The Cursed Development of Carmageddon | The Stuff of Legends

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @DanGamingFan2406
    @DanGamingFan2406 Год назад +335

    I love how every obstacle was taken in stride. Every bug, glotch, and bit of government interference only served to make the game even more fun and memorable. If only more developers embraced faliure like this.

    • @watershipup7101
      @watershipup7101 Год назад +2

      Agreed

    • @voidstrider801
      @voidstrider801 Год назад +8

      The development of Carmaggedon could be summed up as stumbling ass backwards into success by making the best of bad situations and refusing to give up. Truly an inspiring series of unfortunate events.

    • @Infinite_Archive
      @Infinite_Archive Год назад +12

      Glotch.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Год назад +2

      Passion,drive,talent, the ingredients that are rarely found these day's in the AAA space

    • @bronsonjohnson9019
      @bronsonjohnson9019 Год назад +3

      @@Infinite_Archivethat’s what I call it when my underwear doesn’t perform as intended.

  • @artyomloukashov636
    @artyomloukashov636 Год назад +45

    Carmageddon 1 and 2 were masterpieces. The freedom of playstyle, a precise blend of physics and arcade that dialed the fun of racing to 11, tons of cards with distinct personalities, game mechanics and design that encouraged recklessness and creativity, memorable maps filled with discoveries, and all that to the tune of a killer soundtrack. One needs to be a real pedestrian to not love Carmageddon.

  • @nin10doadict
    @nin10doadict Год назад +113

    I loved that when the programming started to break they literally said "It's not a bug, it's a feature"

    • @Daniel-yy3ty
      @Daniel-yy3ty Год назад +5

      I mean... Making the collisions more fun and the slaughtering easier is a feature in a game about crashing into cars and running over people and cows 🤣

  • @marshp2749
    @marshp2749 Год назад +3

    LoL 1) it's called the Isle of Wight. Isle isn't an abbreviation. 2) It is a prison island, sorta. It has 4 prisons on a tiny island, (I used to sometimes work in them) including one special one for prisoners not tolerated in the general populations of other prisons.

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunner Год назад +138

    These are always interesting stories, and the framing device of bedtime stories for the imps is the icing on the cake, so good

  • @bird3713
    @bird3713 Год назад +180

    I loved this game - never completed a race by finishing laps, you always just eliminate the opposing racers!

    • @SNOWDUDE13
      @SNOWDUDE13 Год назад +12

      It's why it's so satisfying to actually complete a race, because the ai can't.
      Even harder is trying to annihilate all the peds. Yikes.

    • @ubertoaster99
      @ubertoaster99 Год назад +5

      Did all three methods (once!), but 99% of wins were destroying opponents! Peds can be all killed if you use Stella Stunna's car and find a pedestrian respawn power up. You just need to kill the original population (in numbers).

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 Год назад

      same, but I didn't always eliminate all racers because at the beginning it was too hard until you got better cars, so sometimes I would win by killing all pedestrians instead LOL

    • @Phuxake1
      @Phuxake1 Год назад

      That was the way I always did it too… why has there never been a destruction derby battle royale game? Opponent elimination was so fun, surely that idea would be a success.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 Год назад

      @@Phuxake1 there was... it was literally called destruction derby.

  • @Denizu
    @Denizu Год назад +54

    Whatever gears loosened in Tony Taylor, he's a bloody legend for his development effort. What a man!

  • @yozlet
    @yozlet Год назад +1

    Carmageddon's "Fox and Hounds" multiplayer mode is still the best LAN game I've ever played. I was part of a team working on "Starship Titanic" at the time, and we were mostly powered by games of Carmageddon F&H and Mario Kart 64.

  • @davidjames1068
    @davidjames1068 Год назад +5

    Pedantic mode on : it's always called the Isle of Wright.

