You need to reduce drag. The antenna could be incorporated into the vertical stabilizers, making one less drag surface. Also, the body mounts and clips could be inverted so the towers and clips are upside down and behind the wheels, making four fewer drag surfaces. Finally, airplanes have cowls on their wheels for a reason. Extend the skirt of the body to encompass the rear wheels and taper it towards the rear (you could, with sufficient planning, cowl the steering wheels, but probably won't). Those changes will give you a total of seven drag reductions. Best of luck!
Absolutely. Every little thing. Painting B-17’s in World War II made them faster because it filled in gaps at the rivets & seams. They just didn’t paint them so they could get them off the production line faster, which is what really mattered at the time.
Im also thinking about the aesthetic of the body. The fake cockpit and all those louvers and such. Perhaps a completely featureless and streamlined body would do wonders.
I'm loving these carbon fiber driveshafts, saving me a lot of headaches. I have 3 sets installed so far. I've already experienced the alternatives; bent out titanium version during g a run and stock, luckily it didn't tear everything up.. I appreciate what you do!
WOW!! THANK YOU SO MUCH KEN! Dude..Actually, this is the first time i ever got a super thanks! made my day, thank you so much! Also, I'm happy you like them!
@@RazShifrin Right on man, I'm surprised others haven't (YET). As you know our time is a non-renewable resource, and you my friend have put in the time, effort & patience to make our experiences better. Thanks again brother.
@@zachdillon275 he uses a nice gyro for the steering and a device he invented called perfect pass “available on Amazon” to control how fast he accelerates.
Raz Have you thought about bringing 2 ladders and a board to stand up high that way you can get a longer run and see the car better? I see all the guys going for the record either standing on a ladder or the bed of a big truck to get a height advantage so they can get a longer run-up. When we race the driver's stands are up real high so we can see the corners of the track. You should try it. Might be that extra edge you need to break 200+ mph.
Aircraft style running lights so you know which way it's pointed may help as well. A buddy used to paint his high speed planes in odd blocks of colors so he could tell the planes orientation at distance. Not pretty, but he found it effective.
@@donaldrieger381 trying to keep weight down might be the issue. However, putting high-vis reflective tape (different reflective frequencies for front and back) and shining high-output lights down the track would serve the the same purpose adding only a few grams to the build.
For the car that exploded the front right at 4:52, was that the second pass on the same tires? In other words, are shaved foams only good for one high speed pass? (>180 mph)
Wow, he’s serious about RC cars building. Really hope that you break the record with a fat amount of mph so it becomes as close to impossible to break long time after if it is even approachable from there. Thanks for sharing this.
I have a little question. Why not build yourself a little stand, that you could be like 1m up, or more, when driving. You've have slightly better view on the car, and us viewers would also see a bit better as the car is approaching. Theres a reason races are also usually from a drivers stand, as it helps with seeing the car. Obviously I've never ran a speed-run, but just a thought. :) Anyway, love the videos as always.
Back in 1998 when i was into rc Cars, a car that could reach between 40 to 50 miles, was the absolute King.. 😂😂😂 can't Imagine how far this game goes... Keep it up!! Might be so hard to see/control at this crazy speeds!!
We were doing 80mph+ in 1989 w/ pan cars (RC10L). This was matched NiCd cells, 10 turn brushed motors (Twister for me) & Novak T1x speed control. I still have the whole setup. Pan cars are very squirily (2WD in general) it was difficult and couldn’t go too much faster and maintain control.
I bought two of your monster servos from perfect pass and omfg. No joke omfg these are the best god dam servos on the planet. If only I had these years ago. My RC’s drive so fucking straight and respond so fucking quick omg. Thank you!!!!!!!!
I wonder if having a squib that deploys a parachute (only if it goes inverted) would save on some parts without adding too much weight? lol, or a Co2 cartridge that deploys a beach ball around it...
The beach ball wouldn't work in practice, but you're on the right track. Accelerometers mounted near each wheel that if any detects violent shaking deploys a chute from the rear would mitigate damage and costs, for sure.
