Mike, all things relative, the heads must weigh the same total weight. Mass is part of the distance calculation. Shaft flex characteristic is based on 205 grams of headweight. Ping & Pxg use this in their calculations. Their driver headweights measure 206-210. Very important for distance control on various strikes.
Thanks for the video! It may not make sense to low handicap players but I am sure many players including myself had been curious about the result of the comparison like this.
What I would find intriguing would be the Original One 11.5 dialled down to 9 or 10 degs and compared against conventional driver for distance and dispersion.
I tried a 3 wood shaft in my M1 9 deg driver. The ball dropped out of the sky due to lack of spin. Also club head was too light. Accuracy was not any better..You can go too short in driver shaft length.Beware! ! The Mini driver is an interesting club..Great vid again. Thanks.
When I took up golf almost 50 years ago I had a set of irons and a 2 wood which was a little smaller than a driver but larger than a 3 wood, would you class the mini driver as a two wood.
I hit the mini driver today and I was hitting it the exact same distance as my M5 only the mini driver was far better with dispersion. I’m thinking of making the change...
I remember seeing a video of the Cobra tour van building a short driver for Rickie Fowler.They ended up having to add loft and a bunch of head weight to get the desired performance.
Great video. Looks like it indicates your current driver loft is to low. Might consider more loft on your driver to increase launch angle and smash factor.
HI Mike.. Perhaps finely adjusting the club your using off camera may give you better results, instead of just going from standard lie to 2 deg lower in one jump.. Just a thought..thanks.
Regarding the Mini Driver... There's two Mini Driver you can buy, a "11.5" or a "13.5". Both are adjustable +/- 2 degrees. My question is, is adjusting the 13.5 degree mini driver to 11.5 degrees the same exact thing as the 11.5 degree setting in the other?
Would've been a better test if you had the 11.5* Original One lofted down 2* to 9.5*. I actually think the Original One gave you much better consistency, and you would've seen more comparable distance with a lower lofted head.
It would be nice to see dispersion circles on these kinds of comparison tests. What good are consistent velocity/launch/spin numbers if the ball is going erratically offline?
I just dont’t understand why you kept the open face setting with the lower loft after seeing every single shot did what the settings told them to do - low push fades.... I wish you tested the mini driver the way it was designed. It might have destroyed the M6 driver.
Because the swing weight is probably a C6/C7 on that M5 you’re not going to get the same amount of inertia as you would in a driver that’s say a D1/D2. It’s like swinging a catapult with a smaller rock.
@@MichaelNewtonGolf not surprised mate, it needs over 20g adding to it, that's massive. The shaft won't be working properly with such a light head in it, and you won't feel the head in your swing hence your dispersion was not good. And you are a talented golfer.
Michael Newton Golf so what’s the point in comparing what a driver head can do if swing weight isn’t preserved? Shouldn’t things be kept as even as possible?
if you shorten a shaft by an inch, you need to add weight to the head. a three wood head is about 20 grams heavier than a driver head. the little bit more weight helps you feel the head and also make the ball go a little further. please learn some of these super basic things about club construction. www.golf-components.com/swing-weight-chart-woods.html recall that the big bertha fusion weight was 5 grams in the 45.5 shaft and 12 grams in the 44.5 shaft as an example.
The link didn't work for me, but in general you add about 5 gm to the head for every 1/2 inch reduction in shaft length. if you want to fade the shots , put lead tape on the toe side. If you want to draw, put it near the hosel. Increase spin? put it at the back.
Swingweight is just a balance number, it's not that the head is any lighter or anything. What's more "unfair" about this test is that the M6 was 9* while the One was 11.5* after lofting down. They make a 11.5* One that can be lofted down to 9.5* which would've been a much better comparison.