  • @JennFaeAge
    @JennFaeAge Год назад +21

    As someone actually from the Isle of Wight that description is...both accurate but also wrong (for instance we have a pretty amazing music festival once a year).
    Also, the only Stainless game most people would know other than these games is a few Magic: The Gathering games. I'm aware that's quite the combination

    • @tristanwegner
      @tristanwegner Год назад +3

      "We have something great ONCE a YEAR" is not a great defense against being called boring

    • @guus19900
      @guus19900 Год назад +1

      ​@@tristanwegner It's more than a lot of other rural areas have.

    • @kyledavidson8712
      @kyledavidson8712 4 дня назад

      Miles Davis' set from 1970 there is legendary in some circles.

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 Год назад +4

    Holy shit, releasing a patch to go over the censorship is brilliant

  • @paulgregg04
    @paulgregg04 Год назад +9

    "When one door closes, another one is broken down by a souped-up C3 Corvette" is brilliant!

  • @hardwire666too
    @hardwire666too Год назад +3

    A little disapointed that you left out how the bulk of the soundtrack to the game was also a decent portion of the tracks from Fear Factorys 2nd album Demanufacture, sans vocals. A rare find for any fan of the band, and was my first exsposure to them. Didn't find out who they were till much later when freind picked up the sountrack and I recognized the song and I told him "Oh boy do I have a treat for you!".

  • @aegis12314
    @aegis12314 Год назад +2

    As a southern brit, i am simply apopleptic that you referred to the Isle of Wight as the "island of Wight"

  • @hailmuffins6934
    @hailmuffins6934 Год назад +56

    Holy shit, Carmageddon is way before my time, but now I feel like checking it out just out of respect for the sheer balls on this team!

    • @elijahthompson1120
      @elijahthompson1120 Год назад +7

      I played the game for the first time a few years ago (because my grandma recommended it to me lol) and I have to say it was still a lot of fun.

    • @Herrikias
      @Herrikias Год назад +11

      @@elijahthompson1120 Your grandmother is an upstanding woman of refined tastes. Ask her for more recommendations.

    • @ayebraine
      @ayebraine Год назад +3

      I tried to play the sequels, but it's not the same. They're early 3D airy, angular paper crafts affairs. The original somehow managed to be ultra heavy, solid, and crunchy like nothing else. And a soundtrack by Fear Factory to boot. I was a kid back then, and I feel like I never finished a race once in the proper way (not that the game pressures you to). I still played endlessly. It's that sandbox-y.

    • @MediaMunkee
      @MediaMunkee Год назад

      Just make sure you get your hands on the original DOS version. The console ports didn't make it across the finish line quite so smoothly.

    • @AXIDNT66
      @AXIDNT66 Год назад +2

      Carmageddon 2 is pretty cool too. While a bit of the edge was taken away by it not being the first title/experience, it was one of the first vehicle games I can remember that had such extensive damage, as you could lose body parts, bend frames, and even cut cars in half. It also went over the top with even bigger maps and more cars and stuff.
      Carmageddon 3 is crap though, and the team prefer to pretend it doesn't exist apparently. I don't remember the story exactly, something with the IP being taken and used without the original studio or something.

  • @Mr_Muda_Himself
    @Mr_Muda_Himself Год назад +61

    This game’s development is the embodiment of "limitations breeds creativity"

  • @ronjohnson6916
    @ronjohnson6916 Год назад +7

    This took what had already been a "don't miss" to near the top of my list of favorite channels. Keep up the great work on the weird and wonderful.

  • @cool_guy69420
    @cool_guy69420 Год назад +51

    It's actually interesting how one can go from a licensed game to an entirely different game in the matter of years.

  • @muriellemermaid
    @muriellemermaid Год назад +4

    I love how many of the Adventure is Nigh side charters show up in this

  • @Ryukachoo
    @Ryukachoo Год назад +1

    2:12
    Its rare to see my car in videos but a treat when it happens
    Actually it appears so much in this video i wonder if its the script writer's favorite car

  • @derekcline950
    @derekcline950 Год назад +1

    So I discovered Frost through the RUclips algorithm. I do love Zero Punctuation. Like most, I love Frost's voice. The more I listen to various media, including consuming all Cold Takes (they're great!), I have to say... the voice is impressive but not why I'm mesmerized. His words are poetic. They're a sort of low key sing-song incantation of ascethically high brow words. There is poetry in those spoken words. I feel comfort, I feel at ease while listening to his every soliloquy, simultaneously feeling more intelligent for having listened. And that smooth baritone voice

  • @grahamwalker2168
    @grahamwalker2168 Год назад +6

    Haha. The isle of wight. Not Island.