You can hear it bottoming out on the ground. Might be beneficial to raise the ride height 1/2 a millimeter on the front and 3/4 of a millimeter in the rear. The rake angle will help maintain the current level of downforce and stability and should stop the bottoming out.
I use Velcro straps to hold the batteries down. I haven't got close to your speeds, but I do think they would have held your batteries in place for that wreck and I'm pretty sure they're lighter weight. My cut outs to allow them are through the chassis so my straps are outside, but I don't think it's necessary
I'm wondering if a rudder steering setup instead of front wheels would benefit you when destroying wheels. You could potentially save destroying the car by being able to steer using the aero
@@Shadow__133 I don't see how.... The body shell is already using "aerodynamic forces" Sticking a rudder on something doesn't make it an aircraft.... Active aero is a real thing used on real cars....
@@MaNNeRz91 I thought rudders were used in boats and planes, not cars. But sure, might as well put an afterburner powerplant and canards while you are at it, I'm sure it will go faster!
@@Shadow__133 I see you're talking out your arse so I'll let you carry on with that and briefly enlighten you to the fact that many modern supercars use some form of wing that acts like a rudder or air brake which in turn acts as a stabiliser.... Let me guess you can't use rear wings because its called a wing and only planes, rockets and birds have wings.... 🤔🤔
@@MaNNeRz91 Your lack of knowledge is evident when you fail to realize that a rudder on a vertical stabilizer is used for yaw. Why a car would need that is beyond anyone else's compression, because only you thought about that. "Jenius"! But do go on, pretty soon you'll realize you are planning to make a flying car.... or an airplane car.
Raz, I have a legit question. I watch you and Kev Talbot racing to get that new world record.... and it is awesome. My question is: Why don't you both follow the body design of the current record holder? Why still go with standard, traditional body styles when you know it needs to look like a bullet? Not at ALL being negative...just curious.
Love the content, I built a dual motor rc speed car several years ago and never tested it. I was going for a record and then lost interest, hope you hit the world record as you are the king of rc speed! you officially are the king of rc speed! congrats!
I'm not sure exactly if it would be beneficial or not but have you looked into a slow draw capacitor instead of potentially heavier batteries especially if only needing enough power for a run or two
Food for thought.....have a buddy down where you think the pass will end, really really helps with spotting as well as retrieving cars on their way to charcoal briquette status.
I haven't watched this through to the end yet before commenting, so you might give all the stats at the end of the video, like 0 to 60, 0 to100, and the distance it takes to reach 200mph, but I would love to see the statistical comparison to a real full scale dragster, and what it could compete with to the nearest FIA, or NHRA class. Would it do a full quarter of a mile without getting too hot? What time do you think it could do a full quarter of a mile in?
This is amazing. Had no idea RC cars could go anywhere near this fast. For something this precise and risky I'd want to hire one of those big streetsweepers and wash the road clean first.
Damn Raz, you're so close to the goal and I can't wait to see you smash the record. The Bashing series Li-Po's are a lot better than people think. They are the only Li-Po's I've got and I've personally never had a problem with them.
I LOVE the 4 motor configuration. If you ever want to collaborate reach out. We do lots of rapid prototyping on our channel and would love to partner on such unique content.
That’s one stunning build. It looks like a factory kit! So so close, a bit more fettling, better batteries and I think you’ll get it. Then you’ll have to go for it officially right? With Guinness there to record it.
I just paused the video halfway through to go on Amazon to order 2 perfect pass servos! We shall see how they do in 1/8 Electric Off-road racing here in America
Going in a straight line is one thing , it might be interesting to see this beast on a track, maybe a 1:5 track or a go cart track so it could unleash itself a little :D
I bought my monster servo as a birthday present for myself. Got to put it in my kraton this week. My wife and kids bought me the 3s infraction blx, it was a great b- day. I'm hoping perfect pass comes out with some carbon fiber parts for the 3s line-up
Nice run 👍👍clean smooth and knock'n on that door!!! Only in my dreams would my dual motor go that fast....maybe one day lol nice work , beautiful build as always and good luck🤔 202 next run....you got this!
