет назад +316

    Spikes:
    Mario: *F O R W A R D A E R I A L*
    Captain Falcon: Stomp
    Ganondorf: Kicking As Hard As Possible
    Mewtwo *B O O P*

  • @eevee93
    @eevee93 5 лет назад +532

    Luigi literally has the hardest but best spike in the game with his down taunt

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 5 лет назад +19

      lmg_PICHUplus I was searching for this comment. Thankyou 🙏

    • @eevee93
      @eevee93 5 лет назад +5

      @@SpagEddie8113 Np, but yes it is the best spike

    • @slippyy6742
      @slippyy6742 5 лет назад +1

      lmg_PICHUplus agreed

    • @chibiyeet316
      @chibiyeet316 5 лет назад +15

      I think the hardest spike is Macs D-Air.

    • @Tekjayy
      @Tekjayy 5 лет назад +17

      Wtf a respectable argument on the internet?

  • @heraboss5533
    @heraboss5533 5 лет назад +875

    Imagine being able to recover after spiking someone.
    This comment was made by the Ridley gang

    • @kurodoesdumbshit
      @kurodoesdumbshit 5 лет назад +62

      Imagine not having to recover when spiking.
      This Comment was made by the PikaPichu Gang

    • @n.willy4864
      @n.willy4864 5 лет назад +11

      Kuro Does Dumb Shit offstage thunder spike is so satisfying to hit

    • @christiancasaverdepertica1802
      @christiancasaverdepertica1802 5 лет назад +102

      Imagine not being able to recover or spike
      This comment was made by the Little Mac gang

    • @n.willy4864
      @n.willy4864 5 лет назад

      Dustfinger4268 oof

    • @tirtan181
      @tirtan181 5 лет назад +5

      Don't forget the sheik Gan.. Oh wait shes not in ultimate

  • @Megidramon
    @Megidramon 4 года назад +493

    A wise man named Alpharad once said.............."Forward *[AERIAL]*"

  • @samuelstapelman8077
    @samuelstapelman8077 5 лет назад +861

    When you watch a video about spiking and it doesn’t have captain falcon in it
    UNCULTURED S W I N E

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +38

      He’ll be getting his own video soon 😅

    • @bbenson3ify
      @bbenson3ify 5 лет назад +1

      Or yoshi 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Mr.G_717
      @Mr.G_717 5 лет назад +6

      What are you lookin at ya hockey puck?!

    • @samirahmed8210
      @samirahmed8210 5 лет назад

      Thank you 🙌🏾

    • @PrinceTrexus
      @PrinceTrexus 5 лет назад +1

      Ganondorf has the same spike as Captain Falcon and his is much stronger

  • @maxcrss2845
    @maxcrss2845 5 лет назад +45

    Zelda comes in with a nasty sweet spot spike that crits at around 40 and gimps otherwise.

  • @TweetTweet17
    @TweetTweet17 5 лет назад +301

    I’ve been trying out Mario lately for his smash and because I wanna main him.
    It’s going well and the spikes are 👌

    • @waqaspathan3337
      @waqaspathan3337 5 лет назад

      mario has a really easy and awesome spike

    • @flashswagton
      @flashswagton 5 лет назад +1

      I main link

    • @lukeypo0key95
      @lukeypo0key95 5 лет назад

      I main Mario currently but am switching to king k rool because his spikes are better

    • @proudmariomain4342
      @proudmariomain4342 5 лет назад +2

      Mario is pretty easy to do combos and spikes with so good choice 👌

    • @helloimbored2365
      @helloimbored2365 5 лет назад

      Awesome here is a combo. Up throw down air into forward air

  • @aidan8146
    @aidan8146 5 лет назад +174

    Pichu’s Spike has an unfair hitbox, even when you’re ontop of Pichu, if he “connects” that spike, u gonna get sent to hell.

    • @menkirdennis6686
      @menkirdennis6686 4 года назад +1

      Aidan lmao 😂 that’s funny 😁

    • @specmoment3592
      @specmoment3592 4 года назад +3

      Isnt the entire point of down b to catch opponents who are above you

    • @Text.__.
      @Text.__. 4 года назад +2

      @@specmoment3592 I think ment down b

    • @legendzgamer3222
      @legendzgamer3222 4 года назад +2

      Same thing with Ridley's d-air and K. Rool's u-air. I've had times where the opponent was below me, and K. Rool's u-air still connected and killed. It's stupid. And then we have Link's d-air, which can spike twice if you know what you are doing...

