The Surprising POF P308 [Full Review]
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Patriot Ordnance Factory in TNP! We take a look at another Semi-auto Precision Rifle (SAPR) in the P308. It competes against such players as the S&W M&P10, Daniel Defense DD4V1, KelTec RFB, RRA LAR 308, DPMS LR-308, Live Free Armory 308s, and others. While heavy, the piston driven POF P308 performed amazingly in one shooting dynamic and actually the competition should figure out how it does it and improve their own products (in video). It was exceedingly fun to shoot. Accuracy, features/build, value, SAWC, POU, materials, quality, and firepower are all covered in this Gun Review Video (GRV). It will be compared against the DD V5V1 and a certain question is posed that is answered in the end. Congratulations are in order to POF however as it has put together an excellent .308 AR-10 option that merits your consideration.
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POF has their lightweight "Revolution" series coming out, 6.75lbs!
If I had the cash, I would take the POF. Just for 2nd kind of cool. Also I saw a reliability video , where they tried to get it to have a melt down. It was a POF 416. It passed a thousand rounds non stop. So I figure they make quality firearms.
Nutnheavy project
Chris Klontz Flawless victory.
POF in TNP! I'll start us off with a .308 chambering. In some ways the P308 was amazing in another, not so much. I still like though. POF has improved a lot. -nutnfancy
nutnfancy, it could be the roller cam pin. I use them in my bcgs for all my builds. Smooths the action out
nutnfancy do you think you could review some of Mark Serbu's 50cals? RN-50 or BFG-50A? Maybe even the new uppers he has built aka SU-15 short receivers.
www.serbu.com/bfg-50a-semi-auto-50-bmg.html
nutnfancy, I'm very happy to see this vid. I remember when I was starting my first home build and the POF came out and I was weighing the options of what to go for. I think I made the right choice (my CMMG Mk3 18" is a beast!)
Can you separate out the AR.308 videos into different playlist
Nutnfancy: Are we going to get a POF P300 review when that comes out? You don't do a lot of large caliber or magnum rifles; maybe you could throw in a couple of reviews. If not the P300, maybe the Nemo Omen or the Falkor Petra? Maybe even get in an MRAD in .300 WM or .338 Lap, and/or a DT HTI. I'm sure we'd all appreciate a long, in depth review on a gun like that, especially if the manufacturers are asking a $5K and up price.
The pof after iraqveteran8888 kick the shit out of one in 5.56 in a meltdown video and it just laughed at him and just rocked !
6.15 lbs is the new POF "Revolution" in 308! To be released early next year. I have met the POF owner and toured their factory... good things coming from good people. Another fair review, I enjoyed it.
POF all day long. Short stroke piston has proven itself superior in long term reliability.
I've seen that 308 P.O.F run on full auto reliable I would go with the P.O.F
From a POF owner and enthusiast, don't call it a Pawph!
Hallelujah! Another nutn video, I've been craving a new video so badly you could've reviewed toilet paper and I would be excited.
That video would go on for daaaaays.
The in-field testing footage would be... extensive...
+Ryan Butler POU toilet tissue. 3 ply second kind of cool
good overview (y)
I've never in my life heard someone pronounce POF like it was a 3 letter word. Dude, it's Pee Oh Eff. lol Wow, that was annoying af. And you don't do that with any of the other MANY acronyms you use on this channel on a daily basis. lol But all of a sudden, we're Pawf'n it. lol wtf
OmniDragon You mean acronyms like SAPR ( sapper), that he used in this video?
OmniDragon You mean like the "Eff-Nar" (FN AR)?
OmniDragon Do you say POTUS or P O T U S? Would you say FUBAR or F U B A R? Is it Bat-Fe or B A T F E? Is it NATO or N A T O? I could go on and provide other examples, but I've made my point. You're making a senseless distinction and it's silly to call Nutn out for pronouncing an acronym phonetically as though no one ever does it.
OmniDragon Dude, lots of people say POTUS and you know this because you are familiar with the term. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives begs to differ with you, too. I just showed you how to pronounce it: "bat-fee." I like how you ignored
FUBAR, too.
Just because you don't phonetically pronounce POF doesn't mean it's wrong to do so.