I'm not a RC guy at all, but enjoyed the video. Just looking from a lay persons POV, the shell of the car looks like the weak point. The thin clear plastic shell at 200mph must be flexing all over the place. Added to the that, is there really a need for the "cockpit" atheistic to be on the outer shell? That must be 5 mph in drag alone. I would have thought a low as possible, carbon body, flat all the way, would yield the best results. I look forward to your next videos!
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raz will get the record soon!!
When are you going to meet Raz?😁
he will get the record and then you will smash it after
Just came here after watching your video 78mph on your first drive
@@Saadix24 me too hahaha
YOU GOT SOME CATCHING UP TO DO ;)
You need to reduce drag. The antenna could be incorporated into the vertical stabilizers, making one less drag surface. Also, the body mounts and clips could be inverted so the towers and clips are upside down and behind the wheels, making four fewer drag surfaces. Finally, airplanes have cowls on their wheels for a reason. Extend the skirt of the body to encompass the rear wheels and taper it towards the rear (you could, with sufficient planning, cowl the steering wheels, but probably won't). Those changes will give you a total of seven drag reductions. Best of luck!
Same
Absolutely. Every little thing. Painting B-17’s in World War II made them faster because it filled in gaps at the rivets & seams. They just didn’t paint them so they could get them off the production line faster, which is what really mattered at the time.
Carbon shields RF. He may be able to keep it in the body, if range isn’t an issue.
Reduce weight
Im also thinking about the aesthetic of the body. The fake cockpit and all those louvers and such. Perhaps a completely featureless and streamlined body would do wonders.
I'm loving these carbon fiber driveshafts, saving me a lot of headaches. I have 3 sets installed so far. I've already experienced the alternatives; bent out titanium version during g a run and stock, luckily it didn't tear everything up.. I appreciate what you do!
WOW!! THANK YOU SO MUCH KEN! Dude..Actually, this is the first time i ever got a super thanks! made my day, thank you so much! Also, I'm happy you like them!
@@RazShifrin Right on man, I'm surprised others haven't (YET). As you know our time is a non-renewable resource, and you my friend have put in the time, effort & patience to make our experiences better. Thanks again brother.
@@Ken_412 You're welcome, thank you!
Pinned🙏🏻
How can you keep that thing straight and control it going that fast?
@@zachdillon275 he uses a nice gyro for the steering and a device he invented called perfect pass “available on Amazon” to control how fast he accelerates.
Raz Have you thought about bringing 2 ladders and a board to stand up high that way you can get a longer run and see the car better? I see all the guys going for the record either standing on a ladder or the bed of a big truck to get a height advantage so they can get a longer run-up. When we race the driver's stands are up real high so we can see the corners of the track. You should try it. Might be that extra edge you need to break 200+ mph.
Or... he could just pull the trigger nonstop, and hope the GPS survives... 😆
@@dwaynewilliams3077 LOL just replied more or less the same. Well, maybe if there's many with this idea, perhaps he'll consider! :D
Aircraft style running lights so you know which way it's pointed may help as well. A buddy used to paint his high speed planes in odd blocks of colors so he could tell the planes orientation at distance. Not pretty, but he found it effective.
Roof rack on any vehicle would suffice.
@@donaldrieger381 trying to keep weight down might be the issue. However, putting high-vis reflective tape (different reflective frequencies for front and back) and shining high-output lights down the track would serve the the same purpose adding only a few grams to the build.
Kevin Talbot doesn't stand a chance to ever beat your amazing cars. The time/attention and passion that goes into these builds is fenominal.
Kevin obviously knows that.. he’s just having fun installing a ton of power and seeing what it can do. Raz has true desire and passion for this
2 different approaches, more fun.
He may not out run them, but if you want to truly see an RC bashed to its abosolute limit....theres no place like Talbots shop lol
Raz wins on just having way more class.
Put a 360 cam in it it would look sick
For the car that exploded the front right at 4:52, was that the second pass on the same tires? In other words, are shaved foams only good for one high speed pass? (>180 mph)
Wow, he’s serious about RC cars building. Really hope that you break the record with a fat amount of mph so it becomes as close to impossible to break long time after if it is even approachable from there. Thanks for sharing this.