    • @mrdxb1154
      @mrdxb1154 4 года назад +1

      Same with pikachu

  • @liamj9261
    @liamj9261 5 лет назад +390

    Did this man just say donkey Kong has a good recovery

    • @wardedthorn6523
      @wardedthorn6523 5 лет назад +34

      Horizontally, his recovery is pretty decent. It is hard to punish and allows moderate traversal.

    • @klutz_4348
      @klutz_4348 5 лет назад +25

      @@wardedthorn6523 but 7 times out of ten you gonna die because it takes you far enough horizontally but then you go into freefall right under the ledge. And if you recover high, which is usually what will happen with DK, you will get hard punished.

    • @tomcanseeyou9170
      @tomcanseeyou9170 5 лет назад +4

      JHam you seem like a ness who spams pk Fire. Just a thought.....

    • @klutz_4348
      @klutz_4348 5 лет назад +8

      @@tomcanseeyou9170 i dont main ness. I main Yoshi. What? Is that something you hear Ness players say specifically?Im just saying what happens to me a lot if I happen to use DK. Recover high? Its hard to snap to the ledge and usually get hard punished. Recover under ledge? Its usually pretty hard to make it, unless you are very, VERY close to the underside of the ledge.

    • @tomcanseeyou9170
      @tomcanseeyou9170 5 лет назад

      @@klutz_4348 how long did you take to write this?

  • @hcatto9800
    @hcatto9800 5 лет назад +209

    Luigi’s taunt is da most op spike

    • @donutboi467
      @donutboi467 5 лет назад +4

      I appreciate and like this post. I am commenting because liking the post would make it 70 likes.

  • @greatpotterland
    @greatpotterland 5 лет назад +345

    You can't spell spike without Ike

  • @KtotheJ524
    @KtotheJ524 5 лет назад +192

    Sonic main: *Spikes* Oh my god, I did it! I really di- *dies with opponent*

    • @Shamoose
      @Shamoose 5 лет назад +5

      I honestly have a hard time against sonic mains

    • @KtotheJ524
      @KtotheJ524 5 лет назад +11

      @@Shamoose yea Sonic is the type of fighter if you dont know how to use him he sucks. But if mastered the opponents are so annoyed by him instantly.

    • @specmoment3592
      @specmoment3592 4 года назад +6

      @@KtotheJ524
      Can't that be said for every character
      Except mr game and watch

    • @KtotheJ524
      @KtotheJ524 4 года назад +2

      @@specmoment3592 uh no. There are fighters that just instantly go straight down when using their or down air or their spike attack. For example: Sonic, Ridley, Greninja, Banjo and Kazooie, toon link.
      Then we have fighters who dont go straight down using down air: Mario, Dr.Mario, Luigi, Megaman, Pit, Pikachu, Hero, Cloud (So many characters)

    • @KtotheJ524
      @KtotheJ524 4 года назад +2

      Double _896 i never seen a ridley recover from failing to spike. same goes for banjo and toon link down air.

  • @Koogai
    @Koogai 5 лет назад +53

    I feel like the weight of the spike is what makes it rewarding. It's similar to clenching your muscles trying to jump a large gap in a platformer, sure it doesn't change the result, but as a player you just get more satisfaction. Ending a game on a BM opponent with a spike for example, the feeling of landing something with Diddy or Lucas isn't the same as plowing them through hell with Ganon dair. You really get that extra sent them a message feel.

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +7

      For sure. Ganon dair is probably one of the most brutal, haha.

    • @Ryuzekia
      @Ryuzekia 5 лет назад +3

      As a ganon main, can definitely say his dair's impact is satisfying, also there is his down b, which sounds like suicide. Jumping off and heading straight into the blast zone, but the impact if you land it. Good god. Also bless the spike sound effect in ultimate.

    • @Sharpteeth32
      @Sharpteeth32 5 лет назад +1

      Wizard's Foot spike on your opponent's last stock is such a Godlike feeling.

  • @Bio3777_
    @Bio3777_ 5 лет назад +147

    Is no one gonna notice the timing of the trumpet and the spike at 6:36 ?

