PokéTuber Reacts to Scientifically Ranking Every Trainer
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2021
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Reacting to pimanrules' video: "Pokémon Red/Blue AI Tournament - Scientifically Ranking the Pokémon Red Trainers"
Original video: • Pokémon Red/Blue AI To...
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Edited by Katie Rose!
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Игры
Cant wait for Emerald... That one Kid that full restores a Zigzagoon
What’s emerald? A NEW REGION TO STEAL AT! I FEEL LIKE A LITTLE GIRL ON CHRISTMAS!
@@gruntyboi8470 Team Sky
WHAT A COMPETITOR!?!? OMG!
What a legend
Unfortunately I don't think he'll do that, he says he doesn't want to do more than one reaction to a creator because he thinks that making lots of reactions he "steals" their contet, which is legitimate but unfortunate too...
Glad you enjoyed the video so much! I wanted to try to respond to some of the questions/comments:
- You're right, the VFX were done with Blender (and a combination of DaVinci Resolve + more PowerPoint than I'm willing to admit)
- The Blaine quote is from Pokémon Puzzle League.
- Yep, in Gen I enemy trainers can heal (or switch out) after you attack.
- I would like to emphasize that I didn't actually sit there for all 4,000 hours worth of battles--it was all orchestrated by a script. Some people seemed concerned for my health and safety 😅
- The "75 turns without taking damage" is more accurately something like, "75 turns without reaching a new minimum total HP" but that doesn't quite roll off the tongue.
- I actually got contacted by a recruiter from a data science company from this video. I don't quite understand how "I like to pretend to be a data scientist" inspired much confidence.
- Why did some of the Professor Oaks underperform? Honestly, the high ranked trainers are so close in strength that it's mostly noise in the Elo ranking at that point. I'm hoping to come up with a better ranking system for the next tournament...
- ....Speaking of which, I'm currently working on the follow-up to this video, where I run the tournament again with all the Pokémon balanced to level 50. Be sure to subscribe if you want to see that! It might be a while, though...
Edit: The follow-up video is (almost) out now! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/247qD1qulSQ/видео.html
Im the first reply!?!?!
That will be an interesting video especially considering how terrible many level up move sets are in Gen 1. I expect some trainers to have Pokemon without any attacking moves.
AWESOME! That sounds awesome! :D
Amazing video! My respects for the patience it takes to do this.
Definitely subscribing for more!
"When you're hot, you're hot" comes from Pokémon Puzzle League on N64.
100 likes
Nope
Blaine is a Bi Legend.
WONDERFUL
This is the comment i was looking for.
28:05 Oak's greatest victory is against himself. This says something about society.
Man I’m tired of all this society around me.
Everyone knows that youngster joey will prevail
He isn't in Kanto and also they don't have names in gen 1
hes in johto like on johto route 29
@@npcmcishark7379 He transcends space and time to destroy everyone with his top tier Rattata
@@npcmcishark7379 even if they dont have names they are still youngster joey
@@npcmcishark7379 he could be in kanto cause they have no names
Anyone else gonna congratulate CoolTrainerM2? Highest ranked no name NPC. With a recorded win against Sabrina. He even uses the solid foundation of a Fire, Water, and Grass trio. *Salute*
what a legend.
dont like this comment again. (its at 69)
CooltrainerM2 standing up for the generic people
He is gonna be a future president of kanto
And right below him is a Juggler with 4 Psychic types, Psychic types were really good in Gen 1.
I salute him. However I wonder where he is. Lmao
The whole thing with Loreli is interesting, but I wasn't really surprised at it, because of the soft lock you can do with her due to the Red AI's quirks.
