The Real Reason Marty McFly’s Dad Wasn't In The Sequel

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Год назад +423

    I never even realised that Glover was fired, and that another actor was used in his likeness. Probably because he's only seen upside down, or shot from far away.

    • @I_WANT_MY_SLAW
      @I_WANT_MY_SLAW Год назад +29

      That was their intention. That's why Crispin took them to court. And your comment proves that he had a valid case.

    • @AlexNona80
      @AlexNona80 Год назад +2

      @@I_WANT_MY_SLAW because he argued with director that the ending of bttf1 is not to his liking

    • @thedarkfrost2351
      @thedarkfrost2351 Год назад

      Exactly

    • @king_supreme1102
      @king_supreme1102 Год назад

      Literally had no clue

    • @g.sferrazza10-13
      @g.sferrazza10-13 Год назад +3

      well he was not fired, technically... Not rehired for the sequels, would be closer to what I understood in the video

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert Год назад +265

    My headcannon about Jennifer looking different in Part II is that Marty's meddling in 1955 may have inadvertently caused one of Jen's parents to meet a different person so in the new timeline that Marty created her, genetics are slightly different.
    I guess it's like the old trope where someone accidentally kills a bug when visiting the distant past and when they return to the present they learn that hyperintelligent dolphins have won WWII or some other insane thing.

    • @bigwaffle3018
      @bigwaffle3018 Год назад +29

      Theoretically parents didn’t even need a change, makes more sense if a sperm or egg changed. Or, a couple dominant and recessive genes got swapped (I like this idea more because it means Marty is still dating Jen and not technically Jen's sister)

    • @ClarkeMarek
      @ClarkeMarek Год назад

      In other words, the Nth Doctor trope.

    • @Richard_Nickerson
      @Richard_Nickerson Год назад +4

      Butterfly effect...
      Weird you didn't just use other in-universe examples that already exist and came up with that absurd hypothetical...

    • @Richard_Nickerson
      @Richard_Nickerson Год назад +2

      ​@@bigwaffle3018
      I like this explanation

    • @Kraven83
      @Kraven83 Год назад +2

      Canon, not cannon

  • @abdelali9279
    @abdelali9279 Год назад +82

    I am literally hearing about this for the first time right now, the studios really fooled me into thinking Crispin Glover was in the sequel, and it is difficult when you watch a dubbed version and that keeps the same VA so the illusion is kept, but man it is dirty, I mean recasting for contract issues, understandable, but trying to take a double make it pass for the original actor now that's low.

    • @AholeAtheist
      @AholeAtheist Год назад +5

      Also, it's not as if the studio didn't have the money to pay man.

  • @TheMagpie4Real
    @TheMagpie4Real Год назад +45

    Having to pay Glover after the lawsuit, but still not actually having his awesome acting in the last two movies... feels like poetic justice. Of the hilarious kind 😄 Bet someone, or several someones, regretted simply not paying him better to begin with.

  • @DuelScreen
    @DuelScreen Год назад +56

    Something always seemed off in that movie and now you've explained it to me. It's sad but there it is. I'm glad he took legal action and this ultimately led to protections across the industry.

    • @Olivver_2019
      @Olivver_2019 Год назад +4

      Yes! Can you imagine the movie industry taking your likeness and never giving anything to you? It’s crazy that they thought it would be okay.

  • @MrPipat
    @MrPipat Год назад +44

    Isn't it ironic how Crispin glover had issues with pay, but also had issues with the screenplay about monetary reward?!

    • @ThatJohnKillion1970
      @ThatJohnKillion1970 Год назад +4

      came here to say the same thing.

    • @yonaguy6978
      @yonaguy6978 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yea i thought they earned that ending with the courage and support the parents got from Marty in the past, materialism is the last thing I'm thinking about seeing them later. I'm just happy they're happy

    • @Wonderbrains
      @Wonderbrains 10 месяцев назад +5

      It's ironic but still fair point to Crispin for wanting the same cut as Biff and Lorain, if that's true

    • @idiotglee
      @idiotglee 10 месяцев назад +3

      he wanted a million, he got 3/4 a million in the settlement (but it's not about money)

    • @Ben-jl2rh
      @Ben-jl2rh 8 месяцев назад +5

      Weirdly enough it's always the rich that say that money doesn't matter. He is such a hypocrite

  • @alanmichael5619
    @alanmichael5619 11 месяцев назад +2

    I really found Glover's objections to the first film's ending odd.
    It would have been really weird for Marty's family to be happier and more successful but no financial gain stemming from that. It's clear that the financial gain stemmed from the happiness and confidence that Marty's parents had.

  • @damboulton
    @damboulton Год назад +194

    I think it's pretty clear from the way the production handled the replacement casting, and what has come out after the fact, that Crispin Glover was treated poorly after the making of the first film. I also doubt that he wanted to be paid as much as the star of the film, but just the same as his fellow co-stars.