  • @TheWatermelonLion
    @TheWatermelonLion 5 лет назад +279

    What happened to the most disrespectful thing in smash to do?
    *Luigi down taunt has entered the chat* y'all called me?

  • @masteroogway9487
    @masteroogway9487 4 года назад +60

    Mario when your off stage
    Mario: You've mama-ed your last a-mia

  • @gdglokk3886
    @gdglokk3886 5 лет назад +58

    3:09 Here are some tips for learning to spike or improving your spike game **Monopoly: Cheaters Edition ad starts**
    Edit: NOW IT’S A TOILET TROUBLE: FLUSHDOWN AD😂👌

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +3

      LMFAOOOO

    • @gdglokk3886
      @gdglokk3886 5 лет назад

      Choctopus oh hi

    • @huntersarerarenow6742
      @huntersarerarenow6742 5 лет назад

      I saw this comment as it got to 3:09

    • @gdglokk3886
      @gdglokk3886 5 лет назад

      Choctopus hey when you were explaining the wind-up spikes did Ridley Up-B angled down come to mind?

  • @jamesesterline
    @jamesesterline 5 лет назад +384

    Do not use Piranha Plant in all-star mode. You'll lose your save data. I got it from a comment on another video. Spread the word.

    • @andennn
      @andennn 5 лет назад +1

      James Esterline ok

    • @davidarruda8400
      @davidarruda8400 5 лет назад +13

      copied the link, and now im going to post it on every smash vid.
      EDIT: I just made a new user to test this and I didnt lose any save data so idk.

    • @joeb3702
      @joeb3702 5 лет назад +38

      @@davidarruda8400 it's only a chance, but it's happened to a lot of people

    • @lovincoke
      @lovincoke 5 лет назад +9

      @@davidarruda8400 it only happens on digital version

    • @Pokemon_Doge
      @Pokemon_Doge 5 лет назад +1

      Funny thing was that's like on of the first things I did when I got him thankfully it didn't happen to me

  • @QuestionableLogic_
    @QuestionableLogic_ 5 лет назад +175

    I still think that Pac-Man's Hydrant should spike

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +31

      Agreed.

    • @oboss7740
      @oboss7740 5 лет назад +2

      Yes

    • @BolleBoi
      @BolleBoi 5 лет назад +8

      Would be so broken

    • @TheLenesco
      @TheLenesco 5 лет назад +1

      @@BolleBoi na would kinda act like mega man's fist

    • @bandanadoo3684
      @bandanadoo3684 5 лет назад +5

      I think his down air should Spike too, weirdly it sends the opponent upwards

  • @louialigon6747
    @louialigon6747 4 года назад +19

    Luigi’s down air can be as satisfying as his down taunt when you time it right for the first time :))

  • @NinjaGamer820
    @NinjaGamer820 5 лет назад +29

    1:06 how do you literally forget Falcon and his iconic stomp. Like _h o w._

    • @matterpie
      @matterpie 5 лет назад

      I don't think he "forgot" per se.
      He was just listing quick examples.
      It'd be a major time-waste if he said every d-air spike

    • @NinjaGamer820
      @NinjaGamer820 5 лет назад +9

      @@matterpie the falcon stomp can't just be a honourable mention compared to k-rool and doc. Falcon stomp is the O.G. stomp. The Falcon stomp is being disrespected.

    • @kevinfeng6700
      @kevinfeng6700 5 лет назад +1

      This ain’t Melee
      Falcon gey

  • @AwesomePolarBear
    @AwesomePolarBear 5 лет назад +35

    The perfect sync up at 6:33. Big good!

  • @nico-xc2ob
    @nico-xc2ob 5 лет назад +103

    "Wolf's spike lets him recover at the same time" i havent side b ONCE without dying wdym

    • @YourCrazyDolphin
      @YourCrazyDolphin 5 лет назад +16

      It's when you use it AS a recover. It covers more distance than up-B and keeps his momentum straight ahead afterward. If you go off stage with it, guaranteed dead.