If you take a fighting type pokemon into the Elite Four (the example I saw used was Primeape) with the move Rage, and use it on Loreli, you can trigger a literally endless battle. Because Primeape is a fighting type, the Red AI that dictates that Loreli use a move that is super effective against it means that she will spam Rest at every chance. If you use the move Rage on it, the Rage will continue indefinitely, without giving you a chance to change Pokemon or use another move. And since PP is endless on the side of the AI, Loreli can use Rest indefinitely. Pikasprey does videos on this kind of thing that are super interesting!
one interesting observation i was able to make is how the three different rivals develop over the course of the game.
early on bulbasaur is the strongest because it has a good learn set early in the game with stuff like leech seed and auto crit razor leaf, but it falls off late game due to the lack of strong poison or grass moves in its learn set.
charmander on the other hand lacks behind early to mid game because of how garbage its natural learn set is in gen-1 as, for some reason, they decided to not give NPCs TM-moves outside of gym leaders who get to use the TM they give you when you beat them, so your rival is stuck using moves like ember and rage for most of the game, charizard finally pulls ahead when it learns flamethrower.
also here is the reason why blastoise champion couldn't get ahead of charizard champion: gyarados is stronger than blastoise and charizard is stronger than arkanine.
hey i saw that video too
How does rage work again?
@@Chasereraser5 In Gen 1 the user's Pokémon is locked into "rage" until it faints or the battle ends. Rage only subtracts one PP when chosen, no matter how many turns the move is in effect (as opposed to subtracting one PP for every turn the move is used). Getting hit by an attack while using rage causes the Pokémon's rage to build, increasing it's attack stat by one stage. So typically the unlimited turns once chosen isn't a problem...because the Pokémon would either KO it's opponents and end the battle, be KOd itself and end the rage lock, or it would be dealing massive amounts of boosted damage to it's opponents and the fight would be on its way to ending.
The glitch happens because Psychic is super effective to Fighting...so Loreli continues to spam rest (a Psychic move) as opposed to attacking. That heals her Pokémon back to full...while your Pokémon is stuck locked using rage with no attack boost. That means you're never able to do enough damage to KO her Pokémon before she can rest and heal it. With no PP restrictions on how often she can use rest...and your Pokémon stuck in rage...the battle just circles...and circles. Rest, rage, rest, rage, rest, rage...
Sorry for the long answer 😂 hope that helps.
The “when you’re hot, you’re hot” line from Blaine was one of his sayings after getting multiple matches in Pokémon Puzzle League for N64. Just a quick throwback lol
I'm honestly surprised anyone knows about n64 PPL
@@ruisurengai that game was my jam back in the day. I mean who wouldn’t like Pokémon Tetris? Lol granted I’m also old enough that the game came out while I was a kid so unless you’re as old as me you probably didn’t play it
@@mannydm962 I played the hell out of it back in the day. Getting to Giovanni then Mewtwo was an actual challenge
Love that game
I'm waiting for the day that grunty boy will become self-aware enough to realize that HE'S the one promoting the products.
I've been thinking about that. I was wondering how he hadn't realized yet,
Check out the Hardest pokemon game video.
It has already happened.
Well, at least he'll get money after all
In this case, the TRASH products
Random person: What is your IQ?
Lorelei from gen 1: I have a question first!
Random person: Yes?
Lorelei from gen 1: What's IQ?
Okay that's pretty good
I counted 3 new possible meme templates from this encounter with grunty boi :
Dancing Mikey, leering grunty boi and mcscuse
Your not the hottest poketuber
We can’t ignore that Agatha literally lost to her self
Wow that’s just sad.
You mean Agatha WON against herself
bruh i didnt notice that, thanks for making me laugh!
@@mubarakugas6896 Anyways it's still the same it's the same logic as
1/2 filled or is it 1/2 empty
All her poison Pokémon weren’t enough
"Venomoth is capable of beating Lance's Lance's Dragonite"
Weedle: "Am I a joke to you?"
“Lance’s Lance’s Dragonite” 😂
@@rayne2135 ikr
@@rayne2135 My man made a mistake, don't gotta laugh at him.
@@sparrowizsecondlieutenant84 I know, we all make mistakes.