    • @jeffreycarman2185
      @jeffreycarman2185 Год назад +9

      Agreed. While I doubt his story of the moral of Back to the Future, because it’s not like the McFly family had really moved up in the world to being fabulously wealthy. After all, they still lived in the same home, and his older siblings (who were out of high school) were still living at home. Yes the house was marginally nicer and they drove nicer cars. But the moral shown in the altered timeline was that George had gained confidence to come closer to being the person he had always aspired to be.

    • @idiotglee
      @idiotglee Год назад +1

      Spielberg came up to me during production (I was encased in a body cast to do the fx), and he said snarly, "So Crispin, I see you got your million dollars after all."

    • @El_Bueno
      @El_Bueno Год назад +5

      You need to watch the making of part one. He was a pain in the ass. Glover was just being a nuisance.

    • @annikam1272
      @annikam1272 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@idiotgleewait thats so fucked up

    • @alanmichael5619
      @alanmichael5619 11 месяцев назад +1

      From reading everything - I get the impression that Glover had been a really difficult person to work with in the first film.
      There were quite a few scenes that took a whole bunch of takes because he couldn't follow instructions properly.
      The difference between glover and Lea Thompson was that the latter seemed to really help bind the cast together.
      There's quite a lot of stories of Glover being difficult to work with and him having a short temper. Another thing that really makes me not a fan of Crispin Glover is that Jeffrey Weissman actually helped Glover with the lawsuit - and Glover immediately told Universal absolutely wrecking Weissman's career.
      Whilst I agree Glover was treated unfairly over the likeness incident - it feels to me like it certainly didn't do himself any favours.

  • @fredbloggs5902
    @fredbloggs5902 Год назад +31

    On a similar note, Michael Biehn is on record saying he got paid more for his likeness in Alien-3 than he did for his role in Aliens.

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 Год назад +3

      I think that's fair, considering they killed off his character, thus any chance for him to do a sequel. That should be worth something.

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 Год назад +72

    I sort of disagree that what was gained at the end of the first movie was wealth. I mean they seem to be doing a bit better financially. However the parents’ relationship DOES seem to be stronger. And the monetary gain is tied more to George’s career. Which to me is way more about George achieving his dreams, rather than having more money. Although it’s definitely a bonus with the car Marty gets. Money seems to be a minor bonus to me, not the main thing that was gained. I’d say it’s a distant third to the parents love and George’s happiness with his career.

    • @phillip_reynolds
      @phillip_reynolds Год назад +3

      Very well said.

    • @JB-sm5sm
      @JB-sm5sm Год назад +5

      I agree. If you examine the first scene with George in 1985, he is basically doing 2 jobs at his workplace, his and Biff's. The only reason that he wasn't advancing in that workplace was because of Biff's bullying. Another thing to notice is that the family didn't change houses, they just went from being a dysfunctional, middle class family to being a functional, slightly upper middle class family. They didn't switch to living in the kind of McMansion that we saw in a lot of other 1980's movies.

    • @king_supreme1102
      @king_supreme1102 Год назад +1

      @@JB-sm5sm yeah I would’ve mentioned the house but I feel like everyone realizes that

    • @salfal3
      @salfal3 Год назад +1

      I totally agree. I have a feeling that Crispin believes the version we see is better than what was originally planned, due to his recommendations.

    • @BiohazardEXTREME
      @BiohazardEXTREME Год назад +3

      You could also say that their monetary gain can be attributed TO their relationship. That in being loving and supportive of each other, they managed to elevate each other's long term confidence and morale, which may very well have helped them in their careers and overall life decisions.

  • @NFStamper
    @NFStamper Год назад +103

    His portrayal was so good, and the lack of his presence hurt the sequels.

    • @Dan55888
      @Dan55888 Год назад +2

      Did it though? I love the 3rd movie and it dosnt have any of Glovers character

    • @checkmate8015
      @checkmate8015 Год назад

      Lmao No

    • @AholeAtheist
      @AholeAtheist Год назад

      I think the second film is equal to the first, and the third is almost as good as the first two also. It's a shame that Glover wasn't in it, but it's still pretty damn good.

    • @LilyApus
      @LilyApus Год назад

      considering most people think he was in the sequels I would have to say no, it did not.

    • @Rob-z7k
      @Rob-z7k Год назад

      I forgot about him while watching part 3

  • @thez28camaroman
    @thez28camaroman Год назад +22

    Honestly, no, I don't think Crispin Glover's absence made the sequels worse, nor would his involvement change much about Part 2 and 3. George McFly was integral to the first film but wasn't all that important to the plot of the second and third. He wouldn't have had much to do outside what we've seen in Part 2, and his death makes A LOT of sense and drama for the Alternate 1985.

    • @socklock1957
      @socklock1957 8 месяцев назад

      Ditto, plus after listening to his side of the story where he not only hated the ending of the first movie with the whole “money equals happiness” argument but with Parts 2 & 3 he wanted more money than his 2 co-stars (Lea Thompson & Tom Wilson), that sounds pretty hypocritical don’t you think?

    • @EAO_Wadsy
      @EAO_Wadsy 4 месяца назад

      I disagree. What you don't realise is that the filmmakers changed the plot of the second film due to him not coming back. The original idea was to have Marty travel back to the 60s or something along those lines. He was going to be a big part of the plot.