    • @PacoPilinFrio
      @PacoPilinFrio 4 года назад +1

      I totally agreed with that. In fact, I literally died at least one time in each game I played with wolf

    • @taejoonkim5122
      @taejoonkim5122 4 года назад +5

      I interpreted that statement a little differently actually. When wolf recovers using side-B, the player sometimes opt to not snap onto the ledge in order to keep the spike hitbox active. This means that when wolf recovers using side B, he has the chance of spiking any opponent attempting to edge guard. Keep in mind that wolf's side-B is pretty fast.

    • @thecertifieddoctor
      @thecertifieddoctor 4 года назад +1

      As a toxic player one said to me *"bro you just need to git gud"*

    • @Daemon105
      @Daemon105 4 года назад +1

      Normal wolf: NeUtRaL sPeCiAl
      Me an intellectual: SiDe SpEcIaL oFf StAgE

  • @carsonbrooks1326
    @carsonbrooks1326 4 года назад +22

    6:15 you made me feel so nostalgic with that music. I miss you bomb omb fortress.

    • @memeboi6942
      @memeboi6942 4 года назад

      Its bomb-omb battlefield.

  • @wd2868
    @wd2868 5 лет назад +86

    Came for the spike tips. Stayed for the hidden Mario RPG songs.

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +4

      You are appreciated.

    • @Mr.G_717
      @Mr.G_717 5 лет назад

      Monstro town ❤❤

    • @HedgehogSpeedSonic
      @HedgehogSpeedSonic 5 лет назад

      My boy. You and me both. I went on a 20+ minute nostolgia trip looking up the ost.

    • @sh7eug
      @sh7eug 5 лет назад

      Agreed. I love that game, and the music. At least it got some representation with a Geno and Mallow spirits. Although, it could be argued that it's had representation since Melee, with Peach's smash which could be a frying pan.

  • @sheevpalpatineasgirl5600
    @sheevpalpatineasgirl5600 5 лет назад +119

    I thought that said the art of spanking and i was very confused

  • @mago474
    @mago474 5 лет назад +425

    While DK is the king of spikes, I think Mario's F-air is the best one in the game.

  • @papillon2066
    @papillon2066 5 лет назад +169

    “First step is to learn to recover”
    *laughs in joker*

  • @Luwingus1
    @Luwingus1 5 лет назад +74

    6:10 Should have added the Space Jam music instead of the Super Mario 64 music.
    "Come on and *Slam* and welcome to the *Jam* "

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +11

      Missed opportunity but also trying to monetize this video.

    • @Luwingus1
      @Luwingus1 5 лет назад

      I guess that makes sense

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer 5 лет назад +1

      JAaM!

    • @jjellok1ng
      @jjellok1ng 5 лет назад

      so much more enjoyable. i actually did open the song on another tab, thanks :)

    • @Thefifthpacmanghoststinky
      @Thefifthpacmanghoststinky 5 лет назад

      Choctopus so you didn’t want to get copy spiked? *knee slap*

  • @10FIFALEGEND7
    @10FIFALEGEND7 5 лет назад +127

    Zero Suit Samus has the most stylish spike in the game!!!

    • @iluvazrael
      @iluvazrael 5 лет назад +16

      PersonaJules19 I think Luigi has more style with his down taunt imo

    • @fishy9092
      @fishy9092 5 лет назад +2

      @@iluvazrael sir, i completely agree with you.

    • @viktorkartalov1102
      @viktorkartalov1102 5 лет назад +1

      @@zanedarkheart2148 what the hell are you on about LMAO

    • @JoeMama-mv4tt
      @JoeMama-mv4tt 5 лет назад +1

      @@zanedarkheart2148 you can still spike with down b

    • @LeoN-kp5dc
      @LeoN-kp5dc 5 лет назад

      @@JoeMama-mv4tt haha i read this and then turned to my friend, started a game and spiked him

  • @Robot3k
    @Robot3k 5 лет назад +25

    The truest form of disrespect is spiking with ridley's dair and recovering succesfully

    • @Gamer-qw3ll
      @Gamer-qw3ll 4 года назад

      I mean you're not wrong

    • @squintthread7533
      @squintthread7533 4 года назад

      Greninjas dair smaller hitbox and goes down faster

  • @stitchowi
    @stitchowi 4 года назад +31

    2:26 I THOUGHT SHE GOT SMACKED

  • @TheJoker10123
    @TheJoker10123 5 лет назад +38

    I main link and something about that sharp glowing master sword sending people to the blast zone is just so satisfying