  • @BlakeTheDrake
    @BlakeTheDrake Год назад +2

    I remember it, all right... it even got a sequel, as I recall, and I genuinely ain't sure which of them I actually played the most. I think it was the second one? I mostly just remember that you could unlock new cars by smashing them in a particular way - you had to sideswipe them so you killed the driver without blowing the car up altogether - and all the weird and wonderful vehicles had weird and wonderful first-person views of their cabin. My favorite was the car/WWII aircraft/mole-machine combo with the giant drill on the front. If you're gonna ram someone at 88 mph, you may as well do it in Gurren-Lagann style!

  • @TheNN
    @TheNN Год назад +4

    I really hope this series goes over the World 111 Massacre in Runescape one day. Truly a day that lived on infamy in that game back in the day.

  • @stpirate89
    @stpirate89 Год назад +14

    The Island of Wight, lol

  • @CornishCreamtea07
    @CornishCreamtea07 Год назад +2

    You forgot to mention how this caused there to be a rating system created for video games. They weren't required to to have a BFI certificate, they just tried getting one so they could slap an 18 rating on the box.

  • @dalamusulom6660
    @dalamusulom6660 Год назад +5

    Would love to hear you tell the turbulent history of Troika Games. One of my favorite wild rides in Video Game History.

  • @andrewhickinbottom1051
    @andrewhickinbottom1051 Год назад +20

    That was great! I played the heck out of this and it's sequel on PC back in the day!

  • @the_ttr
    @the_ttr Год назад +2

    "Son of a b..." (Splat)
    ah... childhood memories.
    And I totally forgot about Tony Taylors' story to it. Also, when cops showed up when they where shooting his stunt, he aparently decided to run away from them but he miss-vaulted over squad car.

  • @R4yj4ck
    @R4yj4ck Год назад +2

    Imagine you're constantly falling forward and just barely catching yourself in time like "I've gotta make this game run soon or we're burnt." and in comes your FUCKIN MATH TEACHER

  • @micahwest3566
    @micahwest3566 Год назад +3

    I would love to hear the story of the ill-fated Dwarf Fortress of Boatmurdered! One of my absolute favorites, and with Dwarf Fortress’ recent Steam release it could use some press attention!

  • @Tzilandi
    @Tzilandi Год назад +1

    If you want to talk about something a bit different, how about Magnasanti, the most dystopian Sim City ever built?

  • @LordRefa
    @LordRefa Год назад +19

    Loved this game so much when it came out.

  • @rbdriftin
    @rbdriftin Год назад +1

    One of my favourite childhood memories was playing the demo over and over. Brilliant game back then, sheer joyful carnage.

  • @RedUmbre
    @RedUmbre Год назад +14

    I love this series and how it builds on the style of zero punctuation

  • @SnowDemonAkuma
    @SnowDemonAkuma Год назад

    It's the Isle of Wight, not the Island of Wight, thank you very much.
    Love, an Isle of Wight native who's just happy to have their island of origin mentioned~

  • @gamertrojan4038
    @gamertrojan4038 Год назад +2

    Ah yes I remember this game and it's sequel. Very well covered and finally it gets its moment to shine in history.

  • @FreedomFighterEx
    @FreedomFighterEx Год назад +31

    They actually turned bugs into features while Bethesda claimed bugs are features.

    • @ayebraine
      @ayebraine Год назад +5

      Come on, the Bethesda-bugs thing is lowbrow by now, Bethesda is the only company who made 3D RPGs with such level of persistent simulation and modularity, and they actually worked flawlessly (actually keeping all objects in the entire game physically persistent at any point in time). They kept making it, and people kept criticizing them for it, despite the fact that nobody else ever did that, ever. With what they did, the bug count was always miraculously low. (Also, personal anecdotes mean little, but I never encountered major bugs in Bethesda Creation games; maybe it's the console ports at fault?).