  • @MrGamer07100
    @MrGamer07100 Год назад +47

    Ever since I learned of this after watching the trilogy, I kept pondering how potentially better the sequels could be if Gripson Glover reprised in Part ll especially. For what they managed to do I’m okay what we got. Just can’t help but sake the feeling they had missed narrative opportunities. It just sounds like they didn’t appreciate him enough to meet his revenue request. He was a significant reason why the first movie was such a classic. Of course it doesn’t guarantee the sequels would be as good, but I’m sure his role would have been just as great. Apparently he was suppose to be the dad ancestor for Part lll too.

  • @hankhillsnrrwurethra
    @hankhillsnrrwurethra Год назад +67

    Crispin Glover is a misunderstood creative genius. His dad had been around Hollywood, you'd know him from Bond flicks. So Crispin was 'difficult'? He was well aware of how Hollywood can and will f*ck talent over. Hollywood gets really pissy when 'talent' starts agitating for their 'rights'.

    • @keithwoodcrest
      @keithwoodcrest Год назад +2

      That's s great point actually

    • @Dan55888
      @Dan55888 Год назад +9

      "Money dosnt buy happiness" was a dumb rock for a rich actor to die on

    • @hankhillsnrrwurethra
      @hankhillsnrrwurethra Год назад +7

      @@Dan55888 artists think differently. He makes art. You make Cheeto marks on keyboards.

    • @hankhillsnrrwurethra
      @hankhillsnrrwurethra Год назад +2

      Anyway it was the David Letterman thing that flushed his career, not any of this.

    • @Scornfull
      @Scornfull Год назад +5

      @@hankhillsnrrwurethra He isn't wrong and it was really dumb to get upset about that in a movie when the obvious reason why everyone was actually wasn't even about money it was about George standing up to Biff and having self confidence changed his family's future for the better he protected his wife from potential SA

  • @capucined7574
    @capucined7574 Год назад +89

    I liked his character in the first movie but most importantly: I TOTALLY agree with his concern about the ending! I've always felt bitter sweet with the alternate reality, because although they all seem happier, money was the most predominant change and it didn't feel quite right

    • @rjcurrie61
      @rjcurrie61 Год назад +22

      Or is money just a side effect of a more confident George who is actually following his dream of being an author?

    • @capucined7574
      @capucined7574 Год назад +2

      @@rjcurrie61 yes, but how I viewed it, it felt like the focal point more than a side effect, but I agree with the fact that it can be a logical consequence (although confidence doesn't always guarantee you wealth or success in real life)

    • @rossburney8713
      @rossburney8713 Год назад +13

      But when one is broke - money does help with happiness. If I'm not worried about putting food on the table or paying bills than I'm happier.
      To a point : yes money does buy happiness

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol Год назад +6

      My take was always that self confidence often results in success in one or another form. It could be a happy ever after with his girl but also professional success and that typically results in money. So, to me the money part was just a side effect. It never occurred to me that there could or should be the narrative that money equals happiness.
      I mean, I get the viewpoint but it seems a bit too simplistic to me.

    • @Varangian_af_Scaniae
      @Varangian_af_Scaniae Год назад

      All you communists are the same!

  • @gstcomputing65
    @gstcomputing65 Год назад +5

    Wow, Glover's desired ending would've been a massive fail. How could George be happy in a marriage with a dead-end job and kids that have dead-end jobs without any prospects or future? That would've ruined the franchise.

  • @Johnadams20760
    @Johnadams20760 Год назад +7

    This is actually the reason in part 2 they wound up having George Mcfly dead in alt 1985 and went that route. not sure what they would have done otherewesie. also why even what scenes he was in barely, it was very limited.
    honestly though. Glover was being an idiot tryign to demand how the people paying his paycheck end a movie. he also wanted as much money as Fox but he was nowheree near the tar Fox was at the time.
    and honestly he is wrong. anyway having more money etc.. meant george and lorraine were both in a healthier relationship becasue he gained confidence, stood up for himself, and confidence also bring more financial success as wlel, it wasn't like they lived in a big mansion. they were literally in the same house. the success was he became a sci fi writer nd had his first novel published at this point.
    he looked happier, healthier. the kids instead of working at Mcdonalds had a job that likely meant he had to go to college for . same house. just cleaner. a little more updated. having a slightly nicer car. but i do wonder if he would have played shemus mcfly instead of fox if he was in part 3

  • @ronaldwilson9525
    @ronaldwilson9525 Год назад +12

    I doubt that Glover was so turned off by the ending he wouldn’t do the sequels. I’m guessing it was because of the money. No judgment by me. I don’t blame him. I would have probably done the same. The production team could have easily replaced him with a different actor and not used his likeness. As stated that’s what they did with Marty’s girlfriend, replaced the actress.

  • @cmbaz1140
    @cmbaz1140 Год назад +7

    The first was about the father
    The second was about marty
    The third was about the doc
    Is what i always thought...

