Was Mystic Timbers Volcano's Replacement? | Coaster Theory
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Ever since Volcano: The Blast Coaster was announced closed by the park in early 2019, we all cast our theories to what might replace it… some said a GCI woodie, Gerstlauer Infinity, maybe another Intamin Launch Coaster, but then plans for a B&M Wing Coaster surfaced. Some of us were excited that Kings Dominion is finally getting that big new coaster, while others said it's not a worthy replacement. Now that it's gone, the time has come to share our guesses as to what might come. But because this is a Coaster Theory, we look deeper into how there might have been a replacement in store for us this whole time. A while back plans were released by KDFans.com that showed a layout of a B&M wing that could have been a possible Volcano replacement. But now, the plans have been put on pause. My guess is Kings Dominion is going to focus on that S&S Free-Spin to replace the crypt and then save up a little more for a bigger replacement. The park knows that the removal of Volcano struck hard with the fans, and if they were going to bring something new to that area of the park, it would need to be something good. So with that in mind, is the Wing Coaster really what's going to replace Volcano? Yes, and No. I think the Wing coaster will come sooner than later, but it won't be the successor of Volcano. Going back to the official artwork the park released a few years back, funny enough it doesn't have a Volcano. I mean we're talking about Volcano, this was the most popular ride in the park, it should be front and center right there with I305. Now I don't want to jump to conclusions, because we all know Volcano was most likely a last-minute decision. Maybe it's just a coincidence that Volcano is no on the art… or maybe when we say last-minute decisions, it's not what we think. It's clear the park knew Volcano had issues, and they knew they were going to close it but didn't know when. That's why when the time came in early 2019, it was a last-minute decision because it was at that very moment they had to pull the plug. They could not have put Volcano on the art because they anticipated it to be gone at some point in the future, just like how they thought the hyper would have come at some point.
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grizzly does have a slightly curved drop, so think it is actually grizzly
nopanic.9 Good point
Next theory: Was Orion supposed to be CGA's hyper?
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That may explain why it has an 85° drop but I doubt it
No Orion is Karma for Ki fanboys
@@pierrekenshin6671 lmao
What I would do is get that woodie to replace volcano, get the freespin to replace the krypt, and get a mini b&m dive coaster like mako at seaworld san antonio to replace anaconda eventually, and have it dive into an underwater tunnel like yukon striker
Noah Berlin not happening, that would make jo sense with griffon next door
Nah, a flyer that replaces Volcano would be cooler
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Talking about wing coasters, Gatekeeper replaced a giga that was being planned that would replace mean Streak. This could play into the last theory, Giga to replace Mean Streak and a Hyper to replace Hurler. It was Matt Ouimet that pushed for Gatekeeper, which kept Mean Streak to be RMC'd.
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I think a wing coaster would be a nice replacement for anaconda. But if they would get an Axis people would consider that a worthy replacement for Volcano.
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I know a lot of these artworks of theme parks are made by someone who just looks at photos of the park and other random coasters/rides they think will look good. They are usually not directly connected to the park. Personally, I don't think Mystic Timbers was made for Kings Dominion, and I think the theming was used to slightly connect the parks. But I can see your points. Keep making this interesting content! 👍
I really like the idea of KD going for a woodie dominate park. It fits with the setting and is a nice contrast with BGW's steel dominate lineup. Although, I would still like a B&M wing in the future. I think you can get rid of Cobra and move Backlot Stunt Coaster to a park like WoF and put a wing there to utilize the lake while helping a small park. I sure wouldn't be mad at all if it had a launch too and revived that tradition as well. I'm also in favor of an entrance revamp with a premiere coaster. Although, I think that would be a lot to ask for in the next 10 years. Who knows what could happen though in this climate. Maybe they'll be the first to get a T-Rex, It would certainly fit the monarch theme lol
So hyped for the free spin!!
replace volcano with volcano ;)
edit: theres a lot of room next to i305
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I noticed the GCI coaster in the art too and was curious about that. Good theory to supplement that! It would make sense.
im thinking the purple coaster might have been like a repaint for shockwave or something
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They should get a vekoma STC because they dont have an inverted coaster. And they're very different to inverts made by B&M
Because the plots are right next to each other, they could remove anaconda too and then not only use volcanos plot of land but also have the coaster go over the walkway and onto the water where anaconda was, that would be cool.
I like the way your brain works. I also wonder how much we were meant to read into the artwork. Sometimes these chains dont take accuracy too seriously cough cough sixflags
We were so sad that we never got a chance to ride Volcano. We had Cedar Fair Platinum passes for 2018 and went to KI, CP, our old home park Carowinds, and KD. I don't think KD will replace it with a woody since they already have Twisted Timbers. My guess is a Mach because of the success of Copperhead Strike and Maverick. The area is perfect for a great, low to the ground launching coaster.
heymambo28 I feel your pain. I planned a trip to KD two months after it closed.