Magikarp😞😞😞
Grunty boi: appears
Everyone:a surprise to be sure,but a welcome one
IT IS I, GRUNTY BOI
@@gruntyboi8470 Grunty Boi Team rocket has dispanded so you need to share them their tactics so they can stay afloat
@@gruntyboi8470 *G R U N T Y B O I*
When you see this and think "But... did I really defeat all these hundreds of trainers? MULTIPLE TIMES?"
As an actual data scientist, building models sometimes is just a matter of “fudging it”. Knowing the subject matter you’re studying about helps model building a lot.
Also, Kernel distributions work here, but another way to do it would be K-Means, or maybe even Nearest Neighbor if you want to make “tiers”. In fact, you can chose how many “tiers” that you want to cluster by.
Petition for Mikey to make: pyschic type then Vs now
Edit: Thanks for this much likes appreciate it😀
The thumbnail would just be Alakazam with comically large muscles vs Alakazam with slightly less comically large muscles since psychic type barely got any worse since gen 1 with the immense coverage so many get.
@@anothergamer112 Yeah pretty much. I heard somewhere that Tyranitar is the pokemon who has stayed in OU for the longest consecutive time. But I feel like Alakazam would be in OU since it's release lol
agree
he probably already is
Agreed
Mikey: Sponsored by Raycon and talking about how great they are.
Also Mikey: Goes right back to using wired earbuds after the advertisment is over.
Me: *Wut*
There are amazing! Even I won’t compile!
To be fair, wireless earbuds desync a lot
No.1 : its pre recorded
No.2: he probably doesn't have a bluetooth adapter.
@@chanakyaverpula3546 I know, it was just a joke :D. Wired earbuds are probably overall better for reactions and such.
if he kept in the raycons, he'd have to keep stopping to fix them in his ear every 5 seconds
I am no psychic type but I can predict that Vibing Michael is going to be one hell of a meme.
"Why did you come here?"
"Just to annoy you"
#relatable
#relatable
I like how the rival is coded as Sony at 4:27 its funny because Nintendo and Sony are obviously rivals and originally red's name was Nintendo and blue's name was Sony.
that explains why blue always loses LOL
Now that I think about it, there actually is a reason that the Oak fight was cut. In the beginning of the game, Oak says something along the lines of "back in the day, I was a skilled Pokemon trainer. Now, I have only these three left." Meaning that there's no way that he had the other 4 pokemon in his battle team unless he went out and started training again.
They could have just removed that line.
That's what I thought too.
I think I've learned more about the trainer AI in 30 minutes of watching these videos than I have in the past 25 years playing the games. Wow.
mikey: let's dive in
does everyone have a voice in their head that goes "ha ha, it is I grunty boi" at this line
YES IT IS I!
@@gruntyboi8470 Hi grunty boi, it is I Ash
YASSSSSS. Also, you just know that the moment the ads supposed to rudely pop up and annoy you at the beginning it's GRUNTY BOI saying *extravagantly* * "It is I !, GRUNTY boi!" *
IT IS HIM! GRUNTY BOI!
@@ellienugent3120 I AM NOT ANNOYING! BUT WHEN I STEAL SILPH CO’S ENTIRE SAVINGS THEN MAYBE I AM BUT NOT NOW!
I found the coding bit to be quite cool. When I first played through Red Version (not my first game), I had a Lvl. 6 Oddish on my team as a HM "mule". When I fought Lance, all of my pokemon fainted except for Oddish. I gave up at that point, only to find that it just spammed barrier. I just poison stalled it, and to this day it is known as "Oddish the Dragon Slayer"
That's a pretty cool story
@@heroofthewinds7765 Thanks! I thought so too. When I witnessed it, I was so confused 😂
Like ATV
Incredible data planning, structure, simulation and degree-level mechanics and digital engineering.
Mikey: "I love the visuals!" 😂😂
Please react to “Can You Beat A Level 100 Hoppip With A Level 5 Totodile”
It’s a great video that no one has reacted to yet
That first trainer: i was made to lose
Technically all trainers are. Some just don't get the memo that it's their job to bend over and get their ass kicked.