OmniDragon You must be new to youtube. A lot of people say BATFE since the bureau changed it's name from ATF to BATFE to include explosives. People know what you mean if you say ATF, but that's not the correct name anymore. Just because you're clueless doesn't mean I'm wrong.
Oh, forgot to add, I can name more ancronyms that people pronounce phonetically. If more will get you to admit this is a senseless issue, I'll provide more. Plenty of acronyms out there.
Nutnfancy love your videos, do you think you will ever make a review on the DS arms SA58 FAL
I would like it, problem is, Nuttn hates the FAL platform, same with most AKs just because of how heavy they are. I like them though, they look badass.
yes for FAL
Hey Nutn, love your channel, long time follower. I own both the POF and the M&P 10. The POF is more of a competition rifle, and M&P more battle appropriate. The M&P is less fussy about loads, but when I feed the POF with the loads it likes, it out shoots the M&P. If I had to choose based off my preference of a precision competition ready semi or recreation, I'd choose POF (plus 2nd cool for me, it's like a Ferrari, it's gorgeous). That said, I agree with your assessment and would say the M&P could fill a variety of roles with a variety of ammo better.
Your vote makes a difference. Get out and vote! Go Trump 2016!
You sir are an idiot...
yeah, definitly vote..escpecially if you care about protecting 2A
A few months ago he goes to a Trump rally. He said he was pro Cruz, but would vote Trump if necessary
Thanks for the firearm review! Please bring back the "run and gun" format from back in the day. That's your niche, IMO.
Economics plays a BIG part of EVERYTHING I purchase. For preparedness, I struggle to find the best compromise between 'what's the best' & 'what can I afford' Your videos are extremely helpful to that end. Having said that, I still prefer the S&W MP10. Although, I'll likely go to a SA Axis XP II first; then the MP10
you'd like the p308, cause it freaking runs
id take the pof
Soooo you bashed horribly the DD5 in the other video and you loved almos everything about the P308 but the weight and some accuracy issues... But you're going for the DD5...??? Man are you ok or you hit your head out there...??? final thoughts, POF is heavy but its better gun hands down...!!!
That POF looks hot, like the oh-so-sexy FN FAL... love it!
It's not a "POF" it's pronounced " P.O.F. "
Anyone else want to see a Desert Eagle review?
Thanks again for another excellent unbiased review. I have a good friend that swears by his M&P 10. I'm confident that will be my next purchase.
I have 4 POF rifles P308,P415, warhog, and renegade+. I don't regret any of the purchases at all, well over 2000 rounds through each
Nutn, please review the Windham Armory AR-10, it seems like a hell of a rifle for $1200.
Always loved POF's!
I would love to see an ar10 shootout
Video has been up for 8 minutes, the video is 32 minutes long, and there is already a dislike. Gotta love the internet.
VenDeath it's a millennial and their 3:47 attention span.
thats a man's rifle. fuck a weight constraint haha
I like the 25-35 min. feature length vids,... any longer and its a lil too long IMO,... As for which gun I think Id try in 7.62x51/.308 so far,.. would be a custom gun built off a DPMS GII receiver group and bolt carrier group. Those can easily get down to the 7.5 lb range.... The M&P10 is nice too IMO... w/18"bbl too
Thanks for the input on the video length...that's exactly what I'm shooting for these days. I will rip thru such things as POU and competitive options to reach that, all covered lots in other vids. Yep M&P10 is sick, nice build plans you have. -nutnfancy
I don't understand why some people want less information!? Plz tell me everything you've learned about a rifle/test item. No one is forcing people to watch the entire vid in one sitting anyway. Awesome review!
If you're looking for a lightweight ar 15 look into the rebel arms renegade mod II. I would love to see a review on that gun. it comes in at 5lbs 6 ounces.
I run 168 grain Sierra match king gold medal match through both of my POF .308 can easily get 1.5 MOA
When are you going to review the MOE dpms G2? it's apparently like 7.25 pounds and really reliable. only $1200 as well.
id choose the POF cause that DD has issues... i watched the video on it and wasnt impressed in the slightest
At that price, why not go with the SCAR 17?
OK dude ... you got it ... subbed. Here's the thing, many of the other gun channels I watch for entertainment, you, I watch for information. That's not to say that I agree with everything, but you are one of the very few who actually take the things you review and USE them.