I have a little question. Why not build yourself a little stand, that you could be like 1m up, or more, when driving. You've have slightly better view on the car, and us viewers would also see a bit better as the car is approaching. Theres a reason races are also usually from a drivers stand, as it helps with seeing the car. Obviously I've never ran a speed-run, but just a thought. :) Anyway, love the videos as always.
Also you wouldn't loose your legs in case the car swerves into you
Brilliant, craftsmanship Raz, we are all cheering for you, you are almost there. 207 mph next run. Go go go. John
Laugh my ass off for people with way too much money and too much time on their hands you are so blessed I work really hard for a cheap RC car
Back in 1998 when i was into rc Cars, a car that could reach between 40 to 50 miles, was the absolute King.. 😂😂😂 can't Imagine how far this game goes... Keep it up!! Might be so hard to see/control at this crazy speeds!!
We were doing 80mph+ in 1989 w/ pan cars (RC10L). This was matched NiCd cells, 10 turn brushed motors (Twister for me) & Novak T1x speed control. I still have the whole setup. Pan cars are very squirily (2WD in general) it was difficult and couldn’t go too much faster and maintain control.
when you consider the RC glider speed record is over 500mph it gives some vague idea of how far this might go
@@bcastromusic lol they were like 30mph cars stock out the box... you'd throw your soul into them to get them to speeds a stock bandit will do lol.
No one deserves the record more than you Raz! Absolute works of Art 👏👊
I bought two of your monster servos from perfect pass and omfg. No joke omfg these are the best god dam servos on the planet. If only I had these years ago. My RC’s drive so fucking straight and respond so fucking quick omg. Thank you!!!!!!!!
198 mph, dropping to 22.x volts on basher lipos. Un...freaking...real...Raz, this car is flat out scary...💪💪💪
You and Kev must have been talk lol y'all posted so close together. Two speed run videos on Saturday morning. I love it!
They must talk they're good friends they're trying to beat the record like together so yeah I'd say they both knew they was going out geesh
Kevin mentioned in his video that Raz recommended some parts for Kev's car.
That's what I love about both of them.
The support.
Your a rockstar...Your so calm and mellow when you wreck a car..🤙 I freak out and curse like a sailor when I crash one of my helicopters.
I wonder if having a squib that deploys a parachute (only if it goes inverted) would save on some parts without adding too much weight? lol, or a Co2 cartridge that deploys a beach ball around it...
The beach ball wouldn't work in practice, but you're on the right track. Accelerometers mounted near each wheel that if any detects violent shaking deploys a chute from the rear would mitigate damage and costs, for sure.
רז נהניתי מכל רגע לצפות למרות שאני מטיס ולא בתחום הרכבים .. כל הכבוד על ההשקעה 💪
You can hear it bottoming out on the ground. Might be beneficial to raise the ride height 1/2 a millimeter on the front and 3/4 of a millimeter in the rear. The rake angle will help maintain the current level of downforce and stability and should stop the bottoming out.
It's porpoising like F1-Cars...
stiffening the suspension as well would help
Mega Pass !! 💪 Well Done Massive Voltage Drop 🤯🤯
Totally ruined the surprises thanks.
Thanks for ruining it 🙄
@@tomjohnson5713 watch it first then read the comments ✌️
@@rccarsandstuff4690 Watch the video before reading the comments 👍
#TeamOnyx when you getting the Onyx 8000mah packs ? Come and have a go with mine at Rossa
I use Velcro straps to hold the batteries down. I haven't got close to your speeds, but I do think they would have held your batteries in place for that wreck and I'm pretty sure they're lighter weight. My cut outs to allow them are through the chassis so my straps are outside, but I don't think it's necessary
I'm wondering if a rudder steering setup instead of front wheels would benefit you when destroying wheels. You could potentially save destroying the car by being able to steer using the aero
If you are using aerodynamic forces airplane parts it's a low flying aeroplane.
@@Shadow__133 I don't see how.... The body shell is already using "aerodynamic forces"
Sticking a rudder on something doesn't make it an aircraft....
Active aero is a real thing used on real cars....