    • @MediaMunkee
      @MediaMunkee Год назад +2

      @@ayebraine Shitting on Bethesda is gonna be back in vogue for a while now that Starfield is out and is, as ever, a Bethesda Game(TM).

  • @kyledavidson8712
    @kyledavidson8712 4 дня назад

    00:59 Who else heard those snubnose pops and saw the soda jugs explode in their minds?
    RIP Mr. Harrell you are dearly missed ❤

  • @tomclancy102
    @tomclancy102 Год назад +3

    This series is amazing. Never run out of stories!

  • @FrabascooSauce
    @FrabascooSauce Год назад +5

    another banger video in this series. Its like when your favorite teacher in school tangents and tells you about something that they definitely shouldnt

  •  Год назад +1

    Rarely does a combination of two words bring as much dread as amateur stuntman.

  • @lapislarka
    @lapislarka Год назад

    I just love this "imp babysitting" premise. I'm always looking forward to that beginning snippet.

  • @Technobabylon
    @Technobabylon Год назад

    Funnily enough, the Isle of Wight *is* used for holding prisoners. For such a tiny place, two of the UK's largest and most secure prisons, HMP Parkhurst and HMP Albany, are located there (along with the former Camp Hill prison)

  • @applesthehero
    @applesthehero Год назад +1

    It is not called the island of white, it's the Isle of Wight

  • @edwardnewtonLA
    @edwardnewtonLA Год назад +1

    "Be wary of a man with two first names that does his own stunts."

  • @lukerazor1
    @lukerazor1 Год назад

    I'm loving this "Stuff of Legends" series, and the framing device is genius.

  • @croman2000
    @croman2000 Год назад

    Massive respect for not using the same old: "it's not a bug, its a feature" EA meme when you were referring to redesigning the game around bugs ;)

  • @AstralPhnx
    @AstralPhnx Год назад +1

    6:03 AAA DIGITAL BUG RHINOCEBUS JUMPSCARE

  • @chezwizard
    @chezwizard Год назад +1

    "when life gives you lemons, freeze'em and throw'em through the windshield. that's the Carmageddon way"

  • @L0opyProductions
    @L0opyProductions 2 месяца назад

    One of my early childhood memories involves my uncle letting 4 y/o me play Carmageddon on his Windows 98 pc. He helped me by collecting time bonuses so I could drive and explore the open world

  • @nedsanders6394
    @nedsanders6394 Год назад +8

    I genuinely can't figure out if calling it 'The Island of White' was a mistake or a subtle joke designed to annoy specifically me.

  • @stoney5137
    @stoney5137 Год назад +40

    The making of this game was a true "cunning stunt"

    • @sdmarais633
      @sdmarais633 Год назад +1

      We always swapped the first letters - teens are easily amused😅

    • @stoney5137
      @stoney5137 Год назад +1

      @@sdmarais633 This joke has stuck with me forever.

  • @lineikatabs
    @lineikatabs Год назад

    One of my fav games on my first PC! Such a bless. Thank you for the nostalgia trip.

  • @magdovus
    @magdovus Год назад

    The hilarity of this is that the Isle of Wight (it is Isle, not Island) does happen to have a high-security prison. And is still way chill.

  • @danp4998
    @danp4998 Год назад

    The late 80s and 90s has so many amazing stories of almost guriella game development, turning obstacles into benefits and inventing concepts on the fly

  • @ayebraine
    @ayebraine Год назад +1

    I'm officially a fan. What a tight script! Sends shivers down my professional spine

  • @b4cktr4k24
    @b4cktr4k24 Год назад

    Great stuff, I'm loving this series! How about a little bit on Postal? I seem to remember everyone their outrage pumping over that one...