@Gengarzilla well yeah, all trainers are just training ground
Loved that piman used the Pokémon puzzle league Blaine “when you’re hot youre hot” quote. Played that game so much as a kid
Came here to post that this is the (as far as I'm aware) origin. Good spot!!
I like how it he showed Misty right afterword too.
Hey Mikey, super excited to see you react to this video. I found it myself and thought you might enjoy it.
I was inspired by your Metronome league to do a metronome-only randomizer of Platinum. I named my character after you (your rival is Chance, lol) and I chose psyduck for my starter. Wish me luck!
Mikey is the only youtuber i know that actually ask peoples permission to react to a video.
Everyone: This video's sponsored by Raycon!
My Doctor: You cannot wear earbuds as your eardrums are sensitive and on the brink of being punctured.
Ouch
Bro.... Take care man
Take care my dude
I’m sorry man
?
9:25 i love how mikey just listens to miror b battle music
Loreili makes sense when you think about it. The code prioritizes healing and super effective, regardless of damage or not. Rest is a healing Psychic move (in a game/region with an abundance of Poison types), so the AI would set Rest as a priority almost always.
I'm happy you covered Pimanrules' video, it REALLY deserves more views.
Auto subtitles:Greetings boogie fans!
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💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
Michael hear
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@@GPanimates *grunty boi?*
Commenting once again, live, through the power of the internet
Commenting on every Mandjtv Video until he brings back Raccoon Man day:77 #wewantraccoonmanback
Huh?
You're determined.
@@itsmepandazzz7579 you're new.
Good luck
I support this movement
Grunty Boi’s only purpose is to annoy Mikey so when he’s unable to do that he gets bothered.
Omg this is phenomenal! I want more of these! Holy crap
This is really going to become a science channel, isnt it
Yes
Hail yeah it is.
To be fair, the original video and his reaction were more focused on math than science
Became?
It already is
If you want more science with pokemon lockstin and gnoggin are a great channel
Is anyone else's brain just exploding right now?
I understood Everything of that video, even though I'm not even an Adult, just a 14 Year old Pokemon Fanboy
Finally! I have long awaited for Mike to watch the big brain analysis video on the AI teams!
Also, nice surprise for Grunty Boi to NOT appear at the start of the video, BUT IN THE MIDDLE. And he as an Alter-Ego GETS IGNORED for a while by Mike. It was to catch our guard off, but I actually was expecting this might happen when there is "Includes Paid Promotion"
I like the consistency behind the highest ranked Champion rival having Charizard while the highest ranked Oak fight has Blastoise. You would have been able to fight both of them if you choose Bulbasaur.
Michael: *Reacts to a video you have already seen*
Me: *hapiness noise*
*pauses video* “Why is this happening?!”
*plays the video* “Oh I guess that’s why”
I just subbed to you, Eryizo and Mystic Umbreon! You're all really great Pokémon youtubers! Great content Michael, keep it up!
When I watched this video for the first time, I was amazed by the visuals as well!! The production quality of that vid is amazing 🤩
Raycon: *sponsors video*
Mikey: *uses wired ear buds*
Raycon: -_-
Michael's Desktop PC doesn't have Bluetooth, most Desktop PC don't have Bluetooth, and he was reacting the video on PC, but he uses them on his Mobile!
At least we've got confirmation that Mikey was not, in fact, hacked
W u t
@@sylvangrovegacha698 just before this video was released, he sent out a weird community post saying to sub to a random podcast channel and to not ask questions, everyone started worrying he was hacked after that
"When you're hot you're hot" is a like Blane uses in Pokémon puzzle league
Yeah this video is actually insane the editing is crazy and the massive amount of info is just incredible to watch one of my favorite videos of all time period so I'm glad you got to see it thanks for sharing!!!!!!! 😊😊😊😊😊
Also thank you for the long video I love your reaction I'm watching all of it right now! 😂
Thank you so much for covering this! You giving it attention means it might be duplicated, and I really want that
It's criminal that there is no Grunty Boi in this video!