    • @fuji7848
      @fuji7848 5 лет назад

      Yea I see u

    • @justblaze1656
      @justblaze1656 5 лет назад +2

      Link mains spam the hell outta that

    • @znerd3664
      @znerd3664 5 лет назад

      Its so much fun to get them with the down air just before it fully spikes and watch them try to recover through the spike and just keep driving the sword into their heads

  • @cammy649
    @cammy649 5 лет назад +46

    Yoshi main here, good spike a I gotta say

    • @jacobl1477
      @jacobl1477 5 лет назад

      Thank u thought no thought that

  • @Luigi-gz1or
    @Luigi-gz1or 5 лет назад +41

    I got a mincraft ad and it was the best 30 seconds of my life

  • @ryanchakrabarty757
    @ryanchakrabarty757 5 лет назад +24

    "DK has a good recovery,"
    I use him and go for 1 spike and just die.

    • @tripbennett6467
      @tripbennett6467 4 года назад +4

      Then your bad

    • @festivepotato3611
      @festivepotato3611 4 года назад +4

      @@tripbennett6467 you're*

    • @clarke762
      @clarke762 3 года назад +1

      @@festivepotato3611 name fits then.

    • @festivepotato3611
      @festivepotato3611 3 года назад

      @@clarke762 It does! And I should probably change my name to "That guy" now huh to keep the chain going

  • @Technicallyaddicted
    @Technicallyaddicted 5 лет назад +49

    You forgot link. His down air is 100% pain

    • @javiersoto6523
      @javiersoto6523 5 лет назад +15

      Its risky and really hard to do

    • @YourCrazyDolphin
      @YourCrazyDolphin 5 лет назад +2

      @@javiersoto6523 If you miss the spike box, it actually helps link recover though, while still gimping the opponent.

    • @vainbrawler7582
      @vainbrawler7582 5 лет назад +1

      @@javiersoto6523 super satisfying tho... one can nut by pulling it off

    • @BoBIzzaro13
      @BoBIzzaro13 5 лет назад +1

      @@javiersoto6523 barely risky, not a ton of end lag. And it's oppressive as if it even touches you a little you're dead. People aren't seeing how OP link is

    • @zeyanhtet9040
      @zeyanhtet9040 4 года назад

      Unless you miss

  • @GoodStarfish
    @GoodStarfish 5 лет назад +15

    I've been waiting for this one. Some spikes are quick and dirty, and some are slimy and satisfying

  • @levicarey6864
    @levicarey6864 5 лет назад +17

    “Donkey Kong has a pretty good recovery”

  • @nopethanks9305
    @nopethanks9305 5 лет назад +30

    Drinking game:
    Take a shot every time he says spike

  • @lilasian3772
    @lilasian3772 5 лет назад +26

    The best Spike is King K rool because How OP his recovery is

    • @thecatcher3583
      @thecatcher3583 5 лет назад

      How about inkling

    • @1Aquacool1
      @1Aquacool1 5 лет назад

      Best spike is either Joker's Arsene Dair, or Ivysaur's Dair. Arsene is bonkers, and Ivysaur just carries around Death Star sized hurtboxes for some reason.

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom 5 лет назад +80

    Is that a forward aerial I see

    • @frostburning
      @frostburning 5 лет назад +7

      Chara Dreemurr - Christopher Moon, Forward Aerials, Backward Aerial, Downward Aerials and Alpharad merch.

    • @willdg8108
      @willdg8108 5 лет назад +4

      FORWARD ARIAL

    • @timon4339
      @timon4339 5 лет назад

      I swear i saw u on a danny d. vid

    • @mikeybones5632
      @mikeybones5632 5 лет назад +5

      I'm not goi.... FORWARD AERIAL

    • @Xeconis
      @Xeconis 5 лет назад +4

      I SEE YOUR A MAN/WOMAN OF CULTURE

  • @PokemonPat26
    @PokemonPat26 5 лет назад +93

    Cardi b can spike...your drink 🤠🤠🤠

  • @jjef8706
    @jjef8706 4 года назад +16

    3:57 are we thinking of the same dk

  • @skidoot4953
    @skidoot4953 5 лет назад +57

    I lost count about 2 minutes into the video. Sorry.