  • @Woozlewuzzleable
    @Woozlewuzzleable Год назад +8

    There was a lot of drama around the making of this movie franchise, it amazes me that it wasn’t a mess.

  • @schris3
    @schris3 Год назад +1

    In Crispin's place, although I would kinda tolerated a lookalike in the 50s scenes, I would have been furious about the director making a circus from my absence, making the lookalike talk like me and putting him upside down to mask the fact it wasn't me.

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx Год назад +8

    Even Biff wouldn't do something this low.

  • @BarrySagittarius240
    @BarrySagittarius240 Год назад +3

    I applaud Crispin’s commitment to the integrity of the story but disagree with his interpretation of the ending. It’s not like Marty comes back to a mansion with a pool. It’s the same house, same neighborhood just a little nicer. They needed to show a visual difference so the audience understands it’s not the same. Yes, they’re a little richer but that’s not the point. The message is still one of self-respect.

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx Год назад +82

    I feel bad for what happened to Crispin Glover.

    • @I_WANT_MY_SLAW
      @I_WANT_MY_SLAW Год назад +18

      I do too. He was a martyr. What he did destroyed his career, but he helped so many other actors who came after him. We're now dealing with the same issues regarding AI.

    • @Dan55888
      @Dan55888 Год назад +3

      I don't, it is easy for a rich actor to say "Money dosnt buy happiness"

    • @El_Bueno
      @El_Bueno Год назад +3

      Don’t. He’s the one who messed up

    • @katakisLives
      @katakisLives 5 месяцев назад

      @@I_WANT_MY_SLAW I think the main difference with the Crispin Glover situation is if they'd paid him enough they could've had the real McCoy.
      Best thing about AI is when thats impossible like making Harrison Ford young again or literally bringing Peter Cushing back from the dead.

  • @solarplexus7
    @solarplexus7 Год назад +9

    Both things are true. They should have paid him more, and yet by fighting back he missed out on being in all of the iconic trilogy.

  • @Punmaster9001
    @Punmaster9001 Год назад +5

    I didn't realize any of this when I watched the movies as a kid, infact I didn't realize Michael J. Fox played his own daughter in 2, something seemed different about her, but I didn't know what it was at the time. He was very pretty though.
    I think what amazes me after all that went down is Crispin Glover coming back for the TellTale games Back To The Future game. That was a decent follow up to the movies, and I would argue a proper sequel to the original Trilogy

  • @unclem7816
    @unclem7816 Год назад +6

    Marty's family becoming rich and equating that to happiness is wrong.
    Also, pay me more money!

  • @meatbap
    @meatbap Год назад +5

    Ironic that Crispin Glover disliked the 'materialistic' ending, yet disputed his pay

    • @kjh23gk
      @kjh23gk Год назад +3

      Wanting to be paid fairly for the job you do is not being "materialistic".

    • @meatbap
      @meatbap Год назад

      @@kjh23gk 'fairly' is subjective to which level of pay he wanted

  • @battlestar976
    @battlestar976 Год назад +2

    I never got that impression that money made happenss from that movie. It definitely felt more like he was given the confidence to have a better life.

  • @idiotglee
    @idiotglee Год назад +1

    Correction: The Paradox script always had the Ortholev device in’t, not to obscure who was playing George, (in one version Marty is in’t), but rather it was meant to keep Crispin on his focus marks for camera because he’d over or under shoot them. So the Bobs came up with the idea to control his movement.

  • @crazyshinx11
    @crazyshinx11 Год назад +4

    Funny enough, Old George being upside down was in the script when Crispin read it. While originally just a joke about him throwing his back out it ended up working even better in the movies favor once they found out he wasn’t coming back

    • @JediMasterBaiter
      @JediMasterBaiter 11 месяцев назад

      I heard it was the writers finding a way to torture Glover because he was being so difficult.

  • @pqsk
    @pqsk Год назад +5

    According to Crispin Glover, nothing changed in his 2015 version. he was upside down in the script he read. it's just a weird coincidence

  • @BudhagRizzo
    @BudhagRizzo Год назад +1

    I think Glover was probably fired because of his reservations about the ending of Part 1, and they probably felt he'd be a problem to work with in Part 2.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Год назад +34

    Ironically, while George found it difficult to stand up for himself, Crispin had no such problem, and was something of a Prima Donna on set.

    • @rikmichaels9233
      @rikmichaels9233 Год назад

      At least he was a boomer with Principles and morals unlike most of them Who love materialism, hate and Reagan

  • @Dan55888
    @Dan55888 Год назад +2

    I love the movies but dont understand why people think Glover was so stand out or even needed for the sequels

  • @DestinyA83
    @DestinyA83 Год назад +1

    I didn't realize it was a different person. I did not even know they replaced Jennifer!!
    So I do not understand why there's such a fuss.
    Part of me says, he's just throwing a fit because he didn't get paid as much.