  • @jesseeheilbronn4958
    @jesseeheilbronn4958 Год назад +1

    Carmageddon and Conkers Bad Fur Day are my personal favourite games of the 90s. I feel like there has to be a Stuff of Legends about that foul-mouthed Red Squirrel. "Conkers" is the best game on N64, possibly ever (I'm clearly blinded by nostalgia), and it just doesn't get enough love.

  • @Raida7
    @Raida7 Год назад

    1:24 that top hat wearing skeleton game developer is awesome! hope to see 'em again

  • @jony6092
    @jony6092 Год назад +1

    "Island of Wight" xD

  • @embracethejank
    @embracethejank Год назад +3

    When life gives you 'carma', make Carmageddon

  • @markhackett2302
    @markhackett2302 Год назад +1

    The head of marketing for the studio thought red cars were faster, because they had a red ferrari and it was fast, so there.
    I tried to get the rumour that blue was faster, because blue has a higher frequency than red.

  • @meapickle
    @meapickle Год назад +1

    Love the sigmar and mortimer dolls in the room

  • @axelprino
    @axelprino Год назад

    Had no clue this game was meant to be a tie-in for a movie that never was.
    I'm really liking this series so far, a bunch of info I wasn't aware of and the whole thing just exudes character.

  • @Niandra
    @Niandra Год назад +1

    this was great!

  • @Canadamus_Prime
    @Canadamus_Prime Год назад +3

    I had no idea that game had such an interesting history.

  • @Starduckvalley
    @Starduckvalley Год назад

    First series ive ever been happy to see new episodes of besides ZP on escapist. Like it!

  • @TheScotsmanTechReview
    @TheScotsmanTechReview Год назад +1

    I miss Carmageddon so much I'd kill for. switch port

  • @LahtariFIN
    @LahtariFIN Год назад +1

    Never played it, but I do remember Carmageddon N64 having the the uncontested title of being the worst N64 game ever made. After watching this, I can understand why the game is so infamous :D

  • @Lastkoss
    @Lastkoss Год назад

    The thumbnail had me thinking the animation would have Frost being chased This was a great story.

  • @DarkShaman667
    @DarkShaman667 Год назад

    Friend of mine still has a Carmageddon poster on his wall. Classic!

  • @Surkai25
    @Surkai25 Год назад +1

    Never played it myself, but you definitely heard about it quite a bit on the playground!

  • @shrub4248
    @shrub4248 Год назад

    I love the zombie censorship more than the original pedestrians. Makes me imagine a world where a zombie apocalypse happens, and in response people just go racing cars. Really cool shit.

  • @manixpc
    @manixpc Год назад

    Surprised there was no mention of the soundtrack. The Fear Factory soundtrack was my gateway to metal.

  • @JCupgrade
    @JCupgrade Год назад

    Best thing escapist has made in ages (excluding zero punctuation)

  • @MichaelHowe-w3v
    @MichaelHowe-w3v Год назад

    I absolutely LOVED this game, it just broke all conventional rules, kicked open the door, and mic dropped 100 hand grenades walking away with two middle fingers in the air as gamers looked on amazed.
    My favourite car was the lightning blue car with the propellers, so many pedestrian kills lol.

  • @justjeff4173
    @justjeff4173 Год назад

    I remember playing Carmageddon 20+ years ago on a Mac and the graphics were rudimentary. But it was still a blast. A modern version on today's gaming rigs the gore and violence would be glorious!

  • @christopherreay3242
    @christopherreay3242 Год назад +1

    Love this series!

  • @kitestar
    @kitestar Год назад

    Actually sounds like a wha happun story but you guys have the edge of having a smooth dulcet voice

  • @R4DI4LR4CER
    @R4DI4LR4CER Год назад +1

    Never realised how awful it would be if it were called the Island of White until you said it out loud. Long live the Isle.

  • @The420033
    @The420033 Год назад

    Great video, this series never disappoints!