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад +3

      It was too many.

    • @defro8367
      @defro8367 5 лет назад +2

      @@Choctopus you've said variations of "spike" a total of 26 times in the video. I double checked.
      You've also said variations of "meteor smash" 6 times.
      And you say "dunking" once.

    • @flashswagton
      @flashswagton 5 лет назад

      Same

    • @skidoot4953
      @skidoot4953 5 лет назад

      Sanford Chu Good job!

  • @Silverrose969
    @Silverrose969 5 лет назад +12

    Now I can’t stop spiking, thanks Choctopus!

  • @squidy7771
    @squidy7771 5 лет назад +27

    Pirahna's spike is super fast and fun... also he's the first character I managed to spike with, so I may be biased. Great video by the way! I enjoyed it! Be sure to look for my comment that says "I was here since 25k" when you get super popular.

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад

      Mental note made! Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed it.

    • @revengeacademy
      @revengeacademy 5 лет назад

      Does anyone realize piranha plant is developed specifically with beginner players in mind

    • @tevonjames6668
      @tevonjames6668 5 лет назад

      @@revengeacademy That actually explains why he's so easy to use. but the utility of his special moves is trickier than most of the characters. I guess they wanted to make his smash attacks easier, but is specials harder, thus giving a beginner the task of expanding their attack strategy, while having a reliable moveset in any scenario?

    • @revengeacademy
      @revengeacademy 5 лет назад

      Tevon James ~ the special moves require a little bit more _skill_ to utilize, but using them effectively is satisfying to the extent that it will have any player thinking “I wonder if other characters have special moves that are as fun as this.”

    • @cartoonpeashooter4703
      @cartoonpeashooter4703 5 лет назад

      Mine was yoshi

  • @krisp1630
    @krisp1630 4 года назад +1

    Well, I only have a spike half the time....but when you hit it...you're looking cool

  • @kaidoakaba_playz7404
    @kaidoakaba_playz7404 5 лет назад +49

    Apharad: No one can take down mario's "Forward Aerial"

    • @Stint.
      @Stint. 5 лет назад +1

      It’s true! ^-^

    • @s5701
      @s5701 4 года назад

      I just air doge I dont care if I die I dont care if I dont win the match because they get NOTHING they LOOSE good *DAY* sir

    • @jaydenschaffer5563
      @jaydenschaffer5563 4 года назад

      No no it’s funny aerial

  • @marsz917
    @marsz917 5 лет назад +48

    1:05 how aren't you gonna mention C.Falcon? wasn't Ganon a echo fighter of CF which means he originally got his D-air from him?
    Anyway great vid!

    • @luigithewise7046
      @luigithewise7046 5 лет назад +10

      Marshon Brooks don’t forget that falcon also spikes with side b and up tilt so he could have been in the section with dedede

    • @MrBones314
      @MrBones314 5 лет назад +3

      I mean he was pretty much an echo in previous games but his moveset for smash attacks changed

    • @swolegolisopod7340
      @swolegolisopod7340 5 лет назад +4

      In melee he had the exact same kit but slower with slightly more damage. In brawl they have him the tech chase side b we know today and added the small hitbox at the end of his up b (the box that doesn't grab). Now with ultimate they changed his smashes, making him for the most part a different character now.

    • @flashswagton
      @flashswagton 5 лет назад +1

      Ganon has a easier and more satisfying dair

    • @trashcaster
      @trashcaster 5 лет назад +2

      Falcon will always be the spike king for styling. Doesn't matter who's playing, when you pick Falcon, it is Smash Law to style on them with either a down-air or a crotch rocket (forward tilt) for the first 2 stocks, and on the last stock, chase them offstage with a side B or a Falcon Punch.

  • @wowiwasadumbass5805
    @wowiwasadumbass5805 5 лет назад +29

    I have a better thumbnail for this
    "The art of ending a man's career"

  • @jacobglatczak6879
    @jacobglatczak6879 4 года назад +1

    Zelda has the BEST spike when the sweet spot is there. The sound effect with the red lighting makes it the most satisfying feeling ever.