  • @truemoviefanatic7199
    @truemoviefanatic7199 Год назад +1

    I feels ironic that the issue was the ending implying money equaling happiness but it was the financial dispute thay didn't allow him to return to the sequal, following up with a lawsuit

  • @cliffdodson1592
    @cliffdodson1592 Год назад +1

    I really enjoyed this!!! Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤

  • @sgtduckduck
    @sgtduckduck Год назад +8

    Glover: *takes issue with first movie for making the ending focused on money*
    Also Glover: *won't take a role in the sequel unless they pay him more money*

    • @daviddandrige9461
      @daviddandrige9461 Год назад +1

      And it was not like he had a big role in the sequels 🤦‍♂️ I like him, but this is one of those times when you shut up & do what you are paid to do. He’s an actor not a writer or director.

  • @Dm6Ripper
    @Dm6Ripper Год назад +1

    Never in all these years did I notice it wasn't Glover, he definitely has good reason to be mad about his likeness being used, but I still side with the studio execs that there is no way he should have gotten the same pay as Michael J Fox for that supporting role. (Great work by the make up artists though!)

  • @Vivi_9
    @Vivi_9 Год назад +1

    "Monetary value shouldn't equal happiness"
    *argues over payment for next movie*

  • @Magdalena8008s
    @Magdalena8008s Год назад +2

    I do agree with Glover to a certain degree. But you signed onto the project knowing this before hand. So, its on him. He could have said no originally if he didnt like how it ended. Or...you do the job your hired for and its as simple as that.

    • @adi1582
      @adi1582 Год назад

      The actors weren't given the full script until a couple weeks before because they were afraid of leaks.

  • @markjackson6431
    @markjackson6431 Год назад +1

    “the real reason” ….weve literally known this for atleast 2 decades. where y’all been

  • @WickedFireBird69
    @WickedFireBird69 Год назад +1

    His claims about "money doesn't equal happiness it's the love" and then turning around and demanding more money for his part is...hilarious!

    • @adi1582
      @adi1582 Год назад

      I think it's fair for him to demand the same amount of pay as the actress who plays his wife, and the guy who plays Biff; honestly it's insulting that he was offered less than half their salary.

  • @chipskylark172
    @chipskylark172 Год назад +13

    Yeah he was definitely needed for the sequel. Not saying the sequel was bad but the dad was one of those small things that made the original great. That goofy laugh that I still mimic today is missed too lol

  • @AdamPFarnsworth
    @AdamPFarnsworth Год назад +2

    I just dont believe him that he was that concerned by the endong of the movie

  • @leonardojensenribeiro7252
    @leonardojensenribeiro7252 Год назад +1

    They did the "replacement" so well I didn't even noticed. So yeah, dont care for it, the movies are awesome and that's it.
    Also he said that the story was bad because of money, but at the same time, wanted more money to do It, crazy right?

  • @rikmichaels9233
    @rikmichaels9233 Год назад +2

    He was one of the intelligent boomers who didn’t want to propaganda as a country on materialism that just spreads hate. The movie fits the Reaganism heat from the 80s that has destroyed all of humanity for decades.

    • @AholeAtheist
      @AholeAtheist Год назад

      Yeah, it's one of my favourite trilogies, but it is too materialistic in some senses.

  • @user-hq1rr4mj3q
    @user-hq1rr4mj3q Год назад +1

    I don’t like BTTF 2 or 3 , and a big reason for that is , Crispín Glover isn’t in them, I love his character on the original movie

  • @bigdingus5359
    @bigdingus5359 Год назад +2

    Hes actually right about the monetary reward thing. Shows that the man really does care about the material.

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 Год назад

    2:53 I don’t agree that the moral of Back to the Future is about money making people happy.
    I think what happened with George is that, by standing up for himself, he was able to gain the confidence that he didn’t have prior. Clearly they aren’t a whole lot more rich in the altered future, after all the adult children still have jobs (they even have better more fulfilling jobs) and they all live in the same house together still. What George’s confidence gave the family was the ability to realize more of their potential. Similar to how Marty changes and outgrows his need to not be a “chicken” in the second film, this ability makes it so his bully (or frenemy or whatever Flea’s character is) has no power of Marty and he’ll have one less barrier to realizing his best self.
    In my opinion Glover probably made up this excuse after the fact to make himself seem less materialistic.

  • @millsyinnz
    @millsyinnz 9 месяцев назад

    The ending of the first movie resulted in the increased confidence and self esteem that McFly snr had after he laid out Tannen and got his girl. I have seen this movie umpteen times over the past 3 decades and that is the thing that I picked up on, not the money. I would love for someone to make a video to discuss how Marty's parents dont seem to recognise him from 1955.

  • @user-tm8jt2py3d
    @user-tm8jt2py3d Год назад

    I took all these movies for granted during this era, I didn't realize what movies would become today

  • @MalefusBlack
    @MalefusBlack Год назад +2

    good video. I learned things

  • @MountaindewM
    @MountaindewM Год назад +4

    It makes me wonder what the original storyline was supposed to be in Part 2 and if Part 3 was changed at all. I do however like how they brought back Harold Ramis in Ghostbusters Afterlife. It was a great sendoff to a guy who meant a lot to some of the other actors.