  • @oasntet
    @oasntet Год назад

    Ah, Carmageddon. If only GrayStillPlays and RUclips had existed back then.
    Carmageddon, for those who haven't played it, seems like a somewhat violent racing game. But beyond the races, the open world format has just oodles of absurdly hard challenges, such as one that has you jumping progressively higher in a series of skyscrapers. Just dozens of these littered about the world with little to no map markers to indicate where to go or that exploring is even a goal, yet at least half the game's depth is off the beaten path. I played a bunch of it in LAN multiplayer and even then probably only scratched the surface of what was in there.
    What a weird game. The sort of weird that you just don't get these days. If a modern triple-A had made it, say Ubisoft, it would have been such a different beast.

  • @jakeharris2504
    @jakeharris2504 Год назад +1

    If this man narrated audiobooks, I would buy every one that he VA's for.

  • @veranet99
    @veranet99 Год назад +1

    When something's meant to be, by golly it will be.

  • @EffinChat
    @EffinChat Год назад

    I grew up a hundred or so miles north of aforementioned retirement island.
    It's weird hearing the Isle of Wight get referenced by non - British media at all, it's so aggressively tepid

  • @mrrd4444
    @mrrd4444 Год назад

    Daddy Frost telling us a bedtime story about Development Disasters was not on my 2023 bingo card but here we are

  • @jonathangibson9482
    @jonathangibson9482 Год назад

    This is very inspiring. Thank you for sharing.

  • @p1ssedoffchristof48
    @p1ssedoffchristof48 Год назад

    As someone from the UK all i can say is- Holy fuck you hit the nail on the head about Isle of Wight

  • @manavsridharan3811
    @manavsridharan3811 Год назад +3

    Never played this, only heard of it cuz it's the father of all racing games. What a wonderful story.

    • @andrewmartin3671
      @andrewmartin3671 Год назад

      Interestingly there's an ever fatherer of all racing games called Death Race (1976), Carmageddon and its sequels were from '97, '98, and '00.

  • @AntonAdelson
    @AntonAdelson Год назад +2

    vAdditional focus should be given to the Physics Engine!!! As a fan of the game I played almost all of the sequels and many other games like it. And let me tell you, the PHYSICS ENGINE is what makes the game! No other game, not even sequels, came close to emulating the feel of the original.That math teacher must be a hidden genius! I hope they make it open source eventually so we can have a look at that mystic brilliance!

    • @stryke-jn3kv
      @stryke-jn3kv Год назад +1

      Genuinely the funniest, most entertaining physics engine ever made. The absolute ludicrous speed your car could be lauched spinning into the air was incredible.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson Год назад +1

      @@stryke-jn3kvAnd at the same time cars felt heavy and grounded! I don't know how he did it!

  • @PhyloDT
    @PhyloDT Год назад

    I love the Adventure is Nigh! stuffies all around the bedroom

  • @ThatFanBoyGuy
    @ThatFanBoyGuy Год назад

    Hey, Frost, if you're willing to take suggestions, a good "The Stuff of Legends" would be on how Konami attempted to monopolize the music rhythm video game genre.

  • @aaronbarthel6509
    @aaronbarthel6509 Год назад

    Oh man! I love this game!!!! played it nonstop as a kid and plaster its name on every army vehicle i drive!

  • @Souchirouu
    @Souchirouu Год назад +1

    And somehow it got Iron Maiden to do its soundtrack. Legends.

  • @postblitz
    @postblitz Год назад

    It was a great game, its greatness in large part to the bugs being reworked into features - all of them very fun and central to the identity of the game decades later.

  • @wahlflower3517
    @wahlflower3517 Год назад +1

    I love this series.

  • @chadjones1266
    @chadjones1266 Год назад

    Thanks again

  • @ubertoaster99
    @ubertoaster99 Год назад

    The Carmaggedon Splat pack was probably the first patch I bothered to get for any game. Was absolutely *necessary*. Cool to see footage from the Prat Cam guy. I never saw him in game, big fan of Die Anna! Oh, and a quick Google: ruclips.net/video/HwJTew1Gk2c/видео.html here's her cam.

  • @egrumstrup
    @egrumstrup Год назад

    Tony Taylor! 0:38