@@MaNNeRz91 I thought rudders were used in boats and planes, not cars. But sure, might as well put an afterburner powerplant and canards while you are at it, I'm sure it will go faster!
@@Shadow__133 I see you're talking out your arse so I'll let you carry on with that and briefly enlighten you to the fact that many modern supercars use some form of wing that acts like a rudder or air brake which in turn acts as a stabiliser....
Let me guess you can't use rear wings because its called a wing and only planes, rockets and birds have wings.... 🤔🤔
@@MaNNeRz91 Your lack of knowledge is evident when you fail to realize that a rudder on a vertical stabilizer is used for yaw. Why a car would need that is beyond anyone else's compression, because only you thought about that. "Jenius"!
But do go on, pretty soon you'll realize you are planning to make a flying car.... or an airplane car.
AWQESOEM Raz! Soooo close! You will raise the bar very soon! 💪👍
For the first run, that’s impressive. You’re getting real close!
Awesome first run. I hope you set the record next time.
Nice vid brotha! That’s one hell of a first pass AND with bashing batteries?!
Raz, I have a legit question. I watch you and Kev Talbot racing to get that new world record.... and it is awesome. My question is: Why don't you both follow the body design of the current record holder? Why still go with standard, traditional body styles when you know it needs to look like a bullet? Not at ALL being negative...just curious.
Love the content, I built a dual motor rc speed car several years ago and never tested it. I was going for a record and then lost interest, hope you hit the world record as you are the king of rc speed! you officially are the king of rc speed! congrats!
What knd of batteries are you waiting for? Ive been shopping for some good ones but not sure wich ones acually hav the power
I love watching these speed videos. It's got to be such a rush doing that in person!
I'm not sure exactly if it would be beneficial or not but have you looked into a slow draw capacitor instead of potentially heavier batteries especially if only needing enough power for a run or two
This is my favorite thing about Raz. Brother you got that dedication and keep going after it!
Hi Raz will be awesome if you put cameras on the runway. Hopefully soon you will hit that world record 👏🏾
Congrats 🎊
What's wrong with guns ace. You keep saying good battery? I thought gens ace were good quality.
Man, you guys are brave standing around with no barrier protection. One crash could kill someone!
It’s not brave, it’s stupid.
Food for thought.....have a buddy down where you think the pass will end, really really helps with spotting as well as retrieving cars on their way to charcoal briquette status.
great video! also nice builds and those passes were insane.... even on audio alone lol
Great run! that build is fantastic! World record is very close. Keep it up, I cant wait to see it
That is freaking fast mann... Great run
That car looks beautiful
The green shoes matching the tires tho! Lookin good!
Great run Raz! Build looks amazing!
I just love the passion you put into the hobby and how much you want everyone to be part of it❤️
I haven't watched this through to the end yet before commenting, so you might give all the stats at the end of the video, like 0 to 60, 0 to100, and the distance it takes to reach 200mph, but I would love to see the statistical comparison to a real full scale dragster, and what it could compete with to the nearest FIA, or NHRA class. Would it do a full quarter of a mile without getting too hot? What time do you think it could do a full quarter of a mile in?
James McCoy is the headliner of speed 😎 gitter done
I love that there is no bullshit in this video. Just straight to the point.
Yea!!!! LETS GOOOOO!!!! praying to the battery and foam gods for you
"this is the most powerfull engine you can buy ... so i strapped 4 of them"
sir, i got to say, i truelly love your spirit ;)
Oh Yeah First 👍🔥🤪😎
Almost bro ☺️🤜🏼
This is amazing. Had no idea RC cars could go anywhere near this fast.
For something this precise and risky I'd want to hire one of those big streetsweepers and wash the road clean first.
its almost as terrifying as its awesome! great build
Just came up randomly, and I have to say, thanks so much, this was awesome
Damn Raz, you're so close to the goal and I can't wait to see you smash the record. The Bashing series Li-Po's are a lot better than people think. They are the only Li-Po's I've got and I've personally never had a problem with them.
Raz that was awesome for first run ever on that build!!!!
Raz, i hope you crush the speed record by a long ways....207!!!!