    • @Rob-z7k
      @Rob-z7k Год назад

      That was aweful....hr didnt even talk

  • @aprilchardy1
    @aprilchardy1 Год назад +4

    Funny how more money was his issue with the script, but wanted more money to act in it.

  • @JerryC25
    @JerryC25 Год назад +1

    It was ingenious working through the challenge putting him upside down so it wasn’t noticed lol

  • @jm-
    @jm- Год назад +1

    This is, I think, the first time I've heard of a situation where AI (in this case, other people) have used a person's likeness without their knowledge or consent

    • @kieragard
      @kieragard 11 месяцев назад

      You are sleeping under a rock. It's been happening. It's just CGI is sometimes so good it's hard to notice.

  • @corbinowens2437
    @corbinowens2437 Год назад +4

    1 thing that’s always bothered me about them replacing him, is that in the 3rd movie they meet the Old West McFlys, but they look like Marty & Lorain.
    When they should be looking like George if anything

  • @BiohazardEXTREME
    @BiohazardEXTREME Год назад

    Back To The Future is one of the greatest trilogies in cinema history, and some of the greatest movies ever on their own merits. It would've been interesting if Crispin Glover had come back because with the original George, the films would have probably been written differently, to incorporate more of him into the story, and probably would have changed the flow and the specifics of the plot of the movie in a big way. But as it is, they're still impeccable and absolutely worthy sequels even with diminishing George McFly's presence.

  • @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety
    @DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Год назад +2

    To the question at the end. Yes & yes.

  • @mddifilippo89
    @mddifilippo89 Год назад +1

    It would had been better if Weissman just replaced Glover OR don't include scenes with George McFly but that would change the entire plot of part 2. I had no idea that Weissman was fighting Biff until recently and behind the door when Marty gets knocked out by himself.

  • @darthvulture
    @darthvulture Год назад

    well this was new for me, thanks for sharing this story.

  • @scittw22
    @scittw22 Год назад +1

    So... he thought the original ending was too materialistic because the family was better off financially but he was demanding more money for the sequels?

  • @SylviaRustyFae
    @SylviaRustyFae Год назад

    5:30 Stuff like this makes it so painfully obvs to me how bad my facial blindness rly is xD Id legit not know those were two diff ppl if not for havin it ptd out.
    The slightly darker hair is like the only visible diff id even notice, and honestly that i cud see comin down to lightin and natural change with age; esp bcuz i can see that Claudia Wells isnt bathed in nearly as much bright light as Elisabeth Shue
    But yeah, even knowin there are key diffs when i rly start to look deep, those are just a blur of small diffs as far as my memory is concerned; and bein aphantastic as i am, i dont actually have visual memory... So i know that makes the facial blindness worse too
    Lookin closely i see diffs in nose shape, head size, eyes entirely, teeth, and eyebrows; but i gotta rly study to see all that and i know that in an hr i wont be able to say for sure which one had which features, unles my brain obsessed over it and even then i dont think id remember each one correctly
    Whereas most other ppl wud be able to say stuff like who has the bigger nostrils, just from their memory if theyve watched stuff with both actresses in it. Even without them ever rly considerin that they actually know that fact; its just there, in the memory banks waitin to be retrieved when prompted
    It scares me sometimes how well such folks, like a friend of mine, can see a person on screen or even hear a voice and go "Oh, i know exactly who that is" even when they, to me, dont at all look like the person they then show me on their phone xD

  • @safebox36
    @safebox36 11 месяцев назад

    My interpretation of the first film's ending was that self-confidence makes for a better life. Not just wealth.

  • @thatdannielle
    @thatdannielle Год назад

    I disagree with him on the ending of the first movie. Yes, they were in a more desirable financial situation but they weren’t exactly rich. Money wasn’t the “reward” it was a product of the ripple effect. Because George stood up to Biff in the past, Biff no longer got credit for George’s work in 1985 and therefore George probably was in a different position with higher pay. He also finally had the courage to publish a novel which most likely included some type of book advance. That might of even been what was used to pay for the new Toyota. To George, finishing the book was his biggest accomplishment and the lesson he wanted to pass down to his kids “If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything.” There are still many similarities between their class status at the beginning and end of the movie including - they still live in the same house and even though Dave now works at an office, he and Linda still live at home.

  • @dustincameron787
    @dustincameron787 Год назад +8

    "Happiness doesn't equal money"
    Also:
    "I want more money."

    • @gregsierra414
      @gregsierra414 Год назад +5

      It sounds like he just wanted to be paid fairly. If you were being paid less than your co-workers doing the same job, would you just say "oh well, it's only money"?

    • @dustincameron787
      @dustincameron787 Год назад +1

      @@gregsierra414 $150 K? For a few weeks of work?
      I'd smile my whole way to the bank.

    • @dustincameron787
      @dustincameron787 Год назад +1

      @@gregsierra414 For $150K? For a couple of weeks of work? I'd smile my entire way to the bank!