  • @Fojabass
    @Fojabass 5 лет назад +21

    I remember getting spiked by a Falco's side-b when I first got Smash Ultimate...
    *i had no clue that it could even spike*

    • @Firefox-Udon
      @Firefox-Udon 5 лет назад +1

      It was like that in Smash 4 lol

    • @MorphRed
      @MorphRed 5 лет назад

      @@Firefox-Udon It meteor smashed (Not spike) since melee

    • @Firefox-Udon
      @Firefox-Udon 5 лет назад

      @@MorphRed I figured that out late lmao. Also, I honestly don't know the difference between meteor smashes and spikes.

    • @MorphRed
      @MorphRed 5 лет назад +2

      @@Firefox-Udon In Melee, meteor smashes could be meteor cancelled (Going in neutral position than pressing jump or doing Up b after 8 frames) while spikes cannot be meteor cancelled, in recent games it's the same thing

    • @dontrabrown8625
      @dontrabrown8625 5 лет назад

      So I see you're a man of culture

  • @kingmeprime
    @kingmeprime 5 лет назад +39

    This felt a little underdeveloped. Although the montage was a wonderful example of various situations spikes can used in... that seemed like all you had. I think if you talked more about what good vs bad setups look like, how you can get outplayed while off stage, or the consequences of being too greedy could really improve your video.

    • @mrsandman500
      @mrsandman500 5 лет назад

      or if you want to use it to edge guard too

  • @lastotter7282
    @lastotter7282 5 лет назад +100

    When you hit that Zelda d-air👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼😫😫😫💦💦💦

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 4 года назад +1

    The OG spikes, Falco’s and Marth’s DAir, are still priceless

  • @lavenderscare4995
    @lavenderscare4995 5 лет назад +12

    I love incineroar's spike, but I've literally never successfully been able to do it...well, still got a lot of practice ahead of me, apparently!

  • @EPICSAWIKI
    @EPICSAWIKI 5 лет назад +43

    No mention of Falco’s?
    That shit is the most satisfying thing ever lol.

    • @podno482
      @podno482 5 лет назад +4

      Dats melee

    • @ekene4886
      @ekene4886 5 лет назад +4

      That ain't falco

    • @compositebow151
      @compositebow151 5 лет назад

      Its better in melee but more satisfying in ultimate

  • @rockoblocko6937
    @rockoblocko6937 5 лет назад +13

    Everybody knows that Luigi’s Dow taunt is the best spike of all!

  • @Riku17000
    @Riku17000 2 года назад +1

    Choc, two years ago you taught me how to spike before I even knew who you are. Thank you lol

  • @KevAlmanzar
    @KevAlmanzar 5 лет назад +17

    Nice vid also found it pretty funny that I was in the video lmao gg

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад

      WERE YOU?!

    • @KevAlmanzar
      @KevAlmanzar 5 лет назад

      Yes I was the cloud named kevin

    • @Choctopus
      @Choctopus  5 лет назад

      Holy shit I’m so sorry I did you like that with Diddy LMFAOOOOOO

    • @KevAlmanzar
      @KevAlmanzar 5 лет назад +4

      All good lol, also didn’t know cloud forward air was a spike thank you

  • @duke8370
    @duke8370 5 лет назад +22

    Fun Drinking Game!
    Take a shot every time he says spike.
    ///WARNING///
    I'm not responsible for any damage caused to you, from you, or related to you.

  • @diverman467
    @diverman467 5 лет назад +33

    I'm legit so bad at spikes and ledge guarding lol pro players make it look effortless

    • @j_breezy0325
      @j_breezy0325 5 лет назад +1

      Ikr me too. But I think it’s because I used characters that down smash fast so if I miss I just fall fast to my death(Ex: Toon Link)

    • @jesusnajera3527
      @jesusnajera3527 5 лет назад

      J_Breezy03 yeah toon link’s down air definitely is a hard one to land

    • @jesusnajera3527
      @jesusnajera3527 5 лет назад +1

      Just practice recovering with your character. A good thing to do is to learn how low you can get below the stage before your up b can’t reach the ledge

    • @meofjack9644
      @meofjack9644 5 лет назад

      I feel you on that I'm trying to practice the first spike is so rewarding but for me i either start the spike to early and miss and they to the ledge or to late to the point we're they can do it to me it's hard to for me to time when there close enough to spike and how high to jump well for me