Twisted Timbers is a lot different from a wood coaster
Good deductive reasoning on this one!
Noice. Another video
I would doubt Twisted Timbers replaced it. It’s hard to replace an invert that’s so unique with a sit down conversion of an already existing ride
See the thing is when you think about it dominators already at the front of the park so they’d have to move it to the back area for them to have a wing coaster
I just want kd to get a Mack spinner, I feel like that would be perfect
Interesting to listen to as always
The real question is what is the purple one in the back of the photo? Perhaps that is volcano replacement
I’m gonna give you one that may be a little out there but with Kings Dominion’s past history with new and innovative coasters, it’s not completely out there. The axis coaster. The park had Volcano which was out of the ordinary for that model and Hypersonic XLC, which was a brand new model at the time. It’s proven before to be a testing ground and why not try again on the same plot of land for an axis coaster?
Also for me, I personally think a launched wing coaster would be perfect where Anaconda currently resides. A launches wing over water, give it some nice splash effects, would be absolutely perfect there.
I can get where you're coming from. Even with Invadr being a family GCI, if a coaster similar in theme to Wicker Man were to come to KD I think the GP wouldn't be impressed. Assuming that the curved-drop woodie is Grizzly (someone higher up in the comments claims that Grizzly's drop is slightly curved, so I'm working with that), I'd say that a GCI for KD is a stretch.
I think that the Axis design from S&S would be a much better fit for KD and Cedar Fair as a whole, since I can't imagine a Freespin coming to a Cedar Fair park unless it's a custom model. An Axis coaster gives a unique attraction to the DC area (since neither BGT or SFA would have one) and would give KD something they can really talk about.
With the wing coaster fitting in Anaconda's plot of land, my guess is that KD decided to shelf the project until Anaconda is demolished. I think Volcano's demise created a chain reaction that led to Vortex at KI being axed over Anaconda, so now we're waiting for something to happen over at Kings Dominion. 🤷🏻♀️ Not to mention that everyone expected CP to get some massive attraction for 2021 before we started hearing about Dorney Park and the two sets of leaked plans from KD, although we're all now in quarantine so who knows what happens.
The only discrepancy I see is that if they went with the wing coaster it wouldn’t be a front gate revamp. The reason i say this is because of land space. Dominator being the closest coaster to the front gate takes up most of the land near the front of the park. The only way I see a coaster being a good ways to revamp the front gate with a coaster would be to 1 remove dominator which ain’t going to happen or in a long shot they remove the log flume and build a wing coaster longer than gatekeepers layout and try to stretch it from the log flumes land all the way to the front of the park and I don’t see that being feasible with the amount of land it takes to build from the log flume to the front of the park. However, I think if the wing comes the log flume will get the axe because with dinosaurs alive being removed and the fact we’ve seen cedar fair remove go karts in the past I think we might see the wing coaster run along side of the grizzly in the old Virginia area of the park. I personally wouldn’t mind seeing a GCI be built next to grizzly considering Mystic Timbers is pretty close in proximity to the Beast at Kings island.
I want them to build a gerstlour infinity coaster
@Jeremy Miller a wing coaster is
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This concept arts scare me that they anticipated Volcano would be gone, and then I immediately think of my home park SFGAm and American Eagle missing from Maxx Force’s concept art...😩
what is the roller coaster at 6:38? it looks really familiar but I can't put my finger on it
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Great video, but Joris and the dragon in the Netherlands doens’t have a curved drop eather. Just saying. Maybe you where talking about the US? Sorry for writing mistakes, I am Belgian. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Belgium!
Aagie Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
Along with Wood Coaster and Wodan and Kentucky Rumbler and Wickerman
Can you do a video on Busch Gardens Williamsburg new coaster following the 2021 giga. Like what do you think will come. I’m thinking a b&m flying coaster.
now Kings Dominion is always in healthy competition with BGW but what if the replacement for Volcano was in fact a little strike at Dollywood. GCI said they want to use their steel track as strengthener for wood coasters like giving inversions to prebuilt woodys. what if they used that to give kings dominion the first ever launched GCI. then its a revolutionary launch sitting on top of a revolutionary launch
amazing video (as always) but man i would be very sad in mystic wasn’t at my home park kings island! also i would love a redo of the kings island front gate
Nick Clifford In the end I think the best home for Mystic Timbers is KI
Coaster Theories > Conspiracy Theories
I’d want a B&M launch inverted coaster
Even deeper in theory...what if this gci wood is a hyper that does inversions? Gci showcased a model that can do it last year. If you want to have a worthy replacement of volcano and and one up Busch gardens with Pantheon and have the wood coaster, this is a possibility.