  • @MarcusRippedEmOff
    @MarcusRippedEmOff Год назад +1

    i swear i randomly was watching back to the future 2 yesterday and i was wondering why gergoe wasnt in it that much and now your making a video on it😂

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan Год назад +1

    I do wonder why this is so frequently an issue when Jenifer's actress hasn't spoken out either. Growing up I never caught it , but when people see her in back to back viewings on DVD they see it right away.
    I also wonder why are AI and George McFly style moves so bad?
    Dumbledore on Harry Potter had more then one actor
    Every American President has been plaid by a look a like multiple times
    Stan and Ollie and other Biographical films don't use the original actors
    What is the difference between John C. Reilly and the digital Tarkin model? Would you be less mad if Roug one used a live action actor in heavy make up to play Tarkin?
    what about Val Kilmer's replacing of Michael Keaton? Steve Whitmire replacing Jim Henson? Glenn Strange replacing Boris Karloff? Johnny Depp's Ed Wood? jim carrey as andy kaufman? Tom Hanks as basically every one?
    CGI is a tool. One that is had it not been used would have been replaced by make up. These characters would have STILL been in there respective movies.
    CGI is still a mask . a mask worn by Andy Serkis or some one of the like. You can't hold it but it is a form of make up. Ideally done with respect. Not always expected do be respectful Martin Short , or Darrell Hammond has proven impersonation doesn't have to be respectful.
    But I feel CGI is fair game, so is make up. Certain people need to be in certain movie. If some one quits or gets fired or dies they ARE replicable. Some times you are the David Prowse, the Jeremy Bulloch, the Anthony Daniels, the Kenny Baker. Some times you are Brandon Routh or George Clooney. Some times you are Dan Castellaneta or Dave Coulier some times you are Mike Weinberg.
    You NEVER want to be Mike Weinberg.
    This kind of thing happens Its not wrong and some times you should just deal with it rather then start drama
    Space Jam 2 and Forest Gump also used digital actors with no objections and so does all the animal movies and half the little kid movies.

  • @AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging
    @AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging Год назад +3

    Questioning “money = happiness” in the 1980s when thay was the American religion (and now it still is and much more so) is a bold move. Respect for crispin glover he is completely correct. It IS a crassly materialistic, classist, ugly ending that also evades and papers over real human concerns

  • @AllMightyLantern
    @AllMightyLantern Год назад

    I agree that the way they tried to use his likeness was wrong and I’m glad he won the case.
    That being said I strongly disagree with his take on the ending to Back to the Future. Both Marty & George had severe self doubt about what they were passionate about at the start of their arcs, but Doc taught Marty that “If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything”. That’s ultimately the real message of Back to the Future. Marty struggled with that meaning, but then he had to impart that lesson to his father. As a result, George became much more confident in himself, his writing, and his love for Lorraine.
    Now yes, George is also more financially successful in the new timeline. Is there a bit of a “money equals happiness” message in there, yes and there’s NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!
    I personally have a problem with people who say “money can’t buy happiness”. It may not solve every problem, but at the very least it gives us stability & peace of mind. Plus not having money is a waking nightmare. I can’t believe Glover is still of this belief to this day, especially with so many actors & writers fighting for better compensation.

  • @Del_S
    @Del_S Год назад

    7:33: "The digital doubles of today are near perfect" *_Shows the most uncanny valley-ass looking example of 2023_*

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx Год назад +4

    Avengers Endgame and Back To The Future are very similar.

    • @Pokaroquai
      @Pokaroquai Год назад

      the difference is that bttf has better and simpler time travel logic

  • @meno2294
    @meno2294 Год назад

    It's a crazy case to look back on Especially nowadays With all the AI Nowadays

  • @snowpants2212
    @snowpants2212 3 месяца назад

    Glover was totally right about the ending of the first film

  • @regularperson9965
    @regularperson9965 Год назад

    As someone who has constantly been snubbed by furloughs, downsizing, AI automation etc... i hardly shed a tear for rich people dying or celebrities getting their likenesses used for intellectual property they already signed contracts for

  • @thatRyzzle
    @thatRyzzle Год назад

    Isn't the other part of the story surrounding the recasting of C. Glover that the director, producers, and to some extent his co-stars disliked having to work with him? Supposedly, he was being very difficult, always disagreeing with or questioning the direction or the script, and sometimes randomly incorporating weird acting choices for his character because that's what he felt like doing at the time. The crew just grew tired of that and, quite understandably, IMHO, wanted to avoid having to deal with that for the sequels, back to back no less.

  • @JakeTilton
    @JakeTilton Год назад

    New subscriber here…really enjoy your videos!

  • @mrblc882
    @mrblc882 11 месяцев назад

    I never saw ending as money making happiness, more as self confidence makes both, happiness and wealth.
    About lawsuit, it's little bit slippery - on one side, Glover is right, but on other, most of the scenes are no different from scenes made with stunt doubles... I think, if their contract allowed reusing footage in sequel, most of the scenes could pass under common practice used for stunt doubles (same haircut, minor makeup, distant shooting), but some step way over the line, like the floating one or any where he speaks any line.