I have one from a couple years ago, the Aeroburner mini 12 degrees. I use it on specific courses. I'm playing one on Saturday that is very tight, and has some holes where you can run out of fairway with the driver. I leave the driver at home and put the mini in the bag. I lose a little distance, but not a whole lot. I make it up on accuaracy...The other thing for me is, I don't seem to have a need for a 3 wood off the deck very often. Sometimes I leave the 3 wood out and carry both a regular driver and mini.
And deeper face than most 3 woods. For me the mini has longer distance and a tighter dispersion vs 3 wood off the tee. Rarely have a need for 3 wood off the deck.
Awesome video. Now let’s see both with the driver shaft! Would be very interesting as well.
I'm thinking the same thing..lol
I agree, lets see Mini in driver shaft
Mike, all things relative, the heads must weigh the same total weight. Mass is part of the distance calculation. Shaft flex characteristic is based on 205 grams of headweight. Ping & Pxg use this in their calculations. Their driver headweights measure 206-210. Very important for distance control on various strikes.
Thanks for the video! It may not make sense to low handicap players but I am sure many players including myself had been curious about the result of the comparison like this.
Great Vid. As a mid handicapper this is what I wanted to see...I think I confirmed my thoughts, bigger 3 wood off the tee, loft is my friend 😁
What I would find intriguing would be the Original One 11.5 dialled down to 9 or 10 degs and compared against conventional driver for distance and dispersion.
I tried a 3 wood shaft in my M1 9 deg driver. The ball dropped out of the sky due to lack of spin. Also club head was too light. Accuracy was not any better..You can go too short in driver shaft length.Beware! ! The Mini driver is an interesting club..Great vid again. Thanks.
When I took up golf almost 50 years ago I had a set of irons and a 2 wood which was a little smaller than a driver but larger than a 3 wood, would you class the mini driver as a two wood.
I hit the mini driver today and I was hitting it the exact same distance as my M5 only the mini driver was far better with dispersion. I’m thinking of making the change...
I remember seeing a video of the Cobra tour van building a short driver for Rickie Fowler.They ended up having to add loft and a bunch of head weight to get the desired performance.
only way to compare really. this test was as if he knew nothing about equipment and of course he does..
Great video. Looks like it indicates your current driver loft is to low. Might consider more loft on your driver to increase launch angle and smash factor.
Accuracy is key, most average golfers would score better with the mini driver, but ego's will rule :)
Thanks for doing this video, it answers questions for those of us who can't do it. Cheers
How much people worry about clubs and shafts and weights, just go play the game and enjoy it peoples!
HI Mike.. Perhaps finely adjusting the club your using off camera may give you better results, instead of just going from standard lie to 2 deg lower in one jump.. Just a thought..thanks.
Regarding the Mini Driver... There's two Mini Driver you can buy, a "11.5" or a "13.5". Both are adjustable +/- 2 degrees. My question is, is adjusting the 13.5 degree mini driver to 11.5 degrees the same exact thing as the 11.5 degree setting in the other?
No if you loft down the 13.5 the face angle will be 2 degrees open compared to the 11.5
Would've been a better test if you had the 11.5* Original One lofted down 2* to 9.5*. I actually think the Original One gave you much better consistency, and you would've seen more comparable distance with a lower lofted head.
Great video again.wonder what's going on my birthday list 🤔🤔🏌🏻🏌🏻
Would be interesting to see the mini driver with the driver shaft ?!
Yes, both with driver shafts please! Also, I'd like to see m6 head with the short shaft, but increased loft, came out to low to be any good.
An OO with a driver shaft will be 12 SW points heavier, like an E5. That'll be like swinging a putter.
Michael,
Followup please with Driver shaft in both.
Thanks.
You said it. Tough to compare unless the swingweights are equalized.
It would be nice to see dispersion circles on these kinds of comparison tests. What good are consistent velocity/launch/spin numbers if the ball is going erratically offline?
As much as I appreciate the Club reviews PLEASE GO GOLF!!! ONLY 5 DAYS LEFT!
It's all in good fun though and for a good cause 👍
Now I'm absolutely curious what kind of numbers you'd get if you could set the mini driver at 9.5 - 10 degrees.