U mean crime?
why am I a crime? WELL THAT IS A COMPLIMENT! BUT WHAT ARE U SAYING
@Daron Nazarian it is i
@@gruntyboi8470 sup Grunty boi
@@kannan07 it’s criminal means it’s a crime so yes
The way Mikey promotes his sponsors is always so creative
I want him to set up AI runs of Red, basically have an AI with its team run the battles as the player would xD Imagine a Bug Catcher starting with level 5 Weedle and level 5 Caterpie, seeing how far it gets through the storyline.
Me: "Chilling and paying attention to the video's technical talk."
Grunty Boi: "I'm gonna stop you right there"
Low-key grunty boi just showing up outta nowhere 8 minutes in kinda startled me
YES IT IS I!
@@gruntyboi8470 give a warning before you do that again. plz.
Michael: Greetings Pokefans, Michael here!
the subtitles: greetings boogie fans michael here
This whole thing blew my mind. Nice work, pimanrules!
Can you make a video called "What if trial captains are island kahunas." Give them 6 pokemon .
Neat idea
POV: Your not first, but your right on time.
Yea
This is relatable
Yessssssss
I'm 25th
Hey
After the second turn, no matter what, Lorelei's Dewgong will always use Rest. This is even if the Dewgong is at full health.
I just want to say that I appreciate your usage of the Miror B. theme music.
This is such a good idea for a series
POV: you see like 3000 POV comments and the video just came out
You are a king Mikey you warm up my days when I have been beaten to my core and you inspire me to better my RUclips channel. I hope your days are happy and bright forever.
13:59 Definitely was a surprise to see @Drew Durnil here, but a welcome one to be sure.
I like how Grunty Boi appears midway through the video and not the usual just before the event begins in the video.
Dang it looks like Brock was ONIX - spected
Thanks Micheal for introducing us to this amazing video
Trainers can heal after you attack in Gen 1. I don't remember if that's how it worked in GSC, but in Gen 3 onwards, items always had priority over attacks.
"When your hot your hot." That is from the puzzle league on the n64, and had me rolling
Grunty boy: Doesn't apear in the beginning but in the middle of the video
Everyone: surprised Pikachu face
CUZ IT IS I! GRUNTYYYY BOOIIII
In a long time, a reaction video that really got my interest, cause this time a) i like the content to get reacted on and b) i like the person who react
The fact that Michael drowned out Grunty Boi with Miror B’s Gale of Darkness theme is really amusing to me. That theme just resonates with me.
I’m not sure if Blaine ever said the “if you’re hot you’re hot” in the anime but I’m 95% certain he said it in the Pokemon Puzzle League N64 game.
I think you mean *50%* certain, as if it is not 100%, it is 50%
@Zeta No no. Not a joke but a fact.
What if you make a video about “What if The Evil Team Admins becomes the leader of the evil team and what will their team look like if they are the evil team leader”??
I remember watching this on his channel...I want another one he did a beautiful job
The 0 dmg thing finally makes sense. That's why the poison sting from weedle never could poison brocks rock types. It always said they missed and I knew they couldn't miss. And was upset I didn't get a chance to poison him.
I tried so often to get poison on his geodude at the start of a battle, if he used defense curl, to sneak some easy XP on my weedle after switching him out, but it NEVER hit the thing. I assumed that it was a bug, or a special ability of Brock to stop you from "cheesing" him with his 2 pokemon. I did not know you could deal less than 1 dmg.
I think a cool follow up would be the same trainers, teams, and ai but with everyone have the same level of pokémon. This would show who's truly the best trainer when you remove certain trainers stomping others just because of level differences.
Grunty Boi: It is I, grunty b....
*Mikey vibing*
Grunty Boi: YOU'RE NOT HOT!
*Loads gun*
Me: *EXTERNALLY* PFFFFFTTT......😶😛😛😶😆😆😆....