I LOVE the 4 motor configuration. If you ever want to collaborate reach out. We do lots of rapid prototyping on our channel and would love to partner on such unique content.
Dang I thought gen ace was good, so what’s a good battery to use?
Come back from the ashes to that awesome pass bro! Wow💯👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
That’s crazy fast 😳 Awesome to see that kind of speed!
That’s one stunning build. It looks like a factory kit! So so close, a bit more fettling, better batteries and I think you’ll get it. Then you’ll have to go for it officially right? With Guinness there to record it.
Absolutely fantastic run! 205 soon.🔥🔥
Great build and speed. About your radio I see a bigger antenna. What mod do you make to use a bugger antenna? Or you has avudeo showing that?
"It's just Gens ACE!!" - Raz Shifrin (c).
99% of community can only dream about batteries like those Gens 😂😂😂
Beautiful pass. The record is in sight!
I just paused the video halfway through to go on Amazon to order 2 perfect pass servos! We shall see how they do in 1/8 Electric Off-road racing here in America
פשוט מטורף אפילו לא ידעתי שיש בארץ תוכן כזה או אנשים שמגיעים לרמות שכאלה בתחום
This is epic! I hope a new record for you!
Going in a straight line is one thing , it might be interesting to see this beast on a track, maybe a 1:5 track or a go cart track so it could unleash itself a little :D
I bought my monster servo as a birthday present for myself. Got to put it in my kraton this week. My wife and kids bought me the 3s infraction blx, it was a great b- day. I'm hoping perfect pass comes out with some carbon fiber parts for the 3s line-up
youre the number 1 speed run guy...lets see you get the record
Great job Sir, love watching you get closer and closer! Wishing you well and luck on the next run from the US brother!
Brilliant. Even other content creators respect your diligence. At those speeds, any mishap becomes a yard sale. Carry on, sir. We'll keep watching.
I feel like you should stand behind some kind of barrier. If you get hit by that thing doing 200mph, it’ll take your feet…
Imagine breaking the speed record when Kevin Talbot comes to visit 🙂 Looking forward to more vids Raz !
How do you make all four ESC run together?
Tried hearing or seeing, but what are the tyre/wheel combination (brand, hardness) you are using??
Thanks 👍
Yeah you got the new record soon 👍
Very impressive, your passion and talent are inspiring . Keep it up!
Nice run 👍👍clean smooth and knock'n on that door!!! Only in my dreams would my dual motor go that fast....maybe one day lol nice work , beautiful build as always and good luck🤔 202 next run....you got this!
cool run Raz ... love it
Would it be better to use 2 max4 motors with 2 xlx2s
Just along for the ride ....epic
WOW that was awesome Raz. Love what you do
You should get drone shots from above. That would be really cool.
Yeah awesome run Raz!!🔥💯👍🏼
I'm not a RC guy at all, but enjoyed the video. Just looking from a lay persons POV, the shell of the car looks like the weak point. The thin clear plastic shell at 200mph must be flexing all over the place. Added to the that, is there really a need for the "cockpit" atheistic to be on the outer shell? That must be 5 mph in drag alone.
I would have thought a low as possible, carbon body, flat all the way, would yield the best results.
I look forward to your next videos!
He had a body like that in his older videos and it took flight
@@3000gtalex oh my! That's not good.
This is serious business, not for amateurs
that goes so so fast dude 😲😲
You should put a tiny camera in the clear 'cockpit' of the car , would be cool to see everything going so fast and low to the ground.
Definitely gunna keep an eye out, gotta custom 6x6 hoping to get 80+ outta it, thanks for some ideas to get there with
Where is that aluminum piece from onto of the front splitter would love one of those.
Great Build Raz.
Now that's hauling the mail brother 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's insane.
I wouldn't be standing out in the open with that car rocketing by me at 200 mph.😯
A collaboration video with Kev has to happen!
Great video, Raz. I can almost feel your tension on the speed run. You'll do it, I'm sure. Keep up the great work :)
What a first pass my guy 👍👍👍👍
You have such passion brother... absolutely love it.
210+ mph coming soon to a deserted road near you 😂