Are you talking about the one they showcased at IAAPA? That model was sick! I'm really excited to see which park gets it.
Rip Volcano....we still miss you
I just want to see them finally get a hyper
what is that NoLimits wing coaster at 1:45?
Pranav Joshi That coaster was a creation based off the leaked plans for the Wing. Unfortunately the plans have since been put on hold.
Be awesome if they got a hyper wing coaster
that freespin isnt for volcano thats for the top spin near it that they are replacing for the freespin a wing is rumored like monster jam for valcono spot if this is true im pissed because KI didnt need MT KD could have used it
This is very interesting
Mark McCormick Glad you enjoy it!
what about an s&s axis coaster?
Also hear me out... A launched s&s axis coaster, or a Mack extreme spinning coaster in volcanos spot. And then a vekoma hyper in the dinosaurs alive area🤭
Knowing Cedar Fair they would make the wing coaster blue
Not likely. KD already has one of each type of woodie, so a GCI would be redundant and not bring a lot offer and bring people to the park, especially with the RMC right next to it. Racing out and back? Check. Family/Classic airtime? Check. RMC with inversions? Check. Cyclone style? Check. Only thing missing is a true Twister style, which a Cyclone is about equal to thrill-wise. Besides, Busch Gardens nearby already has a GCI, and KD wont install a similar coaster when BG puts one in, thus, KD never got a giga, because BG built Apollos Chariot. Dont see a gate coaster either given the layout of the park entry and the back of house service area directly adjacent to it, unless they remove Dominator, too. Wings are also kind of outdated now. They are like flying dutchmans or stand-ups...a stale gimmick. It seems more likely given the space and what is lacking in the region is something like Hang Time ar Knotts, a Gerstlauer infinity. While BG has a dive coaster, this is different enough . Or maybe an S&S similar to Steel Curtain at Kennywood, which would also fit in that space. Nothing like that in the region. Theyll also need that type of coaster when they eventually remove Anaconda. My money is on a Mack similar to Copperhead Strike at Carowinds, though. Especially since it has been so well received, and is fairly compact.
For your next video can you do a prediction on Tidal Wave at Six Flags St. Louis?
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We need a wing and a dive and maybe like a t Rex in the same spot as the dive.... but they do not need a new woody. I wouldn't renew my pass if they replaced volcano with a woody lmao
For some reason my right ear is so much louder than my left
does anyone else see the green and blue coaster in the foreground of the kd artwork? or am i missing something
B&M? At the bottom of i305
Maybe. Idk. Tbh u’ve had stronger theories, but I like this idea. I don’t know if KD would do a wing over the entrance cuz CP already has a wing over the entrance so idk if they will repeat that but idk.
Love the content tho
Dylan Kolers I can honestly understand your point. It’s not like Cedar Fair to do something like that at two parks but I was just playing around with the idea the wing could go somewhere else in the park. Figured it would be a good entrance interaction, and far enough away from CP. I like your thought process tho.
@@ThemeParkMedia a Flyer at the entrance would be cooler imo
Are you or did you make a Theory about the purple coaster ?
Isn’t Mystic Timbers a terrain coaster?
Grizzly curves to the left as it drops
I just wish WA would get a real amusement park, or like a hyper GTX at wild waves
I thought Kings Island redid their entrance area a few years ago? When they added metal detectors I thought.
Political Destruction When Cedar Fair gates a new front gate, they completely get rid of the old one and build a new modern one. They also come with a new coaster to interact with it, for Cedar Point it was Gatekeeper and for Carowinds it was Fury.
I gotta say I enjoy all of your content and the theories are good but I don't see Cedar Fair buying anything that costs more than a small B&M wing for Kings Dominion. This park just isn't worth as much to Cedar Fair.
Why not an awesome dark ride at a Cedar Fair? Sorry for my english
It’s weird just recently avalanche was temporarily closed
Wooden coaster on art could’ve been hurled
I Would love a GCI at kings dominion too bad we are getting a wing coaster (lets hope it isn't boring)
But that's just a theory, a coaster theory
....or the most likely scenario is we'll get yet another Planet Snoopy expansion! Woohoo. 🙄
Can you make a whats next for six flags in Texas
The new prototype steel track that looks almost like RMC? Yes they have an RMC but come on...
i can only hear you in my left ear
Technically wicker man doesn’t have a curved drop. It’s drop is like nemesis tbh
Okay I’m crazy but hear me out: S&S 4D coaster like Dinoconda. It’s obviously not gonna happen but it would be crazy if it did.
Latte the Coaster Enthusiast If that ever happens... I’ll be the first to buy a season pass!
Theme Park Media same even tho I live across the country haha
Me after reading title: excuse me what
Me after watching video: OHHHHH
They will tear everything down, all the coasters, and put the first 1000 ft coaster