Me: *INTERNALLY* 😂😂😂...😆😆😆🤗🤗🤗🤗😉😉😉😀😀😀😁😁😁😑😑😐😐🙄🙄🙄🙄🤗🤗🤗😏😎😋😛😜😝🙁😓😔😕😖🙃😷🤒🤕🤑😲😞😟😤😢😭😦😧😨😩😬😰😱😳😵😡😠☻☹👿😈👹👺💀👻👽👾🤖💩😺😸😻😼😽🙀😾🙈🙉🙊👦👧👨👩👴👵
Hi man great vid
Btw
Can you do flying type then vs now since they’ve been around for a ton of tome
For your sequel idea, I think the trainer classes with a switching routine (especially the jugglers) would have a huge advantage
4:42 "If it's not 100% accurate, it's 50% accurate."
Also does anyone find it ironic that he wasn't using his Raycon earbuds
ladies and gentleman, i-i think my brain just comitted suicide, i can feel it bleeding
Couldn't understand all that math huh?
@@heroofthewinds7765 its not the math more of the coding
@@genesissupernova7114 right 😆
Tday is my bday,and im enjoying it even more bcoz of my fav youtuber MandJtv!
i think blastoise oak out-performed the other oaks because of withdraw. could deal more and take more damage.
Mikey: I love Raycon
Also Mikey: *Doesnt even wear raycon in the video*
He said a few comments up that his computer doesn't have a Bluetooth adapter.
Alright! Another MandJtv Video! My favourite!
@mandjtv your question as to why the Oak with the Blastoise beat all the Rivals BUT the other two Oaks ranked below the Rival.
I might have missed that someone else answered this or suggested this, but Rival has an Alakazam that Oak really has no counters to, and doesn’t have one himself (since so many Pokémon overlap) BUT I bet the Blastoise puts up the best fight, obviously with Venusaur being weak to psychic, and maybe Charizard having the lower special (defense) or lower physical attack compared to Blastoise. Giving it that advantage over Blue that the other Oaks don’t have.
As far as I can tell, the "effect" you mention is essentially pulling the 2D sprites into 3D software and applying them to various objects and moving it around.
Interesting vid, i am happy you saw it
If I had to guess why Oak falls short in every case apart from Blastoise, I would say it's because Blue has very little to counter it with. Blue in all three cases will have a Rhydon, an Alakazam, and an Executor. Oak in all three cases will have an Arcanine, and Executor, a Gyarados, and a Tauros. Meaning that Oak will always have either 2 Fire, 2 Water, or 2 grass types.
The most important factor in this (I think) is that all of Oak's Pokémon (no matter what) have terrible movesets, consisting of low accuracy moves, weak recoil moves, Pokémon with only three moves, "Route 1 Moves" like Leer and Tailwhip... BUT... Oak does have a slight level advantage.
_i say slight because the gap between levels becomes smaller, the higher you go. lvl 10 vs lvl 15 is equivalent to lvl 75 vs lvl 100._
Oak however, manages to come out on top in the end (probably) because unlike the other instances... Blastoise and Gyarados only share one weakness... Electric... Something Blue doesn't have. Charizard and Arcanine are weak to Water, Venusaur and Executor are both weak to Flying and Fire (thus is comes in last). Blastoise and Gyarados share no such weakness though (that Blue can exploit). And so Blastoise Oak wins solely because it has a better team structure with less shared weaknesses.
Well, Oak's team has a key flaw. He only has 5. Blue has 6. If Oak had 6 he'd have the top 3 spots.
And there is a new video with corrections, a new way to match all trainers, and a final matchup among the best.
Lorelei is really funny, when you realize that her worst loss was to someone stronger than her.
Omg I’ve never clicked so fast
I was just watching rythm docter
i appreciate that he calls the rival Green
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!
@MandJTV 5:49 That voice clip of Blaine is from Pokémon Puzzle League.
Imagine if michael said "no I'm not dealing with this today" and grabbed an ultra ball
Grunty Boi used Thief!
@@notplussynot6993 it's super effective
@@adamhastie8439 Mikey flinched and cannot move!
@@hiitsvenus no he didn’t flinch he used counter and grungy boi fainted