Yes. Let's see driver shaft in both!
Would you recommend this or a g400 stretch for a driver replacement?
Please put a proper 45.75inch driver shaft in the mini driver head! Let's see what happens.
Could be interesting
@@MichaelNewtonGolf just do it! :) And then go play some golf! YT Day is around the corner.
Yes!
Should try teeing up half a ball height for the mini driver, just like the M6, and see how it goes
I just dont’t understand why you kept the open face setting with the lower loft after seeing every single shot did what the settings told them to do - low push fades.... I wish you tested the mini driver the way it was designed. It might have destroyed the M6 driver.
Yes. Please put the M6 in the Mini!
This is video was waiting for
Because the swing weight is probably a C6/C7 on that M5 you’re not going to get the same amount of inertia as you would in a driver that’s say a D1/D2. It’s like swinging a catapult with a smaller rock.
You're the man Mike!!
Yet another great video!
Why the trajectory so low for the M6?
Is the mini fade biased?
Wouldn’t say so
Each sw point is roughly 2g
Being 2 inch shorter that M6 would need a serious amount of weight added to the head to bring it back to a normal sw.
That’s exactly what I felt.....really light
@@MichaelNewtonGolf not surprised mate, it needs over 20g adding to it, that's massive.
The shaft won't be working properly with such a light head in it, and you won't feel the head in your swing hence your dispersion was not good.
And you are a talented golfer.
Michael Newton Golf so what’s the point in comparing what a driver head can do if swing weight isn’t preserved? Shouldn’t things be kept as even as possible?
Such a shame that TM doesn't offer the 11.5° head in Europe. That would be a true "mini driver".
if you shorten a shaft by an inch, you need to add weight to the head. a three wood head is about 20 grams heavier than a driver head. the little bit more weight helps you feel the head and also make the ball go a little further. please learn some of these super basic things about club construction. www.golf-components.com/swing-weight-chart-woods.html recall that the big bertha fusion weight was 5 grams in the 45.5 shaft and 12 grams in the 44.5 shaft as an example.
The link didn't work for me, but in general you add about 5 gm to the head for every 1/2 inch reduction in shaft length. if you want to fade the shots , put lead tape on the toe side. If you want to draw, put it near the hosel. Increase spin? put it at the back.
Callaway mini vs original one please.
Forgot, the shaft length will dictate the proper lie angle.
Unfortunately....not fair on the driver head....needed swing weight adjusting. Great idea though.😊
Swingweight is just a balance number, it's not that the head is any lighter or anything. What's more "unfair" about this test is that the M6 was 9* while the One was 11.5* after lofting down. They make a 11.5* One that can be lofted down to 9.5* which would've been a much better comparison.
i think neither of them are at the right loft and lie angle to give the best launch and spin.
The swing weight of the driver with a 2" shorter shaft should be totally screwed up.
Don’t understand why any one would want mini driver. 3 wood is basically the same thing.
not quite, that comparison video coming soon.
I have one from a couple years ago, the Aeroburner mini 12 degrees. I use it on specific courses. I'm playing one on Saturday that is very tight, and has some holes where you can run out of fairway with the driver. I leave the driver at home and put the mini in the bag. I lose a little distance, but not a whole lot. I make it up on accuaracy...The other thing for me is, I don't seem to have a need for a 3 wood off the deck very often. Sometimes I leave the 3 wood out and carry both a regular driver and mini.
Pick up the mini. You’ll feel that it’s not basically a 3 wood
Scott Kaczmorski Yeah I played 9 with one this morn. It was a little longer than 3 wood.
And deeper face than most 3 woods. For me the mini has longer distance and a tighter dispersion vs 3 wood off the tee. Rarely have a need for 3 wood off the deck.
both driver heads do not have the same weight. first moi match the clubs than compare.
Your spin numbers are horrible. You are missing at least 25 yards just based off spin numbers.
That’s more my strike being a touch low in the face