"I just don't need a buncha' shit on my gun..." Awesome. Hahahah
I'm a fan of your reviews so the longer and more details, the better... Great review as always
I like the P308 more. I like reliability it offers as a gas piston AR. I also want the puritan AR in 7.62x39mm.
I'd liketo see someone do an overpenetration test. Get some thin aluminium C section and build a makeshift wall truss. get some seconds drywall and tek screw it into that to make a pretend wall. maybe put a course of bricks in front of it , dont even need to use quickset if you dont want to. find some building being ripped down and see if you can get some windows in frames out of a skip or a sliding door or window. make another wood frame say 15ft behind that and put drywall on either side. and then put some sheets of chipboard or plywood another 30 feet back as your final test barrier. you dont have to do this in house size. but you can place ballistics gel targets in front of the makebelieve 'house'and fire through them with various calibers as if you are in an urban self defence scenario (each shot must go through a gel figure or block). You could put random items like old tube tvs inside the 'house', maybe dolls in cots for example. You could even have a vehicle in front of the 'house'or you have to shoot a ballistics gel person inside it.I've just never seen anybody do this kind of overpenetration test and it could yield real life data for people who are carrying daily and are curious / concerned about round travel if they were to get into a real life firearm self defence scenario.This may sound vague, but I'm sure there are people who understand what I mean / can expand on this / make extra recommendations. Peace.
shoominati23 there are tons of them on youtube
shoominati23 "know your target and what lies beyond" over penetration becomes a non issue
Nutn, you should put together a montage of the Summer of Fail with footage of all the mishaps and various issues on the guns.
hey nutn your watch is upside-down
Great review! PTR 91 next??
yes please!
He'd hate it, too heavy for him.
But for $1k and it eating everything you throw in it, I think it's a fair trade off.
Even if he shits all over it. I want that review.
Erik Nilsen Yup.
Can you just review something without banal commentary for once? Your videos are too long. And it is because 90% of the time you are saying nothing, yet words are coming out of your mouth.
Go somewhere else then. Most of us dig his style.
+MudВuтт's Pratfall Disaster These guys get it. If all you want is the specs and measurements, why have someone read them off to you? Why go for videos at all of you're trying to do quick research anyway? RUclips gun content is more about enjoyable, laid back thematic programming, and less about a barebones purchase walkthrough. -TD
Yeah, some people have ADHD. I feel sorry for them. Too bad.
Hey nutn, I've got an fal dsa58 you should consider reviewing
I have been waiting and waiting for the perfect .308 semi auto gun. This is for sure going on the list. LMT, LWRC, DPMS, POF, SCAR17 are just a few im considering.
Oh, and my own DI 308 build.
Brad Vlogs I've been looking at 308 battle rifles and I'm sold on the ptr 91. HK G3 clone with some upgrades like 18 inch barrel and a rail. 1200 bucks.
Check out AREO Precision M5. I have one and it has worked great for me. 20'' Melonite DI. Moa gun or better
Brad Vlogs the perfect 308 is the scar 17
Wade Hughes
Thanks, i have not heard of the AERO M5.
i like the roller cam pin. if i had some disposable income id ad a bcg with one installed. i handled a build with that installed, jp silent capture spring setup (not sure if that helped also) but it felt super smooth.
I w0uld buy three PTR 91's bef0re I b0ught either 0f these
I'd love to get into an AR-10 but dang! $2,800 for this? I'll stick to what seems to always come out on top at a more achievable price, the S&W M&P 10.
Try a PTR-91. They have a scope rail, paddle mag release, and metal lower. They are also the lightest and most accurate of the proven 308 battle rifles
my Gen 1 dpms lr 308 L( the same gun hoisted by doodle at shot show 2012 ) 18" barrel, CF handguard, Miculek compensator ( it's awesome! ) 10lbs 9oz without bipod kind of heavy it shoots great still no problems and the gun is 8 years old still chucks through wolf with no jams ! I paid $900 for it and I'm so happy I did, shoots like a AR-15 except for the weight! good thing I'm in shape 👍😉
uff da. You had me up until $2800 dollars. Can't swing that. I don't know why .308 rifles are so pricey. But that's what keeps the old G3 around. It has issues, but it didn't cost an arm and a leg.