  • @PureBeauty511
    @PureBeauty511 Год назад

    Why did either of them have to be such sticklers about how much he was going to get paid for the sequels and how the first film ended? I'm all for advocating for oneself but I don't know, someone should've given in at the beginning so the extenuating circumstances didn't have to happen.

  • @idontwantachannelimjustcom7745

    I remember upside down mcfly being mj fox. Mandella strikes again, the back accident was a drag race injury...

  • @franciscobates
    @franciscobates 11 месяцев назад

    I was today years old when I learned that it was a different actor playing George McFly in the sequels

  • @Dahstin5311
    @Dahstin5311 Год назад

    just seeing if any video of why watchmen worked is in the future? If not that what makes Jackie Earle Haley such a memorable actor?

  • @slystone4892
    @slystone4892 Год назад

    Wow very interesting essay I didn’t have idea about all this, but you know the actor is so damn right it was unfair for him and for the actor that replaced him.

  • @DoppelgangerJ
    @DoppelgangerJ 11 месяцев назад

    The whole "money equals happiness" ending that Crispin Glover dislikes requires a more nuanced conversation. In the real world, the idea that money equals happiness can end up being true when you take into consideration someone's material conditions. In Glover's case, when you consider that he wanted to be paid the same as some of his co-stars for the sequels, one can say that money might have meant happiness for him in that moment. I think it's a little bit of both - wealth, required to live with dignity and meet the economic standards acceptable in the eyes of society as it champions an idealized "shining city on a hill" image of itself, and family - that truly makes people happy. While I don't deny the possibility of coming around to accepting one's "new" family, and the movie does make it seem that Marty did, I just think that most people would not abandon the memories of their old family in favor of a new, wealthier one. In a country like America, family and capitalism lie at the core of the ideals which it was founded on, and one cannot exist without the other. Both are the necessities to happiness.

  • @jamielondon6436
    @jamielondon6436 Год назад

    Wow, I had no idea about either change.

  • @vhagerty
    @vhagerty 6 месяцев назад

    I think the ending of BTTF made sense. After George knocked out Biff, he finally had the confidence to write a successful book. His original, cowardly self never would have taken that chance. So, having extra money (notice they still lived in the same middle-class house), makes sense. 😊

  • @DeeDerry
    @DeeDerry Год назад

    I always thought he looked different, I thought maybe he had just aged and so had to use make up to make it work...I never knew the details of how the films where filmed etc...Im with Glover though, he needs to protect his brand and likeness 💯👏🏼

  • @gingerelvis93
    @gingerelvis93 11 месяцев назад

    Man I realize this is off topic, but it's startling that SAG had a strike about this and also turned around and threw Voice Actors under the bus with the whole AI thing

  • @phillip_reynolds
    @phillip_reynolds Год назад

    I love the “BTTF” Trilogy but I don’t think using a double to replace Glover impacts the movies at all.

  • @ShiningEyeBrigade
    @ShiningEyeBrigade Год назад

    I agree with Crispin re: the reward should be love, as it’s a more powerful meaning, and adding money weakens this. Just from a story telling perspective, values aside.

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 Год назад

    I understand Glover's issues with the ending, and it does go a bit too hard on the materialism. Marty getting the truck is just over the top. But at the same time, I do think the film also emphasized that George & Lorraine are in a genuinely loving - and still thirsty! - relationship, and that their happiness has resulted in a more loving and cohesive family.
    OTOH, what's never sat right with me in the ending is that there's is NO WAY a guy who writes pulp scifi novels makes it into the upper class. They could have very plausibly still been living in what's recognizably the same basic home as in the opening, just redressed to be *nicer* without being totally bougie.
    (OTOOH, we're never told what Lorraine does. Maybe she's the real breadwinner!)

  • @rodrigomarcondes5857
    @rodrigomarcondes5857 Год назад

    Don't get me wrong, i grew up watching Back to the Future, it is a beloved movie for me, but i think Crispin has a point here, i kinda agree with him. However this movie was made in the 80s, and in 80s movies, financial success was always depicted as the best kind of character resolution possible, there are exceptions but 80s movies were like that.

  • @whitleypedia
    @whitleypedia Год назад

    You see the Bullets and Blockbusters video from 2days ago??

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 Год назад

    Crispin as George McFly was outstanding.

  • @danielpatrick77
    @danielpatrick77 Год назад

    Honestly...2 doesn't hold up as well... as a kid it was awe inspiring, but over time it's far camper where 1 still is flawless

  • @marvelstarwarsfan8410
    @marvelstarwarsfan8410 Год назад

    This is a very interesting story how it changed the film industry.

  • @richardmahn7589
    @richardmahn7589 Год назад

    Were the McFly's really that much richer at the end of BttF 1? While their house is much better looking inside, it is still the same house! They didn't get a better house, and I'm sure if you even had twice the salary as original George, you'd go to another neighborhood to a better house.
    So I don't think the ending is bad. They aren't that much richer, just better at taking opportunities that suit their skillset.

  • @dwainsimmons3447
    @dwainsimmons3447 Год назад

    Can you do a video on who was regular show actually for?