    • @mw2401
      @mw2401 5 лет назад +1

      pick ivy
      run offstage
      cstick down
      ez money

  • @Egerotti11034
    @Egerotti11034 5 лет назад +1

    My first spike was in brawl,with wolf to a olimar cpu in a lylat stage. I never forget that

  • @yolowebster7193
    @yolowebster7193 5 лет назад +63

    SAY NO TO METEOR SMASHING!. It's like a drug and you know what drugs do to you? It kills you just like if you miss a spike. It's not good for your life 😭😭

    • @djk1288
      @djk1288 5 лет назад

      Yolo Webster *stares confusedly in Kirby main*

  • @asshunnngami
    @asshunnngami 5 лет назад +14

    I think Zelda has the best spike, just because even if it does not sweetspot, it still sends down. Plus the noise is so cool.
    Thanks for the like Choctopus!

    • @Descro382
      @Descro382 5 лет назад

      I wish they would bring back the noise when Ness would hit someone with a charged up bat :(

    • @asshunnngami
      @asshunnngami 5 лет назад +1

      Oh yeah I remember that from melee and 64

  • @centokiVA
    @centokiVA 5 лет назад +13

    Final Tally:
    24 Spikes, 10 Meteor Smashes
    Nice choctopus

  • @jcplays5831
    @jcplays5831 4 года назад +4

    My first spike was in brawl when I mained Ike and got my first spike on my younger brother who was playing Yoshi and spammed egg roll and down b. It was a glorious back throw into a d-air since he didn’t know how to air dodge. My favorite spike was in ultimate when I was using King K. and I got a young link with a back throw and baited him into a back air and got him at 23%!

    • @musicalsystem927
      @musicalsystem927 4 года назад

      My first was also in Brawl. I think it was MK DAir... Not sure. My favorite was Belmont DAir. To quote Danny Devito: Suicide is bada**

  • @nicknackue
    @nicknackue 5 лет назад +7

    For people who are having trouble with short hopping:
    •press both jump buttons at the same time, no matter how long you press them, it‘ll always be a short hop

    • @augustuslegs5148
      @augustuslegs5148 5 лет назад +1

      Kinda difficult for people with a switch pro controller though, with the different layout. You can't reliably press both with one thumb

    • @lunchbox5932
      @lunchbox5932 5 лет назад +3

      NickNack When did this get implemented? Really something I'm gonna have to get used to. Have to learn short hopping asap.

    • @joeysilva8567
      @joeysilva8567 5 лет назад +2

      @@lunchbox5932 2.0.0

    • @humphred4912
      @humphred4912 5 лет назад

      I use joystick to jump help me

    • @joeysilva8567
      @joeysilva8567 5 лет назад

      @@humphred4912 tap jump is bad civilization

  • @MarkulusRift
    @MarkulusRift 5 лет назад +43

    Donkeykong *E X P A N D S* on you, so hes obviously the best

    • @boopmgee
      @boopmgee 5 лет назад +4

      Expand *Dong*

    • @aethar2750
      @aethar2750 5 лет назад +2

      MarkulusRift My *K O N K E Y D O N G* is now solid

    • @MarkulusRift
      @MarkulusRift 5 лет назад +1

      @@aethar2750 *S A M E*

    • @BillyBob-ou4wb
      @BillyBob-ou4wb 5 лет назад +1

      Donkey kong expands with his KONKEY DONG

  • @MrBones314
    @MrBones314 5 лет назад +17

    I’ve been spiking with Samus, Lucas and inkling for a while but link is my main and it’s rlly hard to spike with him because you need to hit his dair at the very tip of his sword in the first 3 frames of the move. I have pulled it off but boy is it hard.
    Great vid though!

  • @Daemon105
    @Daemon105 4 года назад +6

    I think the up-tilt spikes are the most satisfying to land.
    Examples: Samus, Dark Samus and Captain Falcon

  • @JustShova
    @JustShova 5 лет назад +36

    Ivysaur down air

  • @b.sharp.
    @b.sharp. 5 лет назад +8

    Zero Suit's down B has to be my favorite

  • @luci3283
    @luci3283 5 лет назад +14

    I like king k rool back air if you land it its just so satisfying

  • @ahsoka5385
    @ahsoka5385 4 года назад +1

    1:33 Ike and Chrom up B to just do it offstage and fall like a rock on the head of your opponent is really satisfying