FunWithTheGun did a review of the POF P308 and reported the same accuracy issues as you did. The contacted POF and were instructed to torque the rail screws to 21in/lb. Go to 15:45 of their video they describe the accuracy issue and their conversation when calling POF.
Nutn, thank you for the high quality content it is appreciated. The only concern I have is that no matter what you are reviewing I think I need to purchase the item. I may have to go to nutnfancy anonymous to help with sickness. My bank account and marriage won't last if I don't get help.
Can I send you my REPR to review?
Croiky - you should make a separate video where you beg for subscriptions, then keep it out of your vids, and just link to it during your vids. Great to have you back!
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POF P308 vs. Springfield MIA Scout Squad?
Hey Nutn, diggin the videos man. Doing my best to keep up with them. Really looking forward the stuff, coming down the pipe. Keep it up.
im a pof guy through and through
Hey Nutnfancy how about a review on the TT33 it is pretty famous in my country Pakistan
Nick Sial I got a Romanian TT33 Tokerav, made in 1953, purchased it for $200 USD. The thing is a cannon, doesn't have much recoil, is very accurate and turns heads at the range when shot.
I love the 7.62x25 Tokerav round it fires, it will even make short work of Kevlar. I only wish they made a modern, double stack pistol in this round.
I like a 20 inch barrel 308 however there is not too many out of the box options for that. So i built one using mostly Aero Precision components and the weight came to 10.5 pounds with a optic. 308 components are just heavy overall.
POF makes a P308 with a 20" barrel from the factory
20" barrels are cool too but as you note, much heaviness ensues -nutnfancy
nutnfancy. Hey I have been looking at a armalite m-15 ltc. I was wondering if you knew anything about it and if you do is it worth buying
Dude, Im caught up start posting!
I shattered my MacBook Pro so no vids this weekend, posted two today. As soon as the views get to 50K, 2 more post. -nutnfancy
That sucks man, maybe get a macbook pro review out of it. The summer of fails continues!
Damn $2800? That's out of my price range but they are sick!
I get jealous every time I see the land your shooting on. I wish I had something like that where I am.
I'd take the POF just watch IV8888's meltdown video.
ah. something to watch breakfast/lunch to. and nutn said 2 swears. it must be serious.
Bought a trigger from them and it was a total failure. Two different guns I put it into and it would still go on safe after firing. Contacted them they sent me a new one and it had the same problem. Never again will I buy their junk.
Ive had two of their triggers for a long time. No problems
proud POF p415 owner here! thanks for being honest though.
I loved the accuracy of my POF, I had the 5.56 version, but I am with you on weight. That is why I ended up selling it.
Love the POF -
Hey Nutn thanks for another solid review, I always appreciate your content. Given the price point of the DD and the POF, I'd love to see you review a GA Precision GAP 10. It's comparable in price and GA seems to have built a good rep with its rifles. I think you'd also enjoy that it's available in various lengths from 16.5 to 22", and comes standard with stainless Bartlein barrel and a Geissele 2-stage. keep up the great work dude.
I'll be getting the M&P 10! Thanks!
which one nutn POF .308 or your old tac-20 ???
Nutnfancy I hear good things about the DPMS gen 2's. Would love to get your review of them.
still think the DPMS 308 gen 2 is the best AR10, not only for price, but reliability! ..... and as for how u said the DD is prob fixable, yea maybe, but I have seen lots of bad reports on the DD 308, company's and people alike, just don't understand making a gas 308 (AR10) is not a easy project.. I'd take the POF308 over the DD.. but like I said in the beginning, the DPMS is the way to go!
Appreciate the vid. 3 out of 5? Have any 308's received 4 out of 5 yet? Thanks. Edit...I wonder how the Wilson Combat 308 would handle steel ammo??
hey nutn is there a cz 805 bren review coming down the pipeline?
it seems like to me that a lot of these guys are searching for a solution that already exists. I say this since everyone is trying to find an accurate, reliable, and affordable 308 platform. Guys will spend thousands of dollars on unproven systems. Have they never heard of the FAL or G3? Combined they have been used by 200 countries! I mean sure they're old but I'd bet almost anything that a g3 will run more reliably and a fal will take way more abuse. Sure their heavy but you can lighten them up pretty easily.
Were you wearing that watch upside-down?
I believe so
I appreciate the efforts that you and all those assisting with the production of TNP make in bringing all the great reviews to the channel. Keep up the great work!
I Absolutely hate POF because of 2 Kind of cool reasons mostly. rails are still too high and heavy. Just look at how little the DD5 is compared to the POF. I hate it and just can't ever like it. Honest review though
When will we see a video on the presidential election since its tomorrow?
Monica Lewinsky I've been wondering why he hasn't done a call to action. Its more important now than it was even in 2012.
forehead949 I agree. I will be very disappointed if I don't see a video tonight. This election means everything..
he's still bitter cruz got smoked in the primaries, go look at his Twitter feed. he's half a step away from jumping on the never trump train; I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he voted for McMullin.
David Burke haha I know several who are. Cruz wouldn't be drawing 25 thousand people to his rallies. Hopefully nutn snaps out of it and addresses it tonight like he did in 2008 and 2012.
The election is important. Trump
Is the first fascist to be nominated by an American political party in my lifetime. His candidacy, focused on dark conspiracies by "international bankers" and "media elites" with names like Yellen, Soros and Blumenthal, sounds like David Duke and is the kind of thinking that led to to Holocaust
I'm sorry what? I was checking out the sweet rocknroll segments, huh? Tungsten yeah, burnt bronze nice, ratatatatat. Isn't heavy good for most of us who cannot shoot as well as you? Love the channel and Glawk pistols because of it.
spending that much money on a rifle that isn't super accurate doesn't make that much sense.
Preaching to the choir, I know, but this gun could weigh 20 pounds and people would still buy it. The majority of people who buy these guns use them for range toys and ego inflators.
well the pof obviously since the DD5 doesn't run. personally I'd say scrap both these and grab an M&P10
FNAR has very limited availability these days and mags are stupid expensive. FN really pushes the SCAR now.
So if my buying pof gun why in the wide wide world would I get a 5.56 gun when for roughly 500 dollars more I can get a 308
ps I stopped buying ruger and smith for a long time because of all the warnings and telling me to read the owners manual. so stupid. yeah guns are dangerous, no, I can't read.
I have the P308 Old School DI not piston. Quality rifle...
"I just don't need a buncha' shit on my gun..." Awesome. Hahahah
Not that it matters, but opening scene your scope is mounted backwards in the mount. Nice review though
Please don't review the LAR-308. I like the price point where it is.
So basics of RUclips, writing a good description helps with SEO, i.e. search results. Also the more regularly you upload, i.e. consistently posting 2, 3, 4 videos a week, will also drive views and subs. All of this has been discussed at length in forums and videos, just a basic Google search will point you to them.
Rumblestrip.NET So what are you saying? If you don't wanna watch it, don't watch it.
No, what I'm saying is Nutn is always bitching about view counts for years, and for years he doesn't follow best practices. Please upgrade your reading comprehension skills and follow ready, aim, fire, not fire, ready, aim.
Your original comment does not suggest anything about Nutn "bitching about view counts". Maybe you should just not watch him and stick to your car reviews? 🤔
You're missing screws on the cantilever mount on the POF.
Jeez that's pricey. For that much money, no way in hell I'd buy either of those over the scar 17s.
Hunter Carney scar h uses special mags, this doesn't.. it takes standard triggers, like the bfs from fostech, or an ssa, so yes the scar is awesome but this is a more modular platform that uses more plentiful parts..
PureCountryof91 not with an xproducts lower. It'll take any ar10 mags. And a guissle super scar trigger is better than any trigger you can put in the POF. Plus it's lighter weight. A lot lighter. More ergonomic, and I'd bet it's also more accurate.
What are your thought on the colt LE6920
Cooldibs all ar15s are the same anymore around the 1000 dollar range perform the same task. I have a colt 6940 and it works just fine.
don't compare its weight and price against a rifle. with its full auto capability and high rounds durability, compare it to a MK48 or the HCAR. its probably closer to an squad auto rifle or lmg than a personal rifle
mk48 is 18lbs, an hcar is like 12lbs. an rpk is around 11